| Blazeix | waldo323: http://mathematicsforstudents.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/problem.jpg?w=593 | 00:00 |
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| derekv | cars about an inch shorter | 00:09 |
| derekv | maybe a few | 00:09 |
| snap-l | greg-g: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/lrbYgGlCKB0B5FRjzF7Q/ | 00:13 |
| rick_h_ | derekv: http://pyvideo.org/video/529/pyohio-2011--creating-web-apis-that-are-a-joy-to- | 01:51 |
| snap-l | greg-g: had a follow-up conversation that mat be promising. :) | 02:47 |
| snap-l | may, rather | 02:47 |
| rick_h_ | ok, so a de-duper script was a crap ton easier to write | 03:53 |
| rick_h_ | now if it'd just finish running on the live site kthx | 03:53 |
| snap-l | ;) | 03:56 |
| rick_h_ | ok, so took a minute to run, but deduped 600 bookmarks | 03:56 |
| rick_h_ | combined tags, thanks for the suggestion/idea | 03:56 |
| rick_h_ | Ordered a nexus 7, derekv's got me all interested in mobile ui's and I've got a phone so need to see the tablet ui. | 03:57 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: don't kick me :P | 04:13 |
| derekv | haha | 04:14 |
| derekv | i don't even have a tablet | 04:15 |
| rick_h_ | I had to try out an event so setup one for CHC and invited snap-l | 04:15 |
| rick_h_ | so now I'll get a boot, gotta watch out | 04:15 |
| rick_h_ | derekv: yea, you got me really thinking a cool two pane webui with left list, readable scrolling content on the right | 04:15 |
| derekv | I consider it inevidable I just have fun seeing how long I can put it off | 04:15 |
| rick_h_ | can do it for the normal desktop view | 04:15 |
| derekv | thats why I wondered about setting up views that are themselves components ... | 04:16 |
| rick_h_ | yea | 04:16 |
| rick_h_ | in the webui I can have Views compose of other views | 04:16 |
| rick_h_ | so I'll head down that path and see if I can get something cool and two paned. Keep the tag filter up top and you can filter on toread to just limit the list/scroll through | 04:17 |
| derekv | Yea. obviously not a new idea just need to see how it plays out with android native ... could be good stuff | 04:17 |
| rick_h_ | anyway, good price point and want to setup a yeti cluster for my JS tests anyway. | 04:17 |
| rick_h_ | exactly, I'm not sure how deep into Java I can get, ugh I'm not a fan, but if it's what's required might end up that way as the web setup/api stabailized | 04:18 |
| rick_h_ | one day I'll do something cool on there that'll make it popular and hack on it full time :P | 04:18 |
| Blazeix | heh, my friend with the retina macbook got X running: http://andy753421.ath.cx/temp/mbp.png | 04:18 |
| derekv | its better using java in the android context then it is in the web context... well thats just my current opinion | 04:19 |
| derekv | but I'm not a fan of java either | 04:19 |
| rick_h_ | hah! yea, there was a mockup of unity on the retina display and the icons on the left were barely clickable | 04:19 |
| rick_h_ | oh yea, I can't ever see doing the web stuff with it, I could see getting interested in it for android dev though | 04:19 |
| rick_h_ | but I am a big Web > * person usually, and chrome ootb by default is a big win | 04:20 |
| derekv | I wish they hadn't chosen it for android | 04:20 |
| derekv | between it and obj-c its a toss up which is worse, pros and cons | 04:20 |
| rick_h_ | meh, I hear Obj-C has some big warts as well | 04:20 |
| rick_h_ | but yea, I understand the decision though | 04:20 |
| derekv | yes... yes it does | 04:20 |
| rick_h_ | the webos model is my dream | 04:20 |
| rick_h_ | and now I guess boot2gecko | 04:20 |
| rick_h_ | but go look and you're not going to win users/$$ working on that | 04:21 |
| rick_h_ | not for a long while at least | 04:21 |
| derekv | nah | 04:22 |
| rick_h_ | bah widox forgot to bring out the MS mice, had them in the backpack tonight | 04:22 |
| derekv | well who knows right? but i'm not banking on it | 04:22 |
| rick_h_ | yea, /me goes on dreaming | 04:23 |
| derekv | you can see in the android design where they had this idea of an ecosystem of apps and componants | 04:25 |
| derekv | like how you have with linux and a package manager | 04:26 |
| derekv | perhaps not to that extent | 04:26 |
| derekv | but how in reality not many are going to put an app in the store that the user has to also have some other 3rd party things installed | 04:26 |
| derekv | idk ... time for bed | 04:27 |
| rick_h_ | zzzz | 04:30 |
| snap-l | Morning | 10:42 |
| snap-l | Blazeix: That screenshot is awesome. :) | 10:43 |
| snap-l | Subject: | 10:43 |
| snap-l | Re: Question:Programming a game grid ... | 10:44 |
| snap-l | My 1980s self would have loved to program a game grid, but then would have felt guilty for all of the programs that were derezzed. | 10:44 |
| snap-l | http://openmetalcast.com/2012/06/28/open-metalcast-special-episode-club-metal-11/ | 11:48 |
| shakes808 | errrrr morning | 11:50 |
| snap-l | morning. :) | 11:51 |
| rick_h_ | morn | 11:55 |
| rick_h_ | closed up all the shades, house is on over heat lock down | 11:56 |
| nullspace | moring | 12:14 |
| jrwren | obj-c is awesome | 12:35 |
| rick_h_ | heh, I"ve not used it so I'll hold back judgement...but I hear stories :) | 12:35 |
| jrwren | its really nice once you settle into it. | 12:37 |
| jrwren | i found settling into obj-c more comfortable than settling into python | 12:37 |
| jrwren | but I think that is because there are no standards in objc, you just write code and no one cares AFAICT | 12:37 |
| jrwren | but in python you should be pythonic so that is much more challenging | 12:38 |
| jrwren | but to compare to java its no contest. | 12:38 |
| rick_h_ | you're failing to convince me lol | 12:38 |
| jrwren | i'm not trying. | 12:38 |
| widox | rick_h_: oh right! maybe next time | 12:40 |
| rick_h_ | widox: yea, big duh on my part. | 12:40 |
| brousch | I am scumbag open source advocate for a while. Advocates Linux, uses OSX | 12:41 |
| brousch | I need 8GB of RAM to work in Eclipse for Android. The MBP is my only 8GB machine. I can't get external monitors working under Linux on the MBP, so I'm stuck in OSX | 12:43 |
| snap-l | brousch: Cry me a river. | 13:11 |
| brousch | I thought I just did | 13:13 |
| jrwren | brousch: you are an open source advocate? | 13:19 |
| brousch | I advocate open source, so yes | 13:20 |
| rick_h_ | https://developers.google.com/live/shows/ahNzfmdvb2dsZS1kZXZlbG9wZXJzcg4LEgVFdmVudBj3gtcCDA/ is kind of cool for web devs though the speakers are a bit patronizing | 13:25 |
| jrwren | is that where they are showing shadow dom? | 13:26 |
| rick_h_ | yea | 13:26 |
| jrwren | I couldn't understand what they were doing with shadow dom | 13:26 |
| jrwren | I was watching it live yesterday and I just didn't see the point | 13:26 |
| rick_h_ | I think their <video> tag was a good example | 13:26 |
| rick_h_ | making google search work better is a big part :) | 13:27 |
| rick_h_ | but I think the idea of putting work into standard UI components at the dom like this is a good thing | 13:27 |
| jrwren | is vagrant kind of like juju, just focused on development boxes? | 13:30 |
| rick_h_ | http://mozilla.github.com/x-tag/ looks like | 13:30 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: I guess, kind of hard to compare something starting/handling machines vs installing/running software packages | 13:31 |
| jrwren | Maas then? | 13:32 |
| snap-l | btw: Club Metal #11 is out | 13:32 |
| jrwren | i should probably just go use each of them, but I don't have the time :( | 13:32 |
| rick_h_ | no, I think you're ok. You can do 'recipes' of machines/config and such with vagrant so I guess it's not too far off from a juju type thing, but without the additional logic of tying together bits | 13:50 |
| rick_h_ | right, you dno't vagrant up mysql-dev | 13:50 |
| rick_h_ | vagrant up mysql-dev and start them sync'ing | 13:50 |
| rick_h_ | you'd have a recipe for two mysql machines setup to sync and can pass it around | 13:50 |
| snap-l | I <3 Python's kawrgs | 13:54 |
| snap-l | just took out a bunch of redundant typo-making arguments | 13:55 |
| rick_h_ | don't go crazy with them | 13:55 |
| rick_h_ | but yea, darn handy sometimes | 13:55 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: I know. With great power comes great responsibility | 13:55 |
| snap-l | but I just cut out a bunch of stuff for a SQLAlchemy model | 13:55 |
| rick_h_ | yea | 13:56 |
| snap-l | 29 arguments with an init method to to self.foo = foo is not fun | 13:56 |
| rick_h_ | right | 13:56 |
| snap-l | Thank you for the tip | 13:56 |
| rick_h_ | np, glad it's helped | 13:56 |
| brousch | OK, wow, OSX Lion comes with Python2.5.6, Python2.6.7, and Python2.7.1 pre-installed | 14:09 |
| brousch | The 2.5 and 2.6 are actually newer than the newest binary releases you can download from Python.org | 14:09 |
| nullspace | wow trying to get an OSX VM setup, what pita | 15:06 |
| brousch | Is there even an osX license compatible with running in a VM? | 15:09 |
| nullspace | there are a bunch of articles on setting one up | 15:10 |
| nullspace | have yet to follow one with any success | 15:10 |
| brousch | Are you trying to run a OSX VM on oSX, or one something else? | 15:13 |
| brousch | Running it without Apple hardware will awaken Zombie Steve Jobs to hunt you down and eat your soul | 15:13 |
| nullspace | I've got a demo crowbar with his name on it | 15:16 |
| nullspace | brousch: it's booting, it's alive, it's alive muhahahahaha | 15:17 |
| nullspace | no lightening needed | 15:17 |
| nullspace | speaking of which I'm not seeing anything on the radar, are these clouds suppose to rapidly coalesce above us? | 15:21 |
| snap-l | nullspace: I think they'll be popcorn storms | 15:23 |
| snap-l | cold-front hasn't hit us yet | 15:23 |
| rick_h_ | come on cold-front! | 15:24 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: It'll be pretty weak | 15:24 |
| snap-l | we're still supposed to hit 90+F tomorrow | 15:24 |
| rick_h_ | nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo | 15:24 |
| snap-l | http://www.wunderground.com/US/MI/Royal_Oak.html | 15:24 |
| rick_h_ | *sigh* http://www.weather.com/weather/5-day/Portland+OR+USOR0275:1:US | 15:24 |
| nullspace | and now I have a pinwheel of doom..damn it | 15:26 |
| brousch | nullspace: That means it's working normally | 15:28 |
| jrwren | OSX runs in a VM on OSX. so inside parallel or vmware | 15:33 |
| snap-l | jrwren: eh? | 15:34 |
| jrwren | answering brousch's question. | 15:34 |
| jrwren | you are allowed to run OSX in a VM as long as it is on OSX on apple hardware | 15:35 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Right, I got that. What's this about it running in a VM? | 15:35 |
| jrwren | nullspace is trying to do it. can you not read up? | 15:35 |
| snap-l | jrwren: OSX runs in a VM on OSX. | 15:35 |
| snap-l | The way I initally read it was "OSX runs in a VM on a Mac" | 15:36 |
| snap-l | and that didn't compute. | 15:36 |
| jrwren | oh! no, i did not mean that. | 15:36 |
| nullspace | linux host running virtual box trying run OSX | 15:37 |
| jrwren | yeah... don't do that. | 15:38 |
| derekv | someones going to portland? | 15:43 |
| rick_h_ | derekv: I'm trying to talk the wife into moving there | 15:43 |
| derekv | I know a couple people there | 15:43 |
| rick_h_ | something about "re-estabilishing a medical practice isn't easy, and family, and it's far away" keeps getting in the way | 15:43 |
| snap-l | That and paying for exterminators to get the hippies out of the hose. | 15:44 |
| snap-l | house | 15:44 |
| jrwren | don't leave MI. | 15:45 |
| jrwren | we need you rick_h_ | 15:45 |
| jrwren | if you want a better quality of life, just move to AA | 15:45 |
| derekv | ortechie | 15:45 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: see weather.com link above | 15:46 |
| derekv | rick_h_: the video you linked to gave me a good starting point | 15:46 |
| rick_h_ | derekv: ? | 15:46 |
| rick_h_ | oh oh right, the api thing | 15:46 |
| derekv | yea | 15:46 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I mean it wasn't an amazing talk, but it got my brain going hard core | 15:46 |
| derekv | i'm listening to your questions now =] | 15:47 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: ha! yeah... but you also get hte pac nw cloud and rain. | 15:48 |
| jrwren | and no seasons. | 15:48 |
| jrwren | i like watching hte leaves turn and death of winter and rebirth in spring. | 15:49 |
| derekv | i thought it was rainy all the time | 15:49 |
| derekv | and humid | 15:49 |
| derekv | not so good bike weather | 15:49 |
| Blazeix | yeah, i thought portland was known for having terrible weather. | 15:49 |
| Blazeix | where terrible = rainy for 7 months | 15:49 |
| rick_h_ | derekv: it's great for biking! very bike friendly! | 15:49 |
| brousch | Weather is not a problem if you don't go outside | 15:49 |
| rick_h_ | it's listed in something like one of the 5 best biking cities I thought | 15:50 |
| jrwren | anyone ever install remOcular? | 15:50 |
| derekv | brousch: until we have power outage | 15:50 |
| derekv | waiting for that | 15:50 |
| derekv | putting my chips are on 3~4pm today | 15:51 |
| derekv | 4 days no power. | 15:51 |
| derekv | i wonder if I grilled meat and salted the hell out of it how long it'd be good without refrigeration | 15:52 |
| rick_h_ | http://www.bicycling.com/ride-maps/featured-rides/1-portland-or | 15:52 |
| rick_h_ | boom! | 15:53 |
| derekv | kk | 15:53 |
| rick_h_ | not even top 5, but #1 for 2012 | 15:53 |
| krondor | rick_h_: have you been watching portlandia? I'm not sure if that show does more to help or hurt a desire to move there. | 15:57 |
| jrwren | haha, it helped | 15:57 |
| rick_h_ | krondor: my wife keeps saying I must watch it | 15:57 |
| jrwren | portlandia totally made me want to move to portland | 15:58 |
| jrwren | you must watch it. | 15:58 |
| krondor | living in a 90's microcosm would be interesting that's for sure :) | 15:58 |
| jrwren | portlandia is the best show on teevee | 15:58 |
| jrwren | the dream of the 90s is still alive in portland | 15:58 |
| rick_h_ | yea, that's her line she likes to throw at me | 15:58 |
| jrwren | krondor: have you read ... ? | 15:59 |
| krondor | haha that skit is gold, so many people like that. | 16:00 |
| krondor | I might be a bit guilty there | 16:00 |
| rick_h_ | lmao, sorry but this is funny https://twitter.com/nadiaoxford/status/218356908371873792 | 16:01 |
| ColonelPanic001 | sssshhh | 16:32 |
| ColonelPanic001 | let them go | 16:32 |
| ColonelPanic001 | they'll figure it out too late | 16:32 |
| ColonelPanic001 | "...and here's your Health Canada card!" "My what?" "Oooooh... you're going to be upset. Maybe you should sit down before I explain" | 16:32 |
| snap-l | Yeah, and when they realize Rush _doesn't_ mean Rush Limbaugh, they'll be really pissed. | 16:33 |
| ColonelPanic001 | haha | 16:33 |
| derekv | I misunderstood what I was supposed to be doing ... i'm supposed to design the API for the client , not write up a best practices document | 17:11 |
| snap-l | derekv: Oh, lovely. | 17:13 |
| derekv | it is actually =] | 17:14 |
| derekv | but thats a bigger job | 17:15 |
| derekv | the project got created without a gitignore | 17:20 |
| derekv | so i have to retroactivly correct that as well | 17:20 |
| rick_h_ | woot! | 17:37 |
| rick_h_ | at least you get to do it then | 17:37 |
| rick_h_ | there you go iOS lovers, have some chrome love | 17:37 |
| rick_h_ | chrome yummy, this is almost more yummy to me than yesterday | 17:38 |
| brousch | eh? | 17:40 |
| rick_h_ | google IO keynote day 2 | 17:41 |
| rick_h_ | you mean you're not all just glued to your screen for Chrome/Docs/Drive news? | 17:41 |
| brousch | Ah geez | 17:42 |
| rick_h_ | chromebooks in best buy | 17:42 |
| rick_h_ | now we'll see what the market says | 17:42 |
| brousch | You know what's sad? On OSX I actually have a Google-provided Drive client | 17:42 |
| rick_h_ | yea, they announced iOS Chrome coming today | 17:43 |
| rick_h_ | all the demos'equipment on stage is apple laptops | 17:43 |
| derekv | thats confusing | 17:43 |
| rick_h_ | how so? | 17:44 |
| rick_h_ | what's crazy is his "other devices" list in chrome has laptop, desktop, android phone, android tablet, iphone, ipad | 17:44 |
| rick_h_ | "MOAR TABS!!!" | 17:45 |
| derekv | iOS chrome is? | 17:45 |
| derekv | chrome vs chromebook is confusing | 17:45 |
| derekv | for one | 17:45 |
| derekv | java javascript | 17:45 |
| derekv | ham hamburger | 17:45 |
| rick_h_ | heh | 17:45 |
| derekv | also because chrome means something else relevent to browsers as well | 17:46 |
| brousch | chrome/chromium/chromeos/chromiumos | 17:46 |
| derekv | mozilla has a chrome | 17:46 |
| derekv | don't forget | 17:46 |
| rick_h_ | here comes google's cloud | 17:46 |
| rick_h_ | IaaS offering 'Compute Engine' | 17:47 |
| rick_h_ | look out ec2 | 17:47 |
| brousch | Google App Engine? | 17:47 |
| rick_h_ | no, linux OS | 17:47 |
| rick_h_ | like ec2 | 17:47 |
| brousch | I'm sure GAE runs on Linux | 17:47 |
| rick_h_ | so not PaaS, but IaaS | 17:47 |
| rick_h_ | right, but think "with root" | 17:47 |
| brousch | No one wants that | 17:48 |
| rick_h_ | heh, some people do | 17:48 |
| brousch | Sorry, wandered in troll territory again | 17:48 |
| rick_h_ | Gdocs with offline editing yay, missed that while heading up here. | 17:49 |
| rick_h_ | "than...other cloud providers" | 17:51 |
| rick_h_ | ouch, 770 cores up and running in < 20min | 17:53 |
| rick_h_ | 770k cores that is | 17:53 |
| brousch | Is that all? | 17:54 |
| rick_h_ | well, for a single app that was running a genome computation | 17:55 |
| jrwren | DAMNY! | 17:55 |
| brousch | So is this like EC2 or Heroku? | 17:56 |
| rick_h_ | ec2 | 17:56 |
| rick_h_ | app engine == heroku | 17:56 |
| rick_h_ | this is like ec2 linode, rackspace type things | 17:57 |
| brousch | Hm, yeah, I guess you're right. | 17:57 |
| jrwren | native client is SWEET | 17:57 |
| rick_h_ | yea, NCL is the key to chromebooks | 17:58 |
| rick_h_ | give it time, they'll start to win users | 17:58 |
| brousch | I like chromebook for consuming content | 17:58 |
| rick_h_ | yea, lots of family could be just fine on one | 17:59 |
| brousch | Fast, simple, sturdy | 17:59 |
| brousch | PRinting is still the stickiest point, but it's getting better | 17:59 |
| rick_h_ | yea, and always up to date | 17:59 |
| rick_h_ | that's underestimated. My wife has 100+ ubuntu updates she's not run yet | 17:59 |
| rick_h_ | but chrome just updates itself | 17:59 |
| brousch | Heh, almost too often. Seems like I reboot the boy's chromebook twice a week for updates | 18:00 |
| brousch | Sure, it only takes 15 seconds to reboot, but it's kind of annoying | 18:00 |
| rick_h_ | big win in my book | 18:00 |
| rick_h_ | I'm seriously thinking of replacing my wife's laptop with one when her laptop dies | 18:01 |
| brousch | He has figured out the new interface, so now he can get videos off of the SD card | 18:01 |
| rick_h_ | she's got a work laptop for the important work stuff that's IE only anyway | 18:01 |
| rick_h_ | heh, sweet. Using webrtc and hte camera to do 'kinect'-like interface | 18:03 |
| rick_h_ | doh, and giving out the chromebox units | 18:09 |
| widox | ColonelPanic001: are you going to the apps for detroit thing tonight? | 18:10 |
| ColonelPanic001 | nein | 18:10 |
| widox | ok. saw you posted something on twitter about it | 18:11 |
| MaskedDriver | http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/nvidia-loses-order-due-to-poor-linux-support-20120628/ | 18:31 |
| MaskedDriver | Linux: "Don't mess with us, brah! How's $500 million taste?" | 18:32 |
| jrwren | yeah, but thats $500 million us dollars in chinese usd dollars :p | 18:34 |
| MaskedDriver | that's $500 million USD | 18:34 |
| MaskedDriver | but I don't know the going currency exchange rate right now between the yen and the USD | 18:35 |
| MaskedDriver | and have no motivation to find out for you ;) | 18:35 |
| derekv | ahhhh wtf "fact table" | 18:41 |
| MaskedDriver | fact table? | 18:43 |
| rick_h_ | heh, someone just got a list of requirements | 18:44 |
| jrwren | yen is japanese, not chinese | 18:46 |
| jrwren | and i was joking | 18:46 |
| MaskedDriver | oh right | 18:47 |
| MaskedDriver | lol I'm bad at currency | 18:47 |
| MaskedDriver | want me to do your finances for you? | 18:47 |
| jrwren | fuk no | 18:47 |
| jrwren | i trust no one with my finances | 18:47 |
| MaskedDriver | lol | 18:48 |
| derekv | rick_h_: yea .... star schema | 18:50 |
| * derekv splodes | 18:51 | |
| rick_h_ | heh, cool demo of the updated android emulator. Swiping on an attached device moves the emulator screen | 18:51 |
| derekv | rick_h_: why not just debug your app on the attached device then i wonder | 18:52 |
| derekv | suppose screen sizes | 18:52 |
| rick_h_ | because the device was a phone, but emulating a tablet | 18:52 |
| derekv | api level | 18:52 |
| rick_h_ | makes that swipe/two finger gesture a bit easier | 18:52 |
| rick_h_ | damn, so my phone is saying I've gone thorugh 3GB of data on my phone the last two days. Watching keynotes fml | 19:44 |
| greg-g | my buddy found this quote from me, relating to one of our early meetings: "We also don't need to be drunk within 10 minutes, maybe | 19:49 |
| greg-g | 30." | 19:49 |
| greg-g | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-mi/2007-August/000002.html | 19:49 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 19:51 |
| rick_h_ | man, 2007? | 19:52 |
| greg-g | yeah, crazy | 19:52 |
| rick_h_ | I remember this conversation I believe | 19:52 |
| greg-g | <lie>This is not the place the meeting will be every time, so do | 19:53 |
| greg-g | not worry. | 19:53 |
| greg-g | </lie> | 19:53 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 19:54 |
| rick_h_ | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-mi/2007-August/000006.html | 19:54 |
| rick_h_ | Hah, I remember that place | 19:54 |
| * rick_h_ goes strolling down memory lane | 19:54 | |
| greg-g | :( | 20:05 |
| greg-g | er :) | 20:05 |
| greg-g | all smiles here | 20:05 |
| nullspace | whooo usbtmc is quite a trip down the kernel rabbit hole | 20:28 |
| brousch | On the CD that came with a motherboard, under the Drivers install: Google toolbar, Google Chrome, Norton Internet Security 2011 | 20:30 |
| derekv | so i'm trying to figure out if there's some reason do do more than ssl + http basic auth on every call | 20:59 |
| derekv | for authentication | 20:59 |
| derekv | why do things require you to log in, get some sort of tolken | 21:00 |
| derekv | maybe the heat is getting to me but it seems silly | 21:00 |
| rick_h_ | derekv: so you can revoke the token | 21:06 |
| rick_h_ | without making the user change their password | 21:06 |
| greg-g | ugh, comments on backpacking with babies blog posts make me lose faith in parts of humanity | 21:08 |
| greg-g | "how about remember some common sense and leave the baby at home!" | 21:09 |
| greg-g | :( | 21:09 |
| rick_h_ | heh | 21:10 |
| rick_h_ | we thought about it, but I think the idea of being 8hrs from a road in case of emergency generally convinced us to skip it | 21:11 |
| greg-g | yeah, definitely not doing major hike, but we at least have to try | 21:11 |
| rick_h_ | yea, it is more complicated though. | 21:12 |
| rick_h_ | but yea, you're on the internet, release the trolls!!!! | 21:12 |
| derekv | not like api token I meant session_id I think | 21:16 |
| derekv | well if I'm writing an app the user has their password stored anyways, i'm trying to think of why not usine http basic auth + ssl | 21:18 |
| derekv | other than the server has to store passwords with reversable encryption | 21:18 |
| derekv | which I don't prefer but in this case might be ok | 21:19 |
| derekv | or, the amazon scheme | 21:19 |
| derekv | which is more complex but its still stateless | 21:19 |
| derekv | no expiring sessions | 21:20 |
| derekv | when you turn the device back on | 21:20 |
| derekv | well, actually, the amazon scheme requires the server to know the password anyways | 21:25 |
| derekv | too bad client certificates aren't usually an option | 21:33 |
| derekv | almost perfect security | 21:33 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: just fyi since you like this stuff too, I just bought this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001AZ5YLE/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 | 22:49 |
| rick_h_ | 15deg? | 22:58 |
| rick_h_ | man, you planning some cold nights greg-g ? | 22:59 |
| rick_h_ | ah nice, two person. You guys are going to get hot in a 15deg bag together me thinks | 22:59 |
| greg-g | maybe yeah, but night in cali aren't the warmest: ) | 23:14 |
| rick_h_ | yea, sorry, it's 100deg today so hard to htink about 15deg | 23:14 |
| greg-g | hehe, yeah, kinda jealous about that (kinda) | 23:15 |
| rick_h_ | I'll pass, all the shades drawn, AC blasting | 23:16 |
| derekv | consumers energy just really pissed me off | 23:18 |
| rick_h_ | ruh roh | 23:20 |
| derekv | seeing if I can switch | 23:20 |
| derekv | well this is about the least worst time to lose my gas | 23:26 |
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