[01:04] <[Relic]> does xubuntu automatically compensate for the logitech g300 mouse now or do I need the bash info yet?
[01:22] <delt_> hello
[01:23] <delt_> very nice distribution btw, thanks!
[01:23] <delt_> question: how do i change the fbconsole (and grub) video mode? it's using like 1600x1200 mode or something
[01:24] <delt_> also, there's no /etc/inittab ...????
[01:27] <Unit193> You'd change it in /etc/default/grub and sudo update-grub
[01:27] <Unit193> !inittab
[01:36] <delt_> thanks for the info :D
[01:39] <delt_> i see upstart was first developed/used on ubuntu, around 2006, right?
[01:40] <Unit193> Was first an Ubuntu thing, yes.
[05:43] <[Relic]> is there a find file somewhere on xubuntu?
[05:43] <Unit193> You can use find or locate, or catfish if you want gui.
[05:44] <[Relic]> found catfish, ctrl-f popped up something in the file manager but seemed to do nothing
[05:45] <baizon> [Relic]: open terminal, run sudo updatedb
[05:45] <baizon> then try catfish :)
[05:45] <Mathsterk> i'm thinking about getting more ram, do you think xubuntu would like it or nag on me?
[05:46] <baizon> my xubuntu is using 400MB RAM :)
[05:46] <baizon> and im using zeitgeist
[05:46] <Unit193> As long as the system supports the ram, it'll be good.
[05:47] <Mathsterk> baizon: 512 here :P
[05:47] <baizon> i got 4GB :)
[05:48] <Mathsterk> i upgraded when i had windows one time, it didn't like it very well :P
[05:48] <baizon> ok so more ram would be good
[05:48] <baizon> windows xp you need at least 1GB RAM
[05:48] <[Relic]> quad core with 4G here, first time I reinstalled an OS since I built it in 08
[05:49] <Mathsterk> i got a dead laptop here, it has 2*512 mb ddr :D (my laptop has 2*256 ddr)
[05:49] <Mathsterk> brb, restart, the upgrade is complete :)
[05:50] <[Relic]> built a stand up work desk so I figured I might as well try a new OS while I was redoing everything for my computer  :)
[06:00] <Mathsterk> booting was _slower_, but overall, it is faster :D
[10:54] <al1> I'm having some trouble installing .bin files. Can anybody help.
[11:13] <astraljava> And you, what, waited for how many minutes for that help?
[11:13] <Mathsterk> 4:06
[11:14] <astraljava> Wow. Probably not a record, but close.
[11:16] <Unit193> No, I've seen less than 30 seconds.
[11:16] <psycho_oreos> how about attention span of a fruit fly?
[11:17]  * psycho_oreos has seen 5 seconds
[11:17] <psycho_oreos> time must be money to them :)
[11:23] <MissVera> Anyone around?
[11:27] <MissVera> If you were to download Xubuntu, which version should you get?
[11:27] <psycho_oreos> latest?
[11:28] <psycho_oreos> not everyone's use case are exactly the same
[11:29] <MissVera> If you were to download Xubuntu, which version should you get? 8.10 but i didnt know about the others
[11:29] <MissVera> ew, copied.
[11:29] <MissVera> Im trying to figure out if i should switch over from puppy linux, and someone recommended xubuntu
[11:31] <psycho_oreos> xubuntu's versioning is exactly identical to that of {k,l}ubuntu. The latest iinm is 12.04
[11:31] <psycho_oreos> err identical as in they release it by year.month as version
[11:32] <psycho_oreos> 8.10 would be like October 2008 release.. vs 12.04 which is April 2012
[11:33] <psycho_oreos> and you still haven't really described your use case. Coming from puppy linux, I'm guessing you are planning to run xubuntu on either a fairly old hardware (with limited resources) and/or embedded hardware
[11:35] <MissVera> yes
[11:35] <MissVera> Old
[11:35] <MissVera> But, the people in #linux thought with my hardware, I may be able to run Ubuntu and to just go with that
[11:36] <MissVera> Its for a kids computer. So. Surfing the web, skype video chat, and a few games
[11:38] <psycho_oreos> I'm guessing its #linux from another IRC network. Well I guess you can probably run xubuntu but you haven't given me the specifications, I'd assume you might be able to get away with some simple games
[11:38] <Unit193> !8.10|It doesn't get any updates, security or otherwise
[11:41] <MissVera> im just trying to find one that i know supports skype For Sure.
[11:42] <MissVera> I started with lubuntu first, had so many issues with it, i gave up and moved to puppy, and then while trying to resolve an issue with puppy, was told to try xubuntu  >.>
[11:42] <psycho_oreos> skype is fairly demanding on both the host computer's resources as well as support. Version 8.10 won't get you very far
[11:42] <MissVera> ... Im not hung up on that release, its just the only one ive noticed can run skype
[11:43] <MissVera> Im trying to ask...
[11:43] <psycho_oreos> the latter versions might, skype isn't open source afaik which generally makes support flaky.
[11:46] <Mathsterk> MissVera: i tried skype with 10.04(?) on a notebook, it worked perfectly, i think it was 1,5 years ago or something
[11:46] <Mathsterk> netbook*
[11:47] <psycho_oreos> !skype
[11:48] <Mathsterk> MissVera: btw, what hardware do you got?
[11:53] <Mathsterk> oooooh, the new sound manager in 12.04, i love it :D
[11:54] <MissVera> erhm
[11:54] <MissVera> One sec. Sorry. was asking people in #linux something... And then remembered why i hate asking them anything.
[11:54] <Mathsterk> do they shout at you? :o
[11:55] <MissVera> AMD Sempron 3000+ 2.00GHz  and then about a gb and a half of ram
[11:55] <MissVera> No.  Some of them are just condescending pricks that tell me to go away since i dont know anything about linux
[11:55] <Mathsterk> ok, better than my netbook, it should handle xubuntu + skype good
[11:57] <psycho_oreos> and it wouldn't have any issues running the latest either with that sort of hardware specs
[11:58] <MissVera> Someone told me I MIGHT be able to run actual Ubuntu, but I dunno :/   Is there a major difference between the two?
[11:58] <Mathsterk> my experience is that ubuntu is heavier than xubuntu
[12:00] <psycho_oreos> ubuntu has gnome frontend as opposed to xubuntu's xfce frontend. They share the same base otherwise
[12:00] <psycho_oreos> and lubuntu is just ubuntu with lxde instead of gnome
[12:01] <psycho_oreos> UI is fairly similar in gnome (old variants, not the current iteration of ubuntu for that matter) for xfce
[12:01] <MissVera> Oh! I tried The newer Fedora first, and that gnome wouldnt run, does that mean the newer Ubuntu wouldnt work right?
[12:02] <psycho_oreos> no the newer ubuntu has unity interface, which to a fair few, ugly. They had unity since 11.10 or something iinm
[12:02] <psycho_oreos> and fedora may have gnome 3 iinm
[12:04] <MissVera> yeah. its gnome 3
[12:04] <psycho_oreos> btw, gnome wouldn't run wouldn't mean it would be gnome's fault. Remember, gnome is just a UI, the underlying process that renders the GUI is Xorg. Xorg allows users to have GUI interface however things may not work ideally all the time for any situation
[12:06] <psycho_oreos> I'm certain that the latter ubuntu (>11.04) would've had gnome 3 except they added unity on top of that. Supposedly one can return to the classic mode which gives the user gnome 3 UI instead
[12:07] <MissVera> Wow the people in Linux are elitist pricks
[12:07] <MissVera> I dont want to read reviews and wikis and how tos anymore. I want to speak to an actual person to have actual questions answered...
[12:08] <Mathsterk> MissVera: try xubuntu, if it doesn't work, try something else etc.
[12:08] <knome> MissVera, recheck your attitude
[12:08] <psycho_oreos> heh elitists exist everywhere :) they aren't platform specific
[12:09] <MissVera> The Channel in IRC.
[12:09] <MissVera> There is no attitude to check.  asked for an opinion, Politely, and got reamed.
[12:10] <Mathsterk> MissVera: that's like saying "there is water in the sea"
[12:10] <knome> MissVera, skype works for many with the 12.04 release. that's all we can say. is there any other support question you have?
[12:11] <MissVera> I've been trying for Four Days to get these computers running for these kids,
[12:11] <MissVera> No. none. I'm . I give up.
[12:13] <Mathsterk> lol
[12:13] <Mathsterk> well skype works perfectly on this box :)
[12:17] <psycho_oreos> you can't crack rubik's cube without an open mind :)
[12:21] <Mathsterk> :P
[13:19] <ebonygeek45> anyone here
[13:37] <chagmaier> hello!
[13:38] <chagmaier> Does the Xubuntu Desktop ISO require PXE?
[13:42] <Unit193> PAE? Not 12.04, but most newer computers have it, I take it yours doesn't?
[13:43] <chagmaier> No, its an older laptop.  Pentium M processor
[13:43] <chagmaier> *PAE Rather, Thanks!
[13:44] <Unit193> Some PMs have it, some don't.  I was lucky enough to have one that does.
[13:44] <Unit193> 12.10 won't have that option at all, IIRC.
[13:45] <knome> that's correct
[13:45] <knome> but you can still upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 and have non-pae
[13:46] <chagmaier> Thanks a ton!
[14:10] <Marzata> why ntp is not working in xubuntu 12.04? any fix?
[17:39] <Wizard> o/
[18:01] <[Relic]> easiest way to find the files with differences in two large sets of sub dirs (should just be file sizes or missing files) is....?
[18:35] <delt> Hello
[18:36] <delt> !xfce
[18:36] <delt> !kde
[18:39] <delt> oh yeah, that's what i wanted to ask.... what is up with my /etc/resolv.conf containing just the loopback??? however looking up hosts, using the internet etc. works fine???
[18:39]  * delt confuzzled.... :3
[18:42] <Unit193> !resvolconf
[18:43] <Unit193> !resolvconf
[18:43] <Unit193> Bah, but that's for cacheing.
[18:44] <delt> ah got it -- "Anyone whos been using 12.04 over the past month or so may have noticed some pretty significant changes in the way we do DNS resolving in Ubuntu."
[18:45] <delt> in which context a hook is like a callback function, but instead in form of a script, right?
[18:46] <delt> (well, usually a script)
[18:51] <delt> so, in other news... when's the next release with xfce-4.10? :D :D
[18:54] <Sysi> xx.10.2012, or grab 4.10 from xubuntu-dev ppa (not officially supported but works well)
[18:54] <Unit193> 12.10 will have it.
[19:18] <Wizard> :)
[19:33] <bolten> just installed xubuntu and my mouse is really buggy. the entire window manager is unresponsive at times. anyone know how to fix this?
[20:07] <martinphone> help, I know how to change the names of file inside a directory with bash commands, for instance, untill the 1st or second - or _, but now I have 33 folders in which I need to get rid of "reinhart mey - ", is there any easier way?
[20:07] <martinphone> instead of going dingle dir by single dir...
[20:09] <shpank> martinphone:
[20:09] <shpank> #!/bin/bash
[20:09] <shpank> FILES=/path/to/*
[20:09] <shpank> for f in $FILES
[20:09] <shpank> do echo "Processing $f file..." # take action on each file. $f store current file name cat $f
[20:10] <Pici> a combination of find and rename will do this just fine.
[20:16] <cinch> resizing windows is pretty inconsistent in xubuntu, sometimes the mouse cursor doesnt change. the faq says to use Alt+right-drag, is there any other solution?
[20:23] <vjacob> anyone here who could help me find out why my Ubunto graphical user interfaces never gets past an animated load screen (text says "Xubuntu")? Running latest LTS Ubuntu.
[20:32] <martinphone> find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sed -i 's/Reinhard Mey - //g', what about that?
[20:33] <martinphone> find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sed -i 's/Reinhard Mey - //g'
[20:35] <vjacob> no?
[20:39] <vjacob> ok
[20:39] <vjacob> that's a bit of a bummer.
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[20:43] <knome> vjacob, you can try the ubuntuforums and askubuntu while you wait
[20:43] <vjacob> ok, smashing.
[21:32] <xubuntu918> nice idea to add url to web irc while installing
[21:32] <xubuntu918> :)
[21:32] <knome> glad to hear you like it
[21:41] <xubuntu918> xubuntu = brilliant, I love your work guys
[21:42] <knome> thanks. enjoy!
[21:45] <mongy> it's the mutts nuts
[22:01] <[Relic]> is there a built in clipboard for this? not sure where anything is on x
[22:02] <GridCube> you can add a clipboard to the panel
[22:03] <GridCube> but you probably need to install the xfce4-goodies
[22:49] <Martin__> Hello, I'm having trouble installing xubuntu 12.04 on my laptop. It hangs every time just after loading the partitioning tools. Has anyone had any similar problems?
[22:51] <blackgatonegro> try installing xubuntu 11.10 then upgrade
[22:51] <blackgatonegro> thats the solution official support is giving.
[23:22] <roninn> hi, is it possible to get the list of software packages that are in the installation of xubuntu for example. lamp-server, www-server, ubuntu-desktop at later point
[23:22] <roninn> I forgot to intsall www-server and I'm lacking var/www
[23:23] <roninn> and thanks for the great distribution
[23:26] <genii-around> roninn: I believe what you're thinking of is tasksel
[23:29] <genii-around> roninn: If you want to get a list of what you currently already have installed: sudo dpkg --get-selections     ... to search for something by name or part of name: apt-cache search <name>  ... to see if a particular package is installed: apt-cache policy packagename
[23:29] <roninn> yeah tasksel is the piece of software i was looking for
[23:33] <roninn> or maybe it's not a good way to install with tasksel and apt-get and aptitude...
[23:35] <genii-around> tasksel is the best way to make sure you have all the pieces and their config files for the PHP,webserver and database
[23:36] <GridCube> roninn, check the xubuntu-desktop metapackage
[23:36] <roninn> I have xubuntu-desktop installed
[23:36] <roninn> but I'm missing var www
[23:36] <roninn> so I need lamp and www-server package collections
[23:36] <GridCube> !info lamp
[23:36] <GridCube> !lamp
[23:37] <roninn> tasksel helps
[23:37] <GridCube> !find lamp
[23:37] <roninn> but I don't know what is the right way to install those server softwares
[23:37] <GridCube> roninn, check the link ubottu just said
[23:41] <roninn> thanks