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[Relic]does xubuntu automatically compensate for the logitech g300 mouse now or do I need the bash info yet?01:04
delt_hello01:22
delt_very nice distribution btw, thanks!01:23
delt_question: how do i change the fbconsole (and grub) video mode? it's using like 1600x1200 mode or something01:23
delt_also, there's no /etc/inittab ...????01:24
Unit193You'd change it in /etc/default/grub and sudo update-grub01:27
Unit193!inittab01:27
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/01:27
delt_thanks for the info :D01:36
delt_i see upstart was first developed/used on ubuntu, around 2006, right?01:39
Unit193Was first an Ubuntu thing, yes.01:40
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[Relic]is there a find file somewhere on xubuntu?05:43
Unit193You can use find or locate, or catfish if you want gui.05:43
[Relic]found catfish, ctrl-f popped up something in the file manager but seemed to do nothing05:44
baizon[Relic]: open terminal, run sudo updatedb05:45
baizonthen try catfish :)05:45
Mathsterki'm thinking about getting more ram, do you think xubuntu would like it or nag on me?05:45
baizonmy xubuntu is using 400MB RAM :)05:46
baizonand im using zeitgeist05:46
Unit193As long as the system supports the ram, it'll be good.05:46
Mathsterkbaizon: 512 here :P05:47
baizoni got 4GB :)05:47
Mathsterki upgraded when i had windows one time, it didn't like it very well :P05:48
baizonok so more ram would be good05:48
baizonwindows xp you need at least 1GB RAM05:48
[Relic]quad core with 4G here, first time I reinstalled an OS since I built it in 0805:48
Mathsterki got a dead laptop here, it has 2*512 mb ddr :D (my laptop has 2*256 ddr)05:49
Mathsterkbrb, restart, the upgrade is complete :)05:49
[Relic]built a stand up work desk so I figured I might as well try a new OS while I was redoing everything for my computer  :)05:50
Mathsterkbooting was _slower_, but overall, it is faster :D06:00
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al1I'm having some trouble installing .bin files. Can anybody help.10:54
astraljavaAnd you, what, waited for how many minutes for that help?11:13
Mathsterk4:0611:13
astraljavaWow. Probably not a record, but close.11:14
Unit193No, I've seen less than 30 seconds.11:16
psycho_oreoshow about attention span of a fruit fly?11:16
* psycho_oreos has seen 5 seconds11:17
psycho_oreostime must be money to them :)11:17
MissVeraAnyone around?11:23
MissVeraIf you were to download Xubuntu, which version should you get?11:27
psycho_oreoslatest?11:27
psycho_oreosnot everyone's use case are exactly the same11:28
MissVeraIf you were to download Xubuntu, which version should you get? 8.10 but i didnt know about the others11:29
MissVeraew, copied.11:29
MissVeraIm trying to figure out if i should switch over from puppy linux, and someone recommended xubuntu11:29
psycho_oreosxubuntu's versioning is exactly identical to that of {k,l}ubuntu. The latest iinm is 12.0411:31
psycho_oreoserr identical as in they release it by year.month as version11:31
psycho_oreos8.10 would be like October 2008 release.. vs 12.04 which is April 201211:32
psycho_oreosand you still haven't really described your use case. Coming from puppy linux, I'm guessing you are planning to run xubuntu on either a fairly old hardware (with limited resources) and/or embedded hardware11:33
MissVerayes11:35
MissVeraOld11:35
MissVeraBut, the people in #linux thought with my hardware, I may be able to run Ubuntu and to just go with that11:35
MissVeraIts for a kids computer. So. Surfing the web, skype video chat, and a few games11:36
psycho_oreosI'm guessing its #linux from another IRC network. Well I guess you can probably run xubuntu but you haven't given me the specifications, I'd assume you might be able to get away with some simple games11:38
Unit193!8.10|It doesn't get any updates, security or otherwise11:38
ubottuIt doesn't get any updates, security or otherwise: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) was the ninth release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 30th, 2010. See !eol and !upgrade for more details.11:38
MissVeraim just trying to find one that i know supports skype For Sure.11:41
MissVeraI started with lubuntu first, had so many issues with it, i gave up and moved to puppy, and then while trying to resolve an issue with puppy, was told to try xubuntu  >.>11:42
psycho_oreosskype is fairly demanding on both the host computer's resources as well as support. Version 8.10 won't get you very far11:42
MissVera... Im not hung up on that release, its just the only one ive noticed can run skype11:42
MissVeraIm trying to ask...11:43
psycho_oreosthe latter versions might, skype isn't open source afaik which generally makes support flaky.11:43
MathsterkMissVera: i tried skype with 10.04(?) on a notebook, it worked perfectly, i think it was 1,5 years ago or something11:46
Mathsterknetbook*11:46
psycho_oreos!skype11:47
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga11:47
MathsterkMissVera: btw, what hardware do you got?11:48
Mathsterkoooooh, the new sound manager in 12.04, i love it :D11:53
MissVeraerhm11:54
MissVeraOne sec. Sorry. was asking people in #linux something... And then remembered why i hate asking them anything.11:54
Mathsterkdo they shout at you? :o11:54
MissVeraAMD Sempron 3000+ 2.00GHz  and then about a gb and a half of ram11:55
MissVeraNo.  Some of them are just condescending pricks that tell me to go away since i dont know anything about linux11:55
Mathsterkok, better than my netbook, it should handle xubuntu + skype good11:55
psycho_oreosand it wouldn't have any issues running the latest either with that sort of hardware specs11:57
MissVeraSomeone told me I MIGHT be able to run actual Ubuntu, but I dunno :/   Is there a major difference between the two?11:58
Mathsterkmy experience is that ubuntu is heavier than xubuntu11:58
psycho_oreosubuntu has gnome frontend as opposed to xubuntu's xfce frontend. They share the same base otherwise12:00
psycho_oreosand lubuntu is just ubuntu with lxde instead of gnome12:00
psycho_oreosUI is fairly similar in gnome (old variants, not the current iteration of ubuntu for that matter) for xfce12:01
MissVeraOh! I tried The newer Fedora first, and that gnome wouldnt run, does that mean the newer Ubuntu wouldnt work right?12:01
psycho_oreosno the newer ubuntu has unity interface, which to a fair few, ugly. They had unity since 11.10 or something iinm12:02
psycho_oreosand fedora may have gnome 3 iinm12:02
MissVerayeah. its gnome 312:04
psycho_oreosbtw, gnome wouldn't run wouldn't mean it would be gnome's fault. Remember, gnome is just a UI, the underlying process that renders the GUI is Xorg. Xorg allows users to have GUI interface however things may not work ideally all the time for any situation12:04
psycho_oreosI'm certain that the latter ubuntu (>11.04) would've had gnome 3 except they added unity on top of that. Supposedly one can return to the classic mode which gives the user gnome 3 UI instead12:06
MissVeraWow the people in Linux are elitist pricks12:07
MissVeraI dont want to read reviews and wikis and how tos anymore. I want to speak to an actual person to have actual questions answered...12:07
MathsterkMissVera: try xubuntu, if it doesn't work, try something else etc.12:08
knomeMissVera, recheck your attitude12:08
psycho_oreosheh elitists exist everywhere :) they aren't platform specific12:08
MissVeraThe Channel in IRC.12:09
MissVeraThere is no attitude to check.  asked for an opinion, Politely, and got reamed.12:09
MathsterkMissVera: that's like saying "there is water in the sea"12:10
knomeMissVera, skype works for many with the 12.04 release. that's all we can say. is there any other support question you have?12:10
MissVeraI've been trying for Four Days to get these computers running for these kids,12:11
MissVeraNo. none. I'm . I give up.12:11
Mathsterklol12:13
Mathsterkwell skype works perfectly on this box :)12:13
psycho_oreosyou can't crack rubik's cube without an open mind :)12:17
Mathsterk:P12:21
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ebonygeek45anyone here13:19
chagmaierhello!13:37
chagmaierDoes the Xubuntu Desktop ISO require PXE?13:38
Unit193PAE? Not 12.04, but most newer computers have it, I take it yours doesn't?13:42
chagmaierNo, its an older laptop.  Pentium M processor13:43
chagmaier*PAE Rather, Thanks!13:43
Unit193Some PMs have it, some don't.  I was lucky enough to have one that does.13:44
Unit19312.10 won't have that option at all, IIRC.13:44
knomethat's correct13:45
knomebut you can still upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 and have non-pae13:45
chagmaierThanks a ton!13:46
Marzatawhy ntp is not working in xubuntu 12.04? any fix?14:10
Wizardo/17:39
[Relic]easiest way to find the files with differences in two large sets of sub dirs (should just be file sizes or missing files) is....?18:01
deltHello18:35
delt!xfce18:36
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels18:36
delt!kde18:36
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is an open community that creates and maintains software including the Plasma desktop.  To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install  kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See  http://kubuntu.org for more information.18:36
deltoh yeah, that's what i wanted to ask.... what is up with my /etc/resolv.conf containing just the loopback??? however looking up hosts, using the internet etc. works fine???18:39
* delt confuzzled.... :318:39
Unit193!resvolconf18:42
Unit193!resolvconf18:43
ubotturesolvconf is a set of scripts that's used to manage /etc/resolv.conf in 12.04, for more information please see: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/18:43
Unit193Bah, but that's for cacheing.18:43
deltah got it -- "Anyone whos been using 12.04 over the past month or so may have noticed some pretty significant changes in the way we do DNS resolving in Ubuntu."18:44
deltin which context a hook is like a callback function, but instead in form of a script, right?18:45
delt(well, usually a script)18:46
deltso, in other news... when's the next release with xfce-4.10? :D :D18:51
Sysixx.10.2012, or grab 4.10 from xubuntu-dev ppa (not officially supported but works well)18:54
Unit19312.10 will have it.18:54
Wizard:)19:18
boltenjust installed xubuntu and my mouse is really buggy. the entire window manager is unresponsive at times. anyone know how to fix this?19:33
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martinphonehelp, I know how to change the names of file inside a directory with bash commands, for instance, untill the 1st or second - or _, but now I have 33 folders in which I need to get rid of "reinhart mey - ", is there any easier way?20:07
martinphoneinstead of going dingle dir by single dir...20:07
shpankmartinphone:20:09
shpank#!/bin/bash20:09
shpankFILES=/path/to/*20:09
shpankfor f in $FILES20:09
shpankdo echo "Processing $f file..." # take action on each file. $f store current file name cat $f20:09
Picia combination of find and rename will do this just fine.20:10
cinchresizing windows is pretty inconsistent in xubuntu, sometimes the mouse cursor doesnt change. the faq says to use Alt+right-drag, is there any other solution?20:16
vjacobanyone here who could help me find out why my Ubunto graphical user interfaces never gets past an animated load screen (text says "Xubuntu")? Running latest LTS Ubuntu.20:23
martinphonefind . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sed -i 's/Reinhard Mey - //g', what about that?20:32
martinphonefind . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sed -i 's/Reinhard Mey - //g'20:33
vjacobno?20:35
vjacobok20:39
vjacobthat's a bit of a bummer.20:39
vjacob<sad>20:40
knomevjacob, you can try the ubuntuforums and askubuntu while you wait20:43
vjacobok, smashing.20:43
xubuntu918nice idea to add url to web irc while installing21:32
xubuntu918:)21:32
knomeglad to hear you like it21:32
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xubuntu918xubuntu = brilliant, I love your work guys21:41
knomethanks. enjoy!21:42
mongyit's the mutts nuts21:45
[Relic]is there a built in clipboard for this? not sure where anything is on x22:01
GridCubeyou can add a clipboard to the panel22:02
GridCubebut you probably need to install the xfce4-goodies22:03
Martin__Hello, I'm having trouble installing xubuntu 12.04 on my laptop. It hangs every time just after loading the partitioning tools. Has anyone had any similar problems?22:49
blackgatonegrotry installing xubuntu 11.10 then upgrade22:51
blackgatonegrothats the solution official support is giving.22:51
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roninnhi, is it possible to get the list of software packages that are in the installation of xubuntu for example. lamp-server, www-server, ubuntu-desktop at later point23:22
roninnI forgot to intsall www-server and I'm lacking var/www23:22
roninnand thanks for the great distribution23:23
genii-aroundroninn: I believe what you're thinking of is tasksel23:26
genii-aroundroninn: If you want to get a list of what you currently already have installed: sudo dpkg --get-selections     ... to search for something by name or part of name: apt-cache search <name>  ... to see if a particular package is installed: apt-cache policy packagename23:29
roninnyeah tasksel is the piece of software i was looking for23:29
roninnor maybe it's not a good way to install with tasksel and apt-get and aptitude...23:33
genii-aroundtasksel is the best way to make sure you have all the pieces and their config files for the PHP,webserver and database23:35
GridCuberoninn, check the xubuntu-desktop metapackage23:36
roninnI have xubuntu-desktop installed23:36
roninnbut I'm missing var www23:36
roninnso I need lamp and www-server package collections23:36
GridCube!info lamp23:36
ubottuPackage lamp does not exist in precise23:36
GridCube!lamp23:36
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)23:37
roninntasksel helps23:37
GridCube!find lamp23:37
ubottuFound: lampython23:37
roninnbut I don't know what is the right way to install those server softwares23:37
GridCuberoninn, check the link ubottu just said23:37
roninnthanks23:41

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