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hallynDaviey: ikonia: my last round of kvm perf runs didn't do lvm.00:01
hallynDaviey: ikonia: but my first (much less useful) set of runs implied lvm to be not really faster than raw file ( http://s3hh.wordpress.com/2012/01/07/some-first-performance-tests-of-various-kvm-backing-stores/ )00:02
hallynDaviey: ikonia: can't wait to see ikonia's results - thanks!00:02
hallynstgraber: ok, i think i'm going to push my lxc.  i'm using /usr/share/lxc/hooks/.  shoult if you really feel example-hooks is clearer00:03
stgraberhallyn: I'm fine with lxc/hooks/ we'll probably have to make sure to document it properly though (server guide I guess)00:04
hallynstgraber: d'oh, yeah, the 12.10 server guide updates should probably be in work items00:12
stgraberhallyn: indeed00:13
stgraberhallyn: btw, lxc was moved to -updates today, I'll prepare a branch for the next one, see if we already have enough for another SRU00:14
hallynstgraber: i'm going to hope not :)00:14
* hallyn would like things to calm down a bit in precise-updates00:15
hallynstgraber: also, given how long the lxc api work item is, it really should be broken up.  do you have a concrete plan in your midn of remaining steps?00:15
stgraberhallyn: looking at the current changelog, I have 4 SRU-able changes already, but fairly small, so might while a little while to see if we get more00:16
stgraberhallyn: might upload one at the end of this week or early next week then00:17
hallynok00:17
stgraber(changes I'm looking at are the fstype=fuse.* apparmor change, fixing lxc-list/upstart-job to work with both the Ubuntu and Deian way of doing auto-start, depend on adduser (for postinst script) and fix a dh_apparmor call)00:18
stgraberoh, and fix dpkg to use --add-architecture on >= quantal00:19
stgraberthat last one is issuing a warning on every single dpkg call, so I guess it's quit important to SRU :)00:19
hallynwait.  i thought ubuntu and debian autostart were now the same?00:21
uvirtbotNew bug: #1018228 in mysql-5.5 (main) "package mysql-server-5.5 5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101822803:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #987329 in glance (main) "Glance SQLAlchemy package version needs updating" [Undecided,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98732904:27
tarvidhow do I determine which device is connected to an interface?04:46
uvirtbotNew bug: #1018244 in keystone (main) "When keystone is enabled, the ec2 API returns uuids instead of tenant names" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101824404:46
tarvidntop does not like eth1, I have an onboard nic and a usb network interface04:46
jmarsdentarvid: /sbin/ifconfig -a     # should help?04:50
tarvidthat shows eth1 but when I configure ntop with eth0 eth1 it fails saying invalid interface04:54
jmarsdenMaybe ntop needs the device names /dev/eth0 and /dev/eth1 ?04:55
tarvidjmarsden: thanks turns out to have been a comma separated list04:57
jmarsdentarvid: You're welcome -- at least I put you on the right track :)04:58
tarvidyes you did04:58
tarvidwant to solve #2? my logs are empty after logrotate but service restart rsyslogd starts them04:59
jmarsdentarvid: Sounds like a logrotate configuration issue of some sort, but I'm not really sure what to suggest you look for.05:05
tarvidI have seen it before, perhaps a couple of years ago05:06
tarvidmay be a sequence issue05:06
tarvidnow ntop says I must set -M (merging?)05:08
jmarsdenYou could try mv'ing everything in /etc/logrotate.d/ somewhere else, then run logrotate and see if the issue still occurs... then you can move the individual config files back in until the issue happens, and so (hopefully) figure out which of them is causing the problem.05:08
tarvida manual service rsyslogd restart always works05:09
matt_keysHaving some issues with the kernel talking to my sata controller. See : http://pastebin.com/vNWS99Vt . Anybody have any suggestions on what to try?05:13
tarvidhave you had a peek at gsmartctl?05:21
tarvidjmarsden: had to patch /etc/init.d/ntop to include -M option to get eth1 stats05:25
jmarsdentarvid: Seems odd, but OK... it's been a while since I used ntop, and I think when I did it was on machines with only eth005:27
tarvidsomething about netflow plugin05:27
tarvidI've got a convoluted fiber and wireless network behind eth1 that I would like to know more about05:28
tarvideventually identify clients by mac address of CPE which might be two or three hops inside05:30
tarvidthey typically have one or more computers connected to a wireless router connected to a radio or a fiber termination which I know nothing about05:31
tarvidthe radio mac is static (until I change them out) everything else could change05:31
tarvidjmarsden: matt_keys question prompts one more - is gsmartctl the best disk subsystem diagnostic tool?05:32
jmarsdentarvid: This is #ubuntu-server, so I use smartctl rather than the GUI interface :)  But yes I think for 'normal' disk drives at least, smartctl from the smartmontools package works fine.05:35
tarvidgood point, I use the cli version on the headless servers, I questioned a few kernel errors until I read the SMART error reports, didn't want to believe both hard drives in RAID1 were bad05:37
matt_keystarvid : i'll try out smartctl, bios is set to ehci on these disks and it's got two controllers; a marvell and intel. when disks are on marvell they don't show up at all, had to move them all to intel06:24
uvirtbotNew bug: #1018265 in openvswitch (universe) "openvswitch-datapath-dkms 1.4.2+git20120612-2: openvswitch kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101826506:56
tarvidGood luck matt_keys and thanks jmarsden. A good night for me. Wishing you all well.06:59
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sorenDaviey, rbasak: uvirtbot announces bugs as new the first time it hears about them. Under normal circumstances this is when the bug is first reported. At times, it can be delayed if a bug is wrongfully reported against a package uvirtbot doesn't care about and then gets reassigned.07:16
sorenDaviey, rbasak: Other times still, it could be a bit of a backlog from the days when the uvirtbot server was off-line for long enough that lists.ubuntu.com stopped sending it e-mails on the ubuntu-server-bugs list. In those cases, the initial bug report never reached uvirtbot and so now it announces them when it gets  anew e-mail about it, i.e. when someone changes its status, comments on it, etc.07:18
sorenDaviey, rbasak: Uh, yeah, the core issue is that it's all e-mail driven. It's subscribed to packages' bugs, gets e-mail and polls the mailbox over imap. Cool, huh?07:19
sorenOne of these days, I'll get off my lazy behind and get it to talk to the LP API. Not today.07:20
koolhead11hi all07:26
Davieysoren: slacker :)07:46
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rbasaksoren: what kind of link does the server have?07:52
koolhead11Daviey: hello sir07:57
Davieykoolhead11: hey!08:07
Davieyrbasak: probably ethernet :)08:07
koolhead11Daviey: what about my early morning wish, i pinged you!! :)08:07
* Daviey look back08:10
Davieykoolhead11: < koolhead11> Daviey: hello sir .. i said hello back!08:11
* koolhead11 needs a mentor08:12
Davieykoolhead11: roaksoax and ivoks mostly drove clustering, but have since been working on other things.08:12
Davieyi think roaksoax is probably still the closest to the issue, but i don't believe it's getting as much attention as it was.08:13
koolhead11ooh okey. :(08:13
Davieysmb: i386 kernel seems to be rocking!08:14
smbDaviey, Glad to hear. :) Though I was somewhat sure it would at least perform better than the previous one as I had it up on an instance. ;)08:15
Davieysmb: heh08:16
koolhead11Daviey: for the Folsom i was thinking to integrate a chapter on HA on the beginners guide. I saw the bluprint so i felt if some magic can happen :D08:16
Davieykoolhead11: that sounds like a great idea.08:16
Davieykoolhead11: roaksoax will be around a little later, he is undoubtedly the best person to speak to.08:17
koolhead11Daviey: awesome will ping him and plan ahead08:17
Davieysuper08:17
koolhead11we need quantim/cinder and HA additnitonal component if i can make it08:18
koolhead11*quantum08:18
lynxmanmorning o/08:30
uvirtbotNew bug: #1018285 in apache2 (main) "Redirects incorrectly set Location header in response when Host header is set in request" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101828508:31
koolhead11hi lynxman08:38
lynxmankoolhead11: ello o/08:41
uvirtbotNew bug: #992578 in vsftpd (main) "vsftpd error 530 after upgrade from oneiric to precise" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99257808:42
uvirtbotNew bug: #1018290 in ceph (main) "[MIR] ceph" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101829008:46
* koolhead11 is having bad day with java09:35
koolhead11die oracle09:35
koolhead11phewwwwwww09:35
glancesounds more like a regular day with java =)09:36
mattiHaha09:38
eagles0513875_!raid09:43
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto09:43
eagles0513875_!openstack09:45
koolhead11eagles0513875_: we need to add more brain to the stupid bot09:46
eagles0513875_koolhead11: ya im noticing09:46
koolhead11glance: matti :(09:46
eagles0513875_has anyone in here used ubuntu-vm-builder package?09:46
eagles0513875_and or openstack?09:46
koolhead11eagles0513875_: what about it09:47
eagles0513875_does the ubuntu-vm-builder need a DE to use it?09:47
koolhead11eagles0513875_: http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/starter/ this might help09:47
eagles0513875_koolhead11: thing is its already in the repos of 12.0409:47
koolhead11eagles0513875_: no idea Ubuntu Devs would be right folks09:48
ikoniait's a gui based system09:48
eagles0513875_ok09:48
ikoniabut there is a command line interaction09:48
eagles0513875_i think i might given openstack a shot09:49
eagles0513875_just not sure out of the decent list of packages what needs to be installed09:49
ikoniayou install the package and it will pull in the dependencies for you09:49
eagles0513875_i did an apt-cache search open | grep stack and it pulled a fair number of packages all for openstack09:50
ikoniaok...?09:51
eagles0513875_except mfor two packages09:51
ikoniahave you read any of the documentation on this before rushing in ?09:52
eagles0513875_i have the documentation up and reading through it but it seems like there is no mention of quantum at least not what I have read so far or see in the contents of the documentation09:54
ikoniaeagles0513875_: what are you actually trying to install ?09:54
eagles0513875_openstack09:54
ikoniaso why are you referencing quantum ?09:54
eagles0513875_from 12.04 repositories09:54
eagles0513875_its in the repositories09:54
eagles0513875_ikonia: do apt-cache search Openstack and youll see quantum listed09:55
eagles0513875_oops09:55
ikoniaeagles0513875_: right ? but why are you looking at that ?09:55
eagles0513875_i stand corrected09:55
eagles0513875_my first search was an incomplete one09:55
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jamespageDaviey: I have a work item to send a call for testing for A2 images - are we in a good position todo that now?10:01
uvirtbotNew bug: #1018315 in mod-wsgi (main) "Compiled for Python/2.7.2+, Runtime using Python/2.7.3." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101831510:06
Davieyjamespage: Today we are..10:09
Davieyjamespage: I'm sending a general one out soonly.10:10
Davieybut if you want to specifically rally server, that is awesome.10:10
jamespageDaviey, ack - will do10:10
* jamespage goes to steal smosers copy from last time10:10
Davieyjamespage: smoser tried to rally for A1.. SO if you do the same for A2, that is great... Please share with balloons (Community/QA) what you have done.10:11
DavieyThanks.10:11
jamespageDaviey, will do10:11
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jamespageDaviey, done - cc'ed balloons10:22
uvirtbotNew bug: #1003656 in bridge-utils (main) "when adding a bond the bridge fails to acquire a dhcp address" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100365610:26
koopa58Hi all, does anyone know how I can find out more on a 404 entry in logwatch httpd section? I can't find the log file it was taken from11:19
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koopa58is it me, or is it quiet in here :)11:40
IdleOnekoopa58: it is always you :)11:50
koopa58haha :P11:51
IdleOneis quiet though. someone will be along sooner or later11:51
koopa58okay, I'll wait a while :)11:52
smoseryippee! green: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/ec2%20AMI%20Testing/view/Overview/job/quantal-server-ec2-daily/12:21
smoserthank you smb ^12:21
smbsmoser, Welcome. :) We all like green. D12:22
smoserjamespage, can you go ahead and start a quantal-server-ec2 run of 20120627 ?12:22
smoseror, if you'd rather, you can teach me if that is possible12:23
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jamespagesmoser, sure12:29
Davieyjamespage / smoser: Are all ec2 builds not auto tested now?12:36
jamespageDaviey, they all get a smoke test12:36
jamespagebut not the full service12:36
Davieyahh12:36
Davieyjamespage: Give me a full service please!12:36
jamespageDaviey, would do if I could get to jenkins...12:36
zulDaviey: hehe...you said full service12:45
koopa58Hi all, is it possible to get more info from logwatch? I need IP and user agent from the httpd section (404 errors and such). Currently it only shows the request-uri13:01
RoyKkoopa58: not sure, but logwatch is written in perl, so it shouldn't be very hard to add that functionality if wanted :)13:12
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SpamapSkoopa58: you could go look through the logs directly too :)13:22
eagles0513875_hey guys my raid array is degraded how do I go about fixing the situation? all i did during reinstall was use the same raid setup as previous install13:24
eagles0513875_hey SpamapS  :D13:25
RoyKeagles0513875_: pastebin content of /proc/mdstat, please13:26
eagles0513875_atm rebooted it and now its hanging for some odd reason13:26
eagles0513875_will try a regular kernel instead of the xen kernel13:26
RoyK!kvm13:27
ubottukvm is the preferred virtualization approach in Ubuntu. For more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM13:27
RoyK;)13:27
eagles0513875_whats so great about kvm13:27
eagles0513875_actually it came up13:27
RoyKkvm works well, but xen may be faster in some circumstances13:27
eagles0513875_i have had great experiences with xen havent worked much with kvm13:28
eagles0513875_kvm is kernel based virtualization right13:28
eagles0513875_RoyK: what would you like to know from cat /proc/mdstat13:28
eagles0513875_wait a min lol13:28
RoyKbut I like kvm because of its simplicity - it doesn't annex the entire computer like xen does ;)13:29
eagles0513875_RoyK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1062537/13:30
eagles0513875_forgot i had ssh on the server which is sitting right next to me lol13:30
RoyKso I guess sdb is dead?13:30
RoyKdoes it show up under /proc/partitions?13:30
eagles0513875_RoyK: on this install they are sda13:31
eagles0513875_actually sdb does show up ya13:31
RoyKyeah, but that shows a mirror with one side gone13:31
RoyKor two mirrors13:31
eagles0513875_let me paste ya proc partitions13:31
eagles0513875_http://paste.ubuntu.com/1062540/ RoyK13:32
RoyKeagles0513875_: was the missing side of those mirrors on sdb?13:33
RoyKif so, something is badly messed up there, since sdb doesn't list any partitions13:33
eagles0513875_RoyK: nothign was missing prior to my reinstall13:33
eagles0513875_when reinstalling it asked me if i wanted to use the same raided partition layout on the installer and i told it to do so13:34
RoyKwell, there are no partitions on sdb13:34
eagles0513875_can delete the raid setup and recreate it from scratch?13:34
RoyKno need13:34
eagles0513875_how can this be fixed?13:34
RoyKyou can create partitions on sdb of equal size of those on sda and mdadm --add the partitions to those degraded mirrors13:35
eagles0513875_do you have a good document I could follow?13:35
RoyKeagles0513875_: just use fdisk to create those partitions13:36
eagles0513875_ok13:36
RoyKfirst look at sda to find the right size, then run it with sdb to create those13:37
patdk-wkif your really lazy, dd the first sector :)13:37
RoyKhehe13:37
eagles0513875_lol13:37
patdk-wkafter your all done, make sure you redo grub install13:37
RoyKbbl13:38
eagles0513875_ok13:38
eagles0513875_think ill stick with fdisk13:38
Jeeves_http://www.change.org/petitions/canonical-ltd-make-all-ubuntu-related-services-reachable-over-ipv614:04
koopa58@SpamapS Sorry was away for a while.. I have tried, but I can't find the entries that logwatch reports :)14:27
koopa58it's not in the site's error.log :S14:41
RoyKeagles0513875_: did it sort out?14:55
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1017978 in libfcgi (main) "[MIR] libfcgi, ceph (radosgw)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101797815:01
stgrabersmw: hey there15:05
stgraberoops, wrong sm* sorry15:05
stgrabersmb: hey there :)15:05
smbstgraber, Hi15:06
stgrabersmb: I subscribed you to bug 930962 as it mentioned xen/virtio15:06
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 930962 in isc-dhcp "dhcp3-server reports many bad udp checksums to syslog using virtio NIC" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93096215:06
smbstgraber, Yep, noticed that. I think I have been there before but that feels long time ago15:06
smbstgraber, I might get back after todays attempted iso testing15:07
stgrabersmb: sure. The bug has been around for a few years, so we can wait a bit longer ;)15:07
smbstgraber, :-P Yeah, can only get more-important... ;)15:08
smoserDaviey, jamespage utlemming. i will update the iso tracker results for the 20120627 run of cloud-images.15:33
smoseri have to go to lunch now, but will do so when i get back.15:33
jamespagesmoser, marvellous!15:33
smoserhad some issues with jibel's script immediately, though15:33
smoserhttps://code.launchpad.net/~jibel/+junk/qatracker15:33
jibelsmoser, there was a change in the API, I just pushed rev5 that shoudl fix it15:34
smoserjibel, after fixing one global use of 'INSTANCE' (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1062710/)15:34
jibelsmoser, fixed too15:35
smoserjibel, ok. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1062711/15:35
smoserhtats what i get15:35
smoserif that isn't fixed, then i'll figure it out or bother you.15:35
smoserthanks15:35
smoserjibel, ok. so i still get the same error with revno 515:37
smoserpossibly bad usage15:37
smoserbut i'll look later. have to run.15:37
jibelsmoser, ./tracker_update_result -ad -u USERNAME -p APIKEY "Quantal Alpha 2" "Ubuntu Server EC2 EBS (Europe) amd64" "EC2 User Data" ami-a55f5bd1 Passed15:39
jibeldon't forget the double-quotes15:39
hallynstgraber: bug 1003656 - interesting, bad parsing of interfaces depending on indentation15:40
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1003656 in bridge-utils "bond entries in /etc/network/interfaces fail without indent (when adding a bond the bridge fails to acquire a dhcp address)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100365615:40
stgraberhallyn: I'll have a look later today. I'm going through all the network stack packages this week, bridge-utils is on the list for this afternoon :)15:43
hallynstgraber: so then bug 231060 (sru of libvirt's /ec/dnsmasq.d file) is of interest to you this week?  :)15:45
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 231060 in dnsmasq "packages dnsmasq and libvirt-bin conflict with each other" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23106015:45
hallynthe last comment in there makes me wonder if i s hould just pull that bit up to get the rest of the changes sru'd for now15:45
stgraberhallyn: dnsmasq isn't in that list (it's a universe package) :)15:46
hallynbut libvirt is15:46
hallynall right, i had to try :)15:47
stgraberhallyn: hmm, did you see my discussion with RAOF wrt that change?15:47
stgraberhallyn: because IIRC we then agreed that the change was OK for SRU15:48
hallynstgraber: ok, pinging him, thx15:49
hallynotherwise long as it's fixed in q i'm fine dropping that bit from sru, i guess15:50
stgraberhallyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1062735/15:50
hallynstgraber: thanks15:52
stgraberhallyn: we have the exact same fix in lxc and nobody complained. I can agree with the policy problem of removing the file on remove (instead of purge) but that's required to ensure dnsmasq's behaviour gets back to normal on removal.15:53
stgraberhallyn: but I'd certainly be fine adding a big warning in that file though (but if we do that, we should also include that warning in the next lxc SRU for consistency)15:54
hallynstgraber: hm15:56
hallynstgraber: add a warning saying "if you edit this, changes will be lost when libvirt is removed" ?15:56
hallynstgraber: but if that file remains on remove, and is only removed on purge, nothing breaks, right?15:57
hallynjust if some joker then creates his own virbr0, it will continue to not be served by dnsmasq15:58
stgraberhallyn: nothing breaks but dnsmasq remains in bind-interfaces mode15:58
hallynah15:58
hallynstgraber: all right, so, warning in dnsmasq.d/libvirt file saying "changes made to this file will be lost when libvirt package is removed" ?16:01
hallynor ignore and resubmit as was?16:02
stgraberhallyn: I think the comment is a good idea in all cases16:03
hallynok thx16:05
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1018364 in mysql-5.5 (main) "Unable to link against libmysqlclient" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101836416:11
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uvirtbotNew bug: #990751 in openldap (main) "package slapd 2.4.28-1.1ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99075116:52
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1018503 in openldap (main) "slapd fails to install if /etc/ldap/slapd.conf is already there" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101850317:11
zulDaviey: ping17:20
souliaqcan I give "restart" permission for "non-sudoer" user?17:21
greppysouliaq: you could give it to just that one user using sudo.  it's in the man page.17:25
zuladam_g: ping17:34
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adam_gzul: pong17:35
zuladam_g: im just upload a branch to openstack-ubuntu-testing for cinderclient should i call it master?17:36
adam_gzul: oh. hmm. im not sure how to name the 'master' branch. how about just openstack-ubuntu-testing/python-cinderclient/folsom, which will then merge into .../{precise, quantal}-folsom-proposed17:39
zuladam_g: sure17:40
Davieyzul: hey17:50
zulDaviey: so openstack clients version numbers are changes so im proposing we have something like 2012.2~<upstream version>17:51
Davieyoh ffs17:56
Davieyzul: not seen the mail yet, what is it changing to?17:56
zulDaviey: depends on the client17:56
zuli think17:56
Davieyuh17:56
Davieyzul: where did you hear this?17:57
zuladam_g17:57
Davieyadam_g: can you expand?17:57
zulDaviey: https://github.com/openstack/python-glanceclient/commit/03efd1689616ada606cb4cd7c0b51d2e1935ecfa17:58
adam_gDaviey: only that client (glanceclient, novaclient) builds started failing last night because there was a versioning change upstream. theres been a discussion on the list about this, but i didnt know anything was decided17:58
zulDaviey/adam_g: novaclient is 2.6.1.4 :)17:59
adam_gyea..18:00
Davieyadam_g: I haven't followed the discussion, but did it seem reasonable to move away from the current convention ?18:01
Davieyttx: Are you tracking this?18:01
Davieyadam_g: what was the Subject?18:07
DavieyI haven't read about this.18:07
adam_gDaviey: https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg13307.html18:07
adam_gDaviey: it seems reasonable given the client tools are (in theory) independent of the rest of the release.18:07
Davieyadam_g: well, the same could be said for mysql.. but i don't believe they ship independent versions18:08
adam_gunless im overlooking something, fooclient_2012.2-$version seems like a decent way of keeping the clients pegged to a release, at least on our end. that is,18:08
adam_gwe'll at least have some sense of what our targetted (supported?) client version is for a given release18:09
Davieywell, we are now introducing arbitrary version numbering, if they insist on this seemingly silly change.18:09
DavieyIe, we will be doing what they should be doing :)18:10
adam_gDaviey: arbitrary in what sense?18:10
adam_gi dont have a strong opinion either way, im just trying to avoid what i assume to be a huge headache (superceding a python-glanceclient_2012.2 version with 0.1.0.4)18:11
Davieyadam_g: I agree with you, but my limited knowledge on the reasoning for this change suggests that *clients might want to move to an independent release schedule ?18:12
adam_gDaviey: yeah, i suppose. AFAICS, for released versions of Ubuntu it doesn't really make a difference. you get the client version that made it into the release, presumably tested well against the rest of the openstack release we're shipping.18:18
DavieyIt very much seems that i am in the markmc camp18:18
kyle__I'm trying to install and run ubuntu-orchestra on a server that through various dist-upgrades now thinks it's a desktop (ltsp is what caused it I think).18:27
kyle__Anyway, how does one go about starting orchestra?  I have a web server running, but don't see any orchestra component..18:28
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kyle__Thanks18:42
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kyle__Anyone here familiar with ubuntu orchestra?  What did you have to install/do to get it working?  It appears the 'just apt-get install orchestra -y' that the tutorials are saying doesn't install everything in 12.0419:56
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Davieykyle__: Orchestra is pretty much deprecated in 12.0419:58
* Daviey makes a note to remove the packaes from 13.1019:58
Davieyerr, 12.1019:58
kyle__Daviey: Oooh.  Sooo, what's the official ubuntu mechenism for deployment en-masse then?19:58
Davieykyle__: i see what you did there... MAAS it is called20:00
Davieyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS20:01
kyle__OK, I thought that was still in development or beta or somefin.20:01
kyle__Humm20:05
kyle__Know if MAAS plays well with being on a server that thinks it's a desktop?20:05
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jpdskyle__: It's all 1s and 0s at the end of the day.20:07
* kyle__ nods20:08
kyle__jpds: Some packages are more fraigle and finicky than others.  Especially when they're special purpose, new, or not installed often.20:10
Davieykyle__: The only issue i have come across is tftpd not working without a restart on Desktop20:11
kyle__OK.20:11
kyle__Easy enough.  Basically I'm going to set it up to install a batch of hadoop nodes, see if I like it.  And if I do, build it on a proper system for the larger cluster.20:11
kyle__This is really really temporary.20:11
Davieykyle__: How many nodes?20:12
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kyle__Daviey: Only 20.20:15
kyle__I figure it will give me a good flavor for if I want to use it for deployment.  Of course I was origonally thinking that of orchestra...20:15
Davieykyle__: well, using MAAS and juju to deploy hadoop would work really well20:24
Davieyit's designed specifically for this use case :)20:24
kyle__:) sweet.20:28
* kyle__ is restorting to apt-get purge.... this system is screwed up something fierce20:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #1018579 in dovecot (main) "dovecot panic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101857920:41
alketHi , can I install ubuntu desktop but change it to server by removing GUI ?20:42
kyle__alket: I don't really thing you can in any reasonable way, but possible, probably... It would be easier to install minimal server and add a desktop to it than the other way around.20:45
Davieykyle__: if the system is in that bad a state, i'd be tempted to re-install.20:55
kyle__Daviey: I am, but it's currently my DHCP server... may still be worth it.20:56
kyle__Especially since it appears MAAS wants to run it's own dhcp to be happy.20:56
Davieykyle__: no, running it's own dhcp is optional.20:57
kyle__Daviey: Yea, but there are no example configs for that, nor do they explain really what the settings should be.20:58
kyle__At least not in the pages I found.20:58
Davieykyle__: documentation is being improved, but really, if you already have dhcp/dns on a serpate machine.. and each node has a static hostname already set.. then maas will just slot in21:00
Davieykyle__: note, the on-stage demo's have all been based on a SOHO router.21:00
kyle__Besides, all the hosts I'm running now have mac based reservations, I can use the pool addresses for MAAS, comment out the reservation in isc-dhcp, and then all should be happy.21:00
kyle__and hit my nodes with wol packets.....21:08
kyle__Humm.  How long after netbooting would you expect it to take for a node to be added?21:16
kyle__oooh.  Nevermind I see what's taking so long: it's installing ubuntu on each node before registering it.21:20
Davieykyle__: no, it's abusing the installer to do initial enlistment21:24
Davieydoesn't touch the disk21:25
Davieywhen i say abuse, that is a little extreme.. it's using the installer environment as an execution enviroment21:25
kyle__Humm.21:25
kyle__Daviey:  At what stage does maas let you configiure kickstart or other options for specifying what you want on a node?21:26
Davieykyle__: use juju..21:31
gelachshello dears, I have a problem installing ubuntu server on HP Prolian DL360p G8, the installed doesn't detect the disk drive and it asks for driver in a list. any help?21:32
Davieykyle__: accept the node in the maas ui, it will then commission, briefly.. the grab the api key from the maas ui, and configure juju.. then juju bootstrap, then juju deploy hadoop21:33
Davieykyle__: brief description there21:33
kyle__Hum.  OK.21:34
Davieyjuju bootstrap ; juju deploy hadoop hadoop-master ; juju deploy -n17 hadoop hadoop-slavecluster ; juju add-relation hadoop-master:namenode hadoop-slavecluster:datanode ; juju add-relation hadoop-master:jobtracker hadoop-slavecluster:tasktracker ; you now have an 18 node hadoop cluster21:35
Davieykyle__:21:35
kyle__Neat.21:36
kyle__Does MAAS allow for any specific configurations, or does it only do one stock base OS config on all systems?21:36
Davieykyle__: Generally, it does stock.. it can be customised slightly, but not recommended21:37
Davieykyle__: the idea is to get the os on there as quickly as possible, and customise on first boot21:37
* kyle__ thinks his setup has some cruft, as at least one nodes was in a fully fledged install screen, wanting me to provide a username.21:37
Davieykyle__: it makes use of cloud-init21:37
kyle__Ah.21:37
DavieyIf you are being asked for a username, something has gone wrong21:38
kyle__Kindof what I thought.21:38
DavieyAnyway, i need to dash.. MAAS specific support can be had in #maas btw21:38
Davieykyle__: hope it works out well.21:38
kyle__Awesome.  Thanks so much!21:38
gelachsplease, do you see this message, I think I can't send to freenode. please if some one see this message tell me21:48
daffanyone know what the right way of configuring snmpd on ubuntu 12.04 is? the default configuration seems completely broken, making snmpd complain loudly about unknown OIDs. the symptoms are exactly the same as described in this 1.5 year old debian bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=60576922:36
uvirtbotDebian bug 605769 in snmpd "unknown monitor OID" [Normal,Open]22:36
mdeslaurdaff: you need to install the snmp-mibs-downloader package, and then download the mibs, and then comment out the "#export MIBS=" line in /etc/default/snmpd23:12
mdeslaurdaff: I think you have to comment out other mibs lines in the config files too23:13
mdeslaurdaff: possibly other insanity too23:13
daffmdeslaur: thanks for the idea, but I already did that. still getting "net-snmp: 33 error(s) in config file(s)"23:13
daffinsanity is what I am close to23:13
mdeslaurdaff: wait one sec, let me try23:14
daffthat would be great, thanks23:14
kieppie1hi everybody23:17
kieppie1I'm thinking of scratching my old VM host & looking towards the new MaaS infrastructure. Is anyone online able/willing to talk a bit of shop with me, please?23:18
mdeslaurdaff: so, 1- apt-get install snmp-mibs-downloader, 2- comment out "export MIBS=" line in /etc/default/snmpd, 3- comment out "mibs :" in /etc/snmp/snmp.conf, 4- /etc/init.d/snmpd restart23:20
patdk-lapmaas looks interesting23:20
kieppie1yea - it kinda encapsulates where I think I should be heading23:21
kieppie1I've built & run my old 10.04 LTS server with KVM & libvirt (mostly by hand), but after some reading (many threads leading me to the Canyon's Edge posts by kirkland ), I think I should be shifting direction - OpenStack on to op 12.04, KVM, libvirt with Juju, possibly Orgestra, Nagios, PXE, etc - all tighly integrated23:24
patdk-lapif I wasn't using esxi, I likely would go smartos23:24
kieppie1smartos looks interresting...23:27
daffmdeslaur: thanks, 3 was missing. but there are still hundres of lines worth of "/etc/snmp/snmpd.conf: line 101: Warning: Unknown token: disk." and "/var/lib/snmp/snmpd.conf: line 62: Warning: Unknown token: ifXTable."23:27
daffkieppie1: you could also look closer at puppet and foreman (theforeman.org)23:27
kieppie1yea - puppet forms a part of the new paradigm, as per kirkland's posts.23:29
kieppie1cthanks for the foreman lead - more to take into consideration23:31
kieppie1I think my setup may vary slightly though. I'll probably rely on my FreeNAS as the storage pool over iSCSI, and use my existing trusty pfSense as firewall. I'm not all that familiar with LDAP just yet, but I may need to dig into it in more detail to help manage resources23:33
mdeslaurdaff: hrm, are you sure those aren't old lines? I just did the steps on a fresh precise VM, and I didn't get any errors23:38
daffmdeslaur: yeah, there must be something cached or old lying around23:41
daffmdeslaur: any ideas where I could look for further clues? I now have /etc/default/snmpd and /etc/snmp/*.conf identical to my home system, but I still get "net-snmp: 33 error(s) in config file(s)"23:51
mdeslaurdaff: maybe one or more of the mibs files failed to download automatically when you installed snmp-mibs-downloader?23:52
mdeslaurdaff: try "sudo download-mibs"23:52
mdeslaurdaff: if that doesn,t solve it, I'm not quite sure what else you can try23:53
daffmdeslaur: did that repeatedly, the only thing that looks interesting is this:23:53
daffNOTE: PW-STD-MIB: ignored.23:53
daffgzip: /tmp/tmp.j0Vo8SsVkK/ianaiprouteprotocol-mib: unknown suffix -- ignored23:53
daffgzip: /tmp/tmp.j0Vo8SsVkK/ianamalloc-mib: unknown suffix -- ignored23:53
daffbut I get that on all systems23:53
mdeslauryeah, probably not relevant23:54
mdeslaurdaff: sorry...I can't think of anything else to try for no23:54
mdeslaurnow23:54
daffwhat I find strange is also the MIB search path. syslog says "MIB search path: /usr/share/snmp/mibs"23:54
daffbut that directory doesn't exist, instead, shouldn't it be /usr/share/mibs?23:55
mdeslaurmaybe compare those directories with your other system?23:55
daffand in addition to the errors also seen in the debian bug report, I get lots of these:  "Cannot find module (SNMPv2-SMI): At line 0 in (none)"23:56
daffcan't make heads or tails of this23:56
daffthe systems seem identical23:56
daffbut obviously they aren't23:56
Grenadeubuntu 12.04 desktop with xen23:58
Grenadehow to connect via ssh23:58
Grenadeand configure xen23:58
Grenadeanyone ?23:59

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