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urgodfatheris anyone familiar with getting a synaptics touchpad with gestures to function properly?01:19
holsteinElesa: hey.. try the OT channel for chat.. this is the support channel.. not much "hi" going on usually02:44
ElesaI see02:45
Elesawell, I wamted support xD02:45
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience02:45
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/02:45
holsteinthis channel usually has decent traffic though.. a few hours wait maybe sometimes02:46
Elesawell, I can’t give many details since I'm not at my friend's side, but he tried to install Xubuntu 12.04 and so far everything is good, except that the installer just closes when progress is about 30-40%, and returns no errors or messages, it just closes02:47
holsteinid try the other installer02:47
holsteinid test the ram and hard drive and any other hardware02:48
holsteinid confirm the sum of the iso02:48
holstein!md5 | Elesa02:48
ubottuElesa: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows02:48
Unit193That doesn't sound good, maybe a bug unless low spec.02:48
ubottuThe Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal02:48
Unit193Either way, but you can run the "Check CD" when booting if you hit shift.02:48
holsteinyup.. and test the memory there :)02:49
Elesawell, I don't think his PC is weak to run Xubuntu  but still xD, thanks, I'll tell him.. he won't like that the Alternate CD is text-based though02:50
holsteinhe might apreciate it more when it installs02:50
Elesais there any way to get any information of what's going on during the installation?02:51
holsteini know how from the alternate02:51
Elesahmm.. and if he runs ubiquity from the terminal? (is that even possible?) can he see what's going on, like when you start Synaptic from a terminal?02:55
Elesahe probably doesn't know how to use a Terminal02:56
holsteini would try a few tricks if i were in front of it.. but firing off a bunch of options to try 2nd hand is really not constructive for you or i02:57
holsteini would suggest the alternate, and try and come back with your friend if that doesnt work :)02:57
Elesaokay, I think I'll tell him (we don't live in the same country so I can't really help him)02:58
Elesais that Alternate CD hard to use?03:00
Elesaalso, how can he set up his Wi-Fi connection on it?03:00
holsteinits easy.. quite clear.. i would install *then* set up wifi03:00
holsteinthat could be the issue with the current live installer03:00
Elesao.o that's actually a good idea03:02
ElesaI'll tell him to try once more without Wi-Fi up03:02
Unit193But, you may want to have him lspci to see what type of card it is.03:03
Elesaif that doesn't work, then I'll tell him to download the Alternate one03:03
Elesathanks! <303:03
ubottuThe Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal03:03
Elesauhm, well, everything seemed to.work well, Firefox and stuff03:03
Unit193Great, not one of the cards that needs additional fixing so it seems.03:04
Elesahe has an old ATI Radeon graphics card but I doubt that's the issue since everything else is working smoothly03:04
Elesano graphics problems or something03:04
ElesaI told him to install without Wi-Fi up and without the desktop session03:28
ElesaThe Installer encountered an unrecoverable error. a desktop session will now be run so that you may investigate the problem or try installing again03:28
Elesaunrecoverable error.. very helpful.. -_-03:29
holsteini would try the alternate Elesa03:31
Elesahow is the Alternate CD better at supporting hardware?03:39
holsteinits not03:39
holsteinthe alternate CD has lower requirements...03:40
urgodfatherwill someone running 32 bit convert a driver for me?03:41
Elesaoh.. D:03:45
Elesabut like, why would it be better to use as a means of installation, apart from not being another alternative?03:46
holsteinElesa: i have installed with the live CD.. had issues... and used the alternate with success03:46
holsteinElesa: i have just used the alternate because there are other options in there that are not in the live installer03:46
holsteini have used the live installer and all has been fine... its really up to you03:47
holsteinthe difference is the process.. the end result should be the same, or able to be the same03:47
astraljavaurgodfather: Are you saying a driver is missing from the amd64 side? Which driver is this?03:49
ElesaI hope, thanks.. but what if that goes wrong too?03:50
ElesaI guess everything can be resolved?03:51
urgodfatherastraljava: yes, but not due to ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu etc.... more or less from the oem03:51
holsteinElesa: sure... AFAIK, the hardware has not been tested03:51
astraljavaurgodfather: Ok. What driver would you like to see? Or for which devices?03:53
urgodfatherhere is the link for the download for a synaptics touchpad v. 15.x.x. its the closest i can find to be truely l100% functional03:55
urgodfatherits for SuSe though... im simply asking someone to use alien and convert it for me03:56
astraljavaurgodfather: Alright. Well I'd appreciate if you could take the time and file a bug against linux for inclusion of that in the kernel. It'll be a slow process, and I'll look in a minute whether I can convert it for you meanwhile.04:22
urgodfatherastraljava: how to?04:22
urgodfatherastraljava: never actually filed before, and what exactly is the bug?04:23
astraljavaurgodfather: The bug would be that the current synaptic drivers don't work 100%, and then you'd specify the reasons why they don't work 100% in your opinion. You could then link to that location and explain what the drivers there fix considering that bug.04:28
astraljavaurgodfather: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs is the link that guides you in reporting bugs.04:29
urgodfatherastraljava: that bug is already open04:29
astraljavaurgodfather: Oh ok, that's good.04:30
astraljavaThen you could hit the 'Affects me too' button on it.04:30
urgodfatherastraljava:  there are several for the same issues which im not satisfied with... no need for redundancies04:34
astraljavaurgodfather: What do you mean by that? The 'Affects me too' button should just add some heat to the bug, meaning there are better chances for the bug to get resolved.04:37
astraljavaurgodfather: Have a try: http://astraljava.kapsi.fi/synaptics-touchpad_16.0.0-1_i386.deb04:37
urgodfathersorry, i tend to overlook bug reports when im looking for a solution04:37
astraljavaUnderstandable. I just to help people keep that process in mind. :)04:38
urgodfatherastraljava: installed beautifully04:57
urgodfatherthanks a million04:57
astraljavaNo probs. As a returned favor, please hit the 'Affects me too' button on a bug that matches your issues. :)04:57
urgodfatherthe question is, do i need to restart to take effect04:57
urgodfatheryou got it, for now on i will take the time to do so04:58
astraljavaurgodfather: Possibly, or at least rmmod/modprobe.05:03
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archwiccanquestion i deleted my pannels to make them the way I want but in the add to pannel area I dont have anything so my minimized windows can go to my pannel06:22
well_laid_lawntwo points - there's only one n in panel and the thing you're looking for is called systray06:25
archwiccani found it06:25
archwiccanhow long you been using xubuntu06:27
well_laid_lawnsince 2006 roughly06:28
archwiccancool, I recently came here, been mainly an Arch linux user but honestly just didn't wanna go through a long install this time :P06:29
well_laid_lawnhow did you make installing arch take a long time?06:31
archwiccannew hardware,  this is a new pc so i just know something will screw up lol06:32
archwiccantried archbang but kept crashig during install06:33
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ferryHello, I'm running xubuntu and i recently lost the plugin for my active windows on the panel. Now i don't know how to get it back, since it's not listed in the plugin list from the panel. Can someone help me please?10:28
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kondiXubuntu 12.04 : volume automatically keeps increasing-decreasing until any audio is playing.13:36
kondiand I don't want to turn off the indicator plugin cause you know why13:38
ochosikondi: that sounds more like a broken keyboard, i've never heard of that before14:01
kondiochosi well I thought about that too, just asked to know if anyone else knew about this. :)14:12
ochosik :)14:12
ochosihave you tried a different keyboard?14:12
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martinphone3 days ago my craptop started acting weird: 10 seconds it responds to my commands (keyboard or mouse) and 10 seconds it absolutely freezes. Firefox gives me 600MB peaks, I have been shutting down apps to see if those were related (i2p, freenet, torrent) but i still get the 10 second pauses, for xubuntu 12.04 with a 2GB RAM machine14:34
martinphonenow, it freezed again14:34
martinphoneno browser opened now, just task manager, a folder and xchat14:35
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martinphoneand what is kworker1:1?14:35
ochosisomething kernel-related14:36
martinphone50% peaks that one14:36
martinphonenow, it freezed again (2)14:37
martinphoneand again14:37
ochosimartinphone: have you tested this with a live-system?14:38
ochosijust to see whether it's a hardware or software-issue14:38
ochosiif the live-system is fine, you can always down/up-grade your kernel14:38
martinphoneno ochosi14:38
ochosiif the live-system has the same problem, you can start to disable components :p14:39
kondi@ochosi it14:39
kondiochosi it's on a laptop14:40
ochosikondi: that's bad luck14:40
martinphone3.2.0.26, has that kernel given anyone any problems?14:40
v1adimirmartinphone: where are you in ##333? :(14:40
kondiochosi tell me about it :)14:40
ochosikondi: you can try to kill xfce4-volumed so that the media-keys are disabled and see whether it helps14:40
martinphoneim not v1adimir14:41
kondisure I'll try it14:41
v1adimiryes, i can see. :f14:41
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kondiochosi it worked! :D14:45
ochosikondi: no problem. in that case you should probably also uninstall the corresponding package...14:45
ochosior at least stop it from autostarting14:49
ataqhey trying to install xubuntu 11.10 but the disk starts up and the screen goes out of range. there is no xorg.conf file present, and it wont allow me to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, any ideas?15:07
well_laid_lawnataq: check the available modes in a terminal with   xrandr -q15:14
well_laid_lawnset a different one with   xrandr -s 1280x1024   or whatever size15:14
ataqI'll try that now, thanks man15:17
ataqits saying cant open display to that well_laid_lawn15:18
well_laid_lawnataq: you don't have a X running?15:19
ataqit starts out of range, so I just press ctrl alt and F1 to go to bash. GDM is running but I cant see it15:20
well_laid_lawndo you know the graphics card15:21
genii-aroundCould try maybe the old way to cycle through resolutions, something like ctrl-alt and then the numberpad + and -15:21
ataqIts an ATI Rage,15:22
ataqgenii-around, it worked, thats a good one to know!!!!! Thanks guys!15:23
well_laid_lawnI didn't know about that one either15:23
ataqThats a sweet one to know, saves alot of arsing around15:24
genii-aroundIt's useful to at least get something usable so you can get into X and then fix the actual issue15:28
milne8204my google-chrome-stable does not start any ideas what can be wrong ?15:40
OUIperhaps running in console with firefox &15:42
OUIand/or checking the log will tell15:43
Kingsyanyone ever experimented with loading the operating system in RAM?15:44
KingsyI have 24GB of ram, so it seems like a viable solution to get UBER speed outta my system15:44
OUI^ nice15:45
OUItry it in some vm that can act that way?15:45
KingsyOUI: are you talking to me?15:46
OUIa vm that can load the os in ram, yes15:46
KingsyI don't want to load a vm into ram, I  want to run ubuntu from ram15:46
OUIuhh make the vm, or whatever emulation can do it - load ubuntu in ram15:47
OUIperhaps better than destroying your system, that's what I was asking :)15:47
OUIcan someone help with UFW, im using Precise desktop, but how can i get the log / report / whatever will show me any inbound requests, since it's set to block all (looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/firewall.html#firewall-logs it seems there are a bunch of options, but idk what to use)16:12
OUIif you don't mind, pls; would pretty much need a walk-through, sorta16:13
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OUIis anyone using UFW, how do you view reports / logs for (blocked) inbound attempts pls?17:08
[Relic]can what appears as the top menu bar be configured to the bottom of the screen?  (never used xubunutu so far)17:22
Unit193You can move the panels all around, yep.17:23
OUIright-click, panel, panel preferences (1 & 2 default)17:35
OUIoh panel 0 and 117:35
OUI.. just unlock it and drag17:40
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[Relic]then once I figure out how I am going to switch around my HD I will get around to installing xubuntu18:03
martinphoneolder kernels reproduce the freeze problem18:12
martinphonecould it be the high local temperatures and the massive use of the craptop? for 4 hours or more...18:13
Sysimartinphone: install lm-sensors and run sudo sensors-detect and maybe reboot18:15
martinphonehow long does it take to scan?18:22
martinphone* Chip `Intel digital thermal sensor' (confidence: 9)18:28
martinphonecraptop still freezes, it just did18:29
martinphone2 times in a minute18:29
benedikt_ is anybody here?19:14
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:15
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benedikt_is xubuntu running fast on a toshiba tecra s2 with 1gb ram?19:16
benedikt_cuz i want to host an apache server on it :D19:17
Unit193Is it?  That'd be for you to say.  Should it run fine on that? Sure, but if you're just running apache I don't see why you wouldn't either use -server or !mini19:18
benedikt_cuz i want an gui19:18
genii-aroundYes, usually for a straight webserver just some headless box, then use zentyal for admin19:18
benedikt_i want to run a minecraft server too on this server19:19
genii-aroundFor minecraft, screen19:19
SysiI'd go for lubuntu or just installing fluxbox or something if I really wanted GUI for server19:19
benedikt_its cuz i am not often using command shell, usually i'm using win7 and ubuntu on my good pc19:21
benedikt_sorry for my english, i'm still studying19:21
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benedikt_and: will logmein hamachi work?19:26
benedikt_and: i've downloaded it: it works19:27
blackgatonegrologmein hamachi?19:28
blackgatonegroWhat is that?19:28
genii-aroundblackgatonegro: Basically a dyndns client19:36
Os_Maleushi together! can somebody tell me, where I find my e-mails saved on my local machine by using kontact respectively kmail?19:38
Os_Maleuswas that not somehow under .kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/ ?19:38
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Kingsyguys, I have just edited my /etc/network/interfaces file to set my eth0 to static. and it works.. but everytime I restart ifconfig doesnt show the eth0 interface until I bring up the device with ifup eth0   how do you get it automatic like it was on dhcp ?21:53
astraljavaKingsy: 'auto eth0' is missing from before the 'iface eth0...' stanza?21:55
Kingsythankyou sir21:55
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UUUnicornHello? Is anyone here?22:16
knomeonly us robots.22:16
UUUnicornHow are you?22:17
knomefine. can we help you with xubuntu?22:17
UUUnicornI ran Update Manager today, and there were updates to install. I did this, then restarted the computer (I was prompted to do so). Now, PulseAudio Volume Control isn't working--there's no sound.22:18
UUUnicornHas anyone else had this problem?22:18
Kingsysomething actually really weird has happened.. I changed my ip to static using the interfaces file and resolv.conf .. now the network-manager has vanished from the top panel.. its not running anymore why?22:20
KingsyI do want network manager to handle my connections22:21
Kingsyoh.. was that not for me22:23
UUUnicornSorry--was chatting with knome.22:23
knomeUUUnicorn, Kingsy: i don't know. while you wait for somebody who might know, you can check other places such as forums and askubuntu.com22:23
Unit193UUUnicorn: Could be several reasons, I'll link to a page I've found helpful https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio22:23
KingsyUnit193: yeah I am looking.. there isnt much info about this..22:23
UUUnicornThank you--will do.22:24
UUUnicornThanks again.22:24
Unit193Hope it helps.22:24
Kingsylol total confusion with nicknames there22:24
knomeKingsy, afaik, networkmanager will only manage networks that aren't managed by interfaces22:24
Kingsyknome: so remove eth0 from interfaces :)22:24
Unit193!resolvconf |Also, new method22:24
ubottuAlso, new method: resolvconf is a set of scripts that's used to manage /etc/resolv.conf in 12.04, for more information please see: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/22:24
knomeKingsy, yes, i suppose that should work22:24
Kingsyok 1 sec brb22:25
xubuntu421someboody, plis23:04
SkippersBoss!ask | xubuntu42123:05
ubottuxubuntu421: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:05
xubuntu421Im users new, and  need help me23:05
Unit193...But never asked.23:07
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