[02:56] <hellekin> hi there. Is the password reset functionality broken on launchpad.net?
[02:59] <hellekin> can someone tell me what email I used for https://launchpad.net/~hellekin ? I didn't use the site for so long, and I can't reset password. If it's a Gmail account, it does not exist anymore (but I would expect @cepheide.org)
[03:07] <StevenK> hellekin: Your expection is correct.
[03:08] <StevenK> expectation, rather
[03:08] <hellekin> StevenK: then it seems there's an issue with email reset
[03:08] <hellekin> password reset (email not received)
[03:18] <wgrant> hellekin: You'll see a support link at the bottom of the password reset page. Can you file a request there?
[03:21] <hellekin> wgrant: I read "If you have forgotten your Launchpad password or your password is rejected, you can request a reminder on the standard Launchpad login page."
[03:21] <hellekin> following the link says "This page is meant to be called from an OpenID-enabled site and therefore has no user-facing functions."
[03:22] <hellekin> should I report a bug for that? ;o)
[03:23] <wgrant> hellekin: Looks like you need to select Other to actually get the support form.
[03:26] <hellekin> wgrant: form submitted
[03:26] <wgrant> hellekin: Great.
[03:27] <wgrant> (login.launchpad.net is actually a different theme for login.ubuntu.com -- it's not managed by Launchpad staff, so you need to use the normal Ubuntu SSO support channels)
[03:28] <hellekin> ( bleh. I'm using Debian :P )
[03:28] <hellekin> my 70yo mother uses Ubuntu ;o)
[03:28] <wgrant> That's why it's a different theme :)
[04:02] <pipedream> Hi, can someone increase the size of this PPA?
[04:02] <pipedream> https://launchpad.net/~aims/+archive/sagemath/+packages
[04:02] <pipedream> I want to upload a new upstream version
[04:02] <pipedream> (e.g can it be doubled? sagemath is a large package)
[04:03] <wgrant> pipedream: The quote has been doubled.
[04:04] <micahg> pipedream: if it's open source, why are you not building it in the PPA?
[04:07] <pipedream> wgrant: thanks
[04:08] <pipedream> micahg: the from-source is a hard problem
[04:08] <wgrant> pipedream: This looks a lot like a GPL violation.
[04:08] <wgrant> pipedream: Since you're distributing binaries without the corresponding source.
[04:08] <pipedream> it contains 50 or 100 other free software packages, and builds cleanly because of tight version control
[04:09] <pipedream> wgrant: the binary contains the whole source tree and mercurial history
[04:09] <wgrant> Ah, handy.
[04:09] <wgrant> So it's merely fairly evil, not actually illegal. :)
[04:09] <pipedream> micahg: people are working on debianizing it, this is meant to bridge the gap in the meantime: easy installs and automatic updates
[04:09] <pipedream> heh
[04:10] <pipedream> I think it fills an important hole in sagemath adoption
[04:10] <pipedream> I can't wait to not have to do this, btw
[04:10] <wgrant> Indeed, it looks like a reasonable solution for now.
[04:10] <pipedream> I have started working on from-source, one component, maxima failed due to -Bsymbolic-something
[04:10] <pipedream> that was just the beginning.
[04:10] <wgrant> It builds its own maxima? :/
[04:10] <pipedream> the PPA repackages the upstream built binary, and rolls out fairly easily
[04:11] <wgrant> maxima's problematic to build reliably at the best of times :)
[04:11] <pipedream> wgrant: all of these http://www.sagemath.org/download-packages.html
[04:11] <pipedream> uhm no: http://www.sagemath.org/packages/standard/
[04:12] <micahg> looks like most of these are already packaged at least
[04:12] <wgrant> Yeah
[04:12] <pipedream> and the debianization (initially started by tim abbott of ksplice) got so outdated no one used it
[04:12] <wgrant> And at least a lot of them have fairly stable APIs.
[04:12] <pipedream> micahg: the version dependencies are way way way tooi tight
[04:12] <pipedream> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/debian-sage
[04:12] <micahg> pipedream: so loosen them :)
[04:12] <pipedream> micahg: about 5 years worth of work
[04:12] <pipedream> the PPA took one month
[04:13] <pipedream> (and I learnt packaging from scratch in that month, alongside a full time job)
[04:14] <pipedream> http://wiki.sagemath.org/devel/DebianSage
[04:14] <pipedream> people are working on it
[04:14] <pipedream> "started 2008"
[04:14] <micahg> pipedream: the first step I'd suggest is just to bundle all the sources you need and build them
[04:14] <pipedream> that wiki is dead now, the work has moved
[04:15] <micahg> then you can at least build from source
[04:15] <micahg> then you can work on using system versions
[04:15] <pipedream> micahg: we can build from source already
[04:15] <micahg> pipedream: I mean in the PPA :)
[04:16] <pipedream> building from source inside debuild is a while other baby. but that is what we are working on yes.
[04:16] <pipedream> I doubt you suggest I STOP updating the PPA though
[04:16] <pipedream> /while/whole/
[04:17] <micahg> pipedream: no, not at all, but just suggesting a more common way of solving your problem
[04:17] <pipedream> I also have rstudio-upstream-deb and casapy-upstream-binary :-P
[04:17] <pipedream> micahg: thanks. We are working on it
[04:18] <micahg> pipedream: BTW, there's #ubuntu-packaging if you run into issues
[04:18] <pipedream> sure, that is where I got my first help. I know tumbleweed from www.clug.org.za and he helped me a lot
[04:19] <pipedream> the PPA solves a *different* problem: urgency ;)
[04:20] <pipedream> the from-source will solve the main problem once and for all, but it takes time
[04:21] <pipedream> here is the latest on debianization, if anyone wants to help out: http://lists.debian.org/debian-science/2012/05/msg00092.html
[04:22] <pipedream> that is pretty much where it resurfaced after a year or two dormant
[05:44] <jesuslovesyou101> Hey guys, I keep getting a page error when trying to upload a tar.gz to my project. But its only 172.8 MB
[06:15] <jesuslovesyou101> Ok....well thanks
[06:24] <alkisg> Hi, is there any problem with branch mirroring? https://code.launchpad.net/~vagrantc/ltsp/ltsp-debian-packaging doesn't pull from http://anonscm.debian.org/loggerhead/pkg-ltsp/ltsp-debian-packaging/changes/ anymore...
[06:26] <wgrant> alkisg: It possibly doesn't like the redirect
[06:26] <wgrant> I'd reregister it with the new URL
[06:26] <alkisg> wgrant: thank you wgrant, I'll notify the branch maintainer...
[06:26] <wgrant> alkisg: You can register a fresh import yourself.
[06:27] <alkisg> Ah right, let me read about that...
[06:28] <wgrant> https://code.launchpad.net/ltsp/+new-import
[06:31] <alkisg> Thanks, the instructions on https://help.launchpad.net/Code/MirroredBranches didn't work :)
[06:31] <wgrant> Oh, that page shouldn't still exist
[06:31] <wgrant> Since mirrored branches are deprecated in favour of imports
[06:32]  * wgrant deletes.
[06:37] <alkisg> Hmm I'm not sure about what to put in bzr location... if I put the same, "http://bzr.debian.org/bzr/pkg-ltsp/ltsp-debian-packaging", then why would my import work while vagrantc's doesn't?
[06:37] <alkisg> ...and also I only see a very old dir there, "backup.bzr/13-May-2011 17:37    "...
[06:38] <wgrant> alkisg: That URL redirects to http://anonscm.debian.org/bzr/bzr/pkg-ltsp/ltsp-debian-packaging/
[06:38] <wgrant> There's a .bzr there, but Apache doesn't show it by default
[06:38] <wgrant> Enter the post-redirect URL
[06:38] <alkisg> Got it, thank you
[06:38] <wgrant> anonscm.debian.org, rather than bzr.debian.org
[06:39] <alkisg> I'll skip the second bzr from the URL too, it's probably a wrong redirect...
[06:40] <wgrant> Indeed
[06:40] <wgrant> Seems to work without it
[06:40] <alkisg> https://code.launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/ltsp/ltsp-debian-packaging - lets see if everything is ok now
[06:44] <Matt_Chen> Hi, does any one can help me to work on upload my PPA ?
[06:46] <wgrant> Matt_Chen: What's up?
[06:46] <Matt_Chen> I did "dput -u ppa:matt680209/test pcmanx-gtk2_1.1-2_amd64.changes".
[06:47] <Matt_Chen> everything is working fine, but I can not see it in my https://launchpad.net/~matt680209/+archive/test
[06:47] <wgrant> Matt_Chen: Looks like you've got two problems there.
[06:47] <wgrant> Firstly, you're trying to upload binary packages, when you need to upload just a source package
[06:47] <wgrant> _source.changes, rather than _amd64.changes
[06:48] <Matt_Chen> wgrant, I see.
[06:48] <wgrant> Secondly, you shouldn't need -u -- that skips OpenPGP signature verification, but if it isn't signed with a key known to Launchpad then the upload will fail silently.
[06:48] <Matt_Chen> wgrant, I don't import the PGP key to my lunchpad.
[06:49] <wgrant> Matt_Chen: Have you read https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading?
[06:49] <Matt_Chen> wgrant, yes.
[06:49] <Matt_Chen> wgrant, I think I missed something from the document.
[06:51] <wgrant> Matt_Chen: https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ImportingYourPGPKey tells you how to import your key.
[06:52] <Matt_Chen> wgrant, it is good. Thank you for helping me this.
[06:56] <wgrant> alkisg: That import's done.
[06:56] <alkisg> Yup, thanks again :)
[06:56] <alkisg> (just got an email about it)
[06:59] <Matt_Chen> wgrant, how to open Passwords and Encryption Keys in ubuntu 12.04 LTS ?
[07:00] <Matt_Chen> wgrant, I would need it to push it to the Ubuntu keyserver.
[07:00] <wgrant> Matt_Chen: Hit the dash icon (the Ubuntu icon in the top left), then type "password". You should see it there.
[07:01] <Matt_Chen> wgrant, OK.
[07:31] <Matt_Chen> wgrant, I have my gpg key in my launchpad account now. how would I upload my pcmanx-gtk2_1.1-2_source.changes to my PPA ?
[07:33] <wgrant> Matt_Chen: The same command you used before, except without -u
[07:34] <Matt_Chen> still complains me :
[07:34] <Matt_Chen> Checking signature on .changes
[07:34] <Matt_Chen> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[07:34] <Matt_Chen> gpg: the signature could not be verified.
[07:34] <Matt_Chen> Please remember that the signature file (.sig or .asc)
[07:34] <Matt_Chen> should be the first file given on the command line.
[07:34] <Matt_Chen> No signature on /home/linux/bzr/pcmanx-gtk2_1.1-2_source.changes.
[07:34] <wgrant> Matt_Chen: Havev you rebuilt the source package since you uploaded your key?
[07:35] <Matt_Chen> wgrant, locally or in launchpad ?
[07:35] <wgrant> Matt_Chen: Locally
[07:35] <Matt_Chen> wgrant, oh...not yet, I didn't know that's needed. sorry
[07:35] <wgrant> Matt_Chen: debuild will automatically sign the .changes file with your key if the name+email on your key match what's in the changelog.
[07:35] <wgrant> Otherwise you can manually run 'debsign -k508D6F47 pcmanx-gtk2_1.1-2_source.changes'
[07:36] <Matt_Chen> wgrant, I see.
[07:36]  * Matt_Chen doing rebuild
[07:42] <Matt_Chen> wgrant, amazing, it works. :-D
[07:42] <Matt_Chen> wgrant, thank you so much.
[07:44] <Matt_Chen> wgrant, but why I still see nothing in my PPA ?
[07:48] <wgrant> Matt_Chen: You should have an email now.
[07:48] <wgrant> Matt_Chen: Uploads are only processed every 5 or 10 minutes.
[07:48] <Matt_Chen> wgrant, I have it now, it says "linux@linux-HP-G6-Notebook-PC is not a valid email address".
[07:48] <wgrant> Matt_Chen: Yep
[07:49] <wgrant> Matt_Chen: Sounds like your email address is incorrect in the changelog.
[07:49] <StevenK> Matt_Chen: If you use dch to edit the changelog, you can set DEBFULLNAME and DEBEMAIL which dch will respect.
[07:50] <Matt_Chen> wgrant, hum...so I need to do "bzr whoami " ?
[07:50] <wgrant> Matt_Chen: No, debian/changelog, not the bzr changelog.
[07:50] <wgrant> As StevenK says.
[07:50] <Matt_Chen> StevenK, wgrant, I see. I really use dch.
[07:52] <Matt_Chen> StevenK, how to set that ? I mean in shell ?
[07:52] <StevenK> Matt_Chen: It's an environment variable, so export DEBFULLNAME='Matthew Chen'
[07:52] <StevenK> You can also put that into .bashrc or .bash_profile
[07:53] <Matt_Chen> StevenK, thanks for that. :)
[08:27] <Matt_Chen> hi StevenK and wgrant, it is still the same
[08:27] <Matt_Chen> still complains me "linux@linux-HP-G6-Notebook-PC is not a valid email address"
[08:28] <StevenK> Did you rebuild the source package after changing debian/changelog?
[08:28] <Matt_Chen> StevenK, ah, wait.
[08:41] <Matt_Chen> StevenK, it is working fine to me now. After rebuild the source package with the changing debian/changelog. :)
[08:42] <Matt_Chen> wgrant, StevenK : thanks for both of your helping. :)
[08:43] <wgrant> Matt_Chen: Great :)
[09:34] <dupondje> http://redmine.audacious-media-player.org/issues/138 => we don't seem to support those upstream bugtrackers, but maby it would be cool if we can link to it
[10:20] <diwic> Hi! I'm getting an error which I don't understand - maybe my import has become corrupted somehow?
[10:20] <diwic> the error is AssertionError: Invalid sha for <Commit 98a9df60bf4b28bdab380371ad35d070263cf43c>: 6458acb5a31926dcc1295410221493544d628cf7"
[10:20] <diwic> and the branch is https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/alsa-driver/tiwai-trunk
[10:25] <czajkowski> jelmer: mgz vila could one of you look into diwic issue
[10:26] <jelmer> czajkowski: yep
[10:26] <jelmer> diwic: you're hitting bug 963525
[10:27] <jelmer> diwic: bzr-git hasn't yet been updated to support signed tags, and apparently your repository has some
[10:29] <diwic> jelmer, is there anything I can do to work around the issue
[10:29] <diwic> jelmer, like, run a command that would remove all signed tags or so
[10:32] <jelmer> diwic: actually, it's mergetags rather than signed tags
[10:32] <jelmer> (I've updated the bug)
[10:33] <jelmer> I'm not aware of an easy way to strip mergetags from commits; presumably you could script something using git-fast-export, but I've never tried.
[10:34] <diwic> jelmer, okay, maybe I could strip all tags
[10:34] <jelmer> diwic: I don't think that would help, this is the data that's in the existing Commit objects in the git repository
[10:34] <jelmer> it's worth a shot though, I guess
[10:35] <diwic> jelmer, do you have an ETA on when this is supposed to be fixed?
[10:35] <diwic> jelmer, if it's more than a few days I'll probably look into making workarounds
[10:36] <jelmer> diwic: it's not on the Launchpad roadmap at the moment as far as I know
[10:37] <diwic> jelmer, maybe I can get oem stakeholder to raise priority for it?
[10:37] <jelmer> diwic: yes, that would be a way to get it fixed
[10:38] <diwic> jelmer, this is a modified kernel tree so I would assume all kernel trees would be broken as well
[10:38] <diwic> (if they don't fall out due to OOM issues, but maybe you have fixed them)
[10:41] <jelmer> diwic: yes, there's quite a few more that are failing because it
[10:42] <jelmer> diwic: mergetags are a fairly recent feature in git, and are being used more often these days
[10:42] <jelmer> diwic: the OOM issues are all in the launchpad branch scanner, not bzr-git
[10:43] <jelmer> diwic: that bug has been escalated though - see bug 808930
[10:43] <diwic> jelmer, ok, thanks for the support so far. I'll see if I can raise priority for the bug 963525 as well somehow.
[16:27] <Tetracomm> Hello. Does anyone here have experience with tv tuner cards?
[16:37] <TheLordOfTime> Tetracomm:  if you're looking for support, try the channel for your OS
[19:36] <hellekin> wgrant: still no news from the support. Not even a notification. Do their system work at all?