=== Guest99167 is now known as ponbiki [01:04] <[Relic]> does xubuntu automatically compensate for the logitech g300 mouse now or do I need the bash info yet? [01:22] hello [01:23] very nice distribution btw, thanks! [01:23] question: how do i change the fbconsole (and grub) video mode? it's using like 1600x1200 mode or something [01:24] also, there's no /etc/inittab ...???? [01:27] You'd change it in /etc/default/grub and sudo update-grub [01:27] !inittab [01:27] Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model. For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ [01:36] thanks for the info :D [01:39] i see upstart was first developed/used on ubuntu, around 2006, right? [01:40] Was first an Ubuntu thing, yes. === init is now known as Exio === Exio is now known as Ex [05:43] <[Relic]> is there a find file somewhere on xubuntu? [05:43] You can use find or locate, or catfish if you want gui. [05:44] <[Relic]> found catfish, ctrl-f popped up something in the file manager but seemed to do nothing [05:45] [Relic]: open terminal, run sudo updatedb [05:45] then try catfish :) [05:45] i'm thinking about getting more ram, do you think xubuntu would like it or nag on me? [05:46] my xubuntu is using 400MB RAM :) [05:46] and im using zeitgeist [05:46] As long as the system supports the ram, it'll be good. [05:47] baizon: 512 here :P [05:47] i got 4GB :) [05:48] i upgraded when i had windows one time, it didn't like it very well :P [05:48] ok so more ram would be good [05:48] windows xp you need at least 1GB RAM [05:48] <[Relic]> quad core with 4G here, first time I reinstalled an OS since I built it in 08 [05:49] i got a dead laptop here, it has 2*512 mb ddr :D (my laptop has 2*256 ddr) [05:49] brb, restart, the upgrade is complete :) [05:50] <[Relic]> built a stand up work desk so I figured I might as well try a new OS while I was redoing everything for my computer :) [06:00] booting was _slower_, but overall, it is faster :D === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === myrtti is now known as Myrtti [10:54] I'm having some trouble installing .bin files. Can anybody help. [11:13] And you, what, waited for how many minutes for that help? [11:13] 4:06 [11:14] Wow. Probably not a record, but close. [11:16] No, I've seen less than 30 seconds. [11:16] how about attention span of a fruit fly? [11:17] * psycho_oreos has seen 5 seconds [11:17] time must be money to them :) [11:23] Anyone around? [11:27] If you were to download Xubuntu, which version should you get? [11:27] latest? [11:28] not everyone's use case are exactly the same [11:29] If you were to download Xubuntu, which version should you get? 8.10 but i didnt know about the others [11:29] ew, copied. [11:29] Im trying to figure out if i should switch over from puppy linux, and someone recommended xubuntu [11:31] xubuntu's versioning is exactly identical to that of {k,l}ubuntu. The latest iinm is 12.04 [11:31] err identical as in they release it by year.month as version [11:32] 8.10 would be like October 2008 release.. vs 12.04 which is April 2012 [11:33] and you still haven't really described your use case. Coming from puppy linux, I'm guessing you are planning to run xubuntu on either a fairly old hardware (with limited resources) and/or embedded hardware [11:35] yes [11:35] Old [11:35] But, the people in #linux thought with my hardware, I may be able to run Ubuntu and to just go with that [11:36] Its for a kids computer. So. Surfing the web, skype video chat, and a few games [11:38] I'm guessing its #linux from another IRC network. Well I guess you can probably run xubuntu but you haven't given me the specifications, I'd assume you might be able to get away with some simple games [11:38] !8.10|It doesn't get any updates, security or otherwise [11:38] It doesn't get any updates, security or otherwise: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) was the ninth release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 30th, 2010. See !eol and !upgrade for more details. [11:41] im just trying to find one that i know supports skype For Sure. [11:42] I started with lubuntu first, had so many issues with it, i gave up and moved to puppy, and then while trying to resolve an issue with puppy, was told to try xubuntu >.> [11:42] skype is fairly demanding on both the host computer's resources as well as support. Version 8.10 won't get you very far [11:42] ... Im not hung up on that release, its just the only one ive noticed can run skype [11:43] Im trying to ask... [11:43] the latter versions might, skype isn't open source afaik which generally makes support flaky. [11:46] MissVera: i tried skype with 10.04(?) on a notebook, it worked perfectly, i think it was 1,5 years ago or something [11:46] netbook* [11:47] !skype [11:47] To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga [11:48] MissVera: btw, what hardware do you got? [11:53] oooooh, the new sound manager in 12.04, i love it :D [11:54] erhm [11:54] One sec. Sorry. was asking people in #linux something... And then remembered why i hate asking them anything. [11:54] do they shout at you? :o [11:55] AMD Sempron 3000+ 2.00GHz and then about a gb and a half of ram [11:55] No. Some of them are just condescending pricks that tell me to go away since i dont know anything about linux [11:55] ok, better than my netbook, it should handle xubuntu + skype good [11:57] and it wouldn't have any issues running the latest either with that sort of hardware specs [11:58] Someone told me I MIGHT be able to run actual Ubuntu, but I dunno :/ Is there a major difference between the two? [11:58] my experience is that ubuntu is heavier than xubuntu [12:00] ubuntu has gnome frontend as opposed to xubuntu's xfce frontend. They share the same base otherwise [12:00] and lubuntu is just ubuntu with lxde instead of gnome [12:01] UI is fairly similar in gnome (old variants, not the current iteration of ubuntu for that matter) for xfce [12:01] Oh! I tried The newer Fedora first, and that gnome wouldnt run, does that mean the newer Ubuntu wouldnt work right? [12:02] no the newer ubuntu has unity interface, which to a fair few, ugly. They had unity since 11.10 or something iinm [12:02] and fedora may have gnome 3 iinm [12:04] yeah. its gnome 3 [12:04] btw, gnome wouldn't run wouldn't mean it would be gnome's fault. Remember, gnome is just a UI, the underlying process that renders the GUI is Xorg. Xorg allows users to have GUI interface however things may not work ideally all the time for any situation [12:06] I'm certain that the latter ubuntu (>11.04) would've had gnome 3 except they added unity on top of that. Supposedly one can return to the classic mode which gives the user gnome 3 UI instead [12:07] Wow the people in Linux are elitist pricks [12:07] I dont want to read reviews and wikis and how tos anymore. I want to speak to an actual person to have actual questions answered... [12:08] MissVera: try xubuntu, if it doesn't work, try something else etc. [12:08] MissVera, recheck your attitude [12:08] heh elitists exist everywhere :) they aren't platform specific [12:09] The Channel in IRC. [12:09] There is no attitude to check. asked for an opinion, Politely, and got reamed. [12:10] MissVera: that's like saying "there is water in the sea" [12:10] MissVera, skype works for many with the 12.04 release. that's all we can say. is there any other support question you have? [12:11] I've been trying for Four Days to get these computers running for these kids, [12:11] No. none. I'm . I give up. [12:13] lol [12:13] well skype works perfectly on this box :) [12:17] you can't crack rubik's cube without an open mind :) [12:21] :P === myrtti is now known as Myrtti [13:19] anyone here [13:37] hello! [13:38] Does the Xubuntu Desktop ISO require PXE? [13:42] PAE? Not 12.04, but most newer computers have it, I take it yours doesn't? [13:43] No, its an older laptop. Pentium M processor [13:43] *PAE Rather, Thanks! [13:44] Some PMs have it, some don't. I was lucky enough to have one that does. [13:44] 12.10 won't have that option at all, IIRC. [13:45] that's correct [13:45] but you can still upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 and have non-pae [13:46] Thanks a ton! [14:10] why ntp is not working in xubuntu 12.04? any fix? [17:39] o/ [18:01] <[Relic]> easiest way to find the files with differences in two large sets of sub dirs (should just be file sizes or missing files) is....? [18:35] Hello [18:36] !xfce [18:36] Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels [18:36] !kde [18:36] KDE (http://kde.org) is an open community that creates and maintains software including the Plasma desktop. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. [18:39] oh yeah, that's what i wanted to ask.... what is up with my /etc/resolv.conf containing just the loopback??? however looking up hosts, using the internet etc. works fine??? [18:39] * delt confuzzled.... :3 [18:42] !resvolconf [18:43] !resolvconf [18:43] resolvconf is a set of scripts that's used to manage /etc/resolv.conf in 12.04, for more information please see: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/ [18:43] Bah, but that's for cacheing. [18:44] ah got it -- "Anyone whos been using 12.04 over the past month or so may have noticed some pretty significant changes in the way we do DNS resolving in Ubuntu." [18:45] in which context a hook is like a callback function, but instead in form of a script, right? [18:46] (well, usually a script) [18:51] so, in other news... when's the next release with xfce-4.10? :D :D [18:54] xx.10.2012, or grab 4.10 from xubuntu-dev ppa (not officially supported but works well) [18:54] 12.10 will have it. [19:18] :) [19:33] just installed xubuntu and my mouse is really buggy. the entire window manager is unresponsive at times. anyone know how to fix this? === Transfusion is now known as Cesar_Jared === Cesar_Jared is now known as Transfusion [20:07] help, I know how to change the names of file inside a directory with bash commands, for instance, untill the 1st or second - or _, but now I have 33 folders in which I need to get rid of "reinhart mey - ", is there any easier way? [20:07] instead of going dingle dir by single dir... [20:09] martinphone: [20:09] #!/bin/bash [20:09] FILES=/path/to/* [20:09] for f in $FILES [20:09] do echo "Processing $f file..." # take action on each file. $f store current file name cat $f [20:10] a combination of find and rename will do this just fine. [20:16] resizing windows is pretty inconsistent in xubuntu, sometimes the mouse cursor doesnt change. the faq says to use Alt+right-drag, is there any other solution? [20:23] anyone here who could help me find out why my Ubunto graphical user interfaces never gets past an animated load screen (text says "Xubuntu")? Running latest LTS Ubuntu. [20:32] find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sed -i 's/Reinhard Mey - //g', what about that? [20:33] find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sed -i 's/Reinhard Mey - //g' [20:35] no? [20:39] ok [20:39] that's a bit of a bummer. [20:40] [20:43] vjacob, you can try the ubuntuforums and askubuntu while you wait [20:43] ok, smashing. [21:32] nice idea to add url to web irc while installing [21:32] :) [21:32] glad to hear you like it === blackgatocatnegr is now known as blackgatonegro [21:41] xubuntu = brilliant, I love your work guys [21:42] thanks. enjoy! [21:45] it's the mutts nuts [22:01] <[Relic]> is there a built in clipboard for this? not sure where anything is on x [22:02] you can add a clipboard to the panel [22:03] but you probably need to install the xfce4-goodies [22:49] Hello, I'm having trouble installing xubuntu 12.04 on my laptop. It hangs every time just after loading the partitioning tools. Has anyone had any similar problems? [22:51] try installing xubuntu 11.10 then upgrade [22:51] thats the solution official support is giving. === blackgatocatnegr is now known as blackgatonegro [23:22] hi, is it possible to get the list of software packages that are in the installation of xubuntu for example. lamp-server, www-server, ubuntu-desktop at later point [23:22] I forgot to intsall www-server and I'm lacking var/www [23:23] and thanks for the great distribution [23:26] roninn: I believe what you're thinking of is tasksel [23:29] roninn: If you want to get a list of what you currently already have installed: sudo dpkg --get-selections ... to search for something by name or part of name: apt-cache search ... to see if a particular package is installed: apt-cache policy packagename [23:29] yeah tasksel is the piece of software i was looking for [23:33] or maybe it's not a good way to install with tasksel and apt-get and aptitude... [23:35] tasksel is the best way to make sure you have all the pieces and their config files for the PHP,webserver and database [23:36] roninn, check the xubuntu-desktop metapackage [23:36] I have xubuntu-desktop installed [23:36] but I'm missing var www [23:36] so I need lamp and www-server package collections [23:36] !info lamp [23:36] Package lamp does not exist in precise [23:36] !lamp [23:37] LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+) [23:37] tasksel helps [23:37] !find lamp [23:37] Found: lampython [23:37] but I don't know what is the right way to install those server softwares [23:37] roninn, check the link ubottu just said [23:41] thanks