[00:54] <rick_h_> and the apple stereotype lives on http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304458604577488822667325882.html
[00:54] <rick_h_> but backed by cold hard facts
[00:56] <snap-l> rick_h_: Hah
[11:30] <snap-l> Good morning fellow travelers
[11:34]  * rick_h_ looks to be in his normal location
[11:34] <rick_h_> but morning!
[11:34] <rick_h_> :)
[11:51] <shakes808> Morning
[11:52] <brousch> I concur
[11:53] <rick_h_> I'm doubtful
[11:55] <snap-l> You've moved around the sun, though
[11:58] <brousch> Good meeting last night. 50 people learing about Coffeescript
[11:58] <rick_h_> very cool, it go off well then? I know you were nervous about the content/timing?
[11:58] <brousch> Yeah, one of the guys really came through with a thorough intro
[11:59] <rick_h_> good stuff
[11:59] <brousch> 33 features in 33 minutes
[11:59] <brousch> I like the Pythonic parts of Coffeescript, but the Rubyism disturb me
[12:00] <brousch> The last thing in a function is what gets returned
[12:01] <brousch> Conditional and existential assignment
[12:02] <brousch> unless
[12:04] <nullspace> morning all
[12:11] <brousch> Geez http://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/autocad-worm-stealing-designs-blueprints-062512
[12:13] <brousch> Hm, autoCAD runs on OSX now. I wonder if this counts as another OSX virus
[12:35] <nullspace> brousch: they've tested OSX AutoCAD and it's not vulenerable
[12:37] <brousch> Darn
[12:37] <brousch> I mean, that's good
[13:29] <jrwren> anyone ever seen linux not respond to ipv6 neighbor solicitations and thus have link local not work.
[13:29] <jrwren> the rubyisms in coffeescript are fine. its the javaisms that distrub me.
[13:31] <rick_h_> ugh, nothing like code reviews to make you feel like a snobby elitist
[13:32] <snap-l> rick_h_: Only you. I usually feel like I should join the circus.
[13:33] <rick_h_> I feel like a bit of an ass, but oh well I guess. They told me to lol
[13:36] <brousch> jrwren: I recognize that the rubyisms make me uncomfortable because I'm not very familiar with them. My gut tells me that they're too much implicit rather than explicit.
[13:37] <snap-l> rick_h_: I wouldn't feel like an ass
[13:37] <snap-l> They're asking for your opinion
[13:37] <snap-l> you give it
[13:44] <nullspace> jrwren: did you check your routes
[13:46] <jrwren> yup, routing table looks good, although I have to admit I am not sure what the local routing table is all about. that was actually a surprise.
[14:15] <nullspace> hmm same subnet?
[14:22] <tony-smlr> I just started a IRC channel and want to log it,  Do you guys know who logs this channel and how they do it?
[14:25] <rick_h_> tony-smlr: we're piggy backed off the ubuntu irc stuff: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots if I recall correctly
[14:26] <tony-smlr> Thanks
[14:26] <tony-smlr> rick_h_ thanks
[14:37] <nullspace> rick_h_: alright tomorrow night is looking clear
[14:38] <rick_h_> nullspace: awesome
[14:38] <nullspace> what fs did you use on the SSD?
[14:39] <rick_h_> just ext4
[14:39]  * rick_h_ likes stable FS's that don't risk going boom
[15:39]  * snap-l is a fan of ext4fs
[15:39] <snap-l> But I'd like to try btrfs at some point
[15:39] <brousch> Holy crap, DjangoCon US 2012 is $375 - $425
[15:43] <snap-l> Yow
[15:45] <brousch> That's one more conference I'll be watching while I exercise
[15:50] <nullspace> ha I read that as Dragoncon, and was like why would any of us want to go to that?
[15:51] <brousch> :P
[15:51] <snap-l> nullspace: I would love to go to Dragoncon
[15:51] <snap-l> They have a pretty nice skeptic track
[15:51] <snap-l> and Spock's Beard played their one year.
[16:01] <jrwren> its a link local address, so yes same subnet
[16:24] <rick_h_> brousch: it's what pycon usually runs
[16:24] <rick_h_> not extreme or anything
[18:37] <nullspace> snap-l: maybe I'm odd but I have no interest, kinda why I dislike penguicon so muchnow
[19:02] <snap-l> nullspace: I think you got too close to the sausage-making of Penguicon
[19:14] <nullspace> it's just too much crazy in one place
[19:16] <brousch> geezum pete http://docs.django-skel.org/en/latest/index.html
[20:04] <nullspace> anyone have an idea on how pipe ttyUSB0 output into a log file but still output to gnu screen?
[20:05] <nullspace> hmm would make more sense to pipe screen output to a log file as screen has the porper baud rate
[20:06] <greg-g> this is awsome, orbitz is steering mac users to more expensive hotels: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304458604577488822667325882.html
[20:06] <snap-l> nullspace: http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_script.htm
[20:14] <nullspace> http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/manual/screen.html#Logging
[20:22] <snap-l> That works too
[20:46] <jrwren> nullspace: tee ?
[20:56] <nullspace> I was thinking that but I I'm trying to use screen for a serial console
[20:57] <nullspace> I think the logging feature in screen will do the trick