[18:11] <gilbert> paultag: congrats!!!!
[18:11] <paultag> gilbert: :D :D :D :D
[18:11] <paultag> gilbert: I've already been causing all sorts of trouble, and I'm stoked about it
[18:11] <gilbert> pretty much awesomeness :)
[18:11] <gilbert> uh oh
[18:11] <gilbert> like what?
[18:11] <Unit193> Cool, what Debian dev thing did you get??
[18:11] <gilbert> i as well caused a bit of trouble...and now we have a working wine ;)
[18:12] <paultag> gilbert: uploading desktop-base (which caused a bit of a tiff), found a few bugs in dak that hit me hard, and now I've pegged lintian.d.o's IO
[18:12] <paultag> gilbert: https://lists.debian.org/debian-desktop/2012/06/msg00015.html
[18:12] <gilbert> hmm, desktop-base has to do with the spacefun theme, right?
[18:12] <paultag> gilbert: that thread is *gold* if you want some reading
[18:13] <paultag> gilbert: not if I have something to say about it
[18:13] <gilbert> hehe
[18:13] <paultag> gilbert: I just removed all spacefun
[18:13] <paultag> gilbert: http://blog.pault.ag/post/25614704596/my-quest-to-get-desktop-base-set-before-wheezy
[18:13] <paultag> gilbert: http://www.eshat.de/blog/?p=363
[18:13] <paultag> gilbert: that thread caused a bit of a stir since they wanted to "vote"
[18:13] <paultag> gilbert: for *5* days, *8* days before freeze
[18:14] <paultag> Unit193: I'm a debian developer now
[18:15] <gilbert> paultag: yeah, often the best course of action is to just do it, consensus is basically impossible
[18:15] <paultag> gilbert: the good bits of the thread start on https://lists.debian.org/debian-desktop/2012/06/msg00023.html
[18:16] <paultag> yeah, I agree
[18:16] <paultag> so unstable has a pretty great set of defaults
[18:18] <gilbert> i kinda like the 7th element theme myself, but its a bit busy for a default
[18:19] <paultag> gilbert: I loved it
[18:20] <paultag> gilbert: but we don't have enough time in 8 days to theme GDM, patch GDM to support this, write a GTK theme to support it and do it all right
[18:20] <paultag> so it'd be some half-assed mess
[18:20] <gilbert> ah, i see
[18:20] <paultag> so I picked the one that was the most complete and the most hard to screw up that could sit and not annoy me in 5 months
[18:20] <paultag> :)
[18:20] <Unit193> paultag: Congrats now!
[18:20] <paultag> Unit193: :)
[18:20] <gilbert> next release ... in  2 years :(
[18:20] <paultag> bleh, yeah
[18:21] <paultag> I don't want to sit with a half-implemented theme for that long
[18:21] <paultag> someone called it "neutral motel artwork"
[18:21] <gilbert> agreed.  that would be quite bad
[18:23] <gilbert> i'm just glad that there is gonig to be a new theme
[18:23] <paultag> yeah, me too
[18:23] <paultag> I got freaked out when I relized it
[18:23] <gilbert> two releases with the same would look rediculous
[18:23] <paultag> +1
[18:24] <gilbert> i'm also happy that multiarch is finally coming together :)
[18:25] <gilbert> lots of good stuff happened during this development period
[18:25] <paultag> totally
[18:25] <paultag> gilbert: do you know anything about having a partial overlay multiarch forgen arch?
[18:26] <paultag> erm, foreign
[18:26] <gilbert> nope
[18:26] <paultag> bleh
[18:26] <paultag> ok
[18:26] <gilbert> sorry :(
[18:26] <paultag> I want to rebuild all my libs into llvm and add llvm to my system
[18:26] <paultag> so I can use klee, but I don't know if you can do that without having the port bootable
[18:27] <paultag> (since llvm is bytecode)
[18:27] <gilbert> wow, that sounds like a lot of work
[18:28] <paultag> gilbert: I'm already sponsoring the clang rebuild of the archive, it'd just be a matter of adding the llvm switch to CFLAGS out of dpkg-buildflags and failing if it sees any ELFs
[18:28] <paultag> for GSoC
[18:28] <gilbert> (assuming that most libs haven't been designed to be built with llvm)
[18:28] <paultag> well clang uses LLVM as it's internal rep of the parsed code
[18:28] <paultag> so C → clang → llvm → elf
[18:28] <gilbert> i see
[18:29] <gilbert> still seems like  a lot of opportunity for build failures
[18:29] <paultag> hell yeah
[18:29] <paultag> 8% of the archive
[18:29] <paultag> http://clang.debian.net/
[18:31] <paultag> then after this, I'm going to destory all python c extentions with crazy lintian.
[18:31] <paultag> linting *
[18:31] <MaskedDriver> http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/nvidia-loses-order-due-to-poor-linux-support-20120628/
[18:31] <paultag> people are going to hate me after I'm done :)
[18:31] <MaskedDriver> Linux: "Don't mess around with us, brah!"
[18:32] <paultag> I feel bad because they were one of the first to support linux on a corperate level
[18:32] <gilbert> well, the whiners will
[18:32] <paultag> it was just closed source and misguided
[18:32] <gilbert> most will be happy/supportive, but wont say anything
[18:33] <paultag> gilbert: yeah, but I'm fully armed for flame-wars. I've got no problem being in the middle of one
[18:33] <MaskedDriver> flamewars are fun for everyone involved
[18:34] <gilbert> paultag: hehe, same here
[18:34] <paultag> gilbert: >:)
[18:36] <MaskedDriver> to be fair, I'm a Radeon Fanboi though
[18:37] <MaskedDriver> so my excitement over that article is a little biased
[18:37] <gilbert> i've been an ati supporte as well for the past few years...supporting their open spec approach
[18:39] <MaskedDriver> I like how ATI has finally gotten into the game and has forced the price of Nvidia products down to reasonable levels
[18:40] <MaskedDriver> I remember when the radeon 4850 came out and it was as good as the $500 nvidia cards and it was $170
[18:41] <MaskedDriver> ATI needs to work on better anti-aliasing support. you lose FPS like a mad man with it with Radeons but not nearly as bad with geforce
[18:41] <oda> OHHHHH
[18:43] <paultag> IIIIIOOOOOOOOOO
[18:43] <oda> (sucks)
[18:43] <MaskedDriver> sucks what/
[18:43] <MaskedDriver> ?
[18:43] <oda> errrrr
[18:44] <oda> well atleast you can go outside without dying, there's that.
[18:44] <MaskedDriver> lol
[18:44] <MaskedDriver> it's 93 up here in MI right now
[18:44] <MaskedDriver> feels like 95
[18:44] <oda> high of 113 today
[18:45] <MaskedDriver> that with heat index?
[18:45] <oda> no chance of being outdoors
[18:45] <oda> heat index?
[18:45] <MaskedDriver> it's 93 here... it feels like 95
[18:45] <MaskedDriver> the heat index is 95
[18:45] <oda> Oh, no
[18:45] <MaskedDriver> it feels hotter than it actually is
[18:45] <MaskedDriver> it's only 96 in c-bus
[18:45] <oda> ONLY
[18:46] <MaskedDriver> 113 my butt ;)
[18:46] <oda> I only remember it getting that hot around there OCCASIONALLY
[18:46]  * oda is not in ohio
[18:46] <MaskedDriver> oh
[18:46] <MaskedDriver> was not aware. I apologize
[18:46] <oda> the heat waves are getting worse with each season
[18:47] <MaskedDriver> aye
[18:47] <gilbert> 100 in columbus :(
[18:48] <MaskedDriver> LIES.. I just looked at intellicast
[18:48] <MaskedDriver> lol
[18:48] <oda> What humidity?
[18:48] <MaskedDriver> 33% in c-bus
[18:49]  * MaskedDriver wants Joy... now :)
[18:49] <oda> the low humidity paired with the dust storms here wreak havoc on ones lungs I would guess
[18:49] <oda> Can't wi
[18:49] <oda> win*
[18:50]  * oda remembers a time when ATI drivers for linux were actually worse than Nvidias
[18:50] <oda> over 5 years ago or so
[18:51] <MaskedDriver> I haven't used ATI drivers in about that long
[18:51] <MaskedDriver> I only rock out *nix on my laptop and that's got a 9100m in it
[18:51] <MaskedDriver> gonna be getting a new gaming rig that I plan on dual-booting and that'll probably have nividia in it too
[18:51] <MaskedDriver> nvidia*
[18:51] <oda> Valve is workin on native support for steam on linux
[18:52] <oda> That'll bring some games that aren't absolutely terrible to the platform
[18:52] <oda> Along with other good things
[18:53] <oda> Especially if Windows 8 is a catastrophe like I think it's going to be
[18:53] <MaskedDriver> oda.. I don't think it's gonna be
[18:53] <oda> >tablet interface
[18:53] <oda> >desktop OS
[18:53] <oda> >gtfo
[18:53] <MaskedDriver> yeah.. the start menu is
[18:53] <MaskedDriver> that's it
[18:53] <MaskedDriver> I used it for a daily driver for almost 2 months
[18:53] <oda> It's an outrage
[18:54] <MaskedDriver> I got a Razer Naga mouse and the drivers weren't compatible with Win8 so I had to switch back to 7 til they get that sorted out
[18:54] <MaskedDriver> it's way more optimized... It's much better than Win7
[18:54] <oda> Oh well
[18:54] <oda> I've been sliding into a freetard state of mind lately anyway
[18:54] <MaskedDriver> for example: I play SWTOR... Same settings: 50-80fps on Windows 7, 70-100fps in Windows 8
[18:55] <oda> interdasting
[18:55] <oda> What is SWTOR?
[18:55] <paultag> MaskedDriver: I got a Mamba and a nostromo
[18:55] <MaskedDriver> Star Wars: The Old Republic
[18:55] <MaskedDriver> nice :)
[18:55] <MaskedDriver> I rock out a DasKeyboard
[18:55] <MaskedDriver> and a G13 gameboard
[18:55] <paultag> me too
[18:55] <paultag> I got a das, mamba and a nostromo
[18:55] <paultag> it's not bad
[18:55] <oda> I got a mamba in my pants
[18:55] <MaskedDriver> lol
[18:55] <MaskedDriver> there that is
[18:55] <paultag> oda: arn't you like 12?
[18:56] <oda> paultag, yes
[18:56] <MaskedDriver> welp
[18:56] <MaskedDriver> we're going to jail
[18:57] <oda> Had an image of win7 home premium tweaked to only use 300mb of RAM earlier then realized there was no sound or networking so that's a bit of a problem
[18:57] <oda> debian...debian is wunderbar
[18:58] <YANO> oda: s/is/ist/
[18:58] <oda> YANO, hwat
[18:58] <YANO> hehe
[18:58] <canthus13> oda: You think yano's hawt?
[18:58]  * oda is so confused
[18:58] <YANO> well it is
[18:58] <YANO> Clear ☼, 96.8℉ (36℃), 29.83in (1007mb), Gentle breeze 9kt (↑) - KCMH 17:51Z
[18:59] <YANO> Humidity at 34%
[19:01] <oda> What happened
[22:00] <toddc> you chased him off!!!