=== yano is now known as YANO === YANO is now known as yano === yano is now known as YANO [18:11] paultag: congrats!!!! [18:11] gilbert: :D :D :D :D [18:11] gilbert: I've already been causing all sorts of trouble, and I'm stoked about it [18:11] pretty much awesomeness :) [18:11] uh oh [18:11] like what? [18:11] Cool, what Debian dev thing did you get?? [18:11] i as well caused a bit of trouble...and now we have a working wine ;) [18:12] gilbert: uploading desktop-base (which caused a bit of a tiff), found a few bugs in dak that hit me hard, and now I've pegged lintian.d.o's IO [18:12] gilbert: https://lists.debian.org/debian-desktop/2012/06/msg00015.html [18:12] hmm, desktop-base has to do with the spacefun theme, right? [18:12] gilbert: that thread is *gold* if you want some reading [18:13] gilbert: not if I have something to say about it [18:13] hehe [18:13] gilbert: I just removed all spacefun [18:13] gilbert: http://blog.pault.ag/post/25614704596/my-quest-to-get-desktop-base-set-before-wheezy [18:13] gilbert: http://www.eshat.de/blog/?p=363 [18:13] gilbert: that thread caused a bit of a stir since they wanted to "vote" [18:13] gilbert: for *5* days, *8* days before freeze [18:14] Unit193: I'm a debian developer now [18:15] paultag: yeah, often the best course of action is to just do it, consensus is basically impossible [18:15] gilbert: the good bits of the thread start on https://lists.debian.org/debian-desktop/2012/06/msg00023.html [18:16] yeah, I agree [18:16] so unstable has a pretty great set of defaults [18:18] i kinda like the 7th element theme myself, but its a bit busy for a default [18:19] gilbert: I loved it [18:20] gilbert: but we don't have enough time in 8 days to theme GDM, patch GDM to support this, write a GTK theme to support it and do it all right [18:20] so it'd be some half-assed mess [18:20] ah, i see [18:20] so I picked the one that was the most complete and the most hard to screw up that could sit and not annoy me in 5 months [18:20] :) [18:20] paultag: Congrats now! [18:20] Unit193: :) [18:20] next release ... in 2 years :( [18:20] bleh, yeah [18:21] I don't want to sit with a half-implemented theme for that long [18:21] someone called it "neutral motel artwork" [18:21] agreed. that would be quite bad [18:23] i'm just glad that there is gonig to be a new theme [18:23] yeah, me too [18:23] I got freaked out when I relized it [18:23] two releases with the same would look rediculous [18:23] +1 [18:24] i'm also happy that multiarch is finally coming together :) [18:25] lots of good stuff happened during this development period [18:25] totally [18:25] gilbert: do you know anything about having a partial overlay multiarch forgen arch? [18:26] erm, foreign [18:26] nope [18:26] bleh [18:26] ok [18:26] sorry :( [18:26] I want to rebuild all my libs into llvm and add llvm to my system [18:26] so I can use klee, but I don't know if you can do that without having the port bootable [18:27] (since llvm is bytecode) [18:27] wow, that sounds like a lot of work [18:28] gilbert: I'm already sponsoring the clang rebuild of the archive, it'd just be a matter of adding the llvm switch to CFLAGS out of dpkg-buildflags and failing if it sees any ELFs [18:28] for GSoC [18:28] (assuming that most libs haven't been designed to be built with llvm) [18:28] well clang uses LLVM as it's internal rep of the parsed code [18:28] so C → clang → llvm → elf [18:28] i see [18:29] still seems like a lot of opportunity for build failures [18:29] hell yeah [18:29] 8% of the archive [18:29] http://clang.debian.net/ [18:31] then after this, I'm going to destory all python c extentions with crazy lintian. [18:31] linting * [18:31] http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/nvidia-loses-order-due-to-poor-linux-support-20120628/ [18:31] people are going to hate me after I'm done :) [18:31] Linux: "Don't mess around with us, brah!" [18:32] I feel bad because they were one of the first to support linux on a corperate level [18:32] well, the whiners will [18:32] it was just closed source and misguided [18:32] most will be happy/supportive, but wont say anything [18:33] gilbert: yeah, but I'm fully armed for flame-wars. I've got no problem being in the middle of one [18:33] flamewars are fun for everyone involved [18:34] paultag: hehe, same here [18:34] gilbert: >:) [18:36] to be fair, I'm a Radeon Fanboi though [18:37] so my excitement over that article is a little biased [18:37] i've been an ati supporte as well for the past few years...supporting their open spec approach [18:39] I like how ATI has finally gotten into the game and has forced the price of Nvidia products down to reasonable levels [18:40] I remember when the radeon 4850 came out and it was as good as the $500 nvidia cards and it was $170 [18:41] ATI needs to work on better anti-aliasing support. you lose FPS like a mad man with it with Radeons but not nearly as bad with geforce [18:41] OHHHHH [18:43] IIIIIOOOOOOOOOO [18:43] (sucks) [18:43] sucks what/ [18:43] ? [18:43] errrrr [18:44] well atleast you can go outside without dying, there's that. [18:44] lol [18:44] it's 93 up here in MI right now [18:44] feels like 95 [18:44] high of 113 today [18:45] that with heat index? [18:45] no chance of being outdoors [18:45] heat index? [18:45] it's 93 here... it feels like 95 [18:45] the heat index is 95 [18:45] Oh, no [18:45] it feels hotter than it actually is [18:45] it's only 96 in c-bus [18:45] ONLY [18:46] 113 my butt ;) [18:46] I only remember it getting that hot around there OCCASIONALLY [18:46] * oda is not in ohio [18:46] oh [18:46] was not aware. I apologize [18:46] the heat waves are getting worse with each season [18:47] aye [18:47] 100 in columbus :( [18:48] LIES.. I just looked at intellicast [18:48] lol [18:48] What humidity? [18:48] 33% in c-bus [18:49] * MaskedDriver wants Joy... now :) [18:49] the low humidity paired with the dust storms here wreak havoc on ones lungs I would guess [18:49] Can't wi [18:49] win* [18:50] * oda remembers a time when ATI drivers for linux were actually worse than Nvidias [18:50] over 5 years ago or so [18:51] I haven't used ATI drivers in about that long [18:51] I only rock out *nix on my laptop and that's got a 9100m in it [18:51] gonna be getting a new gaming rig that I plan on dual-booting and that'll probably have nividia in it too [18:51] nvidia* [18:51] Valve is workin on native support for steam on linux [18:52] That'll bring some games that aren't absolutely terrible to the platform [18:52] Along with other good things [18:53] Especially if Windows 8 is a catastrophe like I think it's going to be [18:53] oda.. I don't think it's gonna be [18:53] >tablet interface [18:53] >desktop OS [18:53] >gtfo [18:53] yeah.. the start menu is [18:53] that's it [18:53] I used it for a daily driver for almost 2 months [18:53] It's an outrage [18:54] I got a Razer Naga mouse and the drivers weren't compatible with Win8 so I had to switch back to 7 til they get that sorted out [18:54] it's way more optimized... It's much better than Win7 [18:54] Oh well [18:54] I've been sliding into a freetard state of mind lately anyway [18:54] for example: I play SWTOR... Same settings: 50-80fps on Windows 7, 70-100fps in Windows 8 [18:55] interdasting [18:55] What is SWTOR? [18:55] MaskedDriver: I got a Mamba and a nostromo [18:55] Star Wars: The Old Republic [18:55] nice :) [18:55] I rock out a DasKeyboard [18:55] and a G13 gameboard [18:55] me too [18:55] I got a das, mamba and a nostromo [18:55] it's not bad [18:55] I got a mamba in my pants [18:55] lol [18:55] there that is [18:55] oda: arn't you like 12? [18:56] paultag, yes [18:56] welp [18:56] we're going to jail [18:57] Had an image of win7 home premium tweaked to only use 300mb of RAM earlier then realized there was no sound or networking so that's a bit of a problem [18:57] debian...debian is wunderbar [18:58] oda: s/is/ist/ [18:58] YANO, hwat [18:58] hehe [18:58] oda: You think yano's hawt? [18:58] * oda is so confused [18:58] well it is [18:58] Clear ☼, 96.8℉ (36℃), 29.83in (1007mb), Gentle breeze 9kt (↑) - KCMH 17:51Z [18:59] Humidity at 34% [19:01] What happened === YANO is now known as yano [22:00] you chased him off!!!