[07:53] ScottK: what happened to my qtcreator backport request (bug #997826)? is it blocking on something? [07:53] Launchpad bug 997826 in Precise Backports "Please backport qtcreator 2.5.0-0ubuntu1 (universe) from quantal" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/997826 [07:54] debfx: I think he forgot to subscribe archive, but I can upload it now [07:56] debfx: there's a new version in quantal now though, can you retest? [07:58] micahg: I'd prefer to backport the older version. The last upload reverted some things that I changed in the package. Fixing that is on my todo list. [07:59] debfx: hrm, ok, well, I'll leave that for ScottK then [08:37] testing testing testing [08:38] Riddell: no can't see a thing it obviously isn't working ;) [09:28] hmm so printer settings allow you to select custon paper size but not to specify what the custom size is.... [09:28] Riddell: was it you that did printer stuff? [09:29] mm might well have been [09:29] but I'm kindae hoping dantti will finish his sometime soon [09:32] using system-config-printer-gnome might be a workaround [09:38] ::qt-bugs:: [1018750] VirtualBox 4.1.18 crashes. Segfault in libQtCore.so.4.8.1 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1018750 (by Mikko Valkonen) [09:38] Launchpad bug 1018750 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "VirtualBox 4.1.18 crashes. Segfault in libQtCore.so.4.8.1" [Undecided,New] [10:21] Hey all [10:21] hi [10:23] my widget searchbox suddenly disappeared [10:40] I really don't miss the searchbox though, clicking all in categories and sliding them across works just as well === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 === agateau_ is now known as agateau [12:20] Riddell: nope [12:20] Riddell: well, it could nominate [12:20] but not actually create it [12:20] for lack of permissions [12:21] (ad creating newpackage bugs for current series) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:54] debfx: I got lost in what's the new way to do it and then forgot. Since it's no longer the current version you want backported, please do a direct upload with just the new changelog entry and then ping me so I can accept it. [14:09] ScottK: qtcreator is in the queue [14:34] * ScottK looks [14:37] debfx: Done. [14:38] thanks [14:48] hi [14:58] ::qt-bugs:: [995049] package libqt4-help (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: short read on buffer copy fo... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/995049 (by Simon Čopi) [14:58] Launchpad bug 995049 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "package libqt4-help (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: short read on buffer copy for backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtHelp.so.4.8.1'" [Undecided,Invalid] [14:58] jussi: I didn't get time to go shopping :( [15:00] no sauee for sari? [15:01] hi, are there any works on 4.9 RC1 for 12.04? [15:08] looks like Debian removed Qt3 last week [15:08] They did. [15:09] are we going to do likewise for this cycle? [15:09] JontheEchidna: needs looking into but I'd be all for it [15:09] me too [15:10] First cycle post-LTS is the time to do big things like that. [15:10] We should probably start by removing all the rdepends that are also removed in debian, and then remove the ubuntu-only ones/remove the Qt3 portions of ubuntu-only ones [15:10] Yeah. [15:13] btw, I'll look at replacing kcm-gtk with kde-gtk-config in our seeds/filing for kcm-gtk removal when I get home today [15:38] JontheEchidna: drop xsettings-kde from the seed as well then, and we'll have to set the defaults for the gtk3 ini file in startkde and kubuntu-default-settings (I can do latter as I pretty much know what needs to be done) [15:38] ok [15:45] JontheEchidna: does it support different gtk themes for different sessions? [15:45] dunno [15:45] that was the main reason we kept kcm-gtk [15:46] kcm-gtk is unmaintained, though [15:46] is it broken in any way? [15:46] not that I know of [15:47] but the new one supports gtk3 whereas kcm-gtk doesn't [15:48] it does support gtk3 through xsettings-kde. it might not support gtk3-only themes though. [15:59] the biggest problem with qt3 removal is the LSB requirement. there was some discussion on the ubuntu-devel list but I can't remember the outcome. [16:05] debfx: mm yes [16:05] however if LSB is out of date, probably best to ignore it [16:06] Hey there, the about.xml system document says, [16:06] "Kubuntu includes more than 1,000 pieces of software and has access to more than 25,000 other applications to suit your needs." and I was wondering how I can check the numbers. [16:07] they're pretty arbitrary numbers, what is a "piece of software"? [16:07] Yes, very fuzzy [16:07] I think it means the default applications. Should I change the wording? [16:07] you can count the applications with find /usr/share/applications/ -name *desktop | wc -l [16:08] no wonder linux is such a puzzle [16:08] and compare it to dpkg -L app-install-data | wc -l [16:08] Thanks! I'll run those inside of Quantal. (: [16:08] What about the other number? [16:09] littlegirl: which other numbers? [16:09] The more than 25,000 other applications to suit your needs. Is that one accurate? [16:09] probably not [16:09] dpkg -L app-install-data | wc -l is all the GUI applications [16:10] Ah, okay, thanks. (: [16:11] I get the impression, though, that what that sentence is saying is that X number of applications (GUI and command line) come by default in Kubuntu, and X number are available if you want them in addition to those. [16:11] yep [16:11] but the figures are probably packages rather than applications, which isn't very user friendly [16:11] I can't imagine anyone ever installing all 25,000. (: [16:12] Riddell: that would be my opinion as well but I feel we should try to reach on consensus on ubuntu-devel before we break LSB compatibility [16:13] I grabbed the daily build of Quantal and put it in a virtual machine. Can I just run updates on that or do I need to download a fresh copy daily? [16:13] it should update fine [16:14] littlegirl: muon tells me that there is 36 odd thousand available packages to me =P with only 1600 installed xD [16:17] Linkmaster: Thanks - then I'll definitely change the 25,000 to 36,000. (: [16:18] The find command gives me 118 and the dpkg command gives me 4952, which are way different from 1,000. (: [16:18] better not to talk about packages, they're pretty arbitrary for users, applications is better [16:27] How's this for an improvement: "Kubuntu includes more than 1,000 packages (applications or utilities) and has access to more than 39,000 other packages to suit your needs." [16:28] The way I see it, the sooner the user is introduced to the word "package", the better, since that's what Kubuntu uses. (: [16:34] I have a suggestion for the Launchpad work items. (: [16:35] Riddell: are you in Tallinn? === Exio is now known as EXIO [16:39] debfx: The next version of the LSB will call for Qt4. It should be out before the next LTS and those releases are the ones that ISVs target. [16:50] ScottK: Qt 4 is already a requirement in the current LSB. [16:50] Both versions are? [16:50] yes [16:50] OK. [16:54] are you using maybe owncloud ? [16:54] shadeslayer: ahh well, such is life [16:55] yeah, you should have told me atleast 3-4 days ago :P [16:57] shadeslayer: yeah, didnt know I had tickets until just before you found out i was going :D [16:57] :D [19:05] evening [20:10] ::qt-bugs:: [1005677] Re-emergence of "Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_style_get: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widg... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1005677 (by Doug McMahon) [20:10] Launchpad bug 1005677 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Quantal) "Re-emergence of "Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_style_get: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)'"" [High,Confirmed] [22:00] * Riddell off to akademy [22:12] :-) [22:17] Riddell: I really think that Ubuntu One service menu should be included by default in 12.10 :) [22:17] ::qt-bugs:: [990635] Sans serif cyrrilic font in kubuntu 12.04 and 12.10 is bad @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/990635 (by Kirill Bogdanenko) [22:17] Launchpad bug 990635 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "Sans serif cyrrilic font in kubuntu 12.04 and 12.10 is bad" [Undecided,Confirmed] === EXIO is now known as Exio