| esevece | Hi. I've recently installed Ubuntu Studio 12.04 but it didn't start Jack. I've found the solution: | 04:23 |
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| esevece | I've added my user to audio group. | 04:24 |
| esevece | And renamed the file audio.conf.disabled (etc/security/limits.d) to audio.conf | 04:24 |
| esevece | Logout and Login. Now Jack is working. | 04:24 |
| esevece | Have someone access to the distribution for fix it? | 04:24 |
| astraljava | Err... who entered us into Alpha-2? Scott? | 07:30 |
| astraljava | We don't even have a currently building amd64 image, and on top of that we're having gnome-desktop seeded (due recommends). | 07:33 |
| astraljava | I suppose it won't hurt, in the end, but I'm not sure, and I particularly wouldn't want to see it there, it is bloating our images, and every bit of cruft is a potential game-breaker. | 07:34 |
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| astraljava | Hrm... yet the iso seems to be there, despite the cdimage mail telling us it failed. | 11:59 |
| astraljava | Well, I suppose we can participate after all. I'll announce it on the lists soon-ish. | 11:59 |
| astraljava | len-dt: Len-nb: I'd appreciate your opinion of the sanity of this, though. I suppose you're the only one who has tested it somewhat extensively. | 12:01 |
| astraljava | on the sanity* | 12:01 |
| len-dt | astraljava, we can do that, but really we haven't done anything. All we are testing is that we are still at 12.04 | 13:14 |
| len-dt | I didn't notice that there was more than one desktop. But everything seems to be there as before. | 13:17 |
| len-dt | astraljava, I should also note I only have i386 HW. | 13:17 |
| astraljava | len-dt: That's fine. But we're not actually testing that, we're testing the the Xfce 4.10 update hasn't given us grief in any way. | 13:33 |
| astraljava | len-dt: I'll do the amd64 tests. | 13:33 |
| len-dt | astraljava, ok, which date ISO should I use? I think I have been using june 24 | 13:42 |
| astraljava | len-dt: In the iso.qa.ubuntu.com tracker the Alpha-2 images are from yesterday's build, 25th. | 13:47 |
| len-dt | downloading... | 13:47 |
| astraljava | len-dt: Mind you, the testcases are most likely rubbish. We're re-doing them on the Xubuntu side. Once I get them semi-finished, I'll look over Studio's and see how they correlate. | 13:47 |
| astraljava | I probably should pay more attention to Studio, but I don't have any titles over on this side of the pond. :D | 13:49 |
| len-dt | astraljava, Shh, you might get some... | 13:49 |
| len-dt | astraljava, how do we put settings in that require the change of a file installed by other packages? | 13:50 |
| len-dt | astraljava, we have made some things available with our kernel, but not set the permissions. I would like to see swappiness changed as well. | 13:54 |
| len-dt | Right now midi programs do not have access to the high precision timers. | 13:54 |
| astraljava | len-dt: I don't know, really. I'll have to read about it. At some point the recommendation was dpkg-divert, but that's history. I'm not sure what needs to be used now. | 14:02 |
| scott-work | len-dt: for what it may be worth, you _could_ correspond with ralph from the mailing list, he's a little different but appears to be fairly knowledgeable, especially about MIDI and timers and jitter | 14:19 |
| scott-work | anybody testing the QA images yet? | 14:20 |
| scott-work | i will start tonight | 14:20 |
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| astraljava | scott-work: I'll try to give the amd64 ones a spin. | 15:56 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Did you enroll us to the milestone? | 15:56 |
| scott-work | astraljava: i believe we are enrolled into the milestones by default and must actively remove ourselves if we choose | 15:58 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Ahh... ok. skaet was just asking explicitly from me over on the Xubuntu side, maybe there was a reason. :) | 16:07 |
| scott-work | astraljava: i don't know about that, hmmmmm | 16:11 |
| scott-work | astraljava: skaet hit me up for the A2 milestone :P | 18:16 |
| astraljava | Ok, and what was your decision? Keeping it? | 18:26 |
| scott-work | yeah, i think we should do it even though there really isn't anything really to "check" as new items or features | 18:31 |
| scott-work | of course there are still the "plumbing" that changes often and might cause some issues | 18:31 |
| scott-work | if you are going to do the 64bit then i'll hit the 32bit images | 18:31 |
| len-dt | scott-work, I have downloaded the 32 bit. I'll print and test in a few minutes.. | 18:50 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Do you know why today's images were added as the Alpha-2 images? | 18:54 |
| len-dt | astraljava, I was about to ask which ones I should test :) | 18:54 |
| astraljava | len-dt: Well, I hope you didn't get to the tests yet with the now outdated images. :) | 18:55 |
| len-dt | I was just about to print the iso, but there is a june 26... | 18:56 |
| len-dt | The testing tracker says the 26th is the one to use. | 18:56 |
| astraljava | Yep. | 18:56 |
| len-dt | When did alpha 1 get done? | 18:56 |
| astraljava | It didn't. | 18:57 |
| astraljava | Or do you mean in general? | 18:57 |
| astraljava | I think it was early June. | 18:57 |
| len-dt | Ah, ok. | 18:57 |
| len-dt | Downloading todays image | 18:58 |
| len-dt | How come there is a fail report on the list astraljava, and yet an ISO too? | 19:00 |
| astraljava | I'm not seeing any reports. | 19:00 |
| astraljava | Both products have 0/2 in Mandatory column. | 19:01 |
| len-dt | astraljava, no I mean in the email list there is a fail report generated at 11.19 today (probably PDT) | 19:02 |
| len-dt | As in fail to build. | 19:02 |
| len-dt | LiveFS ubuntustudio-dvd/quantal/i386 failed to build on 20120626 | 19:02 |
| len-dt | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 19:03 |
| len-dt | linux-lowlatency-pae : Depends: linux-image-lowlatency-pae (= 3.5.0.1.1) but it is | 19:03 |
| len-dt | not going to be installed | 19:03 |
| astraljava | Oh, yeah. *shrug* there was one yesterday for amd64, yet there was an image for it. | 19:03 |
| micahg | rtg should've fixed the meta package when he uploaded it | 19:11 |
| micahg | there should no longer be a pae variant in the meta since there's no longer a pae variant built by the kernel | 19:12 |
| micahg | astraljava: can you file a bug and subscribe rtg? | 19:12 |
| astraljava | micahg: Yes of course, thanks for the update. | 19:13 |
| micahg | *pae named variant, i386 is PAE | 19:13 |
| micahg | the seeds will need an update as well as an ubuntustudio-meta upload when the lowlatency-meta is fixed | 19:14 |
| astraljava | Yep, was just about to head on that direction. | 19:14 |
| len-dt | astraljava, the kernel in the ISO is the old 3.2 one, but is still low lat. | 19:20 |
| len-dt | i386 live session passed. | 19:25 |
| astraljava | micahg: I'm assuming rtg is "serc (rtg)" on LP? | 19:27 |
| micahg | astraljava: no | 19:27 |
| micahg | astraljava: timg-tpi | 19:27 |
| micahg | astraljava: scratch that, it was infinity :)( | 19:28 |
| astraljava | Adam? | 19:29 |
| micahg | yeah | 19:29 |
| astraljava | Thanks. bug #1018075 | 19:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1018075 in ubuntustudio-meta (Ubuntu) "quantal still wants linux-lowlatency-pae on i386 even when that variant has gone away already" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1018075 | 19:29 |
| len-dt | astraljava, when you test the 64bit ISO please look at the menus in nautilus. They look "funny" to me. | 19:30 |
| astraljava | micahg: Does the line " * (linux-headers-lowlatency) [i386 amd64]" look alright to you? I mean, does it need both archs now that the package name is the same for both of them? | 19:31 |
| astraljava | len-dt: Ok, but I might get there tomorrow only, I'm afraid the new images will take a while and I'd need to sleep (probably) during the night. :) | 19:32 |
| micahg | astraljava: yeah, I don't think you need the archs listed, you can look at the history of the file to be sure | 19:32 |
| astraljava | micahg: I'm confused because I see:" * (usb-creator-gtk) [i386 amd64]" | 19:33 |
| micahg | hrm, maybe you do, idr, ISTR germinate will DTRT though since the other archs aren't in the archive | 19:34 |
| astraljava | Ok, I'll purge them. | 19:34 |
| scott-work | skaet just mentioned that they will be respinning our images for a new kernel, not sure the backstory on that though | 19:35 |
| astraljava | scott-work: It was just being taken care of. :) | 19:36 |
| scott-work | oh, good :) | 19:36 |
| len-live | astraljava, If your menus in nautilus look funny, confirm bug #1018080 | 19:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1018080 in ubuntustudio-look (Ubuntu) "colours in some applications menus looks wrong" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1018080 | 19:37 |
| astraljava | scott-work: The details were that the -meta still had -pae variant for i386, it's now removed. I filed the bug #1018075 as per micahg's instructions (thanks!), and updated the seeds regarding the headers accordingly. | 19:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1018075 in ubuntustudio-meta (Ubuntu) "quantal still wants linux-lowlatency-pae on i386 even when that variant has gone away already" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1018075 | 19:38 |
| micahg | astraljava: except you missed the part about the lowlatency-meta :) | 19:38 |
| astraljava | Err... ok, sorry about that. I'll change the package on the bug. :) | 19:39 |
| micahg | astraljava: you might want to poke infinity in -release since it's a blocker | 19:39 |
| micahg | astraljava: no, you need both | 19:39 |
| micahg | I added the task already | 19:39 |
| astraljava | Alright, thanks. /me is still learning when it comes to kernels (especially) | 19:41 |
| len-live | scott-work, BTW, I also see: (apport-gtk:3981): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: misc.css:80:18: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'. | 19:43 |
| len-live | I don't know if this is anything to do with the theme change or not. | 19:43 |
| scott-work | len-live: i don't know, it might be an issue with apport | 19:44 |
| astraljava | len-live: Btw. I'm already having problems with nautilus on precise, once we're past this milestone I'm gonna have to look into that. | 19:44 |
| micahg | astraljava: and apparently I forgot about the 3 other places that need to be fixed :) | 19:44 |
| astraljava | micahg: Noticed, but we can't touch those anyway, can we? :) | 19:45 |
| len-live | Ok, on to install test. | 19:45 |
| micahg | astraljava: I can touch some of them :), but I'll leave it to infinity, and he's right, we need transitional packages | 19:46 |
| astraljava | True dat, also. | 19:46 |
| astraljava | micahg: scott-work: len-live: I'll be taking a nap now. I try to keep it short, so if you need something done, I'll see it in a few. Otherwise, I think we can proceed now. Thanks everyone so far! | 19:47 |
| * micahg should be around for another few hours working | 19:48 | |
| len-live | astraljava, micahg proceed? Is there another ISO roll? or can I continue with the one I have? | 19:49 |
| micahg | len-live: there will be another, but you probably want to test what you have in case there are bugs in non-kernel related things | 19:50 |
| len-live | ok micahg installing now. | 19:50 |
| len-live | scott-work, The background for the text is also the wrong colour on ubiquity. | 19:52 |
| scott-work | len-live: hmmm, that's disappointing because i thought we had worked through that before | 19:57 |
| len-live | scott-work, Remember we have xfce 4.10 now. Themeing may have changed | 19:58 |
| len-live | Some apps are still ok (Xchat for example) | 19:59 |
| len-dt | micahg, what package would I put a kernel module (ath9k) bug under? | 20:01 |
| micahg | should be linux I think | 20:01 |
| len-dt | Ok, I wasn't sure if there was a second package of the modules. | 20:02 |
| micahg | not AFAICT | 20:02 |
| scott-work | len-dt: ah hes, i had forgotten | 20:04 |
| len-dt | micahg, Just installed ubuntustudio 12.10 alpha... tried ubuntu-bug linux. It says it can't report the bug because it is not an "official" ubuntu package :-) | 21:04 |
| len-dt | Guess I have to wait for the reroll of the ISO before reporting that one. | 21:04 |
| micahg | len-dt: hrm, well, there was a meta bump already :( | 21:04 |
| micahg | yeah, that's a kernel bug though, so you might want to wait for the new one, what does uname -a say? | 21:05 |
| len-1210 | len@Ustudio1210:~$ uname -a | 21:06 |
| len-1210 | Linux Ustudio1210 3.2.0-23-lowlatency-pae #31-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Wed Apr 11 04:07:36 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux | 21:06 |
| micahg | yeah, no point in reporting that | 21:06 |
| micahg | at least on a quantal image | 21:06 |
| len-1210 | Thats what it builds with... so tha in itself is a bug. | 21:07 |
| len-1210 | But in progress I guess? | 21:07 |
| micahg | no, but the respin now will pick up 3.5 | 21:07 |
| len-1210 | do you know the eta? | 21:08 |
| micahg | nope | 21:08 |
| len-1210 | I won't wait then | 21:08 |
| len-dt | micahg, will the respin still be alpha 2? | 21:11 |
| micahg | yes, alpha2 candidate | 21:11 |
| ailo | I guess we should think about what to do with -lowlatency? | 22:37 |
| ailo | Haven't read anything new from UTK for a while about it | 22:38 |
| len-dt | ailo, if we will test against generic it will have to be 3.5. I don't know if any of the changes have affected low latency operation for good or bad. | 23:29 |
| ailo | We definately do need to test. I tried uploading the source to PPA a couple of weeks ago, but made a mistake. Haven't had time since. Will do it again later this week | 23:33 |
| ailo | I hope to start working on testing later this week, and also start looking at how we could improve the developer wiki | 23:34 |
| ailo | Time to start thinking about -controls as well, if that is to be included for next release | 23:35 |
| ailo | Been really busy :P | 23:35 |
| ailo | And the midsummer was long and hazy | 23:36 |
| ailo | I'm going to pursue becoming a member of the Debian Multimedia Team btw | 23:36 |
| ailo | Not going to happen over night though | 23:36 |
| micahg | ailo: lowlatency 3.5 is in the quantal repo now | 23:37 |
| ailo | micahg: I see. | 23:37 |
| ailo | But we will want to try some different cofigs nevertheless, so I will still upload to PPA later | 23:38 |
| ailo | Seems like UTK is maintaining -lowlatency for quantal then | 23:39 |
| ailo | The precise kernel is still not up to date, right? | 23:41 |
| ailo | 3.2.0-23 | 23:41 |
| ailo | Well, another day tomorrow :) | 23:43 |
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