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jibel | jamespage, ping | 08:46 |
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jamespage | jibel: pong | 08:46 |
jibel | jamespage, good morning | 08:46 |
jamespage | ah - thresholds! | 08:46 |
jibel | jamespage, yep :) | 08:46 |
jamespage | sorry | 08:46 |
jamespage | forgot to reply | 08:46 |
jibel | np | 08:47 |
jibel | balloons, I get the scrollbars with vmware too | 08:47 |
jamespage | jibel: I'd go for current figures + 5% | 08:47 |
jamespage | we will know when it grows then | 08:47 |
gema | jamespage: what are the current numbers based on? | 08:48 |
jibel | jamespage, ok, I'll update the check | 08:48 |
gema | jamespage: I am trying to figure out if those tests are worth keeping or why they were added | 08:48 |
jamespage | gema, http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServerMinimalVirtualInstall | 08:49 |
gema | jamespage: I know, I was looking at them yesterday, the source code | 08:49 |
jamespage | the original target was a < 500 MB install | 08:49 |
gema | looks quite random | 08:49 |
gema | yeah, but why? | 08:49 |
jamespage | the test case generally is worth keeping as it keeps an eye on the kernel size | 08:49 |
jamespage | gema, why predates mw | 08:50 |
gema | it measures the size of the whole install | 08:50 |
jamespage | me | 08:50 |
jamespage | gema, the purpose on the minimal virtual install is to have as small an install as possible for virtualized systems | 08:50 |
gema | ahh, hold on, I wasn't talking about that one x) | 08:50 |
gema | was talking about the installsize one | 08:51 |
gema | jamespage: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-iso-testing-dev/ubuntu-server-iso-testing/trunk/view/head:/templates/test_cases/minimal-virtual/test | 08:51 |
jamespage | gema, so am I | 08:52 |
gema | jamespage: self.assertTrue( used < 590000, "Used: %s" % (used)) | 08:52 |
gema | that tests the size of the whole install | 08:52 |
jamespage | gema, this is the test for quantal - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-iso-testing-dev/+junk/server-tests-quantal/view/head:/test_cases/minimal-virtual/test | 08:53 |
jamespage | gema, yeah - spot on | 08:53 |
gema | jamespage: ok, my next question then would be, is that a smoke test or a regression test? | 08:54 |
gema | jamespage: that affects 0 the usability of the system | 08:55 |
gema | jamespage: nor we are going to fix it in a matter of hours | 08:55 |
jamespage | gema, no | 08:56 |
gema | jamespage: ? | 08:56 |
jamespage | gema, no - its not going to be fixed in a matter of hours | 08:56 |
gema | ok, then it is not a smoke test | 08:57 |
gema | it should be run once a week or so | 08:57 |
jamespage | gema, fine | 08:57 |
gema | ok | 08:57 |
jamespage | so long as the test run and we can see the results I'm not worried | 08:57 |
jamespage | :-) | 08:57 |
gema | jamespage: yep, I am trying to classify things the right way, so that we end up with the right tests in the right places | 08:57 |
gema | jamespage: thanks | 08:57 |
jamespage | gema, thats good with me | 08:57 |
jamespage | we just need to ensure people don't just look at smoke testing as a measure of quality | 08:58 |
gema | jamespage: for that we first need to have something else as well :) | 08:58 |
jamespage | gema, agreed | 08:58 |
jamespage | old habits die hard tho | 08:58 |
jamespage | :-) | 08:58 |
gema | yep | 08:58 |
gema | jamespage: it'll take a while, but we'll get there | 08:59 |
jamespage | gema, I guess once all of the tests are in a nice library assembling suites for smoke and regression focus will be much easier | 09:01 |
gema | jamespage: I hope so | 09:01 |
gema | jamespage: the only thing that should be different for smoke testing is the runlist | 09:02 |
gema | we can still have the tests in the same pool | 09:02 |
jamespage | gema, +1 | 09:02 |
jamespage | that was how I was thing about it | 09:02 |
gema | but have two different runlists, or as many as we need | 09:02 |
gema | it may be that for arm we want to run different things | 09:02 |
gema | for instance | 09:02 |
gema | jamespage: but the current tests are going to end up in a legacy pool | 09:03 |
gema | until we have a better home for them | 09:03 |
gema | which will be built on the second step | 09:03 |
jibel | desktop on mac is ok | 10:30 |
jibel | testing alternate on mac | 10:30 |
jibel | wubi's good on amd64 and i386 | 10:39 |
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astraljava | balloons: Apologies, but I cannot attend the meeting. But I'm sure people are present afterwards, too, considering the milestone testing. I'll report directly to you later this evening. | 13:12 |
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phillw1 | balloons: no meeting today? | 14:25 |
jibel | first question is: no ballons today ? | 14:34 |
jibel | *balloons even | 14:34 |
phillw1 | jibel I don't know, just popped on while taking a break from revision. | 14:38 |
balloons | phillw1, jibel ahh | 14:38 |
balloons | too engrossed in testing! | 14:39 |
phillw1 | lol | 14:39 |
jibel | good morning balloons | 14:42 |
balloons | morning jibel :-) | 14:43 |
jibel | stgraber, what is your opinion on bug 1018271 | 14:51 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1018271 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "unexpected prompt for nameserver IP when using DHCP" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1018271 | 14:51 |
jibel | stgraber, not the prompt but the second part of the bug report | 14:51 |
jibel | dhcp setting not preserved upon installation | 14:51 |
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jibel | Daviey, should I go and populate the results for server from automated tests or someone on your team doing ? | 15:07 |
Daviey | jibel: do you have the script? | 15:07 |
jibel | Daviey, yes, not perfect, but kind of. | 15:09 |
Daviey | jibel: If you are happy to, that would be great! | 15:13 |
Daviey | jibel: would you mind committing the script to bzr somewhere.. as i only have what was emailed around. | 15:14 |
jibel | Daviey, https://code.launchpad.net/~jibel/+junk/qatracker | 15:15 |
Daviey | jibel: somewhere, less jibleised? | 15:16 |
jibel | I can probably do that too. | 15:16 |
Daviey | thanks :) | 15:17 |
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stgraber | jibel: did you manage to reproduce this bug? (1018271) | 17:42 |
stgraber | jibel: I'm not aware of any change that would have affected netcfg in quantal | 17:42 |
stgraber | as for the 127.0.0.1 part, it's the expected behaviour on a desktop running network-manager (netcfg probably discarded that dns info as it's on dhcp) | 17:43 |
jibel | stgraber, I tried but I didn't reproduce it. | 18:13 |
jibel | stgraber, I really cannot. The only way I found is to press 'cancel' when during dchp configuration in d-i. Which is not what I'd call an 'unexpected prompt' | 18:24 |
jibel | unless the cat jumped on the keyboard | 18:24 |
jibel | s/when // | 18:25 |
stgraber | right :) | 18:25 |
jibel | s/dchp/dhcp | 18:25 |
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patdk-wk | jeos is just hardly oversized now | 18:44 |
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