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bullgard6What is the preferred term? »inux kernel module« or »loadable Linux kernel module«?01:55
bullgard6+L01:55
jk-the first is fine.01:57
bullgard6jk-: Thank you.02:12
bullgard6'~$ modinfo bch; filename:   /lib/modules/3.2.0-25-generic/kernel/lib/bch.ko; description:    Binary BCH encoder/decoder.' What does  »BCH« stand for? For »A forward error correction technique with low-overhead,often used for videoconferencing as in H.261«?02:37
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bullgard6'~$ modinfo bch; filename: /lib/modules/3.2.0-25-generic/kernel/lib/bch.ko; description:  Binary BCH encoder/decoder.' What does  »BCH« stand for? For »A forward error correction technique with low-overhead,often used for videoconferencing as in H.261«?08:28
philipballewDo I report broadcom bugs with the kernel or are they separate?08:32
ehwbullgard6: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BCH_code08:35
bullgard6ehw: Thank you very much for your help.08:52
ehwbullgard6: np :-)08:57
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ppisatiogra_: http://people.canonical.com/~ppisati/linux-image-3.4.0-202-omap4_3.4.0-202.7_armhf.deb12:14
ppisatiogra_: test it and tell me if it fixes the video problem for you12:14
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bjfbrendand, is the precise kernel done with testing?13:24
brendandbjf - pretty much. i'm just getting our report updated and updating the bug13:25
ogra_ppisati, oh, thanks, will do13:37
ppisatiogra_: thanks13:37
ogra_ppisati, pgraner, the above kernel boots for me but i have a completely black screen until X 14:01
ogra_so there is still an issue with plymouth ... but it looks a lot better already14:02
ogra_ppisati, i assume we should add the link to the bug so all these other peple can test it too (since the former kernel seemed to behave differently on a total random base)14:06
apwppisati, is the changed part in the kernel or in a module ?14:09
ogra_likely in kernel14:10
ogra_yep14:10
apwknowing which tells me 14:10
ogra_no module there14:10
apwhow little of the image i have to fook with14:10
apwok cool14:10
ogra_use the server image 14:10
ogra_that way you can do the install via serial14:10
ogra_then you just need to dpkg -i the kernel14:10
apwi thought that you didnt' get output till X started14:10
ogra_well, until plymouth ends i should probably have said14:11
ogra_i have all tty's14:11
apwok cool14:11
ogra_so i guess there is a plymouth issue alongside the kernel prob14:11
apwyay fun14:12
ppisatiapw: ogra_: i pulled all the new code from tilt-tracking (TI landing tree)14:20
ppisatikernel is still a 3.4 though14:20
ogra_thats fine14:20
ppisatiplus ubuntu sauce, etcetc14:20
ogra_still better than having to roll back to precise 14:20
ogra_which was what was requested yesterday14:21
ppisatino one told me that14:21
ppisatihere is the code:14:28
ppisatihttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ppisati/ubuntu-quantal.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ti-omap4-next14:28
vanhoofogra_: what'cha want me to test out?14:42
* vanhoof just saw your mention in #ubuntu-release14:43
ogra_vanhoof, do a server-preinstalled install (which is fully serial console based) then install paolos package and see if your tty comes up on next boot14:43
ogra_http://people.canonical.com/~ppisati/linux-image-3.4.0-202-omap4_3.4.0-202.7_armhf.deb14:43
* vanhoof downloads14:44
* ppisati -> gym (back in ~2hrs)14:49
* ogasawara back in 2015:01
ckingphew, it's hot and muggy here in the UK15:13
ogra_cking, not better in germany 15:15
apwcking, in better news my new 'silent laptop fan' is both pretty damn quiet and dropped the temp on my router/firewall from 53 to 40c.15:16
ckingapw, you did a fan upgrade?15:16
* ogra_ just bought a ´super silent desktop fan ... huge thing !15:16
apwcking, no this is a usb connected 8in fan in a laptop stand, which its not standing on15:17
* cking opens the office roof windows a bit more15:17
apwogra_, in better news ppisati's kernel sorted my panda out too15:20
ogra_apw, well, stgraber just reported failure in -release15:21
* apw can see VT1 for the first time, so its better here15:21
apwthough the hdmi output is on the other connector to the one i was told it would be15:22
apwthat said its the first time i've ever seen output so i have no idea if its different15:22
stgraberso, I have a whole bunch of tcp_recvmsg related oops, then I ran into an OOM kill15:23
ogra_its written next to the socket if you are in HDMI or DVI 15:23
ogra_get your glasses ;)15:23
apwogra_, this board has two hdmi ports15:23
ogra_never15:23
ogra_HDMI next to the USB and DVI-D next to the corner15:23
ogra_ands that should also be written next to them on the PCB15:24
apwhmmm, ok ... so you are right, the connectors are both hdmi15:24
ogra_right15:24
apwand the one which is working is dvid15:24
ogra_funny, for me HDMI works here 15:24
* ogra_ tries to boot plugged into the DVI one15:24
apwso his kernel has fixed that one15:24
ogra_yep15:25
stgrabersadly that seems to have fixed itself and I can't get any proof of it but I think I saw most of my memory being used while nothing in userspace was using it, kind of looked like the kernel was buffering a bit too much or something like that15:25
ogra_do you have quiet and splash on your cmdline ?15:25
ogra_apw, ^^^15:25
ogra_i would like to know if enabling splash changes anything for you 15:25
* ogra_ suspects we also have a plymouth bug 15:26
apwogra_, whatever the default is for server i've not changed it15:26
ogra_ah, yeah, that should have splash 15:26
apwand now i have his kernel i have lost serial ?15:26
apwor maybe i never had it after reboot after install hmmmmm15:27
ogra_ /usr/share/flash-kernel/bootscript/bootscr.omap15:27
ogra_fix it there and run sudo flash-kernel15:27
apwyeah like i can get to it without serial, or avahi to tell me its addy ... 15:28
apwwhy do we make it _so_ _hard_ by default15:28
ogra_thats a bug 15:28
ogra_server should have serial on by default 15:29
ogra_but preferably upstart should take care and not a hacked up boot.scr15:29
ogra_the bug for this is only open since three years now15:29
apwogra_, we could just upload the fix then15:29
stgraberoh, found the source of my OOM :) /var/log/syslog got so big that the system no longer had any free memory15:30
apwgiven we have been shipping the serial.conf with arm for much of that time15:30
apwdf15:30
ogra_https://code.launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/ubuntu/natty/upstart/add-serial-console/+merge/4619115:30
apwpoke jhunt in the eye about it15:30
apwi will cirtainly be finding him and whining about debugability15:31
ogra_i do, every time we meet ... and every time some nipicker kicks in right before the upload and screams "stop"15:31
apwcan't we put "arch == arm" in it to appease them15:31
ogra_its not as easy as it seemt to get a patch into ubuntu :P15:31
ogra_*seems15:31
apwogra_, whats my tty for serial ttyS0 ?15:33
ogra_O215:33
apwogra_, ok with quiet splash removed my HDMI port now works too15:35
ogra_wow, weird15:35
ogra_both ports should behave identical 15:36
apwperhaps there is some boot randomness in here15:36
* apw tests that theory15:36
ogra_if you have quiet and splash enabled, do you actually see a splash on boot ?15:38
ogra_for me thats just a black screen until lightdm shows up15:38
apwogra_, no idea, as getting it to stay on dvi is hard on this monitor as i use it for my other machines on vga15:38
ogra_i do the same here 15:38
ogra_get a better monitor :)15:39
apwogra_, send me some euros :)15:39
ogra_haha, i know who was betting on germany winning the EURO2012 ... if we win i will point you to him 15:39
apwcan really say whats going on, hdmi is not reliable, plugging into dvi seems to work better15:40
ogra_for me both ports work reliable 15:41
ogra_but without any splash output ... only on shtdown i get it15:41
apwok yeah black all the way to the prompt same here15:43
ogra_great+15:43
ogra_so our bug was a combo ... it could well be that epople actually had a proper booting system, but casper (behind the spalsh) takes around 5min to get you to the desktop15:44
apwogra_, yeah and without serial you cannot tell that you have life15:45
ogra_right15:45
apwall my boots had heartbeat, which i now know means root is moutned and working15:45
ogra_well, from next upload on it will beat from initrd again :)15:46
* apw thinks it would be nice if it beat different in each half :)15:46
ogra_heh15:47
ogra_its easily programmable through GPIOs15:47
apwcking, down to 39c, thats pretty good15:47
* cking grabs a bite to eat16:03
vanhoofogra_: apw: new kernel got me to a tty on both hdmi and dvi-d16:24
ogra_great16:24
ogra_ppisati, so it seems to be good to upload that fix :)16:25
vanhoofogra_: I did have to remove quiet and splash though and rebuild my boot.scr16:25
ogra_can you re-add both and try again ?16:25
ogra_you should still end up at a login prompt but the boot will likely be black16:26
vanhoofsure16:26
vanhoofogra_: black as expected, seemed to take a bit longer, might just be boredom of me looking at the screen :)16:31
ogra_but you get a login prompt at the end ? 16:32
ppisatiso, do i pull req?16:40
ppisatiogra_: ^16:40
shadeslayerquestion, any reason why CONFIG_DRM_I915 is not set as y ?16:40
shadeslayerit's currently compiled as a module16:41
ogra_ppisati, yes, lets get that thing uploaded16:44
ppisatiack16:44
vanhoofogra_: i do16:50
ogra_awesome, so bug 1018907 is valid too16:51
ubot2Launchpad bug 1018907 in plymouth "plymouth in quantal on arm does only boot with black screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101890716:51
infinitybjf: So, linux-firmware hasn't historically ever been updated in -security, only in -updates.  Given that Tim updates it to match drivers in backports-modules, which we copy to security, perhaps firmware should also be copied to security?  Opinion?16:57
infinityogasawara: ^16:57
infinityjdstrand: ^16:57
bjfinfinity: makes sense to me16:58
ogasawarainfinity: copying to security would seem to make sense to me too16:58
infinityjdstrand: Do you have a Security Team position for me on the linux-firmware updates business?17:27
ogra_you want to change teams ?!?17:28
ogra_:)17:28
infinityogra_: "A position from the Security Team"? :P17:28
ogra_*g*17:28
* infinity dies a little inside after having a German point out the ambiguity in his English.17:28
ogra_lol17:29
ogra_come on i had a beer already in football preparation :)17:29
apwit is toooo hot to be doing this ... /me wanders outside17:39
ogra_ppisati, sooo ... good luck for your team, may the better one win ;) 17:40
* ogra_ is off ... 17:40
infinitybjf / ogasawara: Kay, so I had a chat with mdeslaur about linux-firmware, and I'll be pushing the SRUs to security when I do updates.  I think (prompted by his comments) that we should probably try to formalise linux-firmware updates a bit to make sure they stay in sync better, though.17:47
ogasawarainfinity: ack, I will add it as a topic for our team sprint17:48
infinityogasawara: Danke.  It's a bit sad how out-of-date these firmware updates are.  Part of that falls on the SRU team, to be sure, but some more input from you guys wouldn't hurt.17:49
infinityAnyhow, I'll tidy that situation up as best I can today, and we'll see if we can improve process later.17:49
infinitybjf / ogasawara: Alright, I've released all the pending linux-firmware packages (based on either the firmware being completely new, or on the new version of firmware being confirmed to fix a bug) to updates/security.  No idea if you guys watch l-f as closely as you watch the kernel for regressions, but please keep an eye out for scary. ;)17:59
ogasawarajsalisbury: can you keep an eye on linux-firmware for a bit? ^^18:00
infinitybjf: And I think that clears our your team's entire SRU backlog, except for the aforementioned ARM kernels.18:01
* cking calls it a day, too hot18:01
infinitycking: Didn't apw just say the same thing?18:02
infinitycking: You guys need to move to a cooler climate.18:02
ckingheh, this is the first hot day of the UK summer, we can't hackit18:02
infinitycking: Don't worry, it'll rain soon.18:03
ckinginfinity, that is for sure in the UK18:03
bjfcking, you'll be in the pacific-nw soon, will be cooler then18:05
bjfinfinity: ack, thanks18:05
* cking opens all the windows to try to simulate air conditioning18:07
infinitybjf: Sprinting in Portland?18:08
bjfinfinity: yup18:08
infinitybjf: And no one thought to invite me?  For shame.18:09
infinityogasawara: </318:09
ogasawarainfinity: I thought you had a restraining order against me after our last encounter :)18:09
infinityOh, I'm mostly over that. ;)18:09
infinityMostly.18:09
infinity*stare*18:09
ogasawaraheh18:09
shadeslayerok, so I'm compiling the stock 3.5 rc4 kernel with a custom config and make-kpkg, and I get this : dpkg-gencontrol: error: illegal package name 'linux-image-3.5.0-rc4stock-ARCH': character 'A' not allowed18:35
shadeslayerideas?18:35
shadeslayercommand I used was :  fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=stock kernel-image kernel-headers  18:36
shadeslayerhalp?18:46
jsalisburyogasawara, ack18:48
dileks_shadeslayer: seen link in topic?18:49
dileks_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel18:49
shadeslayerdileks_: ok, and could you point me to the rc4 source with the debian packaging?18:51
kirklandcan overlayfs use blockdevices for lower and/or upper?18:56
kirklandor does it have to use a filesystem?18:56
ogasawarappisati: I take it the ti-omap4 3.4.0-202.7 need uploading as well?18:59
dileks_http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-quantal.git;a=summary19:00
dileks_http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=M;O=D19:00
dileks_shadeslayer: ^^19:00
shadeslayeraha19:01
shadeslayerok19:01
shadeslayerthanks dileks_19:01
jdstrandinfinity: sorry I wasn't available when you asked (I'm on holiday today). I see you and mdeslaur talked, and I'll defer to his decision19:05
infinityjdstrand: Good deal.19:14
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