[12:53] <ychouchane> hello
[12:54] <ychouchane> Someone can help me to configure Edubuntu
[12:55] <ychouchane> to use it like a TSE
[12:55] <ychouchane> because now u need tow ethernet card, but i have only one card and i want my user connect on edubuntu like tse ?
[12:55] <ychouchane> thanls to u
[12:59] <ychouchane> can u have forum to help us please?
[13:01] <ychouchane> \join #ltsp
[13:01] <ychouchane> sorry
[13:06] <highvoltage> ychouchane: in the installer you can choose your primary card, you just have to confirm that you actually want to use it
[13:06] <ychouchane> highvoltage, i think i have choose my eth0
[13:06] <ychouchane> but i give his adress ip
[13:07] <ychouchane> and we can connect on the network
[13:29] <ychouchane> highvoltage, i have start my edubuntu 12.04 server
[13:30] <ychouchane> can u explain how i can configurer this please ?
[13:33] <highvoltage> ychouchane: what's the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces file? that's where your network settings are configured.
[13:35] <alkisg> highvoltage: btw we have some python code in sch-scripts that creates a static network connection using the dbus interface of network-manager, do you think edubuntu could use something similar?
[13:35] <alkisg> (in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections)
[13:35] <ychouchane> highvoltage, -> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/406/ychatychouchanefreenode.jpg/
[13:41] <highvoltage> alkisg: I was actually wondering if we could do something more network-managery
[13:41] <highvoltage> ychouchane: ok, so with that you should have LTSP, but no other network access right?
[13:42] <highvoltage> ychouchane: did you usually have eth0 configured with dhcp?
[13:42] <ychouchane> no
[13:42] <ychouchane> i have an other dhcp
[13:42] <ychouchane> and i can change it by edubuntu
[13:42] <alkisg> highvoltage: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/sch-scripts/trunk/view/head:/sch-scripts/ip_dialog.py and http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/sch-scripts/trunk/view/head:/sch-scripts/ip_dialog.ui
[13:42] <alkisg> And a picture of it running, ts.sch.gr/wiki/File:Ip_dialog.png
[13:42] <ychouchane> i need the other dhcp
[13:42] <ychouchane> but i want connect other machine to the ltps edubuntu
[13:43] <highvoltage> ychouchane: ok, when you install ltsp on edubuntu, it also sets up a dhcp server
[13:43] <ychouchane> to do that i need my ltps edubuntu don't be a dhcp server just a ltps
[13:43] <ychouchane> we don't have choice, edubuntu have a dhcp server by default ?
[13:47] <highvoltage> ychouchane: yes... if you chose ltsp on the installer
[13:47] <highvoltage> ychouchane: you can disable it by:
[13:47] <highvoltage> ychouchane: sudo service isc-dhcp-server stop
[13:47] <highvoltage> ychouchane: sudo mv /etc/init/isc-dhcp-server /etc/init/isc-dhcp-server.disabled
[13:48] <highvoltage> ychouchane: to get the info that you need to add to your other dhcp server, you could check the /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf file
[13:48] <highvoltage> I *think* there's a section in the LTSP manual for using an external dhcp server
[13:49] <ychouchane> highvoltage, i think i dont understand wath exactly is ltps
[13:49] <ychouchane> i think i compar it by a windows server tse
[13:49] <ychouchane> system
[13:49] <ychouchane> so why u need a dhcp to use ltps
[13:50] <ychouchane> i want some client with boot with other dcp but connect on my edubutun to use application o it
[13:50] <highvoltage> ychouchane: so, with ltsp, a machine boot over the network without requiring any hard disk or local media
[13:51] <highvoltage> ychouchane: so you need to run dhcp in order to provide information like what the machine's IP address is, where to get a kernel/initramfs, which remote filesystem to mount and which application server to connect to
[13:51] <highvoltage> ychouchane: so you want desktops that already installed to connect to a session on the edubuntu machine?
[13:52] <ychouchane> well in fact i have this on my parc --> o you want desktops that already installed to connect to a session on the edubuntu machine?
[13:52] <ychouchane> sorry
[13:52] <ychouchane> i have this Pc --> http://www.axel.com/fr2/id_M80F.html
[13:52] <ychouchane> and som windows Xp and 7 pc
[13:52] <ychouchane> i know i will make a dia graphique of what i want
[13:54] <highvoltage> ychouchane: yeah it doesn't seem to mention which cpu and how much ram it has. so I can't say for sure whether it would work for ltsp.
[13:54] <highvoltage> ychouchane: ok :)
[13:55] <highvoltage> too bad we don't have a working freerdp server yet. that's probably good for cases like these.
[14:02] <highvoltage> stgraber: heh, we have a deployment that claims to run 12.10 already :)
[14:02] <stgraber> highvoltage: that's scary
[14:07] <highvoltage> stgraber: I guess they just chose the highest version, perhaps it should have "(development version)" next to 12.10 or perhaps the development versions should just not be shown on the dropdown list yet
[14:13] <highvoltage> alkisg: are you up for an edubuntu google+ hangout some time?
[14:13] <highvoltage> alkisg: we want to do more of them to cover some topics
[14:14] <highvoltage> alkisg: I think we should do one on 25 July to talk about tablets and our short/long-term goals there
[14:14] <alkisg> Ah, that sounds better, cause today I'm a bit preoccupied with some stuff
[14:14] <alkisg> Getting some paperwork done, getting ready for vacations etc
[14:15] <alkisg> Do google+ hangouts involve headsets?
[14:15] <highvoltage> cool
[14:15] <highvoltage> you can use headsets or just your built-in speaker/microphone if you have one
[14:15] <highvoltage> but yes, it involves video/audio
[14:15] <alkisg> Cool, got both
[14:16] <highvoltage> alkisg, stgraber, mgariepy: Is July 25 17:00 UTC good for you?
[14:16] <stgraber> highvoltage: yep, that should work for me
[14:17]  * alkisg can't say for sure, as he hasn't programmed his vacations fullly yet, but it sounds ok
[14:18] <alkisg> Maybe I'll be talking to you from some hotel near a beach... no harm there :D
[14:18] <highvoltage> alkisg: ok, I'll schedule it so long and hopes that it gives you enough time to plan around :)
[14:18] <highvoltage> alkisg: yeah that would be cool!
[14:19] <ychouchane> so one this pictuse u can see my TSE system with microsoft --> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/688/linuxtse.jpg/ And i want add a LTPS on my network
[14:19] <ychouchane> so i want people connect on the ltsp to make internet java application, and internet
[14:20] <ychouchane> highvoltage, sorry i do it fast
[14:20] <ychouchane> it's not perfect
[14:20] <ychouchane> on the first picture is a network with a windows server tse
[14:20] <ychouchane> and on the picture is what i want do
[14:20] <ychouchane> add a ltsp on my network
[14:21] <ychouchane> with one ethernet card and i want connect my client on it
[14:21] <ychouchane> like rdp do it
[14:21] <ychouchane> what do u think please
[14:25] <alkisg> ychouchane: do you want to boot your clients to LTSP, or just to connect to it while the clients are booted to windows?
[14:25] <ychouchane> i want ùy client connect to it while the client are booted to windows
[14:25] <ychouchane> or other os
[14:26] <alkisg> What other OS?
[14:26] <ychouchane> because my axel x80f have is OS
[14:26] <alkisg> If you don't want to boot the clients with Linux, they you don't want LTSP
[14:26] <ychouchane> alkisg, the other os is the os my the Axel x80f
[14:26] <ychouchane> :/
[14:26] <alkisg> To connect to a Linux desktop from a Windows client, a good option is x2go
[14:26] <ychouchane> so ltps not for my need
[14:26] <alkisg> LTSP is for booting linux over the local network
[14:27] <alkisg> From there, you can connect to windows with rdesktop or to the linux ltsp server
[14:27] <ychouchane> ok alkisg thanks
[14:27] <alkisg> So LTSP is fine for you if you want to boot your clients with a small linux OS and *then* use rdesktop for windows and LDM for linux
[14:27] <ychouchane> so and of the story fot ltsp for me
[14:28] <alkisg> But if you want your clients to boot to windows e.g. locally, then LTSP isn't for you
[14:28] <ychouchane> the probleme i have many of th axelx80f
[14:28] <alkisg> ychouchane: do your clients have hard disks?
[14:28] <alkisg> ...I mean, local OS?
[14:28] <ychouchane> i don't  think he can boot on the network
[14:29] <ychouchane> no
[14:29] <alkisg> How are they booted then?
[14:29] <ychouchane> he boot herself
[14:30] <ychouchane> alkisg, i have this --> http://www.axel.com/fr2/id_M80F.html
[14:30] <mgariepy> highvoltage, july 25 isn't good for me. i'll be on vacation.
[14:30] <alkisg> All your clients are like that one?
[14:31] <ychouchane> i have some wize
[14:31] <ychouchane> but many of this axelx80f
[14:31] <highvoltage> mgariepy: ok, I'll make sure to plan the following topic where we talk about servers on a time that you can be there
[14:32] <alkisg> ychouchane: it looks like it can boot from the network
[14:33] <alkisg> So yeah, it looks fine for LTSP
[14:36] <ychouchane> alkisg, good things
[14:36] <ychouchane> so now i need to found how configure a ltps server iwth dhcp from windows
[14:37] <alkisg> That's documented in the wiki
[14:37] <alkisg> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPWindowsDHCP
[14:37] <alkisg> Either that, or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
[14:38] <alkisg> Both will work, if you can change the windows DHCP configuration go with the first one, if you cannot, then the second one
[14:38] <highvoltage> ooh, in drupal 7 you can finally approve comments without having to go to some awkward admin page for that
[15:59] <stgraber> alkisg: can we convince you to add the greek schools to http://www.edubuntu.org/deployments ? :)
[15:59] <alkisg> stgraber: I thought we're going to have a global map in ltsp.org, aren't we?
[16:00] <alkisg> Once we do, I'll inform the schools (we don't add them ourselves in case they don't want to)
[16:00] <highvoltage> I guess that would be for ltsp deployments specifically (not all the edubuntu ones are ltsp)
[16:00] <highvoltage> and that would probably only go up once the ltsp website is up
[16:00] <highvoltage> that could still be years
[16:00] <highvoltage> (sorry bad joke)
[16:00] <alkisg> Makes sense... but all deployments here are LTSP ones, not sure what percentage uses edubuntu
[16:00] <alkisg> Hehe Hyperbyte heard that? ^ :DS
[16:03] <highvoltage> alkisg: could the people at the schools add it perhaps? perhaps you could link it from the forums?
[16:03] <alkisg> I can put a link in the forum, sure
[17:33] <highvoltage> cool :)