[00:02] <michael_> <;
[00:03] <michael_> drem+Thought name  think host let ikp
[00:32] <RadSurfer> whats the name of the system update utility?
[00:38] <RadSurfer> no1 can tell me that, eh?
[00:38] <RadSurfer> normally it runs at startup, but I may have disabled it
[00:40] <RadSurfer> DOES anyone know the name of the Package-Updater that normally runs at startup?
[00:40] <RadSurfer> I may have disabled it... need to run it manually. Tells of security patches etc
[00:59] <L3top> RadSurfer: was your question answered?
[00:59] <L3top> If not, what version are you on?
[01:05] <urgodfather> is anyone familiar with getting a synaptics touchpad with gestures to function properly?
[01:35] <josh___> Hello, I'm having an issue getting into my ATI Catalyst Control Center (Administrative). I'm prompted for admin password, enter it, and it rejects it. Does anyone have experience on this issue?
[01:39] <L3top> josh___: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[01:40] <josh___> what is this? I'm new to linux
[01:40] <L3top> It is a command to be typed into terminal.
[01:42] <L3top> ls is a generic prefix meaning list, pci means things on the pci bus. -nn means give me all numbers in the call. | is a pipe, meaning to pipe this output to another command. Grep is a tool which looks for specific patterns. VGA is the pattern I am looking for, it should be quoted but I am lazy.
[01:42] <L3top> lspci is NOT the same as ls, it is just a common prefix... to be clear.
[01:42] <josh___> Ah nice explanation! It kicked up some info
[01:42] <L3top> I need that info in here.
[01:43] <josh___> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Juniper LE [Radeon HD 6700 Series] [1002:68bf]
[01:43] <L3top> I take it this is a different machine?
[01:43] <L3top> ok great.
[01:43] <josh___> same machine
[01:43] <josh___> just can't tinker with my graphics card as it won't let me in
[01:44] <L3top> sudo apt-get install fglrx
[01:44] <L3top> in terminal
[01:45] <josh___> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded
[01:45] <L3top> apt-cache policy fglrx | grep -i installed
[01:46] <josh___> Installed: 2:8.960-0ubuntu1
[01:46] <josh___> Hmm..is it worth mentioning this is dual boot installed in Windows? Perhaps that could be an issue.
[01:47] <L3top> nope
[01:47] <josh___> Oh okay.
[01:47] <L3top> apt-cache policy fglrx-amdcccle | grep -i installed
[01:48] <josh___> same thing kicked up, INstalled: 2:8.960-0ubuntu1
[01:48] <L3top> Then they are installed. You probably need to reboot.
[01:49] <josh___> Alright, I'll try it out. I didn't install anything prior to joining the channel
[01:49] <L3top> There is also fglrx-amdcccle-updates, but... you probably dont need it...
[01:49] <L3top> Ok.. wait...
[01:49] <josh___> waiting :)
[01:50] <L3top> I'm an idiot josh___. I misread your initial question. You just want into catalyst.
[01:51] <josh___> yes, it allows me into the basic configuration center, but not into the administrative center where I can truely tinker with the card
[01:51] <josh___> it prompts for password, but rejects my password. I verified that I am using the correct admin password.
[01:52] <L3top> sudo fglrx-amdcccle   I believe will get you what you want... though... someone should chime in with the gksudo equivilant in KDE.
[01:52] <L3top> *is
[01:53] <josh___> says fglrx-amdcccle is not a known command
[01:55] <L3top> er
[01:55] <L3top> man what opens catalyst... I don't use it... one second.
[01:57] <L3top> so... whatever the KDE equiv of gksudo amdcccle is... you really dont want to open gui aps with straight sudo
[01:58] <bazhang> !kdesu
[02:00] <josh___> kdesudo amdcccle works to open up the control center. I am, however, limited to what I can configure. Is this specific to linux in general or is the administrative control center more in depth? For example: GPU and fan settings
[02:00] <josh___> The admin center is the one giving me problems in regards to accepting my admin password.
[02:01] <L3top> ty bazhang.
[02:01] <josh___> Yes thank you!
[02:01] <L3top> Opening it as administrator (kdesu) should not prompt you for pass to get into administrative josh___.
[02:02] <josh___> I have an odd issue lol.
[02:41] <Miguelito> Hello - I am trying to get my usb headset w/mic to work on kubuntu - i did something to get it to work on just ubuntu but dont remember what i installed
[02:50] <Miguelito> Anyone help
[03:04] <pietro> what's the best simple FTP server to use on kuuntu?
[03:04] <pietro10> and I wish konversation auto-identified...
[03:04] <pietro10> (on nick change)
[03:14] <pietro10> meh doing it through lighthttpd
[04:04] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[05:07] <swn> Привет всем!
[05:07] <swn> Ё-моё, работает
[05:08] <L3top> !ru | swn
[05:10] <swn> Народ! А что тут делать то надо?
[05:11] <Unit193> !ru | swn
[05:12] <swn> Спасибо!
[05:36] <iHarp> Running Hardy -- Where can I find the config file containing PPA? I hav a bad PPA that is causing my update manager to crash
[05:49] <komodo69> etc/apt/sources.list
[06:31] <kish> rekonq is just rebranded firefox, right?
[06:32] <kish> oops it's not
[06:33] <hateball> that would be iceweasel :)
[06:37] <Smurphy> Morning
[06:59] <hanibana> Hi. The "Show the Destop" widget does not work. why?
[07:17] <noaXess> morning.
[07:18] <noaXess> what about a external graficcard and current kubuntu? http://www.j5create.com/jua230.htm
[07:18] <noaXess> does it work?
[07:20] <StarryNight> sorry never tried it
[08:50] <su_> if any of you are awake, i'm wondering the best way to create a samba share. i can browse windows machine from linux, and can get the windows pc to see the linux box and log in successfully
[08:50] <su_> just don't know how to create a share from dolphin
[09:07] <su_> apparently i didn't have samba installed >_<
[09:07] <su_> fixed
[09:12] <AceKing> Everytime I startup into my desktop, Nautilus starts up, along with the keyring unlock box. I searched everywhere, how do I get it to stop auto starting? I use Dolphin as my default browser.
[09:25] <su_> idk if i'm the best person to answer this but you could look in system settings>session management - I did not like programs autostarting so i told it to start with an empty session
[09:25] <jarle> AceKing: just make sure to kill Nautilus before you log out, so that it is not started again when your session is resumed at login...
[09:26] <amichair_> can anyone recommend a good firewall gui? guarddog was great, but no longer works on 12.04
[09:26] <AceKing> su_:, jarle Thank you, I was just going to post what I found. Under session management, I had to click "Start with empty session"
[09:27] <AceKing> jarle: That was the funny part, I alwasy shut everything down before I shutdown.
[09:28] <jarle> AceKing: if you start with empty session it will not start any of the programs you had running when you logged out, if thats what you want...
[09:29] <AceKing> jarle: If my PC locks screen, would that also kill programs? I usually never logout
[09:29] <jarle> AceKing: no
[09:30] <AceKing> jarle: OK, cool. Thanks
[10:20] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:18] <amichair_> can anyone recommend a good firewall gui? guarddog was great, but no longer works on 12.04
[11:34] <BluesKaj> amichair_, ufw ?
[11:34] <mydogsnameisrudy> morning
[11:34] <amichair_> BluesKaj: gui?
[11:35] <BluesKaj> amichair_, according to synaptic "front-end for iptables"
[11:36] <amichair_> BluesKaj: it's a cli frontend to an even worse cli interface :-)
[11:37] <BluesKaj> ok , amichair_ ...guess I should stay out of FW stuff , was merely making a suggestion
[11:37] <amichair_> BluesKaj: thanks :-)
[11:38] <amichair_> BluesKaj: (for your intentions, not for staying out of it ;-) )
[11:39] <BluesKaj> amichair_, is a FW a requirement at your workplace or are you the cautious type ? Can't blame you if you are , but i'm just curious.
[11:40] <BluesKaj> morning mydogsnameisrudy
[11:41] <amichair_> BluesKaj: cautious type I suppose. I've got a bunch of stuff running here like vnc,mysql,postgres etc. which should never be accessed outside of localhost, alongside a webserver, ssh and others that should. I'd rather be safe than sorry...
[11:42] <BluesKaj> yeah amichair_ sounds like you should be careful , with all those ports open
[11:44] <qbit> one good way to enhance security on web/database server if there is absolutely no anticipation for tcp connectivity is to turn it off in the database server configs and only have the web server connect through a socket
[11:45] <qbit> firewalling is never really a bad idea either though  - I just have zero experience with firewalling in Linux or doing it with GUIs
[11:45] <qbit> I use PF in FreeBSD and just hand edit the rule set
[11:46] <amichair_> qbit: true, that's how I have mysql configured. but there are still a bunch of other stuff, and in general I'd prefer having a gatekeeper rather than being vulnerable to human error, upgrades, bugs and app-specific security
[11:47] <amichair_> and until now, with guarddog, it was pretty painless
[11:47] <amichair_> I've done some lower-level iptables configurations before... I'd just rather not, since it's harder to maintain (or recommend to anyone else, for that matter)
[11:48] <eagles0513875> hey guys and gals im running kubuntu 12.04 netbook desktop layout and I was wondering is it possible ot make the top menu bar automatically hide itself because the menu's for mysql workbench get hidden by it
[11:49] <murad> hi
[11:55] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, in system settings>workpace behaviour> choose different widgets for each desktop, then in the workspace dashbooard , choose an independent widget set ..dunno if this works , but it might
[11:55] <eagles0513875> i dont want to remove the widgets all together though
[11:56] <BluesKaj> can you drag one panel or the to the side or bottomn of the scrn
[11:56] <BluesKaj> or the other
[11:57] <eagles0513875> the independent widget set would require me to go to desktop layout for kde which i honestly prefer :D
[12:38] <BluesKaj> interesting how kvpnc kicks me off IRC
[12:39] <BluesKaj> goodbye kvpnc
[13:10] <simplew> is there any mirror with a more recent kde version like the one that exists in ubuntu repos 4.8.3 ?
[13:10] <simplew> let me rephrase
[13:11] <simplew> is there any rrepository  with a more recent kde version?  in ubuntu repos theres 4.8.3
[13:14] <Sentynel> simplew: the ubuntu repos have 4.8.4
[13:15] <simplew> Sentynel: wht repo are you refering?
[13:16] <CyberSix> the ubuntu one
[13:17] <simplew> CyberSix: i just asked which one is that, becaus ei have the ubuntu repo and i only have 4.8.3
[13:17] <Sentynel> simplew: it's currently in proposed as far as I can see
[13:18] <Sentynel> it's also available from the kubuntu ppa as usual, and 4.9 beta is available from kubuntu beta backports
[13:18] <simplew> Sentynel: whats the url of the repo?
[13:19] <Sentynel> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa
[13:20] <simplew> Sentynel: thats not the url
[13:21] <Sentynel> what url do you want, exactly? the launchpad page? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa
[13:21] <simplew> Sentynel: ah thats a kubuntu repo, thats not ubuntu repo
[13:21] <Sentynel> that's the ppa
[13:22] <Sentynel> it links to the 4.8.4 packages in ubuntu proposed though
[13:25] <simplew> this is very weird, i just tried to change an application association to change default browser and i was told that the file ~/.kde/share/config/filetypesrc belongs to root, how can this be?
[13:26] <simplew> Sentynel: i just see that there are others, how can this be possible?
[13:27] <simplew> in ~/.kde/share/config/ i hve 5 files root owned
[13:27] <Sentynel> probably you ran an application that alters those as root
[13:28] <simplew> Sentynel: theres no application doing such thing
[13:28] <CyberSix> not now
[13:32] <simplew> so this is some done in the packages install
[13:33] <Sentynel> those files aren't created by package install, they're created by the programs when they're run
[13:33] <Sentynel> at some point in the past, you must have run some program that alters those files as root, causing the files to be owned by root
[13:36] <simplew> Sentynel: well some changed it but i dont know what did it
[13:45] <Pupeno_W> tu
[13:45] <Pupeno_W> Hello.
[13:45] <Pupeno_W> Which was the last version of Kubuntu to ship with Koffice?
[13:45] <Pupeno_W> I mean, the good old KOffice with a kword that could open .kwd files.
[13:47] <hateball> Calligra should open .kwd
[13:48] <hateball> But as for the latest version... dunno, check packages.ubuntu.org
[13:48] <hateball> com, obviously
[13:50] <hateball> it would seem oneiric
[13:53] <Pupeno_W> hateball: calligra doesn't open .kwd and it won't.
[13:53] <utusan> calligra could not even open a simple xcel file
[13:54] <utusan> why bother with calligra? OO and LO is best option
[13:55] <Pupeno_W> utusan: can they open .kwd? no, they can't either.
[13:56] <utusan> Pupeno_W: if calligra is just a renamed Koffice and can't open kwd then nothing does
[13:56] <Pupeno_W> utusan: calligra is not a renamed koffice.
[13:56] <Pupeno_W> http://blogs.kde.org/node/4538
[14:33] <freeetown> Great. After fighting with Precise for three hours, I can finally get on here to complain about the blooming alternative-installer iso aka d-i
[14:33] <freeetown> but before i bash d-i, i wĺl have a go at kdm first
[14:34] <freeetown> how come it cannot handle special characters in the password!?!?!?
[14:35] <Pici> I'd be rather surprised if that was the case.
[14:36] <Pici> hrm.  I see a few people complaining of the same issue, but no bugs about it
[14:37] <genii-around> Pici: I imagine it's more of an annoyance for people than something they would report as a bug. But yes, I had same issue
[14:37] <freeetown> Pici: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?58623-Can-t-login-via-KDM-after-upgrading-to-Precise/page2&s=fd65d942f2134473f29f4881c5144425
[14:37] <freeetown> bugs? there was somethign on launchpad.
[14:38] <freeetown> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+question/52742
[14:38] <L3top> That is definitely a bug, and should be reported
[14:38] <eagles0513875> how can i find all sym links on my system?
[14:38] <Pici> freeetown: that "answer" is completely unrelated.
[14:38] <Pici> eagles0513875: find has an argument to search for symlinks.
[14:38] <L3top> d-i = debian installer and is not under the control of *buntu
[14:38] <Pici> Someone who actually runs KDE should submit a bug.
[14:39] <Pici> (i.e, not me)
[14:39] <L3top> I will try and reproduce, and file a bug.
[14:40] <freeetown> L3top: well, that is the only way to install root on a lvm-on-raid setup
[14:40] <Linkmaster> I can attempt to reproduce, though I'm not experienced in bug filings =P (I insist that my computer simply develops new and interesting features)
[14:40] <L3top> I understand that d-i is used... what specific problem did you have?
[14:40] <freeetown> and d-i just adds another pain to deal with after installation
[14:41] <L3top> freeetown: what character were you trying to use, to save me time
[14:41] <freeetown> L3top: x-session-manager was set to /usr/bin/gnome-session although i did not pick gnome or ubuntu-desktop
[14:41] <freeetown> L3top: i had #$ and the one above 6
[14:41] <L3top> what was in /etc/X11/default-display-manager ?
[14:41] <L3top> cat ^
[14:41] <freeetown> excuse me while i try to fix the keyboard settings
[14:42] <freeetown> L3top: kdm
[14:43] <L3top> that is a bit confusing...
[14:44] <freeetown> L3top: eh?
[14:46] <L3top> freeetown: I am looking at some stuff.
[14:46] <L3top> one moment
[14:48] <freeetown> L3top: i was referring to /etc/alternatives/x-sesssion-manager. After solving the kdm don't like no special characters, logging on would end up with a message about not finding gnome with only the option to log off
[14:49] <L3top> Right... there is a sort of complicated flow to get to DM... I am just rediscovering it all, and trying to figure out how this could occur.
[14:49] <freeetown> all in all, that Alternative Installer CD for Precise is going to get people changing over to a console to fix
[14:50] <DaemonWitch> I try to install ubuntu on my laptop which has 2 gpu's (1 integrated and 1 discrete) and the screen remains black. Is there a way it can detect both of my cards? Or at least tell it to use the discrete gpu?
[14:50] <L3top> that should be a symlink
[14:51] <L3top> freeetown: that should be a symlink that hits /usr/bin/startkde
[14:51] <L3top> what was it pointing to?
[14:51] <L3top> DaemonWitch: check out bumblebee
[14:51] <freeetown> L3top: yes, and it was erroneously pointed at gnome-session by d-i although gnome nor ubuntu-desktop were picked for installation
[14:52] <L3top> DaemonWitch: I am assuming you have an intel integrated and nvidia discrete... there are other combos with other solutions...
[14:52] <DaemonWitch> L3top, yes thats it
[14:53] <BluesKaj> L3top, some actaully use intel and nvidia
[14:53] <L3top> That was what I said BluesKaj lol
[14:53] <BluesKaj> oops ..misread your post ..
[14:53] <L3top> but some actually use intel/intel ati/ati intel/ati
[14:53] <DaemonWitch> L3top, any link?
[14:53] <BluesKaj> yeah, these old eyes are playing tricks on me
[14:54] <DaemonWitch> L3top, after i have installed it the screen is black
[14:54] <DaemonWitch> and i text login
[14:54] <L3top> vga switcheroo is better for non optimus stuff
[14:55] <L3top> DaemonWitch: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:55] <DaemonWitch> L3top, i got intel integrated and nvidia discrete
[14:55] <DaemonWitch> what do i need?
[14:56] <L3top> DaemonWitch: you said you installed bumblebee?/
[14:56] <DaemonWitch> L3top, no
[14:56] <DaemonWitch> L3top, after i installed the system all i had was text login and startx didnt work. So i uninstalled it. What should i do now?
[14:58] <L3top> DaemonWitch: What you would do is install the system, then follow the steps for bumblebee... a google search should get you what you need. It is not supported here, but it is what you need. Your chipset has been disavowed by nvidia on linux. In the future try and avoid unsupported hw in linux.
[14:58] <stripe> How do I download thew extra codecs in Kubuntu 12.04 64bit, cheers
[14:59] <L3top> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras I believe stripe
[14:59] <stripe> L3top: thanks mate
[15:00] <BluesKaj> stripe, install kubuntu-restricted-extras and look at the medibuntu repos for other multi media related
[15:00] <DaemonWitch> L3top, so there are no drivers for linux?
[15:00] <DaemonWitch> (btw livecd works)
[15:00] <ikonia> livecd uses vesa
[15:00] <DaemonWitch> i have graphical environment in live cd
[15:01] <ikonia> yes, it uses vesa
[15:03] <DaemonWitch> L3top, thing is i have no ethernet right now
[15:03] <DaemonWitch> so i have to connect from wifi
[15:04] <DaemonWitch> and my wifi is enabled with fn+f3 which i think needs a special program
[15:04] <DaemonWitch> for this combination to work
[15:05] <BluesKaj> DaemonWitch, which make and model laptop?
[15:06] <DaemonWitch> BluesKaj, acer 5742zg
[15:06] <DaemonWitch> (aspire)
[15:06] <BluesKaj> atheros wifi ?
[15:06] <DaemonWitch> broadcomm
[15:07] <L3top> well.. you could create an xorg.conf with Xorg -configure and use the vesa/fbdev driver, then copy it over from ~/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf to get to desktop, and then do what you need to do... from there... but... how are you getting internet?
[15:08] <L3top> What is your internet connection type DaemonWitch?
[15:08] <genii-around> DaemonWitch: According to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1678081 you have to press it twice to enable and 3 times to disable
[15:09] <BluesKaj> ok , my old acer extensa uses atheros ...so nothing similar there , altho BCMs usually work from the get go.
[15:09] <DaemonWitch> genii-around, i have pressed it many times and it didnt work
[15:10] <DaemonWitch> L3top, i will make a xorg with Xorg -configure copy it to /etc/x11 and see what happens with the wifi from there
[15:11] <DaemonWitch> btw right now my windows 7 occupies the HDD. Can i resize the partition with gparted or do i risk losing data?
[15:12] <Linkmaster> DaemonWitch: defragmentation(possibly multiple times), and backing up is highly recommended
[15:12] <DaemonWitch> k thanks
[15:12] <BluesKaj> always back up your data if possible , before partitioning
[15:12] <Linkmaster> the backing up..oh
[15:13] <genii-around> DaemonWitch: So long as you have run chkdsk recently and the filesystem is marked clean, should be no issue resizing from gparted
[15:17] <L3top> While I agree with genii-around, there is always a RISK of losing data when resizing a partition.
[15:17] <L3top> This is why everyone is telling you to backup.
[15:17] <L3top> freeetown: I am still looking at stuff.
[15:18]  * L3top is trying to figure out how you are symlinked to a file that should not exist
[15:18] <L3top> and what d-i has to do with it]
[15:20] <freeetown> L3top: er...i don't know what d-i defaults are but gnome-session was installed (but no gnome heh) and then symlinked to instead of startkde
[15:21] <freeetown> and d-i is involved because i used the alternative install cd - only way to install  on lvm
[15:24] <L3top> I will have to download the alt installer to figure this out. That isn't going to happen atm. I have a very poor connection and netflix is being used elsewhere in the house
[15:25] <freeetown> L3top: no worries - i doubt that you get very many people that moan about d-i
[15:26] <L3top> Well... it is entirely possible that d-i is being used incorrectly... not that d-i is the root of the problem... and THAT would need to be fixed.
[15:28] <L3top> I will just recreate your condition on a dev box and see how it goes.
[15:31] <genii-around> You can always go to console4 to see the output with the alternate
[15:34] <DaemonWitch> hey i got a usb with kubuntu installed on it. I need to load the vesa video driver, what parameter should i append at the kernel line at grub boot?
[15:35] <genii-around> DaemonWitch: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing_the_CD_Boot_Option_Configuration_Line
[15:36] <genii-around> DaemonWitch: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers is what the vga=XXX numbers mean in screen resolutions
[15:37] <DaemonWitch> genii-around, are the -- necessary?
[15:38] <genii-around> I don't think so
[15:38] <DaemonWitch> genii-around, the resolution i have now (win7) is 1366x768
[15:38] <DaemonWitch> x32bit can i load this?
[15:39] <genii-around> No, only the vesa resoltions if you use vesa vga=XXX
[15:39] <DaemonWitch> i dont see this combination at wiki
[15:39] <DaemonWitch> genii-around, i need to use 800x600 then
[15:39] <genii-around> 1366x768 is not a standard vesa resolution
[15:40] <DaemonWitch> genii-around, what is the next resolution i can use after this?
[15:40] <Linkmaster> thats definitely a laptop resolution =P thats mine as well xD
[15:41] <Linkmaster> 1024x600 maybe?
[15:41] <genii-around> Linkmaster: Yes, but not ( yet) in the list of standard vesa ones
[15:42] <Linkmaster> ohh, well, I don't have the standard vesa resolutions memorized =P It looked like a nice resolution on my listing though, so I thought it was
[15:42] <DaemonWitch> lets see
[15:42] <DaemonWitch> genii-around, so if i want to use vesa i just use the vga=xxx option?
[15:42] <genii-around> DaemonWitch: Maybe 1280x1024
[15:42] <DaemonWitch> dont i need to enable anything else?
[15:42] <genii-around> DaemonWitch: That's the idea
[15:42] <DaemonWitch> kk ty
[16:22] <michael> ?
[16:22] <michael> ?
[16:23] <michael> 70b443660fb2a9acb2bacd502a8f4d77
[16:23] <michael> ukploi9 e4 oi9 r 4 i7u e r4
[16:23] <FloodBotK1> michael: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:23]  * michael LKI9yaa, LKI9yab, LKI9yac, LKI9yad, LKI9yae, LKI9yaf, LKI9yag, LKI9yah, LKI9yai, LKI9yaj, LKI9yak, LKI9yal, LKI9yam, LKI9yan, LKI9yao, LKI9yap, LKI9yaq, LKI9yar, LKI9yas, LKI9yat, LKI9yau, LKI9yav, LKI9yaw, LKI9yax, LKI9yay, LKI9yaz, LKI9yaA, LKI9yaB, LKI9yaC, LKI9yaD, LKI9yaE, LKI9yaF, LKI9yaG, LKI9yaH, LKI9yaI, LKI9yaJ, LKI9yaK, LKI9yaL, LKI9yaM, LKI9yaN, LKI9yaO, LKI9yaP, LKI9yaQ, LKI9yaR, LKI9yaS, LKI9yaT, LKI9yaU, LKI9yaV, LKI9yaW,
[16:42]  * genii-around makes more coffee
[16:43] <kurumin> como instalr
[16:43] <kurumin> como instalr
[16:43] <Linkmaster_> I'm actually getting myself some now, genii-around
[16:43] <genii-around> !br
[16:43] <kurumin> po
[16:43] <kurumin> nternet, gerencie arquivos e visualize documentos em um único programa cheio de recursos.
[16:43] <kurumin> categoria: navegadores
[16:43] <kurumin> 14/10/2010     Linux X11
[16:43] <kurumin> olaaaaaaa
[16:43] <kurumin> ola
[16:43] <FloodBotK1> kurumin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:43] <kurumin> como instal propramas no lçinux
[16:43] <kurumin> linux
[16:44] <TheLordOfTime> !br | kurumin
[17:23] <geoff__> how does IRC work?
[17:24] <BluesKaj> !irc | geoff__
[17:24] <geoff__> thanks
[17:25] <geoff__> but I was more curious about the etiquette
[17:26] <BluesKaj> that depends on the server/chatroom. the Code of Conduct if restrictive will usually be posted at the top of the cleint with guideline links etc
[17:27] <geoff__> so people don't just join channels, and begin talking into the void?
[17:27] <BluesKaj> geoff__, for ubuntu https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IRC/Guidelines
[17:31] <geoff__> but where do active chats happen? like http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/05/05/%23kubuntu-devel.html
[17:31] <BluesKaj> geoff__, you can talk intothe void if you have a support question , but general chit chat should be done in #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:36] <webnull> hello
[17:40] <reclock> hola cual es el canal de ubuntu español
[17:42] <reclock> join ./ubuntu.es
[17:43] <reclock> no recuerdo como conectarme
[17:43] <BluesKaj> reclock, /join ubuntu-es
[17:44] <yoyo> !es
[17:44] <reclock> tenks
[17:44] <leonard_> /join #xbmc
[17:44] <genii-around> one /
[17:44] <leonard_> strange client
[17:45] <yoyo> or click on #xbmc
[17:45] <leonard_> thx
[17:45] <leonard_> did i type 2 slashes?
[17:46] <BluesKaj> guess i should have specified  /join ubuntu-es in the server textbox
[17:53] <jamil_1> hi all
[17:53] <jamil_1> wonder why Xorg process is eating 80% cpu and plasma-desktop is eating 40% cpu
[17:53] <jamil_1> how can I reduce this load ?
[17:53] <d0c_> u have a fresh install?
[17:54] <jamil_1> nope
[17:54] <jamil_1> ~ 6 months old
[17:54] <jamil_1> or perhaps more
[17:54] <genii-around> jamil_1: alt-shift-f12 turns off windows effects. They often chew up a lot of resources
[17:55] <d0c_> maybe some bug with a theme
[17:55] <jamil_1> not that Xorg and plasma-desktop hog cpu at all times, but when they do, pc becomes barely useable
[18:12] <amr_> hi
[18:15] <amr_> hi everybody
[18:30] <anon__> Hi. I have a generic question please. I have a folder which contains many (100+) subfolders, each containing a few subfolders of their own, etc. Is there a quick way to gather all the files (not folders) in a single folder?
[18:32] <L3top> find ./ -f * --exec mv {} /path/to/folder         may work.
[18:32] <L3top> er
[18:32] <L3top> find ./ -f '*' --exec mv {} /path/to/folder may work.
[18:33] <anon__>  '*' will not also move folders?
[18:33] <anon__> will try this though and report back, thanks :)
[18:35] <anon__> find: unknown predicate `-f'
[18:37] <L3top> er... one second
[18:37] <L3top> -type f
[18:37] <L3top> sorry
[18:38] <L3top> find ./ -type f '*' --exec mv {} /path/to/folder may work.
[18:38] <Pici> you don't need that '*' there.
[18:39] <anon__> welp,
[18:39] <anon__> with '*', I get this error:
[18:39] <anon__> find: Arguments to -type should contain only one letter
[18:39] <L3top> yeah... probably not...
[18:39] <L3top> sorry
[18:39] <anon__> and without '*'
[18:39] <anon__> I get this:
[18:40]  * L3top should test gibblets like that before giving to people... esp with exec...
[18:40] <anon__> find: unknown predicate `--exec'
[18:40] <Pici> -exec only has one dash
[18:40] <L3top> one -
[18:40] <Pici> and you may want to change -exec to -echo to make sure it looks like its doing what you want.
[18:41]  * L3top is all over the place... sorry
[18:41] <Pici> you need \; at the end as well.
[18:41] <L3top> yeah
[18:41] <L3top> man
[18:41] <anon__> I also tried with one dash (after consulting man)
[18:41] <L3top> script fail.
[18:41] <anon__> haha
[18:41]  * genii-around makes a very strong coffee, makes sure L3top drinks it
[18:41] <L3top> ty Pici
[18:41] <anon__> ok let's try with -echo instead of exec and a \;
[18:41] <Pici> :)
[18:42] <anon__> still, unknown predicate '-echo'
[18:42] <anon__> here's my command:
[18:42] <anon__> find /Desktop/users/user/ -type f -echo mv {} /Desktop/users/user/all \;
[18:43] <L3top> that will create a loop
[18:43] <L3top> oh no nm
[18:43]  * L3top drinks coffee
[18:44] <Pici> hrm... echo might have been deprecated.  use -print
[18:44] <anon__> I'm down my first bottle of white wine, brb till I bring the second one, it's going to be a long night :)
[18:44] <Klaus_Dieter> hello world
[18:44] <anon__> find: paths must precede expression: mv
[18:44] <anon__> Usage: find [-H] [-L] [-P] [-Olevel] [-D help|tree|search|stat|rates|opt|exec] [path...] [expression]
[18:44] <Pici> and yes, that will create a loop. use -maxdepth=1 if you didn't want to decend down any subdirectories in /Desktop/users/user/
[18:44] <anon__> (after using -print)
[18:44] <Pici> ugh
[18:44] <anon__> brb
[18:44] <Pici> one monet
[18:44] <lordievader> Hey everyone
[18:45] <Pici> hrm... looks like find has removed -echo, but now theres -ok
[18:46] <Klaus_Dieter> I am running the current kubuntu release and I am happy with it. however every time kalender pops up a reminder I also get this popup that a module called "Z protocol source" could be installed but it is never found for the install. what exactly is missing here?
[18:46] <Klaus_Dieter> Pici: isn't that print0?
[18:46] <Klaus_Dieter> Pici: also -exec echo {} \; does the trick... but it probably is a hell of a lot slower
[18:47] <Pici> ugh
[18:47] <Pici> Klaus_Dieter: thats what I wanted
[18:47] <Pici> I think *I* need the coffee now.
[18:47] <Pici> been a long day here.
[18:47] <Klaus_Dieter> :)
[18:48] <Pici> anon__: sorry for the confusion.
[18:49]  * genii-around makes a fresh new pot of very strong coffee for everyone
[18:50] <anon__> genii-around can I have a turkish coffee please?
[18:50] <anon__> Pici np, just got a bit lost, what would the command look like now?
[18:50]  * genii-around slides anon__ a turkish coffee, just right for drinking
[18:51] <anon__> (wow given that I'm receiving commands all day long at work, feels good actually command...)
[18:51] <Pici> anon__: find /path/ -type f -exec echo mv {} /other/place/ \;
[18:51] <anon__> ok let's try this
[18:51] <Pici> and then just make sure it looks good before you remove the echo from that.
[18:52] <anon__> find: missing argument to `-exec'
[18:52] <Klaus_Dieter> hmm I am not sure this is space safe
[18:52] <Pici> its technically not.
[18:52] <anon__> space safe?
[18:53] <Pici> If you have spaces in your filenames.
[18:53] <Klaus_Dieter> if you have spaces / special chars / newlines in your file names this will break
[18:53] <anon__> ah
[18:53] <Klaus_Dieter> if you only want -maxdepth 1 why don't you use shell globbing?
[18:53] <anon__> btw, should there be a space between /place/\;  ?  (before \;)
[18:53] <Klaus_Dieter> for i in *; do mv "${i} /some/place/else; done
[18:54] <anon__> Klaus_Dieter: because of two reasons: A) I don't know what -maxdepth is, and B) I have no idea what globbing is, if it hasn't a sexual connotation
[18:54] <Klaus_Dieter> I wasn'T aware of a sexual connotation... not a native speaker
[18:54] <Klaus_Dieter> lol
[18:54] <Klaus_Dieter> the shell will expand * to filenames
[18:54] <anon__> neither do I, just sounds like a sloppy blowjob
[18:55] <Klaus_Dieter> ok so let's just note that if I had meant a sloppy blowjob, I would have said "sloppy blowjob" and move on then ;)
[18:56] <Klaus_Dieter> anon__: so what exactly are you hoping to achieve?
[18:56] <genii-around> Please remember to try and be family friendly in this channel
[18:56] <Klaus_Dieter> ok. I am trying but apparently not very good at it. sorry.
[18:56] <anon__> Klaus_Dieter: assuming I have /folder with a large structure of subfolders, sub-sub-folders, each containing some files. I also know for a fact that there aren't two similar filenames,
[18:57] <L3top> It will not break on spaces.
[18:57] <anon__> I need to move all files into a single folders
[18:57] <anon__> L3top: I am almost sure there aren't any spaces, but there could be some special characters.
[18:57] <anon__> ah I (may) have an idea, can wget work on local folders?
[18:58] <Klaus_Dieter> anon__:  are spaces in the filenames or directories?
[18:58] <anon__> Klaus_Dieter: in filenames *probably*
[19:01] <Klaus_Dieter> well since L3top has now established that what Pici  wrote will not break on spaces (also I tried locally) I don't see why this shouldn't work
[19:01] <L3top> you would want to use rsync over wget probably... but find will work. You should check in #bash with what you have for further tweaking.
[19:01] <L3top> I dont know about special characters, but I cannot see why it would be a problem with find
[19:01] <anon__> well I have stock installation (Penguin)
[19:01] <L3top> find finds special chars.
[19:01] <L3top> mv...
[19:01] <Klaus_Dieter> anon__: don'T worry this will work
[19:02] <L3top> that might cause a problem
[19:02] <anon__> ok just so I can eliminate the possibility of typo, would anyone please type me the final command, and I will only replace the paths?
[19:02] <Klaus_Dieter> L3top: I just tried with spaces
[19:02] <Klaus_Dieter> anon__: you are only exchanging the risk of you making a typo for the risk of someone else making a typo
[19:02] <L3top> yeah... me too with whitespaces
[19:02] <L3top> but... umlaut or something...
[19:03] <anon__> hehehe
[19:03] <L3top> or !
[19:03] <L3top> could do some weird stuff
[19:03] <anon__> Klaus_Dieter: isn't this why I came to the experts channel?
[19:03] <Klaus_Dieter> L3top: didn't try with newlines though
[19:03] <L3top> anon__: for this #bash are the beasts
[19:03] <L3top> filename with newlines?
[19:04] <L3top> who would do such an evil thing
[19:04] <anon__> L3top: nope, no newlines
[19:04] <anon__> hehehe
[19:04] <Klaus_Dieter> anon__: well... no. Coming here does not rid you of the responsibility for your system
[19:04] <anon__> okk I'll see with #bash, will report back here if there's any success
[19:04] <Klaus_Dieter> however Pici  has already typed out what you need
[19:05] <Klaus_Dieter> find /path/ -type f -exec echo mv {} /other/place/ \;
[19:05] <Klaus_Dieter> to execute, only get rid of the echo
[19:10] <anon__> gentlemen,
[19:10] <anon__> we have the answer
[19:10] <anon__> finish your drink and look at this:
[19:10] <anon__> find /path/from -type f -exec mv -t /path/to {} +
[19:11] <anon__> the man placed the + sign at the end to note that he's GOOD
[19:13] <anon__> thanks for everyone, have a great evening
[19:16] <L3top> root@dcerouter:~/Desktop# find ./ -type f -iname '*' -exec cp {} /home/$USER/Desktop \+          <=-------- was one of my experiments before figuring out that spaces weren't a problem.
[19:17] <L3top> almost there...
[19:17] <L3top> lol
[19:18]  * L3top supposes the 30 or so failures over here still indicate he ISN'T good
[20:08] <activus1> Can't "identify" -- I don't know password -- can someone help?
[20:08] <Linkmaster> activus1: #freenode
[21:11] <zhak> hi
[23:45] <Guest1083> looking to download previous version 11.10 ----- where would i do that?