[06:01]  * Kilos waves to you all
[06:01] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[06:01]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[06:02] <Kilos> hey kbmonkey 
[06:02] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[06:05] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[06:05] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[06:05] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[06:39] <Kilos> yo superfly you made it in one piece
[06:49] <plustwo> Good morning
[06:52] <Kilos> yo plustwo 
[06:53] <plustwo> You yo oom o/
[06:53] <Kilos> hehe
[06:53]  * plustwo dislikes swift x keyboard :/
[06:54] <Kilos> i dont even know what that is
[06:55] <plustwo> Android tablet touch screen keyboard
[06:55] <Kilos> ah
[06:57] <plustwo> You need to confirm what you typed is correct before sending... 
[06:57] <Kilos> lol what a schlep
[06:58] <Kilos> at least it will keep typos down and you get to rethink what you said
[06:58] <Kilos> could be useful inna argument
[06:58] <plustwo> I'm just a bit lazy to learn my tablet some of the words
[06:59] <Kilos> oh similar to the words cellfones learn
[07:00] <plustwo> Lol that would be great to use in arguments.... Yes oom! 
[07:05] <Kilos> plustwo, is it like the dictionary mode on cells
[07:05] <Kilos> one could stop that
[07:10] <superfly> Kilos: I did, all good here thanks
[07:12] <Kilos> yay
[07:18] <plustwo> Kilos: yu are correct
[07:21] <Kilos> yay
[07:21]  * plustwo would cut somebody's hand this time if wireless goes down again... nxa!
[07:21] <Kilos> you also having connection probs?
[07:22] <Kilos> hehe i been struggling with vodacom a few days now
[07:23] <plustwo> Some stpd hand decided to pull the plug, this is no matrix scene.... 
[07:24] <Kilos> lol
[07:26] <plustwo> On the otherhand, and bsd vm is updating ports.... 
[07:30] <Kilos> hi sflr 
[07:30] <sflr> hi Kilos!
[07:32] <superfly> morning sflr
[07:33] <sflr> hey superfly!
[07:33] <sflr> how is everybody this morning? :)
[07:33] <Kilos> fine ty and you?
[07:34] <sflr> I'm tired. didnt sleep much. my daughter is sick
[07:34] <Kilos> eish thats not nice
[07:35] <superfly> sflr: eish, I know how that can be.
[07:35] <sflr> she woke up crying at night with over 40C fever. that's where my sleep ended for the night
[07:36] <Kilos> ouch
[07:36] <sflr> Is Thunderbird a good email client? or is there something better for Ubuntu?
[07:36] <Kilos> lotsa peeps use thunderbird
[07:37] <sflr> ok, I also use it. I was just wondering in case I'm missing out on something else
[07:37] <superfly> sflr: if you can make it not eat your mail, KMail is the best mail client I've ever used. I currently use Thunderbird, which is OK - nothing to write home about though
[07:37] <Kilos> i have tried it but prefer evolution
[07:38] <Kilos> thunderbird  spent too much time fetching mails i already had and setting up was too much work
[07:44] <sflr> Kilos I think they made it more userfriendly. I just entered username, password, didnt need to do any other setup. 
[07:45] <Kilos> will try it again when i go 12.04 or 11.10 lubuntu
[07:46] <sflr> do you work on laptop or PC?
[07:46] <Kilos> desktop
[07:46] <Kilos> old one
[07:46] <Kilos> first p4
[07:47] <Kilos> 1.7g cpu clocked to 2g
[07:48] <sflr> uhm. is it still holding up?
[07:48] <Kilos> haha was a lucky lovers quarrel that got it into my hands or would still be p3
[07:48] <sflr> memories. hehe
[07:49] <Kilos> works well. i tried 11.04 0n it but the graphics card is only 32m ram so cant do unity
[07:49] <Kilos> lol
[07:50] <Kilos> ya the neighbours son and his chick had a fight about him watching porn all the time so she threw it outa the flat window onto the concrete
[07:50] <Kilos> they asked if i want it for spares
[07:50] <Kilos> lol
[07:51] <sflr> haha.lol
[07:51] <superfly> bwahaha
[07:53] <Kilos> was very bent and buckled and hdd and cdrom wrecked but i scrounged a new cover and moved parts from my p3
[07:53] <Kilos> yay
[07:53] <Kilos> cover/tower
[07:53] <Kilos> that thing
[07:54] <Kilos> even the sdr from p3 worked in it
[08:07] <NeVeR_> cant seem to connect to freenode using quassel, mirc or xchat :| only the web client works
[08:07] <NeVeR_> fml
[08:07] <Kilos> yo NeVeR_ 
[08:08] <NeVeR_> yo yo
[08:08] <Kilos> was xchat working before?
[08:09] <NeVeR_> yep
[08:09] <NeVeR_> [10:05:21] * Connection failed. Cycling to next Server [10:05:21] * Connecting to chat.freenode.net:6667... [10:05:37] * Connection failure: Remote host closed connection### [10:05:37] * Connection failed. Cycling to next Server [10:05:37] * Connecting to chat.freenode.net:6665... [10:05:37] * Connection failure: Remote host closed connection### [10:06:37] * Connection failed. Cycling to next Server [10:06:37] * Connecting to chat
[08:09] <NeVeR_> maybe my work blocked freenode :|
[08:10] <Kilos> oh my goodness
[08:10] <NeVeR_> I'm connected to shadowfire
[08:10] <Kilos> try changing the port
[08:11] <Kilos> i use 8001
[08:11] <Kilos> still need to learn how all the port stuff works
[08:14] <NeVeR_> 8001 also aint working ;(
[08:14] <Kilos> eish
[08:15] <Kilos> i would reboot and inetpro would tell me forget that windows stuff
[08:16] <Kilos> how can all the irc clients not work
[08:17] <sflr> NeVeR_: http://webchat.freenode.net never lets me down :P
[08:19] <NeVeR_> im using that at the moment.. but its crap
[08:19] <Kilos> there i am using xchat quassel and konversation
[08:20] <Kilos> something in your pc isnt happy
[08:21] <Kilos> sflr, didnt you ever get xchat working?
[08:25] <sflr> Xchat from home, webchat from work
[08:25] <Kilos> ah
[08:27] <Kilos> never one last thing before i say reboot install weechat
[08:27] <Kilos> and try that
[08:27] <Kilos> NeVeR_, ^^
[08:27] <inetpro> eh
[08:27] <Kilos> lo  inetpro 
[08:27] <sflr> all ports are blocked at the office, only few are open which are work related. haha
[08:27] <inetpro> sflr: I've been using Thunderbird for many years
[08:27] <Kilos> was waiting for action from you
[08:27] <sflr> thanks inetpro I will stick with TB then
[08:28] <inetpro> only problem I have with it lately is that it slows down when you have many masses of mail
[08:28] <inetpro> due to the new way they store stuff and index it for quick search results
[08:29] <inetpro> to circumvent that I move old messages to the local folder
[08:29] <sflr> yes, I created a local_inbox folder
[08:29] <sflr> the slower the mails come the better! otherwise I would be reading mails whole day. haha
[08:30] <inetpro> hmm....
[08:32]  * inetpro filters messages in Thunderbird very effectively by using message views
[08:32] <sflr> some people like to come to my desk as soon as they sent an email to me. very irritating. 'did you read my emal?' 'No, my email is closed'
[08:32] <NeVeR_> sflr, I can connect to shadowfire on 6667
[08:34] <sflr> message views. uhm. I look into that.
[08:35] <Kilos> inetpro, you got any ideas to help NeVeR_ 
[08:35] <NeVeR_> [10:34:34] * Connecting to chat.freenode.net:6665... [10:34:35] * Connection failure: Remote host closed connection###
[08:35] <NeVeR_> getting that now
[08:36] <NeVeR_> let me try a different proxy :\
[08:37] <NeVeR_> mmm our web proxy blocks the port completely
[08:37] <inetpro> hmm... trying to connect via proxy?
[08:37] <inetpro> obviously it's blocked
[08:38] <NeVeR_> well I have an SSH tunnel to my VPS, as everything is blocked at work, now it seems freenode doesn't want me to connect ;(
[08:38] <inetpro> talk to Symmetria about IRC and corporate security
[08:38] <NeVeR_> I'm connected to shadowfire, so it seems its just freenode
[08:40] <inetpro> IIRC some VPS providers don't allow IRC connectivity
[08:40] <NeVeR_> ill try setting up the quassel core this evening
[08:40] <NeVeR_> im connected to shadowfire as well though.. its also an IRC network.. also tunneling...
[08:40] <NeVeR_> I think maybe freenode blocked my VPS provider or something
[08:41] <inetpro> quassel core is just another IRC client
[08:41] <NeVeR_> because it says Remote Host closed the connection. maybe its timing out
[08:41] <NeVeR_> if I can get the core to connect, then I can just connect to the core..
[08:41] <NeVeR_> otherwise I'll use one of my other VPSes
[08:42] <inetpro> NeVeR_: have you tried connecting via port 7070 with SSL?
[08:42] <inetpro> check http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml
[08:42] <NeVeR_> nope.. let me try
[08:43] <Kilos> what a busines hey
[08:44] <NeVeR_> lol
[08:44] <NeVeR_> [10:42:48] * Connecting to chat.freenode.net:7070... [10:42:48] * Connection failure: Unknown error
[08:44] <NeVeR_> unknown error O_O
[08:44] <Kilos> ask freenode is they blocked you
[08:44] <inetpro> NeVeR_: see: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[08:45] <inetpro> ask staffers at #freenode to help you
[08:52] <Kilos> hi drussell 
[08:53] <drussell> Kilos: heya, how's things?
[08:54] <Kilos> good ty drussell and there?
[08:54] <drussell> Kilos: yeah goo thx, and it's Friday ;o)
[08:54] <Kilos> hehe
[09:58] <sakhi> Morning :)
[10:01] <Kilos> hi sakhi 
[10:39] <smile4a> good afternoon :)
[10:39] <Kilos> hi smile4a 
[10:40] <smile4a> :)
[10:40] <Kilos> NeVeR_, are you winning?
[10:46] <NeVeR_> nah.. ill just use the web client at work.. im sure our CPT offices are unrestricted cos the guys there are always on facebook
[10:47] <Kilos> maybe thats the reason its being blocked
[10:50] <NeVeR_> lol :P
[10:51] <Kilos> wont stop them though if browsers still work
[11:03] <NeVeR_> :>
[11:20] <NeVeR_> i dont understand why I can't connect using my ssh tunnel though :( I'm sure my VPS provider must of blocked freenode..
[11:26] <Kilos> did you try getting help from freenode. they will tell you most likely what the prob is NeVeR_ 
[11:28] <Kilos> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[11:28] <Kilos> so frustrating
[11:35] <NeVeR_> its okay.. its not that important... it works at home :P
[11:35] <Kilos> hehe
[12:45] <sflr> hola!
[12:49] <Kilos> wb
[12:51] <superfly> hi sflr
[12:51] <sflr> hi Kilos, superfly 
[12:51] <superfly> slow internet = slow geeks
[12:51] <Kilos> and welcome to ubuntuza as well
[12:52] <Kilos> lol
[12:52] <sflr> slow internet?
[12:53] <Kilos> my signal shows only one bar in nm and down to gprs speed
[12:53] <Kilos> get 8kB/s when lucky
[12:53] <Kilos> you alos got probs superfly ?
[12:53] <Kilos> also too
[12:54] <superfly> sflr, Kilos: International outage
[12:55] <Kilos> whew mine is just vodacom
[12:56] <sflr> ok. I didnt notice anything yet
[12:56] <superfly> sflr: service provider?
[12:56] <sflr> mweb
[12:57] <sflr> working on VPN to US and South-America with no problems
[12:58] <superfly> they might not be particularly affected since they run a lot of their own stuff for the most part
[12:58] <sflr> yes, I think Afrihost was having issues. I received an SMS earlier
[13:03] <superfly> sflr: SAT3 issues... i.e. every ISP using SAIX
[13:03] <sflr> thanks. do they know what the issue is? something went up in flames?
[13:05] <superfly> sflr: http://webafrica.co.za/status/ - see what you can decode
[13:07] <sflr> superfly: http://www.safe-sat3.co.za/ - doesnt look like a pro site. haha
[13:10] <sflr> the break seems to be somewhere near Portugal and they will start fixing it on the 1st July
[13:11] <superfly> sflr: where did you find that info?
[13:12] <sflr> However Telkom says it is planned maintenance, no break: http://www.itweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=56340:internet-outage-may-linger
[13:13] <sflr> I just googled content for sat3 cable status in the last 24 hours
[13:18] <superfly> sflr: ta for the link
[15:02] <smile4a> bon appetit :)
[16:02] <Kilos> wassup superfly ?
[16:02] <Kilos> you home or onna train or waiting
[16:04] <Kilos> yo theblaze 
[16:05] <theblaze> Hi kilos
[16:05] <Kilos> you ready for the weekend
[16:05] <theblaze> Yeah. You?
[16:05] <Kilos> lol for me everyday is weekend
[16:06] <Kilos> monday to monday all same
[16:07] <theblaze> Nice :) how come
[16:08] <Kilos> im a ballie that stays at homee
[16:08] <theblaze> Haha OK
[16:08] <theblaze> Which desktop so you use
[16:08] <Kilos> ubuntu maverick
[16:09] <Kilos> 10.10
[16:09] <theblaze> So unity? 
[16:09] <Kilos> graphics card cant handle unity
[16:13] <theblaze> OK which to do you use then
[16:13] <theblaze> De*
[16:13] <Kilos> gnome2
[16:14] <theblaze> Mate or original?
[16:14] <Kilos> original with maverick
[16:14] <Kilos> standard install
[16:15] <superfly> Kilos: I'm home
[16:15] <Kilos> yay ty superfly 
[16:15] <superfly> just spending 15 minutes waiting for everything Internet related to load
[16:15] <Kilos> making supper?
[16:15] <Kilos> how is mrs_fly 
[16:15] <theblaze> Kilos nice
[16:16] <Kilos> yeah theblaze been a very good reliable OS for me
[16:17] <superfly> Kilos: fine thanks. all good here
[16:17] <Kilos> is it min dae yet superfly 
[16:17] <Kilos> i gonna give you 40 days?
[16:17] <superfly> Kilos: I dunno, what consitutes min dae?
[16:18] <superfly> oh, it's less than 40 days now
[16:18] <Kilos> you never went to the army i see
[16:18] <superfly> well, it's around 40 days
[16:18] <Kilos> whew we praying for you
[16:20] <Kilos> kbmonkey, ping
[16:24] <superfly> *sigh* 67 megs taking 9 hours to download? yes folks, that's internet in south africa
[16:24] <Kilos> wow
[16:24] <Kilos> worse than gprs
[16:26]  * Squirm yawns
[16:26] <smile4ever> :D
[16:29] <Kilos> yo smile4ever 
[16:29] <Kilos> Squirm, you tired already
[16:29] <Kilos> weekend hasnt started yet
[16:30] <smile4ever> hi Kilos :) it's hot :(
[16:30] <Kilos> send it here
[16:43] <charl> good evening
[16:44] <Kilos> hiya charl 
[16:44] <Kilos> smile4ever, whats the temp there?
[16:45] <charl> hi Kilos 
[16:47] <smile4ever> Kilos: pff.. :p about 23 :|
[16:47] <Kilos> whew they definitely dont make men like they used to
[16:47] <Kilos> 23°c is cool
[16:48] <smile4ever> it's hot :o
[16:48] <smile4ever> for an evening :p
[16:48] <Kilos> too cold to go swimming even
[16:48] <smile4ever> in belgium :p
[16:48] <smile4ever> no, it's good temp to go to swim :p
[16:48] <Kilos> eish in the bath maybe if you have hot water
[16:51] <Kilos> all good charl ?
[16:51] <charl> Kilos: they don't make men like they used to hey... i would like to see you in -15 then we'll see who's the real man :P
[16:52] <charl> nah i'm all good, just tired, and you?
[16:52] <smile4ever> Kilos: we have hot water, but we prefer cold ;)
[16:52] <Kilos> lol im not crazy. we mfreeze meat at that temp
[16:52] <Kilos> im good ty charl 
[16:53] <charl> yeah -15 is reserved for real men... :P
[16:55] <smile4ever> charl: lol. :p
[16:56] <Kilos> no man thats for dead cattle and sheep
[16:56] <Kilos> oh and penguins and walrusses
[16:57] <charl> no they prefer -30
[16:57] <charl> this climate is too hot for them
[16:57] <Kilos> hehe
[17:16] <Kilos> you guys will die where magespawn stays
[17:16] <Kilos> 40°c often in summer
[17:31] <charl> i survived more than that in gaborone
[17:32] <charl> it can get up to 50 degrees in the summer
[17:32] <Kilos> you musta got a good tan there
[17:32] <Kilos> no shortage of vitamin D
[17:50] <Kilos> yo zeref 
[17:50] <Kilos> holiday over already
[17:51] <charl> no i tried to stay out of the sun as much as possible
[17:51] <charl> the desert is a recipe for skin cancwer
[17:51] <charl> *cancer
[17:51] <Kilos> haha yeah
[18:06] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:07] <charl> nn
[18:26] <smile4ever> bye :)
[18:28] <charl> bye smile4ever 
[18:28] <smile4ever> good night
[19:03] <magespawn> Evening all
[19:16] <charl> hi magespawn 
[19:33] <magespawn> Hi charl
[19:51] <superfly> hey magespawn
[19:51] <magespawn> Hey superfly
[19:53]  * superfly is busy trying to fix a port in FreeBSD
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[20:06] <charl> i heard the most awesome news today
[20:06] <charl> flash is cutting support for the android
[20:09] <Kerbero> wow\
[20:09] <Kerbero> that is awesome
[20:09] <Kerbero> html5, here we go
[20:10] <charl> srsly, it was one of the few things i had against the android platform
[20:10] <charl> at least that is one thing that apple did right on the iphone/ipad
[20:10] <charl> death to flash
[20:11] <charl> and then that android product manager that poked fun at the iphone for not supporting flash... i wonder what he has to say now
[20:12] <charl> i can't recall which video that was but i think it was http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxzucwjFEEs
[20:19] <inetpro> charl: thanks, that sounds like good news
[20:27] <charl> inetpro: yup
[20:42] <magespawn> I am off, night all.
[20:47] <charl> nn all