[04:23] <esevece> Hi. I've recently installed Ubuntu Studio 12.04 but it didn't start Jack. I've found the solution:
[04:24] <esevece> I've added my user to audio group.
[04:24] <esevece> And renamed the file audio.conf.disabled (etc/security/limits.d) to audio.conf
[04:24] <esevece> Logout and Login. Now Jack is working.
[04:24] <esevece> Have someone access to the distribution for fix it?
[07:30] <astraljava> Err... who entered us into Alpha-2? Scott?
[07:33] <astraljava> We don't even have a currently building amd64 image, and on top of that we're having gnome-desktop seeded (due recommends).
[07:34] <astraljava> I suppose it won't hurt, in the end, but I'm not sure, and I particularly wouldn't want to see it there, it is bloating our images, and every bit of cruft is a potential game-breaker.
[11:59] <astraljava> Hrm... yet the iso seems to be there, despite the cdimage mail telling us it failed.
[11:59] <astraljava> Well, I suppose we can participate after all. I'll announce it on the lists soon-ish.
[12:01] <astraljava> len-dt: Len-nb: I'd appreciate your opinion of the sanity of this, though. I suppose you're the only one who has tested it somewhat extensively.
[12:01] <astraljava> on the sanity*
[13:14] <len-dt> astraljava, we can do that, but really we haven't done anything. All we are testing is that we are still at 12.04
[13:17] <len-dt> I didn't notice that there was more than one desktop. But everything seems to be there as before.
[13:17] <len-dt> astraljava, I should also note I only have i386 HW.
[13:33] <astraljava> len-dt: That's fine. But we're not actually testing that, we're testing the the Xfce 4.10 update hasn't given us grief in any way.
[13:33] <astraljava> len-dt: I'll do the amd64 tests.
[13:42] <len-dt> astraljava, ok, which date ISO should I use? I think I have been using june 24
[13:47] <astraljava> len-dt: In the iso.qa.ubuntu.com tracker the Alpha-2 images are from yesterday's build, 25th.
[13:47] <len-dt> downloading...
[13:47] <astraljava> len-dt: Mind you, the testcases are most likely rubbish. We're re-doing them on the Xubuntu side. Once I get them semi-finished, I'll look over Studio's and see how they correlate.
[13:49] <astraljava> I probably should pay more attention to Studio, but I don't have any titles over on this side of the pond. :D
[13:49] <len-dt> astraljava, Shh, you might get some...
[13:50] <len-dt> astraljava, how do we put settings in that require the change of a file installed by other packages?
[13:54] <len-dt> astraljava, we have made some things available with our kernel, but not set the permissions. I would like to see swappiness changed as well.
[13:54] <len-dt> Right now midi programs do not have access to the high precision timers.
[14:02] <astraljava> len-dt: I don't know, really. I'll have to read about it. At some point the recommendation was dpkg-divert, but that's history. I'm not sure what needs to be used now.
[14:19] <scott-work> len-dt: for what it may be worth, you _could_ correspond with ralph from the mailing list, he's a little different but appears to be fairly knowledgeable, especially about MIDI and timers and jitter
[14:20] <scott-work> anybody testing the QA images yet?
[14:20] <scott-work> i will start tonight
[15:56] <astraljava> scott-work: I'll try to give the amd64 ones a spin.
[15:56] <astraljava> scott-work: Did you enroll us to the milestone?
[15:58] <scott-work> astraljava: i believe we are enrolled into the milestones by default and must actively remove ourselves if we choose
[16:07] <astraljava> scott-work: Ahh... ok. skaet was just asking explicitly from me over on the Xubuntu side, maybe there was a reason. :)
[16:11] <scott-work> astraljava: i don't know about that, hmmmmm
[18:16] <scott-work> astraljava: skaet hit me up for the A2 milestone :P
[18:26] <astraljava> Ok, and what was your decision? Keeping it?
[18:31] <scott-work> yeah, i think we should do it even though there really isn't anything really to "check" as new items or features
[18:31] <scott-work> of course there are still the "plumbing" that changes often and might cause some issues
[18:31] <scott-work> if you are going to do the 64bit then i'll hit the 32bit images
[18:50] <len-dt> scott-work, I have downloaded the 32 bit. I'll print and test in a few minutes..
[18:54] <astraljava> scott-work: Do you know why today's images were added as the Alpha-2 images?
[18:54] <len-dt> astraljava, I was about to ask which ones I should test :)
[18:55] <astraljava> len-dt: Well, I hope you didn't get to the tests yet with the now outdated images. :)
[18:56] <len-dt> I was just about to print the iso, but there is a june 26...
[18:56] <len-dt> The testing tracker says the 26th is the one to use.
[18:56] <astraljava> Yep.
[18:56] <len-dt> When did alpha 1 get done?
[18:57] <astraljava> It didn't.
[18:57] <astraljava> Or do you mean in general?
[18:57] <astraljava> I think it was early June.
[18:57] <len-dt> Ah, ok.
[18:58] <len-dt> Downloading todays image
[19:00] <len-dt> How come there is a fail report on the list astraljava, and yet an ISO too?
[19:00] <astraljava> I'm not seeing any reports.
[19:01] <astraljava> Both products have 0/2 in Mandatory column.
[19:02] <len-dt> astraljava, no I mean in the email list there is a fail report generated at 11.19 today (probably PDT)
[19:02] <len-dt> As in fail to build.
[19:02] <len-dt> LiveFS ubuntustudio-dvd/quantal/i386 failed to build on 20120626
[19:03] <len-dt> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[19:03] <len-dt>  linux-lowlatency-pae : Depends: linux-image-lowlatency-pae (= 3.5.0.1.1) but it is
[19:03] <len-dt> not going to be installed
[19:03] <astraljava> Oh, yeah. *shrug* there was one yesterday for amd64, yet there was an image for it.
[19:11] <micahg> rtg should've fixed the meta package when he uploaded it
[19:12] <micahg> there should no longer be a pae variant in the meta since there's no longer a pae variant built by the kernel
[19:12] <micahg> astraljava: can you file a bug and subscribe rtg?
[19:13] <astraljava> micahg: Yes of course, thanks for the update.
[19:13] <micahg> *pae named variant, i386 is PAE
[19:14] <micahg> the seeds will need an update as well as an ubuntustudio-meta upload when the lowlatency-meta is fixed
[19:14] <astraljava> Yep, was just about to head on that direction.
[19:20] <len-dt> astraljava, the kernel in the ISO is the old 3.2 one, but is still low lat.
[19:25] <len-dt> i386 live session passed.
[19:27] <astraljava> micahg: I'm assuming rtg is "serc (rtg)" on LP?
[19:27] <micahg> astraljava: no
[19:27] <micahg> astraljava: timg-tpi
[19:28] <micahg> astraljava: scratch that, it was infinity :)(
[19:29] <astraljava> Adam?
[19:29] <micahg> yeah
[19:29] <astraljava> Thanks. bug #1018075
[19:30] <len-dt> astraljava, when you test the 64bit ISO please look at the menus in nautilus. They look "funny" to me.
[19:31] <astraljava> micahg: Does the line " * (linux-headers-lowlatency) [i386 amd64]" look alright to you? I mean, does it need both archs now that the package name is the same for both of them?
[19:32] <astraljava> len-dt: Ok, but I might get there tomorrow only, I'm afraid the new images will take a while and I'd need to sleep (probably) during the night. :)
[19:32] <micahg> astraljava: yeah, I don't think you need the archs listed, you can look at the history of the file to be sure
[19:33] <astraljava> micahg: I'm confused because I see:" * (usb-creator-gtk) [i386 amd64]"
[19:34] <micahg> hrm, maybe you do, idr, ISTR germinate will DTRT though since the other archs aren't in the archive
[19:34] <astraljava> Ok, I'll purge them.
[19:35] <scott-work> skaet just mentioned that they will be respinning our images for a new kernel, not sure the backstory on that though
[19:36] <astraljava> scott-work: It was just being taken care of. :)
[19:36] <scott-work> oh, good :)
[19:37] <len-live> astraljava, If your menus in nautilus look funny, confirm bug  #1018080
[19:38] <astraljava> scott-work: The details were that the -meta still had -pae variant for i386, it's now removed. I filed the bug #1018075 as per micahg's instructions (thanks!), and updated the seeds regarding the headers accordingly.
[19:38] <micahg> astraljava: except you missed the part about the lowlatency-meta :)
[19:39] <astraljava> Err... ok, sorry about that. I'll change the package on the bug. :)
[19:39] <micahg> astraljava: you might want to poke infinity in -release since it's a blocker
[19:39] <micahg> astraljava: no, you need both
[19:39] <micahg> I added the task already
[19:41] <astraljava> Alright, thanks. /me is still learning when it comes to kernels (especially)
[19:43] <len-live> scott-work, BTW, I also see: (apport-gtk:3981): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: misc.css:80:18: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'.
[19:43] <len-live> I don't know if this is anything to do with the theme change or not.
[19:44] <scott-work> len-live: i don't know, it might be an issue with apport
[19:44] <astraljava> len-live: Btw. I'm already having problems with nautilus on precise, once we're past this milestone I'm gonna have to look into that.
[19:44] <micahg> astraljava: and apparently I forgot about the 3 other places that need to be fixed :)
[19:45] <astraljava> micahg: Noticed, but we can't touch those anyway, can we? :)
[19:45] <len-live> Ok, on to install test.
[19:46] <micahg> astraljava: I can touch some of them :), but I'll leave it to infinity, and he's right, we need transitional packages
[19:46] <astraljava> True dat, also.
[19:47] <astraljava> micahg: scott-work: len-live: I'll be taking a nap now. I try to keep it short, so if you need something done, I'll see it in a few. Otherwise, I think we can proceed now. Thanks everyone so far!
[19:48]  * micahg should be around for another few hours working
[19:49] <len-live> astraljava, micahg proceed? Is there another ISO roll? or can I continue with the one I have?
[19:50] <micahg> len-live: there will be another, but you probably want to test what you have in case there are bugs in non-kernel related things
[19:50] <len-live> ok micahg installing now.
[19:52] <len-live> scott-work, The background for the text is also the wrong colour on ubiquity.
[19:57] <scott-work> len-live: hmmm, that's disappointing because i thought we had worked through that before
[19:58] <len-live> scott-work, Remember we have xfce 4.10 now. Themeing may have changed
[19:59] <len-live> Some apps are still ok (Xchat for example)
[20:01] <len-dt> micahg, what package would I put a kernel module (ath9k) bug under?
[20:01] <micahg> should be linux I think
[20:02] <len-dt> Ok, I wasn't sure if there was a second package of the modules.
[20:02] <micahg> not AFAICT
[20:04] <scott-work> len-dt: ah hes, i had forgotten
[21:04] <len-dt> micahg, Just installed ubuntustudio 12.10 alpha... tried ubuntu-bug linux. It says it can't report the bug because it is not an "official" ubuntu package   :-)
[21:04] <len-dt> Guess I have to wait for the reroll of the ISO before reporting that one.
[21:04] <micahg> len-dt: hrm, well, there was a meta bump already :(
[21:05] <micahg> yeah, that's a kernel bug though, so you might want to wait for the new one, what does uname -a say?
[21:06] <len-1210> len@Ustudio1210:~$ uname -a
[21:06] <len-1210> Linux Ustudio1210 3.2.0-23-lowlatency-pae #31-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Wed Apr 11 04:07:36 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[21:06] <micahg> yeah, no point in reporting that
[21:06] <micahg> at least on a quantal image
[21:07] <len-1210> Thats what it builds with... so tha in itself is a bug.
[21:07] <len-1210> But in progress I guess?
[21:07] <micahg> no, but the respin now will pick up 3.5
[21:08] <len-1210> do you know the eta?
[21:08] <micahg> nope
[21:08] <len-1210> I won't wait then
[21:11] <len-dt> micahg, will the respin still be alpha 2?
[21:11] <micahg> yes, alpha2 candidate
[22:37] <ailo> I guess we should think about what to do with -lowlatency?
[22:38] <ailo> Haven't read anything new from UTK for a while about it
[23:29] <len-dt> ailo, if we will test against generic it will have to be 3.5. I don't know if any of the changes have affected low latency operation for good or bad.
[23:33] <ailo> We definately do need to test. I tried uploading the source to PPA a couple of weeks ago, but made a mistake. Haven't had time since. Will do it again later this week
[23:34] <ailo> I hope to start working on testing later this week, and also start looking at how we could improve the developer wiki
[23:35] <ailo> Time to start thinking about -controls as well, if that is to be included for next release
[23:35] <ailo> Been really busy :P
[23:36] <ailo> And the midsummer was long and hazy
[23:36] <ailo> I'm going to pursue becoming a member of the Debian Multimedia Team btw
[23:36] <ailo> Not going to happen over night though
[23:37] <micahg> ailo: lowlatency 3.5 is in the quantal repo now
[23:37] <ailo> micahg: I see.
[23:38] <ailo> But we will want to try some different cofigs nevertheless, so I will still upload to PPA later
[23:39] <ailo> Seems like UTK is maintaining -lowlatency for quantal then
[23:41] <ailo> The precise kernel is still not up to date, right?
[23:41] <ailo> 3.2.0-23
[23:43] <ailo> Well, another day tomorrow :)