bullgard6 | What is the preferred term? »inux kernel module« or »loadable Linux kernel module«? | 01:55 |
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bullgard6 | +L | 01:55 |
jk- | the first is fine. | 01:57 |
bullgard6 | jk-: Thank you. | 02:12 |
bullgard6 | '~$ modinfo bch; filename: /lib/modules/3.2.0-25-generic/kernel/lib/bch.ko; description: Binary BCH encoder/decoder.' What does »BCH« stand for? For »A forward error correction technique with low-overhead,often used for videoconferencing as in H.261«? | 02:37 |
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bullgard6 | '~$ modinfo bch; filename: /lib/modules/3.2.0-25-generic/kernel/lib/bch.ko; description: Binary BCH encoder/decoder.' What does »BCH« stand for? For »A forward error correction technique with low-overhead,often used for videoconferencing as in H.261«? | 08:28 |
philipballew | Do I report broadcom bugs with the kernel or are they separate? | 08:32 |
ehw | bullgard6: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BCH_code | 08:35 |
bullgard6 | ehw: Thank you very much for your help. | 08:52 |
ehw | bullgard6: np :-) | 08:57 |
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ppisati | ogra_: http://people.canonical.com/~ppisati/linux-image-3.4.0-202-omap4_3.4.0-202.7_armhf.deb | 12:14 |
ppisati | ogra_: test it and tell me if it fixes the video problem for you | 12:14 |
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bjf | brendand, is the precise kernel done with testing? | 13:24 |
brendand | bjf - pretty much. i'm just getting our report updated and updating the bug | 13:25 |
ogra_ | ppisati, oh, thanks, will do | 13:37 |
ppisati | ogra_: thanks | 13:37 |
ogra_ | ppisati, pgraner, the above kernel boots for me but i have a completely black screen until X | 14:01 |
ogra_ | so there is still an issue with plymouth ... but it looks a lot better already | 14:02 |
ogra_ | ppisati, i assume we should add the link to the bug so all these other peple can test it too (since the former kernel seemed to behave differently on a total random base) | 14:06 |
apw | ppisati, is the changed part in the kernel or in a module ? | 14:09 |
ogra_ | likely in kernel | 14:10 |
ogra_ | yep | 14:10 |
apw | knowing which tells me | 14:10 |
ogra_ | no module there | 14:10 |
apw | how little of the image i have to fook with | 14:10 |
apw | ok cool | 14:10 |
ogra_ | use the server image | 14:10 |
ogra_ | that way you can do the install via serial | 14:10 |
ogra_ | then you just need to dpkg -i the kernel | 14:10 |
apw | i thought that you didnt' get output till X started | 14:10 |
ogra_ | well, until plymouth ends i should probably have said | 14:11 |
ogra_ | i have all tty's | 14:11 |
apw | ok cool | 14:11 |
ogra_ | so i guess there is a plymouth issue alongside the kernel prob | 14:11 |
apw | yay fun | 14:12 |
ppisati | apw: ogra_: i pulled all the new code from tilt-tracking (TI landing tree) | 14:20 |
ppisati | kernel is still a 3.4 though | 14:20 |
ogra_ | thats fine | 14:20 |
ppisati | plus ubuntu sauce, etcetc | 14:20 |
ogra_ | still better than having to roll back to precise | 14:20 |
ogra_ | which was what was requested yesterday | 14:21 |
ppisati | no one told me that | 14:21 |
ppisati | here is the code: | 14:28 |
ppisati | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ppisati/ubuntu-quantal.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ti-omap4-next | 14:28 |
vanhoof | ogra_: what'cha want me to test out? | 14:42 |
* vanhoof just saw your mention in #ubuntu-release | 14:43 | |
ogra_ | vanhoof, do a server-preinstalled install (which is fully serial console based) then install paolos package and see if your tty comes up on next boot | 14:43 |
ogra_ | http://people.canonical.com/~ppisati/linux-image-3.4.0-202-omap4_3.4.0-202.7_armhf.deb | 14:43 |
* vanhoof downloads | 14:44 | |
* ppisati -> gym (back in ~2hrs) | 14:49 | |
* ogasawara back in 20 | 15:01 | |
cking | phew, it's hot and muggy here in the UK | 15:13 |
ogra_ | cking, not better in germany | 15:15 |
apw | cking, in better news my new 'silent laptop fan' is both pretty damn quiet and dropped the temp on my router/firewall from 53 to 40c. | 15:16 |
cking | apw, you did a fan upgrade? | 15:16 |
* ogra_ just bought a ´super silent desktop fan ... huge thing ! | 15:16 | |
apw | cking, no this is a usb connected 8in fan in a laptop stand, which its not standing on | 15:17 |
* cking opens the office roof windows a bit more | 15:17 | |
apw | ogra_, in better news ppisati's kernel sorted my panda out too | 15:20 |
ogra_ | apw, well, stgraber just reported failure in -release | 15:21 |
* apw can see VT1 for the first time, so its better here | 15:21 | |
apw | though the hdmi output is on the other connector to the one i was told it would be | 15:22 |
apw | that said its the first time i've ever seen output so i have no idea if its different | 15:22 |
stgraber | so, I have a whole bunch of tcp_recvmsg related oops, then I ran into an OOM kill | 15:23 |
ogra_ | its written next to the socket if you are in HDMI or DVI | 15:23 |
ogra_ | get your glasses ;) | 15:23 |
apw | ogra_, this board has two hdmi ports | 15:23 |
ogra_ | never | 15:23 |
ogra_ | HDMI next to the USB and DVI-D next to the corner | 15:23 |
ogra_ | ands that should also be written next to them on the PCB | 15:24 |
apw | hmmm, ok ... so you are right, the connectors are both hdmi | 15:24 |
ogra_ | right | 15:24 |
apw | and the one which is working is dvid | 15:24 |
ogra_ | funny, for me HDMI works here | 15:24 |
* ogra_ tries to boot plugged into the DVI one | 15:24 | |
apw | so his kernel has fixed that one | 15:24 |
ogra_ | yep | 15:25 |
stgraber | sadly that seems to have fixed itself and I can't get any proof of it but I think I saw most of my memory being used while nothing in userspace was using it, kind of looked like the kernel was buffering a bit too much or something like that | 15:25 |
ogra_ | do you have quiet and splash on your cmdline ? | 15:25 |
ogra_ | apw, ^^^ | 15:25 |
ogra_ | i would like to know if enabling splash changes anything for you | 15:25 |
* ogra_ suspects we also have a plymouth bug | 15:26 | |
apw | ogra_, whatever the default is for server i've not changed it | 15:26 |
ogra_ | ah, yeah, that should have splash | 15:26 |
apw | and now i have his kernel i have lost serial ? | 15:26 |
apw | or maybe i never had it after reboot after install hmmmmm | 15:27 |
ogra_ | /usr/share/flash-kernel/bootscript/bootscr.omap | 15:27 |
ogra_ | fix it there and run sudo flash-kernel | 15:27 |
apw | yeah like i can get to it without serial, or avahi to tell me its addy ... | 15:28 |
apw | why do we make it _so_ _hard_ by default | 15:28 |
ogra_ | thats a bug | 15:28 |
ogra_ | server should have serial on by default | 15:29 |
ogra_ | but preferably upstart should take care and not a hacked up boot.scr | 15:29 |
ogra_ | the bug for this is only open since three years now | 15:29 |
apw | ogra_, we could just upload the fix then | 15:29 |
stgraber | oh, found the source of my OOM :) /var/log/syslog got so big that the system no longer had any free memory | 15:30 |
apw | given we have been shipping the serial.conf with arm for much of that time | 15:30 |
apw | df | 15:30 |
ogra_ | https://code.launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/ubuntu/natty/upstart/add-serial-console/+merge/46191 | 15:30 |
apw | poke jhunt in the eye about it | 15:30 |
apw | i will cirtainly be finding him and whining about debugability | 15:31 |
ogra_ | i do, every time we meet ... and every time some nipicker kicks in right before the upload and screams "stop" | 15:31 |
apw | can't we put "arch == arm" in it to appease them | 15:31 |
ogra_ | its not as easy as it seemt to get a patch into ubuntu :P | 15:31 |
ogra_ | *seems | 15:31 |
apw | ogra_, whats my tty for serial ttyS0 ? | 15:33 |
ogra_ | O2 | 15:33 |
apw | ogra_, ok with quiet splash removed my HDMI port now works too | 15:35 |
ogra_ | wow, weird | 15:35 |
ogra_ | both ports should behave identical | 15:36 |
apw | perhaps there is some boot randomness in here | 15:36 |
* apw tests that theory | 15:36 | |
ogra_ | if you have quiet and splash enabled, do you actually see a splash on boot ? | 15:38 |
ogra_ | for me thats just a black screen until lightdm shows up | 15:38 |
apw | ogra_, no idea, as getting it to stay on dvi is hard on this monitor as i use it for my other machines on vga | 15:38 |
ogra_ | i do the same here | 15:38 |
ogra_ | get a better monitor :) | 15:39 |
apw | ogra_, send me some euros :) | 15:39 |
ogra_ | haha, i know who was betting on germany winning the EURO2012 ... if we win i will point you to him | 15:39 |
apw | can really say whats going on, hdmi is not reliable, plugging into dvi seems to work better | 15:40 |
ogra_ | for me both ports work reliable | 15:41 |
ogra_ | but without any splash output ... only on shtdown i get it | 15:41 |
apw | ok yeah black all the way to the prompt same here | 15:43 |
ogra_ | great+ | 15:43 |
ogra_ | so our bug was a combo ... it could well be that epople actually had a proper booting system, but casper (behind the spalsh) takes around 5min to get you to the desktop | 15:44 |
apw | ogra_, yeah and without serial you cannot tell that you have life | 15:45 |
ogra_ | right | 15:45 |
apw | all my boots had heartbeat, which i now know means root is moutned and working | 15:45 |
ogra_ | well, from next upload on it will beat from initrd again :) | 15:46 |
* apw thinks it would be nice if it beat different in each half :) | 15:46 | |
ogra_ | heh | 15:47 |
ogra_ | its easily programmable through GPIOs | 15:47 |
apw | cking, down to 39c, thats pretty good | 15:47 |
* cking grabs a bite to eat | 16:03 | |
vanhoof | ogra_: apw: new kernel got me to a tty on both hdmi and dvi-d | 16:24 |
ogra_ | great | 16:24 |
ogra_ | ppisati, so it seems to be good to upload that fix :) | 16:25 |
vanhoof | ogra_: I did have to remove quiet and splash though and rebuild my boot.scr | 16:25 |
ogra_ | can you re-add both and try again ? | 16:25 |
ogra_ | you should still end up at a login prompt but the boot will likely be black | 16:26 |
vanhoof | sure | 16:26 |
vanhoof | ogra_: black as expected, seemed to take a bit longer, might just be boredom of me looking at the screen :) | 16:31 |
ogra_ | but you get a login prompt at the end ? | 16:32 |
ppisati | so, do i pull req? | 16:40 |
ppisati | ogra_: ^ | 16:40 |
shadeslayer | question, any reason why CONFIG_DRM_I915 is not set as y ? | 16:40 |
shadeslayer | it's currently compiled as a module | 16:41 |
ogra_ | ppisati, yes, lets get that thing uploaded | 16:44 |
ppisati | ack | 16:44 |
vanhoof | ogra_: i do | 16:50 |
ogra_ | awesome, so bug 1018907 is valid too | 16:51 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1018907 in plymouth "plymouth in quantal on arm does only boot with black screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1018907 | 16:51 |
infinity | bjf: So, linux-firmware hasn't historically ever been updated in -security, only in -updates. Given that Tim updates it to match drivers in backports-modules, which we copy to security, perhaps firmware should also be copied to security? Opinion? | 16:57 |
infinity | ogasawara: ^ | 16:57 |
infinity | jdstrand: ^ | 16:57 |
bjf | infinity: makes sense to me | 16:58 |
ogasawara | infinity: copying to security would seem to make sense to me too | 16:58 |
infinity | jdstrand: Do you have a Security Team position for me on the linux-firmware updates business? | 17:27 |
ogra_ | you want to change teams ?!? | 17:28 |
ogra_ | :) | 17:28 |
infinity | ogra_: "A position from the Security Team"? :P | 17:28 |
ogra_ | *g* | 17:28 |
* infinity dies a little inside after having a German point out the ambiguity in his English. | 17:28 | |
ogra_ | lol | 17:29 |
ogra_ | come on i had a beer already in football preparation :) | 17:29 |
apw | it is toooo hot to be doing this ... /me wanders outside | 17:39 |
ogra_ | ppisati, sooo ... good luck for your team, may the better one win ;) | 17:40 |
* ogra_ is off ... | 17:40 | |
infinity | bjf / ogasawara: Kay, so I had a chat with mdeslaur about linux-firmware, and I'll be pushing the SRUs to security when I do updates. I think (prompted by his comments) that we should probably try to formalise linux-firmware updates a bit to make sure they stay in sync better, though. | 17:47 |
ogasawara | infinity: ack, I will add it as a topic for our team sprint | 17:48 |
infinity | ogasawara: Danke. It's a bit sad how out-of-date these firmware updates are. Part of that falls on the SRU team, to be sure, but some more input from you guys wouldn't hurt. | 17:49 |
infinity | Anyhow, I'll tidy that situation up as best I can today, and we'll see if we can improve process later. | 17:49 |
infinity | bjf / ogasawara: Alright, I've released all the pending linux-firmware packages (based on either the firmware being completely new, or on the new version of firmware being confirmed to fix a bug) to updates/security. No idea if you guys watch l-f as closely as you watch the kernel for regressions, but please keep an eye out for scary. ;) | 17:59 |
ogasawara | jsalisbury: can you keep an eye on linux-firmware for a bit? ^^ | 18:00 |
infinity | bjf: And I think that clears our your team's entire SRU backlog, except for the aforementioned ARM kernels. | 18:01 |
* cking calls it a day, too hot | 18:01 | |
infinity | cking: Didn't apw just say the same thing? | 18:02 |
infinity | cking: You guys need to move to a cooler climate. | 18:02 |
cking | heh, this is the first hot day of the UK summer, we can't hackit | 18:02 |
infinity | cking: Don't worry, it'll rain soon. | 18:03 |
cking | infinity, that is for sure in the UK | 18:03 |
bjf | cking, you'll be in the pacific-nw soon, will be cooler then | 18:05 |
bjf | infinity: ack, thanks | 18:05 |
* cking opens all the windows to try to simulate air conditioning | 18:07 | |
infinity | bjf: Sprinting in Portland? | 18:08 |
bjf | infinity: yup | 18:08 |
infinity | bjf: And no one thought to invite me? For shame. | 18:09 |
infinity | ogasawara: </3 | 18:09 |
ogasawara | infinity: I thought you had a restraining order against me after our last encounter :) | 18:09 |
infinity | Oh, I'm mostly over that. ;) | 18:09 |
infinity | Mostly. | 18:09 |
infinity | *stare* | 18:09 |
ogasawara | heh | 18:09 |
shadeslayer | ok, so I'm compiling the stock 3.5 rc4 kernel with a custom config and make-kpkg, and I get this : dpkg-gencontrol: error: illegal package name 'linux-image-3.5.0-rc4stock-ARCH': character 'A' not allowed | 18:35 |
shadeslayer | ideas? | 18:35 |
shadeslayer | command I used was : fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=stock kernel-image kernel-headers | 18:36 |
shadeslayer | halp? | 18:46 |
jsalisbury | ogasawara, ack | 18:48 |
dileks_ | shadeslayer: seen link in topic? | 18:49 |
dileks_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel | 18:49 |
shadeslayer | dileks_: ok, and could you point me to the rc4 source with the debian packaging? | 18:51 |
kirkland | can overlayfs use blockdevices for lower and/or upper? | 18:56 |
kirkland | or does it have to use a filesystem? | 18:56 |
ogasawara | ppisati: I take it the ti-omap4 3.4.0-202.7 need uploading as well? | 18:59 |
dileks_ | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-quantal.git;a=summary | 19:00 |
dileks_ | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=M;O=D | 19:00 |
dileks_ | shadeslayer: ^^ | 19:00 |
shadeslayer | aha | 19:01 |
shadeslayer | ok | 19:01 |
shadeslayer | thanks dileks_ | 19:01 |
jdstrand | infinity: sorry I wasn't available when you asked (I'm on holiday today). I see you and mdeslaur talked, and I'll defer to his decision | 19:05 |
infinity | jdstrand: Good deal. | 19:14 |
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