[02:17] <bazhang> whoops
[02:18] <bazhang> so busy configuring sasl, forgot to join here
[02:18] <IdleOne> Did you get it sorted out?
[02:19] <bazhang> not yet
[02:26] <bazhang> it has a higher number, must be better
[02:26] <Jordan_U> It is in fact a pretty great release, but most users shouldn't care.
[02:27] <bazhang> seriously doubt he needs it or knows why it's better
[02:27] <Jordan_U> That's pretty clear.
[02:28] <bazhang> kernel 3.5.something has tonnes of fixes, too
[02:30] <bazhang> at any rate grub2 is being shelved for future versions of Ubuntu, if sources are to be believed
[02:33] <Unit193> I thought it was only for hardware that needs EFI support.
[02:36] <Jordan_U> bazhang: Unit193: Only for hardware with UEFI secure boot enabled. And IMHO (IANAL) they are misunderstanding the requirements of the GPLv3.
[02:51] <Unit193> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEyODc Just read that, funny timing. :P
[02:52] <bazhang> hehe
[04:02] <bazhang> the fbots are MIA
[04:08] <bazhang> and johnD is back to -ot
[04:49] <bazhang> @mark #ubuntu-offtopic Guest45423 (johnD) flooding
[05:04] <bazhang> at least ryaxnb responds on occasion
 I now have Ubuntu and a new pc with high specs running flawlessly, can somebody suggest a good chair for sitting comfortably in?
[06:34] <bkerensa> >.<
[13:40] <Pici> !notunity =~ s/10 uses/10 and higher use/
[14:24] <LjL> is yandex381 generally a problem? i think i've seen him say irrelevant things a bunch of times
[14:27] <oCean> If he says anything, which is every now and then, it is offtopic mostly offtopic
[14:27] <oCean> little redundancy there
[14:28] <LjL> is the department of redundancy department
[15:13] <h00k> It'd be kinda funny to send jono to ##fix-your-connection
[15:18] <Myrtti> I can do it for offtopic if you do it for u ;-)
[15:18] <Myrtti> not yet tho
[15:21] <h00k> Myrtti: let me know if you decide to, it's not so bad yet.
[15:56] <bazhang> why is tables repeatedly asking the same thing
[16:05] <mneptok> usually if tables return duplicate output, blame the SELECT statement.
[16:06] <bazhang> hehe
[16:51] <bazhang> augh did sidewinder just do a !list for an italian user?
[16:51] <oCean> yes
[16:51] <oCean> no
[16:51] <oCean> well
[16:51] <bazhang> ah it was an .nl user
[16:52] <oCean> someone says ciao, ... indeed
[16:52] <bazhang> still, incredibly silly
[16:52] <oCean> He used to say "... here comes the !list, wait for it...."
[17:13] <Sidewinder> At your service. :)
[17:13] <IdleOne> Thanks for joining. I just wanted to bring something up real quick
[17:13] <IdleOne> Sidewinder: I noticed you did a !list to a user who said hello in Italian. I want to ask you not to do that again, stereotyping like that is just wrong and very rude.
[17:14] <IdleOne> That was all :)
[17:15] <Sidewinder> ocean brought that to my attention; here is/was my response to him:oCean, My humblest apologies if I 'jumped the gun'; it's just that I can't remember a greeting of ciao or ciao a tutti that wasn't immediately followed by the 'list' command. Your disapproval is noted and you may rest assured that that sort of response will not be repeated; at least from me. :)
 Sidewinder: thanks
[17:15] <IdleOne> I was not aware oCean had already brought it up.
[17:16] <IdleOne> Sorry for the doubling up of work :)
[17:16] <IdleOne> We appreciate your understanding.
[17:19] <Sidewinder> Again, humblest apologies; I am aware that many of you have tried to 'decipher' the mistaken assumption that the ubuntu channels can/may be used as warez. I guess it'll just remain a "mystery of our times". Sorry for sausing you 'double duty', and thanks to you and all of the other ops for your most valued services. I think you all should get a raise! ;-)
[17:19] <IdleOne> hah. lets start by getting paid frst
[17:20] <IdleOne> first*
[17:20] <Sidewinder> That's a good start. :) Have a good one..
[18:53] <LjL> the "PPAs unsupported" thing is open to so many bad interpretations
[18:54] <LjL> now when someone has ppa-purged stuff, and things are not proper, they get told "well PPAs are unsupported". i don't think that means you are precluded from getting help trying to restore your system to a working state.
[22:58]  * bkerensa waves to maco
[22:58] <maco> hi
[23:37] <pragmaticenigma> IdleOne are you in here
[23:37] <IdleOne> I am
[23:38] <IdleOne> pragmaticenigma: you can PM me the message if you prefer
[23:39] <pragmaticenigma> The issue was that NoOova asked at large if anyone used a flashblocking program. When I replied, he wanted to me to go to a link
[23:39] <pragmaticenigma> that link was setup as a snare with malware to see if his coding could circumvent my flashblocking programing
[23:41] <IdleOne> I see. if we get any further complaints we will take action. I'm sure you understand we can't just go on the word of one person but we do appreciate you looking out for the channel.
[23:42] <pragmaticenigma> I would ask that you at the very least see if he asks again, or yourself respond to his inquiry... I'm not about to risk my system security and have not replied further to him
[23:42] <IdleOne> I will keep him on watch.
[23:43] <pragmaticenigma> much appreciated!
[23:43] <IdleOne> sure thing.
[23:47] <IdleOne> pragmaticenigma: Could you please PM me what was sent to you
 hello. i debug some service... could you open page without enabled flash, or with flashblock? and say wrom what country you are
[23:48] <pragmaticenigma> I didn't get the link, but if you want, I can see if he still responds
[23:49] <genii-around> pragmaticenigma: I've sent them a message not to use #ubuntu for this kind of testing, we will see if they respod
[23:49] <genii-around> *respond
[23:49] <pragmaticenigma> I think he's gone... but I really do appreciate the help
[23:49] <IdleOne> That is what we are here for :)
[23:55] <pragmaticenigma> genii-around, IdleOne, he did respond and this is the URL ru.twitch.tv/bankr
[23:55] <genii-around> pragmaticenigma: No, they did not reply. If we get similar reports from other users some action may be taken.
[23:56] <pragmaticenigma> genii-around: I think you might have misread... He sent me the link...
[23:57] <genii-around> pragmaticenigma: Yes, he wanted you to test his coding to bypass your flash blocking, and sent you the link in pm
[23:57] <genii-around> ( is my understanding so far )
[23:57] <pragmaticenigma> yes.. and I have posted up the link here... because I believe you asked if I had it
[23:58] <pragmaticenigma> genii-around: you are correct
[23:58] <genii-around> It is good for us to know what it is, in case others report the same link being sent to them privately. So far it seems to be an isolated incident.
[23:59] <pragmaticenigma> I suppose I'm quick to think things like that... I work within the banking industry, so I'm more vigilant against such attacks...