[01:00] <blendedbychris> https://launchpad.net/~mojocode/+archive/ppa/?field.series_filter=lucid < can i recompile those using precise somehow?
[01:05] <adam_g> Daviey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1065286/  <- the x'd lines are thoes that ive hit up with the test log and note. i left the dns_domains bug for manual verification tomorrow, and two others that didnt have #'s attached.
[01:05] <adam_g> Daviey: i didn't touch the tags on any of them. gotta run. tty tomorrow.
[01:05] <adam_g> zul: ^
[01:12] <Daviey> adam_g: cool
[01:15] <ironhalik> Hello guys
[01:16] <ironhalik> anyone knows, what would be the best way to get the motd script from ubuntu server and adapt it for debian?
[01:16] <ironhalik> as I uderstand, it uses some of the landscape functionality
[01:23] <blendedbychris> https://launchpad.net/~blendedbyus/+archive/master << why is there no key :|
[03:04] <mariooo> hi all. a somewhat silly question I just can't seem to find the answer to: how do I go about rebooting an existing linux install to the attached ubuntu install cd...?
[03:05] <mariooo> I keep getting through to the existing installs GRUB selection screen, is that too far gone?
[03:13] <qman__> mariooo, yes, you need to configure your BIOS to boot from CD
[03:25] <wrapids> Anyone see a problem with this? http://pastebin.com/ZA4gXNck I don't think this is the problem I'm having, but I'd like to make sure.
[05:19] <mariooo> qman__: of course, thanks!
[08:56] <elfranne> j ai des logs qui commence a etre trop imposant en taille et donc je suis en train de pensez a activer logrotate mais je ne suis pas certain de savoir comment ca marche ... il regarde simplement la date du ficher ? ou il analyse chaque ligne ?
[08:57] <elfranne> sorry miss click
[08:57] <elfranne> wrong channel
[09:12] <samba35> how do i check my kvm /ehternet bridge is working
[09:13] <samba35> while installing guest i select nat but i want  bridge ,i have change nat to bridge from virt-manager gui
[09:36] <trapni> how do I get the ubuntu (server) package kernel sources that are used to actually build the .deb's binary package? I would like to inject a patch for my hosts.
[09:36] <ikonia> trapni: apt-get source $package will get you the source package
[09:37] <trapni> ikonia: ah. ty very much :)
[09:38] <Daviey> trapni: out of interest, what patch do you need?
[09:45] <trapni> Daviey: I am running OpenStack on and in Ubuntu 12.04, and every few hours, the KVM instances are loosing network connectivity due to a potential virtio_net bug I am hunting down since a few weeks now. It seems that issue is well known since March already, but it seems there is a fix out there already, too, and yet, not applied to Ubuntu 12.04's kernel.
[09:58] <Daviey> trapni: do you have the bug number?
[09:58] <Daviey> trapni: FWIW, i'm not aware of this issue at all..  If i am, there is a higher chance it will be fixed.
[10:02] <Ruetobas> perhaps this https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42829 ?
[10:04] <trapni> Daviey: tbh, I did a shit in getting the really urgent dnsmasq fix applied to Precise, and they seemed to not care at all (for real). I'm not that happy about how ubuntu devs (those that replied to my dnsmasq issue) work.
[10:06] <trapni> Ruetobas: yes, that one is one of the bugs I found and are related to this issue
[10:06] <trapni> Ruetobas: there are also 2 in launchpad
[10:06] <Daviey> trapni: dnsmasq bug number?
[10:06] <trapni> Daviey: ugh, sec
[10:07] <Daviey> trapni: I need launchpad bug numbers.
[10:07] <Daviey> trapni: by the way, "they" is "us".. And i'm trying to help.
[10:07] <trapni> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dnsmasq/+bug/1013529
[10:08] <trapni> Daviey: that's why I tried to be polite in saying "those that replied to my dnsmasq issue" :-)
[10:09] <trapni> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dnsmasq/+bug/1006898
[10:09] <Ruetobas> trapni we hit this issue when stressing the virtio interface, and now we work around it using the vhostnet module
[10:09] <trapni> this is the second dnsmasq ticket
[10:10] <Daviey> trapni: it seems to be making progress?
[10:10] <trapni> Ruetobas: we're having about 25 KVM nodes in our new openstack environment now, and every day about 4 die frequently. the worst case was, that one died just 2.5 hours after having fixed it (with a workaround)
[10:10] <samba35> i am new to kvm ,i have setup a guest (windows 7) on ubuntu 12.04 in bridge mode i want to guest should have fix ip how do i assign fix ip to guest from ubuntu or do i have to add in windows nic card
[10:11] <Daviey> trapni: FWIW, the dnsmasq issue i started looking into myself.. it's not a trivial backport to precise, due to significant refactoring of upstream
[10:11] <trapni> Daviey: as of #18 in the latter ticket, I'd say no unless someone is willing to do the big testplan and all its related work (which I don't have time for :)
[10:12] <trapni> Daviey: it's just an addition to bind to the network interface it is listening (accepting packets) from, iirc.
[10:12] <Daviey> trapni: If you are willing to put time into verifying it resolves, and regression free.. that would be a big help.
[10:13] <Daviey> trapni: I mean, cherry picking the upstream fix isn't a painfree task.
[10:13] <trapni> Daviey: I absolutely agree, but my backlog is so filled already, that I'm kind of... well... happy with every free off-the-work hour being left over ;)
[10:14] <Ruetobas> trapni which workaround did you apply?
[10:14] <trapni> Daviey: as a quick-fix for the dnsmasq thing, I just hand-compiled dnsmasq 1.61 myself
[10:15] <trapni> Ruetobas: inside local KVM, you can `ifconfig eth0 down` and up it again (add the default route by hand) and then it's back working.
[10:15] <trapni> Ruetobas: i've written a tiny shellscript daemon, that checks connectivity every 5 secs, and if it fails, it does the above procedure to heal
[10:16] <Daviey> trapni: do you have the launchpad bug for https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42829 ?
[10:18] <trapni> Daviey: ugh, sec
[10:18] <trapni> Daviey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/997978
[10:18] <trapni> Daviey: but that's not the only one
[10:19] <trapni> Daviey: and i'd kiss you to the bottom when you're able to trigger the right persons to get this bug fix applied there :-)
[10:20] <trapni> Daviey: although, in that particular bug number, ppl seem not yet to know about the kernel.org bug report (IIRC)... or was it the other bug report? let me find.
[10:20] <Daviey> trapni: I don't believe the kernel.org bug is known, or being tracked by us.
[10:21] <trapni> Daviey: just found this one today morning in some odd reference, but was really happy, since it seems to be exactly what we're experiencing (and those in the related launchpad bug reports)
[10:21] <samba35> how do i assign static ip to guest on kvm
[10:21] <Daviey> trapni: Regarding the dnsmasq one.. it is making progress.. but note, there is complexity... zul, prepared the upload, he is a competent engineer.. and missed at least one change.. It's not unreasonable to delay until we have good confidence it's regression free.
[10:22] <trapni> Daviey: I'm not patronizing anyone :-)
[10:22] <Ruetobas> trapni have you tried using http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/VhostNet ?
[10:22] <Daviey> trapni: Would you be able to raise a bug, duplicating the description, and add other useful info.. and we'll try an get it fixed soonly.
[10:23] <Daviey> trapni: Oh, i wasn't suggesting you were.. but it seemed that you thought we weren't looking at the issue seriously.
[10:23] <trapni> Ruetobas: that page is stunning. I just read about vhostnet today (in some bug report).
[10:24] <trapni> Daviey: don't take "we" or "you" personally. I just felt like left behind due to the bloat of dependencies, I mean, in Gentoo Linux I would have just revision-bumped the package and marked it firstly as unstable, so ppl can make use of it. :)
[10:27] <trapni> Ruetobas: I've not used VhostNet yet (have to read about how to, first, anyways) but since the latency numbers look very promising, I'll have a look into it soon :)
[10:27] <Daviey> There is a more pressing matter to hand that requires urgent attention.. I seem to be out of cookies.
[10:28]  * patdk-lap hands daviey a sugar cookie
[10:29] <Daviey> There aren't even any biscuits at all left, this will not o.
[10:29] <Daviey> do*
[10:30]  * koolhead11 offers Daviey some choco cakes
[10:30] <koolhead11> lynxman: nijaba seems to be in news today :)
[10:31] <lynxman> koolhead11: he is indeed
[10:32] <koolhead11> lynxman: how was the juju demo sir?
[10:32] <lynxman> koolhead11: quite good!
[10:34] <koolhead11> lynxman: nice. So do need to do any change in charms while running it there? I don`t think so
[10:34] <lynxman> koolhead11: nope
[10:35] <koolhead11> lynxman: and does it also work with HPcloud?
[10:35] <lynxman> koolhead11: yes
[10:36] <koolhead11> lynxman: i think its good time to create nice blog jcastro <-- explaining how to use single charm without any change on all the cloud platform. Incredible
[10:36] <koolhead11> juju ++
[12:42] <samba35> what are the default firewall are installed on server  like apparmor and ufw ?
[12:54] <patdk-wk> there is only one firewall, iptables
[12:55] <patdk-wk> and normally ufw is installed to manage it
[12:56] <cmol> Hi guys. Is any of you good at preseeding?
[12:58] <zul> Daviey: umm....swiftclient :)
[12:59] <cmol> I'm having a issue with static network configuration (from boot params), where the installation tries DHCP, fails, and then i can choose static, and then it reads the boot params given. Any ideas?
[12:59] <samba35> ok
[12:59] <smoser> rbasak, you rock
[13:00] <smoser> rbasak, we would need universe in a mirror for any realistic testing.
[13:02] <RoyK> samba35: like patdk-wk said, ufw is a wrapper made to simplify iptables, which is an interface to netfilter in kernel. ufw is not enabled by default, so no firewall is installed on new systems.
[13:02] <RoyK> !ufw
[13:02] <patdk-wk> royk, ufw keeps getting installed on my new install
[13:03] <patdk-wk> or maybe that was a mistake
[13:03] <RoyK> it's installed, but not enabled
[13:03] <patdk-wk> ya
[13:03]  * RoyK sees no reason to leave ufw out
[13:03] <samba35> ok
[13:03] <patdk-wk> personally, cause I don't like it :)
[13:03] <patdk-wk> and if I left it installed, someone might think it's in use :)
[13:04] <RoyK> patdk-wk: that's rather personal ;)
[13:04] <patdk-wk> I'm a personal guy :)
[13:04] <jdstrand> there is no need to remove ufw from an install. like others have said, it is not enabled by default and does nothing in the default install. one can enable it using preseeding or after installation
[13:04] <patdk-wk> like I said, it confuses others
[13:05] <jdstrand> if you aren't using, it doesn't hurt to remove it either, of course
[13:05] <patdk-wk> the fact it confuses them is a different issue, but not one I can fix
[13:07] <samba35> brb
[13:14] <RoyK> patdk-wk: even though it confuses *you*, it doesn't confuse most others ;)
[13:14] <RoyK> it's far more elegant than iptables
[13:15] <ilmpc> in the command sed -i /[regexp]/d, what regexp would I use to match  /** [several lines of text] **/ ? I've tried but I can't seem to get the escape characters right
[13:29] <patdk-wk> royk, who said I was using iptables directly?
[13:35] <RoyK> patdk-wk: I didn't, but I still don't see a reason for removing it...
[13:36] <samba35> i have installed ubuntu desktop  (package)on ubuntu server it was working fine till today but from today i am not able to use dash console to launch applications
[13:36] <samba35> even try are failed to search
[13:36] <RoyK> samba35: strictly speaking, that's not a -server question ;)
[13:36] <samba35> yes i know but why all a sudden that should happen
[13:37] <RoyK> dunno - perhaps try to ask on #ubuntu
[13:37] <samba35> ok
[13:37] <samba35> they will say its server
[13:37] <LordOfTime> samba35: the GUI related breaks can be in #ubuntu, they tend to stick to CLI here :P
[13:37] <LordOfTime> s/they/we/
[14:07] <zul> Daviey: ping
[14:29] <Daviey> zul: hey
[14:30] <zul> Daviey: so im just prepping the nova SRU for next week, should i add the additonal bug numbers to the existing SRU tracker
[14:30] <Daviey> zul: otp
[14:31] <zul> k
[14:52] <HFT> what do people use for system basic system monitoring and alerting in the Linux world (I am Windows guy moving to Linux)
[14:52] <resno> HFT: big beast yes
[14:52] <cocoa117> i have 2TB hard disk, and the whole disk is been used for lvm pv. However after create volume group, the volume group size is only 1.82TB, where did all the rest of 20G go?
[14:52] <HFT> I am happy with the commands used to determine what a system is doing at any particular time, I am just wondering what is used for automatic monitoring and reporting and maybe giving a web interface i can look at with system metrcs
[14:52] <resno> nagios is pain and a half HFT
[14:53] <oCean> depends on your needs
[14:53] <oCean> I love Zabbix
[14:53] <resno> HFT: theres also munin
[14:53] <resno> and cacti?
[14:54] <resno> oCean: how is zabbix?
[14:54] <resno> i wasthinkingofzenoos
[14:55] <HFT> I would prefer something fairly lightweightm, i am not too interested in having to wade through shed loads of readme docs, i just want a simple way to send and email alert or whatever when  CPU or io or disksapce threshold is met, and also to allow running of custom scripts that are to monitor log files of bespoke software
[14:55] <resno> most likely munin / catci i think
[14:55] <HFT> resno: so what do you use ?, what are the pros and cons of the 3 you suggested
[14:55] <oCean> resno: great, also not very easy to setup, but then again our setup is for >800 servers,switches etc
[14:56] <resno> HFT: i use none. munin, but my needs are even lesser then yours
[14:56] <resno> ha, i use munin usually
[14:56] <oCean> zenoss is OK too, there is really no single "best"
[14:56] <resno> does munin / catci do notifications?
[14:56] <HFT> there's spomething called Orca I have seen although i don;t think this is a centralised server reporting system i think it is just a way to get graphs on the server it is installed on of system metris
[14:57] <resno> ive never looked
[14:57] <HFT> metrics
[14:57] <HFT> resno: but everyone who supports any server must at least have an alert setup for diskpace and CPU surely ? :)
[14:59] <HFT> ok say I was going to go the route of creating my own simple monitoring tool.  how would you check the diskspace of other servers from a central reporting server
[15:00] <HFT> can you run commands remotely on a linux machine
[15:00] <souliaq> I want to make "/etc/resolv.conf" permanent. I don't need use DHCP, /etc/network/interfaces never "invokes" dhcp. Google don't help.
[15:00] <patdk-wk> hft, snmp does all that, personally I use munin
[15:00] <patdk-wk> cacti, nagnos, ...
[15:01] <patdk-wk> there are over 10 options you have
[15:02] <resno> patdk-wk: munin can sendemails?
[15:02] <patdk-wk> no, munin can run command, and commands can send mail :)
[15:02] <resno> :-)
[15:03] <patdk-wk> personally I have it email me and txt me
[15:03] <resno> HFT: i think cacti is a good fit
[15:03] <HFT> just out of interest how do these tools work do you have to install software on all the boxes that are to be monitored or does the monitoring server connect and pull the data from the monitored servers
[15:04] <patdk-wk> each one works different
[15:08] <HFT> ok, forget monitoring tools.  How would you automate monitor the the diskspace on a remote machine with a script.  say you wanted to check the diskpace on a server.
[15:08] <HFT> just that simple use case
[15:09] <HFT> In Windows you find out the diskspace on a remote machine (if you have permissions in the Windows domain
[15:09] <HFT> so it is easy to write a script to check this
[15:10] <HFT> can you share filesystems between Linux machines ( bare in mind ai am a noob with Linux)
[15:13] <patdk-wk> there are a few
[15:13] <patdk-wk> glusterfs, gfs, ocfs
[15:14] <patdk-wk> oh, you mean normal smb, you could, but it normally reports inaccurate freespace
[15:14] <LordOfTime> ^ that
[15:14] <patdk-wk> and that reporting only gets you diskspace
[15:16] <drPoo> could anybody point me to a tutorial on creating soft raid with parted and mdadm with disks larger than 2TB??
[15:16] <drPoo> this is driving me nutS!
[15:21] <drPoo> could anybody point me to a tutorial on creating soft raid with parted and mdadm with disks larger than 2TB??
[15:23] <LordOfTime> !repeat | drPoo
[15:26] <IdleOne> !raid
[15:28] <drPoo> IdleOne, I have checked all of those links and they do not pertain to >2TB disk soft raid
[15:31] <souliaq> I want to make "/etc/resolv.conf" permanent. I don't need use DHCP, /etc/network/interfaces never "invokes" dhcp. Google don't help.
[15:38] <IdleOne> drPoo: sorry i don't have any experience with raid but I don't know why the size would matter
[15:39] <genii-around> post-up echo "nameserver ip-address" > /etc/resolv.conf
[15:43] <hallyn> stgraber: I've sent a patch upstream to fix lxc-execute failing with lxc-setcap.  but i don't intend to open a bug, just let the fix percolate downstream
[15:44] <hallyn> you know.  eventually.  it's at the end of a 48 patch queue :(
[15:45] <hallyn> all right, i think this afternoon i may sync libcgroup into q
[15:46] <hallyn> kees: ^ that would mean you'd be switched over to cgroup-lite for cgroup setup
[15:47] <hallyn> still discussing with jbernard what exactly to do long-term.  I'm thinking cgroup mounting and configuration will go back into cgroup-bin in a more baroque fashion, but no task auto-classification
[15:53] <stgraber> hallyn: replied to the e-mail, looks like unused variable
[15:58] <hallyn> yeah, i thought it might be useful later, but it probably should be dropped.  anyway i wonder if i should exploit being capabilities maintainer to try and push /sys/kernel/security/capability/last_cap finally :)
[15:58] <hallyn> except, the patch proves that it isn't strictly necessary
[16:14] <hallyn> stgraber: all right all right resetn without that var :)
[16:14] <hallyn> thanks
[16:16] <stgraber> hallyn: thanks
[16:28] <computerman> ah
[16:28] <computerman> found the right channel :-)
[16:30] <computerman> i need some help setting up RAID
[16:30] <computerman> either 1/0 or 6
[16:31] <computerman> anyone around?
[17:17] <computerman> i've chosen the raid setup i want -- but when i try to write/finalize my options - i get the message "root something is not defined.. you may do this in the partition menu"
[17:17] <computerman> but i do not find such thing in there
[17:24] <metasansana> Unity rocks!!
[17:33] <zul> hallyn: ping im getting this traceback when trying to run libvirt-lxc openstack on quantal
[17:33] <zul> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1066416/
[17:34] <adam_g> zul: have you done any kvm/libvirt quantal yet?
[17:34] <zul> adam_g: yeah works fine for me
[17:35] <adam_g> zul: multi or single node?
[17:35] <zul> single
[17:35] <adam_g> hmmm
[17:38] <zul> problems?
[17:44] <gary_poster> erv help
[18:25] <adam_g> hallyn: is 12.10 shipping libvirt 0.9.12, or will that be updated?
[18:29] <zul> it will be updated (pretty sure)
[18:29] <zul> 0.9.13-rc2 is out
[18:33] <adam_g> ah
[18:55] <hallyn> adam_g: why do you ask?  something you need in 0.9.13?
[18:57] <hallyn> zul: hm, have you created a simple ubuntu libvirt-lxc container and had it work?
[18:58] <hallyn> apparmor profile - i wonder if this is fallout from the lxc-svirt work
[18:58] <zul> yeah for some reason it cant load veth
[18:58] <hallyn> could be quite a pickle to straighten out if so
[18:58] <hallyn> zul: is veth kernel module loaded?
[18:58] <zul> yeah
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[18:59] <hallyn> firing off an instance to do a simple container test
[18:59] <zul> hallyn: the only difference is this part: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1066549/
[18:59] <hallyn> (long as i'm waiting for ppa to build libcgroup so i can test anyway...)
[19:00] <hallyn> but that's for a host-wide bridge right?  does that not exist at all in precise?
[19:10] <zul> i need to check in precise
[19:12] <adam_g> hallyn: nah, just trying to debug some networking problem and noticed CTRL_IP_LEARNING mentioned in the docs. was curious.
[19:15] <ironm> Hi guys. In case you are looking for it:  mariadb-server 5.5.25 repo for off-line installations on ubuntu-server 12.04: http://rsync.it-infrastrukturen.org/mariadb/ubuntu/mariadb-5.5.25-ubuntu-12.04-repo.tgz
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[19:40] <hallyn> zul: yeah, reproduced jsut following
[19:40] <hallyn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SergeHallyn_libvirtlxc
[19:41] <zul> good im not going crazy
[19:44] <hallyn> zul: but it only gives the failed to load apparmor msg once, next time it just fails to start
[19:44] <zul> hallyn: if i disable apparmor it says failed to load veth
[19:46] <Guest90451> Anyone have an familiarity with using IPSec to VPN to AWS?
[19:47] <hallyn> zul: after you disable apparmor do you stop/start libvirt?
[19:47] <zul> yep
[19:47] <hallyn> i don't find the actual policy file so i think the cod is just failing to write the tempalte
[19:48] <hallyn> hm
[19:55] <hallyn> zul: i dunno, not obvious to me in the code.  have you opened a bug?
[19:55] <zul> not yet ill do so this weekend
[19:57] <hallyn> zul: ok cool, my wiki page should serve as very simple reproduction instructions
[19:57] <hallyn> then we can beg jdstrand for input :)
[19:57] <zul> im going to try -rc3 as well
[19:57] <zul> er...rc2
[19:57] <zul> im thinking selinux might something to do with it
[19:57] <zul> l8tr
[20:01] <tjaalton> zul: hmm, liblda-2.4-2 depends on heimdal libs, wasn't it supposed to _not_ build dep on heimdal-dev?
[20:01] <tjaalton> *libldap
[20:02] <tjaalton> makes everything build-depending on libldap2-dev pull heimdal instead of mit..
[20:02] <tjaalton> this is precise, haven't checked quantail
[20:04] <tjaalton> the build-depends are broken in multiple ways..
[20:05] <zul> tjaalton: im away...please open up a bug
[20:05] <tjaalton> zul: ah, will do
[20:38] <hallyn> d'oh, actually i don't have upload rights to libcgroup
[20:41] <hallyn> roaksoax: hey, are you still around?
[20:41] <stgraber> hallyn: hmm, what packageset is it in then?
[20:41] <roaksoax> hallyn: here
[20:41] <hallyn> stgraber: it's in universe
[20:41] <hallyn> does thtat mean it can't be in server set?
[20:42] <stgraber> ah right, because nothing actually depends on it... it can be added to the server packageset but you'd need to ping cjwatson for that as it needs to be added to his script
[20:42] <hallyn> stgraber: ubuntu-server-dev only had upload rights in oneiric
[20:42] <hallyn> stgraber: probably should do that, but for now...
[20:42] <stgraber> the server packageset is automatically generated from seed
[20:42] <hallyn> roaksoax: would you mind grabbing the dsc under http://people.canonical.com/~serge/libcgroup_0.38-1ubuntu1 and pushing it?
[20:43] <roaksoax> hallyn: sure
[20:43] <stgraber> hallyn: are cgroup-lite and libcgroup still separate sources?
[20:44] <hallyn> stgraber: yup, for now
[20:44] <roaksoax> hallyn: can you also give me the .orig.tar.gz?
[20:44] <hallyn> stgraber: the cgroup-lite scripts will probably move into libcgroup, but we have to drop the dangerous stuff so that libcgroup can  get into main
[20:45] <hallyn> roaksoax: d'oh, yeah (it came from pull-debian-source, but just a sec)
[20:45] <stgraber> hallyn: right, and when that happens libcgroup will automatically be moved to the server packageset (as the source of cgroup-lite)
[20:46] <hallyn> stgraber: but we don't really want to go any time without cgroup upstart job in main, so for now i preferred to have cgroup-bin depending on cgroup-lite
[20:46] <hallyn> roaksoax: pushed
[20:48] <roaksoax> hallyn: done!
[20:50] <hallyn> roaksoax: thanks!
[20:50] <hallyn> wondering if ineed to blog to warn people...
[20:50] <arooni-mobile> whats the best way to figure out where the majority of my disk space is used?  i remember doing something like du -chs *  ... for each directory is this the best approach or is there something else better
[20:55] <sw> arooni-mobile: '$ df -h'?
[21:00] <stgraber> hallyn, roaksoax: whichever of you generated the .changes for libcgroup forgot about using -v for merges
[21:01] <roaksoax> stgraber: my bad
[21:14] <adam_g> smoser: around?
[21:15] <Daviey> hallyn: Hey, did you make any progress with that networking bug?
[21:16] <smoser> adam_g, here for ...
[21:16] <smoser> ok whats up, adam_g ?
[21:18] <adam_g> smoser: trying to back door into a cloud image by mounting and setting a static IP. any gotchas? running into problems with SSH access
[21:19] <smoser> adam_g, you're wanting to ssh in ?
[21:20] <smoser> with a password?
[21:20] <smoser> the /etc/ssh/sshd_config will have to be changed.
[21:20] <adam_g> smoser: no, with keys
[21:20] <smoser> do you get console otuput?
[21:20] <smoser> oh.
[21:20] <smoser> you have no data source
[21:20] <adam_g> smoser: well, either. im dropping a key into /home/ubuntu/.ssh
[21:20] <smoser> yeah
[21:20] <smoser> so you dont have a data source, and thus the ssh keys for the host dont get generated
[21:20] <smoser> add a datasource
[21:20] <smoser> (nocloud
[21:20] <smoser> )
[21:21] <smoser> adam_g, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cloud-init-dev/cloud-init/trunk/view/head:/doc/examples/seed/README
[21:21] <adam_g> smoser: just what i needed, thanks
[21:24] <arooni-mobile> whats the best way to figure out where the majority of my disk space is used?  i remember doing something like du -chs *  ... for each directory is this the best approach or is there something else better
[21:25] <guntbert> arooni-mobile: I start with du -sh /* to see what directory takes the biggest chunk
[21:42] <hallyn> Daviey: no.  will look monday (if the libivrt-lxc one lets me)
[21:44] <VampireTeddyBear> anybody
[21:44] <hallyn> stgraber: libcgroup - -v starting from what?
[21:44] <VampireTeddyBear> oh here will i set up my everlasting rest
[21:44] <hallyn> stgraber: it was basically a sync, except for depending on cgroup-lite (which maybe i should have just not done)
[21:45] <VampireTeddyBear> COCK
[21:46] <IdleOne> !language | VampireTeddyBear
[21:46] <VampireTeddyBear> C
[21:46] <VampireTeddyBear> O
[21:46] <VampireTeddyBear> C
[21:46] <VampireTeddyBear> K
[21:46] <VampireTeddyBear> SPLOOOOOGE
[21:47] <genii-around> Hm
[21:48] <erichammond> arooni-mobile: sudo du -ak / | sort -nr | less
[21:48] <erichammond> arooni-mobile: Or, to show a remote system's disk usage graphically on a local desktop: ssh HOST sudo du -ak / | xdiskusage
[21:49] <arooni-mobile> interesting
[21:49] <arooni-mobile> i new about the first method
[21:49] <arooni-mobile> second is new to me
[21:49] <stgraber> hallyn: when merging from Debian you're supposed to use -v<last ubuntu version> as a flag to debuild so that the Debian changes are included in the changelog
[21:49] <erichammond> I think there is a fancier graphical interface, but I'm stuck in my old ways.
[21:49] <stgraber> hallyn: unless it wasn't actually a merge, then the changelog shouldn't say it's a merge
[21:50] <hallyn> stgraber: right, no ubuntu chagnes were retained.  i think i mis-labeled it
[21:50] <Jman2213> Hey guys, does anyone have any experience with CoD4 servers running on Linux?
[21:51] <hallyn> stgraber: so is that merge or a sync or something else in that case?
[21:51] <hallyn> stgraber: have you kicked the dput?
[21:52] <hallyn> (can't recall if i saw the ubuntu/quantal archive email for it or not)
[21:53] <Jman2213> So I'm trying to start a game but when I type out the startup command line and try to run it I get an error "Segmentation fault" even though what I typed was to the letter of my tutorial. Ideas?
[21:53] <stgraber> hallyn: nope, it's indeed a merge in that case, so the changes should have been generated with "debuild -S -sa -v0.37.1-1ubuntu10" so that the generated .changes contains all the changes between 0.37.1-1ubuntu10 and 0.38-1ubuntu1 instead of just 0.38-1ubuntu1
[21:53] <hallyn> stgraber: but i didn't keep the old changelog entries
[21:53] <stgraber> hallyn: roaksoax uploaded it for you, so yeah, it's already in. The missing entries in .changes aren't a big problem, it's just annoying for people reading quantal-changes as we're lacking context on exactly what was merged
[21:53] <hallyn> i gather i should ahve?
[21:54] <stgraber> hallyn: oh, then you didn't merge properly ;)
[21:54] <hallyn> that's bc i sync'ed!
[21:54] <hallyn> until the last minute :)
[21:54] <hallyn> sorry
[21:55] <hallyn> roaksoax: sorry for dragging you down :(
[21:55] <stgraber> hehe, right, so we indeed have the same result as sync + another upload but with a single upload, that explains it :)
[21:55] <stgraber> hallyn: next time you're in a case like this, we have merge-changelog that takes two changelogs and outputs a merged one, then you can use -v<last ubuntu version> and get a nice .changes
[21:56] <arooni-mobile> whats the best way to upgrade ubuntu 10.04 LTS ==> ubuntu 12.04 server?
[21:57] <hallyn> merge-changelog that works reliably?  sounds like magic.  I did used to hand-finagle them for big libvirt/multipath-tools merges...never used merge-changelog before
[21:57] <stgraber> hallyn: never failed for me yet
[21:58] <hallyn> i assume the two it takes are old-ubuntu and new-debian+oneubuntu-entry
[21:58] <stgraber> arooni-mobile: "do-release-upgrade" is the proper way of doing it, not sure whether it'll let you do it already though. We only recommend upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04 starting with 12.04.1 (to be released end of August)
[21:58] <arooni-mobile> is this best? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades/#Network_Upgrade_for_Ubuntu_Servers_.28Recommended.29
[21:58] <arooni-mobile> ah ok
[21:58] <hallyn> arooni-mobile: yup
[21:58] <arooni-mobile> so sounds like i sit tight till august
[21:58] <stgraber> hallyn: yeah, it should be able to manage it fine with these arguments. I usually do: merge-changelog <debian> <old ubuntu> > <new ubuntu>
[21:58] <hallyn> oh i somehow missed stgraber's response
[21:58] <stgraber> then I dch -i to add the new entryon top
[21:59] <hallyn> stgraber: ok makes sense
[21:59] <hallyn> thx
[22:00] <hallyn> heh i should figure out how to do that ubuntu member nick thing one of these days
[22:01] <hallyn> anyway, gonna be a very busy day on monday.  think i'm stopping for today
[22:01] <roaksoax> hallyn: no worries
[22:02] <roaksoax> stgraber: i guess it was my fault for not letting hallyn know that he should just said "Resync from debian unstable" and made a change
[22:09] <Daviey> hallyn: cool
[22:16] <goddard> how can i upgrade from 10.10 to 12.04?
[22:17] <genii-around> goddard: Because you're not currently on a Long Term Support release, you have to upgrade through all the intermediate ones
[22:19] <IdleOne> I would suggest a clean install instead of doing all the releases
[22:19] <smw_work> goddard, I would just reinstall personally
[22:19] <smw_work> +1 IdleOne
[22:19] <IdleOne> that many upgrades will take a long time and could cause issues
[22:19] <IdleOne> normally shouldn't but why risk it
[22:19] <genii-around> goddard: As everyone is pointing out, a clean install is going to be less headaches
[22:20] <IdleOne> and much faster
[22:39] <hallyn> zul: oh, hey, i think we just need to cherrypick commit cf36c23bc952744feeb4d0b4fd81d7004bfed8cf from upstream: "Don't enable the AppArmour security driver with LXC"
[22:50] <hallyn> well commit 73580c60d1003c7d93125a0f62b673818a5da9c9 and cf36c23bc952744feeb4d0b4fd81d7004bfed8cf
[22:53] <goddard> ok thx
[22:59] <moj0rising> hi
[23:05] <hallyn> zul: yeah, that works
[23:06] <hallyn> if iget a chance i'll push a pkg tnoight
[23:17] <hallyn> zul: http://people.canonical.com/~serge/libvirt-lxc-aa.debdiff
[23:20] <moj0rising> is anyone here?
[23:20] <court_jester> moj0rising: o/
[23:24] <moj0rising> hi, court_jester.
[23:24] <moj0rising> I'm having some trouble with UEC and was wondering if anyone can push me in the right direction.,.
[23:25] <moj0rising> I have installed ubuntu server 12.04 and UEC/MAAS
[23:25] <moj0rising> after adding the first node, the dashboard shows a status for the new node as "commissioning"
[23:25] <moj0rising> it has said that since last night.
[23:26] <moj0rising> any ideas?
[23:31] <Daviey> hallyn / stgraber: Did you see lxc 0.8.0~rc1-6 has just been uploaded to debian?
[23:33] <stgraber> Daviey: nope, I guess hallyn or I will have a look at the change, but it's unlikely to be too interesting
[23:34] <stgraber> the past few changes were either taking some of our patches (as upstream hasn't merge any patch in months) or doing some changes that we ended up reverting in Ubuntu (init scripts and the like)
[23:36] <Daviey> stgraber: ok, cool
[23:36] <Daviey> right, bed
[23:37] <Jman2213> So I'm trying to start a game but when I type out the startup command line and try to run it I get an error "Segmentation fault" even though what I typed was to the letter of my tutorial. Ideas?