[00:16] <jthan> Boulder County is on fire now.  Maybe this is a sign that I shouldn't be in the state.
[00:17] <JonathanD> The whole county?
[00:17] <jthan> Well not the whole county, but.. Previously there were no fires here. Today two sparked up.
[00:20] <jthan> And it literally lightninged (is that a word?) for like.. maybe twenty minutes.
[00:20] <jthan> then the clouds were gone
[00:33] <MutantTurkey> what state...?
[00:34] <jthan> Colorado
[00:34] <MutantTurkey> yeesh
[00:36] <jthan> It's crazy here.
[00:37] <MutantTurkey> pennsylvania - the promise land
[01:12] <InHisName> jthan is having a "hot time in the old town tonight"
[01:41] <jthan> InHisName: Yeah, something like that. I am just worried about my asthma acting up from all the ash.
[01:43] <InHisName> Hmmm, yea, that's a real concern.  Even hiding indoors in Air conditioned building may not be good enough.  I hope you can finish the 6 weeks though if possible.
[01:44] <jthan> Air conditioning.. What a joke! I wish we had AC!
[01:44] <jthan> I'm not worried about the six week mark. I'm worried about tonight!
[01:44] <jthan> You look outside and it's raining ash.
[01:45] <InHisName> I suggest that you don't go outside
[01:47] <jthan> I don't plan on it - but regardless all of the building is opened up.
[01:47] <jthan> It's 100 degrees here in the shade and there is no AC
[01:47] <jthan> so the windows just ramain open all the time
[01:49] <jthan> I am debating trying to find a classroom in an air conditioned building to spend the night in or something.
[01:49] <jthan> Even if it's a bad nights sleep, its better than waking up dying :-p
[01:50] <InHisName> good point, seek out that building and get there
[03:25] <waltman> JonathanD: it's also on sunday
[04:24] <jedijf> Joe_CoT: how was venturef0rth, and what day did you go?
[04:32] <Joe_CoT> jedijf, ventureforth was good, it was for the global reddit meetup on Saturday
[04:32] <Joe_CoT> one of the redditors is friends with a ventureforth guy so we got the space
[04:32] <jedijf> Joe_CoT: where did you park? was there any lots open on saturday?
[04:33] <Joe_CoT> there was paid parking on the street, we were told we could just park in the reserved spots
[04:33] <jedijf> did you notice any lots open? I know the street parking - just gathering info for FOSSCON at venturef0rth
[04:49] <Joe_CoT> ah, no idea sorry
[04:49] <Joe_CoT> very minimal street parking, and 2 hour limit
[04:49] <Joe_CoT> there is decent parking a couple blocks away
[09:26] <JonathanD> Morning.
[09:27] <JonathanD> waltman: I have stuff on Sunday too.
[09:27] <JonathanD> I'm moving an office sunday.
[09:35] <rmg51> Morning
[11:27] <InHisName> Morning,  hmmm, Randy must be enroute to work..
[12:22] <SamuraiAlba> Good bacon to all!
[12:22] <SamuraiAlba> Ex GF needs her spare room wired for FIOS TV/Ethernet :)
[12:22] <SamuraiAlba> Promised to pay me
[12:22] <SamuraiAlba> Turned down cash :(
[12:23] <SamuraiAlba> I not mean :)
[12:23] <SamuraiAlba> Anyone need servers?
[12:24]  * JonathanD is getting his new one this week.
[12:24] <SamuraiAlba> whatcha gettin?
[12:25] <JonathanD> HP DL360
[12:25] <JonathanD> g4p
[12:26] <SamuraiAlba> nice
[12:26] <SamuraiAlba> I had a 380 G5 a few months ago
[12:53] <InHisName> SamuraiAlba: over on deals woot.com is a shirt --->BACON, the meat candy
[12:54] <InHisName> SamuraiAlba: you got more servers to get rid of ?
[13:11] <SamuraiAlba> I may have more to get rid of
[13:20] <waltman> JonathanD: bummer
[13:20] <waltman> Morning.
[13:20] <waltman> (sleeping in)++
[13:26] <MutantTurkey> void main() { int i=0; while(1) { printf("wake up sleepy head! you are %d minutes late"); sleep(60); i++; }
[13:28] <waltman> I woke up 3 hours later than the last 2 days :)
[13:29] <MutantTurkey> waltman: now you're done your PhD and you've spiraled into nothingness
[13:29] <waltman> True, but this is mostly because I had jury duty Monday and Tuesday and had to be in the federal court house at 6th and Market by 8:30 am.
[13:30] <MutantTurkey> ah
[13:30] <MutantTurkey> yeah that stinks
[13:30] <waltman> I was catching the 7:21 train to give myself enough time to hit Starbucks and get through the security line.
[13:30] <MutantTurkey> when you get to jury duty all you need to do is not get selected
[13:31] <MutantTurkey> "yes i am a catholic nazi skin-head confederate"
[13:32] <waltman> Why does everyone assume that I don't want to get picked for a jury?
[13:34] <JonathanD> I wouldn't mind being on a Jury.
[13:34] <JonathanD> Back when I was hourly, etc, I dreaded the idea.
[13:34] <JonathanD> Jury duty was food off our table.
[13:35] <waltman> http://articles.philly.com/2012-06-26/business/32425564_1_philadelphia-man-health-care-fraud-medical-provider-number # This is the case I almost ended up on yesterday. He decided to plead guilty during an extended lunch break.
[13:35] <JonathanD> They bribed him with food.
[13:35] <waltman> JonathanD: Understandable, but since I'm currently in between jobs, this was food *on* my table!
[13:36] <JonathanD> Right :p
[13:36] <JonathanD> $9 a day, right? :p
[13:36] <MutantTurkey> how do they even rationalize that?
[13:36] <MutantTurkey> might as well not pay
[13:36] <waltman> And the federal courts pay a lot better than the state courts. It's $40/day + 55.5 cents/mile in transportation costs.
[13:36] <JonathanD> oh
[13:36] <JonathanD> well
[13:36] <JonathanD> thats less horrible
[13:36] <MutantTurkey> they should have to pay you equivilent to what your income is
[13:36] <JonathanD> But shouldn't it at least meet minimum wage?
[13:36] <MutantTurkey> or minimum wage
[13:37] <waltman> It goes up to $50/day if it goes more than 10 days.
[13:37] <MutantTurkey> still slave labor
[13:37] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: at the very least. My logic would be people at minimum wage NEED it.
[13:37] <MutantTurkey> you can just call out or skip
[13:37] <JonathanD> People above it are more likely to be reimbursed.
[13:37] <waltman> they also cover hotels for people who need to travel a long distance.
[13:37] <JonathanD> and less-harmed by the loss of wage if not.
[13:38] <waltman> I guess maybe low pay encourages juries to come to decisions quickly?
[13:38] <JonathanD> perhaps.
[13:38] <MutantTurkey> which is also bs
[13:38] <JonathanD> waltman: it also encourages low-income folks to beg off being on Jury.
[13:38] <JonathanD> At which point, it's no longer a jury of peers, but a jury of peers who can afford to not go to work.
[13:39] <waltman> I've always had jobs where I was reimbursed, and I've always found jury duty to be a welcome break from the work routine.
[13:40] <waltman> my judge yesterday offered to personally call up any boss who was giving one of his jurors a hard time about missing work.
[13:40] <JonathanD> This is good.
[13:40] <JonathanD> waltman: the $9 a day though, is a complete joke :)
[13:40] <waltman> Anyhow, I figure my being there yesterday helped encourage this Mr. Ali to settle and save the court a lot of time and money.
[13:41] <waltman> JonathanD: Indeed. It barely covers lunch in Media, let alone a post-trial beer at the Iron Hill down the street from the courthouse.
[13:41] <JonathanD> waltman: and good on you for being there. I would be there.
[13:41] <JonathanD> waltman: iirc, when the wages were set they were based on a workers day-wage.
[13:42] <waltman> The timing was perfect this time for me -- no missed work, and a little extra cash.
[13:42] <JonathanD> they are not revisted frequently.
[13:42] <JonathanD> So if they're supposed to be a days wage, they should track to that.
[13:42] <waltman> nod
[13:43] <waltman> minimum wage * 8 seems reasonable
[13:43] <JonathanD> Yeah.
[13:43] <JonathanD> I think most min-wage workers would welcome the break.
[13:43] <JonathanD> waltman: apparently the "you can't fire for jury duty" only applies to perm employees.
[13:44] <waltman> If you don't end up on a jury, it's a really easy day. You spend most of it reading, and court officials tell you everything you need to do.
[15:10] <SamuraiAlba> Nacho nacho enchurrito burrito
[19:12] <ChinnoDog> Who here is using an email provider other than gmail that wants to let me send a test email to them?
[19:13] <InHisName> you can send to me if you want
[19:14] <InHisName> ihn  @ sias.us
[19:17] <ChinnoDog> sent
[19:19] <ChinnoDog> InHisName: did you receive it?
[19:21] <InHisName> I went to garbage collection and found it there.   I don't have three letter account, its spelled out.
[19:22] <ChinnoDog> oh. :-p
[19:23] <ChinnoDog> ok. So you received it. I think I know why it never arrived in my work inbox. Thanks for being a guinea pig
[19:30] <InHisName> I made a reply from my real addr to your test
[19:52] <ChinnoDog> InHisName: That was a customer email. You weren't supposed to reply to it. :-p
[20:15] <InHisName> Customer ?   I'm receiving customers.   If so, maybe I can declare I'm finished job hunting .....
[21:16] <ChinnoDog> It isn't a job. :-p