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nhandlerimbrandon: I think I have a google notebook of some sort (both paper and cr48) sitting around from last year's GSoC. You planning on coming by Chicago any time soon?00:18
imbrandonnhandler: actually01:16
imbrandoni'm not too far from chi and make it that way about once every 6ish months ( have family just outside of STL on the IL side )01:17
imbrandonat first i was like damn :( but then you said chi and not CA :)01:17
imbrandonor I'd be more than happy to foot a ups/fedex package prepaid as well ( would be the same in extra gas heh ) , just drop me a line sometime at me@brandonholtsclaw.com if i'm afk :)01:19
mhall119imbrandon: the countdown looks fantastic!01:20
mhall119imbrandon: I have only one request, can you make the main title at the top point to http://developer.ubuntu.com/showdown/ ?01:21
imbrandonmhall119: thanks and sure thing01:21
mhall119thanks man01:21
imbrandonthats one nice thing about hosted is anyone useing it will get that update too01:22
imbrandonright now the non-js image is manual but before tomarrow afternnon i'll have it on like 10 min cronjobs from wkhtmltoimg screenshots01:22
imbrandon( man i love that cli app )01:23
imbrandonso even without js it will be semi active01:23
imbrandon:)01:23
imbrandonand work on planet ubuntu :)01:23
imbrandonalso one without the wording in the middle is on its way up here in a moment01:23
imbrandonjust the ticker and title01:24
imbrandonand then soonish a purple one if i can find colors i like01:24
imbrandonhehe01:24
bkerensa.01:30
imbrandonmhall119: link is live on the header, and I also added a query string of ?from=widget01:38
imbrandonjust ince case you want/can track it from like google analytics01:38
imbrandonor such01:38
imbrandoni'll make that a real feature and more robust in the next itteration or two of them but its easy manually for now :)01:39
imbrandonabout to shortlink all the JS urls as well so the copy and past is smaller using http://git.io shortner01:39
imbrandonunless ubuntu/canonical has one ?01:39
cjohnstonimbrandon: is https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/faq.html your theam?01:57
cjohnstontheme01:57
imbrandonumm lemme see01:58
imbrandonone sec01:58
imbrandondoes it match jujucharms.com/docs01:58
imbrandonyet ?01:58
imbrandone.g it should be my theme but the server is broken and rthere is an rt ticken in to fix it01:58
cjohnstoni dont think so.. the sub-nav is bad01:59
cjohnstongotcha01:59
imbrandonyea01:59
imbrandonthats half my thme01:59
imbrandontheme01:59
imbrandonits not building right , right now01:59
cjohnstonic01:59
imbrandonbut http://www.jujucharms.com/docs is, and it builds from the same source etc, just lives on another server so works01:59
imbrandonand that one is up to date and yes my theme02:00
cjohnstongotcha02:00
imbrandon( still got more to do but its acceptable ) hehe02:00
imbrandonand if you pull the docs branch and build local it will be whats on charms.com02:00
imbrandonfyi02:00
imbrandonanyhow, just curious or need something ?02:01
cjohnstonjust cause it was broken, I wasnt sure02:01
imbrandon( yea the secondary nave and front page are side effects of the broken build not competing , clint put an rt ticket in for me like 3 days ago02:02
cjohnstonjcastro: juju.ubuntu.com seems to have issues on a couple pages, Testing and CodeandBugs02:02
imbrandonwe'll seee when it get fixed or is i just redirect the wiki toj ujucharms.com heh02:02
imbrandoncjohnston: give me a list in PM i've been toiching those up as i find em too02:03
imbrandonor email02:03
imbrandonand i'll get em if no one else does first02:03
imbrandonnext time i;m on it02:03
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jonomhall119, around?03:17
imbrandonlooks like he caved early :)03:48
cjohnstonit is almost midnight03:49
dholbachgood morning07:03
czajkowskimorning08:02
cjohnstonmornin10:59
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dholbachmhall119, hey12:53
dholbachwould you have some time for a call in a bit?12:53
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mhall119dholbach: sure, give me a few minutes13:32
dholbachsure sure13:33
mhall119dholbach: invite sent13:38
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mhall119paultag: ping14:34
paultagmhall119: pong14:34
mhall119paultag: is it possible to add custom checks to lintian without patching lintian itself?14:34
paultagmhall119: yep14:34
paultagwell14:35
paultagkinda, but mostly yep14:35
paultagwhat's up14:35
mhall119where might I find info on doing that?14:35
paultagthat's a bit more of a task :)14:35
paultagmhall119: to neckbeard questions14:35
mhall119paultag: we have some special requirements for packages going into extras.ubuntu.com that I want to automate checks for14:35
paultagmhall119: 1) what is it you're trying to do, and 2) can it get into lintian it's self14:35
paultagahhh, I see.14:35
paultagmhall119: yep, no problem!14:35
mhall119so, it's really specific only to Ubuntu, and even then only to a subset of Ubuntu packages14:36
paultagmhall119: well, ubuntu stuff is upstream too14:36
mhall119even something this specific?14:36
paultagyeah, because there are lintian profiles -- e.g. the changelog check is disabled for ubuntu14:37
paultagbut what is it doing?14:37
paultagmhall119: but anyway, you have two options14:37
mhall119I don't know everything, but the big requirement is that it installs (almost) everything into /opt/14:37
paultagAhhhh, yeah, ok, cool14:37
paultagmhall119: so you have two options14:37
paultagmhall119: first is two create lintian4extras, which sets LINTIAN_ROOT and runs lintian14:37
paultagmhall119: the second is to make a package that drops some new tests into /usr/share/lintian14:38
paultagI believe it's that easy14:38
paultagbut I've never tried14:38
paultagmhall119: you could email nthykier@d.o14:38
mhall119thanks, I'll look into the /usr/share/lintian/ scripts14:38
mhall119thanks man14:40
mhall119you're my token Debian guy now :)14:40
paultag:)14:40
paultagI'm happy to better Ubuntu / Debian relations :)14:40
mhall119though cjohnston might become that from what I hear14:40
cjohnstonnah14:41
cjohnston:-P14:41
paultaghe's been doing some work in the DPMT14:41
paultagI'm happy to see it :)14:41
mhall119me too14:41
mhall119that means I can trade summit work for debian work14:42
paultagI've sponsored two ubuntu developers in the last 3 days :)14:42
paultagI'd be fine with helping you too14:42
paultagif you needed it, of course14:42
mhall119I know, but you do it out of kindness14:42
paultagtrue, I'm just so selfless14:43
paultagcharity will be my downfall14:43
paultagI'm just too generous14:43
mhall119charity signs your paycheck doesn't it?14:43
paultagactually true14:44
paultagblah, actual code I just wrote - print "%s: %s" % ( thing, row[guy][thing] )14:46
jono_dholbach, jcastro, mhall119, balloons invite sent for our hangout14:57
* balloons goes to look14:59
balloons"There was an error contacting the server. Please try again."14:59
jono_mhall119, all set?15:03
mhall119joining now15:03
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dholbachalright my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow! :)16:21
cjohnstonI/O keynote broadcasting live for anyone interested16:36
balloonscjohnston, does empathy work for you in quantal?16:36
cjohnstondunno16:36
cjohnstonI don't normally use it16:37
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balloonscjohnston, so what did you think of i/o keynote?18:45
cjohnstonballoons: I'm not done with it unfortunatly.. Mark has his work cutout for him tho at the UDS keynote. Maybe he will jump out of the plane18:46
balloonslol18:46
balloonsnotice sergi didn't jump18:46
cjohnstonlol18:46
balloonshe really has trouble speaking in public18:46
cjohnstonthen you can jump.. I mean.. you will float right?18:46
balloonsheck yea18:47
balloonscontrolled movements18:47
paultagit was a nuts showing18:48
paultagit's crazy they jumped from a hang out, biked, repeled down a building, almost hit some people biking in and jumped onstage with little jerk in the video stream18:48
* balloons will be getting a nexus 7 ( I think )18:52
paultagmeh18:53
paultagI want one of those orbs18:53
paultagI might make one out of my raspberry pi18:53
balloonsAlanBell, can you retest your screen reader install on the new iso?19:49
balloonshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/101696919:49
ubot2Ubuntu bug 1016969 in ubiquity "daily live cd boots silent in virtualbox" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:49
balloonsI'm having no sound issues as well, but not in the same way you are19:49
AlanBellzsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/quantal-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync19:50
AlanBellwill do it shortly19:50
balloonsAlanBell, excellent, thank you19:51
mhall119balloons: is that "(no sound) issues" or "no (sound issues)"?20:00
balloonsmhall119, tricky tricky20:01
mhall119English is just too imprecise20:01
balloonsThe issue am am experiencing is the lack of sound present during the installation whereby I may utilize accessibility options such as a screen reader20:01
balloonss/am/I/20:01
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* AlanBell relaxes from the drama on G+ by testing quantal20:19
czajkowskilol20:21
czajkowskipoor AlanBell20:21
czajkowskitrying to do something nice and getting chewed20:21
AlanBellballoons: I get no sound still20:23
AlanBelland I can't get any as the devices that did work are not there any more20:23
AlanBellthen again, maybe they are20:24
mhall119what'd poor AlanBell do?20:24
cjohnstoninvited all of google plus to a bbq20:24
AlanBellballoons: on the ubiquity screen if you go to the sound indicator and sound settings there is a connector dropdown, if you select an LFE option you should have sound20:24
balloonsAlanBell, right.. I've got no LFE option20:25
balloonsbut does it work for you assuming you select it?20:25
mhall119everybody on the internet is going to AlanBell's house for free food?20:25
AlanBellballoons: yeah, works for me, the connector is below the balance slider20:25
AlanBellmhall119: yup, the whole internet20:25
AlanBellactually waiting for replies from 364 people still, but the rest of the internet is coming20:26
balloonsFUNNY! https://plus.google.com/102150693225130002912/posts/Lwz4yjasX6d20:26
AlanBellballoons: yeah, I think I invited him too20:27
czajkowskiAlanBell: being polite20:28
czajkowskimeh think some people just over react20:28
czajkowski:s20:28
balloonsAlanBell, so yes.. on the sound thing, I can't seem to get sound at all in my vm. So I'm assuming it's a just me thing20:28
balloonsbut it stops me from being able to test orca :-(20:28
AlanBellballoons: what version of virtualbox?>20:28
balloons4.1.1820:28
AlanBellI am using 4.1.18 too20:29
AlanBellhow are we seeing different things?20:29
balloonshw is not the same20:29
balloons:-)20:29
AlanBellbut it is!20:30
balloonsnot sure.. the other thing is how you setup the audio passthru20:30
balloonsusing pulse, oss, or alsa20:30
balloonsand passing thru which audio chipset20:30
balloonsso many options20:30
balloonsusing kvm or not20:30
* balloons not liking events at all. Then I discovered I can add a G+ hangout20:31
balloonsfinally we can schedule g+ hangouts again20:31
daker-cloudhi20:32
mhall119AlanBell: if it makes you feel any better, I'd come if I could20:35
cjohnstonI offered to go20:37
AlanBellmhall119: well I would have invited you even if it wasn't an accident :)20:37
czajkowskimhall119: does amazing fall off the bone bbq meat20:38
czajkowskimhall119: hows the beast20:38
paultagAlanBell: just got your invite, thanks for that :)20:39
paultagAlanBell: it's a bit of a swim at the moment, but thank you :)20:39
nhandlerSame here20:39
AlanBell:)20:39
nhandlerBut the trampoline sounds fun20:39
paultagmmmm!20:40
AlanBellso extended circles is people who follow people who follow you, right?20:40
akgranerballoons, does it work with "on Air" as well20:40
balloonsakgraner, hmm20:40
AlanBelland Amanda Blain follows me and she has over a million followers20:40
mhall119czajkowski: I assume you're referring to Blake20:41
balloonsakgraner, yep!20:41
AlanBellshe is like even more popular than akgraner20:41
mhall119in which case he's as lazy and noisy as ever20:41
balloonsakgraner, so cool.. hit event options, advanced :-)20:41
AlanBelloh hi Amber, how are things?20:41
akgranerlooks my IT person has to enable that feature20:41
akgranerballoons, I don't have an even option - which is the same thing Pete just told me20:41
akgranergrrrr20:42
akgranerAlanBell, great and you?20:42
balloonssurely you can't be poking pgraner again?20:42
* paultag holks back a joke20:42
akgranerballoons, ALWAYS!!!20:42
paultags/holks/holds/g20:42
mhall119akgraner: it was there until AlanBell invited everybody on G+ to his BBQ20:42
greg-gpaultag: is that kind of like a hulk joke?20:42
paultaggreg-g: 16:42 < balloons> surely you can't be poking pgraner again?20:42
czajkowskimhall119: yes who else!20:43
AlanBell#blameAlanBell20:43
mhall119czajkowski: well given that Quinn just got himself into trouble again....20:43
greg-gpaultag: ?????20:43
paultaggreg-g: srsly?! you can't think of one joke?20:43
mhall119paultag: family-friendly channel20:43
greg-g:)20:43
paultagmhall119: 16:42  * paultag holks back a joke20:44
czajkowskimhall119: be nice you20:44
paultagholds * :)20:44
* AlanBell tickles everyone until they behave20:44
mhall119heh20:44
mhall119oh RTD, why can't you be simpler?20:45
akgranerNow I have the event option20:47
akgranersweet20:47
AlanBellcareful!20:47
* balloons watches akgraner fill her schedule with non-stop on-air interviews20:50
akgranerballoons, yep20:55
akgraner:-)20:55
mhall119akgraner: you're going to end up making your own big-brother like reality show20:56
akgranermhall119,  :-)20:56
akgranerI keep trying to get Pete to do a joint interview about Being involved in Open Source with me20:56
* mhall119 trademarks "Keeping up with the Graners"20:57
akgranerit would not be family friendly I don't think and lots of bleeps I think20:57
balloonsmhall119, hehe20:57
mhall119akgraner: with Pete?  never20:57
akgranermhall119, it would be funny though20:57
mhall119heck yeah it would20:58
mhall119I bet we could talk your kids into just following you around with a video camera20:58
akgranermhall119, they do sometimes20:59
cjohnstonI bet they already do20:59
akgranerit would be funny if they weren't my kids20:59
mhall119forget year of the linux desktop20:59
mhall119this'll be the "Year or the Linux Sitcom"20:59
akgranerhahaha20:59
akgranerthey ratted me out the other day - b/c the first time I ever say an ARM board like 6 years or so ago I asked who cut up a motherboard and made a paper weight out of it21:00
mhall119seriously though, the ad revenue would probably be pretty good21:00
cjohnstonlol21:00
akgranerI'll tell you what  - if you can get Pete to agree  - I'll film a day in our life and post it unedited21:01
mhall119I'm not sure the Internet is ready for that21:01
akgranersee you're scared too21:02
akgraner:-P21:02
akgraneryeah Pete scares me too - so I understand :-)21:02
akgranerj/k21:02
mhall119who said it was because of Pete?21:02
akgranerhaha21:03
akgranerI <3 all y'all!  I am counting the days until UDS21:04
akgranerOh 7th Edition of the Official Ubuntu Book is now available for Pre-order comes out July 9th21:04
akgranerAnd I interviewed Pete for issue 13 of Ubuntu User Magazine which is available now :-)21:05
jonomhall119, have you written tests in Quickly21:06
mhall119jono: no, but I've written pyunit tests for Django before21:09
jonomhall119, let me pastebin something21:10
cjohnstonNo, but i stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.21:10
balloonscjohnston, bah.. I'm staying at a holiday inn express tonight!21:10
mhall119balloons: traveling?21:11
mhall119or was that another joke21:11
jonomhall119, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1063255/21:11
jonomhall119, the test file is at the bottom21:12
jonowhen I run quickly test I get:21:12
jonoAttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'my_function'21:12
jonoI am sure I am making a newbie error here21:12
balloonsmhall119, both :-)21:12
mhall119jono: you'll have to do:21:12
balloonsmhall119, cjohnston I'm actually coming to Orlando Friday21:13
mhall119window = FoobarWindow()21:13
cjohnstoncool.. when where21:13
mhall119res = window.my_function(20)21:13
balloonscjohnston, not sure exactly, my wife has some surprise for me21:13
cjohnstonuh oh21:13
mhall119jono: let's hack in here: http://pad.ubuntu.com/g1Y0nJW8E721:14
jonomhall119, cheers21:14
jonomhall119, ok, so when I add that now I get:21:16
jono(nosetests:16347): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'net.launchpad.foobar' is not installed21:16
czajkowskisimon has the right plan https://plus.google.com/104284466618076664967/posts/EWCQq3CCFaK21:17
mhall119net.launchpad? where's that coming from?21:17
jonomhall119, no idea21:18
jonothis is a new test Quickly project21:18
AlanBellmhall119: java stuff puts domains backwards21:18
AlanBelland other stuff, it is foobar.launchpad.net21:18
mhall119AlanBell: java isn't involved here either21:18
AlanBellyeah, I see that now21:19
jonomhall119, it looks like it is in foobar_lib/Window.py:21:19
mhall119jono: and you're running this with "quickly test"?21:19
jonomhall119, I commented it out21:19
jonoyay! it runs now :-)21:20
mhall119hmmm, interesting tht Quickly does that21:20
mhall119should probably be changed to something not launchpad related21:20
jonoyup21:20
jonoit is a GSettings thing21:20
mhall119I wonder why it doesn't give an error in "quickly run", but does on "quickly test"...21:21
ajmitchAlanBell: you're sorting flights to your place for the bbq? :)21:22
AlanBellyup, by hot air balloon21:23
ajmitchexcellent, I'd better leave soon for it then21:23
czajkowskijono: curse you mines is addictive21:52
jonoczajkowski, :-)21:52
jonoAlanBell, hey21:54
jonoany chance we can get a meeting bot in #ubuntu-accomplishments ?21:54
czajkowskiAlanBell: you getting any 404s on the gb mirror on updates?22:10
AlanBellno czajkowski, it is fine for me22:11
czajkowskihmmm22:11
czajkowskiAlanBell: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/unity-team/lenses-testing/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found22:12
czajkowskiW: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/unity-team/lenses-testing/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found22:12
czajkowskiW: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/unity-team/lenses-testing/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found22:12
czajkowskiE: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.22:13
czajkowskibah22:13
AlanBellczajkowski: that is a ppa22:13
czajkowskiaye22:13
AlanBelland a precise one on quantal22:13
czajkowskinot what I meant to copy22:13
AlanBellprobably22:13
czajkowskiI also have this red triangle as well22:13
czajkowskiwhich is new22:13
DavieyAlanBell: did you invite the world to your house?22:26
cjohnstonhehehe22:27
DavieyAlanBell: I can see you getting 10000's turning up22:27
AlanBellI seem to have invited about 400 people,22:28
DavieyAlanBell: Jorge Castro, James Westby, Steve Langasek and 380 more are invited ... I assume they are all +Guests?22:33
AlanBellsure, why not!22:33
DavieyAlanBell: I'm going to forward the invite to a local radio station for good measure.22:33
cjohnston Maybe we can just have UDS at AlanBell's house so we can all get sponsored22:35
PendulumDaviey: only a local one?22:35
AlanBellUDS at my house would be rather convenient22:35
* AlanBell works out how to do breakfast for 50022:38
Davieybagsy the sofa22:40
Davieycjohnston: you can have the bathtub22:41
AlanBellI think a few people might be in with the chickens22:41
DavieyPendulum: you are stuck with the chickens22:41
AlanBellaww, I couldn't stick Pendulum in with the chickens!22:42
Pendulumwouldn't it be better to put the Kubuntu folks in with the chickens since the chickens are already familiar with kubuntu?22:42
AlanBellshe can go on the trampoline22:42
AlanBellactually they now use Ubuntu server, so Daviey could be at home with the chickens22:42
DavieyEeeeeek22:42
DavieyLast time i was in that close proximity to chickens, i got into trouble22:43
DavieyI think i ave a restraining order still.22:43
AlanBellgosh, that sounds like an interesting Daviey story22:43
DavieyOne for another day22:43
PendulumI guess I know what story is being told at the BBQ22:44
DavieyPendulum: will you come?22:44
* Daviey heads to bed22:46
PendulumDaviey: Only if someone else pays :(22:46
AlanBellPendulum: you can come via skype or a hangout or something22:47
DavieyPendulum: You charge for your attendance ?!22:47
AlanBellI will rig up a projector and camera or something22:47
PendulumDaviey: I have no money for travel :(22:47
Davieyah22:48
Daviey:(22:48
PendulumAlanBell: so the we can break something with all the remote attendees?22:48
Pendulum*then22:48
* AlanBell likes this plan22:48
AlanBellI think a big screen somehow22:49
DavieyA,AlanBell ]\22:49
DavieyAlanBell: well, for me it will be work... I need to do a product analysis of how your chicken server deployment is doing22:49
Davieyand on that note, bed22:50
Davieynn all22:50
AlanBellnight all o/22:50
Pendulumg'night Daviey22:50
balloonsalright, I am off for the evening as well.. g-night all23:05
JanCif anybody is in Belgium on Saturday July 14th and wants to attend an Ubuntu-be "braai" (Afrikaans for BBQ), please ping me   ;)23:51

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