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Kilosmorning early birds05:56
Kilosmorn SmilyBorg_w 06:32
SmilyBorg_wHey there06:33
magespawnmorning all06:36
Kiloshi magespawn 06:37
magespawnhow are things this morning?06:37
Kilosbit too cold to type but otherwise good ty and you?06:38
Kiloswhere is gc06:38
Kilosdefinitely a female bot that one06:39
magespawnshe will be back in a bit.06:40
Kiloslol06:40
superflymorning Kilos, magespawn, SmilyBorg_w06:43
Kiloshowdy superfly 06:44
SmilyBorg_whi there06:44
superflyThe trains were working this morning! But there was almost no one on the trains.... I wonder why :-P06:45
superflymorning magespawn06:45
superfly*maiatoday06:45
Kiloswow06:46
Kiloshiyamai06:46
Kiloseish06:46
Kiloshiya maiatoday 06:46
maiatodayHi Kilos06:46
SmilyBorg_wanyone know how I can disconnect someone who i using my nick? my nicks are all registered with nickserv and enforce is enabled so I dunno how they managed to use it06:50
superflySmilyBorg_w: you can try ghosting your nick06:51
superflyI think the syntax is /nickserv ghost <password>06:51
SmilyBorg_wthanks will look into that06:51
superflySmilyBorg_w: Syntax: /nickserv GHOST <nick> [password]06:52
=== SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg
SmilyBorgyay. worked06:52
SmilyBorgthanks superfly06:52
magespawnhey superfly06:56
superflyyou're welcome, SmilyBorg06:56
Kilosgc wb06:56
gcThanks Kilos It was a bit of a struggle getting here.06:56
superflyyo magespawn, picked up your parcel yet?06:56
superflynope, doesn't look like it06:57
magespawnno I'll go a little a little later, the post office here is not exactly fast.06:57
Kiloshaha06:57
magespawnhah, kind of makes me feel like big brother is watching me06:57
superfly:-D06:58
magespawnsuperfly are they at the post office?07:22
Kilosyo HawkiesZA 07:22
Kilosgo get magespawn 07:22
* Kilos wonders if eskimos can send some of their genes via irc07:23
magespawni checked already but they had not put any notification in the post box yet.07:23
Kilostypical07:23
Kiloswait till you have been and then let you know07:23
magespawnsome times a weel later07:24
Kilosservice with a smile07:24
Kilosfunny attitude with govt employees, why work hard if you get the same pay for slacking07:25
magespawnno motivation to work harder07:27
magespawnnot just gov employess though mainly there07:27
Kilosthe motivation should be to earn what you are paid for07:27
magespawnthey key word there is earn07:28
Kilosits because the stick has been buried07:28
magespawna lot of people think they are owed a living by the gov, or the rest of us.07:28
Kilosyeah07:29
superflymagespawn: I'll tell you just now, waiting for the sales team to finish their standup07:31
magespawnty superfly, if it is a tracking number will get me past the post office red tape07:35
charlmorning07:38
magespawnhi charl07:39
Kilosyo charl 07:39
charlhi magespawn 07:39
superflymagespawn: I don't have any shipping details, but I know they reached the post office on Friday07:40
charlhi Kilos 07:41
charlhi superfly 07:41
Kiloshaha magespawn they battling to get through the first five days after the weekend07:44
Kilosi enjoyed that07:44
charl:D07:45
magespawni will probable only get notification on Wednesday then.07:45
magespawni will go and check if there are any packages for my po box07:45
charlafter five days, it gets much better07:45
Kilospo not far from you man go tell them it is there and you want it07:46
Kilosdont ask them, tell them07:46
Kiloshaha @char07:46
Kilosoh my07:47
Kiloshaha @ charl 07:47
magespawnshop assistant is off sick today so just me in the shop07:47
magespawnwith kids nog al.07:48
Kilosoh well. rome wasnt built inna day07:48
Kilosbbl , i go check fences07:50
inetproMaaz: coffee on08:10
* Maaz puts the kettle on08:10
inetprogood mornings everyone08:10
magespawnhi inetpro08:11
Kiloshi inetpro 08:11
MaazCoffee's ready for inetpro!08:14
inetproMaaz: thanks08:14
Maazinetpro: Sure08:14
charlMaaz: coffee on08:36
* Maaz flips the salt-timer08:36
KilosMaaz, coffee please08:37
MaazKilos: Okay08:37
charlhi inetpro 08:38
MaazCoffee's ready for charl and Kilos!08:40
KilosMaaz, thanks man08:40
MaazKilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)08:40
charlMaaz: thanks08:45
Maazcharl: Sure08:45
charlphew it's a mess with laptops these days08:46
charli am biased towards buying an amd but they all seem to come with a radeon08:47
charla lot of intel-based laptops come with nvidia08:47
charli am falling back to the ubuntu certified list08:47
charli have been using this old fujitsu-siemens, never had any hassles with it, but the new laptops seem to be a mess08:48
superflyohi charl08:48
charlonly issue i ever had was while running debian i needed to install binary drivers for my wireless interface08:48
charlit looks like a thinkpad is the way to go now08:49
magespawni am using a old proline laptop, works like a dream with ubuntu, but getting a bit long in th tooth now08:53
Kiloshehe peeps are fulla at times08:54
Kiloswanna share ians episode with a client08:54
KilosIany: woman says this stuff is confusing me08:54
KilosIany: so I tell her, us technicians normally do this part of the work she is trying to do08:55
Kilos Iany: so she says are you testing my intelligence08:55
Kilosno offence maiatoday SmilyBorg 08:55
SmilyBorgno offence taken. stupid people come in all genders08:56
SmilyBorgI get similar comments from so called IT people08:56
Kiloslol why ask for help if thats your attitude08:56
Kiloswould drive me mad dealing with peeps like that and trying to still get them working\08:57
charli used to sit on helpdesk09:08
charlpeople would phone me wanting their email passwords09:08
charlso i would say "please send us a fax on your company letterhead signed by your manager"09:08
charland they would get angry09:08
charllike i would just give them their passwords without needing some form of proof09:09
SmilyBorghehe. ya. its amazing the lack of security. they just want conveniance09:10
charlit is like sticking your password to your computer screen using a sticky note09:12
Kiloslol09:21
Symmetriaubuntu mirror is back pointing at ac.za 09:24
Symmetrianow that the upgrades have been done09:24
Symmetriamachine is handing well now09:24
Symmetria 11:24:44 up 22:45,  2 users,  load average: 0.26, 0.40, 0.4209:25
Symmetrianot bad considering its processing 400 hits a second right now 09:25
charlis that on the ubuntu mirror alone?09:25
charlthat's a lot of ubuntu users in south africa, didn't realise09:25
Symmetriacharl heh nah the ubuntu mirror is doing about 90 - 100 hits09:31
Symmetriathe rest is sourceforge and mozilla 09:31
SymmetriaMem:     132288096  131910232     377864          0     104984  12637844409:31
Symmetriaheh09:31
charlah i see09:31
charlstill not bad though09:31
Symmetriathat 126gigs of stuff cached in ram really helps 09:31
Symmetriaand we're actually waiting on another 16 gigs of ram to sort out another issue which will push the box to 148gigs of ram 09:32
Symmetria(the server is whining that we've only got 8 outta 10 slots filled, and it prefers you to fill all 10 to do proper ECC pairing)09:32
magespawni thought it was a good idea to save your password on a postit on the pc  or maybe in permanent ink09:46
magespawnsuperfly just been to the post office, they of course know nothing about it09:46
Kilosso Symmetria have you got some info i can tweet to ubuntuza10:02
Kilosin the exact words you want tweeted10:04
Kilosso i can copy/paste10:04
SymmetriaWe have upgraded mirror.ac.za from 64gig of ram to 128gig of ram, with an additional 16gig of ram still on order to take it to 144gigs of ram.  This should stabilize the box as it was running low on ram10:06
Symmetriayou can tweet that :)10:06
SymmetriaI'll make mention of disk space when its done :p10:06
Kilosty Symmetria 10:07
Kiloscan one of you just check if it was tweeted please. i get an error sending status message but donna if the post went through10:18
magespawni do not see it Kilos10:22
inetproKilos: it's to long10:22
Kilosok ty magespawn then i can work on that10:22
Kiloswas thinking to send in bits and pieces ty inetpro 10:23
Kilosshould be getting there now10:24
Kilosdidnt know twitter had limits on the length10:24
magespawn140 characters10:24
magespawnsame as sms10:24
inetproKilos: mirror.ac.za upgraded from 64GB to 128GB of RAM, additional 16GB still on order to take it to 144GB. Our mirror server should be stable now10:26
Kilosisnt it there yet?10:26
inetproOr just "Mirror server should be stable now." at the end10:27
Kilosgot no error messages this time10:27
inetproahh... it's there10:27
Kilosi just split it into 310:27
magespawnyup got all three tweets10:27
Kilosah is that ok like that?10:28
inetproKilos: that's fine10:28
Kilostoo late to change now but will check first next time10:28
* inetpro loves twitter for it's 140 character limit10:29
magespawnyup that cool, if you can get it in 140 characters that is best, but that way is also good.10:29
inetproyou have to think twice about what you really want/need to say10:29
Kiloshaha10:32
Kilosit was only a few over. but said error in my status the twit10:32
Kilosif it was efficient it woulda said message too long10:34
inetproKilos: problem is that you're using a non-standard method of posting10:34
HawkiesZAHowdy everyone10:35
inetproHawkiesZA: hiho10:35
* HawkiesZA looks back at chats10:35
HawkiesZAWow, you people have been busy10:35
HawkiesZAIs there a date for the next Ubuntu hour?10:35
superflymagespawn: did you get the tracking number?10:35
inetproKilos: why you saying thank you?10:36
Kilosto those involved for the work done10:37
Kilosits only manners methinks10:38
inetproKilos: but it sounds like you're saying thanks to your followers10:39
Kilosnee man lees mooi als10:40
inetproKilos: Symmetria and TENET are not looking at your tweets, or are they?10:40
Kilosi dunno but now whoever is following sees that we appreciate any help, isnt it10:41
Kilosyo sakhi 10:42
inetproKilos: IMHO it's not 100% clear who you are thanking, but that's just me :-)10:43
Kiloslol ok ty inetpro will try be more specific next time10:44
magespawnno superfly10:45
sflrgood day good people!11:31
Kilosyo sflr you kinda scarce hey11:33
sflrKilos: you were sleeping when I came online :)11:34
RPMwoohoo I'm moving to CPT :D11:34
Kilosthis morning?11:34
sflrno, last night11:35
sflrRPM: that is good news!11:35
=== RPM is now known as NeVeR_
NeVeR_its very good news :D11:37
sflrwhen are you  moving? its kinda rainy and cold today11:37
tumbleweedare you also moving to dpkg?11:40
sflrKilos: how is your databundle looking?11:48
superflysflr: we should totally set up an Ubuntu Coffee Break at Bean There, btw11:51
Kilosstill good ty sflr 11:52
sflryeah superfly, this week? how many people? 11:52
superflysflr: any time... we should announce it on the mailing list, see how many bites we get11:53
sflrok. we said during lunch time, half an hour? 11:54
sflrok Kilos, keep me updated pls :)11:54
Kilosty will do11:54
superflysflr: yes. We'll market it as an Ubuntu Hour, but say that due to lunch time commitments, we likely won't be as long as an hour11:56
Kiloslol11:56
inetprosuperfly: how safe are those trains in CT these days?11:59
inetprosuperfly: see https://twitter.com/Lalliestweets/status/21748176352038912012:00
NeVeR_I'm moving there at the end of July12:00
superflyinetpro: depends on the line you take12:00
sflrMost people in my team travel with train, no safety problem so far. However trains get cancelled or delayed almost every day.12:01
superflyinetpro: ^^ what sflr said12:02
superflylast night the trains down my line pretty much stopped at one point, and after sitting in the same spot for an hour, my friends and I jumped off the train, walked up to one of the main roads, and got picked up by one of the friends' husband12:03
Kiloswhew12:04
inetprosuperfly: I just thought with your comment with empty trains of this morning, perhaps people were scared to use it12:04
superflyinetpro: yes, they didn't want to be late for work12:04
* Kilos also thought so12:04
inetprosuperfly: so you're not that concerned about safety?12:05
superflyinetpro: no, I'm more concerned about getting to my destination!12:06
inetprohmm... hope they can sort it out12:06
sflrlol superfly. 12:07
sflrinetpro: if you travel business hours its safe and packed. ppl travel with their laptops, etc12:07
inetproand I certainly hope that trains will not be burnt down12:07
superflyand it's raining nicely today, so that probably means that my train home is going to be delayed.12:07
superflyinetpro, sflr: blackberrys galore12:07
sflrthere is also a business express, you get coffee and newspaper and red carpet. it only stops in 2-3 stations12:08
inetpropeople seem to be very angry12:08
superflyinetpro: of course they are12:09
inetproI wish it would help if I burn down my car when it stops running12:10
inetprothe logic just doesn't make any sense12:11
magespawn why? because of the trains not running?12:12
sflrI wish they give metrorail management to provincial government, etc12:12
inetprosflr: where does it even reside at the moment?12:15
magespawnI have only been on two trains, not exactly commuter style, so this is a bit of a foreign concept to me, strange but true.12:15
NeVeR_when I move to cpt im gonna stay in table view or blouberg.. our offices are at century city.. is traffic that way hectic?12:16
magespawnare the trains a viable alternative to cars/scooters/bikes ?12:17
NeVeR_I think buses are too12:22
NeVeR_those MyCity buses seem legit12:22
NeVeR_I was there for a week, rented a car.. when I move there I'm going to try the buses.. i'll give my CBR600 a rest for a bit :P12:23
Kiloshmmm honda fan12:24
Kilosmagespawn, methinks bikes /scooters not too wise with taxis etc12:26
Kilosunless you are an old biker maybe12:26
magespawnhmm good point.12:27
magespawnNeVeR_, thats the fireblade?12:28
NeVeR_baby blade12:28
NeVeR_fireblade is the CBR100012:29
NeVeR_I like 600s, they quite a bit smaller and lighter12:29
NeVeR_and they both limited at 300 anyways12:29
Kiloslol12:30
NeVeR_I dont plan on going faster than 30012:30
Kilos300 used to be a dream12:30
NeVeR_a wet dream? :P12:30
Kilosclosest i got was with a 850 guzzi12:30
NeVeR_I've only done 300 once12:30
NeVeR_I get tunnel vision at 26012:31
NeVeR_so try not to go over 26012:31
Kilos220 on my bm was flying12:31
Kilosyeah thats the exciting part the road narrows12:31
magespawnbrother in law is bit of a speed freak.12:31
magespawnbbl12:32
sflrinetpro: the trains still managed on national level, dont see the split happening anytime soon12:48
inetprosflr: ahh12:48
sflrNeVeR_ your best bet will be taking the bus from Blouberg. the 2 suburbs are relatively close by. That road is very dangerous for bikers. My colleague got knocked over 2 weeks ago12:50
NeVeR_I hit a funny key combination there O_o closed quassel12:50
NeVeR_seriously? Marine Drive?12:50
NeVeR_Chapman's peak is apparently dangerous too, and thats the first place I want to go O_o12:51
sflrNeVeR_: yes, Marine Drive. during peak hour traffic.12:52
sflrChappies is not dangerous, unless rocks fall on you. haha. :(12:53
NeVeR_lol12:53
NeVeR_O_o12:53
Kiloshaha12:53
sflrNeVeR_: you can try though bicycle commuting :) there is cycle lanes along Marine Drive12:53
NeVeR_I won't be using the roads during peak hour traffic12:53
NeVeR_Yea I've seen that... Maybe if there's a shower at the offices... lol12:54
Kilossflr, im still waiting for your answer from last night after you signed on12:54
Kilosjust membered that12:54
sflrNeVeR_: there is a Virgin Active there for showering :)12:55
sflrKilos: hmm.. what was the question? regarding the website?12:56
Kilosyessir12:56
NeVeR_lol... is there a planet fitness near there somewhere?? I still have 2 years left on my planet fitness contract12:56
sflrNeVeR_: this one in Parklands> http://www.planetfitness.co.za/parklands-western-cape/12:58
sflrKilos: I made the changes we talked about regarding the website. Other ideas are welcome!12:58
Kilosyou said you were gonna tell me when you finished what you are doing12:59
Kilosim not fulla ideas12:59
Kilosbut wqill go have a look12:59
Kiloswill as well12:59
Kiloshttp://ubuntu-za.org13:01
Kilosthat one hey?13:01
sflryes. i fixed the Events, added Twitter, updated Ubuntu distributions, did some changes for SEO, added some meta tags, updated footer.13:02
Kiloshaha i member now you were gonna make up a tweet for me13:03
Kiloshehe13:03
Kilosunder 140 characters otherwise my status goes into error mode again13:04
Kilosinetpro, kom kom13:05
Kilosnog nie begin werk nie13:05
sflrKilos: these are such small changes, they dont deserve a tweet. When we do something exciting we can tell the world about it :)13:06
Kiloslol ok13:07
sflrwe must get the action points from the last meeting and remind people13:07
inetproKilos: eh!13:07
Kilosis the next meet gonna be a follow on agenda not covered13:08
* inetpro should ask Kilos to make some coffee for us :-)13:08
Kilosinetpro, thought you would like to word whats been done to the site13:08
Kilosgc coffee on13:08
* gc starts grinding coffee13:08
inetproKilos: no, I agree with sflr, not really stuff that anybody can see13:09
KilosMaaz, help gc13:10
MaazKilos: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features.13:10
inetproKilos: then again lot's of hard work is usually done unseen and behind the scenes 13:10
inetprogc: coffee please13:11
gcinetpro: Done13:11
Kilosyes but folks should be notified about stuff that might have not pleased them before13:11
Kilosthen also we might get more feedback here13:11
Kilosas in ideas13:11
gcCoffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro!13:12
Kilosgc ty13:13
gcIt's a pleasure to serve humans Kilos13:13
sflrI would like to see more pictures from events on the site :) [not screenshots of IRC meetings. hehe]13:18
superflyNeVeR_: Are you gonna be working at that waytag place?13:18
NeVeR_no not yet.. maybe next year13:18
NeVeR_I'm going to be working at Century City, for the same company I'm at now13:19
NeVeR_just transfeerring13:19
NeVeR_transferring*13:20
sflrNeVeR_: hope its a promotion, and not being sent to the 'naughty corner' hehe13:20
NeVeR_I asked to move :)13:20
Kiloshaha13:21
superflyNeVeR_: great stuff13:21
NeVeR_:D13:21
sflrsuperfly: are you referring to waytag.com?13:22
NeVeR_yes he is13:22
sflrNeVeR_: good. you gonna love it here. specially if you like outdoors and the beach :)13:22
NeVeR_I wrote the initial prototype for that site.13:22
NeVeR_the client was too demanding, so when they asked me to do it fulltime I said hells no13:23
NeVeR_now they looking for devs and they slowly starting to make money13:23
sflrI just looked at the waytag.com site and find it ironic that the service is about reducing long strings, but the home page URL is a long one. hehe13:23
NeVeR_lol yea13:23
NeVeR_at least u dont have to type that in :P13:24
sflryes, I heard of them when they launched last year or the year before.13:24
sflrlol @ NeVeR_ 13:24
NeVeR_I know all those long ass URLs off by heart :|13:24
sflrNeVeR_: did you write the app?13:30
sflrI see they do MTN Location Based Directory. nice13:31
NeVeR_I wrote the prototype... basically the foundation13:34
NeVeR_3 years ago... I had 2 weeks13:34
NeVeR_then in the last 3 years 2 developers have been writing it... and it doesn't do much more than the prototype did.. lol13:35
theblazeNeVeR_ what project is it that you are talking about with the 3 years and 2 developers ?13:39
NeVeR_waytag13:46
NeVeR_www.waytag.com13:46
NeVeR_well they been on off... not full time13:46
NeVeR_6 months on, 2 months off type thing13:46
smilegood afternoon :)13:52
FastEdiHi there13:52
FastEdiI just stumbled upon the Unity Orientation guide13:52
FastEdiand wondered, if you want to translate it to other languages13:53
FastEdiI would be proud to help out for a german version13:53
Kiloshi FastEdi 13:53
FastEdiI spread many Ubuntu-CDs in my community and there is need for such an introduction13:54
Kilossflr, superfly whats the procedure with that13:54
smilehi FastEdi :)13:54
Kilosdoes one need permissions13:54
Kiloshi smile 13:55
smilehi Kilos ! :)13:55
KilosFastEdi, start doing it so long i think13:55
Kiloswe will try let you know about tights etc13:56
superflyFastEdi: Contact the Vancouver Ubuntu team, it's their guide13:56
Kilosand welcome to ubuntu-za FastEdi 13:56
FastEdiThanks Kilos13:56
FastEdiOK, then I'll contact them directly13:57
Kilosgo for it13:57
magespawnback14:01
sflrhi FastEdi, as superfly said above :) I'm sure they will be delighted!14:02
sflrNeVer_ its a brilliant service, hope it takes off! we need great things coming from SA :)14:02
sflrwe rank 2nd on Google for "Unity Orientation Guide for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS" :)14:03
sflrnot that anbody will search for that exact term :P14:04
superflysflr: can you find the original news story for it, and link back to it?14:04
Kilosi got the link inna mail from neil14:05
Kiloshe hasnt been on for a while14:05
sflruhm. I try. Somebody posted a link here, but the site was down. Then there is a copy surfaced from frenchfortunecookies wordpress server14:06
sflrHere is where the original guide supposed to live: http://ubuntuone.com/1JdumBrwyvEN2tMMDAxKQL14:07
superflysflr: yeah... I'm trying to find the actual web site of the Vancouver LoCo14:08
sflrthis one? http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-vancouver-loco14:09
sflrI see they using Meetup for events http://www.meetup.com/ubuntuvancouver14:12
superflyyeah, use that14:13
KilosFastEdi, you got that14:15
Kilos?14:16
Kilosone would think the author would be happy to have his work spread14:17
sflrok, I linkified the reference to UVLC14:17
FastEdiSorry. Was afk14:18
FastEdiYes Kilos.14:18
FastEdiI'll contact Randall Ross from LoCo14:19
FastEdiOK, have to go to work again... :-(14:28
FastEdiI'll report when I have an answer14:28
FastEdiBB14:28
Mezenirhi all14:47
Kiloshi Mezenir 14:49
Mezenirwadup14:50
Kilosnot much methinks14:50
Kiloswe waiting to see if superfly s train arrives14:51
Mezeniroh ?14:51
Mezenirtrain ?14:51
Kilosyeah those choo choo things14:51
Kiloshe uses public transport to and from work14:52
magespawnbrave man14:52
Kilosyip14:56
smilebye :)15:15
magespawnbusy laminating 46 prints15:20
Kilosprints of?15:21
Kilosthats sticking a plastic cover on hey?15:21
magespawnanimal feed details, thats right15:22
Kilosfor what company magespawn 15:22
magespawna whole sale trader down the road15:23
Kilosah15:24
magespawna business partner15:26
Kilosah15:26
Kilosyou got fingers inna few pies hey?15:29
magespawnworking late15:29
magespawnthats the idea15:29
Kilosgood15:29
magespawneggs in different baskets15:30
Kilosall eggs in one basket is dicy15:30
Kiloslol15:30
magespawnand besides there is only so much work I can do on my own15:30
Kilosyeah and that place is tiny15:31
magespawnand giving the right people money and time so they can make more money for you is a good thing15:37
Kilosya15:37
magespawngc time15:43
gcmagespawn: Sorry...15:43
magespawngc what is the time?15:43
gcmagespawn: Erk, dunno15:43
Kiloslol15:43
magespawnMaaz what is the time?15:43
Maazmagespawn: the time is 08:43:33 PDT15:43
Kilos17.43 magespawn 15:43
magespawnMaaz what is PDT?15:43
Maazmagespawn: Erk, dunno15:43
KilosMaaz, what is the time15:44
MaazKilos: the time is in the past by the time you are reading this15:44
Kiloslol15:44
magespawnMaaz google PDT15:44
Maazmagespawn: "PDT – Pacific Daylight Time" http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/na/pdt.html :: "Pacific Time Zone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Time_Zone :: "Please Don't Tell" http://pdtnyc.com/ :: "Pacific Time - GMT" http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/pacific-time/ :: "PHP Development Tools" http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/ :: "PDT - - East Village - New York Magazin15:44
Kilosthats not same as ours15:44
Kilosyou an hour ahead15:44
Kiloswe are cat methinks15:45
magespawnMaaz what is the difference between PDT and SAT15:45
Maazmagespawn: I'm afraid I have no idea15:45
Kilosor gmt +215:45
Kilosoh ya sat15:45
magespawnMaaz google SAT15:46
Maazmagespawn: "College Admissions - SAT - University & College Search Tool" http://www.collegeboard.org/ :: "SAT - College Board - The Most Widely Used College Admission ..." http://sat.collegeboard.org/ :: "SAT Test Dates - SAT Deadlines" http://sat.collegeboard.org/register/sat-dates :: "SAT Scores - Get Your SAT Scores Online" http://sat.collegeboard.org/scores :: "SAT - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAT :: 15:46
Banlam8pdt is 17 here ithink15:46
KilosMaaz, time15:47
MaazKilos: time is in the past by the time you are reading this15:47
Banlamlol15:47
Kilos<Maaz> time is 08:46:50 PDT15:47
Kiloshe is getting cheeky15:47
Kiloson pm he gives the time15:47
Banlam:P15:48
Kilostrying to mess me around in  front of everyone here15:48
KilosMaaz, botsnack15:48
MaazYay, at last someone thinks about me as well15:48
magespawngc what is your time?15:50
gcmagespawn: Erk, dunno15:50
Kiloshehe15:50
magespawngc you are a dump bot15:50
gcmagespawn: If you say so15:50
Kiloslol15:50
KilosgcTIME15:50
magespawngc you are a dumb bot15:50
gcmagespawn: I already know stuff about you15:50
KilosEISH15:50
Kilosgc, time15:51
gcKilos: Huh?15:51
Kilossjoe15:51
KilosMaaz, time15:51
MaazKilos: time is 08:51:17 PDT15:51
magespawnMaaz local time15:52
Maazmagespawn: Excuse me?15:52
magespawnMaaz what is your local time ?15:52
Maazmagespawn: Not a clue, sorry15:52
tumbleweedMaaz: permissions15:53
Maaztumbleweed: Permissions: chairmeeting and nmap15:53
tumbleweedhrm, I can't eval python to answer that15:53
tumbleweedMaaz: literal time15:53
Maaztumbleweed: 1: is $time, 2: is in the past by the time you are reading this15:53
tumbleweedit must be PDT15:53
magespawnthought so. If I can get gc to give local time that will for SA, she is sitting here in Hluhluwe15:55
Banlammaaz, gmt time15:56
MaazBanlam: What?15:56
Banlammaaz, time gmt15:56
MaazBanlam: Huh?15:56
Banlammaaz, tim15:56
MaazBanlam: Huh?15:56
Kiloswe are cat 15:56
Banlammaaz, time15:56
MaazBanlam: time is 08:56:43 PDT15:56
Kiloshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Africa_Time15:56
superflyKilos: my train was fine this evening... yay!16:12
Kilosyay ty superfly 16:14
Kilosyou were offline so guessed your battery was kinda flat16:14
magespawnThats good. i am off home too, need food, later all.16:14
Kiloslater magespawn 16:15
sflrhola16:59
Kiloshi there sflr 17:16
Kilosnuvolari, ping17:20
charlgood evening17:28
Kilosevening charl 17:29
charlhi Kilos 17:29
Kilosgc coffee on17:29
* gc puts the kettle on17:29
Kilosgc with cremora17:30
gcKilos: Huh?17:30
KilosMaaz, please help gc17:30
MaazKilos that female bot hasnt a clue whats going on17:30
charlgc coffee please17:31
gccharl: Alrighty17:31
charlMaaz: you chauvinist bastard17:32
Maazcharl: Excuse me?17:32
charlgc: you cute17:32
gccharl: What?17:33
charlok nvm17:33
charli agree with maaz now17:33
gcCoffee's ready for Kilos and charl!17:33
Symmetriahrm, has anyone used mint linux?17:34
charlgc: thanks17:34
gccharl: np17:34
charlSymmetria: yes i have17:34
Kilosgc ty17:34
gcIt's a pleasure to serve humans Kilos17:34
Symmetriacharl any good?17:34
charlSymmetria: yeah i quite liked it, although frankly i'm happy with just the "plain vanilla" ubuntu17:34
Symmetriajust wondered cause its another thing on the list of mirrors we're adding 17:34
charlthat's a good one to have17:35
Symmetriaalso busy fixing the debian mirror 17:35
charlgreat to hear17:35
charldebian is always a good one to have handy17:35
* superfly shakes his head17:36
Symmetriathe main debian mirror works fine, but we dont have the cd archives 17:36
superflyThis lawyer who wrote a "love letter" to the Oatmeal seems to be delusional17:37
Symmetrialuckily the biggest official mirror for mint though is another academic institution at the moment in south africa, so I mirrored from them at a gigabit a second lol17:37
charli wonder if this is a pic of maaz and gc http://i.imgur.com/cttgY.jpg17:38
charlSymmetria: it's a nice feeling when you see the transfer rate climbing up to 100MBps17:39
charlwe have gigabit ethernet at work with a fibre ring connecting the buildings17:40
KilosMaaz, weather in pretoria south africa17:43
MaazKilos: I'm not feeling too well17:43
Kilosgc weather in pretoria south africa17:43
gcKilos: That didn't go down very well. Burp.17:43
charlMaaz: you suck17:43
Maazcharl: Excuse me?17:43
Kilosthey both doff tonight17:43
charlMaaz: weather in rotterdam netherlands17:43
Maazcharl: In Gilze-Rijen, Netherlands at 7:33 PM CEST on June 26, 2012: 22°C; Humidity: 50%; Wind: NW at 6 km/h; Conditions: Overcast; Sunrise/set: 5:24 AM CEST/10:06 PM CEST; Moonrise/set: 1:19 PM CEST/12:34 AM CEST17:43
Kilosso weird they find weather all over but not ptown17:44
KilosMaaz, weather in melbourne victoria17:44
MaazKilos: In Melbourne Airport, Victoria at 3:30 AM EST on June 27, 2012: 4°C; Humidity: 81%; Wind: NW at 6 km/h; Conditions: Mostly Cloudy; Sunrise/set: 7:36 AM EST/5:09 PM EST; Moonrise/set: 11:50 AM EST/17:44
charlhow the heck17:45
Kiloshi cocooncrash is maaz pointed at the wrong place for pta weather?17:45
charli asked for the weather in rotterdam and what do i get, the weather in gilze-rijen17:45
charlthat's not even in the same province17:45
KilosMaaz, weather in irene south africa17:46
MaazKilos: That didn't go down very well. Burp.17:46
Kilossigh17:46
charlMaaz: george south africa17:46
Maazcharl: Sorry...17:46
theblazehenI probobally shouldn't. But I'm leaving this here.   http://code.google.com/p/seeborg/17:46
Kiloshe used to be so good17:46
charli wrote some of my own bots in python and later in java17:47
charli want to write a new one but haven't found an excuse yet17:47
Kiloscharl do you know what happened to the monkeys plan to get maaz to greet new peeps17:48
charlno idea17:48
charlhere's two i wrote earlier this year: http://pastebin.com/M63zV9KB http://pastebin.com/tKKpuimg17:48
Kerberoo awesome17:49
Kerberoa rewrite of pyborg17:49
Kerberoi ran pyborg in a channel for a very long time17:49
Kerberobut then python broke17:49
Kerberoand i hacked the replies out17:49
charlpython broke?17:49
Kerberono idea17:49
charlyou upgraded to python 3.x? :)17:49
Kerberolong long time ago17:50
Kerberoi think it was a 2.x->2.7 upgrade17:50
Kerberoor something earlier17:50
charlhm weird17:50
theblazehenWould you mind me putting seeborg in here?17:53
charltheblazehen: as long as it doesn't become a bother, i guess nobody will mind17:53
charlit could be interesting17:53
Kerberoas long as it is like on 1% reply rate17:53
charlit randomly replies?17:53
charlok that could get irritating17:53
theblazehen I can switch that off17:56
Kerberohmm17:57
Kerberoso only replies when it is spoken to17:57
Kerberohmm17:57
Kerberoi'm not sure what the main channel guys will say17:57
theblazehenOK.17:59
theblazehenWell it will be kinda like Maaz then17:59
sflrI think as long as we know who is bot or not should be fine :)18:00
Kiloscharl, i mailed the monkey about his greeting godie for maaz. will let you know if/when he gets to reply18:00
Kilostheblazehen, can it give accurate weather reports in pretoria18:00
theblazehenNope. Just chat18:01
Kilosand correct za time18:01
theblazehenBadly18:01
theblazehenNope18:01
Kerberomy bot in another channel parses the api on weather.sun.ac.za18:02
Kiloswhen i just started here i was told to go online to a bot that one could teach things18:02
Kilosforget what is was called now18:02
Kerberohmm18:02
Kerberoalice?18:02
Kerberomegahal?18:02
Kilosno it was like a clone of yourself i think18:03
Kilosneed to ask maiatoday18:03
Kilosi forget them things18:03
superflyMaaz: weather for Cape Town18:03
Kiloseven taught it to braai18:03
Maazsuperfly: In Cape Town, South Africa at 7:00 PM SAST on June 26, 2012: 14°C; Humidity: 88%; Wind: WNW at 33 km/h; Conditions: Mostly Cloudy; Sunrise/set: 7:51 AM SAST/5:45 PM SAST; Moonrise/set: 11:56 AM SAST/18:03
Kilosi think its mainly pta superfly 18:04
Kiloshe works other p[laces fine18:04
Kiloswhew places18:05
Kerberohttp://pastebin.com/3dL1RHTp18:05
Kerberothat is how my bot shows weather18:05
theblazehenHello seeborg18:07
theblazehenHello SeeBorg18:07
SeeBorghello seeborg18:07
theblazehenLol its still learning18:08
theblazehenTalk to him18:08
KerberoHe will learn everything that is said in this channel18:08
Kerberonot only when spoken to18:08
theblazehenYep18:08
theblazehenI know18:08
Kerberothat is what makes them so awesome18:08
theblazehenBut its hilarious when he is dumb18:09
SeeBorgnot only when spoken to18:09
Kerberohmm18:09
Kerberohe is replying too fast18:09
Kerberoanyway, gtg18:09
theblazehen1 percent for random18:09
Kiloscheers Kerbero 18:09
Kerberook18:09
Kilosgtg is got to go hey?18:10
SeeBorganyway, gtg18:10
immahi SeeBorg18:11
SeeBorghello seeborg18:11
Kiloshi imma 18:11
theblazehenLol its my friend who's hosting. Was going to be imma. Bossman18:12
theblazehenHello SeeBorg18:12
SeeBorghello seeborg18:12
theblazehenAnyway back to random chat18:13
SeeBorgtalk to go hey?18:13
superflyannoying bot is annoying18:13
Kilosyou gotta think some about random chats to bots here guys because this is actually a ubuntu and linux help channel18:13
SeeBorganyway back to random chat18:13
theblazehenU don't say?18:13
theblazehenIll try and reduce speed18:13
theblazehenTesting if it replies18:15
theblazehenDo a /join seeborg if u wanna talk to him18:17
theblazehenSmile say hi to SeeBorg18:18
SeeBorghi seeborg18:18
magespawnEvening all18:19
theblazehenSeeBorg say hi to magespawn18:20
SeeBorgmagespawn18:20
magespawnUhhh hi, what was that about?18:21
SeeBorgthat is what makes them so awesome18:21
theblazehenSeeborg is a (crap)  chatbot18:21
SeeBorgyou gotta think some about random chats to bots here guys because this is actually a ubuntu and reduce speed18:21
smilehi SeeBorg ;)18:22
SeeBorgsmile say hi imma18:22
smile:D18:22
smilelol? :p18:22
magespawnA bot we chat to?18:22
SeeBorgyou gotta think some about random chat18:22
smile:)18:23
magespawnSeeBorg go fishing.18:23
SeeBorggtg is got to go hey?18:23
magespawnSeeBorg then what is ttfn?18:23
SeeBorguhhh hi, what was that about?18:23
=== theblazehen is now known as theblaze
theblaze!words18:26
SeeBorgI know 114 words (170 contexts, 1.49 per word), 43 lines.18:26
smileSeeBorg: I know less :)18:27
SeeBorgi know18:27
smileSeeBorg: why do you know? :p18:28
SeeBorg:p18:28
smileSeeBorg: because you know.18:28
SeeBorganyway back to random chats to bots here guys because this is ttfn?18:28
smileSeeBorg: yes, why not? it's cool, random shit :)18:28
SeeBorgseeborg: why do you know?18:28
superflytheblaze: OK, that's enough, get rid of the bot18:28
smileSeeBorg: because I do know ;)18:28
SeeBorgseeborg: why do you know?18:28
theblazeIll shut him up18:28
SeeBorgill try and linux help channel18:28
smilebecause of that, i said so :|18:28
theblaze!shutup18:28
SeeBorgI'll shut up... :o18:28
superflyer, theblazehen: OK, that's enough, get rid of the bot18:28
smile!shutup18:28
smile:p18:28
smilelisten to me :o18:29
superflytheblaze: out the channel, I don't want to see it18:29
theblaze!part #ubuntu-za18:29
magespawnThat was a bit strange.18:29
superflythank you18:29
magespawnWhat was that about?18:30
smilebye :)18:36
Kiloshow the family superfly 18:43
Kilosapart from cold18:44
superflyfine thanks18:44
Kilosgood.18:44
sflrbot slapping? haha18:50
gcsflr: Excuse me?18:50
Maazsflr: Huh?18:50
sflrbot go sleep18:50
Maazsflr: *blink*18:50
gcsflr: Huh?18:50
sflrweird18:51
Kiloslooks like the word bot triggers it18:51
sflri can see. but why. lol. they should listen to their names. hehe18:51
Kilosyeah weird18:52
Kilosmaybe something mage put in18:52
sflrbot please make coffee18:52
Maazsflr: Excuse me?18:52
gcsflr: Sorry...18:52
Kiloshehe18:52
Kilosgc coffee on18:52
* gc washes some mugs18:52
sflrbot coffee on18:52
* Maaz washes some mugs18:52
gcsflr: There's already a pot on. If you ask nicely, maybe you can have a cup18:52
sflrbot weather for Cape Town18:53
Maazsflr: I'm not feeling too well18:53
gcsflr: That didn't go down very well. Burp.18:53
sflrbot weather Cape Town18:53
Maazsflr: I'm not feeling too well18:53
gcsflr: That didn't go down very well. Burp.18:53
sflrlol18:53
sflrbot brb18:54
Maazsflr: What?18:54
gcsflr: Huh?18:54
* sflr brbr18:54
Kilosgc weather in cape town south africa18:54
gcKilos: I'm not feeling too well18:54
Kilosstupid bot18:54
gcCoffee's ready for Kilos!18:56
MaazCoffee's ready for sflr!18:56
Kilosgc ty18:56
gcIt's a pleasure to serve humans Kilos18:56
Mezeniras a meal ?18:58
Kiloshehe18:58
Mezenirlol18:59
Mezenircheerios18:59
Mezenirgnite18:59
charlciao Mezenir 18:59
Kiloscheers Mezenir 19:00
Kilosnight guys. sleep tight19:05
superflyMaaz: weather for Cape Town19:07
Maazsuperfly: That didn't seem to agree with me19:07
superflyinteresting19:07
charlwhat api does this thing pull the info from19:09
charlhttp://blog.programmableweb.com/2010/02/08/googles-secret-weather-api/19:09
charlhttp://www.google.com/ig/api?weather=pretoria19:09
charlhttp://www.google.com/ig/api?weather=cape+town19:10
charlhttp://www.google.com/ig/api?weather=george19:10
Banlammy internet is not enjoying this wind :/19:42
charlhe19:43
charlnn all20:05
magespawnWhat up, peeps?20:22
superflyhey magespawn20:25
magespawnWhat was that earlier? Somebody just messing about?20:25
superflymagespawn: someone brought a rather unruly bot into the channel20:28
magespawnBit strange.20:29
sflrhave you guys been following the online radio stats saga in SA? it seems things getting serious. time for some popcorn http://mybroadband.co.za/news/general/53569-legal-threats-over-shocking-online-radio-claims.html20:58
superflysflr: radio? what's that?21:01
BanlamI must say, the stats of over 50k listeners does sound surprisingly high21:02
Banlamat the same time, ontl a few hundred seems too low21:02
Banlamwill be interesting to see the outcome of all this21:03
sflrsuperfly: The Truth behind Streaming Internet Radio in South Africa http://pastebin.com/WBaiVMdc 21:06
sflrBanlam: its true. I think antfarm.co.za would be able to give some stats on online radio in SA. 21:07
Banlamdo antfarm deal with purely online radio?21:08
Banlamor do they only stream the SABC and other radio stations21:08
Banlamconventional FM stations?21:08
sflrits only FM I think, or at least the ones I listen to online21:10
Banlamyeah, same here21:10
sflrIt would give a number to see how many people approx listen to radio online. A person can only listen to 1 station at  a time...21:11
magespawnWhy do have to in sa to listen to sa radio stations? I stream music mainly from the uk and germany, because they support things orther than wmp.21:12
magespawnSa generally on support windows media player through a browser in my experience.21:13
sflrmagespawn: nobody has to. there is a debate on made-up stats regarding online SA radio listeners. we were talking about that.21:14
sflrmagespawn: it used to be like that. I listen via antfarm in any browser21:14
sflrhttp://www.antfarm.co.za/antradio/index.asp21:15
magespawnAhh i see. Are the stats only for sa listeners, or are the listeners world wide.21:15
sflrmagespawn: that's a question nobody asked I think. haha.21:16
Banlam:P21:17
Banlami've listened to 2ov a couple times21:17
Banlamthey support several different programs21:17
magespawnsflr thanks for that link, on the stations official websites as far as i could it was only wmp21:17
sflr"2Oceansvibe Radio now states they have up to 60 000 listeners an hour" >> http://pastebin.com/WBaiVMdc  I cant see saying SA only listeners21:18
magespawnThats a lot of ears.21:18
sflrmagespawn: maybe, I listen in Chrome in Ubuntu, I just hit play. haha21:18
magespawnMaybe some of those ppl never close or log off, but are not actually at the pc listening.21:19
sflryes, a part is made up of those people. But if they do that well is really good :)21:21
sflrgood night guys, I have to go!21:22
Banlamgnight21:22
magespawnNight21:22
magespawnI am also, good night.21:24

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