[01:19] <urgodfather> is anyone familiar with getting a synaptics touchpad with gestures to function properly?
[02:39] <Elesa> hi
[02:44] <Elesa> hi?
[02:44] <holstein> Elesa: hey.. try the OT channel for chat.. this is the support channel.. not much "hi" going on usually
[02:45] <Elesa> I see
[02:45] <Elesa> well, I wamted support xD
[02:45] <Elesa> wanted*
[02:45] <holstein> !ask
[02:45] <Elesa> thanks
[02:45] <Elesa> !patience
[02:46] <holstein> this channel usually has decent traffic though.. a few hours wait maybe sometimes
[02:47] <Elesa> well, I can’t give many details since I'm not at my friend's side, but he tried to install Xubuntu 12.04 and so far everything is good, except that the installer just closes when progress is about 30-40%, and returns no errors or messages, it just closes
[02:47] <holstein> id try the other installer
[02:48] <holstein> id test the ram and hard drive and any other hardware
[02:48] <holstein> id confirm the sum of the iso
[02:48] <holstein> !md5 | Elesa
[02:48] <Unit193> That doesn't sound good, maybe a bug unless low spec.
[02:48] <Unit193> !alternate
[02:48] <Unit193> Either way, but you can run the "Check CD" when booting if you hit shift.
[02:49] <holstein> yup.. and test the memory there :)
[02:50] <Elesa> well, I don't think his PC is weak to run Xubuntu  but still xD, thanks, I'll tell him.. he won't like that the Alternate CD is text-based though
[02:50] <holstein> he might apreciate it more when it installs
[02:51] <Elesa> is there any way to get any information of what's going on during the installation?
[02:51] <holstein> i know how from the alternate
[02:55] <Elesa> hmm.. and if he runs ubiquity from the terminal? (is that even possible?) can he see what's going on, like when you start Synaptic from a terminal?
[02:56] <Elesa> he probably doesn't know how to use a Terminal
[02:57] <holstein> i would try a few tricks if i were in front of it.. but firing off a bunch of options to try 2nd hand is really not constructive for you or i
[02:57] <holstein> i would suggest the alternate, and try and come back with your friend if that doesnt work :)
[02:58] <Elesa> okay, I think I'll tell him (we don't live in the same country so I can't really help him)
[02:58] <Elesa> oh
[03:00] <Elesa> is that Alternate CD hard to use?
[03:00] <Elesa> also, how can he set up his Wi-Fi connection on it?
[03:00] <holstein> its easy.. quite clear.. i would install *then* set up wifi
[03:00] <holstein> that could be the issue with the current live installer
[03:02] <Elesa> o.o that's actually a good idea
[03:02] <Elesa> I'll tell him to try once more without Wi-Fi up
[03:03] <Unit193> But, you may want to have him lspci to see what type of card it is.
[03:03] <Elesa> if that doesn't work, then I'll tell him to download the Alternate one
[03:03] <Elesa> thanks! <3
[03:03] <Elesa> !alternate
[03:03] <Elesa> uhm, well, everything seemed to.work well, Firefox and stuff
[03:04] <Unit193> Great, not one of the cards that needs additional fixing so it seems.
[03:04] <Elesa> he has an old ATI Radeon graphics card but I doubt that's the issue since everything else is working smoothly
[03:04] <Elesa> no graphics problems or something
[03:28] <Elesa> I told him to install without Wi-Fi up and without the desktop session
[03:28] <Elesa> The Installer encountered an unrecoverable error. a desktop session will now be run so that you may investigate the problem or try installing again
[03:29] <Elesa> unrecoverable error.. very helpful.. -_-
[03:31] <holstein> i would try the alternate Elesa
[03:31] <Elesa> yup
[03:39] <Elesa> how is the Alternate CD better at supporting hardware?
[03:39] <holstein> its not
[03:40] <holstein> the alternate CD has lower requirements...
[03:41] <urgodfather> will someone running 32 bit convert a driver for me?
[03:45] <Elesa> oh.. D:
[03:46] <Elesa> but like, why would it be better to use as a means of installation, apart from not being another alternative?
[03:46] <holstein> Elesa: i have installed with the live CD.. had issues... and used the alternate with success
[03:46] <holstein> Elesa: i have just used the alternate because there are other options in there that are not in the live installer
[03:47] <holstein> i have used the live installer and all has been fine... its really up to you
[03:47] <holstein> the difference is the process.. the end result should be the same, or able to be the same
[03:49] <astraljava> urgodfather: Are you saying a driver is missing from the amd64 side? Which driver is this?
[03:50] <Elesa> I hope, thanks.. but what if that goes wrong too?
[03:51] <Elesa> I guess everything can be resolved?
[03:51] <urgodfather> astraljava: yes, but not due to ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu etc.... more or less from the oem
[03:51] <holstein> Elesa: sure... AFAIK, the hardware has not been tested
[03:53] <astraljava> urgodfather: Ok. What driver would you like to see? Or for which devices?
[03:54] <urgodfather> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=US&swItem=ob-105312-1&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=5056942
[03:55] <urgodfather> here is the link for the download for a synaptics touchpad v. 15.x.x. its the closest i can find to be truely l100% functional
[03:56] <urgodfather> its for SuSe though... im simply asking someone to use alien and convert it for me
[04:22] <astraljava> urgodfather: Alright. Well I'd appreciate if you could take the time and file a bug against linux for inclusion of that in the kernel. It'll be a slow process, and I'll look in a minute whether I can convert it for you meanwhile.
[04:22] <urgodfather> astraljava: how to?
[04:23] <urgodfather> astraljava: never actually filed before, and what exactly is the bug?
[04:28] <astraljava> urgodfather: The bug would be that the current synaptic drivers don't work 100%, and then you'd specify the reasons why they don't work 100% in your opinion. You could then link to that location and explain what the drivers there fix considering that bug.
[04:29] <astraljava> urgodfather: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs is the link that guides you in reporting bugs.
[04:29] <urgodfather> astraljava: that bug is already open
[04:30] <astraljava> urgodfather: Oh ok, that's good.
[04:30] <astraljava> Then you could hit the 'Affects me too' button on it.
[04:34] <urgodfather> astraljava:  there are several for the same issues which im not satisfied with... no need for redundancies
[04:37] <astraljava> urgodfather: What do you mean by that? The 'Affects me too' button should just add some heat to the bug, meaning there are better chances for the bug to get resolved.
[04:37] <astraljava> urgodfather: Have a try: http://astraljava.kapsi.fi/synaptics-touchpad_16.0.0-1_i386.deb
[04:37] <urgodfather> sorry, i tend to overlook bug reports when im looking for a solution
[04:38] <astraljava> Understandable. I just to help people keep that process in mind. :)
[04:57] <urgodfather> astraljava: installed beautifully
[04:57] <urgodfather> thanks a million
[04:57] <astraljava> No probs. As a returned favor, please hit the 'Affects me too' button on a bug that matches your issues. :)
[04:57] <urgodfather> the question is, do i need to restart to take effect
[04:58] <urgodfather> you got it, for now on i will take the time to do so
[05:03] <astraljava> urgodfather: Possibly, or at least rmmod/modprobe.
[06:22] <archwiccan> question i deleted my pannels to make them the way I want but in the add to pannel area I dont have anything so my minimized windows can go to my pannel
[06:25] <well_laid_lawn> two points - there's only one n in panel and the thing you're looking for is called systray
[06:25] <well_laid_lawn> iirc
[06:25] <archwiccan> i found it
[06:25] <well_laid_lawn> excellent
[06:27] <archwiccan> how long you been using xubuntu
[06:28] <well_laid_lawn> since 2006 roughly
[06:29] <archwiccan> cool, I recently came here, been mainly an Arch linux user but honestly just didn't wanna go through a long install this time :P
[06:29] <astraljava> Systray?
[06:31] <well_laid_lawn> how did you make installing arch take a long time?
[06:32] <archwiccan> new hardware,  this is a new pc so i just know something will screw up lol
[06:33] <well_laid_lawn> heh
[06:33] <archwiccan> tried archbang but kept crashig during install
[10:28] <ferry> Hello, I'm running xubuntu and i recently lost the plugin for my active windows on the panel. Now i don't know how to get it back, since it's not listed in the plugin list from the panel. Can someone help me please?
[13:36] <kondi> Xubuntu 12.04 : volume automatically keeps increasing-decreasing until any audio is playing.
[13:38] <kondi> and I don't want to turn off the indicator plugin cause you know why
[14:01] <ochosi> kondi: that sounds more like a broken keyboard, i've never heard of that before
[14:12] <kondi> ochosi well I thought about that too, just asked to know if anyone else knew about this. :)
[14:12] <ochosi> k :)
[14:12] <ochosi> have you tried a different keyboard?
[14:34] <martinphone> 3 days ago my craptop started acting weird: 10 seconds it responds to my commands (keyboard or mouse) and 10 seconds it absolutely freezes. Firefox gives me 600MB peaks, I have been shutting down apps to see if those were related (i2p, freenet, torrent) but i still get the 10 second pauses, for xubuntu 12.04 with a 2GB RAM machine
[14:34] <martinphone> now, it freezed again
[14:35] <martinphone> no browser opened now, just task manager, a folder and xchat
[14:35] <martinphone> and what is kworker1:1?
[14:36] <ochosi> something kernel-related
[14:36] <martinphone> 50% peaks that one
[14:37] <martinphone> now, it freezed again (2)
[14:37] <martinphone> and again
[14:38] <ochosi> martinphone: have you tested this with a live-system?
[14:38] <ochosi> just to see whether it's a hardware or software-issue
[14:38] <ochosi> if the live-system is fine, you can always down/up-grade your kernel
[14:38] <martinphone> no ochosi
[14:39] <ochosi> if the live-system has the same problem, you can start to disable components :p
[14:39] <kondi> @ochosi it
[14:40] <kondi> ochosi it's on a laptop
[14:40] <ochosi> kondi: that's bad luck
[14:40] <martinphone> 3.2.0.26, has that kernel given anyone any problems?
[14:40] <v1adimir> martinphone: where are you in ##333? :(
[14:40] <kondi> ochosi tell me about it :)
[14:40] <ochosi> kondi: you can try to kill xfce4-volumed so that the media-keys are disabled and see whether it helps
[14:41] <martinphone> im not v1adimir
[14:41] <kondi> sure I'll try it
[14:41] <v1adimir> yes, i can see. :f
[14:45] <kondi> ochosi it worked! :D
[14:45] <kondi> thanks
[14:45] <ochosi> kondi: no problem. in that case you should probably also uninstall the corresponding package...
[14:48] <kondi> hmm
[14:49] <ochosi> or at least stop it from autostarting
[15:07] <ataq> hey trying to install xubuntu 11.10 but the disk starts up and the screen goes out of range. there is no xorg.conf file present, and it wont allow me to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, any ideas?
[15:14] <well_laid_lawn> ataq: check the available modes in a terminal with   xrandr -q
[15:14] <well_laid_lawn> set a different one with   xrandr -s 1280x1024   or whatever size
[15:17] <ataq> I'll try that now, thanks man
[15:18] <ataq> its saying cant open display to that well_laid_lawn
[15:19] <well_laid_lawn> ataq: you don't have a X running?
[15:20] <ataq> it starts out of range, so I just press ctrl alt and F1 to go to bash. GDM is running but I cant see it
[15:21] <well_laid_lawn> do you know the graphics card
[15:21] <genii-around> Could try maybe the old way to cycle through resolutions, something like ctrl-alt and then the numberpad + and -
[15:22] <ataq> Its an ATI Rage,
[15:23] <ataq> genii-around, it worked, thats a good one to know!!!!! Thanks guys!
[15:23] <genii-around> np
[15:23] <well_laid_lawn> I didn't know about that one either
[15:24] <ataq> Thats a sweet one to know, saves alot of arsing around
[15:28] <genii-around> It's useful to at least get something usable so you can get into X and then fix the actual issue
[15:40] <milne8204> my google-chrome-stable does not start any ideas what can be wrong ?
[15:42] <OUI> perhaps running in console with firefox &
[15:43] <OUI> and/or checking the log will tell
[15:44] <Kingsy> anyone ever experimented with loading the operating system in RAM?
[15:44] <Kingsy> I have 24GB of ram, so it seems like a viable solution to get UBER speed outta my system
[15:45] <OUI> ^ nice
[15:45] <OUI> try it in some vm that can act that way?
[15:46] <Kingsy> huh?
[15:46] <Kingsy> OUI: are you talking to me?
[15:46] <OUI> a vm that can load the os in ram, yes
[15:46] <Kingsy> I don't want to load a vm into ram, I  want to run ubuntu from ram
[15:47] <OUI> uhh make the vm, or whatever emulation can do it - load ubuntu in ram
[15:47] <OUI> perhaps better than destroying your system, that's what I was asking :)
[16:12] <OUI> can someone help with UFW, im using Precise desktop, but how can i get the log / report / whatever will show me any inbound requests, since it's set to block all (looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/firewall.html#firewall-logs it seems there are a bunch of options, but idk what to use)
[16:13] <OUI> if you don't mind, pls; would pretty much need a walk-through, sorta
[17:08] <OUI> is anyone using UFW, how do you view reports / logs for (blocked) inbound attempts pls?
[17:22] <[Relic]> can what appears as the top menu bar be configured to the bottom of the screen?  (never used xubunutu so far)
[17:23] <Unit193> You can move the panels all around, yep.
[17:35] <OUI> right-click, panel, panel preferences (1 & 2 default)
[17:35] <OUI> oh panel 0 and 1
[17:40] <OUI> .. just unlock it and drag
[18:03] <[Relic]> then once I figure out how I am going to switch around my HD I will get around to installing xubuntu
[18:12] <martinphone> older kernels reproduce the freeze problem
[18:13] <martinphone> could it be the high local temperatures and the massive use of the craptop? for 4 hours or more...
[18:15] <Sysi> martinphone: install lm-sensors and run sudo sensors-detect and maybe reboot
[18:22] <martinphone> how long does it take to scan?
[18:28] <martinphone> * Chip `Intel digital thermal sensor' (confidence: 9)
[18:29] <martinphone> craptop still freezes, it just did
[18:29] <martinphone> 2 times in a minute
[19:14] <benedikt_>  is anybody here?
[19:15] <benedikt_> heeellop
[19:15] <benedikt_> heeelloo
[19:15] <Unit193> !ask
[19:16] <benedikt_> is xubuntu running fast on a toshiba tecra s2 with 1gb ram?
[19:17] <benedikt_> cuz i want to host an apache server on it :D
[19:18] <Unit193> Is it?  That'd be for you to say.  Should it run fine on that? Sure, but if you're just running apache I don't see why you wouldn't either use -server or !mini
[19:18] <benedikt_> cuz i want an gui
[19:18] <genii-around> Yes, usually for a straight webserver just some headless box, then use zentyal for admin
[19:19] <benedikt_> i want to run a minecraft server too on this server
[19:19] <genii-around> For minecraft, screen
[19:19] <Sysi> I'd go for lubuntu or just installing fluxbox or something if I really wanted GUI for server
[19:20] <benedikt_> thx
[19:21] <benedikt_> its cuz i am not often using command shell, usually i'm using win7 and ubuntu on my good pc
[19:21] <benedikt_> sorry for my english, i'm still studying
[19:26] <benedikt_> and: will logmein hamachi work?
[19:27] <benedikt_> and: i've downloaded it: it works
[19:28] <blackgatonegro> logmein hamachi?
[19:28] <blackgatonegro> What is that?
[19:36] <genii-around> blackgatonegro: Basically a dyndns client
[19:37] <blackgatonegro> ah
[19:38] <Os_Maleus> hi together! can somebody tell me, where I find my e-mails saved on my local machine by using kontact respectively kmail?
[19:38] <Os_Maleus> was that not somehow under .kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/ ?
[21:53] <Kingsy> guys, I have just edited my /etc/network/interfaces file to set my eth0 to static. and it works.. but everytime I restart ifconfig doesnt show the eth0 interface until I bring up the device with ifup eth0   how do you get it automatic like it was on dhcp ?
[21:55] <astraljava> Kingsy: 'auto eth0' is missing from before the 'iface eth0...' stanza?
[21:55] <Kingsy> ahhhhh
[21:55] <Kingsy> thankyou sir
[21:55] <astraljava> np
[22:16] <UUUnicorn> Hello? Is anyone here?
[22:16] <knome> only us robots.
[22:16] <UUUnicorn> LOL!
[22:17] <UUUnicorn> How are you?
[22:17] <knome> fine. can we help you with xubuntu?
[22:18] <UUUnicorn> I ran Update Manager today, and there were updates to install. I did this, then restarted the computer (I was prompted to do so). Now, PulseAudio Volume Control isn't working--there's no sound.
[22:18] <UUUnicorn> Has anyone else had this problem?
[22:20] <Kingsy> something actually really weird has happened.. I changed my ip to static using the interfaces file and resolv.conf .. now the network-manager has vanished from the top panel.. its not running anymore why?
[22:21] <Kingsy> I do want network manager to handle my connections
[22:22] <UUUnicorn> knome?
[22:23] <Kingsy> knome?
[22:23] <Kingsy> oh.. was that not for me
[22:23] <UUUnicorn> Sorry--was chatting with knome.
[22:23] <knome> UUUnicorn, Kingsy: i don't know. while you wait for somebody who might know, you can check other places such as forums and askubuntu.com
[22:23] <Unit193> UUUnicorn: Could be several reasons, I'll link to a page I've found helpful https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio
[22:23] <Kingsy> Unit193: yeah I am looking.. there isnt much info about this..
[22:24] <UUUnicorn> Thank you--will do.
[22:24] <UUUnicorn> Thanks again.
[22:24] <Unit193> Hope it helps.
[22:24] <Kingsy> lol total confusion with nicknames there
[22:24] <knome> Kingsy, afaik, networkmanager will only manage networks that aren't managed by interfaces
[22:24] <Kingsy> knome: so remove eth0 from interfaces :)
[22:24] <Unit193> !resolvconf |Also, new method
[22:24] <knome> Kingsy, yes, i suppose that should work
[22:25] <Kingsy> ok 1 sec brb
[23:04] <xubuntu421> HI
[23:04] <xubuntu421> someboody, plis
[23:05] <SkippersBoss> !ask | xubuntu421
[23:05] <xubuntu421> Im users new, and  need help me
[23:06] <xubuntu421> hi
[23:07] <Unit193> ...But never asked.
[23:07] <SkippersBoss> :-)