[14:56]  * skaet waves
[14:56] <mdeslaur> hi!
[14:56] <skaet> hiya mdeslaur :)
[14:57] <ScottK> \0
[14:59] <brendand> hi!
[14:59] <arosales> hello
[15:00] <skaet> :)
[15:00] <skaet> looks like quorum has emerged.  :)
[15:00] <skaet> #startmeeting
[15:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Jun 29 15:00:47 2012 UTC.  The chair is skaet. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:01] <skaet> Agenda (and minute location):
[15:01] <skaet> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2012-06-29
[15:01] <skaet> .
[15:01] <skaet> Upcoming dates:
[15:01] <skaet> 2012/07/05 - DebianImportFreeze
[15:01] <skaet> 2012/07/23 - Alpha 3 image candidates start
[15:01] <skaet> 2012/07/26 - Alpha 3
[15:01] <skaet> .
[15:01] <skaet> Work Items:
[15:01] <skaet> 2012/06/29 -  2782 (was 2926 last week):  BEHIND trendline for this point.
[15:01] <skaet> Please help get us back where we should be by making sure https://launchpad.net/~/+upcomingwork is up to date for your tasks.
[15:01] <skaet> .
[15:01] <skaet> Bugs:
[15:01] <skaet> Quantal: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[15:01] <skaet> 12.04.1:http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html
[15:01] <skaet> .
[15:01] <skaet> A2 Testing Report: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/QuantalAlpha2TestReport
[15:01] <skaet> Thank you to all the testers, and jibel for coordinating, and another excellent job in highlighting the key issues in a timely fashion.  :)
[15:01] <skaet> .
[15:01] <skaet> Pending action items:
[15:01] <skaet> [skaet] - SRU team vanguards: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/#Publishing - DONE
[15:01] <skaet> [seb128] - summarize on ubuntu-release mail list what desktop wants for 12.04.1 (201206 15:15:33:13) - ?
[15:01] <skaet> [skaet] - start off a blueprint for -r release for people to record ideas and thoughts on logical steps for making progress to the long term goal. (skaet, 20120622 16:25:27) - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-r-future-release-brainstorming - DONE
[15:01] <skaet> .
[15:01] <skaet> Weekly Status Received:
[15:01] <skaet> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001462.html -hw cert: brendand
[15:01] <skaet> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001465.html- security: mdeslaurs
[15:02] <skaet> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001467.html - desktop: seb128
[15:02] <skaet> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001468.html - kernel: ogasawara
[15:02] <skaet> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001469.html - community testing: balloons
[15:02] <skaet> ** 2100 UTC - due time ^ Thank you to those who submitted on time **
[15:02] <skaet> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001471.html - lubuntu: gilir
[15:02] <skaet> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001472.html - server: arosales
[15:02] <skaet> ** Reminder,  please get your team's summary in by 2100 UTC, so there's time to prep, take care of issues on the mail list, and keep the meeting short.
[15:02] <skaet> ..
[15:03] <skaet> #topic Questions and Comments.
[15:03] <skaet> hiya,  any other team minutes available that I missed in my last pass?
[15:03] <seb128> hey
[15:03] <skaet> Reminder: DebianImportFreeze is next Thursday 7/5,  after that all imports will need to be explicit.
[15:04] <skaet> Thank you to stgraber and balloons for the updates to the iso tracker,  new features rolled out nice and smooth for A2 from my perspective.  :)
[15:04] <seb128> sorry I assumed we had no meeting after alpha2 (as we didn't have one after a1 IIRC) ... anyway I'm here ;-)
[15:04] <ScottK> Debian's freeze for Wheezy release is tomorrow, so the amount of new stuff from Debian should start to drop off in any case.
[15:04] <skaet> thanks seb128,  with holidays coming up,  and A2 being so smooth (overall),  seemed prudent to have one before DebianImportFreeze
[15:05] <seb128> yeah, makes sense ;-)
[15:05] <skaet> General request:  Leads please work through your alpha 2 work items, and for those items not accomplished,  please retarget or postpone.   Burn downs are showing us fallling behind where we wanted to be.
[15:05] <skaet> ..
[15:05] <skaet> anyone else have comments/questions before I start into my list?
[15:05] <ogra_> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001473.html - foundations: ogra
[15:05] <ogra_> (sorry !)
[15:06] <skaet> thanks ogra_ :)
[15:06] <skaet> seb128,  any update on the pending action item to post what desktop looks to land for 12.04.1?   (did I miss it on the ubuntu-release list?)
[15:08] <seb128> sorry
[15:08] <seb128> skaet, I mentioned it last week in reply to my weekly report email
[15:09] <seb128> "I also had an action item to check what images the desktop team wants to support for the LTS .1 release: we will keep doing what we did for previous LTSes, and support the same set of images that for the release, including the DVD ones. "
[15:09] <seb128> skaet, ^
[15:09] <skaet> thanks seb128.  I'll mark it done then.  :)
[15:09] <seb128> thanks
[15:09] <skaet> ..
[15:09] <skaet> brendand, do you have a prioritized list (ie. most to least important) of the bugs cert wants fixed for 12.04.1?   is bug 1013843 the key blocker?
[15:10] <brendand> skaet, as far as i know that's only in quantal
[15:10] <skaet> brendand,  ok.  :)
[15:11] <brendand> skaet, as for prioritization, i will need to discuss with ara. when would you like a list by - and how many bugs? 5? 10?
[15:11] <brendand> skaet, or all of them, just prioritized?
[15:11] <skaet> brendand,  top 5 most impact to fix would be good,  or a list in descending order of inpact,  so we can get some focus.
[15:12] <skaet> possible to mail something out to ubuntu-release mail list by next week?
[15:12] <brendand> skaet, asap
[15:12] <highvoltage> ~/win 12
[15:13] <skaet> :) ok,  will add it to the actions.  :)
[15:13] <skaet> ..
[15:13] <skaet> mdeslaurs,  for those AA uploads, is there someone identified, or just waiting in queue?
[15:13] <brendand> skaet, about the 1013843 bug, i wanted to ask stgraber if he is blocked trying to reproduce it?
[15:14] <stgraber> brendand: I'm not, just busy with other things
[15:14] <brendand> stgraber, ok. whatever resources you need to try and reproduce it, the guys in montreal can provide
[15:15] <skaet> ..?
[15:15] <stgraber> brendand: I have a netboot setup at home so should be easy to reproduce locally (though the fixes I pushed in quantal were specifically to make it work ;))
[15:15] <stgraber> ..
[15:16] <skaet> mdeslaur, ^  (sorry about the typo on your nick)
[15:16] <seb128> skaet, tab completion is handy ;-)
[15:17] <skaet> yup.
[15:17] <mdeslaur> skaet: jdstrand is identified, or he may sponsor sbeattie
[15:18] <skaet> coolio,  just wanted to make sure wasn't going to linger over holidays/debconf/etc.  :)
[15:18] <skaet> ..
[15:19] <skaet> seb128, does it make sense to ask balloons to get the new gtk's ally enablement tested by the community?  Would be nice to get early feedback, and a chance to fix before we get to beta.
[15:19]  * skaet notes that balloons will need to be followed up by with email. 
[15:19] <seb128> skaet, that would be great
[15:20] <seb128> skaet, balloons: check with TheMuso if you need details on what needs testing
[15:20] <seb128> skaet, balloons: a slightly more detailed email on the topic is on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2012-June/003868.html
[15:21] <skaet> seb128,  ok,  I'll put in a request and copy you and TheMuso on it.
[15:21] <seb128> thanks
[15:21] <skaet> ..
[15:21] <skaet> seb128,  popey,  when will the next unity, compiz drops land?
[15:22] <seb128> unity for quantal is being worked
[15:22] <seb128> next week if everything goes well
[15:22] <seb128> new compiz landed this week
[15:22] <popey> oh hai, didnt realise there was a meeting right now
[15:22] <popey> what seb128 says :)
[15:23] <seb128> we should have another compiz within 2 weeks with gsettings support (finger crossed)
[15:23] <popey> quantal + nux should be testing monday, release tuesday
[15:23] <seb128> gsettings code is being worked, sam estimates to a good week of work so I count on 2 weeks for landing if that goes well
[15:23] <popey> thanks seb128
[15:23] <ogra_> we're still waiting for upstream to merge the gles patches for arm
[15:23] <ogra_> (compiz that is)
[15:24] <seb128> ogra_, that will be after gsettings, don't count before a month
[15:24] <seb128> ..
[15:24] <ogra_> current compiz is built with gles support, which will not work on arm
[15:24] <seb128> ogra_, right, well they have 2 compiz maintainers and work for 5, there is only so much they can get done at the time
[15:24] <ogra_> (that doesnt matter much though since we have no working drivers for any arm platform yet, waiting for TI as usual)
[15:25] <seb128> gsettings is first then they will do gles
[15:25] <seb128> ..
[15:25] <skaet> thanks seb128, popey, ogra_ .  ok, that helps with setting the expectations.
[15:25] <ogra_> seb128, i didnt mean to blame anyone or so :) just wanted to throw it in the meeting so people are aware and dont complain that their pandas dont show bling ;)
[15:26] <seb128> ogra_, my panda doesn't show screen atm, let's talk after bling later :p
[15:26] <ogra_> seb128, if there would have been dailies today, these would have a fix for that ;)
[15:26] <ogra_> ..
[15:26] <skaet> ogra_, yeah glad you brought it up,  sounds like its going to get close to feature freeze then before its all working,  which is a bit worrying.
[15:26] <skaet> ..
[15:27] <ogra_> skaet, well, as i understand it, upstream expects that *all* plugins are ported to GLES before accepting the patch
[15:27] <ogra_> linaros patch only ports the ones we use in ubuntu
[15:27] <ogra_> ..
[15:27] <skaet> ogra_, yeah that could indeed make things *interesting* :P
[15:27] <ogra_> right
[15:28] <seb128> that's being sorted, they will not block on that
[15:28] <seb128> still there is a bit of work needed
[15:28] <ogra_> not much we can do about it though
[15:28] <seb128> and they go asked to finish gsettings first since blocks desktop updates
[15:28] <seb128> i.e part of GNOME is blocked on it
[15:28] <seb128> and that work is overdue (it was meant to land in oneiric)
[15:28] <ogra_> well, as long as there is a chance it makes FF
[15:28] <seb128> that should be fine
[15:29] <ogra_> if not, it would be good to know about that early enough so we can think of alternatives
[15:29] <seb128> as said it should be one extra week or max 2 to clear the gsettings stuff and the important bug fixes they are on
[15:29] <ogra_> ok, that sounds fine
[15:29] <seb128> then it's gles, which hopefully with take 1 or 2 weeks
[15:29] <seb128> I will keep you guys updated
[15:29] <seb128> ..
[15:29] <skaet> ogra_,   on the subject of worrying,  who has the lead for java on arm?   is there a good pointer to the plan for that part?  (me may have missed it in her last pass)
[15:29] <ogra_> thx
[15:29] <ogra_> ..
[15:30] <ogra_> skaet, hmm, usually thats doko, not sure, probably infinity is on it too nowadays
[15:30] <ogra_> i can collect info on that for next week
[15:31] <skaet> ogra_, that would be appreciated.  :)  Thanks!
[15:31] <skaet> ..
[15:31]  * skaet looks around to see if anyone else has questions?
[15:33] <skaet> looks like that's it then for this week.
[15:33] <skaet> Next week I'll be on vacation,  and pgraner will be hosting the meeting.
[15:34] <skaet> Thanks ogra_, arosales, mdeslaur,  seb128, brendand, popey, stgraber, ScottK
[15:34] <skaet> #endmeeting
[15:34] <meetingology> Meeting ended Fri Jun 29 15:34:03 2012 UTC.
[15:34] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-06-29-15.00.moin.txt
[15:34] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-06-29-15.00.html
[15:34] <stgraber> thanks!
[15:34] <mdeslaur> thanks skaet!
[15:34] <ogra_> thanks skaet
[15:34] <seb128> skaet, thanks, enjoy your vacs!
[15:34] <arosales> thanks skaet for chairing :-)
[21:04] <ajmitch> #startmeeting
[21:04] <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Jun 29 21:04:37 2012 UTC.  The chair is ajmitch. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[21:05] <ajmitch> OK, arb agenda is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Agenda
[21:05]  * stgraber waves
[21:05]  * highvoltage splashes
[21:06] <ajmitch> was looking over http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-05-25-21.09.log.html from the last meeting, there weren't any actions added aside from the UDS items
[21:07]  * wendar waves
[21:07] <ajmitch> yay, people :)
[21:08] <highvoltage> I'm really tired so sorry for my lack of enthusiasm :)
[21:08] <ajmitch> do we want to quickly go over the developer portal bugs, or just be happy that they're there & being looked at? :)
[21:09]  * ajmitch mostly wants to get people voting on submissions, fwiw :)
[21:09] <highvoltage> Ok, I'll catch up with the votes tomorrow. And also all the nice things dolbach has been talking about.
[21:10] <ajmitch> yeah, I've been talking with dholbach a bit & following what he's been doing with the apps branch & arb-lint
[21:10] <highvoltage> and also try to get some sense of how many competition apps there are and what I can do about it
[21:10] <ajmitch> apparantly there are 30+ for the competition
[21:10] <ajmitch> I expect some won't be packaged for /opt/extras.ubuntu.com
[21:11] <ajmitch> this sort of covers some of the UDS workitems, with the competition & the tools for reviewing
[21:12] <ajmitch> one thing that came up this week was whether ~ubuntu-dev should be added to the ~ubuntu-app-review-contributors team
[21:12] <ajmitch> thoughts?
[21:14] <highvoltage> sounds like it makes sense
[21:14] <highvoltage> the more the arb process is integrated in the rest of ubuntu, the better
[21:14] <highvoltage> (imho)
[21:15] <ajmitch> it'd allow any ubuntu developer to commit to the branches dholbach is importing, and let them comment & change state of apps on myapps
[21:15] <ajmitch> which I think is fine
[21:15] <ajmitch> assuming you find the branches useful
[21:15] <wendar> well, remember that ubuntu-app-review-contributors gets special access in MyApps
[21:16] <wendar> do we want to grant that to all ubuntu-devs?
[21:16] <ajmitch> right, that's what I'm asking
[21:16] <wendar> it seems like some kind of verification step makes sense
[21:16] <ajmitch> since changing the myapps state doesn't affect a whole lot unless they're rejected
[21:17] <highvoltage> I guess in that case they might as well just join #ubuntu-arb and ask to be added
[21:17] <highvoltage> (or mail or whatever)
[21:17] <wendar> I thought review contributors could do more than just change state?
[21:18] <highvoltage> what's the concern? that someone might do something malicious?
[21:19] <wendar> more concerned about accidental disruptive changes, from people who don't know the interface yet
[21:19] <wendar> it's still a little buggy
[21:19] <wendar> but, if they really only have access to comment and non-destructive state changes, then I have no concern
[21:19] <wendar> it is worth asking ubuntu-dev if they *want* to be added though
[21:20] <wendar> aren't there default notifications sent out to review contributors?
[21:20] <wendar> or, is that only direct to the arb mailing list, and not individual notifications?
[21:20] <ajmitch> that's what dholbach was checking, he said he hadn't received any
[21:21] <wendar> is that because they're going to ubuntu-app-review-board members? or to the mailing list?
[21:21] <ajmitch> to the mailing list
[21:22] <wendar> ok, limited access and not spamming ubuntu-devs are my only concerns
[21:23] <wendar> if that's all sorted, and ubuntu-dev wants to be added, I'm fine with it
[21:23] <ajmitch> alright
[21:23] <highvoltage> sounds reasonable
[21:23] <stgraber> +1
[21:23] <wendar> another possibility is to just ask achuni to grant access to all ubuntu-dev, without joining up the launchpad teams
[21:23] <ajmitch> it's a bit hard to ask a team that encompasses everyone with upload rights, ~ubuntu-dev is often added to other teams
[21:24] <ajmitch> that could work
[21:24]  * ajmitch just wants more people reviewing
[21:24] <wendar> yeah, making that as easy as possible is a good idea
[21:25] <wendar> though, there something neat about being granted priviledges when you join a team :)
[21:25] <ajmitch> ideally we'd have some active arb helpers who could then go on to the arb team (election, appointment, whatever) & vote on apps
[21:26] <ajmitch> the term length is indefinite in LP for some reason, but I know we all won't want to do this forever :)
[21:29] <ajmitch> ok, that vaguely covers the recruiting agenda item from last month
[21:30]  * ajmitch isn't sure if any of us have managed to set aside a regular reviewing time lately, so will skip that :)
[21:30] <ajmitch> #topic General state of the ARB queue
[21:30] <wendar> ajmitch: hmmm... we all had term expirations last I checked...
[21:30] <ajmitch> I'm worried that applications are getting lost in the voting process
[21:30] <ajmitch> wendar: I checked the other day, we no longer do
[21:31] <wendar> ajmitch: how odd. I know mine's coming up soon
[21:31] <ajmitch> https://launchpad.net/~app-review-board/+members shows no expiry dates
[21:32] <wendar> ajmitch: yup, you're right
[21:32] <wendar> ajmitch: well, it's 2 years after start anyway
[21:32] <ajmitch> it's a life sentence :)
[21:32] <highvoltage> oh dear
[21:33] <wendar> so, 3 of us are out this September
[21:33] <wendar> but, I don't think we should wait until then to add new people
[21:33] <ajmitch> no, nominally there are 7 on the board, but a couple haven't been heard from for quite some time
[21:33] <wendar> really, I'd be happy to treat it as more of a promotion process
[21:33] <ajmitch> so would I
[21:34] <wendar> we'd still need to do the poll of all ubuntu-devs
[21:34] <wendar> but, it could be on a one-off basis
[21:34] <ajmitch> & not require adjusting quorum for votes on apps, even universe just requred 2 +1s from MOTUs for new apps
[21:34] <wendar> yeah, quorum is a fixed number, shouldn't vary by the size of the board
[21:35] <wendar> (it already is that way, so no change needed)
[21:35] <ajmitch> we've struggled to get 3 votes lately, I know everyone's been busy (myself included)
[21:35] <wendar> ajmitch: yes, I'm thinking I may switch to making voting my first priority
[21:35] <ajmitch> I came across an example of a lens that had the vote started about 7 weeks ago, but never got to +3
[21:35] <wendar> especially if we get some regular arb contributors
[21:36] <ajmitch> what do you think of a trello board for being able to see the state of the apps being worked on & reviewed? too much duplication?
[21:36] <highvoltage> yeah I think it makes sense priorotising voting, the last thing we want is a backlog of perfectly good apps.
[21:36] <wendar> reviewing an app that's already been cleaned up takes a lot less time than cleaning up a new one
[21:36] <wendar> ajmitch: yeah, I wondered about using trello too
[21:36] <ajmitch> really, the arb's only role should need to be voting
[21:37] <wendar> ajmitch: it doesn't have to be a lot of work to maintain trello, if it's just the name and link for each app
[21:37] <ajmitch> we can all do package clean up if we want, but voting is the main task
[21:37] <ajmitch> wendar: right
[21:37] <wendar> trello is far, far simpler to maintain than a wiki page for app status :)
[21:37] <ajmitch> that way if you put an app up for vote, move it to the voting list in trello so we can see what to look at
[21:37]  * ajmitch uses it a bit at work now
[21:38] <wendar> and we can grant arb contributors full edit rights on trello
[21:38] <ajmitch> yep
[21:38] <wendar> and, any app submitter can quickly check the status of their app
[21:38] <ajmitch> stgraber, highvoltage: in favour of it?
[21:38] <highvoltage> yep
[21:40] <stgraber> sounds good
[21:40] <ajmitch> #action ajmitch to set up trello board for tracking application votes & reviewer notes
[21:40] <meetingology> ACTION: ajmitch to set up trello board for tracking application votes & reviewer notes
[21:40] <ajmitch> ok
[21:40]  * ajmitch thought this weekend was going to be completely full with work, but it seems next weekend will be
[21:41] <ajmitch> dholbach's suggested this apps sprint this week, I'll probably be lurking around #ubuntu-arb in the evenings as usual
[21:42] <ajmitch> not sure how crazy everyones' schedules are, but it'd be nice to get through a few apps for the competition over the next few days
[21:42] <wendar> Sunday is okay for me this week
[21:42] <wendar> and Wednesday is a holiday
[21:43] <ajmitch> lucky :)
[21:43] <wendar> but otherwise I've got a couple hours in the morning and a couple in the evening
[21:43] <wendar> so, I can do short snippets
[21:43] <ajmitch> any time is helpful
[21:43] <wendar> but, not big stuff
[21:43] <wendar> like, a whole app review usually takes me 4 hours
[21:43] <wendar> (with finding and fixing bugs)
[21:43] <ajmitch> I can understand that, it can be quite involved
[21:44] <ajmitch> we'll try & get some cleaned up apps for voting on
[21:44] <wendar> I know I've got a couple that are just about ready to go up for vote
[21:44] <ajmitch> they should take less time
[21:44] <wendar> so, I can focus on those for this week
[21:44] <wendar> and, on voting on the ones that are already up for vote
[21:44] <wendar> does trello let you assign a task to a person/
[21:45] <wendar> ?
[21:45] <ajmitch> yes
[21:45] <ajmitch> just drag their icon onto the card
[21:45] <wendar> cool, that'll help
[21:45] <ajmitch> I'll probably need to get the email you use for trello so I can add people
[21:45] <wendar> like, when I'm working on an app, I can put it in an active channel, and then tag it with my user
[21:46] <wendar> because honestly, right now it'll take me 30minutes just to find all my active apps, check on their status, and figure out what the next step is for each :(
[21:46] <ajmitch> yeah, and you can leave comments on each card, it's fairly quick to use
[21:47] <wendar> okay, that'll help alot :)
[21:48] <ajmitch> with that, is there any other business to talk about?
[21:48] <ajmitch> apart from the meeting time & the next chair
[21:50] <wendar> sounds like not :)
[21:50] <ajmitch> ok :)
[21:50] <ajmitch> does this meeting time still work for people, and who volunteers to be the next chair? :)
[21:53]  * ajmitch will have to volunteer someone for it soon
[21:53] <ajmitch> highvoltage: you're next alphabetically, available for it next month?
[21:53] <highvoltage> ajmitch: ok
[21:54] <ajmitch> thanks
[21:54] <ajmitch> next meeting at 21:00UTC on 27 july
[21:54] <ajmitch> #endmeeting
[21:54] <meetingology> Meeting ended Fri Jun 29 21:54:59 2012 UTC.
[21:54] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-06-29-21.04.moin.txt
[21:54] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-06-29-21.04.html
[21:55] <ajmitch> thanks everyone
[21:55] <wendar> thanks ajmitch!
[21:55] <ajmitch> you can go & have your friday drinks now, if you haven't started already
[21:55] <highvoltage> thank ajmitch
[21:55] <wendar> hah, I've got to launch 2 features before friday drinks :)
[21:56] <wendar> (launching them after is not a good idea, we used to do that in the dot-com days ;)
[21:56] <highvoltage> wendar: ouch! good luck :)
[21:56]  * ajmitch was going to be spending all day today doing work, but that's deferred thankfully :)
[21:56] <wendar> ajmitch: happy Saturday :)
[21:57] <ajmitch> heh, thanks