debfx | ScottK: what happened to my qtcreator backport request (bug #997826)? is it blocking on something? | 07:53 |
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ubottu | Launchpad bug 997826 in Precise Backports "Please backport qtcreator 2.5.0-0ubuntu1 (universe) from quantal" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/997826 | 07:53 |
micahg | debfx: I think he forgot to subscribe archive, but I can upload it now | 07:54 |
micahg | debfx: there's a new version in quantal now though, can you retest? | 07:56 |
debfx | micahg: I'd prefer to backport the older version. The last upload reverted some things that I changed in the package. Fixing that is on my todo list. | 07:58 |
micahg | debfx: hrm, ok, well, I'll leave that for ScottK then | 07:59 |
Riddell | testing testing testing | 08:37 |
davmor2 | Riddell: no can't see a thing it obviously isn't working ;) | 08:38 |
seaLne | hmm so printer settings allow you to select custon paper size but not to specify what the custom size is.... | 09:28 |
seaLne | Riddell: was it you that did printer stuff? | 09:28 |
Riddell | mm might well have been | 09:29 |
Riddell | but I'm kindae hoping dantti will finish his sometime soon | 09:29 |
Riddell | using system-config-printer-gnome might be a workaround | 09:32 |
kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1018750] VirtualBox 4.1.18 crashes. Segfault in libQtCore.so.4.8.1 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1018750 (by Mikko Valkonen) | 09:38 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1018750 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "VirtualBox 4.1.18 crashes. Segfault in libQtCore.so.4.8.1" [Undecided,New] | 09:38 |
BluesKaj | Hey all | 10:21 |
Riddell | hi | 10:21 |
BluesKaj | my widget searchbox suddenly disappeared | 10:23 |
BluesKaj | I really don't miss the searchbox though, clicking all in categories and sliding them across works just as well | 10:40 |
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apachelogger | Riddell: nope | 12:20 |
apachelogger | Riddell: well, it could nominate | 12:20 |
apachelogger | but not actually create it | 12:20 |
apachelogger | for lack of permissions | 12:20 |
apachelogger | (ad creating newpackage bugs for current series) | 12:21 |
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ScottK | debfx: I got lost in what's the new way to do it and then forgot. Since it's no longer the current version you want backported, please do a direct upload with just the new changelog entry and then ping me so I can accept it. | 12:54 |
debfx | ScottK: qtcreator is in the queue | 14:09 |
* ScottK looks | 14:34 | |
ScottK | debfx: Done. | 14:37 |
debfx | thanks | 14:38 |
soee | hi | 14:48 |
kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [995049] package libqt4-help (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: short read on buffer copy fo... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/995049 (by Simon Čopi) | 14:58 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 995049 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "package libqt4-help (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: short read on buffer copy for backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtHelp.so.4.8.1'" [Undecided,Invalid] | 14:58 |
shadeslayer | jussi: I didn't get time to go shopping :( | 14:58 |
Riddell | no sauee for sari? | 15:00 |
soee | hi, are there any works on 4.9 RC1 for 12.04? | 15:01 |
JontheEchidna | looks like Debian removed Qt3 last week | 15:08 |
ScottK | They did. | 15:08 |
JontheEchidna | are we going to do likewise for this cycle? | 15:09 |
Riddell | JontheEchidna: needs looking into but I'd be all for it | 15:09 |
JontheEchidna | me too | 15:09 |
ScottK | First cycle post-LTS is the time to do big things like that. | 15:10 |
JontheEchidna | We should probably start by removing all the rdepends that are also removed in debian, and then remove the ubuntu-only ones/remove the Qt3 portions of ubuntu-only ones | 15:10 |
ScottK | Yeah. | 15:10 |
JontheEchidna | btw, I'll look at replacing kcm-gtk with kde-gtk-config in our seeds/filing for kcm-gtk removal when I get home today | 15:13 |
yofel | JontheEchidna: drop xsettings-kde from the seed as well then, and we'll have to set the defaults for the gtk3 ini file in startkde and kubuntu-default-settings (I can do latter as I pretty much know what needs to be done) | 15:38 |
JontheEchidna | ok | 15:38 |
debfx | JontheEchidna: does it support different gtk themes for different sessions? | 15:45 |
JontheEchidna | dunno | 15:45 |
debfx | that was the main reason we kept kcm-gtk | 15:45 |
JontheEchidna | kcm-gtk is unmaintained, though | 15:46 |
debfx | is it broken in any way? | 15:46 |
JontheEchidna | not that I know of | 15:46 |
JontheEchidna | but the new one supports gtk3 whereas kcm-gtk doesn't | 15:47 |
debfx | it does support gtk3 through xsettings-kde. it might not support gtk3-only themes though. | 15:48 |
debfx | the biggest problem with qt3 removal is the LSB requirement. there was some discussion on the ubuntu-devel list but I can't remember the outcome. | 15:59 |
Riddell | debfx: mm yes | 16:05 |
Riddell | however if LSB is out of date, probably best to ignore it | 16:05 |
littlegirl | Hey there, the about.xml system document says, | 16:06 |
littlegirl | "Kubuntu includes more than 1,000 pieces of software and has access to more than 25,000 other applications to suit your needs." and I was wondering how I can check the numbers. | 16:06 |
Riddell | they're pretty arbitrary numbers, what is a "piece of software"? | 16:07 |
genii-around | Yes, very fuzzy | 16:07 |
littlegirl | I think it means the default applications. Should I change the wording? | 16:07 |
Riddell | you can count the applications with find /usr/share/applications/ -name *desktop | wc -l | 16:07 |
BluesKaj | no wonder linux is such a puzzle | 16:08 |
Riddell | and compare it to dpkg -L app-install-data | wc -l | 16:08 |
littlegirl | Thanks! I'll run those inside of Quantal. (: | 16:08 |
littlegirl | What about the other number? | 16:08 |
Riddell | littlegirl: which other numbers? | 16:09 |
littlegirl | The more than 25,000 other applications to suit your needs. Is that one accurate? | 16:09 |
Riddell | probably not | 16:09 |
Riddell | dpkg -L app-install-data | wc -l is all the GUI applications | 16:09 |
littlegirl | Ah, okay, thanks. (: | 16:10 |
littlegirl | I get the impression, though, that what that sentence is saying is that X number of applications (GUI and command line) come by default in Kubuntu, and X number are available if you want them in addition to those. | 16:11 |
Riddell | yep | 16:11 |
Riddell | but the figures are probably packages rather than applications, which isn't very user friendly | 16:11 |
littlegirl | I can't imagine anyone ever installing all 25,000. (: | 16:11 |
debfx | Riddell: that would be my opinion as well but I feel we should try to reach on consensus on ubuntu-devel before we break LSB compatibility | 16:12 |
littlegirl | I grabbed the daily build of Quantal and put it in a virtual machine. Can I just run updates on that or do I need to download a fresh copy daily? | 16:13 |
Riddell | it should update fine | 16:13 |
Linkmaster | littlegirl: muon tells me that there is 36 odd thousand available packages to me =P with only 1600 installed xD | 16:14 |
littlegirl | Linkmaster: Thanks - then I'll definitely change the 25,000 to 36,000. (: | 16:17 |
littlegirl | The find command gives me 118 and the dpkg command gives me 4952, which are way different from 1,000. (: | 16:18 |
Riddell | better not to talk about packages, they're pretty arbitrary for users, applications is better | 16:18 |
littlegirl | How's this for an improvement: "Kubuntu includes more than 1,000 packages (applications or utilities) and has access to more than 39,000 other packages to suit your needs." | 16:27 |
littlegirl | The way I see it, the sooner the user is introduced to the word "package", the better, since that's what Kubuntu uses. (: | 16:28 |
littlegirl | I have a suggestion for the Launchpad work items. (: | 16:34 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: are you in Tallinn? | 16:35 |
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ScottK | debfx: The next version of the LSB will call for Qt4. It should be out before the next LTS and those releases are the ones that ISVs target. | 16:39 |
debfx | ScottK: Qt 4 is already a requirement in the current LSB. | 16:50 |
ScottK | Both versions are? | 16:50 |
debfx | yes | 16:50 |
ScottK | OK. | 16:50 |
soee | are you using maybe owncloud ? | 16:54 |
jussi | shadeslayer: ahh well, such is life | 16:54 |
shadeslayer | yeah, you should have told me atleast 3-4 days ago :P | 16:55 |
jussi | shadeslayer: yeah, didnt know I had tickets until just before you found out i was going :D | 16:57 |
shadeslayer | :D | 16:57 |
bambee | evening | 19:05 |
kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1005677] Re-emergence of "Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_style_get: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widg... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1005677 (by Doug McMahon) | 20:10 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1005677 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Quantal) "Re-emergence of "Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_style_get: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)'"" [High,Confirmed] | 20:10 |
* Riddell off to akademy | 22:00 | |
skreech_ | :-) | 22:12 |
ronnoc | Riddell: I really think that Ubuntu One service menu should be included by default in 12.10 :) | 22:17 |
kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [990635] Sans serif cyrrilic font in kubuntu 12.04 and 12.10 is bad @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/990635 (by Kirill Bogdanenko) | 22:17 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 990635 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "Sans serif cyrrilic font in kubuntu 12.04 and 12.10 is bad" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 22:17 |
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