[00:00] <Jagst3r15> anyone know why a lot of the programs in the software center are out of date?
[00:00] <Mofro> Jagst3r15, most probably because they're out of date in the repos
[00:00] <domino14> what does . do?
[00:00] <init[dot]d> Jagst3r15, whats the error?
[00:00] <domino14> this script tells me ot do . ./vars
[00:00] <domino14> what is . ?
[00:00] <i7c> rwb: is it selected as fallback input?
[00:00] <init[dot]d> domino14, it turns a girl into a woman :)
[00:00] <Jagst3r15> init[dot]d like skype, Geany, etc. are not current versions
[00:01] <init[dot]d> Jagst3r15, those packages are usually help at other repos
[00:01] <rwb> no, I shut that off.  There is mic1 and mic2 however, I have a thinkpad with only one mic...
[00:01] <init[dot]d> build them from source for best results
[00:01] <i7c> domino14: . is the current directory. ./xyz runs an executable
[00:01] <IdleOne> init[dot]d: those sort of comments are not welcome in Ubuntu irc channels.
[00:01] <Jagst3r15> init[dot]d wat u mean?
[00:02] <init[dot]d> domino14, can you paste the whole message into a pastebin?
[00:02] <elspuddy> is there a build of unbuntu for notebooks ? or dose the desktop one run o.k on it ?
[00:02] <init[dot]d> Jagst3r15, look on google for those packages not in synaptic
[00:02] <i7c> rwb: how do you notice it doesn't work? only because it doesn't show any sound in pavucontrol?
[00:02] <domino14> vars is not an exectuable
[00:03] <init[dot]d> elspuddy, it really depends on the notebook
[00:03] <domino14> if i do . ./vars it says NOTE: If you run ./clean-all, I will be doing a rm -rf on /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/2.0/keys
[00:03] <i7c> domino14: setting up openvpn huh ;)
[00:03] <Jagst3r15> why dont they regulate the packages more init[dot]d?
[00:03] <init[dot]d> domino14, what are you trying to set up?
[00:03] <domino14> i7c: yep, and i have no idea what . is
[00:03] <rwb> the vu control shows nothing, and when I do a "test call" in skype I get no audio.
[00:03] <domino14> openvpn
[00:03] <SkippersBoss> rwb,the other mic would be the jack (external)
[00:03] <init[dot]d> Jagst3r15, probably too busy with the next distro
[00:04] <i7c> domino14: ./vars runs the vars script. ok it's not an executable but it is used to run stuff
[00:04] <domino14> what is the point of the . at first?
[00:04] <init[dot]d> and are you grabbing openvpn from the apt-get?
[00:04] <elspuddy> init[dot]d, its a freedom notebook, 2008
[00:04] <SkippersBoss> what skype version are you using and which ubuntu version
[00:04] <domino14> init[dot]d: correct, i got openvpn from apt-get
[00:05] <init[dot]d> elspuddy, depends on archiatype, hardware, bios etc...
[00:05] <init[dot]d> try loading 10.10 on it
[00:05] <rwb> I'm trying lots of combinations... There should be a VU on each choice in the Pulse control, and I can't get it to move.  Actuall this is now happening on both my laptops (thinkpads)
[00:05]  * SkippersBoss has had his share of PA problems in combination with skype
[00:05] <init[dot]d> domino14, so after it added openvpn what then? Why are you trying to run a script?
[00:05] <i7c> rwb: is it turned on in the alsamixer?
[00:06] <elspuddy> init[dot]d, : so saying its an intell  atom , h2 bios dose not help ?
[00:06] <domino14> i'm following this: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server/1873 -- im not sure how to set up the openvpn server certificates and whtever
[00:06] <i7c> init[dot]d: it is part of the setup. you need to create certificates. the script is used to do this
[00:06]  * elspuddy got to grab 10/10
[00:06] <init[dot]d> i7c, yah I know but need to find out where domino14  is at so can tell them what the next step is
[00:07] <domino14> i'm just editing the vars directory
[00:07] <domino14> err file
[00:07] <init[dot]d> the /var?
[00:07] <rwb> Ahh, I don't see an alsa mixer anywhere at all...
[00:08] <i7c> domino14: . represents the current directory... i won't tell it again, tho :)
[00:08] <rwb> Is there a way to just kill pulse audio altogether and just use something like jack?
[00:08] <i7c> rwb: :D open terminal and type alsamixer
[00:08] <domino14> so . ./vars doesn't make sense
[00:08] <init[dot]d> domino14, your at the step $vim vars?
[00:08] <i7c> domino14: why not? it's the path to the script that is supposed to be run
[00:09] <rwb> OK in command, alsa mic looks like it's off...
[00:09] <i7c> rwb: turn it on ;)
[00:09] <init[dot]d> easy fix
[00:09] <i7c> domino14: http://linux.about.com/od/linux101/l/blnewbie3_1_3.htm
[00:09] <init[dot]d> :)
[00:09] <rwb> turning on... testing...
[00:10] <domino14> init[dot]d: yes
[00:10] <domino14> well now i just created the build-key-server
[00:10] <i7c> domino14: hope that link satisfies you
[00:10] <domino14> sure
[00:10] <evie_hammond> test
[00:10] <sarsaeol> anyone have any idea how i can make sure a usb3 port is recognized as usb3 and not usb2 or earlier?
[00:10] <init[dot]d> domino14, are you in the directory /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/?
[00:10] <sarsaeol> currently recognized as usb2
[00:10] <init[dot]d> sarsaeol, lsusb
[00:11] <sarsaeol> init[dot]d: i have done that
[00:11] <init[dot]d> oh
[00:11] <sarsaeol> init[dot]d: it only lists usb2 or 1.1
[00:11] <domino14> init[dot]d: yes. i just build-key client1
[00:11] <init[dot]d> yeah sorry
[00:11] <i7c> rwb: and?
[00:11] <rwb> still nothing......
[00:11] <init[dot]d> domino14, ok now whats the next step?
[00:11] <domino14> building dh
[00:12] <JenniferB2> I am at the " select and install software " step on the installation .. but it failes at the end ... saying that step failed
[00:12] <i7c> rwb: you just increased the volume or you also removed the mute? ;)
[00:12] <JenniferB2> I only had desktop environment checked and standard utilities
[00:12] <init[dot]d> domino14, ok go for it
[00:12] <rwb> ahh, ok m testing again...
[00:12] <greg1979> test
[00:12] <WeThePeople> hi
[00:12] <i7c> rwb: you can recog. muted devices by the MM on the bottom
[00:12] <Nicekiwi> help, theres a proccess that refuses to be killed!
[00:12] <i7c> greg1979: your test was successful
[00:13] <Nicekiwi> a program has hung and i cant kill it
[00:13] <Jagst3r15> init[dot]d how come things like FireFox are up to date though? Does mozilla maintain the repo for it?
[00:13] <greg1979> any ideas on why xchat isn't letting me join #django?  I hit join channel and nothing happens
[00:13] <init[dot]d> Jagst3r15, each package has its own repos / devs
[00:13] <i7c> Nicekiwi: try kill -9 <PID>
[00:13] <Krywk> Hey people, I have a question.
[00:14] <Nicekiwi> i7c: dosnt work, says the PID dosnt exist
[00:14] <Krywk> More like a problem instead.
[00:14] <rwb> when I opened pulse and selected mic 1, the vu moved for a second, then froze....
[00:14] <Nicekiwi> although...
[00:14] <Krywk> This is my problem:
[00:14] <Nicekiwi> i7c: nope, dosnt work
[00:14] <i7c> Nicekiwi: find out about the pid with    ps -fA | grep -i "PROCESSNAME"
[00:14] <Krywk> You see, I'm trying to run a .NET Framework 4 app with Mono 2.10. Thing is, it needs sqlite.
[00:14] <Krywk> I installed sqlite.
[00:15] <Krywk> Nonetheless, the app does not work.
[00:15] <Krywk> It starts, but then fails.
[00:15] <init[dot]d> JenniferB2, whats it doing now?
[00:15] <i7c> Nicekiwi: second column should be PID
[00:15] <init[dot]d> Krywk, whats the error?
[00:15] <Nicekiwi> i7c: yeah but it claims that ID dosnt exist
[00:15] <Krywk> Sec
[00:16] <Nicekiwi> the ID is 18020, bit it dosnt work :(
[00:16] <i7c> Nicekiwi: try killall <processname>
[00:16] <Krywk> Let me paste it on pastebin
[00:16] <Krywk> http://pastebin.com/McgNUyyD
[00:16] <Krywk> There.
[00:16] <Nicekiwi> i7c: the proccess dosnt have a name either
[00:17] <i7c> Nicekiwi: o.O
[00:17] <Nicekiwi> i7c: the username on it is 'root, -1'
[00:17] <Nicekiwi> brb
[00:17] <i7c> rwb: yes that's a bug. don't worry. it usually moves while you are recording
[00:17] <i7c> rwb: try your skype test again and watch volumecontrol while doing the test. it'll work. it always freezes when unused.
[00:18] <rwb> I'm still getting nothing on the skype test calls...
[00:18] <Nicekiwi> bck
[00:18] <rwb> I can even hear the slight noise of the mic coming through the speakers...
[00:18] <Krywk> Any hint on what's wrong, init[dot]d?
[00:18] <i7c> Nicekiwi: nothing unusual that a process runs as root. -1 seems to be a nice-value (process priority)
[00:19] <init[dot]d> Krywk, yeah its Diablo 3
[00:19] <init[dot]d> :P
[00:19] <Krywk> Yep
[00:19] <Nicekiwi> i7c: ive tried killing it and force killing it. nothing..
[00:19] <init[dot]d> did you configure sqlite to work with D3?
[00:19] <Krywk> Uh, no?
[00:19] <Krywk> How do I do that?
[00:19] <i7c> Nicekiwi: why do you even wanna kill it? can you see the process in htop or top? don't kill random system processes ;)
[00:19] <Nicekiwi> i7c: thwe windows is still there, CPU% is unkown,
[00:20] <init[dot]d> Krywk, sec
[00:20] <Nicekiwi> i7c: its a game that crashed
[00:20] <Krywk> Nicekiwi, what is your problem?
[00:20] <i7c> Nicekiwi: oh i see. what desktop are you using?
[00:20] <deepspeed_> #bodhilinux
[00:20] <deepspeed_> ..
[00:20] <deepspeed_> my bad
[00:21] <Krywk> Nicekiwi, what's the game that crashed? I might be able to help.
[00:21] <i7c> rwb: you can restart pulseaudio if you suspect it froze
[00:22] <rwb> OK on one of my laptops its working.......
[00:22] <mattswe> hello! can anyone help me confirm a bug? on 12.04 when I install libpostgis-java (http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/all/libpostgis-java/filelist) the file `/usr/share/java/postgis_debug.jar` never gets installed
[00:22] <SkippersBoss> rwb: or stop pulse from autospawning all together
[00:22] <rwb> too many settings.  I wish I could use only one audio engine...  can I uninstall pulse?
[00:23] <init[dot]d> Krywk, is sqlite running?
[00:23] <Krywk> Where do I check that?
[00:23] <init[dot]d> sudo /etc/init.d/sqlite restart
[00:24] <Krywk> Command not found "/etc/init.d/sqlite"
[00:24] <Krywk> ._.
[00:24] <i7c> rwb: that's not a good idea. btw skype only works with pulseaudio. and you wouldn't be able to play more than one sound a time
[00:24] <init[dot]d> lemme see what it is then
[00:24] <Nicekiwi> Krywk: SpringRTS
[00:24] <Krywk> ?
[00:24] <Krywk> SpringRTS...
[00:24] <Nicekiwi> i7c: uhm.. ubuntu, in the KDE DM
[00:24] <i7c> Krywk: the name of the game ;)
[00:24] <Jagst3r15> init[dot]d i see google has their own linux chrome download....is that auto updated by google?
[00:25] <Nicekiwi> Krywk: BA CHecken Defence
[00:25] <Krywk> Yeah, I know, I was referring to init[dot]d
[00:25] <Nicekiwi> Chicken*
[00:25] <SkippersBoss> i7c: rwb no if u disable pulse Skype still works
[00:25] <i7c> SkippersBoss: really? ok, i didn't know that.
[00:25] <Krywk> init[dot]d, let you see what is?
[00:26] <SkippersBoss> that's how i solved my mic problem in 11.10
[00:26] <init[dot]d> Krywk, are you following some tutorial for setting up D3?
[00:26] <Krywk> Nope
[00:26] <SkippersBoss> in 12.04 PA seems to be working for me
[00:26] <Krywk> I tried it because I thought it might work
[00:26] <init[dot]d> sqlite usually will need apache2, php, stuff like that
[00:26] <init[dot]d> you have to run the d3 as a server right?
[00:26] <Krywk> Yes.
[00:26] <Krywk> I mean, D3Emu.
[00:26] <rwb> This is crazy, I would like to use only one audio service like jack.  I can't keep track of alsa, pulse, and jack, and how the interact with each other...
[00:26] <i7c> rwb: have you tried restarting pulseaudio on the pc that is still not working? first restart PA then skype
[00:27] <i7c> rwb: read about it ;)
[00:27] <init[dot]d> so there is probably some sort of config file?
[00:27] <Krywk> D3Emu needs sqlite by default.
[00:27] <Krywk> But let me see.
[00:28] <Nicekiwi> i7c: guess i'll jus logout/in again.. :(
[00:28] <Krywk> I think it is D3Emu.exe.config?
[00:29] <i7c> Nicekiwi: that could be the easiest solution
[00:29] <init[dot]d> Krywk, not in Ubuntu
[00:30] <Krywk> Dinner time. We shall continue later.
[00:32] <rwb> Seems to be working now.  Thanks!!
[00:33] <i7c> rwb: i'm glad it works :)
[00:33] <harrrismrubin> how do i add java to ubuntu 12.04 using terminal
[00:34] <daniear> hi
[00:34] <rwb> Well, still not working on one of the laptops, and I can hear the audio going through the speakers but.... anyway, to many settings...
[00:34] <daniear> ive noticed in my logs that alot of packets are leaving my computer with ip source addy of 3.3.3.3
[00:34] <daniear> what is it?
[00:35] <harrrismrubin> how do i add java
[00:35] <harrrismrubin> dr_jesus,  how do i add java through terminal
[00:35] <i7c> rwb: well yeh it is kind of confusing. but at the same time pretty powerful. afaik pulseaudio has an own channel somewhere here. i'm sure they know more.
[00:35] <alankila> harrrismrubin: 'sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk'
[00:35] <init[dot]d> harrrismrubin, follow this link let me know if you get stuck https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[00:36] <i7c> daniear: afaik that is an DNS server.
[00:37] <rwb> I agree.  I have one system that is using a delta1010 for recording and I only use jack.  That system seems great. but for a laptop, I want a simple way to say "use setup for skype" or "use setup for aucacity" and the only fiddling should be on strings...
[00:37] <daniear> i dont have dns server running
[00:37] <init[dot]d> daniear, are you running a cisco server?
[00:38] <daniear> no
[00:38] <mattswe> is there any way I can inspect an `apt-get install` step by step? I think I found a bug
[00:38] <init[dot]d> daniear, ifconfig
[00:38] <init[dot]d> does it have anything about 3.x.x.x
[00:39] <harrrismrubin> does anyone have a galaxy tab
[00:39] <daniear> no
[00:39] <rwb> Thanks all! later...
[00:39] <daniear> my log says spoofed pkt in=eth0 out =... src = 3.3.3.3
[00:40] <init[dot]d> spoofed?
[00:40] <daniear> got thousands of them logged
[00:40] <daniear> thats what it says
[00:40] <init[dot]d> are you running a packet analyzer?
[00:40] <init[dot]d> like etherape or wireshark
[00:40] <daniear> just letting iptables log things not running analyzer
[00:41] <init[dot]d> whats your netstat
[00:41] <init[dot]d> 3.x.x.x or does it show IPs
[00:42] <daniear> doesnt show 3.xxxx
[00:42] <init[dot]d> see anything from 255.x.x.x
[00:42] <daniear> no
[00:43] <daniear> do i have a virus why would i have spoofed packets leaving my computer
[00:43] <init[dot]d> nope
[00:43] <init[dot]d> whats type router do you have?
[00:43] <i7c> mattswe: you can use -s to simulate and not really install it?! doesn't help i guess
[00:44] <daniear> tp-link
[00:44] <daniear> this is a server not my home computer
[00:44] <spacedust> hi
[00:45] <mattswe> @i7c would you mind installing the package?
[00:45] <init[dot]d> daniear, usually an IP of 1.1.1.1 or 3.3.3.3 or 10.x.x.x is the IP assighned to a virtual machine by a cisco router, so sometimes a Linksys router that is designed with the cisco firmware assigns the IPs on 1.x.x.x3.x.x.x10.x.x.x etc
[00:45] <spacedust> how well would an ati 5400 card work with an ubuntu installation ?
[00:45] <mattswe> @i7c and check if you have the same bug?
[00:45] <i7c> mattswe: depends on the size of the package and what this bug is ;)
[00:46] <mattswe> :)
[00:46] <mattswe> it's a tiny package and a tiny bug :)
[00:46] <mattswe> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/all/libpostgis-java/filelist
[00:46] <init[dot]d> daniear, it is usually showing many packets due to poor configurations
[00:46] <mattswe> is supposed to install `/usr/share/java/postgis.jar` ...but it doesn't
[00:47] <i7c> mattswe: i installed it. what now?
[00:47] <mattswe> i7c: `ls /usr/share/java/postgis.jar`
[00:48] <mattswe> and paste the response
[00:48] <i7c> mattswe: the file is there
[00:48] <mattswe> :(
[00:48] <mattswe> are you on 12.04?
[00:48] <i7c> mattswe: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  88108 Dec  5  2011 postgis.jar
[00:49] <Krywk> Back
[00:49] <mattswe> well shit.
[00:49] <Krywk> init[dot]d, Not in ubuntu?
[00:49] <mattswe> :)
[00:49] <i7c> spacedust: what exactly do you wanna know? if it works at all?
[00:49] <IdleOne> !language | mattswe
[00:49] <mattswe> @i7c what version of ubuntu? 12.04?
[00:49] <i7c> mattswe: yes.
[00:49] <spacedust> i7c: yes :) but ill found out soon :)
[00:49] <mattswe> huh. any idea why that might not be showing up for me?
[00:50] <lwizardl> in the "Indicator Applet" included with Ubuntu 10.04 lts. Is there a way to setup email account to just be a notifier for when you get a new msg. so you can open them in thunderbird ?
[00:50] <spacedust> i7c: id like it to work with vga + hdmi at the same time
[00:50] <ubuntu> nick SocialEvil
[00:50] <ubuntu> ups
[00:51] <i7c> spacedust: well sometimes there are driver issues. but if you get the card to work properly you will be able to do that.
[00:51] <spacedust> i7c: will precise pangolin work out of the box ?
[00:52] <Krywk> ...
[00:52] <Krywk> init[dot]d?
[00:52] <init[dot]d> Krywk, ?
[00:52] <i7c> spacedust: normally it should yes. i just heard about single cases where it didn't.
[00:53] <Krywk> init[dot]d, you said 'Not on ubuntu'. I don't understand.
[00:54] <init[dot]d> you dont run .exe files on Ubuntu
[00:54] <init[dot]d> you CAN with wine+other tweaking
[00:54] <init[dot]d> so a Unix configuration file is not going to be labeled .exe
[00:54] <spacedust> i7c: okay ill try it tomorrow and tell you about it
[00:55] <Krywk> init[dot]d, if I try to run D3Emu.exe in wine, it says I need Net Framework;version=4.0;
[00:55] <spacedust> i7c: does the iso work on a flash drive ?
[00:55] <init[dot]d> yupp
[00:55] <spacedust> i7c: if i use dd to write the iso to the flash ?
[00:55] <Krywk> Even though I have it.
[00:55] <init[dot]d> sounds like more a D3 problem not really an Ubuntu one
[00:55] <i7c> spacedust: ok. if you have a weaker video card you should think about an different desktop environment than unity.
[00:55] <i7c> spacedust: are you on windows right now?
[00:55] <init[dot]d> D3 is throwing the error
[00:55] <Krywk> D3 is not throwing the error, D3Emu is.
[00:56] <spacedust> i7c: no
[00:56] <Krywk> I searched for the problem, they said I should rename D3Emu.exe.config to something else and try again.
[00:56] <Krywk> I tried.
[00:56] <Krywk> A waaaaaaaaaay bigger error.
[00:56] <spacedust> i7c: i was thinking 5400 with 512mb of ram is not a weak card :P
[00:56] <spacedust> it is ?
[00:56] <NictraSavios> Does splitting your layout over multiple partitions (/, /home, /boot, /var, /usr and /tmp) have any real advantage for a home user vs the standard (/ and /boot) config. (I don't use my /home for data, I use a separate ntfs partition)
[00:56] <Ironsight> Krywk, #winehq
[00:57] <IronFart> gah, I need some help.
[00:57] <Krywk> Ironsight, I'm here because I'm trying to get something net40 related to work with mono, so no.
[00:57] <IronFart> I tried installing dropbox
[00:57] <i7c> spacedust: well. depends on the year :D it's not high-end anymore. but should be ok.
[00:57] <IronFart> and now it's locked up my synaptic package manager, when I run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[00:57] <IronFart> all that happens is it downloads dropbox to 99% and then hangs
[00:57] <rhizmoe> oh good, another X/compiz crash
[00:58] <i7c> spacedust: it's just that unity is a resource eater.
[00:58] <Krywk> ^This
[00:58] <bear_> Can anyone asist me in updating from 11.10 to 12.04? I tried the update manager, but no luck. Also, when trying from CD, no update option is available.
[00:59] <Aaron> spacedust: you can use unetbootin to transfer ,iso to flash
[00:59] <i7c> spacedust: oh and yes you can install from flashdrive. you find plenty of guides on the internet
[00:59] <IronFart> I've found unetbootin stuffs upthe flash drive for future usage... so uh, be sure it's one you don't particularly care about
[00:59] <Krywk> init[dot]d, so that's why I'm trying to run it with mono, since it throws a simpler error.
[00:59] <Ironsight> Unetbootin
[00:59] <bear_> I don't think installing from flash will change anything.
[00:59] <IronFart> so um, my problem with installing dropbox, how do i cancel it so i can at least get synaptic working
[01:00] <ejv> this doesn't answer your question, but for a major jump like that, I would personally just reinstall the OS, "fresh"
[01:00] <Ironsight> Never had an issue with unetbootin... Ever
[01:00] <IronFart> oh no, me neither, it works fine.
[01:00] <ratcheer> bear_: Did you run update-manager -d ?
[01:00] <IronFart> It just mucks around with the flash drive itself.
[01:01] <init[dot]d> daniear, I dunno Im not a linux gamer gnurd
[01:01] <init[dot]d> maybe see if someone has set up the d3emu server before
[01:01] <NictraSavios> I hate that windows has YUMI. We don't even have any equivalent to that, it blow unetbootin out the water.
[01:01] <bear_> @ratcheer Yes, the option to update doesn't show up.
[01:01] <Krywk> Hmm... I'll see what I can find.
[01:02] <MonkeyDust> NictraSavios  linux has MultiSystem
[01:02] <MonkeyDust> NictraSavios  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[01:02] <Krywk> init[dot]d, I tried running it on Windows 7 x64 with mono 2.10 and sqlite, and it works fine.
[01:03] <Krywk> So I'm not sure why the error shows up here.
[01:03] <ratcheer> bear_: I'm really not sure, I have done clean installs the last few times.
[01:03] <init[dot]d> cool
[01:03] <init[dot]d> maybe check in #wine
[01:03] <Krywk> Let's see.
[01:04] <NictraSavios> MonkeyDust, ... You ... just made my life complete
[01:04] <IronFart> hey, I need some help cancelling this dropbox install, I can't access the synaptic package manager because it's holding everything up
[01:04] <NictraSavios> MonkeyDust, Thank you!! I have ever heart of that.
[01:05] <bear_> Anyone else know why 12.04 update isn't showing up for me? :/
[01:05] <MonkeyDust> NictraSavios  i've been using it for over a year now
[01:06] <alex369> Hi guys
[01:06] <IronFart> what do you want alex369!
[01:06] <NictraSavios> MonkeyDust, Heard* and, Wow, I've always hated to have to use a VM to use YUMI :P.
[01:07] <alex369> Do you know one channel for archlinux's support? I tried with archlinux and linux but nothing to do, i've problem on freenode for login. Can anyone help me?
[01:07] <NictraSavios> MonkeyDust, I run a pure Linux system with a VM for iTunes, Photoshop, Illustrator, etc.
[01:07] <NictraSavios> alex #archlinux .... Since your an arch user, RTFM. You could have googled that aha
[01:07] <Krywk> NictraSavios, iTunes = There are equivalents, Photoshop = Playonlinux, ADOBE = Playonlinux
[01:07] <NictraSavios> alex369, ^*
[01:08] <sarsaeol> alex369: google says #archlinux
[01:08] <Wally> How does one uhh remove "individual packages" using synaptic packagemanger.. EG: I'm trying to remove gnome games but it wants to remove gnome as well
[01:08] <i7c> NictraSavios: which VM software do you use?
[01:08] <NictraSavios> Krywk, iTunes, none as seamless for iPhone syncing. and CS6 dosen't work yet.
[01:08] <alex369> I tried with #archlinux but the login is necessary and i'm not able to login.
[01:09] <NictraSavios> i7c, Virtualbox, Never had an issue with it aha.
[01:09] <i7c> alex369: do you have an account? if not, get one ;)
[01:09] <Ironsight> Register a new nick then ;p
[01:09] <alex369> i7c: yes, but i can't connect, i don't know why.
[01:09] <NictraSavios> alex369, Google "make account on freenode". Major skill as an arch user is googlefu and wikifu.
[01:09] <alex369> Ironsight: oh my god, another account?
[01:09] <i7c> NictraSavios: photoshop does not work in the vm?
[01:09] <Ironsight> I have like 3
[01:10] <NictraSavios> i7c, Works fine :P
[01:10] <surface> screen -r irc
[01:10] <i7c> NictraSavios: ok good. i thought it should :D
[01:10] <domino14> where is my awesome vpn helper?
[01:10] <domino14> i think i've successfully connected to an openvpn server, on another machine, but ping 10.8.0.1 times out
[01:11] <NictraSavios> i7c, With 12GB of ram in this laptop, I can easliy devote 6-8 to the vm and everything runs smooth a waterslide.
[01:11] <NictraSavios> as a*
[01:11] <Krywk> as smooth as a*
[01:11] <i7c> lol
[01:12] <i7c> i have only 6GB but i think should be enough since ubuntu doesnt use anything of it :D
[01:12] <NictraSavios> Yeah.... If you've noticed my typing sucks? Getting used to this wireless keyboard -_-.
[01:12] <Krywk> Hahaha
[01:12] <i7c> on startup i have like 200MiB used. how nice is this. thanks to xfce tho. unity would eat RAM like windows.
[01:12] <Krywk> Anyone here experienced in Mono?
[01:13] <NictraSavios> i7c, I use Gnome 3. The only thing that I like about unity is the taskbar icon that integrates Mail, Chat, Social Networks and Feeds all into one nice menu.
[01:14] <NictraSavios> i7c, Its a ram eater but... Its a pretty ram eater P. Maybe I'll give Cinnamon a go in a week or so.
[01:15] <domino14> init[dot]d: hi
[01:15] <i7c> NictraSavios: :D yeh it's pretty indeed. but i can't take delays. those make me mad. and xfce is fast and with some confing and theming beautiful + highly usable
[01:15] <init[dot]d> domino14, ohai
[01:15] <ule> hi.. Why the version 12.04 server has changed the "dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" command? How can I change my keyboard map now?  Someone can help me to how to change my keyboard in version 12.04 using only CLI?
[01:16] <domino14> init[dot]d: so i got my openvpn server and client, and i believe i've connected the client to the server -- is ee this line Tue Jun 26 01:06:54 2012 Initialization Sequence Completed
[01:16] <domino14> but doing ping 10.8.0.1 times out
[01:16] <NictraSavios> i7c, No arguments here, it's a stable, spartan DE and those that like it, love it!
[01:16] <init[dot]d> domino14, thats a gateway IP
[01:16] <init[dot]d> whats the IP of the server?
[01:17] <domino14> i used the default server conf file that has this server 10.8.0.0 255.255.255.0
[01:17] <i7c> NictraSavios: :). anyways i'm off to bed. see ya around.
[01:17] <domino14> the comments above it say The server will take 10.8.0.1 for itself,
[01:17] <NictraSavios> i7c, Night :P
[01:17] <domino14> # Each client will be able to reach the server # on 10.8.0.1. Comment this line out if you are
[01:17] <NictraSavios> Does splitting your layout over multiple partitions (/, /home, /boot, /var, /usr and /tmp) have any real advantage for a home user vs the standard (/ and /boot) config. (I don't use my /home for data, I use a separate ntfs partition) ?
[01:18] <init[dot]d> ok ifconfig
[01:18] <domino14> ifconfig tun0 tells me inet addr:10.8.0.6  P-t-P:10.8.0.5  Mask:255.255.255.255
[01:18] <domino14>  (on the client)
[01:18] <init[dot]d> is there already anything attached to that IP address?
[01:18] <th0r> NictraSavios, having a separate /home partition means when/if you reinstall your config files remain intact
[01:18] <domino14> ifconfig tun0 on the server tells me inet addr:10.8.0.1  P-t-P:10.8.0.2  Mask:255.255.255.255
[01:19] <domino14> i don't think theres anything attached
[01:19] <ratcheer> NictraSavios: No, just /home like th0r said
[01:20] <init[dot]d> and a ping times out?
[01:20] <domino14> yeah they just all fail
[01:20] <NictraSavios> ratcheer, th0r So all that stuff about it being better to have a /var, /usr and /tmp dosen't apply for home use? No increased security gained?
[01:21] <efors> dd
[01:21] <init[dot]d> domino14, ok are you in the server or in a vm or what?
[01:21] <th0r> NictraSavios, I have run linux for a long time, and find that having / and /home is all I need
[01:21] <domino14> the server is a box on EC2, the client is a box on Rackspace
[01:22] <domino14> i guess by box i mean a virtual server
[01:22] <NictraSavios> th0r, Alright, thank you. I use luks encryption so I need a separate /boot. But otherwise, you advice helps a lot! aha
[01:22] <init[dot]d> ok and can you ssh into 10.8.0.1?
[01:22] <NictraSavios> your*
[01:22] <ratcheer> NictraSavios: I also use a separate swap partition, but it is shared among all my Linux distros.
[01:23] <NictraSavios> ratcheer, I tend to use swap files since having them on the root means their already encrypted, no need to worry about unencrypted data being written to them on suspend to disk.
[01:24] <NictraSavios> ratcheer, I have Ubuntu Linux and Backtrack Linux installed. I keep windows 7 and windows 8 on a vm :P
[01:25] <PMMN> Hi!
[01:26] <domino14> the ssh commands just times out init[dot]d
[01:27] <init[dot]d> hm
[01:27] <init[dot]d> ping the 10.8.0.4
[01:28] <Pinkamena_D> hello [i]again[/i], can anyone give me a havd with my split network thing? (im going to be back here ever night until it is solved)
[01:29] <rhizmoe> does show-desktop always clear ALL WORKSPACES?
[01:29] <Pinkamena_D> i need help routing traffic from transmission-daemon into a seperatc network interface
[01:29] <rhizmoe> Pinkamena_D: wtf BBCode?
[01:29] <Pinkamena_D> using iptables
[01:29] <IronFart> hey
[01:29] <IronFart> how do i cancel this dropbox install
[01:29] <rhizmoe> IronFart: ask dropbox
[01:29] <IronFart> it's hanging at 99% and until I figure out how to properly get rid of it
[01:29] <IronFart> I can't use the synaptic package manager
[01:29] <IronFart> or install anything else for that matter
[01:30] <Pinkamena_D> well i thought you guys would understand what it was supposed to look like from the code because irssi provides no real way to do it
[01:30] <Pinkamena_D> (or i guess irc protocol)
[01:30] <shadykhan> okay i need some help
[01:30] <rhizmoe> irc is a plain text medium
[01:30] <Pinkamena_D> ok
[01:30] <Krywk> IronFart, #dropbox
[01:30] <shadykhan> my ubuntu cursor is stuck in drag mode
[01:30] <Draxel> Hi guys! How to increase fan speed? My laptop is running hot, it even shut down it self. :/
[01:30] <shadykhan> and i cant click anything
[01:31] <init[dot]d> Pinkamena_D, welcome back
[01:31] <Pinkamena_D> yes, so i have to express my italics with plain text
[01:31] <Pinkamena_D> -_-
[01:31] <rhizmoe> oh /really/
[01:31] <Pinkamena_D> hmm
[01:31] <Pinkamena_D> ok i will remember that for the future
[01:31] <rhizmoe> *do that*
[01:31] <rhizmoe> oh, that's usually bold
[01:31] <Pinkamena_D> hello again etc/init.d
[01:32] <Pinkamena_D> can you explain your iptables suggestion a bit? (if you have time)
[01:32] <Draxel> how to control fan speed?
[01:32] <rhizmoe> i didn't have one
[01:32] <Pinkamena_D> i meant init.d
[01:32] <init[dot]d> Pinkamena_D, like?
[01:32] <Draxel> hey
[01:33] <Draxel> what's the temperature of your laptops running ubuntu 12.04?
[01:33] <shadykhan> so any idea with the stuck cursor?
[01:33] <Draxel> CPU temperature
[01:33] <Pinkamena_D> well, how does it sync with trnsmission? does the incoming traffic port spefici all traffic or just incoming? can you bind iptables to a pid instead of a port if not?
[01:33] <Draxel>  my CPU is at 80Celcius :/
[01:33] <haz3lnut> Draxel: that's freakin hot
[01:34] <haz3lnut> Draxel: check your cooling fan. it may be loose.
[01:34] <Draxel> haz3lnut and the cpu usage is 16%
[01:34] <init[dot]d> Pinkamena_D, it would be done by port
[01:34] <haz3lnut> or clogged with dust
[01:34] <Pinkamena_D> for the cursor try violently tapping all the keys on your keyboard and mouse
[01:34] <Draxel> haz3lnut it works fine on win7 so i think this is a software issue
[01:34] <Pinkamena_D> that usually works for me
[01:35] <Pinkamena_D> ok, so port
[01:35] <haz3lnut> Draxel: are you overclocked?
[01:35] <init[dot]d> and would look similar to this /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 -d 10.40.30.123 --dport 80 -j DNAT --to 10.40.30.123:31337(your_port_here)
[01:35] <Pinkamena_D> their is no port specified in settings.json, but their is one in the program itself
[01:35] <Draxel> haz3lnut no. it's just a dell laptop with i3 cpu.
[01:35] <Pinkamena_D> however it only says "incoming"
[01:36] <Pinkamena_D> what is DPORT and the two addresses
[01:36] <haz3lnut> Draxel: 16% doesn;t seem high enough to cause all that heat.
[01:36] <Draxel> haz3lnut is there any way to manually increase fan speed on ubuntu?
[01:36] <Pinkamena_D> are they gateways or the ip of the interfaces or what
[01:37] <haz3lnut> Draxel: that, I don;t know
[01:37] <efors> what kernel is Ubuntu on now?
[01:37] <DoobieDoobie> 3.2
[01:37] <efors> thx
[01:37] <DoobieDoobie> np
[01:37] <efors> How do you see that?
[01:38] <DoobieDoobie> $ uname -r
[01:38] <Draxel> haz3lnut,  my laptop unexpectedly shut down while i was working with gimp. I think, the fan is not running as fast as needed
[01:38] <init[dot]d> Pinkamena_D, open a terminal and man iptables
[01:38] <init[dot]d> it gives a breakdown of all of it and how to do it
[01:39] <Pinkamena_D> i tried that once, it just broke everything
[01:39] <Pinkamena_D> however, if you believe it to be the best course of action, so be it
[01:40] <haz3lnut> Draxel: wish I could help you more.  It just seems unlikely it's software, and more likely you have too much dust in your machine.  Screwdriver and a vacuum usually helps with that.
[01:40] <DoobieDoobie> Draxel: Be careful with that vacuum hose, though.
[01:40] <Pinkamena_D> draxel, though not a global statement, all the laptops i have used are generally bad for things processor intensive
[01:40] <haz3lnut> lol
[01:40] <DoobieDoobie> ;)
[01:41] <haz3lnut> don;t suck up any capacitors!
[01:41] <DoobieDoobie> exactamundo!
[01:41] <Draxel> haz3lnut, Thanks for your help. I'll try to sort it out :)
[01:41] <Pinkamena_D> if clearing the dust does not help, though, you may try prying the heatsinks and applying some artic silver or something
[01:41] <shadykhan> My mouse is stuck in drag&drop mode is there a way to fix it without restarting?
[01:41] <Pinkamena_D> that helped greatly on one for me
[01:41] <Draxel> but it is commonly known that ubuntu makes pcs run hotter isn't it?
[01:42] <Pinkamena_D> not that i was aware of
[01:42] <DoobieDoobie> Me either.
[01:42] <haz3lnut> No
[01:42] <domino14> hey i got a question about openvpn.. the internet told me to set it in UDP mode but i really need all the packets for this operation (redis replication)
[01:42] <domino14> will openvpn be smart enough to not actually drop those packets?
[01:42] <DoobieDoobie> My laptop actually runs cooler on Ubuntu, of course YMMV.
[01:43] <Draxel> even battery life is lower on ubuntu even though no intensive applications are used
[01:43] <DoobieDoobie> Draxel: Compared to what?
[01:44] <Draxel> win7
[01:44] <Pinkamena_D> i do not think that is a global statement, but i suppose it is possible drivers for other operating systems may work better.
[01:44] <Pinkamena_D> in specific applications
[01:44] <DoobieDoobie> Honestly, it's hard to make a comparision without a lab-type setup.
[01:45] <DoobieDoobie> Each OS, configuration, installed software, are so different. Even on the same box.
[01:45] <Pinkamena_D> still, no matter what OS you decide to run, clean out the dust, replace the thermal paste if needed
[01:45] <Draxel> I had several laptops running both ubuntu and win7, and I noticed both hotter temperatures as well as shorter battery lives :) that's just my observation.
[01:45] <Pinkamena_D> maybe the fan itself want bad and runs slow, i have had thos heppen to my northbridge once
[01:45] <Draxel> Pinkamena I use relatively new laptop
[01:46] <Pinkamena_D> alright, np, just saying that has worked for me ...sometimes
[01:46] <Draxel> anyway, I suspect this is something to do with fan speed. I need to increase it ;)
[01:47] <haz3lnut> Draxel: you might want to research cpufrequtils. I have never used it, and others here might have som input, but it will allow you to have more control over your cpu speed, thus potentially reducing heat.
[01:47] <fwiss> Hi, #Ubuntu. I have a partition problem.
[01:47] <DoobieDoobie> ask away
[01:47] <Draxel> haz3lnut, thanks. i'll take a look at it
[01:48] <fwiss> For some reason, my extended partition won't increase in size (using GParted)
[01:48] <Draxel> cheers for your suggestions :) See you later guys
[01:48] <fwiss> I will be using the Live CD, so ignore the locks for now.
[01:48] <DoobieDoobie> l8r, Draxel
[01:48] <fwiss> Here's the layout:
[01:48] <fwiss> http://static.inky.ws/image/2237/image.jpg
[01:50] <moratinos> any body help me   with the livce cd for ubuntu
[01:50] <shadykhan> moratinos, what you need help me
[01:50] <shadykhan> i ment what you need haha
[01:51] <shadykhan> ive been trying to get help but no dice for me
[01:51] <moratinos> i just dont know how to do it  and i dont know  if the descktop version will work for my laptop
[01:51] <fwiss> Desktop version works on laptops
[01:51] <shadykhan> will work
[01:51] <fwiss> What laptop do you have
[01:52] <moratinos> acer
[01:52] <fwiss> Linux probably has support for it.
[01:52] <fwiss> How old>
[01:52] <fwiss> ?
[01:52] <shadykhan> it will work but you can wubi install it and see how it goes
[01:52] <haz3lnut> moratinos: if you know how to get to your bios, set it to boot from cd and go.
[01:52] <DoobieDoobie> I don't see anything wrong with your HDD, fswiss.
[01:52] <fwiss> moratinos, have you burned to live cd yet?
[01:52] <moratinos> i need to make live cd
[01:52] <moratinos> and dont know how
[01:52] <fwiss> Using Windows
[01:52] <shadykhan> ahh
[01:52] <fwiss> ?
[01:52] <init[dot]d> necronomicon?
[01:52] <metbsd> is it possible to wubi install other linux distros
[01:52] <fwiss> I use InfraRecorder.
[01:53] <shadykhan> MetaBot_, i dont think so
[01:53] <fwiss> For CDs
[01:53] <shadykhan> windows 7 has an iso burner
[01:53] <shadykhan> built in the OS
[01:53] <squishumz> what does the term 'kernal' mean/
[01:53] <fwiss> I don't think W7's built-in burner worked for me, though.
[01:53] <haz3lnut> shadykhan: really? they finally put that in the os?
[01:53] <fwiss> kernel is the center of the OS
[01:53] <shadykhan> yep
[01:53] <moratinos> im very bnew to all this  and i jst dont understand most of what you guys are saying lol
[01:54] <shadykhan> moratinos i would link you
[01:54] <DoobieDoobie> moratinos: Are you using Windows 7?
[01:54] <shadykhan> but i cant do anything cause my mouse is stuck in drag mode
[01:54] <moratinos> thank you
[01:54] <shadykhan> and i cant click on anything
[01:54] <fwiss> shadykhan
[01:54] <shadykhan> thats why im in here for help
[01:54] <DoobieDoobie> moratinos: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Burn-a-CD-or-DVD-from-an-ISO-file
[01:54] <fwiss> talk to me, your mouse is stuck in drag?
[01:54] <shadykhan> yeah this happens atleast once a day to me
[01:54] <shadykhan> dragging something
[01:54] <fwiss> It happens to me
[01:54] <fwiss> too
[01:54] <shadykhan> and now my mouse icon changed to the dragging icon
[01:54] <fwiss> using Sandy Bridge, you?
[01:54] <haz3lnut> never happened to me
[01:54] <shadykhan> now i can easily restart
[01:55] <shadykhan> happens to me using Firefox
[01:55] <fwiss> Shadykhan, are you using sandy bridge?
[01:55] <shadykhan> no
[01:55] <fwiss> What chipset then?
[01:56] <fwiss> Because I get this problem too, except I'm not dragging anything, so it happens when I'm watching video and stuff, too,
[01:56] <shadykhan> ahh im on a amd chipset
[01:56] <fwiss> Anyway, GParted says I can't have overlapping partitions.
[01:56] <shadykhan> fwiss, so how do you fix it?
[01:56] <fwiss> I didn't.
[01:56] <shadykhan> well how do you solve it
[01:56] <fwiss> It still happens.
[01:56] <shadykhan> when it happens
[01:56] <shadykhan> restart?
[01:57] <fwiss> I switch to tty1
[01:57] <fwiss> and restart Xorg's process
[01:57] <fwiss> it doesn't happen more than once a day generally.
[01:57] <fwiss> I'm hoping it'll be fixed in 12.10
[01:57] <fwiss> if not
[01:57] <haz3lnut> right-alt/SysRq/K
[01:57] <fwiss> I'm going back to Windows.
[01:57] <Ranget> how can i buil a custome ubunto such as susestudio
[01:58] <bazhang> !remaster | Ranget
[01:58] <DoobieDoobie> fwiss: did you try downloading Ubuntu Rescue Remix, burning a liveCD, and running the testdisk tool?
[01:58] <fwiss> DoobieDoobie:
[01:59] <DoobieDoobie> huh?
[01:59] <fwiss> My disk works fine on evrything elese
[01:59] <fwiss> *else
[01:59] <Pinkamena_D> i have been reding the iptables thing an i am still lost.
[01:59] <fwiss> It just can't extend that partition
[02:00] <fwiss> I'm guessing it's because my /boot is inside the extended partition?
[02:00] <DoobieDoobie> fwiss: you might want to have a look at this. similar issue
[02:00] <DoobieDoobie> http://superuser.com/questions/275158/gparted-error-cant-have-overlapping-partitions
[02:01] <fwiss> Well, I purposefully unallocated that disk space
[02:01] <Ranget> thanks but that's not as easy as susestudio
[02:01] <fwiss> I took it from Windows 7's partition
[02:01] <DoobieDoobie> Ahh, I see. then you're probably right about the /boot dir
[02:01] <bazhang> Ranget, there is no such ubuntu equivalent
[02:01] <fwiss> and I want to add that free space to my extended partition.
[02:02] <fwiss> But even when I'm using Gparted live cd, it locks the same, just without locks.
[02:02] <Ranget> ok thanks
[02:03] <fwiss> If it were that the boot part was the prob, it would warn me, but let it continue.
[02:03] <fwiss> In this case, I simply can't increase the size of the ext. partition.
[02:05] <tomvolek> Hi all, I am looking for deploymnet tools, mostly  C++ code base and some Java to over 50 or so Ubuntu hosts .  Any thoughts ?
[02:06] <fwiss> Well, bye then.
[02:06] <DoobieDoobie> fwiss: can you provide the output of: fdisk -u ?
[02:06] <DoobieDoobie> fdisk -lu I mean
[02:07] <DoobieDoobie> Oh, he's gone.
[02:07] <Jagst3r15> any way to make backspace key work on browsers to go backa  page?
[02:07]  * WFPKHC wonders on into the channel
[02:07] <Jagst3r15> it works on windows
[02:07] <WFPKHC> Hello everyone....
[02:08] <WFPKHC> is there any really good documentation (i have searched lots of places and cannot find any) on linux partitions and how to make them when installing linux?
[02:09] <bazhang> !partition > WFPKHC
[02:09] <WFPKHC> thank you
[02:09] <WFPKHC> the link the bot gave me was a 404
[02:10] <WFPKHC> brb lunch\
[02:12] <DoobieDoobie> The doctor is in!
[02:12] <dr_willis> where?
[02:13] <Anxi80> is refit still required for installing ubuntu on an apple laptop?
[02:13] <DoobieDoobie> My wife is a PhD. she just entered the room. :\
[02:13] <bazhang> !ot | DoobieDoobie
[02:14] <dr_willis> !apple
[02:14] <dr_willis> hmm.
[02:14] <dr_willis> not the right factoid..
[02:14] <dr_willis> !mac
[02:15] <AcidRain2012> can anyone tell me why i had 38gig free space yesturday. now all of a sudden i have 0bytes. ?
[02:16] <AcidRain2012> this isnt the first time this has happened
[02:16] <AcidRain2012> with different disks too
[02:16] <AcidRain2012> it says my home folder is taking up 58gigs
[02:17] <AcidRain2012> but when i use disk analyzer. nothing in my home folder equals anywhere close to 58gigs at all
[02:17] <AcidRain2012> it may be maxing out at like 20megs lol
[02:17] <Anxi80> dr_willis, thanks but i've already gone through the wiki. It doesn't list my machine :(
[02:17] <percent20> I did something stupid and deleted nginx from my init.d is there a way to regenerate it?
[02:17] <Anxi80> and when it does, it only talks about a much older version of ubuntu
[02:17] <dr_willis> Anxi80:  what machine?
[02:18] <AcidRain2012> anyone ever experienced this before?
[02:18] <init[dot]d> anyone wanna work on a project with me? Python + Perl
[02:18] <enlace_quimico> this is really sad. i'm no longer in the admin group on  my desktop and i can't get to the recovery grub menu  because my computer boots to fast. lol. i just wanted  to make sure that shift or esc were the keys to get to  that menu.
[02:18] <enlace_quimico> before i have to live cd this mess
[02:18] <bazhang> init[dot]d, thats not on topic here
[02:19] <init[dot]d> bazhang, true
[02:19] <Anxi80> dr_willis, my machine is version 2.1 of the MacBook Pro
[02:19] <dr_willis> enlace_quimico: shift if grub is hidden
[02:19] <Anxi80> dr_willis, 64-bit cpu on a 32-bit chipset
[02:19] <enlace_quimico> dr_willis: thanks. i'm having first world problems over here.
[02:20] <AcidRain2012> gparted even says 68.9 gigs used space. 5.98 gigs free space
[02:20] <AcidRain2012> how did i lose all space overnight?
[02:20] <init[dot]d> AcidRain2012, did you install something recently?
[02:20] <init[dot]d> sometimes BIND9 will cause excessive memory issues when not configured correctly
[02:21] <AcidRain2012> init[dot]d: no i havent
[02:21] <AcidRain2012> init[dot]d: the issue is im not seeing where all of my space is being taken up
[02:21] <AcidRain2012> all files on my computer dont total 69 gigs according to disk analyzer
[02:21] <sicko> ahh guys can u help me, i installed ubuntu alongside windows xp but xp has dissapeared from the boot menu
[02:22] <init[dot]d> AcidRain2012, ps aux
[02:22] <init[dot]d> will list your processes
[02:22] <AcidRain2012> it says like... dude max 20megs taken
[02:22] <AcidRain2012> how do i tell by this process list if anything is using alot of m emory?
[02:23] <AcidRain2012> this has to do with disk space though... i dont see what processes have to do with it
[02:23] <dr_willis> are we talking memory... or hard drive space.....
[02:23] <dr_willis> ;)
[02:23] <AcidRain2012> hard disk space
[02:23] <AcidRain2012> lol. does anyone have on hand 68gig memory?
[02:23] <dr_willis> id start with a fsck from a live cd.
[02:24] <init[dot]d> AcidRain2012,  ps aux lists it like this root         1  0.0  0.0
[02:24] <sicko> umm hello
[02:24] <init[dot]d> the 0.0 will be your CPU and MEM%
[02:24] <dr_willis> AcidRain2012: in here.. possibility.
[02:24] <AcidRain2012> lol
[02:24] <init[dot]d> oh true
[02:24] <AcidRain2012> init[dot]d: how does this help? im talking disk space man
[02:24] <init[dot]d> my bad
[02:24] <dr_willis> ive seen huge log files befor..
[02:25] <sicko> apparently its something to do with something called grub
[02:25] <AcidRain2012> my log file is 1 meg
[02:25] <sicko> nvm ill talk to myself
[02:25] <dr_willis> !grub
[02:25] <dr_willis> !patience
[02:25] <WFPKHC> is there any really good documentation (i have searched lots of places and cannot find any) on linux partitions and how to make them when installing linux?
[02:25] <AcidRain2012> all i want to know is how is this possible?
[02:25] <WFPKHC> the link the bot gave me was a 404
[02:26] <zombifier> sicko: Just ask your question
[02:26] <AcidRain2012> how do i search google for something like "i had at LEAST 30gig one day. next day i have 0bytes free disk space. ubuntu"?
[02:26] <AcidRain2012> i get off the wall results about people pimping their computer. nothing about losing it
[02:26] <init[dot]d> AcidRain2012, try df -H
[02:26] <sicko> what three times
[02:26] <zombifier> AcidRain2012: Ubuntu has a disk analyzer tool, launch it and see what folders are eating up space
[02:26] <sicko> na ya alright m8
[02:27] <AcidRain2012> zombifier: i told u already. when i use disk analyzer, it says 68gigs UESED space. but no file in any folder is greater than 2megs. and the rest are like 1kb files
[02:27] <sicko> basically windows xp has disapearred from the boot menu
[02:27] <AcidRain2012> well u know wha ti mean
[02:28] <init[dot]d> sicko, can you get into xp?
[02:28] <zombifier> sicko: Try running 'sudo update-grub' (without quotes)
[02:28] <sicko> na theres no option ubuntu auto boots
[02:28] <sicko> kk
[02:28] <Jagst3r15> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[02:28] <Jagst3r15> sorry
[02:29] <sicko> zombifier, then wut reboot ?
[02:29] <AcidRain2012> hmmm. seems a file of size 599megs. (the offspring discography) that i downloaded is apparently taking up 99% of disk space.... when i have 68gigs used on a 80gig hdd
[02:29] <zombifier> Does the output shows Windows XP?
[02:29] <Jagst3r15> anyone know where u can suggest stuff that ubuntu develoipers will look at?
[02:29] <bazhang> !brainstorm | Jagst3r15
[02:30] <Jagst3r15> ty mr. bot
[02:30] <baazigar> Hello, i want to be able to set passwords to my txt files. How can i do that.
[02:30] <AcidRain2012> wtf. when i delete files it says at 100% still!
[02:30] <AcidRain2012> its like something is taking more disk space as i free more disk space
[02:30] <AcidRain2012> ubuntu virus perhaps?
[02:31] <baazigar> AcidRain2012 : delete from trash too
[02:31] <zombifier> AcidRain2012: Install BleachBit, clean up junk, and see if it helps
[02:31] <AcidRain2012> baazigar: i am deleting from trash
[02:31] <AcidRain2012> i swear
[02:31] <AcidRain2012> yall are thinkin im crazy
[02:31] <init[dot]d> baazigar, mcrypt myfile.txt
[02:31] <dr_willis> AcidRain2012:   more likely some service logging faster then you can delete..
[02:31] <init[dot]d> from terminal
[02:31] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis: what service could do that?
[02:32] <sicko> updatet grub still no xp option at the start just a str8 boot into ubuntu
[02:32] <AcidRain2012> and why does that services log files not show up in disk analyzer?
[02:32] <baazigar> init[dot]d : let me try that
[02:32] <dr_willis> this is why i sugested a licve cd earlier.. to get to a known state
[02:32] <dr_willis> never used disk analizer. i tend to use the cli tools
[02:33] <sicko> it even asked me if in wanted to install alongside xp i clicked yes
[02:33] <sicko> how retarded
[02:33] <awk_sed_grep> ubottu: can you help me?
[02:34] <sicko> fuckin ubuntu
[02:34] <init[dot]d> my
[02:35] <awk_sed_grep> !ops
[02:35] <bazhang> sicko, no cursing here
[02:35] <sicko> wut
[02:35] <zombifier> sicko: When you update-grub does the output of the command shows Windows XP at all?
[02:35] <bazhang> awk_sed_grep, yes?
[02:35] <sicko> yup
[02:35] <IdleOne> !language | sicko
[02:35] <sicko> its 2am
[02:35] <awk_sed_grep> Oh man, sorry. I misunderstood what that was for.
[02:35] <Jordan_U> !language | sicko
[02:35] <sicko> my bad 3:35am
[02:35] <IdleOne> sicko: doesn't matter what time it is in your little part of the universe
[02:36] <joint> does anybody here run ubuntu?
[02:36] <sicko> my little part huh
[02:36] <dr_willis> sicko  be mmore verbose in your answers..  several people may ask you somthing.. just saying 'yep' dosent clarify which one you answered
[02:36] <init[dot]d> joint, nope
[02:36] <sicko> same as ur little part m8
[02:36] <zombifier> joint: it should be obvious
[02:36] <dr_willis> sicko how many hard drives are on your system?
[02:36] <bazhang> joint, whats the real question
[02:36] <zombifier> sicko: Maybe Windows XP is still there, but Grub's timeout value is 0
[02:36] <sicko> means squat to me
[02:36] <AcidRain2012> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=65zymt&s=6   --- here is a screen shot of disk analyzer
[02:37] <dr_willis> http://unstableme.blogspot.com/2009/01/find-largest-files-in-linux.html
[02:37] <AcidRain2012> i have 2.8gigs of free disk space. but 58 used. how is that possible when it really says .7% used under it?
[02:37] <sicko> yeah xp is still there for sure
[02:37] <Jordan_U> sicko: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[02:37] <sicko> sec
[02:38] <dr_willis> 5% of an ext2/3/4 is reserved by default for root ussage
[02:38] <sicko> Jordan_U,  /dev/sda1:Microsoft Windows XP Professional:Windows:chain
[02:38] <zombifier> sicko: Then the problem is with Grub's timeout value
[02:39] <sicko> ok
[02:39] <sicko> how to fix m8
[02:39] <Jordan_U> sicko: Can you pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[02:39] <sicko> ill try
[02:39] <dr_willis> sicko so you do or do not see a GRUB menu when you first boot wwith a list of the  differnt linux  kernels?
[02:39] <sicko> no grub menu str8 into ubntu
[02:40] <dr_willis> so the grub menu is hidden.  holding shift as it boots should make it appear.
[02:40] <sicko> ok lets try that
[02:40] <sicko> brb
[02:40] <dr_willis> they really really need to print some message about hidden grub when the system boots.. or ust stop hideing the thing..
[02:42] <sicko> no joy holding shift
[02:42] <zombifier> Looks like it's changing timeout value by hand
[02:43] <sicko> dr_willis,  no grub menu whatsoever
[02:43] <baazigar> init[dot]d : how to decrypt it again?
[02:43] <sicko> dr_willis, holding shift does make it apppear
[02:43] <baazigar> init[dot]d : i simply did mcrypt dom.txt
[02:43] <baazigar> how to decrypt it again
[02:44] <dr_willis> sicko you can edit the file /etc/default/grub   to change the timeout value and have it not hide the grub menu. but im not on a  linux box so cant walk you through it.
[02:44] <dr_willis> but there should be others in here that can, and tons of online docs on the /etc/default/grub file
[02:45] <AcidRain2012> bleechbit is raping my computer right now
[02:45] <AcidRain2012> lol
[02:45] <init[dot]d> baazigar, mcrypt_decrypt file.txt
[02:45] <IdleOne> AcidRain2012: keep it family friendly please
[02:45] <AcidRain2012> like brutally.
[02:45] <ludlow> !deepin
[02:45] <AcidRain2012> hey im just saying. my computer is running so slow rightnow
[02:46] <ludlow> !chrome
[02:46] <sicko> sigh
[02:46] <ludlow> !shatterworth
[02:46] <Jordan_U> sicko: Can you pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[02:46] <init[dot]d> baazigar, or mdecrypt file.txt
[02:46] <IdleOne> !msgthebot | ludlow
[02:46] <sicko> ill try locate it for you Jordan sec m8
[02:46] <zombifier> sicko: Edit the /etc/default/grub file, find the line "GRUB_TIMEOUT" and post the value
[02:47] <baazigar> init[dot]d : it says unknown suffix, appending .dc
[02:47] <AcidRain2012> wtf... bleechbit hacked me!
[02:47] <baazigar> whereas it encrypted in .nc
[02:47] <AcidRain2012> unable to locate xauthentication file
[02:47] <AcidRain2012> opmg
[02:47]  * dr_willis sedates AcidRain2012 
[02:48] <AcidRain2012> ok. thx to bleechbit ive lost half files on my comp. and still 58gig space used
[02:48] <AcidRain2012> :/.
[02:48] <sicko> zombifier,  http://pastebin.com/H3zCKhhP
[02:49] <baazigar> init[dot]d : i found the way ---> mcrypt -d file.txt.nc
[02:50] <Jordan_U> sicko: To pastebin your grub.cfg file you can install pastebinit with "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then run  "sudo cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | pastebinit".
[02:50] <sicko> http://pastebin.com/H3zCKhhP
[02:50] <sicko> is that not it ?
[02:50] <Jordan_U> sicko: That is not it.
[02:50] <sicko> ok
[02:51] <Jagst3r15> is there any way to update the google chrome from the official google site?
[02:51] <Jordan_U> Jagst3r15: I don't understand what you mean. Could you try to rephrase your question?
[02:51] <Jagst3r15> like u know how u can get the google chrome from google.com it is more up to date, however it does not have auto update
[02:52] <zombifier> Jagst3r15: I haven't used Chrome, but I think it automatically adds it repo into your system
[02:52] <Jagst3r15> so how would u update it
[02:52] <zombifier> so it's updated via Update Manager
[02:52] <Jagst3r15> cuz the chromium one is bad
[02:52] <Jagst3r15> it is like a full version behind
[02:52] <sicko> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060101/
[02:52] <Jordan_U> Jagst3r15: Installing google chrome's .deb packages automatically adds a chrome repository.
[02:52] <Jagst3r15> and that will update itself?
[02:53] <zombifier> Ubuntu's Update Manager will do the job
[02:53] <Like> Mate qap
[02:53] <dr_willis> google chromes deb does add the google repo. then the package manager can updagte chrome.. yes..
[02:54] <Jagst3r15> u know im taking about google chrome not chromium right
[02:54] <Jagst3r15> sorry just checking cuz i am noob
[02:54] <Jordan_U> sicko: Could you run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces? (ubottu will give you instructions).
[02:54] <dr_willis> Googles Official Chrome DEB file.. adds the google Repository when the deb is installed....
[02:54] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | sicko
[02:55] <sicko> kk
[02:55] <Jagst3r15> dr_willis does it like check the google.com repo daily to see if its current?
[02:55] <Jagst3r15> trying to figure out how it works kinda ;)
[02:56] <dr_willis> Jagst3r15:  the package manager handles the updateing and checking... so how often it checks is  how often its checked...
[02:56] <dr_willis> I set mine to check once a week i belive
[02:56] <zombifier> Jagst3r15: If you're familiar with PPA, then this is the same
[02:56] <Jagst3r15> i am not
[02:56] <dr_willis> !ppa
[02:57] <dr_willis> chrome will get updated just like all the rest of the system does..
[02:57] <dr_willis> after that repository/ppa is setup.. which  is done automatically once you install the .deb
[02:57] <Jagst3r15> i see, thanks :)
[02:57] <zeroRooter> can i contribute to ubuntu with my halfwaydecent knowledge of Java? :D
[02:59] <zombifier> zeroRooter: there are loads of ways to contribute to Ubuntu, so maybe
[03:00] <hakin9> quit
[03:00] <sicko> ubottu, no idea how to run it m8
[03:00] <AcidRain2012> and bleechbit went commando on my computer. it worked. 57.19GIGS of disk space revoered thanks man
[03:01] <zombifier> AcidRain2012: lol
[03:02] <sniggles> yes, hello I am trying to make a USB to install ubuntu from
[03:02] <sniggles> i am currently running debian
[03:02] <zombifier> sniggles: install unetbootin
[03:02] <L3top> sniggles: try unetbootin.
[03:02] <sniggles> I am downloading the 12.04 iso... should I keep doing this?
[03:03] <psusi> sniggles, if that's the version you want to install
[03:03] <L3top> sniggles: yes... and burn it with unetbootin
[03:03] <sniggles> burn?
[03:03] <sniggles> "burn" the usb stick?
[03:03] <sicko> what a load of kuffuffle considering it told me i was installing alonside xp
[03:03] <zombifier> "burn" is not the right word :P
[03:03] <psusi> sniggles, for lack of a better word, yes
[03:03] <sicko> it blatantly lied to me
[03:03] <L3top> sniggles: It is a relative term.... but no... technically you are not burning it.
[03:04] <sniggles> is it stupid to do this with the USB? should I just go to the store and get a CD?
[03:04] <psusi> sniggles, I prefer usb... it's faster
[03:04] <sniggles> ahhh ok thx :]
[03:04] <L3top> sniggles: It is much faster, and generally less error prone.
[03:04] <MonkeyDust> sniggles  and you can erase it from usb
[03:04] <sniggles> im actually about a month into linuxing
[03:04] <sniggles> I started with debian because its the "original"
[03:04] <sniggles> but boy was that a fiasco
[03:05] <zombifier> sicko: Please don't rant about a problem you seems to be the only one having. Try posting on ubuntuforums.org
[03:05] <zombifier> and your XP is not removed. It's still there, just not detected
[03:05] <Scrivener> So in 12.04 I cannot get 2 displays working. It will not detect or display anything on the second display. I'm using up-to-date Nvidia drivers for my EVGA GeForce GTX 560Ti card, with one monitor using HDMI and the other using DVI. Suggestions?
[03:05] <sniggles> care to comment on mint vs. ubuntu?
[03:05] <sicko> na im fine ranting thanks :)
[03:05] <sicko> 31 years old im a rant if i need to rant
[03:05] <sniggles> i am open to all words of wisdom :]
[03:05] <MonkeyDust> sniggles  not here
[03:05] <sicko> ubuntu lied to me
[03:05] <L3top> !mint
[03:05] <zombifier> !offtopic
[03:06] <sniggles> ok sry
[03:06] <zeroRooter> zombifier: yeah but anything i could do Java related? i don't want to learn another language just yet, i want to master java first
[03:06] <L3top> sicko: millions of people use the side by side install method with windows. It was not a lie, you simply encountered a problem which most do not...
[03:07] <sicko> sok ill remove windows altogether using gparted and just use ubuntu for now fcuk it
[03:07] <Jordan_U> sicko: You can either post the boot info script results and I'm certain I can help you get things working again, or you can continue ranting and be removed from the channel.
[03:07] <sicko> get a grip u tard
[03:07] <L3top> sicko: cursing is not allowed here... no matter how misspelled.
[03:07] <sicko> im removin windows
[03:07] <Jagst3r15> sniggles see pm
[03:07] <L3top> Tard is not appropriate either.
[03:07] <Jagst3r15> he is angry
[03:07] <Jagst3r15> :o
[03:07] <zombifier> sicko: Try the ubuntuforums.org like what I said. Help is slower, but there might be more people there
[03:08] <Scrivener> Nevermind... turned out it was Nvidia software settings
[03:10] <L3top> sigh.
[03:11] <meiji11> hey there. I'm trying to get ubuntu 12.04 working on a dell latitude d800. x.org just hangs on a grey screen, presumably because unity starts and never finishes.
[03:11] <L3top> Why do users feel not only entitled to the help I want to give, but licensed to abuse? It is disheartening.
[03:11] <meiji11> I know very little about X.org and why it sometimes screws up.
[03:12] <dr_willis> L3top: yep. i tend to have little patience for that type these days
[03:12] <sauvin> L3top, welcome to the Internet Sandbox.
[03:13] <meiji11> to start, is there a log somewhere that I can look at, that might indicate the problem?
[03:13] <L3top> meiji11: can I please see the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA    that is if you are able to hit a terminal
[03:13] <meiji11> L3top: of course, one moment..
[03:14] <sacrebleu> Is there a way to upgrade remotely without having it hang during boot?  The folks at my VPS provider say there is some way
[03:14] <meiji11> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA corporation NV34M [GeForce FX Go5200 64M] [10de:0324] (rev a1)
[03:15] <ubuntu> nic
[03:15] <L3top> meiji11: /var/log/Xorg.0.log typically.
[03:16] <L3top> meiji11: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[03:16] <meiji11> 12.04
[03:17] <L3top> meiji11: you need nvidia-173 in that case
[03:17] <L3top> nvidia-current will NOT work.
[03:17] <sniggles> what will the best filesystem be to use for installing ubuntu on my SSD?
[03:17] <meiji11> ah, ok.
[03:18] <meiji11> is nvidia-173 a package?
[03:18] <nugger> How do I log out in cmd line
[03:18] <jrdnn> nugger: exit
[03:18] <L3top> meiji11: I would frankly sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-current first...
[03:18] <nugger> that will bring me to the login screen?
[03:18] <L3top> wait... in 1204 the -- might not be necessary
[03:18] <meiji11> ok, I'll do that.
[03:19] <L3top> !info nvidia-173
[03:19] <meiji11> nvidia-173 says it depends on xorg-video-abi-10 'but it is not installable'
[03:20] <meiji11> when I try to install xorg-video-abi-10, it says it's not available..
[03:20] <L3top> meiji11: have you installed some sort of ppa?
[03:20] <meiji11> I'm not sure, is there a way I can check? I guess by looking at sources.list?
[03:20] <L3top> ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[03:21] <ghostzali> join Bandung
[03:21] <L3top> btw meiji11, you should start typing my nic and hit tab to complete. This way I do not miss your replies.
[03:21] <meiji11> it returns nothing.
[03:21] <meiji11> L3top: ok, will do. sorry.
[03:22] <meiji11> L3top: I suppose that means there's no ppa?
[03:22] <L3top> meiji11: no reason to apologize... just letting you know. As to PPA that is not confirmed... just the normal position for them... give me a second
[03:23] <Scrivener> Alright, so does anyone here have experience with dual monitors and Nvidia cards in Ubuntu?
[03:25] <L3top> meiji11: does sudo dpkg --configure -a return anything?
[03:25] <meiji11> L3top: it doesn't.
[03:26] <L3top> meiji11: can you please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file? Because this really shouldn't be a problem...
[03:27] <L3top> !pastebin | meiji11
[03:27] <meiji11> L3top: let's see.. I only have the terminal available I'm the laptop. I'm on IRC through my desktop.. the laptop has wireless. so.. how best to do this. heh.
[03:27] <meiji11> never had to send mail or anything from the terminal before.
[03:27] <meiji11> L3top: this is proving to be an educational night.
[03:27] <L3top> !pastebinit | meiji11
[03:28] <L3top> meiji11: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[03:28] <L3top> meiji11: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:28] <meiji11> L3top: thanks, installing..
[03:29] <MonkeyDust> Scrivener  the nvidia developers do not like linux
[03:29] <meiji11> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060129
[03:29] <dr_willis>  used nvidia and dual monitors and occasionally dual nvidia cards on and off..
[03:30] <dr_willis> over the  last  few years
[03:30] <jrdnn> MonkeyDust: Isn't the nvidia blob updated for new xorg versions before fglrx usually?
[03:30] <Jagst3r15> dr_willis do i have to enable the manager to check for unspported updates for the google chrome?
[03:30] <Scrivener> MonkeyDust, So I've heard...
[03:30] <Scrivener> Even so...
[03:30] <Scrivener> Meh.
[03:30] <dr_willis> i find  nvidia support in linux better then ati/amd/fglrx - but so much depends on theexact cards you have
[03:30] <Scrivener> Let me get this error for you.
[03:30] <Scrivener> The exact card is an EVGA GTX 560Ti
[03:30] <dr_willis> Jagst3r15:  i never have needed to
[03:30] <MonkeyDust> Scrivener  try this (i have intel video myself, so havent tried) https://tjakubowski.wordpress.com/2012/05/06/ubuntu-12-04-dual-monitor-setup-with-nvidia-graphic-card/
[03:30] <Scrivener> But I'll grab the error.
[03:30] <Scrivener> I'm using nvidia-settings.
[03:30] <Jagst3r15> k thnx
[03:31] <Scrivener> I'll take a look. Thanks MonkeyDust
[03:31] <Scrivener> When researching my error, it seems like *every* single instance of it (and there are several) have gone unanswered
[03:31] <dr_willis> i tend to use the nvidia cards that have been out a while and are not 'cutting edge' so are more of a value/bang for the buck cards.  so i rarely  have issues with them
[03:31] <Scrivener> Except for one who said it was because nvidia-settings did not launch as root.
[03:31] <Scrivener> So I did so at the command line, but still no dice.
[03:32] <dr_willis> gksudo nvidia-settings  ;)
[03:32] <L3top> meiji11: that all looks very normal. Can you please give me the output of apt-cache policy | grep -i candid
[03:32] <dr_willis> the default ubuntu setup/menu  icons does run it as root i belive.
[03:32] <jga75> Hi to all people here
[03:33] <jga75> Anyone here with ubiquiti experience?
[03:33] <mindbender1> when trying to install the ati proprietary drivers, it failed with this line from the logs: fglrx_updates is not the alternative in use
[03:33] <L3top> Scrivener: please give me the output of: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[03:33] <meiji11> L3top: also returns nothing.
[03:33] <Scrivener> I'll give you the exact error, and I'll follow that up with that output. The error is short enough to go here.
[03:33] <Scrivener> ailed to set MetaMode (1) 'DFP-1: 1920x1080_60i @1920x1080 +0+0, DFP-2: 1600x900 @1600x900 +1920+0' (Mode 3520x1080, id: 55) on X screen 0
[03:33] <Scrivener> Oops.
[03:33] <Scrivener> Failed to set MetaMode (1) 'DFP-1: 1920x1080_60i @1920x1080 +0+0, DFP-2: 1600x900 @1600x900 +1920+0' (Mode 3520x1080, id: 55) on X screen 0
[03:33] <L3top> meiji11: then you typed wrong.
[03:33] <FloodBot1> Scrivener: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:34] <Scrivener> Now I'll grab and paste the output.
[03:34] <Scrivener> Of that command.
[03:34] <mindbender1> can someone offer an advice
[03:34] <L3top> mindbender1: you should also give me the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[03:34] <Scrivener> Ah, nevermind.
[03:34] <Scrivener> Also small. Here it is: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF110 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti] [10de:1200] (rev a1)
[03:34] <jga75> Can anyone give me advice about ubiquiti access points?
[03:34] <meiji11> L3top: doesn't seem that I did. I typed the command without the grep pipe, and it gave me a bunch of lines, none of which contain 'candid' apparently
[03:34] <jga75> Don't know if there is a room for ubiquiti
[03:35] <dr_willis> !alia | jga75
[03:35] <dr_willis> !alis | jga75
[03:35] <mindbender1> L3top: 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Wrestler [Radeon HD 6320] [1002:9806]
[03:35] <L3top> meiji11:  -i after the grep
[03:35] <L3top> meiji11: I am looking for Candidate
[03:36] <meiji11>  L3top: right, it was "apt-cache policy | grep -i candid", right? I typed precisely that.
[03:36] <jga75> thanks drr_willis
[03:36] <L3top> mindbender1: you should work just fine with fglrx
[03:37] <L3top> meiji11: sorry... no... totally wrong... my bad... the paste did not happen. One second
[03:37] <mindbender1> L3top: you mean the other driver without the post-release updates?
[03:39] <L3top> meiji11: again... sorry for the typo, and then blaming you. Please give me: apt-cache policy xorg-video-abi-10 | grep -i candid
[03:39] <meiji11> L3top: Candidate: (none)
[03:39] <mindbender1> L3top: thanks the other one installed just fine
[03:39] <L3top> mindbender1: you are referring to the catylist driver...  I do not expect it makes a whole heck of a lot of difference
[03:39] <mindbender1> going for a reboot
[03:40] <L3top> ok
[03:40] <AndChat223345> I have a little problem about priviledge.Provided I have two linux distros installed on one pc, a file created and owned by a user in linux A,would the permissions and ownership of that file 'transfered' to the user in linux B that shared the same uid with the oringinal user in linux A?  hope I didn't post question in wrong place..
[03:40] <L3top> !info xorg-video-abi-10
[03:41] <L3top> uhhh... that's weird... let me look at your sources again meiji11
[03:41] <oxbat> 什么
[03:42] <JVBV> Hello
[03:42] <meiji11> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060143
[03:42] <jrdnn> AndChat223345 The permissions would be based on the mountpoint
[03:42] <jrdnn> JVBV: Hi
[03:43] <Scrivener_> Alright, so I got it operational.
[03:43] <JVBV> Does anyone have experience with making USR OEM 2891 Internal modems work under 10.04? According to the readme I need to compile a kernel module for it, which fails horribly (many errors).
[03:43] <Scrivener_> What I was trying to do was "apply" twinview settings after changing them in nvidia-servre.
[03:44] <L3top> lol... I still had it... your sources aren't the problem as near as I can tell meiji11... however... I do not understand what is calling that package, which does not exist in 1204... nor does that nvidia package exist in earlier repos... so... I am a bit mystified.
[03:44] <Scrivener_> I just used the "save to xorg.conf" option and then restarted the X server.
[03:44] <oxbat> what
[03:44] <oxbat> what's this
[03:44] <meiji11> L3top: I see. weird.
[03:44] <oxbat> this
[03:44] <Scrivener_> Well, it displayed blackness aside from a wonky purple bar atop the second monitor, so I rebooted the computer.
[03:44] <Scrivener_> Lo and behold, I now have a working second monitor.
[03:44] <Scrivener_> Weird.
[03:47] <L3top> meiji11: I don't really know how to advise you... apt-cache depends/rdepends does not reveal this as a pre-requisite nor a post-requisite. I need to push you to someone who understands this error... as it strikes me  as wizardry... and I cannot fight wizards. They creep me out.
[03:47] <omido> Hi. noob here. i have some questions about Java. which package should someone install to enable java? openJDK 6 or 7 (and/or Iced Tea web?) . what about Oracle(sun)Java?
[03:47] <anonymous_> hello bro
[03:47] <meiji11> L3top: ok, thanks for your help.
[03:48] <dr_willis> omido: depends on your java needs.
[03:49] <dr_willis> !java | omido
[03:49] <L3top> omido: sun (oracle now) java is no longer available in repos due to the awesome licensing because of the takeover... most things will run in OS java, but some will not. The long answer is to recommend you DL from Oracle... but there is a PPA with a deb package which makes it... much much easier.
[03:49] <anonymous_> hoho.....
[03:50] <anonymous_> wake up nero...
[03:50] <L3top> neo
[03:50] <anonymous_> the matrix has you
[03:50] <L3top> anonymous_: this is not a chat room. Do you have an ubuntu support queston?
[03:50] <meiji11> L3top: the graphical login does come up.. it's unity that seems to hang.
[03:51] <AndChat223345> jrdnn:urr... That said, it would bypass the permission config if I mount a filesystem to a folder which i have high priviledge ,even though that file was created and owned by someone in another linux system?
[03:51] <Nom-> Is it generally recommended to have /boot on a non-LVM partition these days?
[03:51] <jrdnn> AndChat223345 That's how rescue CDs work
[03:51] <Nom-> Or is Grub/etc fine with LVM?
[03:51] <L3top> meiji11: that is because it is 3d... which will be hideously broken if you are trying to use the current drivers on that hardware. I am very sorry, but you MUST use the nvidia 173 driver.
[03:52] <meiji11> L3top: what if I drop down to unity 2d?
[03:52] <meiji11> L3top: or some other window manager
[03:52] <L3top> meiji11: It will only be sometimes broken
[03:52] <omido> Thankyou dr_willis  and L3top  can you please give me the link to ubuntu package of Oracle Java? I just moved from openSUSE to ubuntu and i was using the sun java in opensuse which was in their repos. also adobe reader was there but i cannot find in ubuntu
[03:53] <L3top> meiji11: You will be able to do almost ANYTHING you want on 173... you will not be able to do MOST of what you want on current. You are lucky to have basic graphics.
[03:53] <Jagst3r15> meiji11 whats your processor?
[03:53] <meiji11> L3top: ok then. I'll make do with what I can get for now, I guess.
[03:53] <meiji11> Jagst3r15: let me check.
[03:54] <AndChat223345> jrdnn:Get it,thx.  this is funny...
[03:54] <jrdnn> AndChat223345 You're welcome :)
[03:54] <L3top> meiji11: honestly... you should get to the bottom of what the conflict is. It should NOT exist.
[03:55] <mindbender1> L3top: actually why I started looking for drivers is because I'm getting better perf with my battery on windows almost 3 hours difference and I guess that's because ubuntu is always spinning my fan
[03:55] <L3top> omido: ppas are EXPLICITLY not supported... but http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.com/2012/05/install-oracle-java-7-in-xubuntu-1204.html  should get you there.
[03:55] <meiji11> L3top: right, I know. I'm hoping someone will fix the broken package and the problem will resolve itself.
[03:55] <L3top> !ppa | omido
[03:55] <meiji11> Jagst3r15: I'm not sure what the processor is. 'i686.' Yep, informative.
[03:56] <Jagst3r15> its not on the front of ur comp?
[03:56] <battlehands> I am in terminal.  After executing some python commands, my terminal starts displaying "funky characters" when I try to type.  I ctrl+d and I can begin typing letters again, but I cannot get back to my default command line.  This is a repeating problem.  Please advise.
[03:56] <bazhang> omido, acroread is in partner repo now
[03:56] <L3top> mindbender1: there are issues... and.. some fixes... for battery issues. I am not a wealth of knowledge on the subject.
[03:56] <bazhang> !partner | omido
[03:56] <jrdnn> battlehands type exit hit enter and relogin that's what I do when my terminal is messed up sometimes
[03:56] <MadeTheLeap> Has anyone here experienced that "cable unplugged" error for a wired network connection?
[03:57] <mindbender1> L3top: any directions will be taken well.. what do you suggest
[03:57] <dr_willis> !java | omido
[03:58] <meiji11> man, is this screwy. the cursor is arbitrarily flying into corners, without my touching the trackpad..
[03:58] <battlehands> jrdnn, I'm looking for a fix that doesnt require me to exit terminal
[03:58] <jrdnn> battlehands  "clear" maybe?
[03:59] <MadeTheLeap> Has anyone upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04?
[03:59] <ejv> battlehands: type `reset`
[03:59] <L3top> mindbender1: my suggestions are not particularly good or well receiived in this channel, and involve google. Please restate your battery issue again for the main channel, and I am sure someone more aware will address it.
[03:59] <ejv> should do the trick
[03:59] <dr_willis> MadeTheLeap:  its possible.  do yiu have a more specific question?
[04:00] <dorsk> anyone awake?
[04:00] <dr_willis> ZZZzzz...
[04:01] <MadeTheLeap> dr_willis: I did the 11.10 to 12.04 upgrade and my NIC stopped working.  I got an error message "cable unplugged" error for a wired network connection.  Any ideas how to fix it?
[04:01] <L3top> meiji11: You should expect all manner of chaotic behavior on that driver. your HW is EXPLICITLY not supported. They want a unified driver. Your HW cannot be made to work, so they produce a driver specifically for you. You need to work out the issue preventing you from installing it... not try to duct tape a driver KNOWN to be incompatable.
[04:01] <dr_willis> MadeTheLeap:  nope.. other then say check the cable.. make sure the dog dident chew it.
[04:02] <MadeTheLeap> dr_willis:  Cable's totally fine.  NIC is fine.  It totally worked in 11.10 and during the upgrade.
[04:02] <zykotick9> MadeTheLeap: does your NIC have a light, is it on?
[04:02] <dr_willis> MadeTheLeap:  check tghe forums and askubuntu.com also would be a good starting point
[04:02] <eghost> join #serpentstongue
[04:02] <dorsk> If i were to add a windows installation alongside my ubuntu, how would I proceed? I'm scared I might just screw up grub if I pop the windows disc and install. Anyone know?
[04:02] <omido> Thank you guys
[04:03] <MadeTheLeap> dr_willis:  I've spent the past week going through dozens of sites including posting my own question on Ubuntu, to no avail.
[04:03] <dr_willis> dorsk:  learn to reinstall grub.. is a handy skill. ;)
[04:03] <zykotick9> !grub | dorsk
[04:03] <mindbender1> I'm getting poor battery performance when compared to Windows and my fan is always on and loud. Not comparable to how the machine works on windows. How can I optimize the my battery performance and stop the constant loud noise of the fan. Help needed
[04:03] <dr_willis> dorsk:  installing grub to the Mbr of a spare flash drive as a emergancy boot the system tool... is also usefull.
[04:03] <MadeTheLeap> dorsk:  There is a rescue CD out there (Linux based).  It worked well for me.
[04:04] <dorsk> will i need the rescue CD to access my ubuntu partition after having installed Windows?
[04:04] <dr_willis> dorsk:  theres a live cd with the boot-repair tool also you can get (linked in the !fixgrub wiki page) thats handy
[04:04] <dr_willis> dorsk:  install windows, fix grub.. boot to the grub menu like you normally do..
[04:05] <dr_willis> rerun update-grub so the system sees/adds the windows install to the grub menu..
[04:05] <dorsk> alright
[04:05] <dorsk> thanks for your help
[04:05] <dorsk> I guess it's a good idea to create a NTFS partition beforehand?
[04:06] <dorsk> as in, before running the windows installer
[04:07] <guest-Awrs3C> please. i'm in big trouble. someone help me. i wasn't doing anything and now ubuntu wont let me log into my account anymore. guest works fine but my account wont sign in. i can't boot into safe mode because it asks for a rot password and my root password doesn't work anymore. if only i could recover my files on my home dir. dude, i can't lose those files. please..
[04:07] <Jagst3r15> will ubuntu tv be avaible on desktop in some fashion?
[04:07] <guest-Awrs3C> please, i'm begging..
[04:08] <bazhang> Jagst3r15, try #ubuntu-tv
[04:08] <Jagst3r15> ty sorry didnt know that was there
[04:08] <guest-Awrs3C> i wsn't doing anything. at first it would prompt me for a password and now my account just tries to login and theres a black screen for a second and then it just goes back to the login screen.
[04:08] <bazhang> guest-Awrs3C, there is no root password
[04:09] <guest-Awrs3C> my account wont login.
[04:09] <aithox> hi, help me about app installation problem , here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060156/
[04:09] <guest-Awrs3C> i've lost my files.
[04:09] <L3top> guest-Awrs3C: that sounds... sort of like... you done been rooted. If you cannot login under your root account. That is sort of... a bad sign.
[04:09] <guest-Awrs3C> my life is on this computer.
[04:09] <guest-Awrs3C> i trust ubuntu.
[04:09] <bazhang> guest-Awrs3C, please stop with the enter key
[04:09] <guest-Awrs3C> is there a way to recover my files as guest?
[04:10] <dorsk> should be doable with a live-cd as long as your home folder isnt encrypted, no?
[04:10] <guest-Awrs3C> i have ubuntu on a cd. do you mean like a fresh install?
[04:11] <L3top> guest-Awrs3C: ubuntu is not the culprit. Poor security practice is... You could likely chroot in from a live disk and create another admin account but... if root is gone... I would just login to live disk and transfer files off.
[04:11] <dorsk> boot from live-cd, mount the drive and backup the files
[04:11] <dorsk> should work, unless whoever has root access decided to encrypt your drive
[04:12] <mindbender1> I seem to be the only one experiencing this problem of battery performance and loud constant fan
[04:12] <L3top> ^ this
[04:13] <dr_willis> mindbender1:  poor power management was a big issus in 11.10  - it got improved/fixed for a lot of machines in 12.04 - but theres problem machines out there.
[04:13] <L3top> mindbender1:  there are SO many different issues... check acpi settings, and bios settings. For most 1204 has had greatly improved battery performance.
[04:14] <dr_willis> check the forums and askubuntu.com for your exact make/model machine. may  be some known tweaks to get it working right or better
[04:14] <mindbender1> can i get a link to something to read?
[04:15] <aithox> hello, can u help me with software installation errors.
[04:16] <bazhang> aithox, what version of ubuntu, installing what software and from where, what were the errors
[04:17] <aithox> 12.04 i'm trying to install php5
[04:17] <aithox> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060156/
[04:17] <bazhang> aithox, whats the exact package name
[04:17] <aithox> php5
[04:17] <bazhang> !info php5
[04:17] <bazhang> aithox, and whats the error
[04:19] <aithox> bazhang: after doing sudo apt-get install php5 i got that error
[04:19] <aithox> as the links above
[04:19] <root> good morning
[04:19] <bazhang> aithox, did you update your system prior to this
[04:19] <aithox> yeah i did..
[04:20] <aithox> i can install everything.. except i have that errors
[04:20] <aithox> how can i clear that..?
[04:20] <usr13> aithox: sudo apt-get -f install php5
[04:20] <thothstriangle> any ideas what would cause a terminal freeze
[04:21] <sacarlson> aithox: can you try install libapache2-mod-php5filter ?
[04:21] <guest-q70yHn> i can't figure out how to mount from a live disk and create a back up. all i need is one file. everything is in that file. all of my data is gone if i can't recover it. my box isn't rooted. first it froze and then terminal promoted asking me to input my password and it didn't work.then at first guest would work and i could change my password, it reconized it but i changed to auto login and now it just tries to login and goes
[04:21] <guest-q70yHn>  back to the login screen.
[04:21] <aithox> usr13: not fine..
[04:21] <guest-q70yHn> i'm not rooted.
[04:22] <dr_willis> guest-q70yHn:  at the login screen,.. you can try to get to the console via alt-ctrl-f1 and see if you can login at the console..
[04:22] <lucia> i have a problem with ubuntu ver.10.20
[04:22] <dr_willis> if that works.. then its some odd issue with your X settings.
[04:23] <guest-q70yHn> i can't. i can't even login to safe mode.
[04:23] <guest-q70yHn> i tried to reset the password from safe mode. root password wont work.
[04:23] <dr_willis> guess you boot a live cd. mount the installed system, and access it as root from the live cd.
[04:23] <usr13> guest-q70yHn: What do you mean root password won't work?  Did you enable the root account?
[04:24] <guest-q70yHn> how do i do that as guest?
[04:24] <usr13> guest-q70yHn: How do you do what?
[04:24] <dr_willis> lucia whats the issue and whats the exact version?  10.20 is not a ubuntu version
[04:24] <guest-q70yHn> enable root account? sudo su?
[04:24] <guest-q70yHn> doesn't work.
[04:24] <usr13> guest-q70yHn: Use sudo
[04:24] <guest-q70yHn> i had before.
[04:24] <guest-q70yHn> the password doesn't work.
[04:24] <aithox> it is not ok i still have this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060156/
[04:24] <dr_willis> live cd has no sudo password set.
[04:25] <samkan> Hi, I just installed inkscape in fresh machine, core i7, but If i do some operation inkscape takes 100% cpu
[04:25] <iHarp> It is dangerous to change the non-exec status of a directory, correct?
[04:26] <guest-q70yHn> i don't understand how this could have happened.
[04:26] <dr_willis> iHarp:  if a directory is not executable you wont be able to view its contents, i belive...
[04:26] <usr13> guest-q70yHn: You are having a communication problem.
[04:26] <guest-q70yHn> i have an ubuntu disk, is that what you mean by live disk?
[04:26] <dr_willis> guest-q70yHn:  given what youve been going on about by root passwords and sudo su and stuff.. its hard for us to guess..
[04:26] <usr13> guest-q70yHn: Yes live CD would be the standard Ubuntu install CD.
[04:26] <dr_willis> guest-q70yHn:  boot  the ubuntu cd..  come back to irc from it.. so we can try to help walkj you through it.
[04:27] <samkan> my inkscape takes 100% cpu
[04:27] <samkan> any solution?
[04:27] <iHarp> dr_willis: Do you still modify that on fstab?
[04:27] <guest-q70yHn> okay. so boot from the disk as if i'm trying it out?
[04:27] <usr13> guest-q70yHn: Yes
[04:27] <guest-q70yHn> brb
[04:27] <dr_willis> iHarp:  im not sure what you are doing...
[04:28] <iHarp> trying to change my /tmp folder to nonexec. Apparently there is a security hole there from what I've been reading
[04:29] <dr_willis> iHarp:  havent heard mention of it..
[04:29] <dr_willis> iHarp:  this a home pc/lan: or some web  server work/business machine?
[04:30] <iHarp> dr_willis: home
[04:30] <dr_willis> iHarp:  then i doubt if its going to be an issue or worth  the errort to change it.
[04:31] <iHarp> Yeah, it's not high priority. I'm just researching and applying small details. if it's not worth it then I'll just avoid it
[04:31] <dr_willis> and setting a folders executable bit or unsetting it.. is differnt then mounting a device with the 'noexec' flag.... very differnt
[04:34] <iHarp> well, thanks for the bit. Have a good night DR
[04:35] <mindbender1> this while linux thing looks like a joke to me attimes especially when you can't find documentation for something that's meant to be open source. I can assure you that if the progress of these so called core devs are documented somewhere so that the next generation can follow there will be much progress with ubuntu or linux as a whole
[04:35] <mindbender1> *whole
[04:35] <lifneg> hello
[04:35] <lifneg> everyone
[04:36] <dr_willis> open source = the souurce is there and open.. its the  actual code thats the  'defacto' documentation.
[04:36] <dr_willis> hello lifneg
[04:37] <Jagst3r15> mindbender1 dont hate
[04:37] <lifneg> it's the first i play IRC
[04:37] <mindbender1> Jagst3r15: not at all
[04:37] <Jagst3r15> :)
[04:38] <lifneg> where are u ,im in china
[04:38] <mindbender1> why would I.. but if you have suffered at the hands of these devs like I have then you would understand the statement
[04:38] <dr_willis> this channel is world wide lifneg . for ubuntu support. if you want general chit-chat  try the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[04:38] <Jagst3r15> how have u suffered ?
[04:39]  * dr_willis thinks suffering from devs is also a better topic for the Ot channel..
[04:40] <mindbender1> my modem, my battery, my fan, my important work lost do to crashes...etc
[04:40] <Jagst3r15> i wanna hear the suffering story though :)
[04:40] <bazhang> !ot | Jagst3r15
[04:40] <mindbender1> there's just not enouhg documentation to follow through on these things
[04:40] <bazhang> !cn | lifneg
[04:42] <dr_willis> So the HW makers need to providfe better support/specs/docs to the linux devs....
[04:47] <L3top> ^this
[04:50] <Stretch> hello all
[04:50] <dr_willis> jello
[04:51] <Stretch> sounds tasty i love jello
[04:51] <dr_willis> Untill you learn  whats in it.. ;P  You  got a ubuntu support issue?
[04:51] <Stretch> anyway i was hoping i could get some help
[04:52] <aithox> hi how can i remove software cache , and reinstall ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060156/
[04:52] <Stretch> hopefully you can take it easy on me, I've been wanting to switch for awhile and have finally taken the plunge but having some minor issues right off the bat
[04:53] <Stretch> meaning switch from windows to linux
[04:53] <sahil__> anyone here working on pad.ma? having some doubts
[04:54] <dr_willis> aithox:  you mean clean the apt cache? apt-get clean, and  apt-get auto remove, clear out the cache and removes unneeded packages.
[04:54] <dr_willis> oops.. apt-get autoremove
[04:54] <Stretch> i have searched all over the web and cant seem to get this figured out, but i cant get the wireless to work on the laptop i just installed it on
[04:54] <init[dot]d> aithox, sudo apt-get purge php5
[04:55] <dr_willis> Stretch:  it will depen on the exact chipset in the laptop.
[04:55] <Stretch> gateway mx6450
[04:56] <Stretch> i plugged it into the router and internet works fine, then i did addictional drivers hoping it would fix the issue on its own but no luck
[04:56] <dr_willis> Stretch:  best $8 i spent was on a usb wifi dongle that has full linux support out ofthe box. :) makes it  easy to plug into a problem laptop so i can update/upgrade it. and hopefully use the addational-drivers tool to install any needed 3rd party wifi packages needed
[04:57] <dr_willis> Stretch:  you did update/upgrade the whole system yet?  the fact you can go wired - makes life a lot easier
[04:57] <Stretch> im not even sure where to go to update/upgrade
[04:57] <dr_willis> and its the chipset of the wifi card thats the imporntant bit. :) not the actual make of the laptop
[04:57] <dr_willis> Stretch:  via terminal 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[04:57] <Geoffrey2> I installed 12.04 on my laptop using a Wubi install...can I access the data files a saved while in Ubuntu from the Windows OS?
[04:58] <dr_willis> or use the software center
[04:58] <aithox> init[dot]d: sorry, i just checked it even it show that errors it is installed , i've apache working on my system, but how can i clear that errors message.?
[04:58] <abe_> siang
[04:58] <Stretch> should i do both update and upgrade
[04:58] <init[dot]d> aithox, you will have to remove php5
[04:58] <dr_willis> Stretch:  yes.. thats why i gave both commands. ;)
[04:58] <dr_willis> update - updates the LIST of packages to upgrade
[04:58] <abe_> how to install camfrog in ubuntu 12.04
[04:58] <abe_> ???
[04:58] <init[dot]d> have you tried dpkg --reconfigure php5
[04:58] <Kimura_> Hi. I have a few questions, but I don't want to be led on another wild goose chase (already had too many of those). Who are the official staff in this channel?
[04:59] <smw> Kimura_, don't ask for official staff
[04:59] <init[dot]d> Kimura_, noone is we are all volunteers
[04:59] <Kimura_> okay
[04:59] <Stretch> thanks dr. i'm sure i will see you around, i will have to wait till tomorrow to do the update/upgrade
[04:59] <smw> Kimura_, just ask the question
[05:00] <init[dot]d> dr_willis, do you work with git
[05:00] <Kimura_> Nevermind. I've already dealt with too many "volunteers". Bye!
[05:00] <init[dot]d> kbai
[05:00] <dr_willis> init[dot]d:  nope. rarely  need to git
[05:00] <init[dot]d> sad panda
[05:00] <abe_> how to instal camfrog in ubuntu 12.04 ???
[05:00] <dr_willis> theres always paid support... ;)
[05:01] <init[dot]d> ikr
[05:01] <init[dot]d> abe_, have you tried apt-cache search camfrog
[05:01] <dr_willis> !info camfrog
[05:01] <dr_willis> abe_:  so assume no one knows what camfrog is...
[05:02] <dr_willis>  if it has a homepage.. it should have some downloads, or install docs..
[05:02] <xiangjianfeng> #ubuntu-cn
[05:02] <snigil> hello all
[05:03] <init[dot]d> hi
[05:06] <Geoffrey2> I recently got a new laptop that came preinstalled with Windows 7...I installed Ubuntu inside Windows 7 using Wubi, letting me dual boot....then I went into Ubuntu, and copied a bunch of data files from the old computer's HD..I'm wondering if I can access any of that information when I boot to Windows instead of Ubuntu, and where I might find the folders?
[05:08] <dr_willis> Geoffrey2:  wubi stores stuff in a special hard drive image file. Im not sure of any way windows can mount that file. perhaps with some of the ext3 exploreer tools out for windows.
[05:09] <dr_willis> the host windows drive IS accessable from wubi in some special location on the / of the system.
[05:09] <dr_willis> so you could boot the wubi install. and copy datga to the windows drive
[05:11] <Geoffrey2> dr_willis, ah, thanks, that'll probably work just as well....
[05:11] <dr_willis> or just use ubuntone account to have stuff stored on the cloud
[05:17] <aithox> on removing php5 i got this errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060201/ how can i completely remove it. eg software cache..?
[05:18] <eliotn> hi
[05:18] <eliotn> how do I mount my ubuntu installation
[05:18] <eliotn> because it installed but it won't mount the ubuntu partition
[05:18] <eliotn> says it can't find it
[05:19] <eliotn> so I can't boot ubuntu D:
[05:19] <rypervenche> SuperLag: bravo
[05:19] <rypervenche> oops
[05:19] <rinzler> on the 11.10 install disk, how can I start a non graphical installer?
[05:19] <nischay> Hi :)
[05:22] <dr_willis> rinzler:  the desktop cd does not have  the text based insttaller. only the alternative installer cd does
[05:23] <rinzler> dr_willis: Thanks!
[05:24] <SecretFire> is it easy to set up a ubuntu based network for a very small company, say 25 employees
[05:24] <dr_willis> i think in the next relase they are talkking about having both be  on all the cds. but not looked at the 12.10 release yet.
[05:24] <dr_willis> shouldent be too hard SecretFire
[05:24] <dr_willis> depends on what work they are doing
[05:24] <init[dot]d> SecretFire, very
[05:25] <SecretFire> there is different levels
[05:25] <rinzler> dr_willis: that would be nice...
[05:25] <SecretFire> for example, the management have more privilidges
[05:25] <dr_willis> one router and  25 pcs :) .. take a a few hrs id guess.. setting up users.. may  be harder depending on the details.
[05:26] <SecretFire> ok got it
[05:26] <SecretFire> thats what i thought it took
[05:26] <dr_willis> dozens of ways you could set things up.. its all in the details..
[05:26] <init[dot]d> ^^
[05:26] <SecretFire> does it have to be a certain type of router
[05:27] <dr_willis> about any router should be able to handle just 25 pcs
[05:27] <SecretFire> ok
[05:27] <dr_willis> you will need a few hubs i imagine. :) unless they are wireless pcs
[05:27] <SecretFire> no they aren't
[05:27] <SecretFire> accer aspire's
[05:27] <dr_willis> saw a 32 port  hub the other day for $5 at a rummage sale. ;p
[05:28] <LearnToTroll> hi
[05:28] <SecretFire> dr_willis : what does the hub do
[05:28] <[deXter]> And here I am, throwing away a 32 port switch because I've no use for it..
[05:28] <dr_willis> lets you plug in more pcs...
[05:28] <dr_willis> most routers for soho use have like 4 ports..
[05:29] <dr_willis> each port to a 4 or higher port  hub/switch to let you put more then 4 into the router.
[05:30] <nandinho_UJS> imagen all people linvins on the peace
[05:30] <dr_willis> a single  hub/switch with 16+ ports would make life easier. :)
[05:30] <SecretFire> i see
[05:30] <dr_willis> may be easie to just put wifi dongles/cards  on the pcs :)
[05:30] <SecretFire> so for 25 pcs ideally i would need a 25+ hub
[05:31] <dr_willis> depends on the office layout.
[05:31] <SecretFire> cisco adapters?
[05:31] <dr_willis> 4,8,16,32    alays a even #.
[05:31] <SecretFire> I see
[05:31] <dr_willis> 2 x 16's would work. :) depends on the router
[05:31] <SecretFire> can you recommend one?
[05:31] <SecretFire> (router)
[05:32] <dr_willis> I only use the standard ones you get at Bestbuy or other stores...
[05:32] <dr_willis> it all depends on your needs and budget.
[05:32] <SecretFire> ok
[05:32] <LearnToTroll> do any of you guys know alot about partitioning?
[05:33] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:  ask a more specific question and see.. most of the people in here know about partioning drives
[05:33] <dr_willis> Gparted live cd. is the tool  ii tend to use for such tasks
[05:33] <LearnToTroll> well i know nothing about partitioning and how to properly do it
[05:34] <LearnToTroll> like if i gave my system specs could someone give me a reasonable partition order
[05:34] <dr_willis> i read of the wikipedia page on disk partioning   may be good starting point so you learn some of the terms.
[05:34] <LearnToTroll> and what type each 1 needs to be like with ext4 ext3 etc.
[05:34] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:  it depens on the task of the pc. and if you are dual booting.
[05:34] <sahil__> anyone here working on pad.ma? having some doubts
[05:35] <qdb> seems brasero cannot import existing files, it thinks disk is closed? how can i check that for sure? i did not close it.
[05:35] <dr_willis> common layout. 4 primary partitions  (windows) (linux /) (linux /home) (swap partition)
[05:35] <init[dot]d> and what is pad.ma?
[05:35] <bazhang> sahil__, how does that relate to ubuntu
[05:35] <LearnToTroll> Well, im doing gaming(runescape) and windows 7 got infected with tons of viruses so i just went ahead and made ubuntu my primary OS
[05:36] <[deXter]> Congrats. :)
[05:36] <sahil__> its an educational site that allows work on videos...not just watchin/uploading,but adding annotations with each frame,location etc...
[05:36] <init[dot]d> obviously sahil_ is a bot or troll
[05:36] <bazhang> sahil__, so no connection to ubuntu support then
[05:36] <init[dot]d> and needs das boot
[05:36] <sahil__> having some trouble with pandora_client
[05:36] <bazhang> init[dot]d, thats uncalled for
[05:36] <sahil__> no i am not ppl!
[05:37] <LearnToTroll> i did just go ahead and throw something together with my partitioning and i did my root(/) with about 50 gb, my swap with 7gb (since i have 3gb of ram) and the rest of the space went to my home/
[05:37] <bazhang> sahil__, so its a pandora issue
[05:37] <LearnToTroll> how does that partition setup sound to you guys?
[05:37] <qdb> seems brasero cannot import existing files, it thinks disk is closed? how can i check that for sure? i did not close it. you can suggest a free windows program
[05:37] <init[dot]d> bazhang, I apologize I will stick to letting you be the one to insult others
[05:38] <bazhang> init[dot]d, please stop.
[05:38] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:  50gb for / is a bit large.. ive rarely managed to go more then 20gb with my / :) but /home is the big data hog normally
[05:38] <[deXter]> LearnToTroll, 50 GB is too much for root, and so is a 7GB swap
[05:38] <sahil__> client side programming is being done by us on ipython ,in ubuntu
[05:38] <sahil__> yes bazhang
[05:39] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:  how big is the hard drive in total?
[05:39] <LearnToTroll> 320.1gb
[05:39] <LearnToTroll> i read somewhere online that your supposed to double up on your swap for how much RAM you have
[05:39] <LearnToTroll> is that true?
[05:39] <[deXter]> LearnToTroll, that was the old traditional rule of thumb
[05:39] <dr_willis> so your / is a bit large.. 20gb would be fine. you may or may not need that much swap. but it wont hurt.
[05:40] <LearnToTroll> oh, that must be the rule for swap not RAM right?
[05:40] <LearnToTroll> cause arent they 2 different things?
[05:40] <[deXter]> LearnToTroll, These days they recommend your swap size to be equal to or maybe 10% more than your RAM size
[05:40] <qdb>  seems my problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/28044/why-is-it-not-possible-to-burn-a-multisession-dvd-using-brasero
[05:40] <dr_willis> swap = ram + a bit more - these days.. to allow you to use the Hibernate/suspend features.
[05:41] <CellTech> How do I sign in?
[05:41] <dr_willis> CellTech:  Huh?
[05:42] <LearnToTroll> Like right now im using Wine to launch some windows programs. Is that a smart idea?
[05:42] <CellTech> I registered my nickname. How do I sign in and verify myself
[05:42] <LearnToTroll> Because im gradually learning the ubuntu OS
[05:42] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:  wine runs windows apps...  if you need them..
[05:42] <dr_willis> !register | CellTech
[05:43] <CellTech> I registered it already. But to sign in.. How do I do that?
[05:43] <qdb> so brasero & ubuntu made a dvd of mine quite waste! if it cannot burn multisession dvds, it should then say about that with big letters )
[05:43] <LearnToTroll> Sorry if im a bit noob, but can you dualboot 2 linux distributions?
[05:44] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:  you can.. but ive rarely had the need to do so.
[05:44] <LearnToTroll> Im kind of wanting to try out Mint Lisa
[05:44] <dr_willis> i wouldent bother with Mint..
[05:44] <LearnToTroll> ahh
[05:44] <LearnToTroll> Isnt it for older computers?
[05:44] <dr_willis> no idea.. i dont bother with mint...
[05:44] <dr_willis> older pcs - i use Lubuntu
[05:44] <dr_willis> !lubuntu
[05:45] <CellTech> Cool. they all say my password is wrong. I think I know what I picked
[05:45] <LearnToTroll> I've got a pretty old windows computer with 120mb of RAM and its running Windows ME what do you recommend putting on that to make it semi-functional again
[05:46] <Sino> kalhmera :-)
[05:46] <Toasty27> lubuntu
[05:46] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:   with that little ram.. id  just set it up as a console only/ssh box. ;)
[05:46] <dr_willis> or find moar ram
[05:47] <LearnToTroll> I'm sorry i have no idea what that is.  Is that like only commands?
[05:47] <LearnToTroll> DOS?
[05:47] <LearnToTroll> haha
[05:47] <dr_willis> 120mb of ram.. is .. err.. tiny.
[05:47] <LearnToTroll> yeah i know
[05:47] <LearnToTroll> i havnt used it in years
[05:47] <Toasty27> Does anyone have experience dual-booting Windows and Ubuntu 12.04 on an EFI system?
[05:47] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:  does it have a network card?
[05:48] <LearnToTroll> No, it has to be hooked up with an ethernet
[05:48] <LearnToTroll> is that what makes it like a laptop where it can be connected wirelessly?
[05:48] <dr_willis> err... a network card.. is ethernet...
[05:48] <LearnToTroll> O
[05:48] <LearnToTroll> Sorry.
[05:48] <LearnToTroll> Yes it does haha.
[05:48] <dr_willis> that low end a box. id try, tinycorelinux,puppylinux, or perhaps lubuntu.
[05:49] <dr_willis> or some console only setup.
[05:49] <LearnToTroll> I've heard of some people using old computers like that with linux for a server
[05:49] <Toasty27> Well
[05:49] <LearnToTroll> Is that a good idea?
[05:49] <dr_willis> 120mb ram - it wont do much serving.
[05:49] <Toasty27> I dunno what kind of services you'd run on it
[05:49] <Toasty27> maybe DHCP
[05:49] <Toasty27> but definitely not routing or anything
[05:49] <LearnToTroll> I honestly don't know what a server does
[05:50] <dr_willis> and if you are lucky its a 100 speed network card
[05:50] <Toasty27> A server serves stuff
[05:50] <Toasty27> :P
[05:50] <LearnToTroll> Is it something that serves web pages?
[05:50] <Toasty27> It can, if it's a web server
[05:50] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:  i doubt if you have much of a need for that low end box then,. other then perhaps to let you ssh into your main box.
[05:50] <Toasty27> or it can serve IP addresses with DHCP
[05:51] <Toasty27> or host a VPN server for remote connections
[05:51] <LearnToTroll> SSH into my main computer? like an extra storage place tht is wireless?
[05:51] <LearnToTroll> and i can just move stuff there and get it from there when i need it?
[05:51] <dr_willis> I have biggeer machines then that.. in the garrage for this week ends rummage sale...
[05:51] <dr_willis> !ssh
[05:51] <Toasty27> !apache
[05:51] <LearnToTroll> I've used SSH on a jailbroken iphone
[05:51] <Like> I love you have a commission
[05:52] <LearnToTroll> but other than that
[05:52] <LearnToTroll> thats it.
[05:52] <bazhang> Like, wrong place for that
[05:52] <Like> Y
[05:52] <Like> Gm
[05:52] <bazhang> !ot | Like
[05:53] <LearnToTroll> I'm lost.
[05:53] <LearnToTroll> What did you say i could maybe do?
[05:53] <LearnToTroll> I just don't want to see it go to waste.
[05:53] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:  use it for command line tools...
[05:54] <dr_willis> or irc. :)
[05:54] <LearnToTroll> I switch to a different computer just to talk??
[05:54] <Toasty27> What processor does it have?
[05:54] <LearnToTroll> I can check
[05:54] <Toasty27> Pentium 2/3 etc
[05:54] <LearnToTroll> but i dont know.
[05:54] <Toasty27> If it's anything older than a Pentium 4, it's probably not worth keeping
[05:55] <dr_willis> its going to be using more electricty then its worth.. ;)
[05:55] <SecretFire> I am having trouble opening a 7z file, do I need to run the command sudo apt-get install 7z?
[05:55] <Toasty27> I started collecting so much old hardware that I had to set a minimum requirement in specs
[05:55] <Toasty27> At least PGA478 socket and DDR ram
[05:55] <dr_willis> SecretFire:  i dont think thats the coorect binary name..  but theres a 7zip package in the repos
[05:55] <dr_willis> !7zip
[05:56] <Toasty27> SecretFire: install pZip
[05:56] <LearnToTroll> Lol, i don't think i could ever learn half of the stuff you guys are talking about
[05:56] <SecretFire> ark didn't work
[05:56] <dr_willis> apt-cache search 7zip      may show it..
[05:56] <LearnToTroll> I hardly know how to use a terminal.
[05:56] <LearnToTroll> besides the sudo apt-get thing
[05:56] <LearnToTroll> what is a good place to learn about Linux more?
[05:56] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:  time to learn then.
[05:56] <SecretFire> pzip?
[05:56] <dr_willis> !terminal
[05:56] <dr_willis> !info p7zip
[05:57] <SecretFire> ok
[05:57] <Toasty27> whoops
[05:57] <Toasty27> forgot the 7 :B
[05:57] <dr_willis> 7zip in linux has no gui tool. :) the standard archive tools will use it. if its installed
[05:57] <SecretFire> yea i noticed that
[05:57] <dr_willis> !info unp
[05:57] <LearnToTroll> I was looking at the software center and there is an ebook on there for like 30 dollars, is that a good place to start?
[05:58] <LearnToTroll> Or is there anything for Free?
[05:58] <SecretFire> has anyone in here gotten OpenMW to run in kubuntu?
[05:58] <bazhang> !manual | LearnToTroll
[05:58] <dr_willis> tons of free docs out there.
[05:58] <bazhang> !rute | LearnToTroll
[05:58] <bazhang> LearnToTroll, start with those
[05:58] <dr_willis> the TLDP site is good for old skool info. ;)
[05:59] <smw> LearnToTroll, http://cli.learncodethehardway.org/book/
[05:59] <dr_willis> half of my linux knowledge is from old old old docs.. i read years ago
[05:59] <smw> LearnToTroll, that is a good primer to using the linux command line
[05:59] <LearnToTroll> I tried downloading and i got this popup
[05:59] <Toasty27> most of my linux knowledge is just from researching how to complete specific tasks
[05:59] <LearnToTroll> Try saving to a different location.
[05:59] <Like> I was it was what is that
[05:59] <LearnToTroll> Try saving to a different location.
[06:00] <LearnToTroll> grr its not putting it all in the message
[06:00] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:   so dave it to  differnt location.. ;)
[06:00] <dr_willis> save..
[06:00] <Toasty27> dr_willis: Know anything about dual-booting with EFI?
[06:00] <dr_willis> we dont know your setup.. so dont know the context of the message
[06:00] <LearnToTroll> its not giving me any save as box
[06:00] <SecretFire> ark did not work again  Im getting this : Failed to locate program 7z in PATH.
[06:01] <smw> dr_willis, although I did not learn from it originally, http://cli.learncodethehardway.org/book/ taught me something. (specifically pushd popd)
[06:01] <LearnToTroll> or option to do that
[06:01] <dr_willis> I dont have any efi/mac or other weird hardware Toasty27
[06:01] <LearnToTroll> i click on download now and it just pops up that message
[06:01] <Toasty27> ASUS N53SV laptop, trying to get 12.04 64-bit and Windows 7 64 bit installed
[06:01] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[06:01] <SecretFire> Toasty27 : side by side?
[06:01] <dr_willis> smw:  :) Oreialys Using Bash book. is a must have. ;)
[06:01] <ShapeShifter499> I have questions about chroot..... chroot is like the sandbox on a Apple iOS device right?  or am I thinking about it wrong?
[06:01] <Toasty27> SecretFire: Yes
[06:01] <SecretFire> I had a setup like that
[06:01] <smw> dr_willis, :-)
[06:01] <SecretFire> I hate windows though
[06:02] <Toasty27> I do too. :P
[06:02] <Toasty27> But I need it for a few things, unfortunately
[06:02] <smw> dr_willis, I suggest taking a look at lthw. I read it to evaluate giving out to others, and I was impressed
[06:02] <SecretFire> yea
[06:02] <Toasty27> I could just go back to MBR, but I'd rather try getting GPT and EFI working
[06:02] <SecretFire> is it possible to do a 3 way side by side with mac, win 7, and ubuntu
[06:02] <LearnToTroll> Willis, it just pops up a message save in a different location it doesnt even give me a windows explorer looking box to choose where to download it
[06:02] <Toasty27> Yes
[06:02] <ShapeShifter499> I'm just wondering because I tried to chroot ubuntu on my jailbroken iphone and found out some stuff
[06:02] <smw> dr_willis, didn't learn much, but it taught me the proper usage of pushd and popd which before reading, I thought were stupid commands :-)
[06:02] <Toasty27> I did it with a Gigabyte mobo
[06:03] <SecretFire> mobo?
[06:03] <Toasty27> motherboard
[06:03] <SecretFire> oh
[06:03] <Toasty27> hackintosh. :P
[06:03] <SecretFire> Ive heard of that
[06:03] <SecretFire> hackintosh
[06:03] <bazhang> !ot | SecretFire Toasty27
[06:03] <Toasty27> First time I did it, it took me three days. But it was a successful triple boot setup with vanilla OSX
[06:03] <Toasty27> no hackls
[06:03] <Toasty27> hacks*
[06:04] <Toasty27> whoops sorry
[06:04] <bazhang> Toasty27, thats enough
[06:04] <SecretFire> understood
[06:05] <mi3> hello!
[06:06] <ShapeShifter499> *sigh*  why do most of my questions to linux channels go unanswered
[06:06] <mi3> can I get a screenshot of the font appearance window ? I have messed up my font settings, and I would like to refer to a screenshot to bring it back to default. Thanks in advance.
[06:06] <mi3> ShapeShifter499: really ?
[06:07] <ShapeShifter499> I'll repost......... I have questions about chroot..... chroot is like the sandbox on a Apple iOS device right?  or am I thinking about it wrong?
[06:07] <LearnToTroll> Somebody said yes to your question shape
[06:07] <LearnToTroll> I seen it a while ago.
[06:08] <mi3> LearnToTroll: hello, which version of ubuntu do you use ?
[06:08] <ShapeShifter499> LearnToTroll, well my connection did drop out a minute after I posted, I could have missed it
[06:09] <ShapeShifter499> ok with that... since my device is running a Mac OS X like kernel (I think?)  it wouldn't be possible to chroot ubuntu arm on there unless I recompiled all of ubuntu arm right?
[06:09] <urlwolf> is there any difference in font rendering between ubuntu and sabayon? I have the exact same settings in kde > fonts on both, buth ubuntu looks better
[06:11] <Kartagis> is it normal that there is no alt-tab when cairo-dock is running?
[06:11] <dr_willis> alt tab woud  be a feature of the window manager, not the dock i imagine
[06:12] <dr_willis> compiz has differnt plugins to handle alt-tabbing that an be disabled/set to differnt ways of doing  things.
[06:12] <Jordan_U> ShapeShifter499: You can't chroot from GNU/Linux to OSX or iOS.
[06:13] <dr_willis> ccsm tool can tweak the compiz settings
[06:13] <BEAR44> Hello
[06:13] <mi3> can I get a screenshot of the font appearance window ? I have messed up my font settings, and I would like to refer to a screenshot to bring it back to default. Thanks in advance.
[06:14] <BEAR44> Can you see what I'm typing
[06:14] <BEAR44> ?
[06:14] <nischay> Hi :) I am Nischay from India I need a tool which indicate the capslock key status i am using ubuntu 12.04 on dell inspirion laptop
[06:14] <dr_willis> BEAR44:  yes.
[06:15] <BEAR44> This is my first time using IRC.  I appreciate the help.  I just have not been getting any resonses
[06:15] <BEAR44> *responses
[06:15] <urlwolf> what is ubuntu doing different than other distros in terms of font rendering?
[06:15] <dr_willis> nischay:  theres some indicator-applets ive seen listed at the askubuntu.com site  that have that feature. show an icon in the top panel with the status of the special keys
[06:15] <sniggles> when I try to install 12.04: I get to the welcome screen. I tried the 1st and 2nd options. For both, the green light on the cd drive blinks for a while and then quits. I think it has something to do with my Nvidia card?
[06:17] <dr_willis> sniggles:  1st/second?  You mean the 'Install, or Try Ubuntu' options?
[06:18] <sniggles> yes both
[06:18] <dr_willis> BEAR44: ask an actual support question and see who responds. ;)
[06:19] <dr_willis> X is allreayd running whenit asks those questions.. so i dont thinkits  an nvidia card issue. You could try the nomodeset option anyway if you wanted to.
[06:19] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[06:20] <sniggles> plz help pangolin wont install
[06:20] <sti> hi guys
[06:20] <__Tom> Hi
[06:20] <init[dot]d> sniggles, wazzup
[06:21] <sti> whats the difference of YLMF OS and Windows?
[06:21] <sniggles> the cursor just stays there blinking on the screen adn the disk drive quits after 2 minutes or so
[06:21] <nischay> i am using ubuntu 12.04 form its intial release now i am bored with its looks is there is any way to change themes colors and icons
[06:21] <sniggles> i waited 35 minutes for something to happen
[06:22] <dr_willis> !theme
[06:22] <dr_willis> sniggles:  you did verify the md5 of the iso file you downloaded? could be a bad disk.
[06:22] <chamunks> Is there any point in using the logitech c920 over the c910 http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/logitech-logitech-hd-pro-webcam-c920-960-000765/10189777.aspx?path=e90c1a4cafdd27b7466a91356bf89790en02
[06:23] <sti> whats the difference of YLMF OS and Windows?
[06:23] <__Tom> chamunks, no there is not
[06:23] <sniggles> ok, I did the md5sum
[06:23] <sti> whats the difference of YLMF OS and Windows?
[06:23] <sniggles> it works
[06:23] <chamunks> The c920 supports cam based h264 encoding but apparently unless your in windows running the logitech software
[06:23] <dr_willis> sti:  how is that related to 'Ubuntu support"
[06:23] <chamunks> but apparently the c910 doesnt
[06:23] <jaho> salut a y des francais ici ??
[06:23] <blackshirt> ylmf was linux
[06:23] <sti> :)
[06:23] <chamunks> __Tom, what makes you say that?
[06:23] <sti> i thought you would know :)
[06:24] <sniggles> can I paste terminal output?
[06:24] <mi3> can I get a screenshot of the font appearance window ? I have messed up my font settings, and I would like to refer to a screenshot to bring it back to default. Thanks in advance.
[06:24] <bazhang> sniggles, to pastebin
[06:24] <bazhang> chamunks, how is that relate d to ubuntu support
[06:24] <sniggles> drew@debian:~$ md5sum D
[06:24] <sniggles> Desktop/   Documents/ Downloads/
[06:24] <sniggles> drew@debian:~$ md5sum Downloads/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[06:24] <sniggles> 128f0c16f4734c420b0185a492d92e52  Downloads/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[06:24] <sniggles> drew@debian:~$ md5sum /dev/dvd
[06:24] <sniggles> md5sum: /dev/dvd: Input/output error
[06:24] <FloodBot1> sniggles: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:24] <chamunks> bazhang, because i'm not using window
[06:24] <dr_willis> sniggles:  it may be /dev/sr0
[06:24] <chamunks> and I wand to use this on linux
[06:24] <tkkaisla> why when i editing file in ubuntu makes allways second file with ~ character end of filename?
[06:24] <sniggles> u said paste
[06:25] <bazhang> sniggles, pastebin
[06:25] <sti> trigo bayot!
[06:25] <dr_willis> tkkaisla:  the editor has a 'make backups' option enabled
[06:25] <sniggles> where is my paste bin
[06:25] <nischay> thanx :)
[06:25] <chamunks> bazhang,  If you read the message i posted about not being in windows for the logitech software i figured it would have alluded to that.
[06:25] <__Tom> chamunks, there just is not much of a difference in quality.  Except one is more expensice
[06:25] <sti> trigo bayot!
[06:25] <sniggles> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060256/
[06:25] <bazhang> chamunks, thats hardware. nothing to do with ubuntu support  try ##hardware
[06:25] <sniggles> ok sruy
[06:26] <chamunks> bazhang, well actually if the software supports handling the h264 output of the camera than I'm happy
[06:26] <sniggles> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060258/
[06:26] <chamunks> Otherwise its a hardware thing and clearly there is no discernable difference except I dont care if i get another microphone.
[06:26] <mi3> gvgdsfgsdfd
[06:26] <init[dot]d> sadfsadf
[06:26] <init[dot]d> :P
[06:26] <chamunks> bazhang, Otherwise its a hardware thing and clearly there is no discernable difference except I dont care if i get another microphone.
[06:26] <bazhang> mi3, init[dot]d not here
[06:27] <mi3> bazhang: yeah ok.
[06:27] <init[dot]d> bazhang, you love playin mommy huh
[06:27] <tkkaisla> tyhanks dr_willis
[06:27] <tkkaisla> thanks*
[06:27] <chamunks> anyone who is not making assumptions and telling me to buzz off who could possibly tell me if having the camera do the video processing before ubuntu sees it is even worth it?
[06:28] <dr_willis> chamunks:  do you evne know if the cams are supported by linux?
[06:28] <dr_willis> many web cams dont work at all in linux
[06:28] <chamunks> dr_willis, apparently it does.
[06:28] <chamunks> according to some searching
[06:28] <chamunks> I wasnt born yesterday.
[06:28] <chamunks> sorry
[06:28] <dr_willis> go with the one thats older and been out longer.. it should have better support
[06:29] <chamunks> dr_willis, well im kind of privy to the concept of letting the cam do the encoding but if ubuntu just ignores it than its a clear choice.
[06:29] <dr_willis> i doubt if thats more then a marketing gimmic anyway..
[06:30] <nocturnal_> why does xinit start while startx goes to a black screen?
[06:31] <chamunks> dr_willis, well the specs say it has an encoding chip in it.  So its streaming it from the cam pre processed thats not much of a gimmic if ubuntu handles it correctly it should theoretically reduce alot of work post processing if doing video captures.
[06:32] <chamunks> Could anyone point me in a direction forum wise where I could maybe post the question to get a more difinitive answer?
[06:32] <chamunks> Most effectively.
[06:33] <dr_willis> the Video4Linux site/bords.. woul dbe my guess..
[06:33] <ranched> chamunks what do you need help with
[06:33] <chamunks> ranched, im looking to find out if theres a point in me looking to buy the logitech c920 over the c910
[06:34] <chamunks> ranched, my reasoning is the c920 has been stated to have a h264 encoding chip in the cam thus outsourcing the encodeing to the camera.
[06:34] <bkerensa> chamunks: We do not offer advice on purchasing electronics here.
[06:35] <chamunks> ranched, The c910 does not.  The issue is that if ubuntu cant / wont accept the stream from the camera like the windows variant of the logitech
[06:35] <chamunks> bkerensa, i'm not asking about... if you dont know what youre talking about why are you talking.
[06:35] <ranched> chamunks: not of the chips in a device like that will come close to x264 from ffmpeg.
[06:35] <rymate1234> Okk guys
[06:35] <bkerensa> !offtopic | chamunks
[06:35] <chamunks> bkerensa, its not offtopic
[06:35] <sniggles> im gonna burn new cd with wodim just to check
[06:35] <rymate1234> I'm trying to follow the quickly 12.04 user guide
[06:35] <chamunks> if you have been following what i've been asking
[06:36] <chamunks> you're clearly not
[06:36] <rymate1234> where da fu is my GtkHBox
[06:36] <chamunks> im asking if the damn software in ubuntu
[06:36] <chamunks> will accept the stream from the damn camera
[06:36] <chamunks> if it wont
[06:36] <chamunks> thers no point in the difference.
[06:36] <chamunks> I dont see how this is off topic.
[06:36] <sniggles> dont curse the software!
[06:37] <sniggles> or the hardware!
[06:37] <chamunks> This channel is getting pushy.  Damn
[06:37] <chamunks> the ubuntu community used to be fairly friendly.
[06:37] <bkerensa> chamunks: There is no guarantee that a cam will support Ubuntu or vice versa since there is not a certification process for webcams
[06:37] <dr_willis> the Video4Linux site would be the place to look......
[06:38] <chamunks> ranched, fair enough so you figure the difference between pre processed and just letting my cpu do the lifting with ffmpeg is moot.
[06:38] <rymate1234> also, the glade menu bar doesn't integrate with the unity interface
[06:38] <ranched> chamunks: I do it that way. I have a few tuts on youtube about the subject
[06:38] <bkerensa> !justask | rymate1234
[06:39] <rymate1234> i did just ask
[06:39] <ranched> chamunks: then again I do a lot of work for ffmpeg =)
[06:39] <rymate1234> :)
[06:39] <chamunks> ranched, you wouldnt be interested in pm'ing me the channel?
[06:39] <dr_willis> id bet the video4lin stuff would take the h264 stuff and just turn it back in to whatever normal output is for  video devices.. so would add more cpu load..
[06:39] <rymate1234> I'll do it in one line
[06:39] <chamunks> ranched, I was doing a bit of re encoding by the guidance from #ffmpeg I believe a few days ago.
[06:39] <dr_willis> bbl
[06:40] <chamunks> I built a batch re-encoding bash script.
[06:40] <rymate1234> I'm trying to follow the quickly 12.04 user guide and I think something is up with glade. There's no GtkHBox and the menu bar ain't in the unity panel.
[06:40] <rymate1234> I have tried restarting glade
[06:41] <bkerensa> rymate1234: I know there is a bug currently occuring in 12.10 but I have not heard of this in 12.04... Do you have all updates?
[06:42] <rymate1234> I have one update
[06:42] <Kartagis> hi
[06:42] <rymate1234> for the unity video lens
[06:42] <LenovoG470> hello guys,
[06:42] <bkerensa> rymate1234: If you open the unity dash and search for "glade" does more than one glade show up in the results?
[06:43] <Kartagis> I updated to 12.04 two days ago, and I have nameserver 127.0.0.1 in my /etc/resolv.conf. how come?
[06:43] <rymate1234> ye
[06:43] <rymate1234> 2 glades
[06:43] <rymate1234> wtf
[06:43] <LenovoG470> can anyone lead me to a channel about Ubuntu 11.10 + Skype, much obliged.
[06:43] <bkerensa> Kartagis: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[06:44] <bkerensa> Kartagis: there is a level of dns caching that occurs to speed up resolving of frequent domains
[06:44] <Ecto> Hello everyone
[06:44] <pandaubuntu_> hi, can anyone tell me where is the configuration file of gnome-shell-extension (that says which extensions are active)
[06:44] <Ecto> Anyone ever used ubuntu satanic edition
[06:45] <Kartagis> bkerensa: what if I need to change my DNS from time to time? what file do I need to edit?
[06:45] <bazhang> Ecto, thats not supported here
[06:45] <pandaubuntu_> Ecto: i used it
[06:45] <pandaubuntu_> but i don't like groove metal :)
[06:45] <rymate1234> bkerensa, the glade that was opened by "quickly design" is 3.12.1
[06:45] <rymate1234> wat do
[06:45] <bkerensa> rymate1234: might want to file a bug on glade
[06:46] <bkerensa> rymate1234: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[06:47] <bkerensa> Kartagis: you could disable dnsmasq but you can still set nameservers in network-manager which dnsmaq will use to do lookups
[06:47] <qqq> i built the android emulator code, but the sd card is not detected. can anyone tell me why ?
[06:47] <bkerensa> Kartagis: dnsmasq just does some caching but it still does look ups
[06:47] <Tripppy> Hi, users. Any ideas why, when sharing /media with samba only 1/3 partitions are browseable.
[06:48] <rymate1234> apparently its not a bug
[06:49] <LenovoG470> Hi, can we ask questions on Skype per Ubuntu 11.10 here
[06:49] <rymate1234> 3.12.1 has no GtkHBox or GtkVBox
[06:49] <rymate1234> Just GtkBox
[06:49] <rymate1234> O_o
[06:50] <bkerensa> !justask | LenovoG470
[06:52] <rbp> Hello. Just upgraded from Ubuntu 10 -> 11 and screen is now scrambled. Can vaguely make out icons on left. Any ideas?
[06:52] <rymate1234> kk I solved my problem
[06:52] <rbp> !patience
[06:55] <Kartagis> bkerensa: thanks
[06:55] <Kartagis> one more q: is there a way to clear ff cache off cli?
[06:55] <BotaniCar> hi, i'm trying to get some free disk space, is it safe to delete content of my /usr/src/* ( http://pastebin.com/SC3NP4N1 ) ?
[06:57] <LenovoG470> Hi, which additional ATI drivers to install in Ubuntu 11.10, the post-release or the normal one
[06:57] <bkerensa> Kartagis: you could use Bleachbit
[06:57] <arulmozhi> i'm trying to access parallel port by loading a module. When i write to the device file (sudo echo -n a > /dev/parp ), it shows no errors. but when i read from it (sudo cat /dev/parp), it shows a junk charecter. HELP!!!
[06:58] <Parthyz> Hi anyone install Xen on Ubuntu 10.10 ? Xen support is there on Ubuntu 10.10 ?
[06:58] <Kartagis> !info bleachbit
[06:59] <rbp> Problem must be with unity + compiz. Login with ubuntu classic + no effects works fine.
[07:07] <Kartagis> and, dropbox stalls for me at 99%. any ideas why?,
[07:08] <bkerensa> Kartagis: Not specifically but I have not personally had much luck with Dropbox... Their platform is not totally open source so there is no telling whats wrong.
[07:08] <Arash> Hi :-)
[07:09] <jayar> i cant change the motd for when i login via ssh
[07:10] <cowslapper> Hello
[07:11] <bkerensa> jayar: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ssh-welcome-banner-on-ubuntu/
[07:11] <jayar> i just did that
[07:11] <jayar> it just goes back
[07:12] <Arash> try doing that on console1
[07:12] <Arash> using control+alt+f1
[07:15] <ivosq> anyone got a tip on a good program to use for .csv files, libreOffice Calc does not really  do the job
[07:15] <ivosq> ?
[07:16] <jayar> openoffice works for me
[07:16] <ivosq> oh yeah forgot about that, thanks
[07:16] <ivosq> ^^
[07:17] <Arash> ~ ~
[07:17] <jayar> >>
[07:17] <Arash> <<
[07:17] <jayar> that time a night, eh? :)
[07:17] <Arash> no0h :D
[07:17] <bazhang> !ot
[07:18] <ivosq> that time in the morning ;)
[07:18] <Arash> guys anybody know anything about setting a WAF
[07:19] <Arash> on Apache ?
[07:19] <bazhang> Arash, tried #httpd yet?
[07:19] <Arash> yes
[07:19] <Arash> but wanna know how to set something like modsecurity
[07:21] <bkerensa> Arash: How to install it?
[07:22] <bkerensa> Arash: http://www.grosseosterhues.com/2011/07/enabling-mod-security-protection-in-apache2-on-ubuntu/
[07:22] <Arash> y
[07:22] <Arash> thank you :)
[07:22] <snigil> ？
[07:24] <fidel> ahoi
[07:25] <cowslapper> hej
[07:25] <StarryNight> hi
[07:26] <dulynoted> question
[07:26] <dulynoted> how many are familiar with rtkit-dae?
[07:26] <loostro> agoodm: hi
[07:26] <dulynoted> noted
[07:26] <dulynoted> hello
[07:27] <dulynoted> gooday rather good later evening
[07:27] <loostro> :)
[07:27] <loostro> i my upgrade from 10.10 to 12.04 is finally finished
[07:27] <loostro> after.. hmm.. 12 hours or so :P
[07:27] <dulynoted> i ask because it was implemented towards my machine and was intriguing pretty much
[07:28] <dulynoted> im running slacko as my machine is fscked atm and in transistion
[07:28] <StarryNight> 10.10 is done
[07:28] <dulynoted> puppy dog linux
[07:28] <dulynoted> i highly recommend it actually
[07:28] <bazhang> !ot | dulynoted
[07:28] <dulynoted> wait
[07:29] <dulynoted> im asking a ubuntu question
[07:29] <dulynoted> about your rtkit
[07:29] <bazhang> dulynoted, whats the question
[07:30] <dulynoted> bazhang
[07:30] <dulynoted> i was devoiced from ##linux but you came here?
[07:30] <joe_> ubuntu
[07:30] <bazhang> dulynoted, do you have an actual support question?
[07:31] <dulynoted> ok I am not going to be fooled and banned from freenode again
[07:31] <dulynoted> as this was the series of events last time
[07:32] <dulynoted> as everyone knows resetting your mac and reconnecting to freenode is easy but that isn't the point
[07:32] <dulynoted> if I am banned I stay banned
[07:35] <snigil> hi
[07:35] <dr_willis> hello
[07:35] <snigil> hello dr_willis
[07:36] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[07:37] <dr_willis> first time ive seen the floodbot trigger ubottu.....
[07:37] <vampirnata> anyone here know much about sensors?
[07:37] <miss_ubuntu_> hellllo room
[07:37] <dr_willis> you mean Lm_sensors?
[07:37] <dr_willis> !sensors
[07:37] <Arash> enjoy the show ?!
[07:37] <miss_ubuntu_> Question : one wireless card , is it possible to connect two wireless networks at same time?
[07:37] <vampirnata> that's the one dr_willis
[07:38] <vampirnata> I'm having some difficulty getting it to display temps besides coretemp
[07:38] <vampirnata> I have a Intel® Desktop Board D945GCLF2D
 Question : one wireless card , is it possible to connect two wireless networks at same time?
[07:39] <DJones> !bot | miss_ubuntu_
[07:39] <VectorX> hi, is there a definitive guide on getting multiseat working on 12.04, i followed several web tutes,etc but cant seem to get it to work ?
[07:39] <dr_willis> miss_ubuntu_:  i dont think its possible
[07:39] <jolle> I tried editiing webmin to remove text login and only use key, now I can't enter at all.. I'm able to change settings in webmin but no-matter what settings I still can't connect over SSH.. has worked fine for months. What can I do? Re-install SSH??
[07:39] <vampirnata> miss_ubuntu_: it's not possible no
[07:40] <fidel> !webmin > jolle
[07:40] <dr_willis> jolle:  webmin is the sort of thing thats besgt avoided.
[07:40] <vampirnata> miss_ubuntu_: why do you need to?
[07:40] <Nerf_Jihad> miss_ubuntu_: not quite yet, though there's a hardware box in the making for WiFi like what RAID did for HDDs
[07:40] <jolle> dr_willis: to stop using webmin is a easy solution, will SSH recover? I don't understand how that helped me
[07:40] <dr_willis> jolle:  id check what settings have been made in your sshd_config
[07:40] <jolle> thanks dr_willis
[07:41] <dr_willis> jolle:  we have no idea what webmin did to your system. its not supported b y ubuntu
[07:41] <bazhang> !ebox | jolle
[07:45] <Arash> !apache
[07:45] <jolle> dr_willis: so there is no easy way to recovery ssh?
[07:46] <Arash> !tasksel
[07:46] <sw> !msgthebot | Arash
[07:46] <dr_willis> jolle:  purge/reinstall.. and hole webmin dident do some other weird changes...
[07:46] <dr_willis> hope..
[07:46] <dr_willis> hopefully webmin put comments in the configs  where it changed things...
[07:47] <triad> how to partition ubuntu: root as primary with ext3 , swap as logical , /home as ext3 primary - its ok ?
[07:47] <dr_willis> triad:  they could all be primary, or all logicals on an extended. it dosent matter
[07:47] <triad> alright
[07:47] <triad> thx
[07:47] <dr_willis> why are you using ext3 instead of ext4 ?
[07:48] <triad> why ext4 ?
[07:48] <Nerf_Jihad> 'coz it's one better
[07:48] <dr_willis> because its more efficneit and the default for normal installs
[07:48] <LenovoG470> Is there a risk of breaking the OS with the installation of the ATI post-release drivers?
[07:48] <triad> alright. thxd
[07:48] <vampirnata> I've but a SATA hdd that has SMART capability into a USB enclosure and now it seems that the I can't get info using SMART. Is this a limitation of the enclosure or USB?
[07:48] <dr_willis> LenovoG470:  worse case. X wont start. so you remove them via the console..
[07:49] <Nerf_Jihad> vampirnata: the enclosure won't translate low-level stuff like that across a USB. it's basically a mobo emulator with a hotplug USB connection
[07:50] <LenovoG470> dr_willis any safer way aviable
[07:50] <dr_willis> LenovoG470:  thats about as safe as it gets i imagine.
[07:50] <vampirnata> Nerf_Jihad: thank you for the clarification. No way around it then?
[07:50] <dr_willis> i cant even think of any other way at all..
[07:51] <LenovoG470> dr-willis what commands to do
[07:51] <Nerf_Jihad> vampirnata: nope. you'll either have to plug it into a real mobo or cope
[07:51] <jolle> dr_willis: this is what auth.log is giving me. I removed webmin -> Jun 26 09:50:41 cclinux sshd[3894]: error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/publicSSHkeys/authorized_keys Jun 26 09:50:41  sshd[3894]: last message repeated 2 times Jun 26 09:50:41 cclinux sshd[3894]: Disabling protocol version 1. Could not load host key Jun 26 09:50:41 cclinux sshd[3894]: fatal: No supported key exchange algorithms [preauth]
[07:51] <vampirnata> Nerf_Jihad: alrighty. Thank you :)
[07:51] <Waraudon> I'm using tc (traffic control) on a Ubuntu box acting as a router. What's the best way to persist tc rules through a reboot?
[07:51] <dr_willis> LenovoG470:  use the addational-drivers tool to insgtall the drivers you want. reboot . see if they work.. if not you use the command line, or jockey-text fromthe command line to remove them.
[07:52] <vampirnata> Nerf_Jihad: any idea regarding my previous question about lm-sensors?
[07:52] <dr_willis> !info tc
[07:52] <LenovoG470> dr-=_willis can u point me to where I can read abt the jockey-text
[07:53] <vampirnata> Nerf_Jihad: apparently a USB3 enclosure supports SMART...
[07:53] <Nerf_Jihad> vampirnata: never had much success with the hard sensors in my boxen, sorry. if I'm concerned about heating, I have a laser thermometer
[07:53] <dr_willis> LenovoG470:  man jockey-text  or jockey-text --help    perhaps/
[07:53] <LenovoG470> dr_willis which of these is safre - post-release or normal, no descript in the USC
[07:54] <VectorX> hi, is there a definitive guide on getting multiseat working on 12.04, i followed several web tutes,etc but cant seem to get it to work ?
[07:54] <dr_willis> LenovoG470:  totally depends on your chipset and the version of the drivers.. ive never needed to use the post-release ones
[07:54] <alexmm> Hello is there a way to limit cpu usage of gwibber or python?
[07:54] <Nerf_Jihad> vampirnata: all the ones I've seen that let you plug your own drive into them were pretty simple. Apparently they've gotten better since the last time I bought one
[07:55] <vampirnata> Nerf_Jihad: ahh okay. I'm not too concerned but I was curious about the GPU temp. The board came with a very noisy little fan on the intel GPU. I removed it and put a decent 120mm fan on the outside of the case instead. The CPU temp went from 39degrees to 20degrees, so I hope the gpu temp also decreased :)
[07:55] <kexwork> hey guys, anyone know the correct method to get microemacs(jasspa) up and running with 12.04 LTS?
[07:55] <LenovoG470> dr_willis, any success stories, you heard. I am paranoia abt breaking it, sad.
[07:56] <dr_willis> LenovoG470:  try the drivers and see.. or stick to the gpl drivers.. is about all i can say.
[07:56] <LenovoG470> dr_willis thanks
[07:56] <dr_willis> i have exactly one ati box.. :) rest are nvidia. or intel.
[07:56] <koopa58> Good morning all :) I have a q about logwatch. Everyday I get 404 entries in the httpd section. But it only shows part of the url, and not the IP that made the request for example. How can I find more information?
[07:57] <Nerf_Jihad> vampirnata: what's xsensors say?
[07:58] <vampirnata> Nerf_Jihad: don't have x, running cli.
[07:58] <Nerf_Jihad> then sensors
[07:58] <nocturnal_> should i use startx or xinit?
[07:58] <vampirnata> only coretemp readings. core0 and core1
[07:58] <vampirnata> however the motherboard tech specs say it has more.
[07:59] <vampirnata> running sensors-detect finds another module and loads it but doesn't display anything
[07:59] <Nerf_Jihad> acpi -tf says what?
[08:00] <nocturnal_> should i use startx or xinit?\
[08:00] <vampirnata> Nerf_Jihad: installing it quick
[08:01] <vampirnata> Nerf_Jihad: no output
[08:01] <pentarex> hey guys check this out http://imagebin.org/217939
[08:01] <pentarex> how is this possible is this DDOS attack ?
[08:01] <Nerf_Jihad> lame. unless you're willing to run unsigned / untested code from a BBS, I dunno what to tell you
[08:02] <miss_ubuntu_> pentarex what r u showing here
[08:02] <pentarex> miss_ubuntu_: load average
[08:02] <Nerf_Jihad> pentarex: that looks like a DDOS
[08:03] <miss_ubuntu_> pentarex there is no load  just 0.3 % cpu
[08:03] <Nerf_Jihad> er
[08:03] <Nerf_Jihad> wait
[08:03] <Nerf_Jihad> pentarex: that's a bunch of apache servers, so that's not normal
[08:04] <Nerf_Jihad> how many of them are running now?
[08:05] <pentarex> How I can check is this a DDOS attack ?
[08:05] <hateball> pentarex: are you running something like Drupal on that server?
[08:05] <pentarex> hateball: yes
[08:06] <hateball> pentarex: Well it will spawn new apache processes by default, so you may just have a lot of visitors
[08:07] <pentarex> hateball: and the load average is 200 + ?
[08:07] <pentarex> that is not normal
[08:07] <vampirnata> might be a brute force attempt
[08:08] <hateball> pentarex: oh lol, I totally didnt even see the load :|
[08:09] <vampirnata> pentarex: is it a production server?
[08:09] <pentarex> vampirnata: yes
[08:09] <vampirnata> pentarex: ahh, so you can't take it offline for testing?
[08:09] <pentarex> from netstat i can see this guys has 188  connections 178.254.234.19
[08:10] <vampirnata> it might be more than one guy
[08:10] <vampirnata> 1 ip doesn't mean it's one user
[08:11] <pentarex> vampirnata: how I can disconnect this ip from the server ?
[08:11] <vampirnata> host.deny I think. not too familiar with apache
[08:11] <pentarex> yes but this ip is from city that has 200 peoples population
[08:11] <koopa58> Good morning all :) I have a q about logwatch. Everyday I get 404 entries in the httpd section. But it only shows part of the url, and not the IP that made the request for example. How can I find more information?
[08:11] <aetoxx> How do I run Google Earth on Ubuntu? make-googleearth-package returns an error. Please don't ask which one (because I won't answer).
[08:12] <vampirnata> pentarex: or you could add a rule on your hardware firewall. not sure if both of those require a restart
[08:12] <jpds> aetoxx: Well, that's not very helpful.
[08:12] <aetoxx> jpds, I said that, because it is a stupid question.
[08:12] <vampirnata> err no it's not
[08:13] <aetoxx> Yes, it is in this context.
[08:13] <vampirnata> How do you figure
[08:13] <aetoxx> vampirnata, because it has been in this state for months.
[08:13] <aetoxx> As such, anyone also using it will also have seen the same problem.
[08:14] <DJones> pentarex: Have you looked into this, may be a way of avoiding the problem https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fail2ban
[08:14] <vampirnata> aetoxx: if it's such a common problem, surely google will tell you how to fix it...
[08:15] <ikonia> pentarex: look at the application DJones sent and the "badbot" plugin
[08:15] <aetoxx> vampirnata, it has been reported as bug already in ... 2011.
[08:15] <aetoxx> It appears nobody uses Ubuntu then.
[08:16] <ikonia> aetoxx: are you being silly ? you're in a channel of 1400+ users
[08:16] <aetoxx> ikonia, hanging around in an IRC channel means it doesn't work.
[08:16] <sulaiman> Hi, I would like to install the oracle instant client on ubuntu, I could only find .rpm packages on their site
[08:16] <dr_willis> hmm.. googleearth-package seems to have installed for me just now..
[08:16] <DJones> aetoxx: I've not used it for a while, but I used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth to setup google earth, I didn't have any problems
[08:17] <ikonia> aetoxx: what ?
[08:17] <hateball> pentarex: you could use mod_evasive
[08:17] <aetoxx> ikonia, I would not be here if everything was working properly.
[08:17] <dr_willis> sulaiman:  you could try the 'alien' command to convert it.. but that can be dangerous to the healty of your system
[08:17] <aetoxx> ikonia, would you?
[08:18] <vampirnata> aetoxx: your attirude is why you're not getting anywhere...
[08:19] <nocturnal_> should i use startx or xinit?
[08:19] <ikonia> aetoxx: no-one said everything was working perfectly, you just said no-one used ubuntu
[08:20] <ikonia> aetoxx: if you need help, just ask a question rather than spewing cryptic stuff
[08:20] <pentarex> hateball: I think it is a ddos Attack, I tell this guys to find their own hosting I am not an administrator I am developer :D
[08:20] <dr_willis> nocturnal_:  i tend to make a custome.xinitrc and use startx but it depend son your needs
[08:20] <aetoxx> dr_willis, and yet you didn't verify what I said.
[08:20] <hateball> pentarex: oh ok, well good luck then!
[08:20] <aetoxx> dr_willis, the package installs, but the package installs a package builder which doesn't work.
[08:20] <nocturnal_> dr_willis: where do you put the xinitrc?
[08:20] <pentarex> hateball: thank you :)
[08:20] <dr_willis> nocturnal_:  .xinitrc goes in your home dir
[08:20] <kexwork> nocturnal_: ~/
[08:21] <aetoxx> dr_willis, if you are going to say something works, check that the right thing works.
[08:21] <dr_willis> looks like it built and installed here.. but i cant test- beause im sshed in.
[08:21] <nocturnal_> i've been trying that and startx goes to a black screen and xinit works
[08:21] <kexwork> nocturnal_: use xinit then?
[08:22] <nocturnal_> kexwork: that's what i've been using, but i just am curious why startx won't
[08:22] <aetoxx> I will just use the official Google release, since clearly the Ubuntu packager didn't do his job.
[08:22] <dr_willis> nocturnal_:  what are you trying to acomplish?
[08:23] <nocturnal_> dr_willis: learning and trying to understand why startx wont run but xinit will
[08:23] <caveman> quit
[08:23] <dr_willis> nocturnal_:  both are fancy scripts. you could read through them and see what they are doing i guess.
[08:24] <dr_willis> actually startx may be wanting a .xsession these days.. i recall  linking my .xinitrc to .xsession ages ago for some reason
[08:24] <nocturnal_> see that seems likely
[08:25] <dr_willis> i also recall seeing lightdm have a 'custom user session' on some machines.  not sure what script that one used.
[08:28] <zveda> does anybody use teamviewer 7
[08:28] <VectorX> so is multiseat not promoted anymore ?
[08:29] <dr_willis> VectorX:  actually i saw an artical on how Multiseat works very well in fedora (?) with this multiseat hardware gizmo. saw a review of it. Lightdm also has some multiseat features..
[08:30] <dr_willis> artical stated it was beoing worked on to get ubuntu support to be totally plug and play as well like it was in fedora.
[08:30] <VirtualBlackness> !anybody | zveda
[08:30] <dr_willis> thats the last i heard of multiseat in some time.
[08:30] <dr_willis> I think i bookmarked the artical on http://delicious.com/dr_willis
[08:30] <VectorX> dr_willis i have used it before fine with ubuntu with old versions, but just cant get it setup with lightdm etc, so are you telling me to use fedora then ?
[08:37] <dr_willis> VectorX:  the review i saw  was about ehe 'userful' hardware that was supposubly totally plug and play wuth fedora, they were working on ubuntu support. but i cant find the artical now.  other then that.. ive not  seen mutlseat mentioned in ages
[08:37] <dr_willis> lighdm does have specific options in its configs for multiseat. i recall seeing them in the lightdm config files.
[08:40] <__gilles> hi
[08:40] <__gilles> no more ion in packages ? :-(
[08:41] <dr_willis> how.. vague...
[08:41] <dr_willis> brb
[08:43] <spupuser> does anybody here not like the new graphics in ubuntu?
[08:43] <spupuser> too much like windows 7?
[08:45] <abc-kid> dear all, i have exact same error same pic-id http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11883026 run through no err. but still not wireless
[08:45] <abc-kid> pls help
[08:46] <Wiz_KeeD> i have a lot of problems with wireless as well
[08:46] <Wiz_KeeD> nobody seems to help, maybe the symptomps are too strange
[08:46] <abc-kid> i lost wireless after update yesterday
[08:50] <Kingsy> does ubuntu come with a vpn service already installed?
[08:50] <Kingsy> I am looking to setup a vpn see :)
[08:55] <niklasfi> hi, how can i test something as a certain user? is there a way to log in as somebody on the shell?
[08:55] <silv3r_m00n> in this command  host -t  a apple.com     is it possible to specify a nameserver to query to ?
[08:55] <niklasfi> silv3r_m00n: I don't know, but with dig you can
[08:55] <theadmin> niklasfi: su username
[08:56] <silv3r_m00n> niklasfi: how ? , example ?
[08:56] <niklasfi> theadmin: how would i do that, if the user has no password defined?
[08:57] <niklasfi> silv3r_m00n: it's been a while since i read the man page. I suggest you do the same
[08:57] <theadmin> niklasfi: Hm, you can define a password then. Or just use sudo ("sudo -iu username")
[08:58] <silv3r_m00n> niklasfi: ok
[08:58] <jatt> Kingsy: openvpn
[08:58] <Twinkletoes> quick poll... proftpd or vsftpd as ftp server of choice?
[08:58] <niklasfi> theadmin: id tells me that sudo -ui did not work. i still have the old credentials
[08:59] <Twinkletoes> Kingsy: Have you tried OpenVPN Access Server?
[08:59] <dyd> guys what's a light mail client for ubuntu? not evolution, not thunderbird (something very plain)
[09:00] <Twinkletoes> dyd: Mutt?
[09:00] <theadmin> niklasfi: "-iu", not "-ui". It works here. Before: uid=1000(l) gid=100(users) groups=100(users),50(games),91(video),1002(adbusers), after (with root as an example): uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root),1(bin),2(daemon),3(sys),4(adm),6(disk),10(wheel),19(log)
[09:00] <Kingsy> it looks like the network manager can do it.. but all the options are greyed out after I try to create a new one.. could it be because I am using it through a vnc server?
[09:00] <Kingsy> and I am not actually at the terminal?>
[09:00] <dyd> Twinkletoes, i'll check it out, thanks
[09:00] <niklasfi> theadmin: sorry that was a typo in the irc. did it correctly in my terminal
[09:01] <hipitihop> nVidia vs ATI , I know everyone has personal preferences, best support and stability on 12.04 ?
[09:01] <Kingsy> Twinkletoes: ^^^^^
[09:01] <niklasfi> theadmin: i can do root as well, but it does not work with the user i want to log in as (though i am shure it exists)+
[09:01] <theadmin> hipitihop: nvidia is known to generally provide more support than AMD.
[09:01] <theadmin> niklasfi: Hm, well, it works with any arbitrary user here as well
[09:02] <Twinkletoes> Kingsy: I can't help you with the network manager, but if you want to create a vpn network and need the server-side, try OpenVPN Access Server
[09:02] <Kingsy> Twinkletoes: does that have a gui?
[09:02] <theadmin> niklasfi: Does the user have a login shell defined?
[09:02] <theadmin> niklasfi: If not, ain't gonna work
[09:02] <Twinkletoes> Kingsy: That's the whole point of the project, yes it does
[09:02] <abc-kid> there is so much pain in ubuntu now. should we abandon it ?
[09:02] <niklasfi> theadmin: /bin/false…
[09:03] <Kingsy> Twinkletoes: wicked..
[09:03] <theadmin> niklasfi: Well, duh -- it logs you out right after you log in pretty much. Change that to bash or something %)
[09:04] <theadmin> niklasfi: If you just want to run a single command as that user, a simplier way may be "sudo -u username your_command args"
[09:05] <niklasfi> theadmin: yay! mpd works. it seems it did not work well with /bin/false
[09:06] <theadmin> niklasfi: Hm, okay
[09:07] <Kartagis> I've enabled cairo-dock. why don't I have alt+tab now? can't I use both?
[09:09] <terminhell> howdy
[09:10] <agoodm> terminhell, hi
[09:11] <terminhell> agoodm: just here to help, how you doin
[09:11] <agoodm> im good thanks
[09:11] <fishbait> how do i make cairo-dock auto-start only in lightdm (gnome-fallback)
[09:12] <terminhell> gnome-session-properties fishbait
[09:12] <terminhell> or "startup applications"
[09:13] <fishbait> hmm i'm using kde so if i disable a startup application it only disables it in that gui?
[09:13] <Kartagis> why is the option "Add a printer" grayed out?
[09:14] <terminhell> user permissions Kartagis
[09:14] <terminhell> fishbait: not sure, dont have much kde experience
[09:14] <terminhell> Kartagis: is there a little padlock icon or an "unlock" button?
[09:15] <Kartagis> terminhell: no
[09:15] <fishbait> in genreal does disabling an startup application only disable it for that specific gui?
[09:15] <dyd> is there any light mail client for ubuntu? not evolution, not mutt, not thunderbird (it's buggy)
[09:15] <terminhell> fishbait: it depends on how your starting a particular gui and what that application depends on to run
[09:15] <fidel> dyd: just curious: how is TB buggy?
[09:15] <terminhell> dyd: sendmail?
[09:15] <fishbait> i select it from log in screen
[09:16] <dyd> fidel, create account button greyed out
[09:16] <dyd> fidel, seems funny but couldn't make it work, and i don't want to waste my day finding the solution
[09:16] <fishbait> dyd: user permissions?
[09:16] <Kartagis> this is stupid with a S
[09:16] <fidel> dyd: afaik that isnt a button but a dropdown-list of actions
[09:16] <fidel> inside: account settings
[09:17] <dyd> http://www.google.it/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=thunderbird+create+account+button+greyed+out&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest
[09:17] <dyd> fidel, i'm talking about the last version
[09:17] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  get back with me in about 4 hrs when im at home and i will check ccsm and compiz and that dock to see if alt-tab works for me.. coul dbe you just need to enable it/map it in the ccsm tool..
[09:18] <fidel> dyd: whatever last version means for you. strange - but ok
[09:18] <fidel> good luck
[09:18] <joachibl> dyd: since you're apparently already using opera, have you tried using its e-mail client as well? i quite like it.
[09:18] <Kartagis> dr_willis: now, there's no option to authenticate so that I can add a user
[09:18] <Kartagis> brb
[09:18] <dr_willis> Ijust do 'sudo adduser username' ;)
[09:19] <dr_willis> brb.. got a job to do..
[09:19] <dyd> fidel, last version = 3.1.3
[09:20] <fidel> dyd: last TB is 13.0.1
[09:20] <dyd> fidel, Lightning 1.0b2 (Thunderbird 3.1.x)
[09:20] <terminhell> Kartagis: do you have a .xinit in your home?
[09:20] <dyd> fidel, that b2 stands for beta? good to know lol
[09:21] <fidel> dyd: thunderbird itself is at v13 still
[09:21] <dyd> i just used apt-get install thunderbird
[09:21] <fidel> so why are you using 3.x?
[09:21] <dyd> it seems to install automatically that version
[09:21] <fidel> lightning 1.5.1 here
[09:21] <fidel> just to give you some other version-strings ;)
[09:22] <dyd> ok let's try again
[09:22] <fidel> mozilla tries to keep TB at same version then Firefox - so its around 13 right now
[09:22] <fidel> dyd: you might start with: apt-cache policy thunderbird
[09:22] <fidel> and tell us your distri version
[09:22] <Sparky1> hey, I have a driver problem...
[09:23] <Sparky1> I use a wireless mouse and keyboard.
[09:23] <Sparky1> but I cant get them to work, as i cant install a driver, because I have the disks, but I dont know how
[09:24] <dyd> fidel, http://pastebin.com/z7B2SENV
[09:24] <terminhell> good luck with that Sparky1, you'll probably need some specific libraries for them, and full functionality may or may not be there
[09:25] <Sparky1> I also cannot get my proper wireless adapter to install
[09:25] <terminhell> what platform are you on?
[09:26] <Sparky1> currently, to talk, I am using windows. im having trouble getting it to work with the Ubuntu 12.04 OS
[09:26] <terminhell> i meant hardware
[09:27] <terminhell> in short, id goolge your hardware + "ubuntu"
[09:27] <Kartagis> funny, lightdm doesn't let me authenticate at all so that I can add a printer
[09:27] <dr_willis> a wireless mouse and keyboard shouldent need any special drivers - unless they are bouetooth. or to just enable special features
[09:27] <terminhell> dont use lightdm Kartagis ?
[09:28] <dr_willis> lightdm wont let you login?
[09:28] <dr_willis> or what does it do exactly
[09:28] <terminhell> dr_willis: how else would you have a wireless keyboard/mouse?
[09:28] <Kartagis> dr_willis: there's no padlock or whatnot to authenticate myself
[09:29] <Sparky1> hardware... motherboard is fine.  AMD athlon 64, Nvidia geforce 6800 graphics card, I use an Asus 802.11b/g network adapter..
[09:29] <dr_willis> terminhell:  all the wireless keyboard/mice ive ever had are usb compatiable- and never needed any exta drivers. they even worked in DOS ;)
[09:29] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  i think you said 'lightdm' when you ment somthing else...
[09:29] <terminhell> Kartagis: does your wireless adapter show up in lspci?
[09:30] <Kartagis> terminhell: I wonder if I am saying it right, I'm talking about the cairo-dock stuff in the list when loginning
[09:30] <Sparky1> and willis, oddly enough mine dont. logitech setpoint, with a little wireless reciever
[09:30] <Kartagis> terminhell: I'm on a desktop, hence no wireless
[09:30] <terminhell> Kartagis: kde should have a startup applications equivilant
[09:30] <dr_willis> Sparky1:   my wireless mouse/keyboard even work in the bios. logitech with the universial mini dongle
[09:31] <Sparky1> yup, willis. my keyboard works in the bios... but not in ubuntu!! >.<
[09:31] <neo1691> bluetooth never works (inbuilt in laptop) please help
[09:32] <uni4dfx> What exactly is the advantage of using UUIDs over partition names?
[09:32] <dr_willis> partition names can change.. uuids shouldent change
[09:32] <dr_willis> !uuid
[09:32] <terminhell> slave/master drives, raid, advanced partitioning uni4dfx
[09:32] <uni4dfx> strange, whenever i resize a partition it gets a new UUID
[09:33] <uni4dfx> while the name stays the same
[09:33] <terminhell> as it should
[09:33] <terminhell> uuid's are like mac addresses
[09:33] <dr_willis> name = label you mean..  You can change the uuid if you want. and it depends on how you resize the filesystem.
[09:34] <dr_willis> tune2fs commmand can change the label, and uuid,. and other special settings
[09:34] <neo1691> when i click Turn On Bluetooth on the panel, it says bluetooth is on, but when i go to bluetooth settings bluetooth button is off and it never starts, i mean i cannot set it to ON.
[09:34] <fidel> dyd: so you got v12 now ...first step
[09:34] <fidel> guess ubuntu 11.04 doesnt offers TBv13 right?
[09:34] <terminhell> neo1691: maybe your user isnt set in the bluetooth group?
[09:34] <uni4dfx> terminhell I mean name = /dev/sdXY
[09:35] <neo1691> terminhell, I am the only user, still i will check
[09:35] <dr_willis> uni4dfx:  those can definatly change...
[09:35] <dr_willis> uni4dfx:  ive seen mbs that make whatgever hd youy boot becaome 'sda' befor  which was really... confuseing
[09:35] <neo1691> I am the administrator,
[09:35] <loparczew> Guys, how to get sources of some applications without administrator's password?
[09:36] <uni4dfx> dr_willis that's a good point, i can see how UUIDs could come in handy in this case
[09:36] <terminhell> neo1691: run 'groups' first, then maybe cat /etc/group |cut -d: -f1
[09:36] <fidel> loparczew: how is getting source of specific apps related with having root-privileges at all?
[09:37] <dr_willis> uni4dfx:  add in usb devices which jump around..   you can also mount based on Filesystem Label - which is kind of nifty.
[09:37] <fidel> locate the projects version-management and check out the source you are looking for
[09:38] <cosmic> loparczew: you can use sudo ithink too get root
[09:38] <dr_willis> i thought the apt-get system had a way to download the source package to the current directgory. but if the -src repos are not enabled.. that may not work
[09:39] <fidel> yep
[09:39] <cosmic> loparczew: something like supo apt-get install whatever
[09:39] <cosmic> loparczew: something like sudo apt-get install whatever
[09:39] <fidel> afaik: apt-get source PACKAGENAME
[09:39] <neo1691> terminhell, after running groups i get this adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare bumblebee jupiter
[09:40] <fidel> loparczew: but if you cant use apt - just use the web & cli to checkout whatever project - as long as the repo is public
[09:40] <kanliot> on macs with efi booting:  These can't run ubuntu, without hax, right?
[09:41] <theadmin> kanliot: You'll need the EFI version of Grub... But I think that's about it
[09:41] <fidel> kanliot: not sure what you mean - in the past the 'hack' was using refit to have some kind of useable boot-manager afterwards
[09:41] <dr_willis> is 'refit' a hack?   :)
[09:41] <dr_willis> !info refit
[09:41] <fidel> its software ;)
[09:41] <terminhell> neo1691: hmm, not sure, seems like your missing something ya need then, id run an apt-cache search bluetooth for something
[09:42] <loparczew> Thanks.
[09:43] <kanliot> thanks for help, i guess i need a mac to understand mac booting
[09:43] <fidel> kanliot: try asking in ##mac
[09:43] <terminhell> or BSD kanliot haha
[09:43] <dr_willis> makes me wonder why  they made the booting so complex on them. ;)
[09:43] <neo1691> terminhell, there is a big list with everything that matches to bluetooth, but i see one gnome-bluetooth
[09:43] <theadmin> kanliot: Simply install the grub-efi package and you should be good to go (I think. Might need to re-run grub-install -- I'm not sure about how well Ubuntu automates this.)
[09:44] <fidel> kanliot: the mac channel has at least 2-3 technical users which should know efi and the booting scenario quite well - or consider searching for hackintosh - which is the area where ppl discuss macs & booting etc as well
[09:44] <terminhell> neo1691: go for it? at te very worst you end up uninstalling it
[09:44] <dr_willis> !bluetooth
[09:45] <kanliot> i just need to know what it involves, when I try and get mac people to use ubuntu
[09:45] <neo1691> terminhell, i am actually using unity.. dr_willis !buethooth??
[09:45] <dr_willis> mac people normally use macs because of the mac apps they cant live without. ;)
[09:45] <theadmin> kanliot: Mac people are Mac people. You can't get them to use *anything*
[09:45] <fidel> kanliot: my personal hint: in case someone gets apple HW - use the apple SW as well. everything else is a big mess ...at least in details
[09:46] <fidel> kanliot: spending time and effort to make them using something else is more or less wasting time - nor will it easily work
[09:47] <terminhell> l8r all
[09:47] <fidel> kanliot: best way offering them an easy first look & feel into linux is running some kind of virtual machine inside osx. This reduces the install/setup husstle as well - as you dont need to mess with efi, partitions etc
[09:48] <fidel> virtualbox, vmware fusion or parallels should all do the vm-job quite well. Have fun
[09:48] <dingz> fidel:  have u tried using a mac with retina display w/ ubuntu?
[09:49] <fidel> dingz: i dont buy macs nomore
[09:49] <dingz> the mac people [tm] tell me it doesn't work
[09:49] <dingz> but i want to find out once it gets here
[09:49] <dingz> fidel: ok alright
[09:49] <fidel> dingz: well you'll easily find articles talking about retina and the effects it will have on linux-setups
[09:50] <fidel> it least i've seen one those days the last retina device was published
[09:50] <neo1691> I installed both nome-bluetooth and bluetooth, no success
[09:51] <fidel> dingz: a first starting point maybe: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/what-does-ubuntu-look-like-on-a-retina-display-bad
[09:51]  * dingz clicks and reads
[09:54] <dingz> hehe, looks small
[09:54] <dingz> but i'm sure someone will fix it
[09:55] <Kingsy> Twinkletoes: you still there?
[09:55] <Twinkletoes> Kingsy: Yup
[09:57] <Kingsy> Twinkletoes: I installed that vpn package you mentioned + build-utils but when I start the application it says "Error: you don't have build-utils installed" why would that be ?
[09:58] <Twinkletoes> Kingsy: Please join #openvpn-as
[09:58] <Twinkletoes> Kingsy: I'll help you there
[09:59] <jolle> ssh-1 vs ssh-2 key?? ssh-1 key is alot more encrypted thats why I choose it but now when I read I wonder if it gives more security, any inputs?
[10:01] <ivosq> anyone  got any tip on good data transformation software for 12.04?
[10:01] <MonkeyDust> ivosq  what kind of data?
[10:02] <ivosq> .csv, json, xml
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> ivosq  start from the beginning, what do you want to do, what have you done and tried before you came here
[10:03] <Womkes> ivosq, maybe talend?
[10:03] <xubuntu> hola,estoy el en menu de instalacion de ubuntu y cuando escojo el usb como disco a usar me dice No se definió un sistema de ficheros raíz Por favor, corrija esto en el menú de particionado.
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> !es
[10:04] <Womkes> no no no, ubuntu no here
[10:04] <Womkes> mr. ubuntu no here
[10:05] <MuH4hA> jolle: ssh is a protocol, not a hash-algorithm. You sure, we are not talking about sha-1 / sha-2 ? Also, how do you come to the conclusion that version 1 is "more encrypted" ?
[10:05]  * dr_willis rot13's his key.. is it even moar encrypted now?
[10:06] <ivosq> im working with made up medical data that different companies provide. I extract the different data from different servers but I get the data in xml, json and csv. Im just wondering if there is a software that can manipulate and transform between these 3
[10:06] <ivosq> otherwise i might just code a parser in python using SAX
[10:07] <dr_willis> by transform.. you mean convert.
[10:07] <ivosq> oh yeah sry
[10:07] <ivosq> convert*
[10:07] <theadmin> ivosq: Do that -- there's no big problem with writing a little script/program to convert between plain formats like those
[10:07] <dr_willis> python, perl, sed, awk, ;)
[10:07] <ivosq> Ok I will :)
[10:08] <ivosq> thanks!
[10:08] <peni_> hello, I chowned a file, but I still get permission denied when trying to cat it. what am I doing wrong?
[10:08] <graingert_ufo> why does virtualbox-guest-additions depend on virtualbox-qt
[10:08] <dr_willis> peni_:  ls -l thefile    whats its full permissions
[10:08] <theadmin> peni_: What's the actual mode of that file?
[10:09] <graingert_ufo> it seems a bit mad wanting the vbox guest additions I have to have the actual VM
[10:09] <peni_> theadmin: dunno what mode is, but it's one of those weird files in /sys/kernel/
[10:09] <dr_willis> peni_:  ls -l thefile    and show us..
[10:10] <graingert_ufo> peni_: yeah don't mess about with that
[10:10] <theadmin> peni_: Ah, sysfs... It's special, don't mess with that unless you're sure what you're doing... I think only root has access to that anyway
[10:10] <dr_willis> and what are you trying to do wwith the file?
[10:10] <morri> I get 'load detected on head A' in dmesg and also my resolution is wrong and I can't force it into the right one- any clue where the 'load detected' comes from?
[10:10] <peni_> dr_willis: -rwxr-xr-x 1 peni root 0 etc.
[10:11] <dr_willis> the files name is 'etc.' ?
[10:11] <graingert_ufo> peni_: what's the filename and path
[10:12] <peni_>  /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch (sorry, failing to copy from terminal)
[10:12] <dr_willis> if you want to alter the contents of the file. you should be using sudo to do so. not trying to change its ownership.
[10:13] <dr_willis> which will get reset on the next reboot anyway
[10:13] <peni_> dr_willis: I know, I chown it in rc.local, but why doesn't it work?
[10:15] <dr_willis> i would bet its somthing to do with it being part of /sys/ but lets ask why you are trying to change it.. and do what with it exacatgly?
[10:16] <peetaur> If my goal is to get logs when systems crash, can I use a regular TCP/UDP syslog server, or do I need to use a serial console logger?
[10:17] <testi> Is it a known bug, that user-interface of unity behaves non-deterministic?
[10:17] <peni_> dr_willis: well, not really relevant, but since you ask, I downloaded a script to change the active gfx card, and it requires reading from and writing to this file...
[10:17] <testi> e.g.: If i press the super key an odd number of times the dash doesn't show up necessarily
[10:18] <dr_willis> so if you run the script with sudo. or run it as root from rc.local it shouldhave access
[10:18] <dr_willis> gotta run.. quitting time..
[10:18] <peni_> dr_willis: yeah, I know but it needs to be run as  user for some parts of the script
[10:22] <theadmin> graingert_ufo: virtualbox-guest-additions-iso depends on virtualbox which depends on virtualbox-qt.
[10:22] <theadmin> graingert_ufo: However, since the guest additions are nothing but a plain ISO file, you can easily grab the .deb from packages.ubuntu.com and extract it.
[10:23] <ross> how do I make sure ubuntu always boots in verbose mode?
[10:23] <ross> and shuts down in verbose mode?
[10:23] <graingert_ufo> theadmin: why does the iso dep on vbox-qt?
[10:23] <graingert_ufo> ross: grub config
[10:23] <ross> and how do I get rid of that horrible pink screen before
[10:23] <ross> right
[10:23] <theadmin> graingert_ufo: Because it depends on virtualbox, but that's just packaging problems. Contact the package mantainers I guess
[10:23] <ross> I'll get the file open
[10:24] <hellyeah> hey
[10:24] <hellyeah> which version of photoshop work best on ubuntu
[10:24] <ross> where the hell is grub config
[10:24] <theadmin> hellyeah: Photoshop is a Windows problem.
[10:24] <ross> is it /etc?
[10:25] <ross> lol probably /boot
[10:25] <theadmin> ross: /etc/grub.d/ and /etc/default/grub
[10:25] <hellyeah> theadmin:
[10:26] <hellyeah> i saw a lot of link about working photoshop on ubuntu
[10:26] <theadmin> hellyeah: You can check #winehq, http://winehq.org and such for running the Windows apps on Linux. However, it's not something that's supported in this channel.
[10:26] <peetaur> ross: don't forget "updage-grub" after editing those files
[10:27] <peetaur> *update-grub
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> !appdb| hellyeah
[10:28] <ross> whats a graphical terminal?
[10:29] <ross> it says uncommment if you want to disable the graphical terminal
[10:29] <SirEarl> hiya folks
[10:30] <Varazir> Hi, Can you remove the MOTD from just on user ?
[10:30] <graingert_ufo> who owns http://archive.ubuntu.com/ ?
[10:31] <blackshirt> i think canonical :d
[10:31] <Varazir> one*
[10:32] <SirEarl> anybody here use ubuntu studio?
[10:32] <graingert_ufo> who maintains http://archive.ubuntu.com/ ?
[10:33] <blackshirt> maybe
[10:33] <blackshirt> I'm not
[10:33] <blackshirt> Graingert_ufo, what you want exactly?
[10:33] <graingert_ufo> to talk to them
[10:33] <graingert_ufo> about things
[10:35] <blackshirt> Graingert_ufo, maybe there are email contact on their site
[10:35] <Varazir> I found /etc/update-motd.d/ but it's general scripts
[10:36] <diverdude> How do i install cpufreq and scaling_available_governors ?
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> graingert_ufo  in a terminal, try whois [url]
[10:38] <Effex> Why, when I add a user to a group using "usermod -a -G username" and then use "groups" to check the group of the user (that I'm logged in as) does the recently added group not display, but when I use "groups username" it does?
[10:40] <notze> hey guys
[10:40] <notze> serious question in my test vm 12.04 precise ialways get errors with aptitude: either 404 or invalid header and adn
[10:40] <notze> what can be the reason
[10:41] <notze> size is invalid
[10:41] <notze> all the time something diffrent
[10:41] <theadmin> Effex: Log out and back in for changes to take effects properly.
[10:41] <Effex> Thanks. I'll give that a try.
[10:44] <jluc> hello
[10:45] <bent-stack> Anyone know if there are Virtual machines (resources) available for retesting bugs for Ubuntu - I only have two laptops that don't have the  grunt to dive multiple virtual machines - all at different builds
[10:45] <bent-stack> Thanks
[10:46] <Effex> Thanks, theadmin. Worked perfectly now.
[10:46] <jluc> i have no sound on fresh insall of ubuntu on HP Pavilion DV6. cat /proc/asound/version displays "Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24." instead of 1.0.25. Should i follow  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1681577 ???
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> jluc  in a terminal type alsamixer, MM means mute
[10:46] <theadmin> Effex: Any modifications to user accounts normally require logging out/in.
[10:47] <hellyeah> hey
[10:47] <hellyeah> is there software on ubuntu like photoshop except gimp
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> hellyeah  gimp is the closest to photoshop
[10:48] <Effex> Thanks for the info. The confusion arose with being able to see it with the groups command when I used my username instead of no argument. Will keep it in mind in future.
[10:48] <hellyeah> can i make a logo on gimp
[10:49] <theadmin> Effex: I kind of understand why that happens, but can't really explain it
[10:49] <jluc> i dont see no "MM" with alsamixer, MonkeyDust , but 100 for master speaker (and 00 on green background just the previous line)
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> hellyeah  over 80 users in #gimp, better ask there
[10:50] <hellyeah> sure
[10:50] <hellyeah> sorry
[10:52] <bossdk> Hello, everyone.
[10:52] <bossdk> Why is it so quiet around here today?
[10:53] <jluc> with alsa mixer ai try Analog Mux 1 or 2 aswell as Digital but same, no sound
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> bossdk  maybe #ubuntu-offtopic is where you want to be
[10:55] <federico> !list
[10:59] <Varazir> I tried to add a if statement in 00-header if [ ! "$USER == "foo" ] but it didn't help I still get still get the MOTD msg when foo is logon
[10:59] <chuxxsss> Hi all
[11:00] <ariyan_> Hi!
[11:01] <rupert> chuxxsss: bro
[11:02] <rupert> chuxxsss: hi
[11:02] <ariyan_> Does anyone here scripted DBus with python?
[11:02] <bossdk> Hello ariyan_. Your question is not clear. Can you please rephrase?
[11:02] <chuxxsss> Hi rupert
[11:03] <niko> bossdk: are you human ?
[11:03] <bossdk> Hello niko. Your question is not clear. Can you please rephrase?
[11:03] <niko> !ops | bossdk PircBot
[11:04] <ariyan_> I have problem in getting VPN connection state using DBus in python; Can anyone help?
[11:05] <notze> why is ubuntu 12.04 aptitude so buggy not working shit
[11:05] <notze> hash wrong
[11:05] <notze> header invalid
[11:05] <notze> 404
[11:05] <notze> ...
[11:05] <FloodBot1> notze: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:05] <Myrtti> notze: a) don't flood b) mind the language c) state your problem better
[11:06] <notze> if i do apt-get update i get several error messages and i never runs threw
[11:06] <Sparky1> *headdesk* cannot get any drivers to show up in additional drivers, and I cannot use even a USB mouse to move the cursor in ubuntu
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> Sparky1  what's headdesk?
[11:07] <Sparky1> *hitting your head on the desk in frustration, MonkeyDust
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> Sparky1  please calm down
[11:08] <chuxxsss> Sparky1, , listen to MonkeyDust  you will be fine
[11:08] <elky> notze, try doing update before installing
[11:09] <Sparky1> I am calm, just in despair. seeing as I am having so many problems (to think that before I wiped my hard drive and started xp over, i couldnt even access Ubuntu), now I am just having trouble getting drivers for a wireless mouse and keyboard, to work, and having trouble getting the wireless card to work.
[11:12] <|Long|> hi, if i want to cp everthing inside one folder to another what is the right cmd to do this?
[11:13] <graingert_ufo> |Long|: nautilus
[11:14] <|Long|> so nautilus folder1 /folder2 right?
[11:14] <antarus> so in a changelog I see "  * Regression: gssapi_mech.conf: changed /usr/lib/libgssapi_krb5.so to
[11:14] <antarus>     /usr/lib/libgssapi_krb5.so.2, see #370825, closes: #381986."
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> |Long|  cp * from to
[11:14] <antarus> are those not launchpad bugs?
[11:15] <|Long|> MonkeyDust, thanks
[11:17] <notze> elky how do you mean, what shall i update?
[11:17] <elky> notze, aptitude update
[11:18] <Somelauw> When running aptitude it suggests a lot of removals. Since I am not sure what each of those packages does, I would rather check it with you. Unfortunately I don't know a way to export a list of changes in either aptitude or synaptic.
[11:18] <Sparky1> right.. seeing as I have multiple questions... im going to start with... no drivers appear.  I cannot connect my wireless keyboard and mouse.
[11:19] <notze> elky doing apt-get update i get those errors
[11:19] <notze> thats the problem
[11:19] <SeRVeR_01> Hello
[11:19] <SeRVeR_01> ASL PLZ
[11:19] <elky> notze, put your /etc/apt/sources.list into pastebin
[11:19] <elky> !paste
[11:20] <morri> If I wanted to change my nvidia driver to the proprietary one - which one would I have to take(I have got geforce2 MX)
[11:21] <elky> morri, what ones does Additional Drivers give you the choice of?
[11:23] <morri> hm I only had a look at the website of nvidia so far- do I need to install some GUI first?
[11:24] <ariyan_> ariyan_
[11:25] <elky> morri, no. You need to go to the dash and type Additional Drivers and you should get an icon that looks like a pci card and a lock
[11:26] <morri> ok it is starting
[11:26] <elky> it might take a while to load, it has to check lots of information
[11:27] <morri> okay it says no proprietary drovers are in use on this system
[11:28] <elky> does it show any choices you can use?
[11:28] <morri> no
[11:28] <elky> There might not be anything available for your card then.
[11:29] <Conradzz> Whats up?
[11:30] <elky> morri, is there a specific problem you're wanting the proprietary driver to solve?
[11:30] <morri> yes
[11:30] <morri> I posted it earlier
[11:31] <Conradzz> So, I'm getting hard freezes randomly it seems now, anyone care to see if they can help?
[11:31] <elky> morri, can you repeat it now for me, i can't find it
[11:31]  * rymate1234 is making a ubuntu notes app
[11:31] <morri> right must have been in the other channel- ok I have got a resolution problem
[11:31] <morri> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2010849
[11:32] <notze> elky: deb http://security.ubuntu.com 404 not found ip:91.189.92.151 80
[11:33] <morri> for some reason- the pc doesnt get the right resolution anymore and every time i do something with resolution it has this "Load detected on head A" message
[11:34] <Conradzz> Anyone wanna help me with some hard freezes?
[11:35] <fidel> !ask > Conradzz
[11:35] <fidel> !details > Conradzz
[11:36] <Conradzz> I've got a Asus netbook, that I've tried to get running at least somewhat stable, but it seems it just wants to freeze
[11:36] <Conradzz> I installed ubuntu 12.04 on it to begin with, and updated completely, then I would get hard freezes within a few seconds of hitting the login screen
[11:37] <Conradzz> so I uninstalled it, reinstalled, and chose not to install any updates, and it ran fine for a while
[11:37] <Conradzz> until one day, out of the blue it started freezing on me again at login
[11:37] <Conradzz> so I decided to update and upgrade the system, that got it working for about a few hours, then it started randomly freezing
[11:38] <Conradzz> I've tried proprietary drivers, and non-proprietary
[11:38] <maedox> Conradzz: Did you try to change to Ubuntu 2D or Gnome on the login screen?
[11:39] <Conradzz> heres one thing, at the moment, I can login, open up firefox, and go to youtube, watch a movie for a few seconds and then it hard freezes on me
[11:39] <Conradzz> and no I didn't not try that maedox
[11:39] <fidel> how do you define hardfreeze Conradzz?
[11:39] <elky> notze, what version are you trying to get updates for?
[11:40] <Conradzz> hard, as in nothing happens, no caps lock key blinking, no cursor moving
[11:40] <fidel> Conradzz: can you i.e. ssh in at that moment?
[11:40] <IronIron> hey, I need some help getting blender to run
[11:40] <Conradzz> honestly fidel, I would have no idea how to do that, I'm still fairly new to linux
[11:40] <IronIron> so I'm using ubuntu studio 12.04, it comes with blender 2.62, that runs just fine
[11:40] <IronIron> but I just downloaded and extracted the linux version of blender 2.63 from the official blender site
[11:41] <IronIron> I can't get it to run
[11:41] <morri> any  idea elky?
[11:41] <IronIron> I went to the directory in terminal and typed blender into console, I just get 2.62 launching
[11:41] <fidel> IronIron: personaly i would stick to SW coming via apt or ppa (in case you trust it)
[11:41] <elky> morri, no sorry. your card is very old :-/
[11:41] <fidel> manually installing software sounds like the beginning of the end
[11:41] <IronIron> it's from the official blender.org site
[11:41] <theadmin> IronIron: "blender" will refer to blender in your $PATH. Try "./blender" or "/path/to/directory/blender" instead.
[11:41] <IronIron> okay, so how do I change that?
[11:42] <morri> my pc 10 years old..
[11:42] <theadmin> IronIron: Change what?
[11:42] <Conradzz> so, I just loaded up by clicking Ubuntu 2d, opened firefox went to a youtube video, dragged the play bar, and it froze again
[11:42] <IronIron> or at least get blender 2.63 launching
[11:42] <IronIron> I want to launch blender 2.63
[11:42] <theadmin> IronIron: Well I just pointed out how to launch what you downloaded :/
[11:42] <IronIron> hmm, didn't see the ./
[11:42] <IronIron> I shall try that
[11:43] <IronIron> permission denied
[11:43] <DJones> morri: I used to have a geforce2 card, I've not used it for a few years, from memory I stopped using it because it was no longer supported in the official nvidia drivers, it would only work with vesa or the nouveau driver, but with both of those, I could get 1600*1200 resolutions, just no special effects
[11:43] <maedox> Conradzz: does it still freeze if you don't use flash in a web browser? e.g. normal browsing, or you could test HTML5 on youtube by at youtube.com/html5
[11:43] <theadmin> IronIron: That's odd... Let me try it here
[11:44] <IronIron> http://www.blender.org/download/get-blender/
[11:44] <IronIron> that's where i got it from, I got 2.63 64 bit for linux
[11:44] <Conradzz> I'll give it a go maedox, I have tried html5 on this netbook before and its basically unwatchable
[11:44] <morri> i don't need no special effects and it used to work perfectly till now when it starts acting up
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> morri  try ubuntu classic (fallback), no whistles and bells
[11:45] <maedox> Conradzz: doesn't matter, if it works, flash might be the culprit.
[11:45] <morri> I am on lubuntu actually *cough*
[11:45] <remontees> Can I use the proposed source whithout dangers ?
[11:45] <ismail_213213> Hi!
[11:45] <remontees> Hi !
[11:45] <LjL> remontees: no
[11:46] <snigil> HI！
[11:46] <remontees> Why LjL ?
[11:46] <LjL> remontees: proposed is for testers, may easily break
[11:46] <remontees> the PPA are more stables ?
[11:46] <Conradzz> just opened up firefox maedox, and it froze before the page even loaded
[11:46] <ismail_213213> Hi!
[11:46] <theadmin> IronIron: That version works great here.
[11:46] <LjL> remontees: PPA stability varies widely, since they're all made by different people
[11:46] <IronIron> howd you launch it?
[11:46] <amal_> when opening in libraoffice print preview it exits why?
[11:46] <IronIron> maybe it's the folder I put it in
[11:46] <thothstriangle> hello
[11:46] <remontees> Because I'm using Firefox Beta (I've register the PPA), and it works great
[11:46] <IronIron> I put it on a separate hard drive
[11:47] <IronIron> and you're sure it's not just launching 2.62 instead of the 2.63
[11:47] <remontees> But the packages in proposed are all stables but not securised for Ubuntu ?
[11:47] <thothstriangle> who would know how to remove a ssh key from ubuntu and if i do will it still connect ok?
[11:47] <theadmin> IronIron: Just extracted the archive with "tar xf blender-blah-blah.tar.bz2", then "cd blender-blah-blah" and "./blender"
[11:47] <Conradzz> this time I didn't get past the login screen of ubuntu maedox
[11:47] <IronIron> hmm, I shall try again
[11:48] <remontees> IronIron, apt-get install blender
[11:48] <IronIron> nar, I need 2.63
[11:48] <ismail_213213> i will get a backup with clonezilla of my ext4 ubuntu 12.04 parttition. it is possible to get this backup to work on another computer (with bigger partittion)?
[11:48] <maedox> Conradzz: does ctrl+alt+f1 work?
[11:48] <LjL> remontees: the program version may be considered stable, but the package itself might break. you probably don't want to end up with a non-working APT
[11:48] <IronIron> the only version on the repository is 2.62 as far as IU know
[11:48] <Conradzz> one thing I have noticed, sometimes ubuntu loads weird, for instance most times I get a clean looking ubuntu logo with dots turning orange
[11:48] <IronIron> bash: ./blender: Permission denied
[11:49] <remontees> LjL, it's sure : but it's so dangerous ????
[11:49] <Conradzz> sometimes it tells me cryptswap isn't ready or loaded yet
[11:49] <fidel> IronIron: as mentioned before ...there are ppa's for blender
[11:49] <LjL> remontees: if it weren't dangerous, they wouldn't be in a separate repository for testers, don't you think?
[11:49] <IronIron> ppas?
[11:49] <fidel> !ppa > IronIron
[11:49] <Conradzz> no maedox I can't hit Ctrl + Alt + F1
[11:50] <remontees> LjL, I want to use Debian Wheezy
[11:50] <Lartza> Formatted my ipod to ext4 and df -h tells me 551M in use :/
[11:50] <remontees> because Ubuntu is not up to date
[11:50] <remontees> Firefox beta is very good
[11:50] <maedox> Conradzz: messages about crypt doesn't necessarily mean anything, just that it's not finished preparing it for mount. Slow computer perhaps...
[11:50] <IronIron> well isn't that what this is?
[11:50] <Conradzz> ya its a netbook maedox
[11:50] <remontees> And Ubuntu has packages that I don't use
[11:50] <LjL> remontees: so remove them?
[11:50] <remontees> can i uninstall xterm or xdiagnose ???
[11:50] <maedox> Conradzz: OK, do you have a live CD or USB stick you can try? See if the same happens with that.
[11:51] <LjL> remontees: you probably can. try, and before you hit "Yes", look at what else is going to be removed with them.
[11:51] <maedox> Not sure how, but we need to see some logs like /var/log/syslog and dmesg|tail to make any sense of it.
[11:51] <remontees> Uh LjL ???
[11:51] <remontees> I can't understand...
[11:51] <maedox> Conradzz: Might be failing hardware. Hard to say with no error messages to go on.
[11:51] <ismail_213213> i will get a backup with clonezilla of my ext4 ubuntu 12.04 parttition. it is possible to get this backup to work on another computer (with bigger partittion)? ıf i boot Ubuntu, it will open properly?
[11:52] <LjL> remontees: apt-get will tell you what packages will be removed when you try to remove a package. if it says only xterm (for example) will be removed, it's ok, if it says many packages will be removed, it's not ok
[11:52] <Conradzz> its a fairly brand new computer maedox
[11:52] <maedox> Conradzz: Do you have another computer you can use to SSH into the netbook?
[11:52] <remontees> apt-get tell me none !
[11:52] <remontees> sorry, I'm french, and I try do speak with a good english
[11:52] <Conradzz> I don't know how to ssh I'm still fairly new to all this maedox
[11:53] <maedox> ok, but you do have another device you can use?
[11:53] <LjL> remontees: i've just tried removing xterm; it's fine, it only removes xterm.
[11:53] <Conradzz> I have a windows pc, ya I'm on it right now
[11:53] <IronIron> nar I just keep getting permission denied
[11:53] <remontees> But xdiagnose ????
[11:53] <LjL> remontees: if it says: "The following packages will be REMOVED:  xterm" then it's good. if it says: "The following packages will be REMOVED:  xterm anotherpackage thirdpackage manymorepackages" it's not good
[11:53] <remontees> What are this packages ???
[11:54] <maedox> apt-get install openssh-server on the netbook, then download putty on the windows and use that to connect
[11:54] <Conradzz> just tried my usb with Ubuntu on it, and it froze on the logo page
[11:54] <LjL> remontees: xdiagnose is a program to help you if X stops working. you probably want to keep it.
[11:54] <remontees> And an other thing strange : when I try to install Kdenlive, Ubuntu wants me to install KDE !!!!
[11:54] <IronIron> well obviously, I have permissions problems with terminal
[11:54] <remontees> LjL, yes, but why this program is in the menu principal ?
[11:55] <IronIron> how do i fix it?
[11:55] <LjL> remontees: are you sure it doesn't just want you to install the KDE *libraries*?
[11:55] <Conradzz> I'll give it a try maedox, to be honest I'm about to the point of just tossing linux to the side, I've wanted to learn it quite a bit, but it just seems theres always problems
[11:55] <remontees> kde common...
[11:55] <ismail_213213> i will get a backup with clonezilla of my ext4 ubuntu 12.04 parttition. it is possible to get this backup to work on another computer (with bigger partittion)? ıf i boot Ubuntu, it will open properly?
[11:56] <fidel> ismail_213213: clonezilla just heavily dislikes smaller target-partitionsd
[11:56] <LjL> remontees: it's normal for KDE programs to need a whole lot of KDE libraries
[11:56] <fidel> having bigger targets shouldnt be an issue
[11:56] <maedox> Conradzz: Usually there might be small issues, but normally easy to fix. It seems you have been very unlucky. Freezes like that are very uncommon.
[11:56] <Conradzz> ya, I've been in this chat probably 3-4 times in the past 6 months, everyone tells me its my fault in the end
[11:57] <maedox> Conradzz: If you get in the netbook via putty, you should tail -f /var/log/syslog and see if it writes something useful.
[11:57] <ikonia> you won't see anything
[11:57] <ikonia> as if it's freezing it won't be able to write
[11:57] <ismail_213213> fidel: ok i know. but i don't know if ubuntu 12 will start properly because it will be on another machine. driver problems etc... ?!
[11:57] <Conradzz> installing openssh on the netbook now
[11:58] <maedox> ikonia: we might get lucky and get something useful. Worth a shot.
[11:58] <ikonia> maedox: why ?
[11:58] <Conradzz> netbook froze trying to install it
[11:58] <remontees> when I go to packages.debian, Kdenlive don't require kde-common !!!
[11:58] <ikonia> maedox: if it's locking there is no capability to write
[11:58] <theadmin> remontees: Debian packages are different and are called differently.
[11:59] <Conradzz> would it work if I boot into recovery, drop into root, mount the disk, enable wifi, then install openssh?
[11:59] <maedox> ikonia: so what do you suggest?
[11:59] <remontees> theadmin, it's a reason that I want to use Debian Testing
[11:59] <ikonia> maedox: following through the install process, looking for errors, verifying hardware compatability, verifying hardware stability, numerous choices to follow
[11:59] <theadmin> remontees: Kdenlive will still want KDE libs, be it called "kde-common", or something else.
[12:01] <remontees> theadmin, the last time I've installed Kdenlive, I was able to use KDE.
[12:01] <theadmin> remontees: Okay, I don't see how that's a problem?
[12:02] <remontees> I don't want to have KDE environnement !!!
[12:02] <theadmin> remontees: Why not?
[12:02] <theadmin> remontees: You don't have to use it.
[12:02] <remontees> because I don't want
[12:02] <remontees> It's fat on my disk
[12:03] <remontees> 100 GO de HDD
[12:11] <fidel> remontees: well ask yourself then what is more important - using an app which might depend on something big - or not using it and having more free disk space
[12:13] <remontees> fidel, it's sure :)
[12:16] <bluenemo_> hi guys, in 12.04, where can i find stuff like /dev/.udev/block/db/block/sda to get information like ID_SERIAL and infos about the block device? i found /sys/block/sda/foobar but i couldnt find something with the devices exact name and serial number and so on, where can i look for that?
[12:20] <alankila> bluenemo_: cat /proc/scsi/scsi
[12:20] <alankila> it might be elsewhere, also try lshw
[12:20] <Conradzz> ok maedox, I've ssh'd into the netbook
[12:22] <bluenemo_> alankila, i need the plain file (cant use a tool), thx for the proc hint, also not as much as i was hoping for in it :/
[12:22] <Conradzz> anyone think they can help me with hardfreezes on my ubuntu 12.04 install
[12:22] <alankila> whatever. It's almost definitely there in /sys
[12:22] <alankila> but IDK where
[12:22] <Conradzz> it seems to be freezing randomly now
[12:22] <bluenemo_> i thought so :)
[12:23] <sambagirl> i was wondering when you have a server with say 6 drives in it, and you load the server, is the space contiguous or is it broken up in partitions or what happens with it? can you make it one continuous drive with all drives being added like lego things? understand my question?
[12:23] <ikonia> sambagirl: depends, you set it up how you want
[12:23] <alankila> sambagirl: technically possible, by default all separate
[12:24] <soee> hi, can i found some shutdown logs ? my machine just shutdown and i have no idea why
[12:24] <alankila> sambagirl: you might want to look into RAID0, RAID5 or RAID6 to understand some common technologies of fusing collection of drives into a larger whole
[12:24] <sambagirl> alakila is the software intelligent to know that data is stored on different drives?
[12:24] <alankila> sambagirl: I pre-empted your question. Study the RAID modes a bit.
[12:25] <sambagirl> ok thanks alankila i guess i am forced to investigate this mysterious raid business.
[12:25]  * MonkeyDust was thinking about raid, too
[12:25] <sambagirl> what about lvm?
[12:25] <sambagirl> i asked the question in centos just out of curiosity
[12:26] <alankila> lvm, or device-mapper, is one way to allocate space from collection of physical drives also.
[12:26] <alankila> I suppose most serious people use lvm (dm) and raid (md) together, although I have avoided using lvm so far
[12:27] <remontees> exit
[12:29] <spicaaay> hi
[12:29] <chuxxsss> time to go
[12:29] <spicaaay> hello?
[12:29] <spicaaay> can anyone help with wiping a HDD/
[12:30] <theadmin> spicaaay: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[12:30] <spicaaay> put into terminal?
[12:30] <alankila> spicaaay: hold on a moment. What is the purpose of the wipe?
[12:30] <theadmin> spicaaay: Yes. But you need to do it from a livecd or something -- definetly NOT from an installed system.
[12:30] <spicaaay> wanting to install win7
[12:31] <theadmin> spicaaay: If you want to install another OS, you can just use this OS' installer to wipe everything.
[12:31] <alankila> spicaaay: you don't need to "wipe". All you do is plop in the windows install media and remove partitions and let windows install on the unpartitioned space
[12:31] <theadmin> spicaaay: Windows 7 is not an exception.
[12:31] <Conradzz> how would I uninstall my current graphics driver via terminal?
[12:31] <theadmin> Conradzz: That depends on what the driver is to be honest.
[12:31] <spicaaay> when i put the cd in and select boot from cd, it doesnt do anything
[12:32] <Conradzz> I'm not 100% sure, I just want to get this working, its gotta be the graphics driver
[12:32] <theadmin> Conradzz: What's your problem?
[12:32] <alankila> spicaaay: not even write the "press enter to boot from cd/dvd" message?
[12:32] <Conradzz> hard freezes when I try and log in ubuntu
[12:32] <jolle> I used to use Webmin but I uninstalled it now because It caused me alot of problems and a few gents here in #ubuntu said that it was incompatible with ubuntu 12.04 so I was thinking about trying Zentyal. Is it worth it?
[12:32] <theadmin> Conradzz: Oh that.
[12:33] <Conradzz> yup
[12:33] <spicaaay> i pressed f10 i think (boot menu) and selected boot from cd/dvd
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> jolle  type !zentyal
[12:33] <jolle> !zentyal
[12:33] <alankila> spicaaay: yes, but the cd/dvd may not actually boot because it detects that the system already has an operating system. It usually prompts you to confirm that you want to boot the cd/dvd
[12:33] <theadmin> jolle: If you need a web interface to manage the system, do not manage the system. That's my personal opinion, though. Basically speaking, no, it's not worth it.
[12:33] <spicaaay> didnt prompt at all
[12:33] <jolle> theadmin: thanks
[12:33] <alankila> this is done to ease windows installations, users do not have to remove the dvd from the drive to still boot into their brand new windows system
[12:34] <Conradzz> This is so dumb, I have even reinstalled ubuntu, and specifically not updated just to stop it from freezing
[12:34] <mikubuntu> who wants to talk politics (of computing) :: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/shuttleworth-on-ubuntu-linux-fedora-and-the-uefi-problem/11270
[12:34] <think> i
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> mikubuntu  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic for discussions
[12:34] <alankila> spicaaay: in any case, this sounds like a problem that is not solved by "wiping" the drive. Perhaps your boot media is defective, or you have some other issue.
[12:34] <mikubuntu> ok, MonkeyDust
[12:35] <spicaaay> no, i copied the win7 into the cd so it cant be defective
[12:35] <alankila> "copied the win7 into the cd"?
[12:35] <spicaaay> yes
[12:35] <alankila> what exactly did you do?
[12:35] <galacticboy> #arduino
[12:35] <spicaaay> downloeded from torrent site, copied to cd and burned
[12:36] <alankila> How can "copy to cd" and "burn" be separate steps?
[12:36] <SkippersBoss> !ot | spicaaay
[12:36] <Conradzz> Whatever, fuck linux, all of you are in denial if you think its even remotely usable in its current state.  You can't even update the OS without it breaking something, you still need a specific hardware set otherwise you get bugs, noone can handle, fuck linux.
[12:36] <alankila> did you make the classic mistake of burning a DVD with an .ISO file on it?
[12:36] <spicaaay> dunno, but i put it on there and i have to click burn to burn it
[12:36] <spicaaay> probably xD
[12:36] <alankila> spicaaay: okay, I suspect that you did not build a bootable DVD because you burnt it incorrectly.
[12:37] <spicaaay> pardon?
[12:37] <alankila> if your linux is still alive you can confirm this by mounting the DVD and seeing what it contains. If it has a single ISO file, then that went wrong
[12:37] <SkippersBoss> alankila: spicaaay please take this discussion somewhere else
[12:37] <spicaaay> yep, it has  a singular iso
[12:38] <alankila> nothing futher the discuss. The DVD is not bootable. Wiping HD does not solve issue.
[12:38] <spicaaay> so i need cd?
[12:38] <theadmin> spicaaay: You need to burn it properly.
[12:38] <spicaaay> i dont erally get how i burnt incorrectly
[12:39] <theadmin> spicaaay: You don't put an ISO file onto the drive. An ISO is a disk image. You have to burn it as a disk image.
[12:40] <spicaaay> oh.. yeah, that didnt work when it came up with 2 options, copy as image and copy file i believe..
[12:40] <angs> is there any text editor that can select the whole text? I can not do it by nano
[12:41] <spicaaay> anyway, thank you both theadmin and alankila for your help xD
[12:42] <theadmin> angs: If you mean in CLI, vim can (ggVG). In GUI, you can do it in almost any editor by hitting ctrl-A
[12:42] <graingert_ufo> anyone know (what RewriteRule .* - [F] means / why I can't talk in #apache)?
[12:43] <ikonia> graingert_ufo: you need to have a freenode registered account to talk in apache
[12:43] <ikonia> graingert_ufo: the channel is #httpd
[12:43] <brontosaurusrex> graingert_ufo, probably unregistered nick
[12:43] <graingert_ufo> oh rly
[12:43] <graingert_ufo> NickServ: Nick graingert_ufo is already registered to your account.
[12:44] <brontosaurusrex> what ikonia said
[12:44] <angs> theadmin: I meant on the terminal. Thank you for the answer
[12:44] <theadmin> angs: Note that vim is... difficult to learn so you might not want it
[12:44] <n105> hello i have on the screen resolution only 1024x768 and 800x600, how can i have more??
[12:44] <graingert_ufo> brontosaurusrex: I'm registered
[12:44] <graingert_ufo> graingert_ufo: !whois graingert_ufo
[12:44] <graingert_ufo> gribble: Thomas Grainger (~graingert@unaffiliated/graingert) has been on server lindbohm.freenode.net since 02:45 AM, June 25, 2012 (idle for 0 seconds) and is on #bitcoin.
[12:44] <graingert_ufo> I even have a host mask
[12:44] <ikonia> graingert_ufo: which channel are you trying to talk in ?
[12:44] <Somelauw> When running aptitude in interactive mode, it suggests me to remove about 246 packages. I would ask someone to double check these suggestions, but I don't know how to pastebin this list.
[12:44] <graingert_ufo> ikonia: #apache
[12:44] <ikonia> graingert_ufo: fyi: #freenode is the channel for help
[12:45] <ikonia> graingert_ufo: I just told you the channel is #httpd
[12:45] <asdkFEArr> #apache
[12:45] <graingert_ufo> IC
[12:45] <n105> hello i have on the screen resolution only 1024x768 and 800x600, how can i have more??
[12:45] <graingert_ufo> do you know why I'm muted in #apache
[12:45] <graingert_ufo> n105: what's your graphics (card / drivers)
[12:45] <ikonia> graingert_ufo: #freenode is the channel for help on the freenode network
[12:45] <ikonia> graingert_ufo: this channel is ubuntu support
[12:45] <fidel> n105: depends in the first place in your gfx, display & driver
[12:45] <theadmin> n105: Graphic drivers.
[12:45] <graingert_ufo> ikonia: k
[12:46] <AlRazi> i know it's a bit off-topic, but the ffmpeg room is dead, can i ask an ffmpeg related question ?
[12:46] <PenguinCSC> hey all
[12:46] <galacticboy> Hi is it possible to install synaptic package manager offline in ubuntu 12.04?
[12:46] <graingert_ufo> !question | AlRazi
[12:46] <theadmin> galacticboy: Installing software offline is generally... well... difficult.
[12:46] <AlRazi> !patience
[12:46] <n105> VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
[12:46] <theadmin> galacticboy: It is possible though -- you just need the .deb and all the dependencies
[12:47] <AlRazi> I am trying to convert mp3 -> aac+, the resulting file has 7000+ hours duration on itunes, i tried running qt-faststart on it but to no avail, I tried using ffmpeg to produce a wav file, and then convert the wav file to m4a using faac, it works fine, but faac doesn't support HE-AAC
[12:47] <n105> graingert_ufo:fidel:theadmin
[12:47] <n105> VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
[12:47] <graingert_ufo> n105: w00t nvida
[12:47] <theadmin> n105: Open the "Hardware drivers" tool, and install the nvidia driver (if I recall right, the package name is "nvidia-current")
[12:48] <morri> guiess that opne is a bit younger than mine
[12:48] <galacticboy> So linux is not for offline work?
[12:48] <theadmin> galacticboy: Well, you can work offline, but software management is generally difficult to do offline, and that's the same in any OS.
[12:49] <talayBABA> n105:if i were u, take it nvidia driver, its offical site for linux and setup
[12:49] <graingert_ufo> talayBABA: n105 no don't use the nvidia site
[12:49] <n105> talayBABA: why not only use nvidia-current
[12:49] <PenguinCSC> I have an nVidia card with HDMI connected to my TV. In the rare occasion I boot into Windows and watch a video, the audio plays through the TV speakers, but when on Ubuntu 12.04 it plays through the computer speakers. Any way to fix that? no audio settings on the nVidia Settings tool...
[12:50] <graingert_ufo> n105: have you used jockey-gtk ?
[12:50] <Kingsy> guys, how do you restart samba on ubuntu? /etc/init.d/ doesnt contain anything that looks like samba imo. Like smbd isnt there.. samba isnt there.. whats it called?
[12:50] <galacticboy> But why offline installation is easy in windows and not on linux?
[12:50] <graingert_ufo> n105: then used nvidia-settings
[12:50] <talayBABA> couse nvdia current not enough good i think .
[12:50] <n105> graingert_ufo: i havn't use any thing, that's new install of 12.04
[12:50] <graingert_ufo> galacticboy: grab a local mirror of the apache
[12:50] <graingert_ufo> apache?!
[12:50] <graingert_ufo> the package repos
[12:50] <peetaur> Kingsy: grep -iE "smb|samba" /etc/init.d/*
[12:51] <talayBABA> maybe 1 or 2 days later you can see your machine is getting hotter
[12:51] <graingert_ufo> n105: yeah use jockey-gtk to install your nvidia drivers of choice
[12:51] <galacticboy> After that?
[12:51] <theadmin> galacticboy: Just mirror the repos then. There are many ways to handle offline installation. But what's the point of having a computer that's not connected to the Internet anyway? That's always confused me :/
[12:51] <graingert_ufo> n105: then use nvidia-settings to do stuff
[12:51] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:51] <graingert_ufo> galacticboy: point your computer at that mirror
[12:52] <Varazir> Is there a way to turn off MOTD for one user ?
[12:52] <graingert_ufo> galacticboy: an apt cacher on your lan is a good plan
[12:52] <graingert_ufo> if you have a bunch 'o boxes
[12:52] <galacticboy> I mean here i have many internet service provider without linux software client. So i need to work offline in linux.
[12:52] <newer_> help, who can help me  how to install lower version gcc (4.1.0)in ubuntu 11.10?
[12:53] <Somelauw> When running aptitude in interactive mode, it suggests me to remove about 246 packages. I would ask someone to double check these suggestions, but I don't know how to pastebin this list.
[12:53] <BluesKaj> galacticboy, linux software client ? you don't need any special software , just an NIC to a router/modem
[12:53] <talayBABA> newr_: why do u want this ?
[12:53] <theadmin> galacticboy: You don't need any specific software to connect to the internet :/
[12:53] <galacticboy> What is apt cacher?
[12:54] <Kingsy> peetaur: I actually managed to restart it with "sudo restart smbd" however the folder I shared still doesnt seem to show up across the network
[12:54] <beatusbeat> In Firefox (13.0.1) a few letters or characters are not fully represented. The problem exists even in other programs (LibreOffice, Thunderbird). I am using Ubuntu 11.10. Would be glad if someone could help me. The german ubuntuuser forum and Google did not help. Here's a screenshot of the problem: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21410646/Zeichenproblem.png
[12:55] <newer_> I have to do a  hw, about pintos,  the hight gcc version can not compile it. so....
[12:55] <galacticboy> NIC?
[12:55] <theadmin> newer_: Downgrading is not supported here. If gcc doesn't compile your code, this generally means something's wrong with the code?
[12:56] <acicula> when using the ipv6 privacy extensions is there a system event somewhere (dbus,syslog, etc) that i can monitor for?
[12:56] <graingert_ufo> is https://wiki.canonical.com/ broken for everyone else
[12:56] <theadmin> graingert_ufo: It's up but I am not "allowed to view this page"
[12:56] <BluesKaj> galacticboy, Network Interface card/connection
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> graingert_ufo  same here
[12:56] <graingert_ufo> theadmin: I don't get "not allowed" though
[12:57] <newer_> no, no, our TA  let me install fedora 7 with the gcc-4.1.2, but i don't like to do it
[12:57] <graingert_ufo> sigh
[12:57] <BluesKaj> galacticboy, like ethernet
[12:58] <peetaur> graingert_ufo: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/wiki.canonical.com
[12:58] <graingert_ufo> peetaur: it's not down
[12:58] <graingert_ufo> it's broken
[12:58] <Kingsy> peetaur: hhmmm actually I still cant find it to restart it.. that grep doesnt return any "smbd" files
[12:58] <Kingsy> peetaur: just smbfs
[12:58] <peetaur> graingert_ufo. hmmmm oh but it doesn't work with https...
[12:58] <peetaur> ok
[12:58] <graingert_ufo> hmmm
[12:58] <morri> [   63.132051] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Load detected on head A
[12:58] <morri> [   82.651478] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Load detected on head A
[12:58] <morri> [   82.939491] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Load detected on head A
[12:58] <morri> [   84.619326] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Load detected on head A
[12:58] <morri> [  103.728158] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Load detected on head A
[12:58] <FloodBot1> morri: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:58] <morri> [  111.119427] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Load detected on head A
[12:59] <galacticboy> Ok i understood that you didn't understand me. The client software is windows only. Network it will connect where should i enter username and password? It's not dhcp.
[12:59] <BluesKaj> what client software , galacticboy ?
[13:00] <galacticboy> ISP CLIENT.
[13:00] <Kingsy> peetaur: samba: unrecognized service
[13:00] <Pici> graingert_ufo: I was under the impression that their wiki was private.
[13:01] <graingert_ufo> Pici: that would be expected, but not broken
[13:01] <AlRazi> I am trying to convert mp3 -> aac+, the resulting file has 7000+ hours duration on itunes, i tried running qt-faststart on it but to no avail, I tried using ffmpeg to produce a wav file, and then convert the wav file to m4a using faac, it works fine, but faac doesn't support HE-AAC
[13:01] <galacticboy> I mean Internet service provides client.
[13:02] <newer_> i want to present my error code, where i can paste
[13:02] <Sidewinder1> Sounds like AOL.
[13:02] <Pici> newer_: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> AlRazi  technically, that question may be for this channel, but better ask in #ubuntustudio, as it is more multimedia oriented
[13:02] <newer_> thanks
[13:02] <BluesKaj> galacticboy, how do you know it's windows only , or are you assuming an ordinary ethernet connection won't work, just because there's a linux OS it won't connect thru the ISP
[13:03] <theadmin> AlRazi: You may have luck with winff (ffmpeg frontend, easy to use)
[13:04] <SirEarl> why does the iso want to run wubi?
[13:04] <SirEarl> wubi doesn't open for me
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> wubi :(
[13:05] <SirEarl> I tried some other way, but that didn't work either
[13:05] <newer_> here is my error info when i make it  --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060707/
[13:05] <SirEarl> uniboot or something like that
[13:05] <slobro> hi, does someone know a good list of laptops / desktop parts that have support in ubuntu?
[13:06] <galacticboy> I know it's connecting to ethernet but in order to connect to the internet i need to authenticate via client software which is only in windows.
[13:06] <BluesKaj> galacticboy, are you addressing me , if so use my nick pls
[13:07] <Kingsy> this is stupid.. how do you restart samba in ubuntu?
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> slobro  http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/
[13:07] <BluesKaj> i'm in sveral chat's at once , galacticboy
[13:07] <Kingsy> its not in /etc/init.d/
[13:07] <galacticboy> Ok sorry i'm using my mobile blue sky.
[13:07] <slobro> MonkeyDust: thanks. :)
[13:07] <graingert_ufo> galacticboy: have you got a router
[13:07] <newer_> HELP PLEASE.
[13:08] <theadmin> Kingsy: Check /etc/init -- /etc/init.d/ is for backwards-compatibility and not too used.
[13:08] <galacticboy> Yes!
[13:08] <graingert_ufo> !patience | newer_
[13:08] <theadmin> Kingsy: See http://upstart.ubuntu.com for details as to why.
[13:08] <graingert_ufo> newer_: please paste in english
[13:08] <Kingsy> theadmin: /etc/init/ is just full on conf files
[13:09] <AlRazi> theadmin, thanks, but i'm looking to streamline the process ( command line based )
[13:09] <Tashiqi> Hi
[13:09] <theadmin> Kingsy: Right, find the name of the .conf file for Samba and use "sudo service name-of-that-conf-file restart"
[13:09] <BluesKaj> galacticboy, what about mac users , how do they connect using your ISP
[13:09] <BluesKaj> ?
[13:09] <theadmin> Kingsy: Except without the .conf
[13:10] <galacticboy> Ok guys bye. i think i need to hack it in order to connect to the internet!
[13:10] <Kingsy> theadmin: samba isnt there either..
[13:10] <galacticboy> No mac only windows.
[13:10] <Kingsy> is it possible to not have it installed but /etc/samba/smb.conf exists?
[13:11] <theadmin> Kingsy: Not sure on that one.
[13:11] <galacticboy> Thanks for the help. Bye. :)
[13:11] <BluesKaj> galacticboy, that wouldn't be allows here , I think someone isn't telling you the truth
[13:11] <BluesKaj> allowed rather
[13:13] <Kingsy> ok that worked.. it wasnt installed..
[13:13] <Kingsy> WTF
[13:13] <Kingsy> heh
[13:13] <SirEarl> what's the easiest way to install ubuntu?
[13:13] <theadmin> SirEarl: I'd say from a CD.
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> !install| SirEarl
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> SirEarl  and 'easiest' depends partly on how technically skilled you are
[13:14] <SirEarl> not technically skilled at all
[13:15] <Elvano> Hey lot. I'm trying to expand my Ubuntu partition. But in GParted it does not display the free space adjacent to the Ubuntu partition. Can this be a problem?
[13:15] <rumpe1> SirEarl, the easiest way is to let somebody else do the job :D
[13:15] <SirEarl> haha
[13:16] <Elvano> The easiest way I'd say is a USB install, because you do not neec to burn a disc
[13:16] <Elvano> other than that does the install point itself out
[13:16] <Elvano> Please do not ming my gramatic errors
[13:16] <newer_> sorry, i forgot it , this is the English error,--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060719/
[13:16] <rumpe1> Elvano, ? ... it doesn't show free space? Usually the differentiation between primary and extended partitions lead to some confusion when trying to increase the size of a partition.
[13:16] <SirEarl> I tried from disc, but it just stops
[13:17] <Elvano> rumpe1: let me bring up GParted to see what exactly it says
[13:17] <rumpe1> Elvano, a screenshot and some data would be helpful
[13:18] <rumpe1> Elvano, data = stuff, other applications do say about the partition table (fdisk, parted, ..)
[13:18] <Sidewinder1> SirEarl, Did you md5sum the ISO prior to burning the disk, at the slowest speed?
[13:18] <Saby74> !list
[13:19] <nUwb> Hello everyone. Where can i find a good chunk of programming exercises that I can find on the web?
[13:19] <Saby74> list!
[13:19] <theadmin> nUwb: Depends on the language you're studying.
[13:19] <theadmin> Saby74: Stop this. This is a support channel, not anyplace where !list would have any meaning.
[13:19] <nUwb> theadmin: I managed to get my hands on a c programming book
[13:19] <Sidewinder1> How did I know that he was from Italy?
[13:20] <theadmin> nUwb: If you're just getting started, I suggest C and Perl (if you're going imperative) or Haskell (if you're going functional)
[13:20] <Elvano> rumpe1: The thing is just that I noticed that GParted does not display My ubuntu partition next to an "unallocated" partition.
[13:20] <theadmin> Sidewinder1: The .it at the end of the hostname, maybe?
[13:20] <Sidewinder1> ;-)
[13:20] <morri> btw what does  it mean if the dmesg tells "Load detected on head A" repeatedly
[13:21] <theadmin> nUwb: Not sure about C, but perl.org and haskell.org both have a ton of tutorials on them :)
[13:21] <Elvano> rumpe1: And I don't know if this visual mean anything when I try to expand my ubuntu partition
[13:21] <nUwb> theadmin: Perl and Haskell, got it.
[13:21] <Sidewinder1> theadmin, But, I 'knew' , before I checked.
[13:21] <nUwb> theadmin: thanks
[13:21] <theadmin> nUwb: Note: Haskell isn't programming in the... common sense, it's well... Functional languages are just "different". You may feel it's weird.
[13:22] <rumpe1> Elvano, what exactly is your problem? There is another partition in between? I need to know the exact partition layout.
[13:22] <nUwb> theadmin: well, how different is it compared to perl?
[13:22] <theadmin> nUwb: We're getting offtopic :P PM me if you want to continue this discussion, please. This isn't Ubuntu-related.
[13:23] <Elvano> rumpe1: Yes, it displays two partitions in between of which one I'd certainly like to keep
[13:23] <SkippersBoss> SirEarl, which version are you trying to install on what type of machine
[13:23] <nUwb> theadmin: o.k., perl.org and haskell.org is good enough, thanks again
[13:23] <SirEarl> 12.04
[13:23] <SirEarl> windows 7 currently installed
[13:23] <joachibl> nUwb: note that some would say that perl is an odd choice these days and would suggest python instead.
[13:23] <theadmin> nUwb: Not a problem.
[13:23] <SirEarl> both 64 bit
[13:24] <nUwb> joachibl: lol, I'm starting to notice that there a whole lot of "languages" to learn
[13:24] <rumpe1> Elvano, ah, ok... you want to add the unallocated space to another partition, which is not direclty aligned to it? ... Then you need a filesystem, that allows something like that. Ext-filesystems alone won't allow that.
[13:25] <rumpe1> Elvano, you need more something like LVM or btrfs I guess
[13:25] <nishttal2> hi there... does anyone know of a music player on Ubuntu that can also connect to Pandora radio?
[13:25] <nUwb> joachibl: thanks for the suggestion.
[13:25] <rumpe1> Elvano, and either way: you can't do that in the partition manager itself but on a "higher level" like a filesystem
[13:25] <SkippersBoss> SirEarl onwhat machine. cpu,memory/graphics
[13:27] <SirEarl> intel i7 3.07ghz
[13:27] <SirEarl> to be honest, I forgot how much memory and what graphics card
[13:27] <SkippersBoss> aha
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> nishttal2  does pandora have a streaing url?
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> streaming*
[13:28] <Elvano> Wouldn't it be easier to clone my existing ubuntu partition to the unallocated space using clonezilla? Either way it shall increase my Ubuntu partition space drasticly. @ rumpe1
[13:28] <SirEarl> but it's decent enough to run SW:TOR smoothly
[13:28] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: Pandora isn't a typical radio, it's a radio station you build yourself, and no, they don't offer such streaming.
[13:28] <SkippersBoss> Sir Earl. graphics card could be crucial
[13:28] <nishttal2> MonkeyDust, i doubt it.. its a account based service
[13:28] <SirEarl> let me try to find it
[13:28] <Elvano> Or would that give issues with the boot? @ rumpe1
[13:29] <nishttal2> theadmin, MonkeyDust i am surprised bcoz now you can even get pandora in your car..
[13:29] <SirEarl> nvidia geforce GTX 550 Ti, ATI Radeon HD 5400 series
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> nishttal2  try parking your car in the living room then
[13:29] <aithox> hello, i want to ask about the theme .
[13:29] <SkippersBoss> SirEarl, There are many reasons why live CD stops running.
[13:30] <rumpe1> Elvano, hmm... that could maybe lead to some problems. I usually do such a transfer by 1) creating a new partition (ext4?), 2) copy the stuff from the root partition over to the new partition, 3) correct the fstab-entries on the new partition and 4) chroot into the new partition and update grub. That's about it.
[13:31] <nishttal2> MonkeyDust, :-p
[13:31] <SirEarl> ok
[13:31] <SirEarl> I just made a boot USB
[13:31] <SkippersBoss> have you tried to use the alternative install. Preferably from USB stick
[13:31] <SkippersBoss> :-)
[13:31] <aithox> hello, where can i ask about themeing?
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> !themes| aithox start here
[13:32] <angs> how can I install ipk extensioned file?
[13:32] <aithox> MonkeyDust: i want to know how to get more drop shadow radius.
[13:33] <LjL> angs: those are not for Ubuntu
[13:33] <Elvano> I could follow up till step 2 xD @ rumpe1
[13:33] <angs> LjL: hmm ok thanks
[13:33] <theadmin> angs: Uh, that's an iOS Package, it's for iPhones and such...
[13:33] <Krywk> People, I need help with mono.
[13:34] <LjL> theadmin: i think it could be "ipkg", a small packaging system some embedded distributions use
[13:34] <theadmin> LjL: Ah. Never heard of that
[13:35] <n105> i'm back theadmin, i have installed nvidia-setting, when i start it he told me to run nvidia-xconfig as root and then restart X
[13:35] <rumpe1> Elvano, well... maybe that's a great chance to learn how to correct UUIDs in fstab. That's the most important step. You could omit the chroot-step and keep using grub from the "old" partition
[13:35] <n105> i have do it, but it doesn't work
[13:35] <Krywk> I'm trying to run a NET40 application with Mono 2.10. Thing is, the app loads, but crashes right after starting. Here's the output: http://pastebin.com/McgNUyyD
[13:35] <Krywk> Anyone know what's causing the problem?
[13:35] <n105> my only resolution now is 640x480
[13:36] <Elvano> I'm really an Ubuntu and partition newb. And to be honest, changing things on a higher level kinda scares me. Might there be, by chance, any tutorial on this? @ rumpe1
[13:37] <rumpe1> Elvano, there sure is... let me have a look
[13:37] <Friend-60324> ciao
[13:37] <testi> Is there a Lucid Lynx style desktop for Ubuntu 12.04?
[13:37] <Friend-60324> !list
[13:38] <n105> theadmin
[13:38] <zykotick9> !notunity | testi
[13:38] <vdz> Hey...I'm having a bit of trouble installing drivers for my NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M under Ubuntu 12.04. The 'additional drivers' window is completely blank: http://i.imgur.com/1SnDQ.jpg
[13:38] <theadmin> n105: You do have nvidia-current installed, right?
[13:39] <rymate1234> yo
[13:39] <rymate1234> mah sound ain't working
[13:39] <n105> theadmin yes
[13:39] <n105> theadmin: and i have generate an xorg.conf with nvidia-xconf
[13:40] <rumpe1> Elvano, that looks promising: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MovingLinuxPartition
[13:41] <testi> zykotick9, thanks I know the gnome-panel trick, but it looks just like some gnome2 leftovers.. is there an elaborated environment with a system/settings menue integrated into the panel rather than a all-in-one tool?
[13:41] <theadmin> n105: Well, then run the NVidia Settings tool which is in your menus to select resolutions and such
[13:41] <theadmin> testi: There is Xfce, which feels a lot like Gnome2. There's also MATE, which IS gnome2.
[13:41] <zykotick9> testi: if you don't like fallback, then xfce is probably the next closest gnome2
[13:41] <n105> when i run  NVidia Settings tool he told me to run nvidia-xconfig
[13:42] <theadmin> n105: Then do that. And reboot.
[13:42] <n105> theadmin: i have do it
[13:42] <Krywk> zykotick9, isn't just changing the session to GNOME Classic faster?
[13:42] <zykotick9> n105: did you using sudo with nvidia-xconfig?
[13:42] <n105> it seem to be that nvidia driver is not in use, how can i make it in use
[13:43] <n105> zykotick9: yes
[13:43] <zykotick9> n105: from terminal "ls /etc/X11/"
[13:43] <testi> zykotick9, okay i give xfce a try. theadmin I tried MATE, but there I don't get Ambiance to display properly. Some part of the top panel remains white. Do you know how to fix that?
[13:43] <zykotick9> n105: verify that xorg.conf is present
[13:43] <n105> yes
[13:43] <theadmin> testi: Hm, no, I never tried Mate on Ubuntu, only on ArchLinux, sorry
[13:43] <n105> zykotick9: i have say that befor
[13:44] <newer_> help!!!  I have to manual install gcc-4.1.2(a lower version of gcc) in ubuntu 11.10 ,  but the are some errors when i make it, -->>http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060719/
[13:44] <newer_> i sorry to repeat it
[13:45] <rumpe1> Elvano, it could be a bit easier, when you do all that, update your old grub while still running your old system. This way the old grub should detect the new system on the new partition, so you could use regular boot to boot into that. And _then_ execute grub-install on the new system. Maybe easier than fiddling around with grub.cfg or chroot.
[13:45] <n105> zykotick9:theadmin: do you how can i change a driver
[13:45] <Elvano> Bookmarked it and mailed it to myself. I'm going to try this as soon I'm home again and have my USB-key (as I hope resquecd works with USB as well). @ rumpe1
[13:45] <n105> because when i run additional driver, it show that nvidia driver is not in use
[13:45] <mogaj> i am unable to mount Transcend external dvd drive on my ubuntu lenovo laptop .... how should i mount it?
[13:46] <theadmin> n105: Then choose it and click "Activate"...
[13:46] <Elvano> So I should take the Grub steps before I start the rest? @ rumpe1
[13:46] <morri> I only have xorg.config.failsafe
[13:46] <theadmin> mogaj: Something along the lines of "mount /dev/sr0 /mnt"
[13:46] <n105> theadmin: lol if i found i will not ask you
[13:47] <theadmin> mogaj: Or rather, "mount -o loop,ro /dev/sr0 /mnt", but that's just details.
[13:47] <rumpe1> Elvano, first you should read the article to understand, what exactly is needed for the move. As I said: you could keep the old system with the old grub for a while to boot into the new system. So it's the last step.
[13:48] <mogaj> theadmin : am getting this message "/dev/sr0: No medium found"
[13:48] <theadmin> mogaj: Well, you need to insert something into the drive before you can mount it
[13:48] <Elvano> I wasn't planning on removing that partition nor the reference in the grub before I had a fully working clone xD @ rumpe1
[13:49] <zykotick9> mogaj: do you have a built in optical drive as well?  try /dev/sr1 if you do.
[13:49] <usr13> mogaj: ls -l /dev/sr0
[13:49] <vampirnata> I'm mounting a USB hard disk at boot with the following line in my fstab: UUID=b53b95d7-f12a-4dbd-b449-704c6519ee76 /media/data1  ext4    errors=remount-ro 0     1 -- Is this correct or are there better options?
[13:49] <theadmin> zykotick9: Oh, good catch
[13:49] <rumpe1> Elvano, you could keep it as a fallback-system :)
[13:50] <theadmin> vampirnata: That looks good to me.
[13:50] <vampirnata> theadmin: Great, thank you :) I was worried I was using an option I was not supposed to be.
[13:51] <theadmin> vampirnata: On the other hand, I don't see why you'd "remount-ro" it if it's external, but that's all up to you
[13:51] <mogaj> usr13 : i got this message "brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 Jun 26 19:04 /dev/sr0"  .... zykotick9: i have a built in optical drive when used your suggestion i still got "/dev/sr1: No medium found"
[13:51] <theadmin> mogaj: Do you have a disk inside the drive?
[13:51] <theadmin> s/k/c/
[13:51] <zykotick9> mogaj: and what type of disk?  regular datacd?
[13:52] <mogaj> theadmin: am unable to eject the case to insert disk
[13:52] <vampirnata> theadmin: i have some programs writing to the disk periodically and didn't want them to write if there are errors on the disk, i'd rather the scripts fail
[13:52] <Elvano> Thanks for the help. I hope I'll be able to make it work =p @ rumpe1
[13:52] <usr13> mogaj: /dev/sr0 looks correct.  Do you have a [readable] disk in it?
[13:52] <theadmin> mogaj: Well, that's your problem, you need to insert a disc before you can mount it
[13:52] <theadmin> mogaj: To eject it, use "eject /dev/sr1".
[13:53] <theadmin> mogaj: Note that all of the above commands (both the mount and the eject) need to be ran as root (with sudo)
[13:53] <usr13> theadmin: mogaj or just eject
[13:53] <theadmin> vampirnata: Ah, makes sense then.
[13:53] <zykotick9> usr13: mogaj has 2 optical drives...
[13:53] <usr13> theadmin: eject will prolly work as user.
[13:53] <mogaj> theadmin: how can i insert disk without opening the tray? how can i eject without mounting .... i used all the above commads as root
[13:54] <usr13> zykotick9: that's quite possible.
[13:54] <vampirnata> usr13: only if the user is part of the cdrom group i think
[13:54] <usr13> mogaj: Do you have 2 cdrom drives?
[13:54] <usr13> vampirnata: Which is usually the case.
[13:54] <theadmin> mogaj: sudo eject /dev/sr1, just as I said -- you don't need to mount it to eject.
[13:54] <Elvano> I'm a bit of a Java (and other) programmer in training and I was wondering how I can compile my files so I can run them from linux. @ theadmin and others
[13:54] <vampirnata> usr13: sure, but assumption is the... :)
[13:54] <theadmin> Elvano: Java compiles to .jar which is universal.
[13:55] <mogaj> utheadmin : eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
[13:55] <usr13> vampirnata: Well, mogaj could find out:  grep cdrom /etc/group
[13:55] <mogaj> usr13 : yes i have an internal dvd drive for my laptop
[13:56] <usr13> mogaj: I see
[13:56] <theadmin> Elvano: (well, it doesn't exactly "compile" to jar, but you get my point)
[13:56] <mogaj> usr13 : cdrom:x:24:eka is the result of your command
[13:56] <theadmin> Elvano: As for "others" -- that depends on the language.
[13:56] <usr13> mogaj: The internal one should be /dev/sd0
[13:57] <usr13> mogaj: so eka is your user name?
[13:57] <mogaj> usr13 : yes
[13:57] <theadmin> usr13: Uh, /dev/sd? I don't think so. /dev/sr0 is more likely.
[13:57] <zykotick9> usr13: sd0?  what?
[13:57] <rsv> hi, i formatted my usb disk accidently is it possible to recover the data
[13:57] <usr13> mogaj: Good, then you will be able to eject /dev/sr0 as user
[13:57] <root_> hi
[13:58] <usr13> sd0 was typo. should have been sr0
[13:58] <philinux> rsv: maybe. look up photorec from the testdisk suite
[13:58] <Elvano> Well ubuntu doesn't like my jar-files as it treats it like an archive @ theadmin
[13:58] <root_> philinux hi
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> rsv  there's also scalpel
[13:58] <mogaj> usr13: when i used "eject /dev/sr0" command my internal dvd ejected not my external one
[13:59] <root_> hi moga
[13:59] <usr13> mogaj: Correct.  (as I said before, /dev/sr0 will be the internal one)
[13:59] <smilyy> gfxcard: radeon 3870, installed default system xubuntu, after boot black/blue screen = hangs, booted with nomodeset xdriver=vesa got same result
[13:59] <smilyy> any idea?
[14:00] <sacarlson> Elvano: maybe try java yourjavaprogramname
[14:00] <mogaj> usr13: i want to make my external one to work
[14:00] <usr13> mogaj: ls -l /dev/sr1
[14:00] <zykotick9> sacarlson: isn't it "java -jar foo.jar" (i certainly could be wrong, i don't use java)
[14:01] <sacarlson> zykotick9: not if this is correct http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=713622
[14:02] <mogaj> usr13 : The result of above command "brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 1 Jun 26 19:09 /dev/sr1"
[14:03] <theadmin> Elvano: java -jar foo.jar, make sure to have Java installed.
[14:03] <sacarlson> zykotick9: oh your correct if the java program is a jar file http://alexsleat.co.uk/2010/06/07/howto-run-jar-files-in-ubuntu/
[14:03] <theadmin> Elvano: The file associations in Ubuntu by default are a bit messy, I'm not sure why jars are associated with file-roller :/
[14:04] <usr13> mogaj: Then   eject /dev/sr1  should eject the other one.
[14:04] <mogaj> usr13: "eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument"
[14:05] <Elvano> The java -jar did the trick. Without the -jar it still opens as an archive. Thanks alot. @ theadmin , sacarlson
[14:05] <usr13> mogaj: Hummmm.....
[14:06] <sacarlson> Elvano: how quickly I foget
[14:07] <usr13> magentar: pastebinit /proc/scsi/scsi
[14:07] <usr13> and send resulting url
[14:07] <Tzeny> hi
[14:07] <studio> Guys, I just wiped windows off of this old desktop and installed lucid.  I have a 200 gig hdd that I put linux on, and an 85 gig hdd that was full of music.  gparted shows the second drive as 31 gigs, and with a 7 gig partition of unknown type.  I can't access it in any way.  How do I fix?
[14:08] <usr13> mogaj: pastebinit /proc/scsi/scsi
[14:08] <usr13> mogaj: or just look at it and see:  cat /proc/scsi/scsi
[14:08] <studio> I just backed that drive up before I wiped windows.  I know it is bigger than that.  I don't mind formatting it, but I want to be able to use its full size.
[14:09] <usr13> studio: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit   #Let's have a look, see what you have
[14:10] <usr13> studio: send resulting url
[14:11] <usr13> studio: mount  #Will tell you what is mounted now.
[14:13] <MoPac> Hello all -- I have a network configuration question.  I regularly need to connect to one static IP wired network and one DHCP one. On my Win7 box, I run netsh batch tasks on event (network connect, condition network of a certain name available) to change the adapter settings.  On Ubuntu: what do?
[14:14] <usr13> MoPac: ifconfig
[14:14] <nibbier> MoPac, its very easy. right click connection manager and configure a static configuration. then you can swith easily between "auto eth0" and "what ever name you gave befoer"
[14:14] <sacarlson> MoPac: with wicd gui you can setup multi profiles with different settings
[14:14] <MoPac> nibbier: So it will always have to be a manual switch rather than having the machine recognize a network name?
[14:15] <nibbier> MoPac, how do you recognize a network name? i mean of course you can script something that probes for IPs etc....
[14:15] <usr13> MoPac: As sacarlson suggests, if you do not like the way network-manager handles your Network Interfaces, you can install wicd and use it instead.
[14:15] <nibbier> MoPac, even: *what is* a network name?
[14:16] <mogaj> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060807/
[14:16] <studio> usr13, everything except /dev/sdb is mounted.
[14:16] <jonas-k> hi.. I cant install  any 64 bit os in virtualbox  jus 32 bits   I@m   use intel i5  cpu... I did all configuration  but nothing
[14:17] <usr13> studio: What size is sdb?
[14:17] <theadmin> jonas-k: Is your host OS (the main one) 64-bit? If not, it will be impossible.
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> jonas-k  i havent managed to do it either, better install 32bit
[14:17] <studio> sda1, 5, and 4 (/, /home, swap) are fine, but sdb is showing as 31.5 g when I know it's 85 g.
[14:17] <jonas-k> ye 64 main  ...
[14:17] <zykotick9> theadmin: ahh, not quite - cpu requires virtualization support for it to work though
[14:17] <theadmin> zykotick9: ?
[14:17] <studio> and it only had one ntfs partition, and was the full size, but now it has a 7 gig unknown partition.
[14:17] <zykotick9> jonas-k: do you get coloured output from "egrep '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo --color=always"
[14:17] <studio> and 23 gigs unallocated
[14:17] <usr13> mogaj: So  DVD RW  is the external one?
[14:18] <jonas-k> zyko  ok i'll try
[14:18] <jonas-k> cheers mate
[14:19] <studio> usr13, the drive is showing an unknown partition type.  I can't mount it.  And i don't want to format it while it says it's a 32 g drive when I know it's way bigger.
[14:19] <usr13> mogaj: sudo mount /dev/sr1 /mnt   #Tell us if you see errors, or not.
[14:19] <mogaj> usr13:   "Vendor: TS8XDVDR Model: Transcend"   is the external one
[14:19] <vampirnata> studio: you don't have a USB stick plugged in perhaps?
[14:19] <usr13> studio: What type of filesystem is on it?
[14:19] <studio> nope
[14:20] <studio> It was NTFS.
[14:20] <studio> It's not showing up right in gparted, tho
[14:20] <mogaj> usr13: mount: no medium found on /dev/sr1
[14:20] <usr13> studio: show us what fdisk says about it.
[14:20] <Squintz> I'm trying to connect to my USRP2 (software defined radio) through a wired ethernet connection. I'm on Ubuntu 12.04. When I set the ip using sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.10.1 I get a connection for about 20 seconds and then it disconnects. Any idea why this is happening?
[14:21] <usr13> studio: fdisk -l | pastebinit
[14:21] <usr13> studio: and send resulting URL
[14:21] <MoPac> nibbier: usr13: "Network name" may be just a misunderstanding by me of how Windows appears to differentiate between wired networks on connect.
[14:21] <usr13> mogaj: Try another disk
[14:21] <genii-around> studio: Are you sure that unknown partition isn't some system restore hidden partition that a lot of machines use when they come pre-installed with the MS stuff tucked away someplace ?
[14:21] <mogaj> usr13 : another disk?
[14:22] <usr13> mogaj: Do you have a disk in it now?
[14:22] <helpcrypto> hello
[14:22] <sacarlson> Squintz: you would want to eather setup your static ip with network-manager or uninstall it
[14:22] <helpcrypto> i think i have found a bug, but would like to ask in here first
[14:22] <Squintz> ok
[14:22] <studio> genii-around, Yes, I'm sure.
[14:22] <sacarlson> Squintz: other wise it will take control of ip address at periodic periods
[14:22] <studio> I've seen lots of those, and even changed flags to make them useable.
[14:22] <mogaj> usr13 ; ther is no disk because i am not able to eject it
[14:23] <studio> This was a standard HDD used as a D:\ drive in windows for storing music.
[14:23] <usr13> mogaj: There is no button?
[14:23] <Squintz> thanks sacarlson
[14:23] <studio> I'm installing pastebinit atm.  Will have that up for you in a min.
[14:23] <usr13> mogaj: You certainly will not be able to mount it if there is no disk in it.
[14:23] <mogaj> usr13: i used the button to eject but it did not work
[14:23] <sacarlson> Squintz: cool that software radio I've read about it
[14:23] <helpcrypto> a library distributed in firefox (usr/lib/firefox/softokn3.so) have a broken dependency (´ldd´ shows a not found for libmozsquilte3.so). Asking on mozilla they say its a package mantainer issue. where/how i should report the bug?
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> helpcrypto  is it from a PPA?
[14:24] <Crome_> Ciao
[14:24] <helpcrypto> yes
[14:24] <zykotick9> ignarps: Crome_
[14:24] <Crome_> join #ubuntu-it
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> helpcrypto  then contact the PPA maintainer
[14:24] <studio> Guys, fdisk -l gives me nothing.
[14:24] <helpcrypto> hold a sec
[14:25] <helpcrypto> ppa=repo, right?
[14:25] <Pici> helpcrypto: Which ppa?
[14:25] <studio> usr13, fdisk isn't working lol.
[14:25] <helpcrypto> its the firefox
[14:25] <fidel> !ppa > helpcrypto
[14:25] <usr13> studio: sudo fdisk -l
[14:25] <genii-around> studio: I guess you weren't using any compression software on the MS side like Stacker or DoubleSpace? They use a layout very similar to that as well.
[14:25] <helpcrypto> its not a ppa
[14:25] <helpcrypto> its FIREFOX
[14:25] <Pici> helpcrypto: What does apt-cache policy firefox say?
[14:26] <helpcrypto> no idea what u talking about :P
[14:26] <mogaj> ur13: finally it worked ... thankyou
[14:26] <genii-around> studio: ( and the 50% size it shows sort of matches that )
[14:26] <usr13> mogaj: NP
[14:26] <studio> http://pastebin.com/fMtd4mfN
[14:26] <Pici> helpcrypto: I'm trying to find out what version of firefox you have installed, and therefore where to report the problem.
[14:26] <helpcrypto> ubuntu12, firefox 13
[14:26] <helpcrypto> *12.04
[14:27] <helpcrypto> but also happens in firefox 12
[14:27] <Crome_> Hello
[14:27] <studio> hmm, I think the drive had the 'compress to save space' option enabled, but I have all my windows drives compressed, and they show up on other xp/bodhi systems, genii-around
[14:27] <studio> usr13, http://pastebin.com/fMtd4mfN
[14:28] <Pici> helpcrypto: you can report the bug on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/
[14:28] <usr13> studio: EZ-Drive, is that it?
[14:28] <helpcrypto> thx pici
[14:28] <hakin9> Hello, trying to locate a version of 'free' that has the -h option.
[14:28] <usr13> studio: I would just mount it and see whats there.
[14:29] <usr13> studio: What type of drive is it?
[14:29] <studio> EZ-drive?
[14:29] <usr13> studio: Yea, that is what it says:  http://pastebin.com/fMtd4mfN
[14:30] <genii-around> usr13: I think that's the case, windows was reporting 80-some-odd but the drive is physically what gparted says
[14:30] <Crome_> HI
[14:30] <usr13> studio: What type of drive is it?  ide sata usb ....?
[14:30] <studio> IDE, I believe.
[14:30] <studio> It's internal.  Our old D drive for windows.
[14:31] <usr13> genii-around: possibly ....
[14:31] <studio> I've had corruption problems like this with micro s's, but idk much about big drives
[14:31] <studio> sd'd*
[14:31] <studio> sd's*  lol
[14:31] <usr13> genii-around: If that's it, I would suppose it's a 33GB drive.
[14:32] <studio> usr13, I know it's an 85 gig drive.
[14:32] <usr13> studio: Is that it?  sdb ?
[14:32] <studio> yes
[14:33] <usr13> studio: Then mount it.  See what's there.
[14:33] <sacarlson> studio: if after deleteing all the partitions it still shows less than expected might try dd -if /dev/zero  ??? to zero the corrupted partition
[14:33] <usr13> studio: You know what's supposed to be on it. Right?  Mount it and see.
[14:34] <studio> yes, I kno what was on it, but how do I mount it in terminal?
[14:34] <usr13> studio: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ; ls /mnt
[14:35] <studio> u mean sdb1?
[14:35] <usr13> studio: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt ; ls /mnt
[14:35] <genii-around> usr13, studio http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Large-Disk-HOWTO-8.html
[14:35] <usr13> studio: Yes, sorry
[14:35] <reset3x> alpha1 zulu obek trans to #proj21
[14:36] <usr13> genii-around: That's interesting....
[14:36] <studio> must specify file sys type..
[14:36] <usr13> studio: did you see http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Large-Disk-HOWTO-8.html
[14:37] <usr13> studio: genii-around   I've yet to deal with EZ-Drive
[14:37] <studio> yea, I read it.  According to them, I need to recompile my kernel >.<
[14:37] <sacarlson> studio ya as user13: points out in his link  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdx bs=512 count=1
[14:37] <genii-around> usr13: So it looks like bios geometry would show it as 30-whatever but then the OnTrack disk manager remaps it internally, etc
[14:38] <genii-around> studio: Have you tried looking in the bios to see if it's set to Auto, or manually mapped to certain type, etc?
[14:38] <helpcrypto> Pici: reported. Thanks
[14:39] <studio> no, let me reboot and check bios.
[14:39] <studio> brb.
[14:39] <usr13> genii-around: sacarlson Yea, sounds like the easiest thing to do is to just wipe and re-partition
[14:39] <studio> I don't mind wiping the drive.
[14:39] <studio> I backed it up, but i want its full size back.
[14:40] <usr13> studio: As sacarlson points out, you probably just want to wipe it and start over.
[14:40] <studio> And I've heard that if you partition/format a drive while it shows a smaller size that you're stuck with it that way.
[14:40] <studio> as in can't get the original size back.
[14:40] <studio> But I think there are ways to get it to register the full drive again.  Just gotta dig em up, I guess.
[14:41] <dorsk> puddi puddi puddi puddi giga puddi
[14:41] <LostMonk> can I move the launcher?
[14:41] <dorsk> by launcher, you mean the unity-bar thingy?
[14:41] <LostMonk> yeah
[14:41] <usr13> studio: sacarlson genii-around Yea, I don't know about the EZ-Drive thing.  I can't really give any advise. But I doubt that there is not a way to get the full size of the drive usable.
[14:42] <dorsk> it's possible with some tweaks in compiz, but AFAIK, there's no native supported way of moving it in Ubuntu
[14:42] <Kingsy> anyone in here used forked-daap before ?
[14:43] <genii-around> usr13: I had boxes using it before under MS ... you would manually set a type in bios, which looked like some small drive specs. But then the OnTrack takes over the mbr and sort of multiplexes the CHS settings
[14:45] <genii-around> ( this was for motherboards whose bios could not understand drives over certain sizes, etc )
[14:46] <rsv> philinux:  Thanks a lot, testdisk recovery worked!!!
[14:46] <usr13> sacarlson: genii-around  Yea, I looked at fdisk's list of drive types and 55 is indeed "EZ-Drive"
[14:47] <philinux> rsv: nice one
[14:47] <usr13> sacarlson: genii-around I suppose if  he would have specified EZ-Drive as filesystem type, he might have been able to mount it.  Right?
[14:47] <subins2000> Hey
[14:48] <subins2000> fuchs: hey
[14:48] <subins2000> fuchs: i am now running in my old ubuntu
[14:48] <Habib> Hi everyone. in few moment's i'll start ubuntu first time
[14:48] <usr13> genii-around: So you think it's really just a 33G HD?
[14:48] <Falensarano> What's „Ubuntu First time” ?
[14:49] <Habib> means that i'll start it for the first time
[14:49] <Habib> in my life man)))
[14:49] <Falensarano> Aw.
[14:49] <Falensarano> You russian?
[14:49] <Habib> y
[14:50] <Habib> how do u know?
[14:50] <sacarlson> usr13 I guess it's some method to hide partitions or disk space to hide files?
[14:50] <Falensarano> Only slavs use those ")))" as smileys.
[14:50] <subins2000> Habib: So now Ubuntu is installing ?
[14:50] <Habib> i'm not slav man))
[14:50] <Falensarano> But you've said you're russian.
[14:51] <Habib> cos foreighn ppl consider all the ppl living in russia are russians
[14:51] <Falensarano> Aw. Sorry.
[14:51] <Habib> so there are more than 136 nations there
[14:52] <genii-around> usr13: No, I think it's 80-whatever but that BIOS is reporting it as 33 and the old disk manager software was doing the heavy lifting earlier
[14:52] <subins2000> Habib: so what's the time there?
[14:52] <Habib> u from texas?
[14:52] <Habib> it's 10 to 19
[14:52] <LjL> !ot
[14:53] <schnuffle> hi, anyone knows a good channel for some bash questions?
[14:53] <zykotick9> schnuffle: #bash
[14:53] <alankila> nm should retain a database of nicks and calculate a similarity metric in terms of shape, to make best use of the few colors it can
[14:53] <alankila> for instance short nicks composed of similar letters should all have different colors, while it's not a problem if a short and long nick get the same color
[14:53] <schnuffle> damned I joined before being connected to the right server so the channel was empty sorry
[14:54] <alankila> maybe overthinking it, though.
[14:54] <alankila> oh, excuse me, wrong channel.
[14:54] <rymate1234> yo
[14:54] <rymate1234> anyone here use glade?
[14:54] <ikonia> rymate1234: not for many years, but I have done a bit
[14:54] <sacarlson> rymate1234: ya glade is cool
[14:55] <rymate1234> how can I make a dropdown that also has a text input?
[14:55] <rymate1234> ye
[14:55] <rymate1234> how can I make a dropdown that also has a text input?
[14:56] <sacarlson> rymate1234: seems it's one or the other not both
[14:56] <rymate1234> :(
[14:56] <usr13> studio: sacarlson genii-around http://fatooh.org/misc/ez-drive.html
[14:56] <sacarlson> rymate1234: just have both with one override the other?
[14:57] <Lartza> I dd'd a 100MB image to a 2GB sd card and gparted shows the drive as unreserved while nautilus shows a single 100MB partition but describes it as a "2GB filesystem"
[14:57] <Lartza> I want the remaining space to use
[14:57] <subins2000> fuchs:Hey i am now running on low graphics mode
[14:57] <ikonia> Lartza: how did you dd it
[14:57] <subins2000> and i am installing nvidia driver
[14:57] <genii-around> usr13: I think UBCD also may have these types of utilities
[14:57] <Lartza> ikonia, dd bs=1M if=0.fat of=/dev/sdd
[14:57] <rymate1234> how would I do that?
[14:57] <ikonia> Lartza: right, so there is no partition table any more
[14:57] <ikonia> Lartza: that's why you do'nt see a sane partition table
[14:58] <Azjo> hi, whats a good channel for graphic design? requiring lots of ram.
[14:58] <usr13> genii-around: Very good.  Probably a lot easier too.
[14:58] <ikonia> Azjo: use the "alis" bot to search
[14:58] <sachael> anyone know of a way to use the capslock light on my keyboard for something useful, like flashing when a window needs my attention?
[14:58] <Lartza> ikonia, Manual partition and cp -a? :P
[14:58] <Azjo> ikonia: where?
[14:58] <ikonia> Lartza: depends what your goal is
[14:58] <ikonia> Azjo: it's a bot called alis - message it
[14:58] <Lartza> Get things working, that will most likely work
[14:59] <sacarlson> rymate1234: all I know is in what I wrote and publish here https://github.com/sacarlson/GenPlayList  oh and it's in ruby
[14:59] <ikonia> "get things working" ??? what are you actually trying to do
[14:59] <Azjo> ikonia: i tried to msg it with a q but no answer ;)
[14:59] <Lartza> ikonia, Install ArchLinux ARM on a Raspberry Pi :)
[14:59] <theadmin> Lartza: ...How is that an Ubuntu question
[14:59] <sacarlson> rymate1234: there are some other good examples on github of glade and other places in other languages
[15:00] <Lartza> I am doing it from ubuntu, it's kind of a general dd question that would fit #linux but since I am using #ubuntu...
[15:00] <ikonia> Lartza: come on, help me out, what are you trying to actually do with the image and the usb disk
[15:00] <minihydra> How do i make fstab entry to automount partition so that it would be fully user writable? I was looking into that and found about umask and similar options, however it seems that in current version of ubuntu those are not supported. Suggestions?
[15:00] <Azjo> anyone who has experience with a Lenovo D20?
[15:00] <ikonia> Azjo: just ask the question
[15:00] <Lartza> ikonia, 0.fat is basically a /boot partition that was once inside another .img with 1.img as ext4 root
[15:00] <zykotick9> minihydra: what is the partition type?  ext/fat/ntfs?
[15:00] <minihydra> ext4
[15:01] <Lartza> ikonia, But I installed the root on a usb stick and now am left with the 0.fat 100MB /boot I want to get on this SD card
[15:01] <subins2000> Azjo: Ask the question
[15:01] <Azjo> im having trouble installing on the raid. windows, linux, anything i do, it simply wont work
[15:01] <zykotick9> minihydra: they mount the partition and change the permission on the mount point - fstab isn't required
[15:01] <ikonia> Lartza: I would partition the usb disk and copy the files onto the usb stick at a file system level
[15:01] <zykotick9> s/they/then/
[15:01] <subins2000> Azjo: So your computer have no operating sytems ?
[15:01] <Lartza> ikonia, What would be "filesystem level"? cp -a atleast saves permissions but :)
[15:02] <minihydra> I want it to be automatically mounted at boot, and not manual mounting with user directive at fstab
[15:02] <Azjo> nope
[15:02] <ikonia> Lartza: uncompress the image, and copy the files onto a pre-created partition and file system
[15:02] <subins2000> Azjo: Do you have a ubuntu cd ?
[15:02] <Azjo> some guy managed to install archlinux on it earlier.. but only because he took away all drives but 1
[15:02] <zykotick9> minihydra: i just mean permission isn't required in fstab - the mount is
[15:02] <nebimler> hi!
[15:02] <minihydra> zykotick9: you mean mount point?
[15:02] <Azjo> yes i do
[15:03] <nebimler> how can I install grub2. i am on live cd now.
[15:03] <zykotick9> minihydra: forget it - someone else can help you
[15:04] <subins2000> Azjo: then istall it
[15:04] <hddisseny>  /nick hddisseny:0i2f3v
[15:04] <subins2000> Azjo: What's the Ubuntu version of the cd ?
[15:04] <OerHeks> hddisseny change your password now
[15:04] <sacarlson> Azjo: so you want a software raid install I assume?  if so you would want the alternate ubuntu live cd
[15:04] <Azjo> i havent actually tried an ubuntu on the system.
[15:05] <theadmin> nebimler: If you are trying to recover a broken grub setup, I suggest following the article ubottu will send you in a sec.
[15:05] <theadmin> !restoregrub ! nebimler
[15:05] <theadmin> Oops
[15:05] <theadmin> !restoregrub | nebimler
[15:05] <Azjo> 12.04 is what i will install if anything, but thats not what i want though ;) i guess its worth a shot to see what happens.
[15:05] <subins2000> Azjo: you can try it using live cd
[15:05] <nebimler> theadmin no recover. i will just install it.
[15:06] <theadmin> nebimler: Okay. Then use the grub-install command
[15:06] <Azjo> that will most likely work yes.. but that wont solve my problem.
[15:06] <subins2000> Azjo: what's your problem ?
[15:07] <Azjo> raid driver issues i believe
[15:07] <nebimler> theadmin grub-install want parametre. i dont know what it is. it writes `device`.
[15:07] <Azjo> not even raid driver issues from the manufacturers site is accepted, when i try to install windows 7.
[15:08] <Azjo> issues? drivers**
[15:08] <applematt> hey everyone! i'm having trouble with configuring an init script. i have placed the script in /etc/init.d and ran "update-rc.d script-name defaults 99", however it doesn't *always* run on boot. i tried chain loading the script using rc.local but to no avail. any ideas on how to make a script run reliably on boot?
[15:08] <theadmin> nebimler: Read the manpage -- "man grub-install", it explains it in detail. Basic use is "grub-install --root-directory=/sdas_mountpoint/ /dev/sda"
[15:08] <sacarlson> Azjo: you need the alternate cd that had the drivers as noted here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LVMOnRaid
[15:08] <subins2000> Azjo: I am going bye. There is lots of people who can help you
[15:09] <Azjo> thanks sacarlson and subins2000
[15:12] <Jung-Lee> meow
[15:12] <theadmin> Jung-Lee: Woof. Do you have an Ubuntu support question? If you'd like to simply chat, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:13] <Jung-Lee> ok
[15:13] <applematt>  hey everyone! i'm having trouble with configuring an init script. i have placed the
[15:13] <applematt> +script in /etc/init.d and ran "update-rc.d script-name defaults 99", however it doesn't *always* run on
[15:13] <applematt> +boot. i tried chain loading the script using rc.local but to no avail. any ideas on how to make a script
[15:13] <applematt> +run reliably on boot?
[15:13] <FloodBot1> applematt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:14] <applematt> sorry FloodBot ... i just don't know how to paste. :P
[15:14] <theadmin> applematt: /etc/rc.local is your best bet to run arbitrary stuff on boot. If it fails, I suggest checking the actual script.
[15:16] <applematt> theadmin: thanks for the suggestion. the script runs fine when manually invoked.
[15:16] <sacarlson> applematt: might add some print statments to your script to get some feedback as to what happens with echo , maybe doesn't have needed assets to run?
[15:17] <sacarlson> applematt: or  permition problems or path problems or ....
[15:17] <applematt> sacarlson: it prints to messages using logger, however when the system boots, there are no log entries in messages which tells me it's not running from rc.local or as an init script.
[15:18] <sacarlson> applematt: were did you put your echo?  at start?
[15:18] <sacarlson> applematt: I normaly use cron with @reboot to start stuf
[15:18] <applematt> sacarlson: yes, i put an echo at the top of the script below #!/bin/bash
[15:19] <applematt> hmmm , cron with @reboot ... i'll have to give that a try.
[15:19] <applematt> sacarlson: thx for the suggestion!
[15:19] <sacarlson> applematt: I guess without seeing the script not much else I can tell ya
[15:19] <applematt> sacarlson: *nod*
[15:20] <applematt> sacarlson: i'd love to share, but it's proprietary for work so i'm not allow to do that. :P
[15:21] <applematt> Thanks again everyone! :)
[15:25] <metro_bishop> Pourquoi ce changement de nom?
[15:26] <veryhappy> hi guys please help me i deleted my configuration file in /etc/apache2 that i need for the apache2 webserver but i don't know how to bring them back please help
[15:26] <nannes> Is there a valid alternative to  "sendblaster", for ubuntu?
[15:26] <nannes> It's a mailing List Manager   client-side
[15:28] <Taire> Salut
[15:28] <ryu> Hi
[15:28] <ryu> i need help
[15:28] <veryhappy> salut
[15:29] <veryhappy> ryu: don't ask for help, please write just what you want
[15:29] <rinzler> Having trouble with pulseaudio. It doesn't start automatically and when I try to manually start it, I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060919/ Any Ideas
[15:30] <veryhappy> rinzler: looks like you have problem with a certain module
[15:30] <ryu> facing issue while trying to connect 3g
[15:30] <ryu> Looking for active driver ...
[15:30] <ryu>  No driver found. Either detached before or never attached
[15:30] <ryu> Setting up communication with interface 0
[15:30] <ryu> Using endpoint 0x01 for message sending ...
[15:30] <ryu> Trying to send message 1 to endpoint 0x01 ...
[15:30] <FloodBot1> ryu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:30] <ryu> libusb:error [submit_bulk_transfer] submiturb failed error -1 errno=2
[15:31] <tobe_> can someone plz help me. my system says i have no memory left. disk ananlyser says that 90gig is used by "var, log"? can i clear this directory?
[15:31] <adac> any ideas why my entries in /etc/crontab are not working? Nothing gets executed. This is how my file looks like: https://gist.github.com/2996369 not even the "touch" command which I added for testing purposes.
[15:32] <rinzler> veryhappy: do you have any tips to point me in the right direction?
[15:32] <veryhappy> rinzler: i sometimes used pulseaudio, but i think it's just the sentence "please use module-combine-sink instead of module-combine"
[15:33] <veryhappy> rinzler: that should give you a clue what's going wrong
[15:34] <rinzler> veryhappy: mmkay. Thanks for the help!
[15:34] <morri> hm
[15:34] <veryhappy> rinzler: np
[15:35] <ryu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060930/
[15:35] <ryu> plz check this links
[15:35] <BluesKaj> rinzler, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y --reinstall install alsa-base alsa-utils; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse ... then reboot and reinstall pulseaudio
[15:36] <rinzler> BluesKaj: Cool! Thanks!
[15:36] <veryhappy> ryu: already looked for line 2 and 3? it says "no driver" you should look for a driver for your ubuntu version either x86 or x64, that should be all
[15:36] <bodhi_zazen> Anyone know how to clean the notify-send icon cache ?
[15:36] <morri> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2010849
[15:36] <morri> I have got this resolution problem.
[15:36] <bodhi_zazen> I did "notify-send message -i /path/to/icon.png" which worked
[15:37] <bodhi_zazen> but the icon was off , so I replaced it
[15:37] <tobe_> i need help. 1 file is taking 90gig, its "uvcdynctrl-udevlog" can i delete this???
[15:37] <bodhi_zazen> "notify-send message -i /path/to/icon.png" continues to use the old icon >_<
[15:37] <nannes> Is there a valid alternative to  "sendblaster", for ubuntu?
[15:37] <nannes> It's a mailing List Manager   client-side
[15:39] <ryu> veryhappy@http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060934/
[15:39] <Richard> new to ubuntu
[15:39] <veryhappy> tobe_: if you don't use a webcam > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libwebcam/+bug/811604 describes your problem as well. uninstall the uvcdynctrl package and all should be good. then you can easily delete it
[15:39] <Richard> am at command prompt, how to get to gnome desktop
[15:39] <ryu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060934/
[15:40] <SkippersBoss> Richard, startx ??
[15:40] <tobe_> veryhappy: thank you ill look at that now thanks
[15:41] <veryhappy> ryu:  i'm sorry, modems are not my subect area
[15:41] <tobe_> veryhappy: wait i do use a webcam, would it help if i just disconnected it when i dont need it?
[15:41] <ryu> ok veryhappy :(
[15:42] <veryhappy> can someone please tell me how to recover the files in /etc for apache2, i deleted it
[15:42] <rumpe1> veryhappy, you could use your backup
[15:42] <morri> I don't know
[15:42] <veryhappy> tobe the uvcdynctr package is part of the webcam library
[15:42] <Richard> ty skipper, says x not installed
[15:42] <veryhappy> rumpe1: i don't have a backup of this files i know it
[15:43] <melkor> Hello, when I print a pdf file to ps, I get jibberish.
[15:43] <Richard> installing now
[15:43] <tobe_> veryhappy: wouldnt they be deleted into the recylce???
[15:43] <rumpe1> veryhappy, hm... then you have a problem. Remount immediately the root partition as read-only, otherwise the remaining fragments of the file will get overwritten.
[15:44] <veryhappy> tobe_: actually it was a few days ago when i tried to setup apache and then i got upset and deleted them because i thought by reinstalling it would reappear
[15:44] <fl0w> So anyone running Ubuntu as guest in a VirtualBox? I'm having trouble with folder sharing from my host (Windows 8). It mounts and everything but I'm getting permission when accessing for reason?
[15:44] <fl0w> permission error*
[15:44] <Richard> now get failed to load session
[15:44] <SkippersBoss> Richard, question now is how DID you install euhmmm have you installed a server version ?? mayb
[15:44] <veryhappy> fl0w: i also used sometimes virtualbox with ubuntu
[15:45] <Richard> could be server version
[15:45] <fl0w> veryhappy: Ever got that error? When trying to open a shared folder I'm getting permission error, and I don't know why?
[15:45] <veryhappy> fl0w: did you choose which file you want to share with your guest system?
[15:45] <fl0w> veryhappy: Yes, a full folder.
[15:45] <KaZeR> hey guys. can anyone tell me which package is supposed to provide the 'sx' binary?
[15:45] <Myrtti> ryu: Floodbots are bots, not persons able to help you
[15:45] <SkippersBoss> what else is it saying besides failed to load session.
[15:46] <iceroot> KaZeR: lrzsz
[15:46] <ryu> ok @myrtti
[15:46] <Richard> nothing else, just block in middle of screen
[15:46] <veryhappy> fl0w: actually you have to connect to the files mostly under smb://vboxsrv/
[15:46] <KaZeR> thanks iceroot
[15:47] <fl0w> veryhappy: I'm sorry, I'm a Ubuntu newbie. Do you perhaps have a resource or alike for me to read?
[15:48]  * SkippersBoss wants to let richard know he is not an expert. Just some one who has been using ubuntu since 2007 
[15:48] <veryhappy> fl0w: it will be described in the virtual box handbook look in there if you have problem and don't how to make something there you should also find how to access your files over shared folders
[15:48] <Richard> ok, any help appreciated
[15:49] <SkippersBoss> back to basics. How did you install ubuntu (which version) on what machine
[15:49] <Richard> version 11.10 on acer laptop
[15:50] <SkippersBoss> CD or usb stick
[15:50] <Richard> cd, have 12.04 on usb stick, but can't get to it
[15:50] <morri> heres a recent version of my driver dmesg for nouveau http://pastebin.com/2rpMFGcH
[15:51] <SkippersBoss> acer won't let you boot from stick ??
[15:51] <veryhappy> fl0w: if you really want to learn ubuntu search in the internet for the things that you want to know... like "ubuntu+how to make ..."
[15:51] <veryhappy> SkippersBoss: acer let's you boot from sticks
[15:51] <Richard> previously had 11.10 on a pc and had no problems
[15:52] <veryhappy> SkippersBoss: i have an acer aspire 6930g it works, unless you didn't set it up in bios then it won't work of course
[15:53] <SkippersBoss> verry happy, Richard is the one with the problem here :-)
[15:53] <veryhappy> SkippersBoss: yea saw that one :D
[15:53] <veryhappy> Richard you should be able to boot over your stick i've got an acer aspire 6930g and there it works
[15:54] <keyword1> hi guys I have a question I have installed ubuntu server I installed X so when i run export display=:0 && xterm
[15:54] <keyword1> xterm Xt error: Can't open display:
[15:54] <keyword1> xterm:  DISPLAY is not set
[15:54] <keyword1> anyone knows why?
[15:54] <SkiOne> I just upgraded to 12.04 and I am getting this error trying to install php5 http://pastebin.com/Z6bUEujw
[15:54] <theadmin> keyword1: "display" and "DISPLAY" are not the same thing.
[15:56] <veryhappy> so you guys: you can easily reinstall the files that you've deleted for me it was just: sudo apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install apache2.2-common
[15:56] <melkor> Ok, I've figured out the ps issue, but now when I print it will not acknowledge the duplex/two-sided option and just prints single sided.
[15:57] <SkippersBoss> Richard, have you removed the gnome desktop
[15:57] <tametick> hi, apt-get dist-upgrade broke nginx on my 10.04 LTS, and it doesn't let me install it again: http://pastebin.com/4ckKU4PW
[15:58] <tametick> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[15:58] <tametick>   nginx-light: Depends: libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8m-1) but 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.13 is to be installed
[15:58] <cowpoop> keyword1: that is a global ver. Did you write over it? If you did it will come back on reboot.
[15:58] <keyword1> cowpoop:  I run this export DISPLAY=:0 && xterm -e "firefox"
[15:58] <keyword1> xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :0
[15:58] <joshbeitler> When I start unity, nothing shows up.  Amy help?
[15:59] <Richard> changed boot order, trying to load from usb stick
[15:59] <cowpoop> keyword1 Are you just try'n to open firefox from a term?
[15:59] <keyword1> cowpoop:  I need run an script in X
[15:59] <keyword1> with cron
[16:00] <cowpoop> keyword1: so what is this crontab going to do?
[16:00] <cowpoop> keyword1: get some http info?
[16:00] <SkippersBoss> richard, on the net it says that the failed to load session could be related to u not having gnome desktop installed
[16:00] <keyword1> cowpoop:  yeao
[16:01] <veryhappy> tametick: sudo apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install  nginx and then do a apt-get purge nginx that should help you then just do normally apt-get install nginx
[16:01] <keyword1> cowpoop:  I tried with xinit but when I lunched this one with cron died
[16:01] <tametick> thanks veryhappy
[16:01] <veryhappy> tametick: i hope it works for you
[16:01] <cowpoop> keyword1: why not make life easy and just use curl -s http://xxxxxx
[16:01] <DeltaHeavy> Hey, I installed xfce-desktop and my sound stopped workin on Ubuntu 11.10. I uninstalled pulseaudio and I need to install some osrt of alsa package IIRC. Anybody know what I should be doing here?
[16:01] <SkiOne> I have 2 packages I can't find but should be in precise libonig2 and libqdbm14
[16:01] <keyword1> cowpoop:  nops I need freifox for js support
[16:02] <cowpoop> ahhh
[16:02] <keyword1> cowpoop:  why doesnt works xterm?
[16:02] <tametick> veryhappy: it says exactly the same thing: http://pastebin.com/j7pUyMkm
[16:02] <beandog> keyword1: I think elinks supports JS
[16:02] <beandog> well, I know it does
[16:02] <keyword1> nops I need run freifox in the X I'm using watir gem and it needs this one
[16:02] <keyword1> i cant do this one on the console
[16:02] <keyword1> I need X
[16:03] <cowpoop> keyword1: over at #bash here on freenode then can help you.
[16:03] <rymate1234> yo
[16:03] <rymate1234> can you change the font of a GtkTextView
[16:03] <rymate1234> ?
[16:04] <veryhappy> tametick: here is how you should be able to fix your system respective broken packages i hope it helps: http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/apt-get-how-to-fix-very-broken-packages/
[16:04] <veryhappy> see you guys
[16:05] <cowpoop> keyword1: You should be able to open firefox but once its spawed its not going to be read. I would first parse what I needed with lynx or something then use sed (or awk) to get the info I wanted.
[16:07] <blizzow> I converted my precise server from a dynamic IP to static IP.  I also manually wrote in my nameservers into /etc/resolv.conf  This morning I came in and my resolv.conf was blank.  How do I keep /etc/resolv.conf from being overwritten?
[16:07] <zykotick9> blizzow: network-manager over rights it these days
[16:08] <Charles1> I am trying to mount a hard drive from a raid 1 array, can anyone help?
[16:08] <Akoibon2> hi all
[16:08] <blizzow> I should have mentioned I'm using 12.04 server.  So network-manager is not installed
[16:09] <Akoibon2> i dont know how to join the irc canal of glade. I dont find the irc.gnome.org
[16:09] <DeltaHeavy> Hey, I installed xfce-desktop and my sound stopped workin on Ubuntu 11.10. I uninstalled pulseaudio and I need to install some osrt of alsa package IIRC. Anybody know what I should be doing here?
[16:09] <Charles1> Can anyone help me mount this raid 1 hard drive, it keeps telling me it is unable to mount
[16:09] <SkiOne> how do I enable third party libraries and the multiverse from the command line?
[16:09] <zykotick9> blizzow: are you sure about that?  i was under the impression even server uses n-m
[16:10] <zykotick9> !info libonig2
[16:10] <rymate1234> yo guys
[16:10] <rymate1234> can you change the font of a GtkTextView?
[16:11] <SkiOne> zykotick9: yea that package should be findable but it isn't I keep getting: Package 'libonig2' has no installation candidate
[16:11] <Charles1> I am looking for help, anyone care to give my problem a try? Please, I have reached a dead end.
[16:11] <zykotick9> SkiOne: do you have universe enabled?  "sudo apt-get update"?
[16:12] <DeltaHeavy> Charles1: How are you trying to mount it?
[16:12] <SkiOne> zykotick9: which line in sources do I have to check?
[16:12] <zykotick9> SkiOne: try "grep -i universe /etc/apt/sources.list"
[16:13] <Charles1> Using the usual ubuntu file interface and terminal, to no avail, It is part of a iomega storcenter ix2 200 device that crashed
[16:13] <blizzow> zykotick9: aptitude search network-manager shows a p in the first column.  Pretty sure that means it's not installed.
[16:13] <zykotick9> blizzow: (sidenote) don't use aptitude with 12.04, it doesn't support multiarch
[16:14] <SkiOne> zykotick9: its on 2 lines but none of the ones that say precise
[16:14] <Charles1> Dealta Heavy: I try to force mount it, but it tells me that no mount point exists
[16:14] <zykotick9> SkiOne: sorry, someone familiar with 12.04 would need to assist you then.  good luck.
[16:14] <malik_> HI all, How do i use sudo without a password? my sudo user has no password.
[16:14] <Charles1> Delta Heavy: Also I have it connected via usb
[16:15] <SkiOne> I added universe to all the precise lines and it installed zykotick9
[16:15] <rymate1234> join #ubuntu-dev
[16:15] <rymate1234> eh
[16:15] <SkiOne> lol
[16:15] <rymate1234> gah
[16:15] <rymate1234> I'll ask here
[16:15] <DeltaHeavy> Charles1: Through the GUI or are you using the CLI?
[16:15] <rymate1234> How to get my prefrences to save? :(
[16:16] <jaequery> anyone got a great bash script that sets color scheme to be more readable?
[16:16] <Charles1> Delta Heavy: the gui I believe, I don't no what CLI is, Sorry.
[16:17] <rymate1234> command line interface
[16:17] <rymate1234> the terminal
[16:17] <BennieJet> CLI = Command Line Interface (open Terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T to see it)
[16:17] <DeltaHeavy> Charles1: Command line interface. Try mounting it via the mount command. Could you pastebin the output of 'ls /dev/ | grep ^sd' please
[16:17] <malik_> anyone please,  How do i use sudo without a password? my sudo user has no password.
[16:17] <Charles1> DeltaHeavy: Sorry yes I tried to use the interface, and I tried the mount command
[16:18] <DeltaHeavy> malik_: Have you tried just pressing enter?
[16:18] <malik_> Yes i did. but does not accept and asks for a password
[16:19] <BennieJet> where can I find a list of ops and staff for this channel?
[16:19] <Charles1> DeltaHeavy: I think the company might have given me the wrong filesystem type, any way I can find that out?
[16:19] <LjL> BennieJet: /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list - there is also the channel #ubuntu-ops if you need something in particular
[16:20] <BennieJet> okay, thanx
[16:20] <Charles1> Also I am told it was part of an mdadm array
[16:20] <DeltaHeavy> Charles1: pastebin the output of 'fdisk -l'
[16:20] <Charles1> Ok
[16:20] <DeltaHeavy> Charles: I mean 'fdisk -l <disk>'
[16:20] <Charles1> Ok
[16:20] <DeltaHeavy> Disk being /dev/sda or whatever that disk is
[16:20] <malik_> DeltaHeavy: well, I think i better tell why i dont have a password. I was having issues with entering password. I dont know why but i needed to enter password 10s of times before i could login. So i just deleted the password
[16:20] <BennieJet> do'h sorry!
[16:21] <qw[UA]> good day people
[16:21] <DeltaHeavy> malik_: I'd have to assume that's user error. Sometimes I type in my password slightly wrong but a way I'd commonly mess it up.
[16:22] <Charles1> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline', sorry
[16:22] <qw[UA]> i am use in Spark (ubuntu) and i would like my monitor is auto-disable
[16:22] <malik_> DeltaHeavy, I am user it was not user error. my password was only 3 characters long, and i carefully entered CORRECT password, but the problem persisted.
[16:23] <Charles1> DeltaHeavy: The device is on dev/sdc , how is that command written?
[16:23] <malik_> DeltaHeavy, Could this be the wireless keyboard connected to the PC via a kvm switch? though everything else is type correctly
[16:24] <DeltaHeavy> malik_: I'm just saying as far as I can tell it's far more likly there's user error of some sorts whether it be capital letters or what, then a decades old login system having a bug.
[16:24] <Richard> now I get "missing operating system" when trying to boot from stick
[16:24] <DeltaHeavy> Charles1: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[16:25] <Richard> all files are extracted
[16:25] <malik_> DeltaHeavy, I searched a lot about the problem but din't see a similar post on the web. don;t know what to do..... :/
[16:25] <DeltaHeavy> malik_: Might be a KVM issue, idk =/
[16:26] <Charles1> DeltaHeavy: It just bumped to the next line, no text was displayed
[16:26] <makerbreaker> im having some trouble getting my ssh keys to work
[16:27] <SkippersBoss> Richard,how did you create the stick
[16:27] <Charles1> DeltaHeavy: Sorry Now it displayed something
[16:27] <makerbreaker> i have a server with 2 users, and 2 client machines
[16:27] <makerbreaker> 1 client machine is working just fine w/o password
[16:27] <makerbreaker> i recreated the setup for the other client, but it needs a password
[16:27] <Richard> downloaded from ubuntu web site
[16:27] <DeltaHeavy> Charles1: Be very careful about this, as fdisk can wipe your partition table, but run 'sudo fdisk /dev/sda'
[16:27] <DeltaHeavy> Charles1: While in fdisk run 'p' followed by 'q'. Any output?
[16:27] <beandog> DeltaHeavy: fdisk -l
[16:28] <SkippersBoss> "using windows ??
[16:28] <beandog> :)
[16:28] <beandog> same thing
[16:28] <SkippersBoss> are you using wubi ??
[16:28] <Richard> yes
[16:28] <Charles1> What does sudo fdisk /dev/sda do?
[16:28] <Richard> don't know what that is, so no
[16:28] <DeltaHeavy> beandog: That's not working
[16:28] <DeltaHeavy> Charles1: Sorry, replace that with /dev/sdc
[16:28] <beandog> DeltaHeavy: l as as el?
[16:29] <DeltaHeavy> beandog: When he runs that command he just gets a newline and that's it
[16:29] <beandog> DeltaHeavy: really?  That's not good.
[16:29] <Charles1> DeltaHeavy: Sorry I am so new to this, thancks for bearing with me
[16:29] <DeltaHeavy> beandog: It's RAID1. Would that have anything to do with it?
[16:29] <DeltaHeavy> beandog: I doubt it right?
[16:29] <SkippersBoss> Richard, did you use unetbootin to create the disk
[16:30] <beandog> DeltaHeavy: no, that wouldn't make a difference ... fdisk is still going to show the existence of actual devices
[16:30] <Richard> no, just downloaded it to a stick and extracted the files
[16:30] <ChTiPowA> Hi. I have a mini pc desktop without screen, keyboard and mouse. I communicate with it via SSH Client or FreeNX Desktop Client. All run fine except i have a persistent message : http://pastebin.com/5St1p0Hm. I've tried all solutions i've found on Google : Touch /forcefsck ( the file remain on the root and no check are done ). e2fsck told me after done a forced check that my HDD haven't been checked since 290 Days.
[16:31] <Charles1> DeltaHeavy: "fdisk: unable to open dev/sdc: No such file or directory" I am sure it is at dev/sdc, now I am confused
[16:31] <ChTiPowA> So since 290 Days, that message shows up and no checks are done for that HDD. However the HDD still runs fine. So i don't know what i can do ...
[16:31] <SkippersBoss> Richard, that's why no boot image
[16:31] <SkippersBoss> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[16:31] <Richard> what to do
[16:32] <SkippersBoss> :-)
[16:32] <beandog> ChTiPowA: that's ... weird
[16:32] <beandog> ChTiPowA: I think you can use tune2fs to flag it as needing to be checked, too
[16:32] <DeltaHeavy> Charles1: What's the output of 'ls /dev/ | grep ^sd'
[16:32] <SkippersBoss> Richard, don't worry we have all been there. Read the article to create bootable version of ubuntu
[16:32] <ChTiPowA> beandog: well i don't know Tune2fs, can you tell me more please ?
[16:33] <Richard> will do and yhanks
[16:33] <Richard> thanks
[16:33] <SkippersBoss> don't mention it
[16:33] <Charles1> DeltaHeavy: Sorry I missed that line of code, what do I put in?
[16:33] <beandog> ChTiPowA: it ships with e2fsprogs as well ... just tweaks settings, like changing the label, setting amount reserved for root, etc., etc.  man page is gonna be your best friend, honestly
[16:34] <ChTiPowA> i'm reading the manpage beandog but ... what do you suggest me to do with that ?
[16:34] <DeltaHeavy> Charles1: 'ls /dev/ | grep ^sd'
[16:34] <beandog> ChTiPowA: I dunno, it seems like touching the file should have done it
[16:34] <ChTiPowA> beandog: exactly, touching file doesn't do it.
[16:34] <ChTiPowA> beandog: the shutdown -rF now doesn't do it either
[16:35] <ChTiPowA> beandog: also i tried the simple shutdown -h now but doesn't do it ...
[16:35] <beandog> ChTiPowA: well what *I* would do at this point is boot off a live CD / usb and run it that way so the drive isn't mounted
[16:35] <stack> Hi, I have several files in a directory. Is it possible to perform search in the directory for files containing specific phrases as content ?
[16:35] <beandog> stack: grep
[16:36] <beandog> stack: it depends on what types of files they are.  If it's just text, then grep would work
[16:36] <stack> beandog: they are .c and .h files
[16:36] <ChTiPowA> beandog: There is no CD Player on that computer only USB. What i've done is e2fsprog -p /dev/sda3, it told me the HDD was mounted so what i've done is i killed all process using it since it works only for LAN. then i forced the checkup, all run fine except non contigus files at 17.5% but the tool fixed it.
[16:36] <Charles1> DeltaHeavy: sda
[16:36] <Charles1> sda1
[16:36] <Charles1> sda2
[16:36] <Charles1> sda3
[16:36] <Charles1> sdc
[16:36] <Charles1> sdc1
[16:36] <Charles1> sdc2
[16:36] <DeltaHeavy> stack: find . -type f -print | xargs grep -li "containsthis" 2> /dev/null
[16:36] <FloodBot1> Charles1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:36] <DeltaHeavy> Charles1: idk then, /dev/sdc clearly exists
[16:36] <ChTiPowA> beandog: then e2fsck told me that my HDD have never been checked during 290 days.
[16:37] <imanc> folks - I have on my server a fireawll - which I load with sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[16:37] <beandog> stack: yah, grep'll work then.  grep "<string>" *.c
[16:37] <beandog> stack: etc.
[16:37] <beandog> ChTiPowA: Hmm, I think there's a way to flag it and say it *was* checked
[16:37] <ChTiPowA> so now beandog the checkup is done but still, when i reboot the computer i have the message ...
[16:37] <Charles1> DeltaHeavy: sdc1, sdc2 are both part of the drive connected at sdc, how would I mount that drive?
[16:38] <ChTiPowA> beandog: before to come to channel, i found the message is on /var/run/motd but when i tried the trick to rename that motd, the computer remake it and still the message is present.
[16:38] <beandog> ChTiPowA: there we go ... tune2fs -T <time last checked>  (see the man page)
[16:38] <DeltaHeavy> Charles1: mount -t <fs> /dev/sdc<partition> <mountpoint>
[16:38] <beandog> it's near the bottom
[16:38] <DeltaHeavy> eg: mount -t ext4 /dev/sdc1 /media/mnt/
[16:39] <Charles1> DeltaHeavy: I try that command, but the catch is I really don't know what the fs type is
[16:40] <purechaos> Charles1: file system maybe
[16:40] <DeltaHeavy> Charles1: fdisk would tell you but apperantly that's not working. brb reboot
[16:40] <Charles1> DeltaHeavy: ok
[16:41] <genii-around> Charles1: If it's a filesystem which it knows by trying to deduce from the partition type, you don't require the -t <fs> part
[16:41] <reza> Hello everyone..I'm wondering if anyone has successfully installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS onto a AIC-9410 HDD controller. I'm finding the soft-raid5 not working too well.
[16:41] <reza> SuperMicro's website isn't listing ubuntu for my specific model, but similiar models
[16:41] <Charles1> purechaos: I know its file system, the thing is I really don't know what type it is, the company told me ext3 and xfs, but I don't think that is it
[16:42] <ChTiPowA> beandog: that HDD is cursed, i see on Tune2fs -l /dev/sda3 that response : "Last checked:             Tue Jun 26 18:07:17 2012" that's today man lol...
[16:43] <reza> this isn't a good sign : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1189138
[16:43] <Charles1> Tried the cmd without the -t <fs> and it gave me this "mount: unknown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member' "
[16:43] <Charles1> "
[16:43] <purechaos> Charles1: take a look at cat /etc/fstab you will find your FS there
[16:44] <schnuffle> Charles1:  Then you have a softraid or LVM setup
[16:44] <beandog> ChTiPowA: hmm, at this point the motd might not be working properly then
[16:44] <reza> ba, i'm hoping Windows isn't my only option for this controller.
[16:44] <purechaos> Charles1: take a look at cat /etc/fstab |grep ext4
[16:44] <Charles1> I  got this # UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM is it bad?
[16:45] <purechaos> Charles1: eemm. How do you even boot?
[16:45] <purechaos> Charles1: or was the just the hash tag?
[16:45] <compdoc> fstab defines your boot, swap, and storage drives
[16:45] <Charles1> purechaos: I installed ubuntu through windows, hope that was what you meant
[16:46] <ChTiPowA> yeah beandog that's my thought too
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> Charles1  wubi?
[16:46] <Charles1> MonkeyDust: Yes, I used wubi.
[16:46] <purechaos> Charles1: copy your fstab on pastebin. Dont have to guess as much.
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> Charles1  that's an installation *inside* windows, it's not real
[16:47] <Charles1> MonkeyDust: should fstab still exist, and I know it isn't real
[16:48] <ChTiPowA> ok beandog good job and thanks, it is fixed, i used the Tune2fs and it works now :)
[16:48] <ChTiPowA> message is gone :D
[16:48] <Charles1> I see the fstab file, everyone, everything is ok
[16:48] <beandog> ChTiPowA: awesome :D
[16:50] <Charles1> Will using a wubi installed system have to do anything with me not being able to mount a raid 1 hard drive
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> Charles1  i'm not too familiar with raid, but I guess so, yes
[16:52] <reza> can anyone help me with an answer on the AIC-9140 SAS controller?
[16:52] <reza> not having luck w/google
[16:52] <melkor> Charles1: what happens when you try to mount it?
[16:52] <compdoc> Charles1, many motherboard raid controllers are not supported by linux
[16:53] <ChTiPowA> beandog: tune2fs -T now /dev/sda3 then you remove motd and it works ;) Remember it for others or yourself :D
[16:53] <Charles1> melkor: Unable to mount, for everyone else: it is an mdadm raid 1 array
[16:53] <reza> compdoc, you know that to be case with all controllers?
[16:54] <schnuffle> Charles1: if its a Raid1 you should have to HDD included? what tells cat /proc/mdstat
[16:55] <Charles1> shnuffle: if you meant two hdds, yes I have the second one
[16:55] <compdoc> reza, no I dont know which work and which do not. but many cheaper controllers require a driver to make them work, and the manufacturers dont supply a linux driver. There are certainly lots of real raid cards that do work and have linux drivers. I like 3ware
[16:56] <schnuffle> Charles1: so What is your goal?
[16:56] <Nobody79> #ubuntu.it
[16:57] <Nobody79> ubuntu italy'
[16:57] <Nobody79> ?
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> Nobody79  #ubuntu-it
[16:57] <yevgenko> hello, anyone know if there is separate channel for ubuntu app developers or showdown contest?
[16:58] <Charles1> schnuffel: To mount that drive to get the files off it, in other words salvage the data
[17:00] <reza> so the official word from supermicro is....no support other than RedHat
[17:00] <reza> lame!
[17:00] <Charles1> Also apparently under wubi, all things handled by fstab are handled from elsewhere
[17:00] <schnuffle> Charles1: Then you would be better using a  live CD. I don't know anythin about Wubi except that people often have problems with it. So my advice: Connect both HDDs, boot from a live CD/USB, assemble the Raid,mount it, save your data
[17:00] <damian_> hi, anyone know whether you can dd a compactflash card that has been mounted with gphotofs?
[17:01] <Charles1> schnuffle: That is some great advice, one question, I am new to this, what does assembling an array do?
[17:01] <melkor> Charles1: once the install is finished it should be a normal install?
[17:02] <thayerhallslayer> hi. I'm currently using gparted to resize a 2TB ext4 partition down to 1TB. It's been at it for over an hour. Is there any way of checking the progress?
[17:02] <Charles1> melkor: no, It is a bit diffrent from a normal install
[17:02] <schnuffle> Charles1: And keep in mind that often there's LVM used on the Raid partitions, so you won't be able to mount /dev/sdX directly but /dev/<volumegroup>/<logicalvolume>
[17:03] <Charles1> scnuffle: yes you are good, Ill see if I can find a pc to install a true ubunt copy
[17:03] <schnuffle> Charles1: Assemle means put a Raid together. If your're lucky, you'll have your Raid1 ready when you boot and you can check it with cat /proc/mdstat
[17:04] <schnuffle> Charles1: No need to install, just bott the live system
[17:04] <schnuffle> boot
[17:04] <zenmaster> So lets say I have 77 computers going through one machine, if I add another network card and bridge it so that I have 2x 100mbps lines running to the router. Would that be load balancing?
[17:04] <hungray1> Hey guys, I was wondering if I would be able to run an ubuntu server if I just installed the OS in a vm and uploaded it to an ftp server. Would I have any problems running websites or anything off of it?
[17:04] <ikonia> hungray1: not if the host machine has the power and bandwidth to do so
[17:05] <PsychoX75> well hello there... Ubuntu guys.
[17:05] <schnuffle> hungray1: depends on the VM technology used the host system ...... but it possible
[17:05] <hungray1> ikonia: so it should behave like a normal server in every way? I plan on runing a website, irc, and murmur server. All under tor hidden services...
[17:05] <hungray1> schnuffle: vmware
[17:05] <ikonia> hungray1: it is a normal server - totally the same as physical hardware
[17:06] <hungray1> ikonia: I understand that, but when it is uploaded to a server as a vm file I didn't know if there would be some kind of conflicts with the network where the file was stored.
[17:06] <schnuffle> hungray1: that works. But I suggest using something like LXC or OpenVZ if everything is Linux
[17:06] <hungray1> schnuffle: what are those exactly?
[17:06] <ikonia> hungray1: no, you just set the ip address for use on that server
[17:07] <PsychoX75> question... I have a network shared machine. In a windows environment i open \\192.168.1.5 and i can see everything on the HDD.   But how in heavens name do i tell ubuntu to go on the hdd of such a device and from where?
[17:07] <hungray1> ikonia: thnks
[17:07] <ikonia> hungray1: there is no need to not use vmware
[17:07] <ikonia> hungray1: if you have a working vmware host, you have no reason to change technologies on the host
[17:07] <hungray1> ikonia: can you clarify...your writing is confusing me a little (not to be insulting, im sorry xD)
[17:08] <LostMonk> so, if unity breaks, how can you fix it?
[17:08] <melkor> PsychoX75: open nautilus (file manager) and there should be a network option.
[17:08] <schnuffle> hungray1: on one side you have KVM/XEN/Vmware  which emulate the whole PC with hardwrae for you and then you have openvz/lxc that are much more like a blown up chroot
[17:08] <hungray1> LostMonk: uninstall/reinstall
[17:08] <ikonia> hungray1: no instult taken
[17:08] <ikonia> hungray1: using vmware is fine, no reason to change
[17:08] <hungray1> ikonia: thanks
[17:08] <LostMonk> hungray1, whats the name of the package?
[17:08] <hungray1> LostMonk: oh wait sorry I thought you meant for vmware buddy. Not the new gui
[17:09] <PsychoX75> yeah... the catch is.... this is not a Windows machine
[17:09] <schnuffle> hungray1: but ikonia is right if its just to sort it out vmware is fine
[17:09] <LostMonk> yeah, the new gui
[17:09] <hungray1> LostMonk: I had that issue a long time ago, I just did a fresh install.
[17:09] <melkor> PsychoX75: I dont know what that means at all.
[17:09] <melkor> PsychoX75: I thought you were using ubuntu?
[17:09] <LostMonk> was hoping I could do it a faster way
[17:09] <PsychoX75> I'm using ubuntu to access a Linux-based network machine.
[17:10] <hungray1> schnuffle: Ok so one more time (im slow) I can drop that vmware file in there and everything will be daisys?
[17:10] <melkor> PsychoX75: how is the linux box sharing the drive? It sounds like a samba share.
[17:10] <hungray1> LostMonk: there is, I am not familiar with the newer ubuntu releases
[17:10] <PsychoX75> when this machine isn't listed in my 'detected machines in the network' in windows, i can just force the computer to look at the IP by typing \\192.168.1.5
[17:10] <PsychoX75> But I don't know where or how to type it in linux....
[17:10] <PsychoX75> or where
[17:10] <schnuffle> hungray1: of course you need to have vmware installed on the server and you need to adjust the network settings. If you don't have a public IP you'll need to used a NATEd network and set some portforwardings
[17:11] <PsychoX75> Nautilus doesn't really give me a box to type/edit the adres
[17:11] <hungray1> LostMonk: I would try sudo apt-get upgrade...that might fix it
[17:11] <melkor> PsychoX75: open nautilus, go to file and connect to server.
[17:11] <hungray1> schnuffle: ah. see in vmware you can connect to remote virtual machines...I didn't know if they meant that included virtual machines stored on plain ftp servers
[17:12] <PsychoX75> melkor: YES!!! Thanks. That helped me.  :)
[17:12] <PsychoX75> Linux ftw!!!  :D
[17:13] <schnuffle> hungray1: no you need the virtualization infrastructure running on the host you want to use it.
[17:13] <wip> how can i make my own amd64+mac.iso
[17:13] <DeltaHeavy> After fixing my sound by installing and configuring puvcontrols Flash locks up and won't play.
[17:15] <schnuffle> DeltaHeavy: which ubuntu version?
[17:15] <wip> i want to install ubuntu on my mac but i get _Select CD-Rom Boot Type_
[17:15] <melkor> wip: are you using a livecd
[17:16] <wip> melkor: yes (ubuntu studio)
[17:17] <wip> i tried to remake the iso (mkisofs -r -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table)
[17:17] <neosimago> is anyone having issues with their v3 kernel with nvidia display module crashing and shutting their system down?
[17:17] <melkor> wip: I don't know how to use a boot cd on a make. you put it in the slot and reboot?
[17:18] <wip> but i think it chop the filename... so i was wondering how to produce a mac compatible livecd
[17:19] <wip> melkor: yes, mac have a special boot loader called refit, no problem with livecd or iso that are made for mac: am64+mac.iso
[17:23] <kyle__> OK, I'm an old fogey who likes config files.  With network-manager, where do you set the nameserver?  It's in my /etc/network/interfaces file, but it's not seeing it
[17:24] <angs> I am using ubuntu 12.04. dmesg shows usb problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/1061119/    can anyone tell me how can I fix the errors?
[17:24] <rypervenche> kyle__: Should be /etc/resolv.conf
[17:24] <fwiss> Hey, #Ubuntu. It turns out my partitioning problem was a bug in GParted so it's not likely to get fixed anytime soon.
[17:24] <fwiss> So I was wondering what would you guys recommend as a backup solution?
[17:24] <fwiss> For Ubuntu that is.
[17:24] <fwiss> Sorry< i mean for Windows
[17:24] <fwiss> so that the backups of Windows will boot. Since I doubt my OEM will ggive me a cd
[17:24] <FloodBot1> fwiss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:24] <kyle__> rypervenche: Right, but there's a warning in it that it's generated by network-manager, so I'm assuming there's a place to put it in NM, so it's all right and proper.
[17:25] <rypervenche> kyle__: Ah, I'm not sure then. I use wicd. Sorry.
[17:25] <kyle__> rypervenche: wicd is the reasonable wifi interface one right?
[17:25] <SocialEvil> hi guys i have ubuntu 10.04 and installed chrome but when i play youtube or something else.. the flash is  lagging.. i installed firefox flash plugin and tried with ff, but again its really laggy...
[17:25] <fwiss> FloodBot1, I didn't do anything. I think you're trying to frame me, which is a bannable offense. Sysops, ban FloodBot1, he's trying to frame me.
[17:26] <kyle__> The interfaces file was good enough, network-manager was a jackass bad move.
[17:26] <fwiss> Are you using flash or gnash?
[17:26] <katr0> Hi, does anyone knows what is the name for the package python-pgsql ?
[17:26] <kyle__> !fwiss|crybaby
[17:26] <kyle__> Awe... I thought ubottu should have that command..
[17:26] <bilal_> ubuntu update commend gve me
[17:26] <fwiss> T_T
[17:26] <rypervenche> fail
[17:27] <fwiss> You guys are so mean I'm leaving. And it's not that I'm shutting down to do anything else. It's totally not.
[17:27] <fwiss> JK, love y'all.
[17:27] <rypervenche> kyle__: Uhh it's a different network manager completely. I like it because my wireless starts before my GUI does. So if X.org doesn't work for some reason, I can still get online via the command line.
[17:27] <kyle__> fwiss: YOu want a windows backup solution, or an ubuntu one?
[17:27] <kyle__> rypervenche: Yea, that's my issue as well.  I like the command line :)  I want everything to work from it, X optional.
[17:28] <kyle__> Hum.  OK, I only heard of wicid for wifi, didn't realize it did all the network configs.
[17:28] <rypervenche> kyle__: You're using vanilla Ubuntu?
[17:28] <drag0nius> im having trouble with login into samba from win7, one account with some short numeric password is working, but my own 10 alphanumerical does not
[17:28] <alankila> NM can totally connect before user logs on too
[17:28] <alankila> you just tick the box that says 'available to all users'
[17:28] <stack> Hi, I am trying to run qemu, but I et this error while mounting image; qemu: could not open disk image on: No such file or directory. But I have confirmed that the file exists at that location
[17:28] <drag0nius> i've tried smbpasswd couple times and still nothing
[17:29] <kyle__> rypervenche: Yes.  I had a system with a really old install, I'm winding it through do-release-upgrades right now to run orchestra on it, then it's getting blown away and replaced with 12.04-server or SL-6.  not sure which yet.
[17:29] <genii-around> bilal_: sudo apt-get update  will get the newest list. sudo apt-get upgrade will make sure the programs you have are at their latest version. sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will put the most recent kernel for your ubuntu, along with any updates programs require because of this
[17:29] <Jordan_U> stack: What is the exact qemu command you're running?
[17:30] <stack> Jordan_U: qemu-0.13.0/x86_64-softmmu/qemu-system-x86_64 -k en-us -m 4096 --enable-kvm  --drive file =disks/gentoo.c1.qcow2
[17:30] <compdoc> stack, its an image that ran in another system, or its a new file?
[17:31] <Jordan_U> stack: You have an extra space between '--drive-file' and '=disk/gentoo.c1.qcow2'
[17:31] <stack> compdoc: its a fresh image
[17:31] <Jordan_U> stack: So it's looking for a file literally named '=disks/gentoo.c1.qcow2'
[17:32] <toshi_> hlll
[17:32] <toshi_> hCTCP VERSION from Defender
[17:32] <toshi_>  No channel joined. Try /join #<channel>
[17:32] <toshi_>  No channel joined. Try /join #<channel>CTCP VERSION from Defender
[17:32] <toshi_>  No channel joined. Try /join #<channel>
[17:32] <toshi_>  No channel joined. Try /join #<channel>
[17:32] <FloodBot1> toshi_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:32] <compdoc> drag0nius, there is a group policy setting in win7 to allow logins to samba. and usernames should be low case, I think
[17:32] <drag0nius> the thing is i've acc for myself and for other users
[17:32] <toshi_> rrrrrrrrrrrrr
[17:32] <toshi_> gh
[17:32] <toshi_> h
[17:32] <toshi_> h
[17:32] <FloodBot1> toshi_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:32] <drag0nius> that other acc has 4 digit password
[17:33] <stack> Jordan_U: Even that gives an eror: could not open disk image disks/gentoo.c1.qcow2: No such file or directory
[17:33] <drag0nius> its accepted without problems
[17:33] <compdoc> stack, you created the image with virt-manager, or virsh or something?
[17:33] <Gigo_> hi!
[17:33] <Jordan_U> stack: What is the output of "ls -l disk/gentoo.c1.qcow2" ?
[17:33] <compdoc> stack, try /disk/gentoo.c1.qcow2
[17:34] <kyle__> How can you tell which kernels grub is configured for?
[17:35] <drag0nius> so nobody has any ideas?
[17:35] <Gigo_> are there any known problems with recent updates? my Network-Manager stopped working correctly...
[17:35] <Gigo_> (ubuntu 11.10)
[17:35] <stack> Jordan_U: -rwxr-xr-x 1 stack root 2240348160 Jun 26 22:54 gentoo.c1.qcow2
[17:36] <stack> compdoc: I got this image from someone else. So not sure how it was created.
[17:36] <stack> compdoc: the same image worked till sometime ago, but now suddenly this error has start coming
[17:36] <dmanweb> Is anyone else seeing empty menus in libreoffice  on Ubuntu 12.04 64bit ?
[17:36] <dmanweb> it just started today
[17:37] <Jordan_U> stack: That is not the output of "ls -l disks/gentoo.c1.qcow2" it might be the output of "ls -l gentoo.c1.qcow2", but that's a different path.
[17:37] <stack> Jordan_U: ah, disks is a directory in my home dir
[17:38] <kyle__> nevermind found it.  Damn.  I thought release-upgrades would remove the antique kernels.
[17:38] <Jordan_U> stack: I'm trying to confirm that your command is correct, part of getting file paths in commands correct is entering them exactly. Please enter *exactly* "ls -l disks/gentoo.c1.qcow2" and post the exact output.
[17:39] <kitto> dmanweb: Just checked, is OK here.
[17:39] <stack> Jordan_U: ls: cannot access disks/gentoo.c1.qcow2: No such file or directory
[17:39] <dmanweb> kitto: thanks
[17:39] <dmanweb> I'll try to re-install
[17:39] <Jordan_U> stack: OK, then the path you passed in your original qemu command was wrong. What is the output of "pwd"?
[17:40] <kyle__> or what's the output of find ./ -name gentoo.c1.qcow2
[17:40] <stack> Jordan_U: /home/stack
[17:41] <Jordan_U> stack: OK, what is the output of  "ls -l /home/stack/gentoo.c1.qcow2" ?
[17:41] <stack> Jordan_U: I have moved /home/stack/gentoo.c1.qcow2 to /home/stack/disks/gentoo.c1.qcow2. And now the
[17:42] <Jordan_U> stack: Good, that's what I suspected the problem was.
[17:42] <stack> Jordan_U: but still the same error comes
[17:43] <Jordan_U> stack: Your comment was cur off at "And now the".
[17:43] <Jordan_U> s/cur/cut/
[17:44] <sweb> i have an error during compile php extension
[17:44] <sweb> checking for FriBidi version... configure: error: fribidi-config not found.
[17:44] <stack> Jordan_U: And now the op of ls -l disks/gentoo.c1.qcow2 is -rwxr-xr-x 1 stack root 2240348160 Jun 26 22:54 disks/gentoo.c1.qcow2
[17:44] <sweb> http://pecl.php.net/package/fribidi
[17:44] <sweb> i install both libfribidi0 libfribidi-dev packages
[17:44] <stack> Jordan_U: and when I execute qemu, I still get this error; qemu: could not open disk image disks/gentoo.c1.qcow2: No such file or directory
[17:46] <Jordan_U> stack: Please run "ls -l disks/gentoo.c1.qcow2" again, now that you've moved the file, and post the output.
[17:46] <stack> Jordan_U: -rwxr-xr-x 1 stack root 2240348160 Jun 26 22:54 disks/gentoo.c1.qcow2
[17:48] <Jordan_U> stack: And what is the exact qemu command you're running?
[17:49] <stack> qemu-0.13.0.rr/x86_64-softmmu/qemu-system-x86_64 -k en-us -m 4096 --enable-kvm --drive file=disks/gentoo.c1.qcow2
[17:50] <rypervenche> Wasn't it said above to use --drive-file= ?
[17:51] <compdoc> stack, please type these two commands in a term window:   sudo updatedb   and then:  sudo locate gentoo.c1.qcow2
[17:51] <Jordan_U> rypervenche: That was my misreading (and misresponse).
[17:52] <JesseC> any crystal report experts in here, or anybody know of any crystal report irc rooms?
[17:52] <Pici> !alis | JesseC
[17:53] <stack> Jordan_U: /home/stack/disks/gentoo.c1.qcow2 /root/disks/gentoo.c1.qcow2
[17:54] <compdoc> use one of those paths then
[17:54] <compdoc> which is newest, or the one you should use?
[17:55] <Jordan_U> stack: You're probably in a different current working directory in the shell where you're running qemu. Using the full path, /home/stack/disks/gentoo.c1.qcow2 , should work no matter what your current directory is.
[17:57] <usr13> stack: compdoc Jordan_U   The tab key is your friend.
[17:58] <compdoc> usr13, will you be my friend?
[17:58] <drag0nius> how do i configure printers on cli?
[17:58] <drag0nius> on server
[17:59] <melkor> drag0nius: cli?
[17:59] <drag0nius> command line
[17:59] <theadmin> drag0nius: Not sure about plain CLI, but CUPS has a web-interface at port 631 if I recall right.
[17:59] <hburg1234> I'll be off. Thanks again
[18:00] <drag0nius> well the thing is
[18:00] <drag0nius> i plugged in the printer, turned it on, but have no idea what next
[18:00] <usr13> drag0nius: lynx localhost:631
[18:00] <khaki> i screwed up installing roundcube, and removed it because i didnt have it setup the database.  now when i reinstall it, it dont ask me the inital questions it did the first time i installed it.  How can i make it act like i never installed it?
[18:01] <usr13> drag0nius: lynx localhost:631 -> Administration -> Add Printer ......
[18:01] <khaki> i even did apt-get purge roundcube
[18:02] <melkor> khaki: does apt have a reconfigure?
[18:02] <rypervenche> khaki: Install it and try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure roundcube"
[18:02] <khaki> root@cloud:/var/www/cagecraze.com/log# dpkg-reconfigure roundcube
[18:02] <khaki> root@cloud:/var/www/cagecraze.com/log#
[18:02] <khaki> it did nothing
[18:03] <rypervenche> khaki: lol, welcome to Ubuntu.
[18:03] <melkor> khaki: check you home directory for a config file. Maybe purge didn't get it.
[18:03] <Mjo> salut, quelqu'un peut il m'aider? je voulais savoir si c'etait possible d'installer Maple story sur Xubuntu?
[18:04] <cantichan> hrmmm
[18:04] <rypervenche> Mjo: Salut, attends je regarde.
[18:04] <cantichan> ubuntu is harder than i thought it would be
[18:04] <Mjo> merci!
[18:04] <Pici> !fr | Mjo
[18:04] <SocialEvil> any idea why flash is laggy with every browser? its like broken gramophone i just installed ubuntu 10.04
[18:05] <usr13> SocialEvil: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:06] <khaki> got it
[18:06] <theadmin> SocialEvil: You might need le propertiary video drivers.
[18:07] <SocialEvil> theadmin, 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M] i have this when when i write lspci
[18:08] <theborger> is weechat a pkg in ubuntu?
[18:08] <theborger> i cant find info on installing using google
[18:08] <Somelauw> In what package can I find multirow for latex?
[18:08] <theadmin> SocialEvil: Cool, install fglrx then (use the "Additional drivers" tool)
[18:08] <theadmin> !info weechat | theborger
[18:09] <drag0nius> how do i finalize adding printer through lynx cups? I'm in set default options screen and dont see any kind of continue
[18:10] <Ac-town> does anyone know if there is a zsh backport for 10.04?
[18:10] <Ac-town> looking for something a bit newer then 4.3.10 that is in 10.04
[18:10] <sweb> i cant find fribidi-config after installation  libfribidi0 libfribidi-dev packages
[18:11] <SocialEvil> theadmin,  i installed fglrx and now in my additional drivers i just have "modem" ..
[18:11] <melkor> Ac-town: have you considered building it?
[18:11] <okapi14> I all, I am on ubuntu lucid but workspace switcher not stop working and ALT + F2 either. Anyone can help?
[18:11] <Ac-town> melkor: I could, but I'd rather stick to a package if possible
[18:11] <drag0nius> guess i had to enter wrong page before adding it for first time, worked this time
[18:13] <trism> Somelauw: texlive-latex-extra I believe
[18:14] <drag0nius> is there way to use printer with server's drivers?
[18:14] <Somelauw> trism: thanks
[18:14] <usr13> drag0nius: What?
[18:14] <drag0nius> it asks me for printer drivers when i try to use it from other comp
[18:15] <usr13> drag0nius: Can't just choose....?
[18:15] <drag0nius> basically there are no windows 7 drivers for printer i connected to ubuntu server
[18:15] <drag0nius> and i want to access it from win7
[18:16] <usr13> drag0nius: What is make and model of your printer?
[18:16] <Dshoe> hey guys, anyone know the best way to sync music to MTP?
[18:16] <drag0nius> hp deskjet 3820, there are some substitue drivers but they throw too much ink i think
[18:17] <drag0nius> couldnt i just make it so it uses server's drivers and not client's?
[18:20] <usr13> drag0nius: Should just show up in the list of drivers.  (Recommended Driver: hplip)
[18:21] <okapi14> I all, I am on ubuntu lucid but workspace switcher stop working and ALT + F2 either. Anyone can help?
[18:21] <sweb> how can i patch this to my ubuntu ?
[18:22] <sweb> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/fribidi/0.19.2-1
[18:22] <sweb> i'm using natty
[18:22] <drag0nius> yeah, but there isnt any way to use server's drivers?
[18:23] <ohptlabs> im using 12.04 LTS and was trying to get my linksys wireless-g 2.4ghz notebook adapter which uses the ACX111 driver, but im not really sure howto get the driver or source to compile the driver on ubuntu
[18:23] <sw> !patch > sweb
[18:23] <kyle__> drag0nius: What "server" are you thinking of?
[18:23] <Dshoe> Does anyone know if Rhythmbox edits ID3 tags? So use to iTunes which I believe does NOT actually edit the ID3 tag when you edit a songs information.
[18:23] <sw> Optichip: the Wireless page has a lot of information on. did you check that first?
[18:23] <drag0nius> ubuntu server machine i have printer connected to
[18:24] <kyle__> drag0nius: If say, you've got it on a mac and are sharing it, then it should use the mac's driver (cups client passes to cups server passes to OSX driver).  If it's a windows share, not so  much.
[18:24] <drag0nius> so basically
[18:24] <kyle__> drag0nius: Sure, if the server is using the real driver, the client can just use it as generic or anything really.  Cups passes it along.
[18:24] <drag0nius> windows is dumb? ;d
[18:24] <kyle__> drag0nius: Very much so.
[18:25] <drag0nius> i get can't connect to printer error
[18:25] <kyle__> drag0nius: But nicely, if you tell windows to connect to an IPP printer that's on CUPS, and that it's a generic windows color imagesetter, it will push postscript at CUPS, and cups will use it's native driver.
[18:26] <kyle__> drag0nius: I think you need help from #cups then.
[18:26] <drag0nius> i need to add users to read list or sth in samba?
[18:26] <drag0nius> got em on valid users right now
[18:27] <kyle__> drag0nius: If it's a windows client, why not try it as an IPP printer first?
[18:27] <craigbass1976> If I chroot with a live cd do /dev/sda1, can I run an update that will affect the installation there?
[18:28] <kyle__> drag0nius: The only downside in windows is the ugly printer-name it makes.
[18:28] <kyle__> drag0nius: And of course if you do IPP first, and it works, then you' know the bulk of the chain is fine, and the smb thing is yoru only problem.
[18:28] <drag0nius> how to do that ipp printer stuff?
[18:29] <drag0nius> from add printer it still prompts me for driver
[18:29] <ohptlabs> where would i look to see if i have the firmware for acx ?
[18:29] <kyle__> drag0nius: You add a printer and give it a host of http://<ip of your server>:631/<printername>, then choose generic drivers, generic windows color imagesetter.
[18:29] <kyle__> drag0nius: Or if you want you can choose the apple drivers, and one of their color PS printers.  That works too.
[18:30] <drag0nius> guess i need to set up cups somehow
[18:30] <drag0nius> cant access it on 631
[18:31] <arulmozhi> how can I open and use programs that are not installed but can be downloaded like eclipse and blender. when I open those exeuctables it shows there is not softwares installed for opening exeutable files.?? what shud I do???
[18:31] <usr13> kyle__: drag0nius just told us his printer was "hp deskjet 3820" which uses the hplip driver.
[18:32] <drag0nius> actually this printer uses some substitution for deskjet 970cse
[18:32] <drag0nius> on win7
[18:32] <kyle__> usr13: He's printing from windows to a CUPS printer.  If you use a generic or postscript driver in windows, CUPS will gobble it up and use the correct driver internally.
[18:32] <usr13> arulmozhi: Not sure what your question is, but if there is an application you need to install it.
[18:33] <kyle__> If you use a native driver in windows to connect to a CUPS printer, it pushes the whole binary mess down the pipe.  With those HP deskjets it's a royal pain.
[18:34] <usr13> kyle__: Oh, I see.  I missed that part.  Well, I suppose he will want to use samba.  But the print drivers will be installed on the MS Windows computer, (not on his ubuntu server).
[18:34] <arulmozhi> usr13: I have downloaded the eclipse for ubuntu from the eclipse website. there i s an executable named eclipse. how to use uninstalled programs???
[18:34] <kyle__> usr13: Yea, but IPP printing is pretty easy as well, and if it works, then he knows the bulk of the setup is good, and it's just some SMB issues to work out.  If it doesn't, he needs to work on the print issues first.
[18:35] <usr13> arulmozhi: Sorry, still don't understand your question.
[18:35] <drag0nius> how do i log in at this cups web config?
[18:35] <drag0nius> from opera actually, when i go to administration i get forbidden
[18:36] <sweb> how can i install some package from ubuntu archive for example older packages version ?
[18:36] <usr13> kyle__: Yea, he first needs to set the printer up for use on the server.  (As if he were to be just using it from the server.)
[18:36] <crofty_> hi , i need help with hp laptop amd64 nvidia - having problems with the nvidia graphics card , it boots up and the screen unreadable in linux mint
[18:36] <kyle__> drag0nius: If I recall, on ubuntu you need to login as a user who is in the lpadmin group.
[18:38] <drag0nius> http://<ip of your server>:631/<printername> does not find printer
[18:39] <drag0nius> yeh, missed /printers/ in the middle :)
[18:39] <kyle__> drag0nius: Maybe it's printers.  It's been awhile....
[18:39] <kyle__> Haha :) That's it.
[18:39] <drag0nius> still asks me for driver
[18:39] <kyle__> drag0nius: Choose a generic one.
[18:39] <andrew91841> Hello all how do I add repos to yum.  Im trying yum install php and it says no package available
[18:39] <drag0nius> ms publisher color printer i guess?
[18:39] <kyle__> drag0nius: THen CUPS will do it's magic (assuming it's setup right in ubuntu)(
[18:39] <theadmin> andrew91841: Wrong channel.
[18:39] <resno> andrew91841: yum in ubuntu?
[18:39] <kyle__> drag0nius: Yup, that will spit out generic color postscript.
[18:40] <melkor> andrew91841: did  you check #fedora?
[18:40] <andrew91841> Well my ec2 instance is ubuntu
[18:40] <theadmin> andrew91841: Yum is not an Ubuntu tool.
[18:40] <andrew91841> How would I otherwise install php?
[18:40] <resno> andrew91841: yum is fedora, apt-get is ubuntu
[18:40] <kyle__> resno: Don't be silly.  andrew91841 is using yellow-dog-linux on his new ppc-macintosh.
[18:40] <andrew91841> Ah.
[18:40] <resno> andrew91841: or aptitude
[18:40] <andrew91841> Thanks
[18:41] <theadmin> andrew91841: Yum is used in Fuduntu, though, you sure that's not the one?
[18:41] <theadmin> (not supported either way though)
[18:42] <melkor> andrew91841: does yum have and update?
[18:42] <drag0nius> itz workin!
[18:42] <fishbait> can you help me make sense of this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1061270 it happened after i added a tv converter box between the pc and 2nd monitor and did hibernate resume.
[18:43] <arulmozhi> usr13: take a look at this: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=33882. I have downloaded the eclipse for ubuntu from the eclipse website. my friend uses ubuntu11.04 when he clicks this icon it launches eclipse but I can't?? how do i do it
[18:46] <BluesKaj> fishbait, whynot give the tv converter box it's own input to the monitor instead of daisy chaining it with the pc ?
[18:47] <compdoc> anyone using zfs on 12.04? how did you install?
[18:47] <fishbait> ... its vga to tv and only 1 extra vga, the one used by my monitor. if my monitor had passthrough i'd do that but its the other way around the box has passthorugh
[18:47] <maslen> Hey, can someone help me set up gdb or objdump on x86-64 linux so that I can disassemble ARM binaries
[18:48] <jeremiah> I am having problems mounting my external hdd. help?
[18:48] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2007786 compdoc
[18:48] <melkor> jeremiah: what happens
[18:48] <aithox> how can i increase ubuntu's drop shadow radius manually??
[18:49] <BluesKaj> fishbait, your converter has vga , interesting
[18:49] <bazhang> aithox, in compiz?
[18:49] <fishbait> yep its vga to tv with vga passthrough
[18:49] <jeremiah__> I am having problems mounting my external hdd. help?
[18:49] <aithox> i dn't want to install compiz bazhang
[18:49] <bazhang> jeremiah__, with fstab?
[18:49] <bazhang> aithox, what version
[18:49] <arulmozhi> take a look at this: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=33882. I have downloaded the eclipse for ubuntu from the eclipse website. my friend uses ubuntu11.04 when he clicks this icon it launches eclipse but I can't?? how do i do it
[18:49] <melkor> jeremiah: what happens?
[18:49] <aithox> 12.04
[18:50] <aaron> quit
[18:50] <jeremiah__> bazhang, i dont understand. what?
[18:50] <aithox> i dn't want to install compiz
[18:50] <melkor> jeremiah: as what are you doing, and what are the results you want.
[18:50] <jeremiah__> melkor, nothing.
[18:50] <bazhang> jeremiah__, you'd put it in fstab
[18:50] <bazhang> !fstab | jeremiah__
[18:50] <jeremiah__> bazhang,  and that is?
[18:50] <aithox> bazhang: how can i do it by hand?
[18:50] <melkor> jeremiah__: if you are doing nothing you should start by pluging in the usb drive.
[18:51] <ohptlabs> in older ubuntu's i was able to use linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` to get some of the extra drivers, but these dont appear to be available in 3.2.0 ?
[18:51] <melkor> bazhang: why do you point him to fstab right away. ubuntu does most of the mounting/umounting automatically.
[18:51] <bazhang> aithox, what exactly is the drop shadow radius
[18:51] <jeremiah__> melkor, i have dobne that, duh. but it is as if i didn't. nothing pops up, not even found
[18:51] <aithox> i mean the shadow around the window
[18:51] <melkor> jeremiah__: can you use a terminal?
[18:52] <jeremiah__> melkor, terminal is my favorite way to go and do something, so yes
[18:53] <melkor> jeremiah__: check to see if a new device appears when you plug in the hdd. I think lsblk will do that.
[18:54] <jeremiah__> melkor,  nothing pops up. it is as if i didn't even plug it in.
[18:54] <bazhang> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/how-to-get-bigger-compiz-shadows-under-app-windows aithox its done through compizconfig-settings-manager or gconf-editor see the link
[18:54] <bazhang> aithox, ^
[18:54] <fishbait> can you help me make sense of this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1061270 it happened after i added a tv converter box using vga passthrough between the pc and 2nd monitor and did hibernate resume.
[18:55] <aithox> bazhang: can i do it without compiz ? i'm afraid of using that, it broke my ubuntu several times
[18:55] <jeremiah__> bazhang, and fstab was my second thing i tried. didn't work
[18:55] <jeremiah__> *the
[18:55] <bazhang> aithox, with gconf-editore as I said
[18:55] <bazhang> minus the e
[18:56] <melkor> jeremiah__: did you try 'ls /dev/sd' and press tab to see if you have an entry for your usb device. It should be a letter after you internal hdds.
[18:56] <aithox> bazhang: the package name is gconf-editor ?
[18:56] <jeremiah__> melkor, in terminal, or what?
[18:56] <melkor> jeremiah__: yes
[18:57] <jeremiah__> melkor, sda   sda1  sda2  sda5  sda6  sdb
[18:57] <bazhang> !info gconf-editor | aithox
[18:57] <melkor> jeremiah__: so possibly sdb is your external hdd.
[18:57] <jeremiah__> melkor, i guess.
[18:58] <melkor> jeremiah__: have you used it before is it partitioned/formatted?
[18:58] <jeremiah__> melkor, yes. i unpluged it and sdb is not there
[18:58] <jeremiah__> melkor, yes i formatted it not long ago
[18:58] <jeremiah__> and yes i have used it
[18:59] <melkor> jeremiah__: that is strange it should have a list of partitions afterwards, ie sdb1 ect.
[18:59] <melkor> jeremiah__: you can try mounting it though. make a directory and 'sudo mount sdb you/new/directory'
[19:00] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: Can you pastebin the outptu of "sudo parted -l"?
[19:01] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, will have it in a moment
[19:01] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/fxcfdzWD
[19:02] <ohptlabs> whats the command to ask the bots things?
[19:02] <jeremiah__> melkor, i am not that good at stuff like that, how would i make a new directory?
[19:03] <melkor> mkdir name_of_dir
[19:03] <wo33lock> ok
[19:03] <bazhang> ohptlabs, /msg ubottu  find package, info package etc
[19:03] <tyler_d> I'm wondering how do you get youtube video's from terminal... used to be: 1. watch it. 2. grep for the process then the plugin 3. do an lsof on the pid 4. search for "deleted" 5. browse to the fd of the process and copy...
[19:03] <ohptlabs> bazhang, thanks
[19:03] <fishbait> can you help me make sense of this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1061270 particularly line 85 it happened after i added a tv converter box using vga passthrough between the pc and 2nd monitor and did hibernate resume.
[19:03] <bazhang> tyler_d, youtube-dl
[19:03] <theadmin> tyler_d: There's a simplier way, holy hell. Google "youtube-dl"
[19:04] <BluesKaj> tyler_d, youtubedl or wget
[19:04] <bazhang> tyler_d, youtube-dl url -t
[19:04] <tyler_d> bazhang: that's excellent someone scripted it, so we have moved beyond understanding how it works?
[19:04] <tyler_d> BluesKaj: how with wget?
[19:04] <bazhang> tyler_d, the -t switch will give it an actual name
[19:05] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: The fact that parted doesn't even recognise a disk label means that something odd is going on. Were you using something odd like Windows Dynamic Disks?
[19:05] <BluesKaj> tyler_d, wget the url
[19:05] <ohptlabs> oi getting this wireless adapter to work is making me want to shoot myself in the head
[19:05] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, no.
[19:05] <theadmin> tyler_d: Basic idea is to find where youtube stores the actual FLV, which such scripts do. You can look in the sourcecode to find the algorythm.
[19:06] <melkor> Jordan_U: is there something strange about fat32 and 4gig files?
[19:06] <ohptlabs> i dont understand why it would work with 8.04 but not 12.04, the driver that is
[19:06] <tyler_d> theadmin: ty for the info and the app, I will have to dig at it
[19:07] <tyler_d> p.s. BluesKaj htat doesn't work with the wget
[19:07] <ohptlabs> melkor, yeah i dont think fat 32 deals with them right
[19:07] <melkor> ohptlabs: but it is only large files, not large partitions?
[19:08] <mr_burns> hello
[19:08] <mr_burns> how long is please a booting area at the beginning of partition with boot flag containing oem windows C: ? i saved recovery with dd, partition table with sfdisk and want to save the beginning of the C: to be able to fully restor computer later from saved recovery
[19:08] <drag0nius> how do i add startup programs to ubuntu server?
[19:09] <melkor> jeremiah__: can you look at what devices you have under /dev/mmcblk0?
[19:09] <LjL> mr_burns: i think ##windows would know that better
[19:09] <theadmin> drag0nius: There are several ways. /etc/rc.local is always executed at bootup, so you may add the stuff there.
[19:09] <bazhang> mr_burns, how does ubuntu come into this
[19:09] <ohptlabs> melkor, i believe so, however i know at some point you have to use ntfs for larger areas
[19:09] <mr_burns> LjL: thanks .. you're true
[19:09] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo dd if=/dev/sdd bs=512 count=1 | od"?
[19:09] <jeremiah__> melkor, how?
[19:10] <melkor> jeremiah__: ls /dev/mmcblk*
[19:10] <jeremiah__>  | od
[19:10] <jeremiah__> dd: opening `/dev/sdd': No such file or directory
[19:10] <jeremiah__> 0000000
[19:10] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U,  ^
[19:10] <jeremiah__> melkor, /dev/mmcblk0  /dev/mmcblk0p1
[19:10] <melkor> jeremiah__: Do you have another for of media plugged in?
[19:10] <BluesKaj> tyler_d, yeah , i used to be able to make wget work , but the videos no longer display the actual url  , like on non youtube sites
[19:11] <jeremiah__> melkor, yes.
[19:11] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: What about "ls -l /dev/sdd"?
[19:11] <melkor> Jordan_U: do you mean /dev/sdb?
[19:11] <Jordan_U> melkor: D'oh, yes.
[19:11] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, ls: cannot access /dev/sdd: No such file or directory
[19:11] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo dd if=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 | od"?
[19:12] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: I had the wrong device name, sorry.
[19:12] <nuketro0p3r> I want to wait my program to wait for a button action listener in Java. Any ideaS?
[19:12] <daviddoria> when I run "check for updates" in muon, it returns "0 upgradeable". I haven't run updates in weeks - any idea why this would be?
[19:12] <nuketro0p3r> pause *
[19:12] <Pici> nuketro0p3r: Ask in ##java
[19:12] <melkor> nuketro0p3r: is this the correct channel?
[19:12] <drag0nius> rc.local is run with root permissions right?
[19:12] <nuketro0p3r> :o
[19:12] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/1ebvAY8e
[19:12] <drag0nius> so i just put up path to script i want to run on startup before exit 0?
[19:13] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: The first sector of your drive is all zeroes. Do you have any idea why that might be?
[19:13] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U,  no clue
[19:14] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: Did you have valuable data on this drive?
[19:14] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, i formatted it yesterday, so no.
[19:14] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U,  just neeed more space
[19:14] <bobrm2> I ran a recent upgrade to Ubuntu 11.10, now I can't get into GRUB or past the AM login logo
[19:15] <thederpherder> Hey I'm having some trouble setting up my first xen pv vm. I'm following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenProposed   and am having trouble creating the VM now. It looks like it's trying to install the OS but the shit is erroring out during the install. What am I missing? Here is my console log that shows my LVM setup and my config file for the VM as well as the console output when I am trying to create the VM. http://pastebin.c
[19:15] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: What tool did you use to "format" it? You can solve this problem by just using GParted to put a proper partition table and filesystem on it, but I'm curious how you got to this point.
[19:16] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U,  i took out my ssd from my lappy, and did it through bios.
[19:16] <bobrm2> join
[19:17] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U,  i had ubuntu 11.10 on it, and didn't need it. but i couldn't delete any files because it was encripted.
[19:17] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U,  so via bios, i formatted it.
[19:17] <hggghffgh> hi, i have a printer issue. can anyone help me?
[19:17] <theadmin> jeremiah__: BIOS' don't normally offer formatting tools (a BIOS won't even know what a filesystem is). Do you mean a full wipe?
[19:17] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U,  interestingly, it worked before format, but useless sinse full
[19:17] <bazhang> hggghffgh, whats the printer name and model
[19:17] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: OK. It sounds like your BIOS simply wrote zeroes to the entire drive then. You'll need to create a partition table, then create a partition with a filesystem. Again, I recommend using GParted for this.
[19:18] <hggghffgh> hp laserJET p1005
[19:18] <jeremiah__> theadmin, sorry, yes. that is what i meant
[19:18] <theadmin> hggghffgh: More importantly, what is your issue?
[19:18] <bazhang> hggghffgh, and what does linuxprinting.org database have to say about that printer
[19:18] <theadmin> hggghffgh: For HP printers, try "sudo apt-get install hplip"
[19:18] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, this is the part i don't know much about.
[19:18] <hggghffgh> everithing seems to be in order, but the printer is remaining silent
[19:19] <hggghffgh> and wont star
[19:19] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U,  hay, sweet! in gparted, it shows it!
[19:19] <thederpherder> has anyone here installed xen xcp on ubuntu and created a PV ubuntu VM? I'm having some issues and need a hand. =(
[19:19] <theadmin> jeremiah__: sudo fdisk /dev/sda. From there, "o" and then "w" -- that will pretty much re-initialize the entire drive.
[19:19] <hggghffgh> i have had ubuntu 11.10, there everything was normal
[19:20] <hggghffgh> i upgraded to 12.04 LTS, and it stopped working.
[19:20] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: Do *not* run theadmin's command!
[19:20] <theadmin> hggghffgh: Check if hplip is installed and up-to-date: sudo apt-get install hplip
[19:20] <jeremiah__> theadmin, umm... WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy.
[19:20] <ohptlabs> hggghffgh, yeah that happened with me and my wireless card
[19:20] <guntbert> I want an option "restart" (or reboot) in the system menu
[19:21] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U,  oh sh!t
[19:21] <theadmin> Jordan_U: Err, thought he wanted to initialize a partition table?
 i have already installed HPLIP
[19:21] <rinzler> is there a simple volume control that drops down from the menu bar? If there is or was, i must have lost it somehow. PavuControl is getting a lillke too cumbersome
[19:21] <bobrm2> I have to use the on/off switch on the PSU, to start the box, then the on switch on the front, the turn one the monitor, the  I see the Acer logo/American Mega trends, then the "Hibernate", nothing
[19:21] <theadmin> hggghffgh: Ah, okay then.
[19:21] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: It's fine, nothing is broken yet.
[19:21] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, what did i do!
[19:21] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, wheew... that scared me.
[19:21] <hggghffgh> theadmin: thanks, anyway ;)
[19:21] <rhodes>  Lubuntu 12.04 Network-Manager not initiating on boot-up  Please help
[19:21] <theadmin> rinzler: There is "volumeicon" -- might not be in the repos but it's small
[19:21] <Jordan_U> theadmin: They're tryng to partition *sdb*, sda is their internal drive. You need to be *much* more careful when giving advice like that.
[19:22] <theadmin> Jordan_U: Oh, ouch.
[19:22] <theadmin> Jordan_U: Sorry, I just assume they'll replace it with proper drives... Guess that's not too safe
[19:22] <beachbum> hi
[19:22] <theadmin> rinzler: http://softwarebakery.com/maato/volumeicon.html
[19:22] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, theadmin it says when i reboot, does this mean i added a partition to my hdd or wipe it?!
[19:22] <ohptlabs> arg and the ubuntuforums just link help for 8.04
[19:22] <ignitionnight> Can anybody help me with dropbox. I tried to install it from the Software Center, but it never finished and now the software center has searching as a pending action I can't cancel. and now I can't uninstall dropbox either.
[19:22] <beachbum> hullo
[19:23] <thederpherder> ello
[19:23] <bazhang> hggghffgh, did you check the website for your printer. they will tell you exactly what you need
[19:23] <beachbum> fak you
[19:23] <guntbert> beachbum: stop
[19:23] <bazhang> beachbum, dont say that here
[19:23] <beachbum> ok
[19:23] <beachbum> sorry
[19:23]  * thederpherder slaps beachbum around a bit with a large trout.
[19:23] <bazhang> !ot | beachbum
[19:24] <beachbum> how are you ?
[19:24] <bazhang> thederpherder, take that elsewhere please
[19:24] <beachbum> what will we do here ?
[19:24] <bazhang> beachbum, this is not the chat channel
[19:24] <thederpherder> bazhang: Ok if you help me ^.^
[19:24] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: theadmin's directions would have wiped your partition table (which, while it would have made it look like your data was all gone, it's actually fairly easy to fix). Since the drive was in use, fdisk was not able to overwrite the partition table and so nothing actually happened (I think, I will ask you to run some commands to confirm that that's the case).
[19:24] <bazhang> thederpherder, thats not the way it goes.
[19:25] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U,  please, do.
[19:25] <rinzler> theadmin: Thanks!
[19:25] <theadmin> rinzler: No problems
[19:25] <thederpherder> then you get the trout too!
[19:25] <thederpherder>  /me slaps bazhang around a bit with a large trout.
[19:25] <jeremiah__> bazhang, bad case of blackmail?
[19:26] <jeremiah__> sweet
[19:26] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: Please copy the output form your terminal starting from when you entered "sudo fdisk /dev/sda" up to now, and post it to pastebin.
[19:26] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, sorry, i closed it already. :(
[19:27] <jeremiah__> run it again?
[19:27] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: That's OK. Please pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -lu".
[19:28] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/nhDJjWuC
[19:29] <patie> hi, i want install ruby and redmine on existing lamp localhost...  i trying this tutor http://www.xunilarium.com/2012/05/how-to-install-redmine-201-on-ubuntu.html  but on restart apache i give error - httpd: Syntax error on line 112 of /opt/lampstack/apache2/conf/httpd.conf: Cannot load /opt/lampstack/apache2/modules/mod_passenger.so into server: /opt/lampstack/common/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14' not found (required by /opt/lampst
[19:29] <patie> ubuntu 12*
[19:29] <fidel> patie: why is your apache in /opt ? seems like you are not using the defailt method to install at least apache on a ubuntu system
[19:30] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: I was wrong, your partition table has been wiped. You can recover your partition table with a tool called "testdisk".
[19:30] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U,  ok, how???
[19:30] <patie> fidel: im new in ubuntu i migrate from windows about 3 months back :))
[19:30] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: I'll walk you through it.
[19:30] <ikonia> fidel: that doesn't explain why apache is in /opt
[19:30] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U,  please...
[19:30] <ikonia> oops patie I mean
[19:31] <patie> ikonia: because i install it in opt/
[19:31] <ikonia> patie: how
[19:31] <ikonia> patie: the ubuntu packages don't install to opt
[19:31] <fidel> patie: i am not going into that in detail - sorry (out of time) ...but apache should be usualy in /etc/apache - finding at in /opt sounds like you are using an unusual method. not sure how that helps - but on a first impression i would look for another guide/tutorial
[19:31] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: First, run "sudo apt-get install testdisk".
[19:31] <patie> ikonia: im wizard.. :) no im joking http://bitnami.org/stack/lampstack
[19:32] <fidel> hehe bitnami is a totaly other story
[19:32] <patie> fidel: problem ? :)
[19:32] <ikonia> patie: that is not a good application to use
[19:32] <fidel> but its still not the way "you should do it in theory"
[19:32] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U,  ok, wait a moment...
[19:32] <ikonia> patie: the lamp stack are available from within ubuntu's own packages
[19:33] <ikonia> patie: these are external / 3rd party packages that are "generic" rather than built for ubuntu
[19:33] <fidel> bitname is somehow focused on getting it to work without messing around - which might be nice asstarter ...but gets ugly on a long time view
[19:33] <patie> ikonia: so backup databse/htdocs ... remove bitnami stack and install lamp from packages ?
[19:33] <ikonia> patie: that sounds a good idea
[19:33] <fidel> yep
[19:33] <patie> you will help in case of problems? : P
[19:33] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, ok, finished
[19:33] <ikonia> patie: sure
[19:33] <patie> thanks :)
[19:33] <patie> i go try it ! :P
[19:34] <jeremiah__> grammar!
[19:34] <jeremiah__> lol..
[19:35] <ohptlabs> so i goto the wireless page that ubottu sent me to, found my wireless adapter and it says it is supposed to work out of the box since feisty, and lspci -v lists that it is there, but the network manager isn't showing any wireless adapters
[19:36] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: Ok. Now run "sudo testdisk /dev/sda" and pastebin what you see in the terminal (if you're having trouble getting it via text, then take a screenshot).
[19:36] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | jeremiah__
[19:38] <patie> what is better
[19:38] <patie> 1. clear install each lamp part http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-apache2-with-php5-and-mysql-support-on-ubuntu-12.04-lts-lamp
[19:38] <patie> 2. or tasksel  way ? http://hackapc.com/tips-for-installing-lamp-on-ubuntu-12.04-precise-pangolin.html
[19:38] <FloodBot1> patie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:38] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, http://imagebin.org/218501
[19:39] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: Ok, hit Enter to proceed and post another screenshot.
[19:40] <hpuxsux> hello, does anyone how to run vmware with root privilges?
[19:40] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, http://imagebin.org/218503
[19:40] <hpuxsux> hello, does anyone how to run vmware with root privileges?	
[19:41] <guntbert> hpuxsux: thats a *bad idea* ™
[19:41] <hpuxsux> guntbert: yep, but i need to mount a physical drive
[19:41] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: Select Intel (by pressing enter). And from here on out assume I want the next screenshot :)
[19:41] <jeremiah__> ya...
[19:42] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, http://imagebin.org/218504
[19:43] <guntbert> hpuxsux: at the moment I still can see no reason - but I may err
[19:43] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: Analyse
[19:44] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, http://imagebin.org/218505
[19:44] <hpuxsux> guntbert: with normal account it's impossible to create a physical disk for a vm, because vmware can't see the hardware. And i need a physical disk in the vm,  so i can check the filesystem (ntfs)
[19:44] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: Quick Search
[19:45] <jeremiah__> http://imagebin.org/218506
[19:45] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, ^
[19:46] <maggigix> salut tout le monde!
[19:46] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: Yes.
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[19:47] <maggigix> euh... vous etes français?
[19:47] <fidel> maggigix: no - just our bot can speak it ;)
[19:47] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, http://imagebin.org/218509
[19:47] <fidel> please read his french message ;)
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> bot is a she: she talks a lot when you don't want it ;)
[19:48] <guntbert> hpuxsux: sorry, I don't know enough about vmware - but have a look at http://www.novell.com/support/kb/doc.php?id=7001976  it can start you going (important part: edit fstab)
[19:49] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: Good, it looks like testdisk found all of your partitions.
[19:49] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, good!
[19:49] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U,  so, now what? (in the term.)
[19:49] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: Press enter.
[19:50] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, http://imagebin.org/218510
[19:50] <ohptlabs> is git like what cvs used to be?
[19:50] <patie> what is better  way ? 1. clear install each lamp part http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-apache2-with-php5-and-mysql-support-on-ubuntu-12.04-lts-lamp 2. or tasksel  way ? http://hackapc.com/tips-for-installing-lamp-on-ubuntu-12.04-precise-pangolin.html   ? thanks
[19:50] <ryan__> ohptlabs: no
[19:51] <patie> cc ikonia fidel ^^
[19:51] <ohptlabs> ryan__, okay, thanks
[19:51] <ikonia> patie: sorry, I was just doing something else
[19:51] <ikonia> !lamp | patie
[19:51] <ikonia> patie: check out that info
[19:51] <AlanBell> ohptlabs: git and CVS are both version control systems, git is newer and quite popular. Ubuntu projects use bzr on Launchpad
[19:51] <patie> ikonia: thanks
[19:51] <ryan__> ohptlabs: if you approach git as a 'better cvs' you will be screwed up
[19:51] <ikonia> patie: sorry about that, wasn't watching
[19:51] <fidel> ohptlabs: git is a versioning system - born/developed at start mainly for kernel-devlopment. its heavily used nowadays - similar to other techs like svn etc - i bet the wiki article will offer much more details
[19:52] <uw> Hi i was on here a week ago asking about why loading flash videos (and all flash stuff) was so slow.  running LTS 10.04 and my video card is raedon HD4350
[19:52] <ohptlabs> ryan__ no ive just been using linux for 15 years now, but dont always stay current with what is going on development wise. im just trying to get this wireless adapter to work now that upgraded lubuntu from 11.10 to 12.04
[19:53] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: The slightly bad news is that while testdisk has found all your partitions, it's planning to number them slightly differently, and it's planning to make them all primary partitions. I do *not* think this will cause problems, but it is a change you should be aware of in case anything does go wrong.
[19:53] <ohptlabs> and thank you alen and fidel
[19:53] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, so, in simpler terms, what did it do?
[19:54] <ryan__> ohptlabs: well git is kind of 'the' new soource control system. the other ones liek bzr and hg are not nearly as popular. mostly due to github
[19:54] <ryan__> so ubuntu 12.04, X crashes every time i exit my x-session/window manager
[19:55] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: It hasn't changed anything yet, but it looked through your disk and found the filesystems there (which exist, even though your partition table currently says you have no partitions). If you select "Write" (which is what you should do next), it will write a partition table which has partitions for all of your filesystems.
[19:55] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: Select "Write".
[19:56] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U,  Write partition table, confirm ? (Y/N)
[19:56] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: Y
[19:56] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, You will have to reboot for the change to take effect.
[19:56] <jeremiah__>  (ok)
[19:57] <jeremiah__> reboot now, i guess?
[19:57] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: Good, now quit testdisk and run "sudo grub-install /dev/sda". Then (if that reports no errors), reboot.
[19:57] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, just close term, or hit enter?
[19:58] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: You should now be at a menu with a "Quit" option (if not, post another screenshot).
[19:58] <jeremiah__> only [Ok]
[19:58] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: Hit Enter.
[19:59] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, i just opened another term, and all went well, so ya...
[19:59] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: OK. Do you have a LiveCD/USB handy in case Ubuntu fails to boot?
[19:59] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, ok, i found quit, now, reboot?
[19:59] <jeremiah__> Jordan_U, yes....
[20:00] <Jordan_U> jeremiah__: Then yes, reboot.
[20:00] <jeremiah__> i hope it doesn't...
[20:01] <Santicomputer> someone help me
[20:01] <Santicomputer> I can't see windows files
[20:01] <Santicomputer> from ubuntu
[20:01] <fidel> !enter > Santicomputer
[20:01] <jeremiah> Jordan_U,  wheew. it worked.
[20:01] <Jordan_U> jeremiah: :)
[20:01] <fidel> Santicomputer: do you see your windows partition in nautilus?
[20:02] <Santicomputer> no I don't
[20:02] <jeremiah> Jordan_U,  :))
[20:02] <Jordan_U> jeremiah: Now you can get back to partitioning your external drive with GParted :)
[20:02] <jeremiah> ^double chin
[20:02] <fidel> Santicomputer: do you have > 1 disk?
[20:02] <jeremiah> Jordan_U, ya! lols...
[20:02] <Santicomputer> no I only have 1 disk
[20:02] <jeremiah> Jordan_U, k, so how do i do that?
[20:02] <fidel> Santicomputer: open nautilus and click the disk icon in the sidebar - under Devices
[20:02] <jeremiah> other than open gparted...
[20:03] <Kartagis> does anybody happen to know why dropbox stalls for me at 99% ?
[20:03] <Jordan_U> jeremiah: I actually need to leave now, hopefully someone else can help you with that.
[20:03] <fidel> that should be enough in theory to mount the windows partition on that 1 disk
[20:03] <jeremiah> Jordan_U, well, thanks for all the other help!
[20:03] <fidel> ensure that your windows itself isnt in some kind of sleep state
[20:03] <fidel> so windows must be properly shutdown first
[20:04] <Jordan_U> jeremiah: You're welcome :)
[20:04] <jeremiah> bye.
[20:04] <Santicomputer> fidel: I don't know how to ensure if windows is properly shutdown
[20:04] <jeremiah> Can someone help me partition a completely wiped   hdd?
[20:04] <jeremiah> i am new to it..
[20:06] <Zyewni> jeremiah: external hd?
[20:06] <Kartagis> jeremiah: use fdisk or gparted
[20:06] <jeremiah> Zyewni, yes
[20:07] <Zyewni> jeremiah: then as Kartagis said, use gparted
[20:07] <jeremiah> Kartagis,  i am new to that, thus not sure 100% of how, i don't want to screw up.
[20:07] <jeremiah> Zyewni, ^
[20:07] <Zyewni> jeremiah, if it's wiped, who cares? lol
[20:07] <Zyewni> just wipe it and start again
[20:07] <jeremiah> like for the new partition, what do i put as the file system?
[20:07] <Zyewni> It really is pretty simple though
[20:07] <Kartagis> jeremiah: gparted is pretty straightforward
[20:07] <Zyewni> Depends what you want to put in it
[20:08] <Kartagis> jeremiah: ntfs would be useful
[20:08] <jeremiah> um, files, vids, pictures, etc.
[20:08] <Zyewni> jeremiah: ext4 is what linux uses, but windows can't access it. If you want windows to be able to access it, NTFS is the best choice
[20:08] <Kartagis> jeremiah: if you are going to use it on a windows as well, definitely ntfs
[20:09] <jeremiah> ok...
[20:09] <Kartagis> linux uses ext4, among a few other
[20:09] <jeremiah> that was my main question.
[20:09] <Zyewni> jeremiah: there are some differences, but really you should be fine with either EXT or NTFS. If you want to access the partition from Windows though, you MUST use NTFS
[20:09] <jeremiah> ok.
[20:10] <jeremiah> so, after i made a new one, do i just close it?
[20:10] <Kartagis> close what? the program? no, you apply changes
[20:10] <Zyewni> Jeremiah: After you're finished partitioning? Yes. Just close it down (don't forget to hit Apply though)
[20:11] <Zyewni> Hit Apply and let it finish before closing. Once it's finished, close gparted and enjoy your HD
[20:11] <jeremiah> oks. thanks! i think that is all i needed...
[20:12] <Zyewni> Should be
[20:12] <Zyewni> Does anyone know how to change the messages in the console? For example, when it says 'permission denied'. I'd like to change that text to something of my choosing.
[20:14] <jeremiah> if i have to partitions, for two os's, is it possible to resize one from the os that DIDN'T make it?
[20:14] <Zyewni> Which OS.
[20:14] <Zyewni> Jeremiah: Which OS?
[20:14] <alusion> Is there an equivalent to driver genius for ubuntu
[20:14] <guntbert> Is there a way to get the  option "restart" (or reboot) in the system menu ?
[20:16] <ShamanBrah> Hey I have a question regarding xUbuntu
[20:16] <guntbert> alusion: what is "driver genius" ?
[20:16] <jeremiah> Zyewni, welll, basicaly, i am running ubuntu next to ubuntu. one ubuntu got messed up a little bit (i screwed the graphics drivers a bit, and cant fix them) and am slowly moving stuff from it to my new one, then ounce empty, i shall delete that partition entirely.
[20:16] <alusion> It scans for drivers and will update, install,  and backup drivers
[20:16] <Capac1ty> Is there any problem with creating a user using their email?  i.e. info@domain.com
[20:16] <jeremiah> but i need to make this partition bigger.
[20:16] <ShamanBrah> What would be the best way to go about turning a folder back into bootable iso format after making changes to a .dll file within one of the directories
[20:16] <Zyewni> Jeremiah: Ok, so one Ubuntu is deleting another?
[20:16] <ShamanBrah> I basically changed a line of hex to make the Windows image a force install
[20:17] <bazhang> ShamanBrah, a .dll on ubuntu?
[20:17] <ShamanBrah> and now I want it re-ISO'd
[20:17] <Zyewni> Jeremiah: I don't see how that would be a problem, but I'm not an expert
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> ShamanBrah  dll sounds like windows
[20:17] <ShamanBrah> It is my man
[20:17] <jeremiah> no, i have two ubuntus, one bad, one good. and for some reason, i can't make the ubuntu that i am using, partition bigger.
[20:17] <Capac1ty> Anyone know?  I'm asking because I am setting up email, and would like them to use info@domain.com as their login when using their client
[20:17] <ShamanBrah> I'm on xubuntu atm
[20:17] <bazhang> ShamanBrah, this is not the channel to ask in
[20:18] <ShamanBrah> I'm basically making changes to a windows .iso file that I will be installing on my desktop
[20:18] <ShamanBrah> I'm doing this on xubuntu
[20:18] <bazhang> ##windows ShamanBrah
[20:18] <ShamanBrah> -_______-
[20:18] <ShamanBrah> I'm asking here because I'm editing the .ISO on an xubuntu computer
[20:18] <ShamanBrah> I just want to know how to re-iso a folder after I've extracted the ISO to make a change to it
[20:19] <jeremiah> is it not possible to edit a partition, while using(booted onto it)?
[20:19] <theadmin> ShamanBrah: genisoimage -o something.iso yourfolder
[20:19] <Zyewni> Do you have a USB key?
[20:19] <Zyewni> Or a blank DVD?
[20:19] <Capac1ty> Noone?
[20:20] <ShamanBrah> will genisoimage allow me to make the iso a bootable ISO?
[20:20] <ShamanBrah> That's the main issue here
[20:20] <guntbert> !please | Capac1ty
[20:20] <mongo> hi, in 12.04 when I lock the screen the dash tool bar and the top bar are visible, my search foo is not finding a fix
[20:20] <ShamanBrah> I can make an iso but I'm not sure how to create a bootable iso from a folder on xubuntu
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> ShamanBrah  try brasero http://www.tuxarena.com/static/tut_iso_ubuntu.php
[20:20] <ShamanBrah> That's what I'm using already
[20:21] <ShamanBrah> It doesn't have an option to make a bootable ISO
[20:21] <ShamanBrah> only a data cd and a couple other options
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> ShamanBrah  the link shows other options
[20:21] <ShamanBrah> okay thanks I'll look into it
[20:22] <ShamanBrah> Ah K3b
[20:22] <ShamanBrah> That seems like it would solve my problem
[20:22] <ShamanBrah> I'm a bit of a noob so don't me asking how I would get k3b on xubuntu
[20:22] <ShamanBrah> Isn't it for kubuntu or something
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> ShamanBrah  there's also this http://www.hecticgeek.com/2011/11/how-to-create-an-iso-disk-image-from-folder-file-in-ubuntu/
[20:24] <ShamanBrah> Alright
[20:24] <ShamanBrah> I'll attempt that but are you sure that guide will give me the option to create a "bootable ISO"
[20:24] <ShamanBrah> the image is a slightly modified Windows 7 installer
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> ShamanBrah  you want a bootable windows iso?
[20:25] <ShamanBrah> I have one but I editied it slightly to force install an upgrade install
[20:25] <mongo> found it, appears there is no fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/734908
[20:25] <ShamanBrah> so I can keep my files and uncorrupt my Windows
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> ShamanBrah  guess that's not possible
[20:25] <ShamanBrah> IMMPOSSIBRU?
[20:26] <ShamanBrah> I can't believe the all powerful ubuntu can't create a bootable iso
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> ShamanBrah  it can, but not a bootable *windows* iso
[20:27] <Kartagis> does anybody happen to know why dropbox stalls for me at 99% ?
[20:27] <ShamanBrah> Damn it
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> ShamanBrah  blame MS for that
[20:28] <Arash> hi ;)
[20:30] <ignitionnight> Kartagis: I am having the SAME problem man
[20:31] <ignitionnight> The software center basically stopped working for me after I tried to install dropbox
[20:33] <Nuclear_muffin> tu
[20:34] <Nuclear_muffin> Im having a problem with sound its for some reason not turning on when i do it freezes my comp
[20:35] <Nuclear_muffin> what do i do?
[20:35] <OerHeks> ignitionnight, Kartagis lots of bugreports and workarounds > http://forums.dropbox.com/topic.php?id=62946
[20:38] <rymate1234> pidgin ftww
[20:39] <rymate1234> no more microsoft skype client
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> rymate1234  did you get the webcam to work?
[20:39] <bekks> There's a linux skype client too ;)
[20:39] <rymate1234> bekks, still microsoft skype client :P
[20:39] <rymate1234> and it looks ugleh
[20:39] <OPPluto> hullo all
[20:39] <rymate1234> MonkeyDust, don't use webcam :P
[20:40] <OPPluto> any thought on how to best exploit an SSD? root /home /tmp big fat swap partition?
[20:40] <bekks> OPPluto: No big swap needed.
[20:40] <bekks> Just a waste of space.
[20:42] <OPPluto> I know it's normally not needed but SSD is fast and stuff gets aggressively cached.
[20:42] <utrz> hi
[20:42] <bekks> OPPluto: That doesnt give more sense to a big swap partition.
[20:43] <rymate1234> I would use an SSD for a 1GB swap and my / directory
[20:43] <utrz> how to grep something greater than an number
[20:43] <rymate1234> My /home woul be mounted on a traditional hdd
[20:43] <OerHeks> reduce swapiness, i mounted my SSD > UUID=...  /               ext4    noatime,discard,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr 0       1
[20:43] <utrz> ?
[20:44] <OPPluto> home on my main machine is way to big to be on an SSD. so that's out.
[20:44] <bekks> OPPluto: /home !? /
[20:44] <Somefynn> good evening!
[20:44] <bekks>  != :)
[20:45] <bekks> OPPluto: The root directory is not meant to be your /home, and /home on an SSD is a waste of space in most cases, too.
[20:45] <OPPluto> my /home partition is 1.5TB
[20:45] <jeremiah> I am having problems with partitioning, as in, not being able to resize and delete a few
[20:45] <bekks> My home is 1G, and my /store is 2TB ;)
[20:46] <jeremiah> bekks, wow...
[20:47] <OerHeks> jeremiah, make sure the disk is unmounted, before making any changes.
[20:47] <OerHeks> use a live cd - gparted
[20:47] <jeremiah> OerHeks, tanks, that may have been my prob...
[20:47] <i7c> OPPluto: if you wanna speed up you put / on SSD. home doesnt make sense, swap is not neccessary on modern machines with plenty of RAM
[20:48] <dj_ryan> consider hybrid hdd/flash. they rawk.
[20:48] <OerHeks> swap is needed, only for sleep/hybernate*
[20:48] <jeremiah> OerHeks, if i am on/using the partition, can i still unmount it so i can make it larger?
[20:48] <i7c> OerHeks: agreed.
[20:48] <bekks> jeremiah: No.
[20:49] <i7c> jeremiah: you can boot with a live cd / usb drive and run gparted
[20:49] <OerHeks> jeremiah, if it is the system disc you are on now, no
[20:49] <utrz> hello
[20:49] <jeremiah> thanks for the answers! now must pull out a live disk...
[20:50] <OerHeks> gparted live iso is small
[20:50] <jeremiah> what linux would have it already installed? (gparted) or do they all?
[20:50] <utrz> i need the equivalent of this command : ls -hal |grep <1GB
[20:50] <bekks> jeremiah: gparted live has gparted installed. ;)
[20:50] <bekks> utrz: Use find and sort instead.
[20:50] <jeremiah> bekks,  gparted live is the live cd, correct?
[20:51] <bekks> jeremiah: Correct.
[20:51] <jeremiah> is on
[20:51] <jeremiah> ok, thanks again!
[20:51] <OerHeks> Gparted is available on the live iso, and not in the install
[20:51] <OerHeks> odd
[20:52] <hopeless8009> can someone tell me how to fix my software dependincys
[20:52] <utrz> using grep not possible ?
[20:52] <bekks> utrz: No.
[20:52] <bekks> utrz: Not without messing with grep -e and regular expressions.
[20:54] <OerHeks> hopeless8009, what are the errors?
[20:54] <OerHeks> use paste.ubuntu.com for multiple lines
[20:55] <hopeless8009> OerHeks, softwar index is broken
[20:55] <utrz> what with grep - e ?
[20:55] <utrz> you mean its possible with grep - e ?
[20:56] <hopeless8009> OerHeks, says to run sudo apt-get install -f
[20:57] <hopeless8009> OerHeks, but it woun't run says it cant find some derectors
[20:58] <OerHeks> hopeless8009, copy that to paste.ubuntu.com and give us the url
[20:58] <pjotter> Does anybody know how to change the default file manager in Xubuntu 12.04. I would like to change it from Thunar to Xfe. But for some reason, changing it in settingsmanager doesn't do anything. The default seems to be stuck on thunar.
[20:58] <OerHeks> and what were you trying to install?
[20:58] <pjotter> Oh, hi OerHeks ;)
[21:00] <JoeyJoeJo> Does Ubuntu server have a GUI? I don't want to have X running
[21:00] <OerHeks> Ubuntu server has no gui, but you are free to install any
[21:00] <bekks> JoeyJoeJo: There is no X installed by default on Ubuntu server.
[21:00] <hopeless8009> OerHeks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1061544/
[21:00] <sw> JoeyJoeJo: '$ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' etc.
[21:00] <JoeyJoeJo> bekks: thanks
[21:01] <OerHeks> hopeless8009, with terminal open, did you close software centre? only one program can use the softwaresource.
[21:01] <utrz> hello
[21:01] <avis> how do i update and upgrade every 4 hours using sudo crontab -e ?
[21:02] <hopeless8009> OerHeks, well i relized that i had it open then shut it and run it again but still returned same error
[21:02] <MonkeyDust> avis  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[21:02] <utrz> i would like to
[21:02] <utrz> understand this
[21:02] <utrz> i just dmesg on ubuntu pc
[21:02] <hopeless8009> OerHeks, should i reboot system?
[21:02] <ignitionnight> OerHeks: thanks for the tip on the dropbox bugs and workaround... I am having a problem with software center being stuck after trying to install dropbox... can you help me unstick it
[21:03] <bekks> avis: One update per day should be enough.
[21:03] <utrz> i got something like this : [1370351.712866]
[21:03] <nix-n00b> Hey, can someone tell me if i need to run an older version of ubuntu to get my older ATi Radeon X1300 graphics card to work? or should it run on the latest version?
[21:03] <utrz> what's that mean ?
[21:03] <k1l> utrz: its a timestamp
[21:03] <bekks> utrz: Thats the seconds since booting up.
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> avis  are you running a server that needs a backup every 4 hours?
[21:04] <utrz> it is uncompresive for me
[21:04] <hopeless8009> OerHeks, oh and i think my softwar install program my be stuck running
[21:04] <OerHeks> hopeless8009, maybe this is a solution :
[21:04] <OerHeks> !aptlock
[21:04] <utrz> how to make that comprehensive ?
[21:04] <bekks> utrz: No way. Seconds are seconds.
[21:04] <utrz> how to human verbose this ?
[21:05] <bubby> hi
[21:05] <bekks> utrz: There is no way.
[21:05] <utrz> convert to minutes not possible ?
[21:05] <OerHeks> ignitionnight, i had dropbox installed before these issues started. i am not sure what causes these problems for start.
[21:05] <bekks> utrz: Third time: No. :)
[21:05] <danny> hello everyone :)
[21:05] <bubby> hi peepz
[21:05] <bubby> new here
[21:05] <utrz> how do you calculate that number ?
[21:06] <bekks> utrz: I do not calculate it. I know 1 hour has 3600s, and 24h have 86400s :)
[21:06] <k1l> utrz: its a timestamp. its the seconds ticking since boot and if a message appears its get the timestamp when its activated
[21:06] <ignitionnight> OerHeks: your aptlock solution for hopeless helped me
[21:08] <OerHeks> ignitionnight, great! i will remember this for the next help-request
[21:08] <lloowen> Hello all. Is it possible to set up an NFS client/server scenario with ldap authentication? Samba and ldap work well together. Is there an NFS/ldap solution? I'm googling around and not finding anything. I would be grateful if anyone could point me to a good how to , tutorial or documentation on how to set this up.
[21:09] <bekks> lloowen: There is no nfs/ldap integration.
[21:09] <utrz> [1370351.712866] what is the number after the dot ?
[21:09] <OPPluto> sounds like something that Sun would cook up nfs+ldap
[21:09] <hopeless8009> OerHeks, I rebooted and ran that command and it told me to run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:09] <bekks> utrz: The fraction of a second.
[21:09] <ignitionnight> Yeah cause after the dropbox install crashed the software center locked up and I couldn't even use the apt-get command in term... you helped me unlock it then a term command to purge dropbox cleared it out
[21:09] <danny> I have a fresh install of 12.04 Desktop (32-bit) and am having two issues I could use some help with. First, and this is minor: Is there a way to keep the Unity Launcher on top? I added a gnome-panel so I could have a taskbar like window manager but it is on top of the Unity Launcher which is hidden until I mouse to the left edge. (It flies out but is partially covered at the bottom by the panel) Secondly, and more importantly: I am having trou
[21:09] <danny> ble with my video drivers. It shows the graphics as "Unknown" in the GUI but command line shows the correct hardware. Some video elements seem somewhat choppy and I intend to use this laptop as an HTPC.
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> lloowen  NFS mounts remote partitions locally, it's what i have
[21:09] <hopeless8009> OerHeks, it looks like its doing something
[21:09] <ignitionnight> #sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:09] <lloowen> Can linux clients use the samba/ldap set up?
[21:10] <OPPluto> open up a terminal and run "lspci" to see what your video hardware is.
[21:10] <bekks> lloowen: If you set them up to use it, yes.
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> lloowen  this is an old one, 10.04, but maybe it helps https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/samba-ldap.html
[21:10] <hopeless8009> OerHeks, was that a good thing to do?
[21:11] <lloowen> MonkeyDust: Thanks I'll take a look.
[21:11] <utrz> just to make me sure how many days my pc runing ?
[21:11] <lloowen> bekks: Nice to know it could work.
[21:12] <Oniklus> utrz: try 'uptime'
[21:12] <bekks> utrz: No. To know when a distinct message appeared in your log.
[21:12] <OerHeks> hopeless8009, yes, now check if sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade works normal
[21:13] <iHarp> What is the difference in running something as root@host and user@host with sudo commands?
[21:13] <iHarp> isn't it the same thing?
[21:13] <hopeless8009> OerHeks, the command i ran last is hanging at 99%
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> iHarp  sudo is only temporarily
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> iHarp  root is less safe than sudo
[21:14] <iHarp> but doesn't the "temp" use of sudo still run something as root?
[21:14] <k1l> utrz: the dmesg is not to tell you how long your pc is running. use "uptime" instead
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> iHarp  yes, but with sudo you can control *what* runs as root
[21:16] <danny> OPPluto: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1061573/
[21:16] <iHarp> so a SU is a user with Root privs? And instead of everything running as Root, it is only the called command?
[21:16] <utrz> uptime is an other solution sure
[21:16] <utrz> but i would like to check dmesg
[21:16] <bekks> utrz: No. "uptime" is THE solution to see how long your box is running already.
[21:16] <jrdnn> iHarp SU makes the current terminal root until exit. sudo just makes the command right after it root
[21:17] <iHarp> ok. thanks
[21:17] <utrz> [1370351.712866]
[21:17] <utrz> with your method
[21:17] <bekks> utrz: dmesg is the command that shows you debug messages and their timestamps.
[21:17] <MonkeyDust> iHarp  mind: su is switch user, not super user
[21:17] <maxagaz> each time I boot my computer, it's asking for my authentication password to use the wifi, how to change this behaviour ?
[21:17] <iHarp> MonkeyDust: ok I din't know that
[21:17] <bekks> utrz: When there havent been debug messages for hours, you wont notice that using dmesg.
[21:18] <utrz> well in which date i had this debg ? [1370351.712866]
[21:18] <bekks> utrz: We dont know it, you have to calculate it.
[21:18] <utrz> i don't understnd the notion of fraction
[21:18] <bekks> utrz: Date of booting (now - uptime) plus 1370351 seconds.
[21:19] <bekks> 0.125 is 1/8 second.
[21:19] <iHarp> so why does typing su as root take me from ~/    to     /home/user?
[21:19] <iHarp> *Just trying to make since of a few things*
[21:20] <ikonia> iHarp: because you are not sourcing roots environment. 1.) you should not be root 2.) you should not be doing "su" as root, you are already root
[21:20] <iHarp> sense*
[21:20] <ikonia> iHarp: ubuntu is built around the sudo model, you should be using it
[21:20] <utrz> uptime  give me this :  23:12:41 up 60 days, 10:43,  1 user,  load average: 0.01, 0.09, 0.09
[21:20] <iHarp> I only use root for changing user privs. I always use sudo for the most part
[21:21] <ikonia> iHarp: there is no need for "root" for that
[21:21] <bekks> utrz: typing "date" will tell you the current time. This time minus the time given by uptime tells you when your computer was booted.
[21:21] <Somelauw> iHarp: ~ is the same as /home/user
[21:21] <OPPluto> /home/$USER
[21:22] <hopeless8009> OerHeks, you there?
[21:23] <utrz> mardi 26 juin 2012, 23:21:41 (UTC+0200) date give me this
[21:23] <bekks> utrz: Yout clock is wrong ;)
[21:23] <maxagaz> nobody to help for my problem ?
[21:23] <bekks> utrz: It's the 26th of June today :)
[21:23] <MonsterWizard> is there a way to open files from ther terminal
[21:23] <bekks> utrz: nvm :)
[21:24] <MonsterWizard> in the windows x environment?
[21:24] <MonsterWizard> for example
[21:24] <MonsterWizard> command filename
[21:24] <MonsterWizard> then it opens
[21:24] <bekks> utrz: So now calculate the 26th of June minus 60 days...
[21:24] <utrz> yes it 's also26 june on my system
[21:24] <ikonia> MonsterWizard: if you use an X11 app, it will open in X11
[21:24] <Lounge> MonsterWizard: are you talking about opening or executing files?
[21:24] <MonsterWizard> opening
[21:24] <Pinkamena_D> hello
[21:24] <MonsterWizard> files
[21:25] <Lounge> if you wanna open a txt file use something like gedit
[21:25] <MonsterWizard> I don't mean cat or less
[21:25] <MonsterWizard> nahhhh
[21:25] <ikonia> MonsterWizard: cat and less are not X11 apps
[21:25] <MonsterWizard> is there are a universal command
[21:25] <ikonia> MonsterWizard: if you call an X11 application from the command line, it will open in X11
[21:25] <hopeless8009> Family8009
[21:25] <ikonia> MonsterWizard: no, there is not
[21:25] <MonsterWizard> damn
[21:25] <MonsterWizard> how hard would it be to make one do you think?
[21:26] <ikonia> MonsterWizard: you're actual question doesn't make any sense
[21:26] <bekks> MonsterWizard: Impossible.
[21:26] <MonsterWizard> damn
[21:26] <utrz> my question was when this error appears ? on dmesg [1370351.712866]
[21:26] <zykotick9> MonsterWizard: "xdg-open file.foo" or "gnome-open file.foo"
[21:26] <bekks> utrz: 60 days ago your box booted. Add 1370351 seconds to that date now.
[21:27] <utrz> perfect bekks  i get your point
[21:27] <utrz> thanks a lot
[21:28] <bekks> utrz: yw
[21:29] <utrz> is there any command to show the date -60 ?
[21:29] <veryhappy> hi guys i want to build up an iscsi target and also try to test isns for myself cause i still have not so much knowledge about this topic. but now i got an error while i tried to start iscsitarget can someone please help me out? Starting iSCSI enterprise target service
[21:29] <veryhappy> FATAL: Module iscsi_trgt not found. fail
[21:30] <bekks> utrz: yes, "date" is capable of doing that.
[21:30] <hopeless8009> can someone tell me why sudo dpkg --configure -a is hanging at 99%
[21:31] <BluesKaj> you may have a broken dependency that's unresolvable
[21:32] <utrz> i don't find it on --help
[21:32] <BobMarley> hi
[21:32] <BobMarley> my xchat suddenly crashed and i got the following error:
[21:32] <BobMarley> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1061593/
[21:32] <BluesKaj> hopeless8009, sudo apt-get -f install
[21:32] <bekks> utrz: It is the first option described by --help: -d
[21:34] <Guest1> I recently tried installing ubuntu 12.04 to my computer, but it wouldn't install. Someone told me how to log the error, and now I have it, but I'm not sure what it means. Jun 25 07:58:18 ubuntu install.py: IOError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
[21:34] <hopeless8009> BluesKaj, that wount run the dependsince are broken
[21:35] <battlehands> is there a support channel for this server on irc?
[21:36] <JPP> battlehands: for freenode?
[21:36] <utrz> dont find it
[21:36] <battlehands> JPP, that's correct
[21:37] <Jordan_U> battlehands: #freenode
[21:37] <JPP> battlehands: try #Freenode.
[21:37] <JPP> they'll point you in the right direction :)
[21:37] <battlehands> thank you
[21:37] <utrz> well i will look tomorrow tnks a lot bye
[21:38] <BobMarley> so nobody knows why i get that problem?
[21:39] <onryo> BobMarley: whats your prob?
[21:39] <BobMarley> onryo, my xchat suddenly crashed and i got the following error:
[21:39] <BobMarley>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1061593/
[21:40] <JPP> BobMarley: stupid question, but have you tried reinstalling the package? It could fix dependencies etc.
[21:40] <r3dLunchb0x> BobMarley: mine crashes frequently too, but normally right after I start up or try to join a channel that doesnt exist
[21:41] <Lounge> BobMarley: it might be ab issue your config file
[21:41] <onryo> BobMarley: you compiled this and got a seg fault?
[21:41] <BobMarley> well, i just installed it through the package manager, and after that nothing done, just using it
[21:42] <veryhappy> has nobody a plan?
[21:42] <veryhappy> *clue
[21:42] <Draxel> what's up fellow ubuntu users? :)
[21:42] <Miz> sep
[21:42] <Lounge> greetoz
[21:43] <BluesKaj> BobMarley, try quassel , it's pretty stable
[21:43] <veryhappy> Draxel, Miz perhaps you can help me with my iscsi?
[21:43] <Miz> what's up
[21:43] <ikonia> BobMarley: you'll find that issue is most likley (keep in mind I have no debug to work from here) is related to your graphics card
[21:43] <Draxel> veryhappy what's the problem?
[21:43] <ikonia> BobMarley: what card are you using ?
[21:44] <veryhappy> Draxel: i want to build up an iscsi target and also try to test isns for myself cause i still have not so much knowledge about this topic. but now i got an error while i tried to start iscsitarget can someone please help me out? Starting iSCSI enterprise target service
[21:44] <veryhappy> 	FATAL: Module iscsi_trgt not found. fail
[21:44] <BobMarley> ikonia, geforce 9300 gs
[21:44] <BobMarley> geforce 9300m gs
[21:44] <ikonia> BobMarley: you may want to consider swapping to the "vesa" driver to test it
[21:45] <ikonia> BobMarley: you'll lose video card performance, but it's sane test
[21:45] <Draxel> sorry, veryhappy, I don't have deep knowledge about this topic :/
[21:45] <BobMarley> ikonia, why i will lose video performance?
[21:45] <veryhappy> Draxel: ok thank you
[21:46] <veryhappy> but can PLEASE someone help me who knows something about ISCSI?!
[21:46] <ikonia> BobMarley: because you'll be swapping to a non-hardware accelerated video card driver
[21:47] <Draxel> if there are any iscsi experts help man out!
[21:47] <Draxel> :)
[21:47] <BobMarley> ikonia, why?
[21:47] <ikonia> veryhappy: keeping asking with more agression will not get you help - people are here volenteers
[21:47] <Lounge> veryhappy: did you try this from github?
[21:47] <Lounge> https://github.com/nii-cloud/dodai-deploy/commit/a92f4e38b383b73c2b62c982a51bbb68b20630df
[21:47] <ikonia> BobMarley: to run the test I've just described
[21:47] <veryhappy> ikonia: yes, i'm sorry, but i'm seraching for help and didn't know where i get further help
[21:47] <Draxel> ikonia, sound like people work here lol ;) it's a community
[21:48] <ikonia> veryhappy: you wait for someone with time and experience to help you without pushing other people
[21:48] <Miz> verryhappy: http://sys-admin.wikidot.com/install-iscsi-target
[21:48] <cidr> I'm having an odd problem getting my ipod to passtrhough usb to virtualbox in ubuntu.  Ubuntu immediatley tries to mount it or do soemthign with it, even when I setup a filter in virtualbox.  Ideas?
[21:48] <Miz> covers your error
[21:48] <Draxel> Miz! Good find :)
[21:48] <veryhappy> ok thank you guys
[21:48] <veryhappy> i'll check it out
[21:48] <Miz> ty
[21:49] <Miz> can i has cookie
[21:49] <Draxel> what code editor do you use on ubuntu?
[21:49] <SKullB0x> how do i open .gpg files?
[21:49] <Draxel> I love espresso, however, it's only available for osx, which sucks
[21:49] <SKullB0x> i have the password for that file, but don't know how to open it in ubuntu?
[21:49] <BobMarley> ikonia, so you suggest to use the "vesa" driver and see if the xchat will not continue to crash?
[21:50] <ikonia> BobMarley: correct
[21:50] <Miz> skullbox: http://filext.com/file-extension/GPG
[21:50] <Lounge> SKullB0x: you can open them with seahorse
[21:50] <Draxel> are here any ubuntu contributors?
[21:51] <Lounge> from there you can modify and change passwords
[21:51] <arand> !anyone | Draxel
[21:51] <OerHeks> !ide | Draxel
[21:52] <Draxel> that's nice. anyway, I just wanted to say Thank you for awesome OS
[21:52] <Draxel> :)
[21:52] <pranavk1> is there any command like time that tells me how much ram and cpu the command used while in execution ?
[21:52] <inashdeen> hi there everyone, may i know how to put picture in my wiki page
[21:53] <pranavk1> i know i can use top, but i want such a tool
[21:53] <phil18422> In 12.04 server; I'm having troubles getting aic7xxx to load for my Adaptec AHA-2940UW card. lspci shows SCSI storage controller appropriately. I have two IDE devices connected (HDD,CDROM) which show in /proc/scsi/scsi but nothing referencing the 2940 or the attached DAT72 drive. I'm not sure where to go from here, any suggestions?
[21:54] <phil18422> I didn't mean to imply that the IDE devices are connected to the scsi host adapter..
[21:54] <Lounge> SKullB0x: I'm sorry, you meant how to decrypt .gpg files, in that case you can use a simple terminal command: gpg -d <filename> > <new filename>
[21:54] <Anxi80> PSA: Do not install DropBox from Ubuntu Software Center. It is broken and will run forever at 100% cpu during install.
[21:55] <ikonia> Anxi80: it works fine
[21:55] <pranavk> is there any command like time that i can use to show the RAM and CPU utilisation by a command, i know i can use top, but i just don't want to open another window to monitor it
[21:55] <ikonia> Anxi80: please don't make your view "public service announcment"
[21:55] <BobMarley> ok, thank you all fot he provided help
[21:55] <Lounge> pranavk: you can use: top -u $(whoami)
[21:55] <idyar> Dropbox definitely broke my software center, its why i came here
[21:56] <Anxi80> ikonia: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus-dropbox/+question/201183
[21:56] <Anxi80> ikonia: park the attitude
[21:56] <ikonia> idyar: dropbox has no functionality on software center
[21:56] <pranavk> Lounge: like for 'python t.py' what should i use ?
[21:56] <ikonia> Anxi80: I have no attitude, I'm asking you to not make your unproven views as "public service announcments"
[21:57] <Anxi80> ikonia: see link
[21:57] <ikonia> Anxi80: I have seen the link
[21:57] <Somelauw> idyar: Install the version in your software center before installing the one on the site.
[21:57] <idyar> I did install the version from software center first
[21:57] <Somelauw> I mean, remove that one first.
[21:57] <CIDR_> modem crapped out on m
[21:57] <CIDR_> I'm having an odd problem getting my ipod to passtrhough usb to virtualbox in ubuntu.  Ubuntu immediatley tries to mount it or do soemthign with it, even when I setup a filter in virtualbox.  Ideas?
[21:58] <Anxi80> ikonia: try reading it when you see it
[21:58] <ikonia> Anxi80: I have
[21:58] <Somelauw> So they won't conflict.
[21:58] <ceed^> I'm running  12.04. After reboot I am not seeing any applications in the HUD, no music files either. I do see files though. How do I get the HUD back to show everything?
[21:59] <Anxi80> ikonia: so what's not proven exactly?
[21:59] <ikonia> Anxi80: your view
[21:59] <Anxi80> ikonia: not my view
[21:59] <^Mike> There should be kernel support for Logitech unifying USB receivers, but I dont' know how to activate it. Do you know how to get two devices to use one receiver from within Linux only? (I don't have a Windows machine I can pair them with)
[22:00] <xangua> ceed^: you mean the dash¿ the hud is for menu entries
[22:00] <ikonia> Anxi80: if you read the bug report rather than a Q/A you'll see the issue, the limitations, the work arounds and the planned solution
[22:00] <ikonia> Anxi80: so again, please don't make your view public service announcments
[22:00] <ceed^> xangua: I mean the dash I guess. Let's say I start writing an application name, there's no results for applications
[22:01] <Anxi80> ikonia: nothing of what you've said disproves the fact that its broken.
[22:02] <ceed^> xangua: the only applications I can open are the ones in the launcher
[22:02] <ikonia> Anxi80: there is a problem with the nautlius package intergration with a work around, not "ubuntu", so I've tried asking nicley, so now I'll tell you, "please don't tell people it's broken on ubuntu - it's not, there is a problem that is described in the bug report in limited situations with a work around"
[22:03] <Anxi80> ikonia: one more time for you: "Do not install DropBox from Ubuntu Software Center. It is broken and will run forever at 100% cpu during install."
[22:03] <Anxi80> ikonia: all of that is truth with provided source
[22:04] <avis> everyone use commodo safe and secure dns its much more accurate than cox or at&t uverse
[22:05] <pim_> should just installing the openssh-server package also cause the ssh deamon to be started when the system boots?
[22:05] <idyar> quit
[22:06] <ikonia> pim_: normally does
[22:06] <pim_> ikonia ok thanks
[22:06] <Lounge> pim_ yes or you can manually restart it with sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[22:06] <ikonia> Lounge: the init script is depreciated now
[22:07] <ikonia> (sadly)
[22:07] <pim_> ikonia what do you mean?
[22:07] <Lounge> ikonia: still works
[22:07] <ikonia> Lounge: really ? I got an error from it on a 12.04 box
[22:07] <ikonia> I'll have to check that
[22:07] <Lounge> in 12.04 can just type sudo restart ssh
[22:07] <ikonia> either way, it's depreciated it, so passing the correct "service ssh restart"
[22:08] <pim_> what is the actual function of the /etc/init.d directory?
[22:08] <ikonia> pim_: used to contain init scripts
[22:08] <ikonia> pim_: just legacy now while everything is %100 migrated
[22:08] <pim_> migrated to what?
[22:08] <ikonia> upstart
[22:08] <jrdnn> upstart
[22:08] <ejo> s/depreciated/deprecated
[22:08] <ikonia> a big chunk of it is done
[22:08] <ikonia> ejo: thank you
[22:09] <pim_> i like init
[22:09] <ejo> no offense intended
[22:09] <Lounge> pim_ its just the init.d scripts that are used mainly for bootup some people still use them to restart things
[22:09] <ikonia> ejo: non-taken
[22:09] <ikonia> pim_: sadly, it's dead on ubuntu
[22:09] <pim_> on my slack box I always use /etc/rc.d/rc.something start/stop/restart
[22:09] <pim_> for deamons
[22:09] <ikonia> pim_: not the same on ubuntu anymore
[22:09] <pim_> so what is supposedly better with upstart?
[22:10] <ikonia> pim_: have a read
[22:10] <heiz> hello! Tell me please what should I write to get temperature measurements as menu item in indicator-multiload.
[22:10] <genii-around> pim_: It does not linearly start stuff, it starts stuff in parallel
[22:10] <pim_> doesn't this break compatibility?
[22:11] <phil18422> In 12.04 server; I'm having troubles getting aic7xxx to load for my Adaptec AHA-2940UW card. lspci shows SCSI storage controller appropriately. I have two IDE devices connected to the mobos ICH7 controller (HDD,CDROM) which show in /proc/scsi/scsi but nothing referencing the 2940 or the attached DAT72 drive. I'm not sure where to go from here, any suggestions as to where I could look for obvious issues?
[22:11] <genii-around> pim_: It has also a way to start all the old sysvinit stuff
[22:11] <jrdnn> pim_: It knows what depends on what so nothing is started in the wrong order
[22:12] <ignitionnight> Is it possible to auto mount my windows partition when ubuntu boots up?
[22:13] <Lounge> ignitionnight: yes you can add it in your /etc/fstab
[22:13] <Draxel> my partition is automatically mounted
[22:13] <Draxel> by default
[22:13] <pim_> i see that upstart has its advantages
[22:13] <ignitionnight> can you teach me, or point me in a direction
[22:13] <pim_> like making usb devices hot-pluggable
[22:13] <Jordan_U> !fstab | ignitionnight
[22:14] <pim_> i just used to do dmesg and then mount the device...
[22:14] <Lounge> ignitionnight: what partition is your windows on?
[22:15] <ignitionnight> its the main partition, I installed ubuntu on the side
[22:16] <ignitionnight> I can get it mounted really easy by opening nautilus and clicking it, but until I do that my rhythmbox can't find my music because the drive isn't mounted
[22:16] <Lounge> ignitionnight: you can find your ntfs partitions by typing sudo blkid
[22:16] <ignitionnight> im reading the fstab site
[22:16] <pim_> how do you guys pronounce fstab, fs-tab or f-stab?
[22:17] <Edgan> fs-tab
[22:17] <ignitionnight> sda2
[22:17] <Lounge> ok
[22:17] <Edgan> pim_: filesystem table
[22:17] <pim_> Edgan, I know but I tend to say f-stab
[22:18] <ignitionnight> f-stab for sure... because... violence I guess
[22:18] <phil18422> me too ignitionnight
[22:18] <pim_> hehe
[22:18] <Lounge> ignitionnight: whats the folder you mount it to?
[22:18] <Lounge> i mean
[22:18] <Lounge> what directory?
[22:19] <ignitionnight> "/media/900 gig filesystem"
[22:19] <ignitionnight> I hope that's what you meant haha
[22:19] <ignitionnight> I'm pretty noobish on ubuntu
[22:20] <Lounge> ignitionnight: it'd be better for the sake of simplicity to make a directory like; mkdir ~/MsWin and then..
[22:21] <Lounge> /dev/hda2 /home/[user]/MsWin  ntfs defaults 0 0
[22:21] <Lounge> change [user] to your actual user name
[22:21] <Lounge> and add it to your /etc/fstab
[22:22] <harovali> how can I add a launcher to the menu bar in unity in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[22:22] <zykotick9> Lounge: hda2? that's an odd/old suggestion
[22:22] <Lounge> /dev/sda2
[22:22] <Lounge> sory about that
[22:22] <Lounge> but then again you can alway sudo mkdir /media/MsWin and add that instead
[22:23] <Lounge> or just copy the line from mtab into your fstab
[22:24] <ignitionnight> okay, thanks, I am reading the fstab tut on the ubuntu site
[22:24] <brandon> help!
[22:25] <brandon> i want to play minecraft but i get this error The file '/home/brandon/Downloads/MinecraftSP.jar' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[22:25] <usr13> brandon: Make it executable.
[22:25] <usr13> brandon: chmod +x /home/brandon/Downloads/MinecraftSP.jar
[22:26] <Krywk> I need help from people who know how to use Mono.
[22:26] <veryhappy> IT WORKS - iscsi server and client works now
[22:26] <Krywk> I won't go to ##mono since they don't answer there.
[22:27] <veryhappy> see you
[22:27] <Krywk> Anyone like that around here?
[22:27] <usr13> Krywk: Ask your question(s)
[22:27] <Krywk> Ok.
[22:28] <Krywk> You see, I'm trying to run a  .NET 4.0 app with Mono 2.10.
[22:28] <Um_cara_qualquer> does anybody knows which directory are the temporary videos from youtube on ubuntu 10.10?
[22:28] <Krywk> The app loads, but crashes.
[22:28] <Krywk> Here's the log:
[22:28] <Krywk> http://pastebin.com/McgNUyyD
[22:29] <Lounge> Um_cara_qualquer: they're broken up in a ratmaze like cache system mozilla implemented
[22:29] <Lounge> there are plenty of add ons you can use to dl youtube vids
[22:29] <Um_cara_qualquer> oh :(
[22:29] <Um_cara_qualquer> like what?
[22:30] <rypervenche> youtube-dl
[22:30] <Um_cara_qualquer> k
[22:30] <Lounge> Um_cara_qualquer: Easy youtube Video Downloader is a good one
[22:30] <Krywk> Anyone know what is causing the problem?
[22:30] <Um_cara_qualquer> can i download from other sites too?
[22:31] <starbuck> hi, i just installed 12.04 and now i'm trying to get rid of the quiet boot and have the verbose booting output instead. everything i found related to that topic via google wasnt helpful, is there anybody here who could direct me towards the solution?
[22:31] <AJ_Z0> There's a nice YouTube plugin for Google Chrome which not only modifies YouTube and other site's pages, but gives download links for all different resolutions and file formats (mp4, webm, etc.)
[22:32] <Lounge> Um_cara_qualquer: not that i'm aware of
[22:32] <usr13> Krywk: Give us the package name
[22:32] <AJ_Z0> Get the full version from the plugin site, linked from the Store page
[22:32] <usr13> Krywk: Give us the package name(s)
[22:32] <Edgan> starbuck: edit /etc/default/grub and then run update-grub
[22:33] <Krywk> I'm actually using a .exe I got from internet. It's the Diablo III server emulator to play single-player.
[22:33] <rodhash> Hello guys... I need help... WPA connects to my AP but I can't get any IP lease from router
[22:33] <starbuck> Edgan: how edit it?
[22:33] <rodhash> once ran wpa it says 'Associated with xx:xx:xx...'
[22:33] <rodhash> if I run iwconfig it shows the proper SSID... but ENCRYPTION KEY:off
[22:33] <Krywk> It's called D3Emu.
[22:33] <rodhash> which is very odd
[22:33] <Lounge> Krywk: You'll need wine
[22:33] <Edgan> starbuck: sudo gedit /etc/default/grub   from a terminal window is probably the easiest way
[22:33] <usr13> Krywk: Are you running it under wine?
[22:34] <Krywk> usr13, no.
[22:34] <rodhash> consequently if I run dhclient... it can't get an IP
[22:34] <rodhash> any idea pls?
[22:34] <Krywk> I'm using Linux's native mono 2.10 package.
[22:34] <starbuck> Edgan: sorry, i didn't make myself clear. which lines need to be editet and with what values
[22:34] <usr13> Krywk: Did you install it via the package manager?
[22:34] <Krywk> Which should be able to run .NET 4.0 apps without a problem.
[22:34] <Krywk> usr13, yes
[22:35] <Krywk> This app also needs sqlite, which I've already installed.
[22:35] <Edgan> starbuck: Lines like GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet"   take out the quiet
[22:35] <Krywk> again, via package manager.
[22:35] <starbuck> Edgan: that's all?
[22:35] <Edgan> starbuck: and run sudo update-grub
[22:36] <usr13> Krywk: Give us the package name
[22:37] <starbuck> Edgan: did you do that with your system and it worked? i have 12.04 and it says "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet boot" "  but the results always say soemthing like quiet splash instead of quiet boot
[22:37] <ninjaaron> is the X server a GNU project?
[22:37] <Krywk> Oh wait, I installed it via a deb package.
[22:37] <usr13> Krywk: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[22:37] <Krywk> 11.10
[22:37] <starbuck> Edgan: i mean the search results via google
[22:38] <Jordan_U> ninjaaron: No.
[22:38] <Krywk> I just did sudo apt-get install mono-complete, it asked for a download of 32,9 MB
[22:38] <Krywk> which should mean the package is not complete.
[22:38] <ninjaaron> Jordan_U: Thanks
[22:38] <Jordan_U> ninjaaron: You're welcome.
[22:38] <usr13> Krywk: a
[22:38] <Krywk> Should I download this package?
[22:38] <usr13> Krywk: QUITE possible
[22:38] <usr13> Krywk: Yes
[22:38] <elspuddy> how do i find out if samba is installed ?
[22:38] <Krywk> Downloading.
[22:39] <Krywk> If this works I'm gonna love you forever. (?)
[22:39] <ninjaaron> Jordan_U: Just trying to get some perspective on the GNU/Linux naming controversy
[22:39] <usr13> elspuddy: smb Tab-key
[22:39] <starbuck> elsebuddy: dpkg -l | grep samba
[22:39] <Edgan> starbuck: I would try taking out both options. First quiet, and then boot. I am not sure what boot means. Developers love change for the sack of change.
[22:39] <kristyem> Upgraded to 12.04, internal mic isn't working. Anyone else have this issue and was able to solve it? I'm running out of ideas..
[22:40] <elspuddy> usr13,  thanks :)
[22:40] <Jordan_U> starbuck: "boot" doesn't make any sense as a kernel parameter. Do you have any idea how it got there?
[22:40] <rodhash> any idea about wpa issue?
[22:40] <usr13> elspuddy: NP
[22:40] <Krywk> If this doesn't work, I still have the option to install mono-dev
[22:40] <sacarlson> elspuddy: try right click on a directory you want to share in nautilus and pic share, if not installed it will ask you to install it
[22:40] <usr13> Krywk: yep
[22:41] <starbuck> Jordan_U: tahts exactly what'S confusing me because i just had a clean fresh install and that'S how it already was made by the installation
[22:42] <elspuddy> sacarlson, thanks :) that was goign to be my next question, whats the easyist way of installing and configing samab :)
[22:42] <superuser> hey sacarlson, ive updated my system
[22:43] <Jordan_U> starbuck: That's not the default setting, so someone or some script changed it.
[22:43] <starbuck> hm, i jsut give it a try with boot queit removed
[22:43] <sacarlson> superuser: and?
[22:43] <AndIrc> is it possible to install ubuntu on a samsung galaxy tab 7.7 tablet?
[22:44] <superuser> sacarlson: well its actually not that slow, unless im multitasking
[22:44] <starbuck> Jordan_U: could you pastebin me the original  /etc/default/grub?
[22:44] <starbuck> Jordan_U: i mean the default one
[22:45] <Edgan> starbuck: http://fpaste.org/Z3rP/
[22:45] <kristyem> Anyone that can help with a mic problem?
[22:45] <newuser001> hello, I just installed ubuntu everything is working fine, but I noticed it says my OS type is 64bit. (my computer is 32 bit) is this a problem?
[22:45] <Nullifi3d> if i accidentally mounted a device as a user's home directory, will rebooting unmount the device and remount the original home directory?
[22:45] <starbuck> Edgan & Jordan_U: thx so far, i'll test it right now without the quiet
[22:45] <bekks> newuser001: Impossible ;) You computer has be 64bit, to run a 64bit OS.
[22:46] <Edgan> newuser001: If it is working then your computer must be 64bit
[22:46] <superuser> andirc: from what i understand what they have going right now is a thing where it only works when its pluged in to a pc
[22:46] <newuser001> that can't be right, my computer was 32 bit under windows /:
[22:46] <sacarlson> kristyem: I would play with alsamixer
[22:46] <rypervenche> Nullifi3d: Yes, but you don't even need to reboot.
[22:46] <ohptlabs> so hurs later of trying to get the acx drivers to compile and just going with with the acx-mac80211 i need to know where to but the firmware for the wireless card since the wiki on sourceforge has all the ubuntu versions being ancient and apparently hotplug is no longer used
[22:46] <bekks> newuser001: Because Windows was 32bit.
[22:47] <superuser> andirc: heres the link www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[22:47] <Nullifi3d> rypervenche: i cant unmount because the device is "in use"
[22:47] <Nullifi3d> so rebooting appears to be necessary
[22:47] <kristyem> sacarlson: Thanks. I'll give it a shot. I've been trying PulseAudio, still no luck. I'll try alsa. Thank you!
[22:47] <Dimitri> hello i am trying to install server but i am not conected to the networki get stuck choosing an archive mirror
[22:47] <rypervenche> Nullifi3d: Where is it in use?
[22:48] <Nullifi3d> dunno
[22:48] <jrdnn> Nullifi3d: umount -f /dev/whatever
[22:48] <rypervenche> Nullifi3d: You can also run lsof to see what is using it.
[22:48] <Nullifi3d> did that, didnt see anything using it
[22:48] <superuser> sacarlson: can you take a look at my cpu info and mem info to see what it is thats holding me back?
[22:48] <newuser001> thanks, confused now. But as long as the computer is working fine I'll be ok :D
[22:48] <ohptlabs> like should i just put it in /lib/firmware ? /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/acx ?
[22:50] <rypervenche> Nullifi3d: So try to force unmount it like jrdnn said.
[22:50] <Nullifi3d> didnt work
[22:51] <Nullifi3d> ill just reboot tomorrow morning :P
[22:51] <rypervenche> Nullifi3d: You ran it as root?
[22:51] <Nullifi3d> aye
[22:51] <rypervenche> What was the output?
[22:51] <Nullifi3d> in use
[22:52] <rypervenche> And nothing showed up in "lsof | grep mountpoint" ?
[22:53] <ohptlabs> is there still a restricted modules for the kernerl?
[22:54] <true_techie> i need to ssh into localhost without a passphrase but it keeps asking
[22:54] <NetwrkEngie> omg ppl do talk in IRCs
[22:54] <true_techie> someone help =\
[22:54] <usr13> true_techie: ssh into localhost?
[22:55] <true_techie> user13, yes
[22:55] <usr13> true_techie: Why?
[22:55] <true_techie> usr13, Im setting up hadoop and thats a requirement
[22:55] <daiki> a
[22:56] <Krywk> usr13, A bigger error appeared.
[22:56] <rypervenche> ssh -o PasswordAuthentification
[22:56] <elspuddy> is there a gui for samba setup ?
[22:56] <rypervenche> usr13: ssh -o PasswordAuthentification localhost
[22:57] <Krywk> usr13: Here's the output: http://pastebin.com/N2LyCvWP
[22:58] <rypervenche> true_techie: That was for you rather.
[22:59] <true_techie> rypervenche, command-line: line 0: Bad configuration option: PasswordAuthentification
[22:59] <usr13> true_techie: you need to refer to the instructions you're using to set hadloop up.  (Pretty sure you missed a step.)
[22:59] <Krywk> usr13: Any ideas?
[23:00] <true_techie> usr13, # ssh-keygen -t dsa -P '' -f ~/.ssh/id_dsa #cat ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[23:00] <true_techie> i ran those two commands,
[23:00] <rypervenche> ssh -o PasswordAuthentication=yes localhost
[23:00] <Krywk> usr13 I know what the problem is. I have sqlite 2.8.17, I need sqlite3
[23:00] <rypervenche> true_techie: ^
[23:00] <bekks> true_techie: You have to copy the id_dsa.pub content to the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys of the computer you want to log in.
[23:00] <true_techie> rypervenche, Enter passphrase for key '/home/ubuntu/.ssh/id_dsa':
[23:00] <bekks> true_techie: Not on your local computer.
[23:01] <Ansikt> I set up a Samba share through Nautilus, but my windows machines cannot see the share.
[23:01] <Krywk> usr13: nvm it's not that.
[23:02] <true_techie> bekks, its a local setup for hadoop. i have no idea why hadoop wants to ssh into localhost
[23:02] <Krywk> Any ideas?
[23:02] <rypervenche> true_techie: Oops, sorry. ssh -o PubkeyAuthentication=no localhost
[23:02] <bekks> true_techie: Ok. :)
[23:02] <dj_ryan> true_techie: welcome to hell
[23:02] <Ansikt> I can, however, see shares on the windows macines.  What's up?
[23:03] <true_techie> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes. Warning: Permanently added 'localhost' (RSA) to the list of known hosts. Permission denied (publickey)
[23:03] <true_techie> i dont like that last part
[23:03] <WeThePeople> is here a way to turn off the backspace hotkey in chrome?
[23:04] <dj_ryan> true_techie: using haderp?
[23:04] <rypervenche> true_techie: So you have your SSH to not accept passwords it looks like.
[23:04] <true_techie> dj_ryan, doop. did you get it up?
[23:04] <Krywk> usr13, this is what calls my attention: [Fatal] [DBManager]: Connect() - [Exception] System.DllNotFoundException: System.Data.SQLite.dll
[23:04] <usr13> WeThePeople: Use firefox
[23:04] <WeThePeople> lol
[23:05] <Krywk> usr13: It throws that even though System.Data.SQLite.dll is inside the exe folder...
[23:05] <dj_ryan> true_techie: i've run hadoop in prod a lot
[23:05] <dj_ryan> basically the hadoop scripts are mostly designed around multi-node startup
[23:05] <true_techie> dj_ryan, help meee
[23:05] <dj_ryan> so the single node case is degenerate, but relys on ssh
[23:05] <true_techie> this is a single node setup
[23:05] <Krywk> dj_ryan relies*
[23:05] <dj_ryan> you need to have ssh, ideally password-less ssh, setup even in the single node case
[23:06] <sacarlson> Ansikt: on windows can't you direct connect to ubuntu with samba if you manualy use your ubuntu IP address to connect to?
[23:06] <dj_ryan> true_techie: the best way is to ensure you can 'ssh localhost'
[23:06] <dj_ryan> so make sure your key is generated
[23:06] <dj_ryan> then do "cat id_rsa.pub >> authorized_keys" inside ~/.ssh
[23:07] <true_techie> dj_ryan, these are the same commands on the mahout wiki right?
[23:07] <dj_ryan> true_techie: prob i dont know.
[23:08] <true_techie> i cant 'ssh localhost'
[23:08] <dj_ryan> why not? permission denied?
[23:08] <true_techie> asks for a passphrase everytime
[23:08] <true_techie> Enter passphrase for key '/home/ubuntu/.ssh/id_dsa':
[23:08] <dj_ryan> true_techie: did you tupe in the proper passphrase?
[23:09] <true_techie> dj_ryan, i did not set one
[23:09] <dj_ryan> is this on ec2?
[23:09] <brontosaurusrex> how to unpack obt theme?
[23:09] <true_techie> yes
[23:09] <dj_ryan> true_techie: oh i see
[23:09] <dj_ryan> weird
[23:10] <dj_ryan> well run 'ssh-keygen'
[23:10] <dj_ryan> to generate a rsa-key
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> brontosaurusrex: is that an openbox theme?
[23:11] <dj_ryan> then do the 'cat id_rsa.pub >> authorized_keys' thing i sadi
[23:11] <dj_ryan> dont enter a passphrase
[23:11] <tracekill> On 12.04, I seem to have accidentally disabled the Windows 7-style window docking (to the sides for half-screen and to the top for full screen) how might I re-enable it?
[23:11] <n105> hello i have a problem with nvidia driver
[23:12] <usr13> n105: Oh?
[23:12] <n105> when i run nvidia-xconfig
[23:12] <n105> he generate an xorg.conf but then i have only 600x800 resolution
[23:13] <n105> i have ubuntu 12.04 and lspci | grep VGA is VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
[23:13] <n105> i have also installed nvidia-current
[23:14] <sacarlson> n105: did you try the nvidia gui to setup user preferences?
[23:14] <n105> sacarlson: do you mean nvidia-setting?
[23:14] <usr13> n105: When you started out, did you go to System -> Administration -> Additional Drivers ?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> n105: if you edit xorg.conf you can make it use the res you want
[23:14] <n105> user13: very good
[23:15] <usr13> n105: In other words, exactly how did you install the nvidia driver?
[23:15] <n105> user13: when i go there i see driver is activated but not in use
[23:15] <usr13> n105: Good.  (I think you are on the right track now...)
[23:15] <n105> i run only sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[23:15] <rotham> hey.. i have one of those ubuntu notifications that is like stuck on my screen
[23:15] <rotham> can i reset something to get rid of that?
[23:16] <usr13> n105: Go to System -> Administration -> Additional Drivers
[23:16] <n105> and
[23:16] <usr13> Once the drivers are downloaded and installed, reboot your computer.
[23:17] <n105> usr13:how do you mean download and install it
[23:17] <OerHeks> i think you need the 173. driver for GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x
[23:18] <usr13> n105: Your Ubuntu 12.04 is fully updated, right?
[23:18] <true_techie> dj_ryan, after doing cat i tried ssh localhost and got 'Permission denied (publickey)'. i used cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[23:18] <n105> yes
[23:18] <usr13> good
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[23:19] <n105> how can i run  System -> Administration -> Additional Drivers as root
[23:19] <OerHeks> no, nvidia-glx-96 for GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x, a very old card it is.
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> Saandddiiii: please don't
[23:19] <usr13> n105: You don't
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> n105: gksudo jockey-gtk
[23:20] <usr13> But if you are having trouble with getting the nvidia-settings to be effective, you can run that as root:  gksudo nvidia-settings
[23:20] <n105> ActionParsnip: thanks but what is gksudo, first time :)
[23:20] <n105> usr13: yes you're right
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> n105: its how you run graphical apps as root, it's like sudo butfor graphical apps
[23:21] <Saandddiiii> FREE $500 Amazon GiftCard >>  http://imgrox.com/x/0/4486/83224/   <<
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> !ops | Saandddiiii
[23:21] <usr13> gksu is a GTK+ frontend for su and sudo
[23:21] <n105> yes yes
[23:21] <Saandddiiii> lol
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> it also sets up the environment correctly, sudo isn't suitable for GUI apps
[23:21] <n105> usr13 have you see my last question
[23:21] <usr13> n105: What?
[23:21] <n105> usr13:how do you mean download and install it
[23:22] <sgerbino> anyone hear of an issue of a "FATAL: " something something that flashes when I boot but doesn't show in dmesg or /var/log/messages? It bothers me a bit and I don't know how to investigate this
[23:22] <sgerbino> btw 11.10 64bit
[23:22] <usr13> n105: Go to System -> Administration -> Additional Drivers Once the drivers are downloaded and installed, reboot your computer.
[23:23] <n105> usr13: i have reboot 100 hundred time, but the driver still activated but not in use
[23:23] <usr13> n105:  gksudo nvidia-settings
[23:24] <OerHeks> n105 the driver is not supporting GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x.
[23:24] <n105> OerHeks: so i have to install another drivers
[23:25] <usr13> n105: nv
[23:25] <OerHeks> yes, nvidia-glx-96 for GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x
[23:25] <n105> but i heard that's not good to download the driver from nvidia web site
[23:25] <usr13> n105: Just delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:25] <n105> i do all what you try to told me usr13 befor i come here
[23:25] <n105> OerHeks: where can i download this driver
[23:25] <OerHeks> i think you won't be able to run unity 3d.
[23:26] <n105> what's unity 3d
[23:26] <usr13> n105: Did you delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ?
[23:26] <sgerbino> anyone know how i can track down an elusive boot message prefixed "FATAL:"? :|
[23:26] <sgerbino> so far I looked in /var/log/boot.log, var/log/boot, /var/log/messages, `dmesg`
[23:27] <n105> usr13yes
[23:28] <n105> usr13??
[23:29] <Tweak> Hello. This is my issue : i have been completely unable to boot ANY linux distro, live cd, gparted livecd, nothing. (i used to dual boot before this issue). when booting into ubuntu my screen just goes completely garbled. i think the issue is that i have on board video but installed an upgraded video card. anyone know a way around this issue?
[23:29] <usr13> n105: Do you have a properly displayed GUI screen?
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> Tweak: what video chip do you use?
[23:30] <n105> usr13: some how
[23:30] <n105> a little bit
[23:30] <n105> i will try to down load the right driver from nvidia site
[23:30] <OerHeks> sgerbino, boot log or  /var/log/kern.log : Kernel log file
[23:31] <sacarlson> Tweak: try plug your monitor into the other cards output
[23:31] <true_techie> finally got over the passphrase. now it wants a password for localhost Enter passphrase for key '/home/ubuntu/.ssh/id_dsa':
[23:31] <usr13> n105: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log  #And send resulting URL
[23:31] <true_techie> ubuntu@localhost's password:
[23:31] <Tweak> ActionParsnip: ATI Radeon 6570 is the one i upgraded to, ATI Radeon HD 4200 is my onboard.
[23:31] <sgerbino> OerKes: this error doesn't appear anyone put standard out before the purple bootscreen
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> Tweak: try the boot option:  nomodeset
[23:32] <usr13> n105: lspci |grep VGA  #And show us the output here
[23:32] <sgerbino> OerKes: i mean anywhere not anyone ***
[23:32] <n105>  VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
[23:33] <Tweak> ActionParsnip: how would i do that? add -nomodeset to the options at boot?
[23:33] <sacarlson> n105: usr13 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau/+bug/998719
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | Tweak
[23:34] <Tweak> ActionParsnip: thank you
[23:34] <n105> usr13??
[23:34] <battlehands> guys, I need some serious help with my terminal usage.  I opened gedit with my terminal, and when I try to run my python program, which I wrote in the text editor, then nothing else in my terminal works.
[23:35] <battlehands> How do I get my default terminal command line back without closing it, which will then kill the text editor?
[23:35] <sacarlson> battlehands: yourcommand&
[23:35] <OerHeks> battlehands, add '& ' to the command ussually works
[23:36] <battlehands> let me try that
[23:36] <OerHeks> space + &
[23:36] <battlehands> Still not default command line.
[23:36] <AndChat|502> \quit
[23:36] <AndChat|502> \quit
[23:36] <battlehands> And if I try to reopen a new terminal, it closes the program that I used terminal to open.
[23:36] <AndChat|502> \wc
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> battlehands: of press CTRL+Z and then type:  bg   and hit ENTER
[23:37] <battlehands> ActionParsnip, that did some crazy stuff
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> battlehands: works though :)
[23:38] <battlehands> well
[23:38] <battlehands> hang on
[23:38] <Tweak> ActionParsnip: the only issue with that is that im using the windows bootloader (just tried installing ubuntu with the windows installer) so i do not have grub
[23:39] <battlehands> ActionParsnip, it did work.
[23:39] <battlehands> ActionParsnip, thank you.
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> Tweak: I believe if you highlight Ubuntu in the first menu and press E yu can edit the boot
[23:39] <sacarlson> battlehands: after your app starts you might have to hit return to again see a command prompt in a term
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> battlehands: np, in future, add an ampersand to the command and it will happen automagically :)
[23:39] <battlehands> sacarlson, okay, Ill try that
[23:40] <battlehands> ActionParsnip,  very good
[23:40] <brontosaurusrex> ActionParsnip, yes, i figured it
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> brontosaurusrex: awesome
[23:40] <brontosaurusrex> i thought so as well :)
[23:41] <battlehands> Another question:  My text editor is greyed out, and when I alt tab to access it, I cannot.
[23:41] <Tweak> ActionParsnip: hm ok, i see a lot of different things on that page.. i am sorry but i am not sure which to add?
[23:42] <usr13> battlehands: What file are you editing?  (With what editor?)
[23:42] <battlehands> usr13, I am editing a simple, 20 line python program using gedit
[23:42] <Seven_Six_Two> trying to share /var/www and /var/lib/mysql with ubuntu one. I moved them to a shared dir in my home and added links to original location. Updated Apparmor and restarted. Everything works fine in new location. Shared dir with Ubuntu One. On laptop, did exact same thing (both comps are ubuntu 12.04, fully updated. Usernames are the same. Locations of shared dir are the same.) Mysql won't start on laptop, terminated with status 1
[23:42] <Seven_Six_Two> , syslog says operation="profile-replace".
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> Tweak: add it on the same line as:  quiet splash
[23:42] <OerHeks> battlehands, if you run that file, and edit it at the same time ..
[23:44] <battlehands> OerHeks, then things get divided by zero?
[23:46] <brontosaurusrex> pure nix porn it is http://brontosaurusrex.69.mu/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/waldorfTheThird_1977edition.png
[23:47] <usr13> !ops | brontosaurusrex
[23:47] <brontosaurusrex> couch, wrong channel
[23:49] <marienz> (fwiw: that actually *was* a pretty innocuous-looking screenshot)
[23:50] <MKill> Hello
[23:51]  * alchemist9 waves at MKill
[23:51] <MKill> Alchemist9,  are you familiar with the WUBI installer?
[23:52] <alchemist9> Mkill fairly familiar...
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> Yay down to 3.2Gb install
[23:53] <MKill> Im having a bit of a problem, when it installed and I reboot at step 2, it fails to boot.  upon further investigation I found my boot loader seems to be saved on my Mobo and wont let it boot
[23:54] <alchemist9> MKill: what cpu type are you running?
[23:55] <MKill> I have the same issue on both my machines one is running an i7 740QM and my other is an 3930K, both with asus mother boards
[23:56] <alchemist9> hmm never heard of a boot loader installing itself on a motherboard.. what boot errors are you getting MKill?
[23:57] <MKill> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/gc4yh6bNOzZtPKNubQuo3oy-SMGVuH9iUUbrF2lD3W0?feat=directlink  here is a picture
[23:57] <MKill> or if you dont want to click
[23:58] <MKill> WIndows failed to start, a recent hardware or software change might be the cause (then it goes on)  File: \ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr
[23:58] <MKill> status: 0xc0000098
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> MKill: tried the boot option:  nomodeset
[23:59] <MKill> were can I set this?