[05:56] morning early birds [06:32] morn SmilyBorg_w [06:33] Hey there [06:36] morning all [06:37] hi magespawn [06:37] how are things this morning? [06:38] bit too cold to type but otherwise good ty and you? [06:38] where is gc [06:39] definitely a female bot that one [06:40] she will be back in a bit. [06:40] lol [06:43] morning Kilos, magespawn, SmilyBorg_w [06:44] howdy superfly [06:44] hi there [06:45] The trains were working this morning! But there was almost no one on the trains.... I wonder why :-P [06:45] morning magespawn [06:45] *maiatoday [06:46] wow [06:46] hiyamai [06:46] eish [06:46] hiya maiatoday [06:46] Hi Kilos [06:50] anyone know how I can disconnect someone who i using my nick? my nicks are all registered with nickserv and enforce is enabled so I dunno how they managed to use it [06:51] SmilyBorg_w: you can try ghosting your nick [06:51] I think the syntax is /nickserv ghost [06:51] thanks will look into that [06:52] SmilyBorg_w: Syntax: /nickserv GHOST [password] === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg [06:52] yay. worked [06:52] thanks superfly [06:56] hey superfly [06:56] you're welcome, SmilyBorg [06:56] gc wb [06:56] Thanks Kilos It was a bit of a struggle getting here. [06:56] yo magespawn, picked up your parcel yet? [06:57] nope, doesn't look like it [06:57] no I'll go a little a little later, the post office here is not exactly fast. [06:57] haha [06:57] hah, kind of makes me feel like big brother is watching me [06:58] :-D [07:22] superfly are they at the post office? [07:22] yo HawkiesZA [07:22] go get magespawn [07:23] * Kilos wonders if eskimos can send some of their genes via irc [07:23] i checked already but they had not put any notification in the post box yet. [07:23] typical [07:23] wait till you have been and then let you know [07:24] some times a weel later [07:24] service with a smile [07:25] funny attitude with govt employees, why work hard if you get the same pay for slacking [07:27] no motivation to work harder [07:27] not just gov employess though mainly there [07:27] the motivation should be to earn what you are paid for [07:28] they key word there is earn [07:28] its because the stick has been buried [07:28] a lot of people think they are owed a living by the gov, or the rest of us. [07:29] yeah [07:31] magespawn: I'll tell you just now, waiting for the sales team to finish their standup [07:35] ty superfly, if it is a tracking number will get me past the post office red tape [07:38] morning [07:39] hi charl [07:39] yo charl [07:39] hi magespawn [07:40] magespawn: I don't have any shipping details, but I know they reached the post office on Friday [07:41] hi Kilos [07:41] hi superfly [07:44] haha magespawn they battling to get through the first five days after the weekend [07:44] i enjoyed that [07:45] :D [07:45] i will probable only get notification on Wednesday then. [07:45] i will go and check if there are any packages for my po box [07:45] after five days, it gets much better [07:46] po not far from you man go tell them it is there and you want it [07:46] dont ask them, tell them [07:46] haha @char [07:47] oh my [07:47] haha @ charl [07:47] shop assistant is off sick today so just me in the shop [07:48] with kids nog al. [07:48] oh well. rome wasnt built inna day [07:50] bbl , i go check fences [08:10] Maaz: coffee on [08:10] * Maaz puts the kettle on [08:10] good mornings everyone [08:11] hi inetpro [08:11] hi inetpro [08:14] Coffee's ready for inetpro! [08:14] Maaz: thanks [08:14] inetpro: Sure [08:36] Maaz: coffee on [08:36] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [08:37] Maaz, coffee please [08:37] Kilos: Okay [08:38] hi inetpro [08:40] Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos! [08:40] Maaz, thanks man [08:40] Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-) [08:45] Maaz: thanks [08:45] charl: Sure [08:46] phew it's a mess with laptops these days [08:47] i am biased towards buying an amd but they all seem to come with a radeon [08:47] a lot of intel-based laptops come with nvidia [08:47] i am falling back to the ubuntu certified list [08:48] i have been using this old fujitsu-siemens, never had any hassles with it, but the new laptops seem to be a mess [08:48] ohi charl [08:48] only issue i ever had was while running debian i needed to install binary drivers for my wireless interface [08:49] it looks like a thinkpad is the way to go now [08:53] i am using a old proline laptop, works like a dream with ubuntu, but getting a bit long in th tooth now [08:54] hehe peeps are fulla at times [08:54] wanna share ians episode with a client [08:54] Iany: woman says this stuff is confusing me [08:55] Iany: so I tell her, us technicians normally do this part of the work she is trying to do [08:55] Iany: so she says are you testing my intelligence [08:55] no offence maiatoday SmilyBorg [08:56] no offence taken. stupid people come in all genders [08:56] I get similar comments from so called IT people [08:56] lol why ask for help if thats your attitude [08:57] would drive me mad dealing with peeps like that and trying to still get them working\ [09:08] i used to sit on helpdesk [09:08] people would phone me wanting their email passwords [09:08] so i would say "please send us a fax on your company letterhead signed by your manager" [09:08] and they would get angry [09:09] like i would just give them their passwords without needing some form of proof [09:10] hehe. ya. its amazing the lack of security. they just want conveniance [09:12] it is like sticking your password to your computer screen using a sticky note [09:21] lol [09:24] ubuntu mirror is back pointing at ac.za [09:24] now that the upgrades have been done [09:24] machine is handing well now [09:25] 11:24:44 up 22:45, 2 users, load average: 0.26, 0.40, 0.42 [09:25] not bad considering its processing 400 hits a second right now [09:25] is that on the ubuntu mirror alone? [09:25] that's a lot of ubuntu users in south africa, didn't realise [09:31] charl heh nah the ubuntu mirror is doing about 90 - 100 hits [09:31] the rest is sourceforge and mozilla [09:31] Mem: 132288096 131910232 377864 0 104984 126378444 [09:31] heh [09:31] ah i see [09:31] still not bad though [09:31] that 126gigs of stuff cached in ram really helps [09:32] and we're actually waiting on another 16 gigs of ram to sort out another issue which will push the box to 148gigs of ram [09:32] (the server is whining that we've only got 8 outta 10 slots filled, and it prefers you to fill all 10 to do proper ECC pairing) [09:46] i thought it was a good idea to save your password on a postit on the pc or maybe in permanent ink [09:46] superfly just been to the post office, they of course know nothing about it [10:02] so Symmetria have you got some info i can tweet to ubuntuza [10:04] in the exact words you want tweeted [10:04] so i can copy/paste [10:06] We have upgraded mirror.ac.za from 64gig of ram to 128gig of ram, with an additional 16gig of ram still on order to take it to 144gigs of ram. This should stabilize the box as it was running low on ram [10:06] you can tweet that :) [10:06] I'll make mention of disk space when its done :p [10:07] ty Symmetria [10:18] can one of you just check if it was tweeted please. i get an error sending status message but donna if the post went through [10:22] i do not see it Kilos [10:22] Kilos: it's to long [10:22] ok ty magespawn then i can work on that [10:23] was thinking to send in bits and pieces ty inetpro [10:24] should be getting there now [10:24] didnt know twitter had limits on the length [10:24] 140 characters [10:24] same as sms [10:26] Kilos: mirror.ac.za upgraded from 64GB to 128GB of RAM, additional 16GB still on order to take it to 144GB. Our mirror server should be stable now [10:26] isnt it there yet? [10:27] Or just "Mirror server should be stable now." at the end [10:27] got no error messages this time [10:27] ahh... it's there [10:27] i just split it into 3 [10:27] yup got all three tweets [10:28] ah is that ok like that? [10:28] Kilos: that's fine [10:28] too late to change now but will check first next time [10:29] * inetpro loves twitter for it's 140 character limit [10:29] yup that cool, if you can get it in 140 characters that is best, but that way is also good. [10:29] you have to think twice about what you really want/need to say [10:32] haha [10:32] it was only a few over. but said error in my status the twit [10:34] if it was efficient it woulda said message too long [10:34] Kilos: problem is that you're using a non-standard method of posting [10:35] Howdy everyone [10:35] HawkiesZA: hiho [10:35] * HawkiesZA looks back at chats [10:35] Wow, you people have been busy [10:35] Is there a date for the next Ubuntu hour? [10:35] magespawn: did you get the tracking number? [10:36] Kilos: why you saying thank you? [10:37] to those involved for the work done [10:38] its only manners methinks [10:39] Kilos: but it sounds like you're saying thanks to your followers [10:40] nee man lees mooi als [10:40] Kilos: Symmetria and TENET are not looking at your tweets, or are they? [10:41] i dunno but now whoever is following sees that we appreciate any help, isnt it [10:42] yo sakhi [10:43] Kilos: IMHO it's not 100% clear who you are thanking, but that's just me :-) [10:44] lol ok ty inetpro will try be more specific next time [10:45] no superfly [11:31] good day good people! [11:33] yo sflr you kinda scarce hey [11:34] Kilos: you were sleeping when I came online :) [11:34] woohoo I'm moving to CPT :D [11:34] this morning? [11:35] no, last night [11:35] RPM: that is good news! === RPM is now known as NeVeR_ [11:37] its very good news :D [11:37] when are you moving? its kinda rainy and cold today [11:40] are you also moving to dpkg? [11:48] Kilos: how is your databundle looking? [11:51] sflr: we should totally set up an Ubuntu Coffee Break at Bean There, btw [11:52] still good ty sflr [11:52] yeah superfly, this week? how many people? [11:53] sflr: any time... we should announce it on the mailing list, see how many bites we get [11:54] ok. we said during lunch time, half an hour? [11:54] ok Kilos, keep me updated pls :) [11:54] ty will do [11:56] sflr: yes. We'll market it as an Ubuntu Hour, but say that due to lunch time commitments, we likely won't be as long as an hour [11:56] lol [11:59] superfly: how safe are those trains in CT these days? [12:00] superfly: see https://twitter.com/Lalliestweets/status/217481763520389120 [12:00] I'm moving there at the end of July [12:00] inetpro: depends on the line you take [12:01] Most people in my team travel with train, no safety problem so far. However trains get cancelled or delayed almost every day. [12:02] inetpro: ^^ what sflr said [12:03] last night the trains down my line pretty much stopped at one point, and after sitting in the same spot for an hour, my friends and I jumped off the train, walked up to one of the main roads, and got picked up by one of the friends' husband [12:04] whew [12:04] superfly: I just thought with your comment with empty trains of this morning, perhaps people were scared to use it [12:04] inetpro: yes, they didn't want to be late for work [12:04] * Kilos also thought so [12:05] superfly: so you're not that concerned about safety? [12:06] inetpro: no, I'm more concerned about getting to my destination! [12:06] hmm... hope they can sort it out [12:07] lol superfly. [12:07] inetpro: if you travel business hours its safe and packed. ppl travel with their laptops, etc [12:07] and I certainly hope that trains will not be burnt down [12:07] and it's raining nicely today, so that probably means that my train home is going to be delayed. [12:07] inetpro, sflr: blackberrys galore [12:08] there is also a business express, you get coffee and newspaper and red carpet. it only stops in 2-3 stations [12:08] people seem to be very angry [12:09] inetpro: of course they are [12:10] I wish it would help if I burn down my car when it stops running [12:11] the logic just doesn't make any sense [12:12] why? because of the trains not running? [12:12] I wish they give metrorail management to provincial government, etc [12:15] sflr: where does it even reside at the moment? [12:15] I have only been on two trains, not exactly commuter style, so this is a bit of a foreign concept to me, strange but true. [12:16] when I move to cpt im gonna stay in table view or blouberg.. our offices are at century city.. is traffic that way hectic? [12:17] are the trains a viable alternative to cars/scooters/bikes ? [12:22] I think buses are too [12:22] those MyCity buses seem legit [12:23] I was there for a week, rented a car.. when I move there I'm going to try the buses.. i'll give my CBR600 a rest for a bit :P [12:24] hmmm honda fan [12:26] magespawn, methinks bikes /scooters not too wise with taxis etc [12:26] unless you are an old biker maybe [12:27] hmm good point. [12:28] NeVeR_, thats the fireblade? [12:28] baby blade [12:29] fireblade is the CBR1000 [12:29] I like 600s, they quite a bit smaller and lighter [12:29] and they both limited at 300 anyways [12:30] lol [12:30] I dont plan on going faster than 300 [12:30] 300 used to be a dream [12:30] a wet dream? :P [12:30] closest i got was with a 850 guzzi [12:30] I've only done 300 once [12:31] I get tunnel vision at 260 [12:31] so try not to go over 260 [12:31] 220 on my bm was flying [12:31] yeah thats the exciting part the road narrows [12:31] brother in law is bit of a speed freak. [12:32] bbl [12:48] inetpro: the trains still managed on national level, dont see the split happening anytime soon [12:48] sflr: ahh [12:50] NeVeR_ your best bet will be taking the bus from Blouberg. the 2 suburbs are relatively close by. That road is very dangerous for bikers. My colleague got knocked over 2 weeks ago [12:50] I hit a funny key combination there O_o closed quassel [12:50] seriously? Marine Drive? [12:51] Chapman's peak is apparently dangerous too, and thats the first place I want to go O_o [12:52] NeVeR_: yes, Marine Drive. during peak hour traffic. [12:53] Chappies is not dangerous, unless rocks fall on you. haha. :( [12:53] lol [12:53] O_o [12:53] haha [12:53] NeVeR_: you can try though bicycle commuting :) there is cycle lanes along Marine Drive [12:53] I won't be using the roads during peak hour traffic [12:54] Yea I've seen that... Maybe if there's a shower at the offices... lol [12:54] sflr, im still waiting for your answer from last night after you signed on [12:54] just membered that [12:55] NeVeR_: there is a Virgin Active there for showering :) [12:56] Kilos: hmm.. what was the question? regarding the website? [12:56] yessir [12:56] lol... is there a planet fitness near there somewhere?? I still have 2 years left on my planet fitness contract [12:58] NeVeR_: this one in Parklands> http://www.planetfitness.co.za/parklands-western-cape/ [12:58] Kilos: I made the changes we talked about regarding the website. Other ideas are welcome! [12:59] you said you were gonna tell me when you finished what you are doing [12:59] im not fulla ideas [12:59] but wqill go have a look [12:59] will as well [13:01] http://ubuntu-za.org [13:01] that one hey? [13:02] yes. i fixed the Events, added Twitter, updated Ubuntu distributions, did some changes for SEO, added some meta tags, updated footer. [13:03] haha i member now you were gonna make up a tweet for me [13:03] hehe [13:04] under 140 characters otherwise my status goes into error mode again [13:05] inetpro, kom kom [13:05] nog nie begin werk nie [13:06] Kilos: these are such small changes, they dont deserve a tweet. When we do something exciting we can tell the world about it :) [13:07] lol ok [13:07] we must get the action points from the last meeting and remind people [13:07] Kilos: eh! [13:08] is the next meet gonna be a follow on agenda not covered [13:08] * inetpro should ask Kilos to make some coffee for us :-) [13:08] inetpro, thought you would like to word whats been done to the site [13:08] gc coffee on [13:08] * gc starts grinding coffee [13:09] Kilos: no, I agree with sflr, not really stuff that anybody can see [13:10] Maaz, help gc [13:10] Kilos: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features. [13:10] Kilos: then again lot's of hard work is usually done unseen and behind the scenes [13:11] gc: coffee please [13:11] inetpro: Done [13:11] yes but folks should be notified about stuff that might have not pleased them before [13:11] then also we might get more feedback here [13:11] as in ideas [13:12] Coffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro! [13:13] gc ty [13:13] It's a pleasure to serve humans Kilos [13:18] I would like to see more pictures from events on the site :) [not screenshots of IRC meetings. hehe] [13:18] NeVeR_: Are you gonna be working at that waytag place? [13:18] no not yet.. maybe next year [13:19] I'm going to be working at Century City, for the same company I'm at now [13:19] just transfeerring [13:20] transferring* [13:20] NeVeR_: hope its a promotion, and not being sent to the 'naughty corner' hehe [13:20] I asked to move :) [13:21] haha [13:21] NeVeR_: great stuff [13:21] :D [13:22] superfly: are you referring to waytag.com? [13:22] yes he is [13:22] NeVeR_: good. you gonna love it here. specially if you like outdoors and the beach :) [13:22] I wrote the initial prototype for that site. [13:23] the client was too demanding, so when they asked me to do it fulltime I said hells no [13:23] now they looking for devs and they slowly starting to make money [13:23] I just looked at the waytag.com site and find it ironic that the service is about reducing long strings, but the home page URL is a long one. hehe [13:23] lol yea [13:24] at least u dont have to type that in :P [13:24] yes, I heard of them when they launched last year or the year before. [13:24] lol @ NeVeR_ [13:24] I know all those long ass URLs off by heart :| [13:30] NeVeR_: did you write the app? [13:31] I see they do MTN Location Based Directory. nice [13:34] I wrote the prototype... basically the foundation [13:34] 3 years ago... I had 2 weeks [13:35] then in the last 3 years 2 developers have been writing it... and it doesn't do much more than the prototype did.. lol [13:39] NeVeR_ what project is it that you are talking about with the 3 years and 2 developers ? [13:46] waytag [13:46] www.waytag.com [13:46] well they been on off... not full time [13:46] 6 months on, 2 months off type thing [13:52] good afternoon :) [13:52] Hi there [13:52] I just stumbled upon the Unity Orientation guide [13:53] and wondered, if you want to translate it to other languages [13:53] I would be proud to help out for a german version [13:53] hi FastEdi [13:54] I spread many Ubuntu-CDs in my community and there is need for such an introduction [13:54] sflr, superfly whats the procedure with that [13:54] hi FastEdi :) [13:54] does one need permissions [13:55] hi smile [13:55] hi Kilos ! :) [13:55] FastEdi, start doing it so long i think [13:56] we will try let you know about tights etc [13:56] FastEdi: Contact the Vancouver Ubuntu team, it's their guide [13:56] and welcome to ubuntu-za FastEdi [13:56] Thanks Kilos [13:57] OK, then I'll contact them directly [13:57] go for it [14:01] back [14:02] hi FastEdi, as superfly said above :) I'm sure they will be delighted! [14:02] NeVer_ its a brilliant service, hope it takes off! we need great things coming from SA :) [14:03] we rank 2nd on Google for "Unity Orientation Guide for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS" :) [14:04] not that anbody will search for that exact term :P [14:04] sflr: can you find the original news story for it, and link back to it? [14:05] i got the link inna mail from neil [14:05] he hasnt been on for a while [14:06] uhm. I try. Somebody posted a link here, but the site was down. Then there is a copy surfaced from frenchfortunecookies wordpress server [14:07] Here is where the original guide supposed to live: http://ubuntuone.com/1JdumBrwyvEN2tMMDAxKQL [14:08] sflr: yeah... I'm trying to find the actual web site of the Vancouver LoCo [14:09] this one? http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-vancouver-loco [14:12] I see they using Meetup for events http://www.meetup.com/ubuntuvancouver [14:13] yeah, use that [14:15] FastEdi, you got that [14:16] ? [14:17] one would think the author would be happy to have his work spread [14:17] ok, I linkified the reference to UVLC [14:18] Sorry. Was afk [14:18] Yes Kilos. [14:19] I'll contact Randall Ross from LoCo [14:28] OK, have to go to work again... :-( [14:28] I'll report when I have an answer [14:28] BB [14:47] hi all [14:49] hi Mezenir [14:50] wadup [14:50] not much methinks [14:51] we waiting to see if superfly s train arrives [14:51] oh ? [14:51] train ? [14:51] yeah those choo choo things [14:52]