[06:06] <Kilos> cremora minora
[06:16] <Kilos> uh oh, vodacom signal gone weak again
[06:17] <Kilos> Maaz, morning
[06:17] <Maaz> Sup Kilos
[06:17] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[06:17]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[06:21] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[06:21] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[06:21] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[06:24] <HawkiesZA> Morning Kilos
[06:24] <Kilos> hi HawkiesZA 
[06:45] <Kilos> hmm morning SmilyBorg 
[06:46] <SmilyBorg> Hey there
[06:58] <superfly> o/
[06:59] <Kilos> hi superfly trains good today?
[06:59] <superfly> Kilos: mostly fine
[07:00] <Kilos> ok
[07:06] <Kilos> uh oh net split day today
[07:07] <Kilos> wb mrs_fly superfly 
[07:11] <superfly> thanks Kilos, not sure what happened there
[07:11] <Kilos> netsplit
[07:11] <Kilos> * superfly has quit (*.net *.split)
[07:12] <superfly> Kilos: ja, on my side it said, "(No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)"
[07:12] <Kilos> hehe
[07:19] <Kilos> well i NeVeR_ 
[07:19] <Kilos> hi there
[07:23] <NeVeR_> harrow prease
[07:23] <NeVeR_> so no cpt next month :(:( only in October
[07:23] <NeVeR_> fml
[07:23] <NeVeR_> wanted to move next month
[07:24] <Kilos> aw what happened
[07:35] <NeVeR_> my gf is helping with the Woodstock Music Festival this year in jhb :|
[07:35] <Kilos> whew another woodstock
[07:36] <Kilos> i member one like 30 years ago or so
[07:36] <Kilos> are these like anniversaries
[07:37] <NeVeR_> :D
[07:37] <NeVeR_> hehe
[07:43] <Squirm> loo
[07:43] <Kilos> hey Squirm 
[08:00] <sflr> good morning
[08:00] <Kilos> morning sflr 
[08:01] <NeVeR_> woodstock sa used to happen once a year... the past 2 years it didnt happen, but hopefully it will happen anually again :D
[08:01] <Kilos> ah
[08:01] <Kilos> hi drussell 
[08:03] <drussell> Kilos: hiya
[08:04] <charl> morning all
[08:05] <Kilos> and they called him charly
[08:05] <Kilos> he fell outa the sky like the winds of july
[08:07] <charl> ??
[08:07] <charl> hi maiatoday 
[08:07] <Kilos> hiya charl maiatoday 
[08:07] <charl> hi Kilos :)
[08:08] <Kilos> you slow today
[08:08] <Kilos> was teasing
[08:08] <charl> :P
[08:08] <charl> i've only had my third coffee this morning so still waking up...
[08:08] <Kilos> hehe
[08:10] <inetpro> charl: I think Kilos is remembering things from the old days
[08:10] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:10] <Kilos> hahaha hiya inetpro 
[08:10] <inetpro> charl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ng-VjMLNbk
[08:10] <Kilos> was her if i member right
[08:11] <inetpro> Sean Rennie - Charly {1974}
[08:11] <Kilos> was charl born yet?
[08:11] <charl> hi inetpro 
[08:11] <charl> nope
[08:11] <charl> (was not born yet i mean)
[08:12] <Kilos> hehe
[08:12] <charl> springbok radio?!
[08:12] <Kilos> you younguns missed the best years
[08:12] <charl> wow ok
[08:13] <inetpro> Kilos: the lyrics are at: http://www.allthelyrics.com/forum/identify-it/94661-help-with-a-70s-song-plz.html#post779972
[08:14] <Kilos> ty inetpro 
[08:16] <charl> do you people listen to "die antwoord" ?
[08:16] <charl> people in europe think it's cool but i think it's because they don't understand the lyrics
[08:16] <Kilos> never heard of it
[08:17] <charl> it's the same in reverse... people down in south africa seem to think rammstein is cool but it's also because they don't understand the lyrics
[08:17] <charl> if you speak german you get a different idea of what it's about
[08:17] <Kilos> methinks today cool is a state of mind in some
[08:17] <charl> lol yeah
[08:17] <charl> no kidding
[08:18] <Kilos> i think cool came from woodstock as well
[08:18] <Kilos> from the goofballs
[08:19] <charl> there is a place in cape town, can't remember what it was called, it could have been woodstock
[08:19] <charl> all the hippies live there
[08:20] <Kilos> hehe same thing "cool man cool"
[08:23] <Kilos> cold hey inetpro ? no water outside yet. all iced up
[08:26] <charl> they are smoking too much african grass
[08:26] <charl> too much weed will make you dumb
[08:27] <Kilos> lol
[08:28] <charl> it's like that meme... i can't brain today, i have the dumb
[08:28] <charl> i imagine the hippies like that
[08:29] <charl> here's some music for you ballies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmYi5u9BhtI
[08:29] <Kilos> you should actually watch the original woodstock
[08:29] <Kilos> some of the music was good
[08:29] <charl> i bet
[08:29] <charl> they might be hippies but they are not (all) stupid
[08:30] <charl> a lot of fairly intelligent people freaked out and became hippies too
[08:30] <Kilos> yeah ban the bomb etc
[08:30] <charl> back then they used to say: make love, not war
[08:30] <charl> now they say: make love, but wear a condom
[08:30] <Kilos> thats it
[08:30] <Kilos> haha
[08:31] <Kilos> yo zeref_Holiday 
[08:33] <Kilos> i think the bombs they didnt ban are the cause of global warming
[08:33] <Kilos> shifted the earths axis im sure
[08:47] <charl> this reminds me of a hilarious video - star wreck four i think it was
[08:47] <charl> the precursor to star wreck in the pirkinning
[08:48] <charl> when the korg tried to take over the world by traveling back in time and they managed to foil their plans by bringing the vulgars down to earth
[08:49] <charl> the used a satellite to relay some heavy metal, that made the vulgars worry about what was going on because earth had "weapons of mass destruction"
[08:49] <charl> any planet that posess that type of offensive weaponry...
[08:56] <smile> hi all :)
[08:56] <smile> Kilos: hi! :)
[08:58] <charl> hi smile 
[08:58] <smile> charl: how are you my friend? :)
[08:59] <sflr> charl: i was told: make love, not children
[08:59] <sflr> hey smile
[08:59] <smile> sflr: why? :) and when it was told you? :p
[09:00] <sflr> smile 15 years ago. haha. upgrade from the 60's make love, not war
[09:00] <smile> sflr: lol. that's a while ago ;)
[09:00] <smile> sflr: you have kids now? :)
[09:01] <sflr> yes smile, 2 kids
[09:01]  * sflr been around for long
[09:01]  * NeVeR_ doesn't want children
[09:01] <smile> NeVeR_: ok, your choice ;)
[09:01] <smile> sflr: 60 years? ;)
[09:01] <smile> ^^
[09:03] <NeVeR_> O_O
[09:03] <sflr> kids come when they want to. haha
[09:03] <sflr> smile: close to that. lol
[09:03] <NeVeR_> my gf wants children wen we get married...
[09:03] <NeVeR_> well she says when she's 26
[09:03] <sflr> NeVeR_: it starts when your friends start to have kids. they will just talk about babies.haha
[09:04] <NeVeR_> oh heavy :| well I hope no one has babies! lol
[09:04] <smile> sflr: lol! :D
[09:04] <NeVeR_> 2 of my ex gf's have had children.. so scary
[09:04] <smile> NeVeR_: well, good luck ;) find some geeks :D
[09:04] <smile> :p
[09:04] <NeVeR_> lol
[09:05] <smile> ^^
[09:05] <NeVeR_> a friend of mine got married 2 weeks ago... he's 23
[09:05] <NeVeR_> good thing I'm moving to cpt.. make new friends..
[09:05] <NeVeR_> lol
[09:06] <sflr> lol
[09:06] <smile> NeVeR_: maybe google for "no kids please" ;)
[09:06] <smile> :p
[09:07] <NeVeR_> lol
[09:08] <sflr> agh, never say never. more like 'not soon' :)
[09:09] <sflr> Ubuntu Apache, I'm getting access denied error on localhost. I can change permissions, but didnt the web server supposed to work out of the box by just creating files in /www?
[09:13] <NeVeR_> I've never used apache out of the box :P but I think its in /var/www or something.. unless that's centos
[09:14] <NeVeR_> I always create virtual hosts
[09:14] <smile> :p
[09:15] <NeVeR_> :p
[09:16] <sflr> yes its /var/www but not working :) 
[09:36] <Kilos> yo sakhi meesterarend RootChaos 
[09:47] <meesterarend> Hey
[09:48] <sflr> hey meesterarend 
[09:49] <meesterarend> Lotsof new faces i see
[09:50] <sflr> new blood
[09:52] <meesterarend> Seems so
[09:55] <charl> sflr: weird apache issue
[09:55] <charl> according to me it's supposed to just work, as long as the www-data user has read permissions
[09:56] <charl> there are also ways you can configure apache to deny access to certain files
[09:56] <charl> but by default that shouldn't be a problem
[10:00] <smile> Kilos: ! :p
[10:01] <Kilos> hi smile
[10:04] <smile> Kilos: the bot of theblaze went crazy. ;)
[10:04] <charl> ah, was it in here? missed have missed it
[10:04] <Kilos> yeah not a good thing to have on here
[10:04] <charl> *must have missed
[10:05] <superfly> NeVeR_: kids are the most awesome thing EVAR
[10:05] <NeVeR_> im 23 :|
[10:05] <NeVeR_> Maybe in 10 years
[10:06] <Kilos> haha good time to have kids then you can grow up with them
[10:06] <Kilos> teasing
[10:11] <NeVeR_> hahahahaha
[10:13] <Kilos>  Maaz seen nuvolari 
[10:13] <NeVeR_> :\
[10:13] <Maaz> Kilos: nuvolari was last seen 6 days, 20 hours, 57 minutes and 20 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-06-20 06:16:13 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2012-06-13 21:41:54 PDT
[10:13] <NeVeR_> Maaz se porche
[10:13] <Maaz> NeVeR_: *blink*
[10:13] <Kilos> whew he is getting worse that guy
[10:14] <NeVeR_> Maaz seen Kilos
[10:14] <Maaz> NeVeR_: Kilos was last seen 13 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-06-27 03:13:51 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2012-06-26 23:04:46 PDT
[10:30] <sflr> thanks charl!
[10:41] <sflr> Maaz seen Maaz 
[10:41] <Maaz> sflr: Maaz has been offline on freenode since 2012-05-01 16:50:57 PDT
[10:41] <sflr> hmmm.. strange
[10:45] <magespawn> howdy all
[10:48] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[10:49] <magespawn> hows it going ?
[10:50] <sflr> hey magespawn 
[10:51] <magespawn> hey sflr
[10:51] <sflr> going good! sunny day, lots of positive energy :)
[10:52] <magespawn> busy busy busy, and also very sunny here too.
[11:03] <sflr> Banlam: power problems? :(
[11:11] <smile> Maaz seen Kilos 
[11:11] <Maaz> smile: Kilos was last seen 23 minutes and 23 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-06-27 03:48:18 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2012-06-26 23:04:46 PDT
[11:11] <smile> :p
[11:15]  * sflr rebooting
[11:25] <Kilos> wb sflr 
[11:25] <Kilos> need to check on sheep etc etc
[11:26] <sflr> Maaz: count sheep
[11:26] <Maaz> sflr: *blink*
[11:26] <sflr> sorry Kilos, hoped Maaz can help out :)
[11:27] <Kilos> yo wolf
[11:27] <Kilos> grr
[11:27] <WOLFEYES> Good day all.
[11:27] <Kilos> hi WOLFEYES 
[11:27] <WOLFEYES> Heya Kilos 
[11:28] <sflr> hey WOLFEYES. how is your day going?
[11:29] <WOLFEYES> So far so good sflr , just fixing odds and ends at the office really.
[11:30] <Kilos> who all here run ubuntu servers?
[11:30] <sflr> sounds like the job is done then! :) what's for lunch?
[11:30] <Kilos> lol
[11:30]  * sflr runs desktop only
[11:30] <WOLFEYES> superfly, hey, does ubuntu or kubuntu server have added extras compared to the normal desktop installations?
[11:30] <Kilos> he wants to install kubuntu server at work sflr \
[11:30] <WOLFEYES> lol @ lunch , I need some of that.
[11:31] <superfly> WOLFEYES: the server installations have server stuff installed, like Apache, PHP, etc
[11:31] <sflr> Maaz prepare lunch for WOLFEYES 
[11:31] <Maaz> sflr: *blink*
[11:31] <WOLFEYES> lol 
[11:32] <sflr> sorry mate, lunch was cancelled for today. lol
[11:32] <sflr> WOLFEYES: do you use Debian now?
[11:33] <Kilos> wolf if you get the list of extras to install you can use your desktop cd methinks
[11:35] <WOLFEYES> Ty superfly , but we don't have any computers running through this this, they are only linking to it for storage and the CCTV system. The desktop o/s should be enough or do you think I should go the server route superfly ?
[11:35] <superfly> WOLFEYES: the desktop contains a GUI, the server does not. Choose which suits you better
[11:35] <sflr> http://askubuntu.com/questions/125892/what-is-the-difference-between-12-04-desktop-12-04-server-images
[11:35] <sflr> yes, just what superfly said :)
[11:36] <WOLFEYES> sflr, I am inbetween kubuntu and windows, a lot of my work needs to be done on windows and I am trying to get to the point where I can get everything running on kubuntu.
[11:37] <sflr> WOLFEYES: what do you need from Windows? do you have Win specific software running?
[11:37] <sflr> I switched from Windows. Only miss Excel and Picasa for now.
[11:38] <WOLFEYES> When you say "specific", you talking about "wine" etc sflr ?
[11:38] <sflr> i meant some custom software you use at work. written only for windows.
[11:38] <WOLFEYES> yes
[11:39] <WOLFEYES> it is a time and attendance program that we work with for our clients.
[11:39] <sflr> ok. so that would be a problem. how about running a Windows VM?
[11:39] <sflr> or if you could make it into a web based application, then host it on a web server.
[11:40] <WOLFEYES> I have to set that up first, I haven't got that far just yet.
[11:40] <sflr> ok, it was just an idea, it takes time :)
[11:41] <WOLFEYES> That last idea of yours is the ultimate idea I think.
[11:41] <sflr> I prefer that, because it is accessible from anywhere anytime
[11:42] <WOLFEYES> True buti it is a little more complicated than that.
[11:43] <sflr> yes I know WOLFEYES, the reality is always more complicated :) 
[11:43] <WOLFEYES> Lol.
[11:46] <sflr> but it could be a long term solution :)
[11:49] <WOLFEYES> I have wanted to go that way for a while now :-)
[11:56] <HawkiesZA> Has there been any word on when the next meetup in Gauteng is? I'd like to add it to the Let's Talk Geek calendar.
[13:23] <Kilos> whew chatty bunch
[13:31] <NeVeR_> bigtime
[13:33] <superfly> HawkiesZA: it's when you make it...
[13:34] <Kilos> uh oh
[13:34] <superfly> theblaze: remove the bot please.
[13:34] <theblaze> !part #ubuntu-za
[13:37] <sflr> rebooted, forgot to connect! boom! need coffee :)
[13:37] <Kilos> ai sflr old age
[13:37] <sflr> true Kilos 
[13:38] <Kilos> join the family
[13:38] <sflr> VPN also stopped working... more misery. haha
[13:38] <Kilos> eish
[13:38] <theblaze> sflr: why do you need a VPN
[13:39] <sflr> to do work theblaze! haha
[13:39] <theblaze> oh. that sucks.
[13:40] <superfly> theblaze: I said to remove the bot
[13:40] <theblaze> i made him !shutup
[13:41] <theblaze> youre ok with ubuntulog
[13:41] <superfly> theblaze: yes, but ubuntulog just logs stuff
[13:41] <sflr> bot in the house?
[13:41] <Maaz> sflr: Huh?
[13:41] <gc> sflr: Huh?
[13:42] <superfly> theblaze: and we already have two other (well-behaved) bots in here
[13:42] <theblaze> and seeborg just learns from text in the current mode
[13:42] <NotSeeBorg> helenb: you on ignore too, don't have the posix because i hate pdf is not really lower...i can feel it asks for current smb password:
[13:42] <Kilos> magespawn, starting text with bot triggers gc why/
[13:43] <superfly> theblaze: yeah right ^^
[13:43] <theblaze> just dont say his name and he wont say anything.
[13:43] <superfly> Kilos: cause both gc and Maaz are configured to answer to that
[13:43] <superfly> theblaze: I don't care, get it out.
[13:43] <Kilos> oh ty superfly 
[13:44] <theblaze> !part #ubuntu-za
[13:44] <Kilos> ty theblaze 
[13:44] <superfly> Thank you.
[13:44] <Kilos> we dont want war here
[13:44] <Kilos> were a peaceful buncha guys
[13:45] <Kilos> superfly, check bp
[13:45] <NeVeR_> bot R cool
[13:45] <Maaz> NeVeR_: Sorry...
[13:45] <gc> NeVeR_: *blink*
[13:45] <NeVeR_> lol
[13:45] <Kilos> hehe
[13:45] <NeVeR_> Maaz se porche
[13:45] <Maaz> NeVeR_: Sorry...
[13:45] <magespawn> we good do this all day
[13:46] <NeVeR_> :\
[13:46] <magespawn> could
[13:46] <NeVeR_> gc is the man
[13:46] <NeVeR_> he didnt reply
[13:46] <superfly> Kilos: ?
[13:46] <NeVeR_> what a jock
[13:46] <Kilos> blood pressure
[13:47] <sflr> where is the commands for the bots?
[13:47] <NeVeR_> :| 
[13:47] <NeVeR_> !help
[13:47] <magespawn> Maaz has a better education than gc
[13:47] <Kilos> lol
[13:51] <Kilos> sflr, might be here
[13:51] <Kilos> http://blog.launchpad.net/projects/ibid-chat-bot
[13:51] <sflr> thanks Kilos!
[13:51] <Kilos> yw
[13:52] <Kilos> or in his own help
[13:52] <Kilos> Maaz, help
[13:52] <Maaz> Kilos: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.
[13:52] <Maaz> Ask me "help me with ..." for more details.
[13:52] <NeVeR_> Maaz, help me with delivering messages
[13:52] <Maaz> NeVeR_: I use the following features for delivering messages: memo and summon
[13:52] <Maaz> Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details.
[13:53] <NeVeR_> Maaz, how do I use summon
[13:53] <Maaz> NeVeR_: Get the attention of a person via different source. You can use it like this:
[13:53] <Maaz>   summon <person> [via <source>]
[13:53] <NeVeR_> Maaz, how do I use memo
[13:53] <Maaz> NeVeR_: Keeps messages for people. You can use it like this:
[13:53] <Maaz>   my messages
[13:53] <Maaz>   message <number>
[13:53] <Maaz>   my messages for <person> [on <source>]
[13:53] <Maaz>   (tell|pm|privmsg|msg|ask) <person> [on <source>] <message>
[13:53] <Maaz>   forget my (first|last|<n>th) message for <person> [on <source>]
[13:53] <NeVeR_> should i pvt ratheR?
[13:53] <Kilos> you can
[13:54] <NeVeR_> who's bot is it?
[13:54] <Kilos> cocooncrash, 
[13:54] <Kilos> but mainly for our use methinks
[13:55] <sflr> games? wow
[13:55] <sflr> Maaz help me with games
[13:55] <Maaz> sflr: I use the following features for games: duel and werewolf
[13:55] <Maaz> Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details.
[13:55] <sflr> Maaz how do I use duel
[13:55] <Maaz> sflr: Duel at dawn, between channel members. You can use it like this:
[13:55] <Maaz>   draw [my <weapon>]
[13:55] <Maaz>   bam|pew|bang|kapow|pewpew|holyhandgrenadeofantioch
[13:55] <Maaz>   I challenge <user> to a duel [over <something>]
[13:55] <Maaz>   I demand satisfaction from <user> [over <something>]
[13:55] <Maaz>   I throw the gauntlet down at <user>'s feet [over <something>]
[13:55] <sflr> haha. that's funny :)
[13:55] <Kilos> hehe
[13:56] <Kilos> these ibid are quite cool bots
[13:57] <magespawn> Maaz how do i use werewolf
[13:57] <Maaz> magespawn: Play the werewolf game. Channel becomes a village containing a werewolf, seer and villagers. Every night, the werewolf can kill a villager, and the seer can test a villager for werewolf symptoms. Villagers then vote to lynch a wolf during the day.
[13:57] <Maaz> You can use it like this:
[13:57] <Maaz>   start a game of werewolf
[13:57] <Maaz>   join
[13:57] <Maaz>   ( kill | see | eat ) <villager>
[13:57] <Maaz>   vote for <villager>
[13:58] <sflr> lets play!
[13:58] <Kilos> im too stupid
[13:59] <Kilos> catch the fly when he is home after supper and needs a break
[13:59] <magespawn> Maaz software development
[13:59] <Maaz> magespawn: Sorry...
[13:59] <sflr> it sounds like Kilos is the werewolf :P hehe
[13:59] <magespawn> Maaz help software development
[13:59] <Maaz> magespawn: What?
[13:59] <Kilos> haha
[13:59] <NeVeR_> draw holyhandgrenadeofantioch
[13:59] <Kilos> magespawn, you gotta say help me with
[14:00] <sflr> Maaz help me with software development
[14:00] <Maaz> sflr: I use the following features for software development: base64, retest and rfc
[14:00] <Maaz> Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details.
[14:00] <magespawn> cool
[14:00] <sflr> Maaz how do I use base64
[14:00] <Maaz> sflr: Encodes and decodes base 16, 32 and 64. Assumes UTF-8. You can use it like this:
[14:00] <Maaz>   base(16|32|64) (encode|decode) <string>
[14:00] <NeVeR_> I throw the gauntlet down at  Kilos's feet over Software Development
[14:00] <Maaz> Kilos: NeVeR_ wishes to meet you at dawn on the field of honour. Do you accept?
[14:01] <NeVeR_> draw holyhandgrenadeofantioch
[14:01] <sflr> bwahaha
[14:01] <NeVeR_> lol
[14:01] <magespawn> tumbleweed works on ibid
[14:01] <NeVeR_> g2g.. cheers peepz
[14:01] <tumbleweed> magespawn: not nearly enough
[14:01] <sflr> NeVeR_: dont be a chicken now. hehe
[14:01] <Maaz> Kilos appears to have fled the country during the night
[14:01] <magespawn> hah your name is on the list though
[14:02] <NeVeR_> lol
[14:02] <magespawn> he thorughs the gauntlet and then runs away
[14:03] <magespawn> Sir NeVer_ the true, Sir NeVer_ the brave, Sir NeVer who ran away.
[14:04] <sflr> magespawn: you should be the bot script writer. haha
[14:04] <Kilos> eish nev
[14:04] <magespawn> para-phrased from a gorgotten realms game.
[14:04] <Kilos> Maaz, no
[14:04] <Maaz> Kilos: What?
[14:05] <magespawn> Forgotten
[14:06]  * Kilos flees to go move sheep
[14:07] <sflr> Maaz move sheep
[14:07] <Maaz> sflr: Sorry...
[14:07] <sflr> lazy bot!
[14:12] <magespawn> Maaz count sheep
[14:12] <Maaz> magespawn: *blink*
[14:12] <magespawn> brb
[14:14] <Kilos> lol
[14:29]  * magespawn is back
[14:30] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[14:30] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[14:33] <sflr> time to go to the park! yay! :) chat later peeps!
[14:33] <magespawn> okay then 
[14:33] <magespawn> sflr you sound like a dog.
[14:34]  * sflr wags tail
[14:34] <sflr> its nice sunny day here finally.  must take advantage of it :)
[14:35] <magespawn> i keep saying it, you guys really need to come here in winter.
[14:35] <sflr> haha yeah, winter there is close to summer here
[14:36] <Kilos> enjoy sflr 
[14:37] <Kilos> catch up on the UV's
[14:45]  * superfly goes to see if the trains are running
[14:46] <Kilos> good luck superfly 
[14:46] <Kilos> winter avy UV's are like trying to get vit D from a bedside lamp
[15:00] <Kilos> magespawn, thisis what it looks like here at 09.30 this morning
[15:00] <Kilos> http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img137/7119/brrr.jpg
[15:01] <Kilos> dunno if that works
[15:01] <Kilos> http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7119/brrr.jpg
[15:10] <superfly> Kilos: that worked.
[15:13] <Kilos> the first one superfly ?
[15:14] <superfly> Ja
[15:14] <Kilos> yay ty sir. cold here hey?
[15:15] <Kilos> are you on the train superfly ?
[15:15] <superfly> Kilos: I spent a few years in Joburg, I remember how cold it was... Trees with leaves encased in ice.
[15:15] <Kilos> eish terrible hey
[15:15] <superfly> yes oom, things appear to be running smoothly
[15:15] <Kilos> yay me happy
[15:18] <magespawn> Kilos looks a bit cold.
[15:20] <Kilos> bit?
[15:20] <Kilos> whew
[15:21] <Kilos> freeze my butt off
[15:21] <magespawn> i had the pleasure/misfortune of being in Golden Gate National Park in winter.
[15:22] <Kilos> that in the berg somewhere hey?
[15:22]  * Banlam did a roadtrip, cape town>colesburg>clarens>northern berg a few years ago during winter
[15:23] <Banlam> it was cold
[15:23] <Banlam> but we missed the snow :/
[15:23] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[15:23] <Kilos> i dunno why peeps travel miles to see the snow. its horrible damp white stuff
[15:23] <magespawn> on the free state border with Lesetho
[15:24] <psydroid> hi magespawn superfly banlam
[15:24] <Banlam> evening
[15:24] <magespawn> superfly got the machines they are busy charging
[15:24] <Kilos> ya freestate very cold place as well. thats why we gave it to the afrkaans guys back then
[15:24] <magespawn> hi psydroid, banlam
[15:24] <superfly> magespawn: awesome
[15:25] <Kilos> lol magespawn you said wednesday
[15:25] <superfly> Hi psydroid
[15:27] <magespawn> the bguys in the office put my street address, and we do not have street deliveries only po box, so that created mass confusion at the post office.
[15:27] <Kilos> lol
[15:28] <superfly> Bwahaha
[15:28] <superfly> magespawn: we have street deliveries in most, if not all, of Cape Town
[15:29] <Kilos> superfly, he lives in a farming village
[15:29] <magespawn> they could not even find with the tracking number, I had to show them where it was in their recieving book.
[15:29] <superfly> Kilos: ek weet
[15:29] <Kilos> lol
[15:29] <superfly> hahahahaha!!!
[15:29] <superfly> magespawn: I'm gonna have to tell the office about that, they will have a good laugh
[15:30] <magespawn> indeed
[15:31] <magespawn> I want to sell the machines too
[15:32] <superfly> magespawn: have you played around with them a little?
[15:32] <magespawn> had a look yup
[15:32] <magespawn> have not tried to sell anything yet
[15:34] <theblaze> Anyone going to live stream Google io?
[15:34] <magespawn> sales lady said she would give me call back this afternoon to walk me through it
[15:34] <magespawn> no theblaze I am on my way home.
[15:34] <superfly> magespawn: it's pretty simple
[15:34] <magespawn> figured
[15:34] <theblaze> OK. Starts in an hour
[15:35] <magespawn> push putton for airtime push buton to print
[15:35] <superfly> yup.
[15:37] <superfly> magespawn: then your commission gets paid directly back into your device balance
[15:37] <magespawn> how do we get it out?
[15:37] <magespawn> the commison?
[15:38] <superfly> you don't, in essence
[15:39] <superfly> Next time you deposit "less" money
[15:40] <magespawn> sort of a rolling balance
[15:41] <magespawn> or build up a continually larger amount.
[15:41] <superfly> Yup
[15:42] <magespawn> i think your sales team could do with a bit of polish though
[15:42] <superfly> magespawn: gtalk me later and we can chat about it some more... this is #ubuntu-za not #nomanini
[15:42] <magespawn> sure no worries.
[15:43] <magespawn> I am on my way home now, later all.
[16:18] <Kilos> yo queery 
[16:25] <Kilos> theblaze, the fly gonna get upset with you
[16:25] <theblaze> Its NotSeeBorg :)
[16:25] <NotSeeBorg> wiki13: dat kan jij dat is waar notseeborg
[16:26] <theblaze> Just don't say his name and he won't know
[16:26] <Kilos> you were asked nicely to remove bots from here
[16:26] <theblaze> OK fine
[16:27] <theblaze> !part NotSeeBorg
[16:27] <NotSeeBorg> okay
[16:27] <queery> hi oom kilo's
[16:27] <Kilos> you well queery ?
[16:27] <theblaze> !part #ubuntu-za
[16:27] <queery> better now that I am home
[16:27] <Kilos> ty theblaze 
[16:27] <Kilos> home is always good hey?
[16:28] <queery> always
[16:28] <Kilos> no place like home
[17:19] <Kilos> nlsthzn, where you been?
[17:20] <Kilos> hope all well there
[17:20] <nlsthzn> Hey uncle Kilos ... just been busy (went to fetch my daughter yesterday for her visit... also got our first car over here...) so all good thanks :)
[17:21] <Kilos> ok we missed you
[17:21] <Kilos> how old is your daughter nlsthzn 
[17:22] <superfly> Hey nlsthzn!
[17:22] <nlsthzn> she is 12, missed being here too
[17:23] <Kilos> aw shame all that way alone on the plane
[17:23] <Kilos> 12 hours
[17:23] <nlsthzn> superfly, alo :)
[17:23] <nlsthzn> Kilos, she has become quite the frequent flyer... becoming pro at it :)
[17:23] <Kilos> lol
[17:24] <nlsthzn> she is very mature for her age... sometimes too much :p
[17:27] <Kilos> shame what do you expect being so far from her parents
[17:27] <nlsthzn> well... one of them
[17:27] <Kilos> you gotta look at the site too. been repair and updated some
[17:28] <Kilos> we gotta new firestarter here that has time to look at things
[17:29] <nlsthzn> ubunut-za.net (or something like that)?
[17:29] <smile-busy> bye :)
[17:29] <nlsthzn> cheers
[17:29] <Kilos> no man the .org one
[17:29] <nlsthzn> wife calling... dinner time... bbl
[17:29] <Kilos> Maaz, ubuntu-za sites
[17:29] <Maaz> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam  https://www.facebook.com/groups/ubuntuza/  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za   http://ubuntu-za.org 
[17:29] <nlsthzn> thanks Kilos 
[17:29] <Kilos> yw
[17:29] <Banlam> lets talk geek have Shaun Dewberry to talk with this evening, should be starting soon for those interested in this online radio listners debacle: http://live.letstalknetwork.tv/
[17:35] <sflr> hola amigos!
[17:39] <Kerbero> "Microsoft by reputation makes the best hardware"
[17:40] <superfly> Um, what?
[17:40] <Kerbero> keyboards, mice...
[17:40] <Kerbero> ^ quote from letstalknetwork.tv
[17:41] <sflr> how much it costs an external 1TB solid state drive?
[17:41] <Kerbero> gfgi
[17:42] <sflr> Microsoft? i dont know. probably volume = reputation
[17:45] <sflr> who owns the patent for computer mouse? probably it was invented 50 years ago or more. we are still stuck with it today. haha
[17:47] <superfly> sflr: you need to do your homework :-P look up Zerox PARC
[17:47] <superfly> *Xerox
[17:48] <sflr> "The mouse was not invented at PARC, but by Douglas Engelbart in 1963"
[17:49] <sflr> from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARC_(company)
[17:50] <sflr> patented in 1970 http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/bl_computer_mouse_patent.htm
[17:55] <superfly> "Every day I'm buffering!"
[17:56] <Kerbero> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2032456734.png
[17:56] <charl> hi
[17:56] <Kerbero> ^ my video is buffering even though my latency and bandwidth is fine
[17:57] <charl> what are you on, youtube?
[17:57] <superfly> Banlam: do you know the IRC details?
[17:57] <Banlam> yip
[17:57] <Kerbero> http://live.letstalknetwork.tv/
[17:57] <Kerbero> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2032456734.png
[17:57] <Banlam> irc.ltnet.tv 
[17:57] <Banlam> channel:#ltnet 
[17:57] <Banlam> i'm in there now
[17:57] <Kerbero> Banlam: go and tell them my issue
[17:57] <charl> youtube is messing around all the time, especially if you go 1080p
[17:57] <Banlam> or you can
[17:58] <Kerbero> nah
[17:59] <Kerbero> charl: youtube is fine as i am connected almost directly to a cache by a 10gbps line
[18:00] <charl> i have a couple of times that and i still have issues with youtube
[18:00] <charl> i think youtube has a problem
[18:00] <Kerbero> i had problems around a month ago
[18:01] <Kerbero> but it seems fine now
[18:01] <charl> i get some videos, it has trouble if i'm at 1080p then i go down to 720 and it finishes caching in a few seconds
[18:01] <charl> this is definitely not bandwidth, there is something else up
[18:02] <Kerbero> i hate it that youtube still uses flash
[18:02] <charl> it does support html video
[18:02] <charl> try without flash installed
[18:02] <Kerbero> my html5 vids are fine
[18:03] <charl> although i don't think all of the videos are available yet like that
[18:03] <Kerbero> but some does not play in html5
[18:03] <charl> can't recall what the deal was
[18:03] <Kerbero> exactly
[18:03] <charl> youtube has more than most of the others though
[18:03] <Kerbero> and then those ones are show to me with the nasty nvidia/flash/blue humans bug
[18:04] <charl> bah
[18:05] <Banlam> kerbero, one of the computers was using all the bandwidth, tehy stopped that and everythign's come right
[18:06] <Kerbero> nice
[18:08] <Kerbero> too bad they are blue too
[18:13] <Kilos> evening all. was busy on sisters xp
[18:13] <Kilos> sigh
[18:13] <Kilos> you guys chat hey
[18:13] <magespawn> Evening all
[18:13] <Kilos> yo magespawn 
[18:14] <charl> hi Kilos 
[18:14] <charl> hi magespawn 
[18:14] <Kilos> hi there charl 
[18:16] <magespawn> Hey Kilos, charl
[18:17] <Kilos> hey sflr did you get a few UV's
[18:28] <Kilos> nlsthzn, you here?
[18:29] <nlsthzn> yup I be back
[18:30] <Kilos> we got a ubuntuza on twitter too 
[18:30] <nlsthzn> cool
[18:30] <Kilos> you can follow and get ubuntu-za specific news
[18:35] <queery> think I broke my pidgin
[18:35] <Kilos> aw
[18:35] <Kilos> what is/isnt it doing
[18:36] <queery> oh no I didn't but it does not want to use the settings I copied frm the other Home folder
[18:37] <queery> oh that's why
[18:37] <queery> they permitions did not go though -r like I told it to
[18:37] <Kilos> ah
[18:37] <queery> what's the chuser command again
[18:38] <superfly> magespawn: I don't have an Android phone, which it seems is what is required for Google Conversations (or whatever it's called)
[18:38] <queery> oh chown
[18:38] <Kilos> you wanna chown your home?
[18:39] <magespawn> Hah superflu, what you on?
[18:39] <queery> no just .purple
[18:39] <magespawn> Superfly ^^
[18:39] <queery> will this work chown -r test .purple
[18:39] <Kilos> sudo chown -R path to .purple
[18:39] <queery> test being the user
[18:44] <inetpro> Kerbero: you want to get rid of the blue youtube videos?
[18:45] <Kerbero> ek het al
[18:45] <Kerbero> daai hack gedoen
[18:45] <Kerbero> en toe revert dit
[18:45] <Kerbero> so ek is oorit
[18:46] <inetpro> Kerbero: open a flash video in full screen, then right-click and disable Hardware acceleration
[18:46] <Kerbero> rightclick menu is unclicakble
[18:46] <inetpro> oops, first click on Settings
[18:46] <Kerbero> i need to go edit the config file by hand
[18:47] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:48] <Kerbero> ...and had to reload the page now to get the popu away
[18:51] <queery> maar oom Kilos moet ek nie die owner spovify nie
[18:52] <Kilos> queery, i tohught it was you on your pc so who is the owner
[18:52] <Kilos> then you need expert advice
[18:52] <queery> haha
[18:52] <Kilos> thought*
[18:53] <queery> it is my own but to change owner ship I will be in root mode
[18:53] <queery> *sudo
[18:53] <Kilos> but methinks chown will make you the boss anyway
[18:53] <Kilos> that .purple is in your home folder hey?
[18:54] <Kilos> so sudo chown -R /home
[18:54] <Kilos> methinks
[18:54] <Kilos> inetpro, ?
[18:54] <inetpro> huh?
[18:54] <Kilos> oh no you gotta put queery:queery too
[18:54] <inetpro> wat is fout?
[18:54] <nlsthzn> Sleepy time
[18:54] <nlsthzn> night all
[18:55] <Kilos> he has a .purple that wont give permissions
[18:55] <queery> but before or after the path
[18:55] <Kilos> night nlsthzn 
[18:55] <Kilos> sleep tight
[18:55] <inetpro> who's playing with file permissions and why?
[18:55] <inetpro> queery: before the path
[18:55] <Kilos> sudo chown -R queery:queery /home
[18:55] <queery> ok thanks
[18:55] <inetpro> Kilos: nee@
[18:56] <Kerbero> noo
[18:56] <Kilos> queery stop
[18:56] <inetpro> Kilos: oops, nee!
[18:56] <Kilos> /home/
[18:56] <Kilos> ?
[18:56] <inetpro> sudo chown -R queery:queery /home/queery/.purple 
[18:56] <queery> it worked and I did give the permission only to .purple
[18:56] <Kerbero> nee
[18:56] <Kerbero> /home/queery at least
[18:56] <queery> hehe
[18:56] <queery> no it's test
[18:56] <Kerbero> or inetpro's
[18:56] <inetpro> queery: +1
[18:57] <Kerbero> good
[18:57] <queery> i still need to sort our my users
[18:57] <Kerbero> osn het jou goed geleer :P
[18:57] <queery> haha
[18:57] <inetpro> queery: why did you have to change it though?
[18:57] <Kilos> i just chown my whole home
[18:57] <queery> ek het dit van 'n gebreekde profile af gecopy
[18:58] <inetpro> queery: ahh
[18:58] <queery> haha
[18:58] <queery> nee oom Kilos!!!
[18:58] <Kilos> hoekom nie?
[18:58] <inetpro> Kilos: that would be dangerous if you had multiple users
[18:58] <Kilos> ah 
[18:59] <inetpro> Kilos: don't teach peeps the wrong way!
[18:59] <queery> kom ons kyk of dit gewerk het
[18:59] <Kilos> do multi users use the same home
[18:59] <inetpro> Kilos: yep
[18:59] <queery> damn
[18:59] <Kilos> ah
[18:59] <Kilos> i been lucky
[18:59] <queery> wil steeds nie my accounts van daai profile af gebruik nie
[19:00] <queery> do i need to do more than just copy .purple
[19:01] <Kilos> sorry queery 
[19:01] <queery> dis ok ook Kilos 
[19:02] <inetpro> queery: did you quit pidgin before changing permissions?
[19:02] <queery> think so
[19:03] <queery> ok that was it
[19:03] <queery> it was still active in the tray
[19:03] <inetpro> check permissions with 'find .purple/ -ls'
[19:03] <queery> just quit it there and reopened and it works great
[19:03] <inetpro> ok
[19:03] <Kilos> yay
[19:04] <queery> thanx oom Kilos and inetpro 
[19:04] <Kilos> dankie inetpro 
[19:04] <queery> and Kerbero 
[19:04] <Kerbero> :)
[19:04] <Kilos> in future queery listen what i say then do nothing till confirmed by clever peeps
[19:05] <Kilos> i love the chown command
[19:05] <Kilos> especially with external drives
[19:06] <queery> haha
[19:06] <queery> I at least know what not to do
[19:06] <queery> hehe
[19:06] <Kilos> hehe
[19:06] <inetpro> Kilos: you should learn to mount the drive with the correct permissions in the first place
[19:06] <inetpro> then you won't need to chown
[19:07] <queery> oom Kilos and I live on auto mounts
[19:07] <Kilos> ya
[19:07] <Kilos> but have used sudo mnt methinks
[19:07] <Kilos> and umount
[19:08] <queery> bloddy power plug
[19:08] <queery> ah
[19:09] <Kilos> wassup power plug queery 
[19:09] <queery> my laptop powerplug pulled out so my laptop went to sleep
[19:09] <Kilos> eish
[19:09] <Kilos> terible things lappys
[19:10] <queery> yea new battery is to expensive
[19:10] <queery> oh does anyone know how to fix the synaptics bug in the new ubuntu?
[19:10] <queery> I can't use my touchpad
[19:10] <queery> inetpro?
[19:11] <queery> tumbleweed?
[19:11] <Kilos> hehe
[19:11] <queery> using a wireless mouse in bed is not to comfy
[19:11] <Kilos> lol
[19:11] <inetpro> synaptics bug?
[19:12] <inetpro> queery: just use aptitude
[19:12] <queery> no poepies
[19:12] <inetpro> eh
[19:12] <queery> the touchpad controler
[19:12] <inetpro> why use synaptics?
[19:13] <queery> ok i mean synaptiks
[19:13] <queery> well the touchpad doesn;t work
[19:13] <Kilos> the package manager?
[19:14] <queery> but a usb mouse does
[19:14] <queery> forget about the pacman
[19:14] <queery> its got nothing to do with it
[19:14] <inetpro> hmm... ok
[19:14]  * inetpro never used synaptiks
[19:15] <queery> ok
[19:15] <Kilos> did you ask maaz to google the fault queery ?
[19:15] <queery> I have googled it myself
[19:15] <Kilos> 12.04 hey?
[19:15] <Kilos> and lappy type
[19:15] <queery> jip
[19:16] <Kilos> queery, lappy type and model?
[19:17] <queery> dell vostro 1510
[19:17] <Kilos> Maaz, google dell vostro 1510 touchpad not working with ubuntu 12.04
[19:17] <Maaz> Kilos: "wireless - Dell Vostro 1520 wifi not working with Ubuntu 12.04 - Ask ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/141423/dell-vostro-1520-wifi-not-working-with-ubuntu-12-04 :: "wireless - Dell vostro 1310 touchpad doesn't wotk! - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/134681/dell-vostro-1310-touchpad-doesnt-wotk :: "11.10 - How do I enable my synaptics trackpad? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/81805/how-do-i-enable-my-synapt
[19:18] <Kilos> http://askubuntu.com/questions/134681/dell-vostro-1310-touchpad-doesnt-wotk
[19:18] <Kilos> queery, ^
[19:18] <queery> thanx
[19:18] <Kilos> hope it is the same prob
[19:18] <queery> that does not help though
[19:19] <Kilos> eish
[19:19] <Kilos> you need clever help
[19:20] <Kilos> i need to crash. night all. have a good one
[19:20] <queery> gnite
[19:20] <Kilos> nag inetpro 
[19:20] <queery> thanx oom Kilos 
[19:20] <Kilos> yw queery 
[19:21] <Kilos> sorry it isnt working
[19:21] <inetpro> nag Kilos
[19:46] <charl> nn all
[19:52] <sflr> re
[19:55] <sflr> superfly: are you around? I want to ask you to help me with Google site verification
[19:56] <superfly> yo
[19:58] <sflr> superfly: can you create an html file in the root and name it: google5e673cb9d073a864.html
[19:58] <sflr> as content of the file add this line please: google-site-verification: google5e673cb9d073a864.html
[19:58] <sflr> I want to add the site to google webmaster tools for further recommendations and analysis
[19:59] <superfly> done
[20:00] <sflr> thanks, it worked! magic :)
[20:21] <sflr> superfly: comments on this page look like spam > http://ubuntu-za.org/news/2011/05/19/report-back-irc-meeting-held-16-may
[20:21] <sflr> can I delete them?
[20:22] <superfly> sflr: yes
[20:22] <superfly> sflr: easiest place to delete is here: http://ubuntu-za.org/admin/content/comment
[20:23] <sflr> thanks, I clean it up
[20:23] <sflr> superfly: it says those comments were posted by user epour
[20:24] <sflr> is it a loco person you know?
[20:24] <superfly> sflr: nope
[21:05] <AndChat|68096> Back like a boomarang
[21:28] <magespawn> I am off, later all.
[21:49] <Kerbero> o
[21:49] <Kerbero> queery het net gequit
[21:49] <Kerbero> :(