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gilbertpaultag: congrats!!!!18:11
paultaggilbert: :D :D :D :D18:11
paultaggilbert: I've already been causing all sorts of trouble, and I'm stoked about it18:11
gilbertpretty much awesomeness :)18:11
gilbertuh oh18:11
gilbertlike what?18:11
Unit193Cool, what Debian dev thing did you get??18:11
gilberti as well caused a bit of trouble...and now we have a working wine ;)18:11
paultaggilbert: uploading desktop-base (which caused a bit of a tiff), found a few bugs in dak that hit me hard, and now I've pegged lintian.d.o's IO18:12
paultaggilbert: https://lists.debian.org/debian-desktop/2012/06/msg00015.html18:12
gilberthmm, desktop-base has to do with the spacefun theme, right?18:12
paultaggilbert: that thread is *gold* if you want some reading18:12
paultaggilbert: not if I have something to say about it18:13
gilberthehe18:13
paultaggilbert: I just removed all spacefun18:13
paultaggilbert: http://blog.pault.ag/post/25614704596/my-quest-to-get-desktop-base-set-before-wheezy18:13
paultaggilbert: http://www.eshat.de/blog/?p=36318:13
paultaggilbert: that thread caused a bit of a stir since they wanted to "vote"18:13
paultaggilbert: for *5* days, *8* days before freeze18:13
paultagUnit193: I'm a debian developer now18:14
gilbertpaultag: yeah, often the best course of action is to just do it, consensus is basically impossible18:15
paultaggilbert: the good bits of the thread start on https://lists.debian.org/debian-desktop/2012/06/msg00023.html18:15
paultagyeah, I agree18:16
paultagso unstable has a pretty great set of defaults18:16
gilberti kinda like the 7th element theme myself, but its a bit busy for a default18:18
paultaggilbert: I loved it18:19
paultaggilbert: but we don't have enough time in 8 days to theme GDM, patch GDM to support this, write a GTK theme to support it and do it all right18:20
paultagso it'd be some half-assed mess18:20
gilbertah, i see18:20
paultagso I picked the one that was the most complete and the most hard to screw up that could sit and not annoy me in 5 months18:20
paultag:)18:20
Unit193paultag: Congrats now!18:20
paultagUnit193: :)18:20
gilbertnext release ... in  2 years :(18:20
paultagbleh, yeah18:20
paultagI don't want to sit with a half-implemented theme for that long18:21
paultagsomeone called it "neutral motel artwork"18:21
gilbertagreed.  that would be quite bad18:21
gilberti'm just glad that there is gonig to be a new theme18:23
paultagyeah, me too18:23
paultagI got freaked out when I relized it18:23
gilberttwo releases with the same would look rediculous18:23
paultag+118:23
gilberti'm also happy that multiarch is finally coming together :)18:24
gilbertlots of good stuff happened during this development period18:25
paultagtotally18:25
paultaggilbert: do you know anything about having a partial overlay multiarch forgen arch?18:25
paultagerm, foreign18:26
gilbertnope18:26
paultagbleh18:26
paultagok18:26
gilbertsorry :(18:26
paultagI want to rebuild all my libs into llvm and add llvm to my system18:26
paultagso I can use klee, but I don't know if you can do that without having the port bootable18:26
paultag(since llvm is bytecode)18:27
gilbertwow, that sounds like a lot of work18:27
paultaggilbert: I'm already sponsoring the clang rebuild of the archive, it'd just be a matter of adding the llvm switch to CFLAGS out of dpkg-buildflags and failing if it sees any ELFs18:28
paultagfor GSoC18:28
gilbert(assuming that most libs haven't been designed to be built with llvm)18:28
paultagwell clang uses LLVM as it's internal rep of the parsed code18:28
paultagso C → clang → llvm → elf18:28
gilberti see18:28
gilbertstill seems like  a lot of opportunity for build failures18:29
paultaghell yeah18:29
paultag8% of the archive18:29
paultaghttp://clang.debian.net/18:29
paultagthen after this, I'm going to destory all python c extentions with crazy lintian.18:31
paultaglinting *18:31
MaskedDriverhttp://www.geek.com/articles/chips/nvidia-loses-order-due-to-poor-linux-support-20120628/18:31
paultagpeople are going to hate me after I'm done :)18:31
MaskedDriverLinux: "Don't mess around with us, brah!"18:31
paultagI feel bad because they were one of the first to support linux on a corperate level18:32
gilbertwell, the whiners will18:32
paultagit was just closed source and misguided18:32
gilbertmost will be happy/supportive, but wont say anything18:32
paultaggilbert: yeah, but I'm fully armed for flame-wars. I've got no problem being in the middle of one18:33
MaskedDriverflamewars are fun for everyone involved18:33
gilbertpaultag: hehe, same here18:34
paultaggilbert: >:)18:34
MaskedDriverto be fair, I'm a Radeon Fanboi though18:36
MaskedDriverso my excitement over that article is a little biased18:37
gilberti've been an ati supporte as well for the past few years...supporting their open spec approach18:37
MaskedDriverI like how ATI has finally gotten into the game and has forced the price of Nvidia products down to reasonable levels18:39
MaskedDriverI remember when the radeon 4850 came out and it was as good as the $500 nvidia cards and it was $17018:40
MaskedDriverATI needs to work on better anti-aliasing support. you lose FPS like a mad man with it with Radeons but not nearly as bad with geforce18:41
odaOHHHHH18:41
paultagIIIIIOOOOOOOOOO18:43
oda(sucks)18:43
MaskedDriversucks what/18:43
MaskedDriver?18:43
odaerrrrr18:43
odawell atleast you can go outside without dying, there's that.18:44
MaskedDriverlol18:44
MaskedDriverit's 93 up here in MI right now18:44
MaskedDriverfeels like 9518:44
odahigh of 113 today18:44
MaskedDriverthat with heat index?18:45
odano chance of being outdoors18:45
odaheat index?18:45
MaskedDriverit's 93 here... it feels like 9518:45
MaskedDriverthe heat index is 9518:45
odaOh, no18:45
MaskedDriverit feels hotter than it actually is18:45
MaskedDriverit's only 96 in c-bus18:45
odaONLY18:45
MaskedDriver113 my butt ;)18:46
odaI only remember it getting that hot around there OCCASIONALLY18:46
* oda is not in ohio18:46
MaskedDriveroh18:46
MaskedDriverwas not aware. I apologize18:46
odathe heat waves are getting worse with each season18:46
MaskedDriveraye18:47
gilbert100 in columbus :(18:47
MaskedDriverLIES.. I just looked at intellicast18:48
MaskedDriverlol18:48
odaWhat humidity?18:48
MaskedDriver33% in c-bus18:48
* MaskedDriver wants Joy... now :)18:49
odathe low humidity paired with the dust storms here wreak havoc on ones lungs I would guess18:49
odaCan't wi18:49
odawin*18:49
* oda remembers a time when ATI drivers for linux were actually worse than Nvidias18:50
odaover 5 years ago or so18:50
MaskedDriverI haven't used ATI drivers in about that long18:51
MaskedDriverI only rock out *nix on my laptop and that's got a 9100m in it18:51
MaskedDrivergonna be getting a new gaming rig that I plan on dual-booting and that'll probably have nividia in it too18:51
MaskedDrivernvidia*18:51
odaValve is workin on native support for steam on linux18:51
odaThat'll bring some games that aren't absolutely terrible to the platform18:52
odaAlong with other good things18:52
odaEspecially if Windows 8 is a catastrophe like I think it's going to be18:53
MaskedDriveroda.. I don't think it's gonna be18:53
oda>tablet interface18:53
oda>desktop OS18:53
oda>gtfo18:53
MaskedDriveryeah.. the start menu is18:53
MaskedDriverthat's it18:53
MaskedDriverI used it for a daily driver for almost 2 months18:53
odaIt's an outrage18:53
MaskedDriverI got a Razer Naga mouse and the drivers weren't compatible with Win8 so I had to switch back to 7 til they get that sorted out18:54
MaskedDriverit's way more optimized... It's much better than Win718:54
odaOh well18:54
odaI've been sliding into a freetard state of mind lately anyway18:54
MaskedDriverfor example: I play SWTOR... Same settings: 50-80fps on Windows 7, 70-100fps in Windows 818:54
odainterdasting18:55
odaWhat is SWTOR?18:55
paultagMaskedDriver: I got a Mamba and a nostromo18:55
MaskedDriverStar Wars: The Old Republic18:55
MaskedDrivernice :)18:55
MaskedDriverI rock out a DasKeyboard18:55
MaskedDriverand a G13 gameboard18:55
paultagme too18:55
paultagI got a das, mamba and a nostromo18:55
paultagit's not bad18:55
odaI got a mamba in my pants18:55
MaskedDriverlol18:55
MaskedDriverthere that is18:55
paultagoda: arn't you like 12?18:55
odapaultag, yes18:56
MaskedDriverwelp18:56
MaskedDriverwe're going to jail18:56
odaHad an image of win7 home premium tweaked to only use 300mb of RAM earlier then realized there was no sound or networking so that's a bit of a problem18:57
odadebian...debian is wunderbar18:57
YANOoda: s/is/ist/18:58
odaYANO, hwat18:58
YANOhehe18:58
canthus13oda: You think yano's hawt?18:58
* oda is so confused18:58
YANOwell it is18:58
YANOClear ☼, 96.8℉ (36℃), 29.83in (1007mb), Gentle breeze 9kt (↑) - KCMH 17:51Z18:58
YANOHumidity at 34%18:59
odaWhat happened19:01
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