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genii-aroundAh, yes.00:02
genii-aroundpragmaticenigma: If later there is some other incident you wish to report, please feel welcome to join the channel. It would be appreciated if you do not linger in here however.00:05
pragmaticenigmahow does one exit?00:05
Anxi80Hello I was told to come back a couple days later to get myself unquieted from #ubuntu. Here I am!01:23
Anxi80IdleOne, I believe it was your guidance :)01:25
bkerensaAnxi80: Do you remember why you were quieted from the channel and what we will expect of you if we unquiet you?01:29
bkerensaAnxi80: ?01:30
Anxi80yes01:37
bkerensaAnxi80: Could you tell me what we will expect of you so that we can be sure you will be able to comply?01:39
Anxi80No PSA bug declarations in #ubuntu01:44
bkerensaAnxi80: Okay but can you also please take a look at the IRC Guidelines and try to follow them in channels you join?01:45
bkerensa!rules > Anxi8001:45
ubottuAnxi80, please see my private message01:45
bkerensaI'm going to remove your mute now01:45
Anxi80I read the IRC guildelines already and I am aware of my obligations01:46
Anxi80and I will follow them01:47
Anxi80bkerensa, thanks01:49
IdleOneAnxi80: could you please join #ubuntu now and say something to make sure it was done properly01:50
Anxi80I joined and tried to reply to you but it said "cannot send to channel"01:51
IdleOnehmm01:51
IdleOnegimme a sec01:51
IdleOnesay something in there now01:52
Anxi80just did, same result :(01:52
IdleOnestill nothing?01:52
IdleOneerr01:52
Anxi80ikonia is the one who applied it on me so maybe he/she would know?01:53
IdleOnefor some reason it does not seem to be removing the mute, try saying something one more time and if not I'll try poking someone about it01:53
IdleOneok you seem set now.01:54
IdleOnesorry it took so long :)01:54
Anxi80no worries, bkerensa, IdleOne, thanks again01:55
Anxi80Have an excellent evening/weekend01:55
IdleOneThanks same to you01:55
Anxi80oh one last question, could you please direct me to the official channel for requesting cloaks?01:56
IdleOnebkerensa: would be awesome if you could fix that unmute thing in chanserv.py01:56
IdleOneAnxi80: what sort of cloak?01:56
bkerensaIdleOne: I will add it to my to do list :) but for now Angry Orchards are calling01:56
Anxi80the cloak that hides my ip and isp from my whois01:56
IdleOneAnxi80: you can request an unaffiliated cloak in #freenode01:57
Anxi80perfect, thanks01:57
bazhangis cracking wifi on topic?02:39
bazhangre: sven99902:39
IdleOneumm, not really no.02:41
IdleOneit is one of those on the line sorta things i guess02:42
bazhangaircrack is not in the repos, he's on BT: problem solved02:44
IdleOneyup02:45
angel56Hi guyd, I just registered my nick and want to join ubuntu, but it says I am banned06:13
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from croz)06:32
oCeansuborbital (~dev@unaffiliated/tls) has joined #ubuntu08:01
oCeanthere must be an active ban?08:01
suborbitaluncalled for08:02
oCeanwhy08:02
suborbitalyou tell me08:02
suborbitaluubuntu doesnt need another admin ?08:03
suborbitalis that it ?08:04
oCeanadmin?08:04
LjLsuborbital: you were banned. you evaded your ban. ban evasion is not acceptable, so you were banned again.08:04
LjLand i'm ignoring the things you said while joined08:04
suborbitalwhy was i banned in the first place ?08:04
suborbitalfun=chs08:04
suborbitalim not trying to evade either08:04
suborbitali lied the last time08:05
suborbitali didnt evaDE08:05
suborbitali wasnt even banned08:05
suborbitalcheck you logs08:06
suborbitali 8told* you i did08:06
suborbitalyou ccant join achannel you are banned form afaik08:07
LjLsuborbital: unless you join with a different hostmask.08:07
suborbitaluhh08:07
suborbitalthat was well b408:07
suborbitalcheck the logs08:08
oCeanlots of proof in the logs that show you getting muted, removed, banned, banevaded, never showed any intention to resolve, left, banevaded again etc.08:08
suborbitalw/e fuchs08:08
oCeanthis incident will be reported to freenode staff, and that is the end of this discussion08:08
oCean!appeals > suborbital08:08
ubottusuborbital, please see my private message08:08
suborbitalw/e agenda you have opk08:08
oCeansuborbital: please /part this channel since at this point there is nothing to discuss08:12
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suborbitalyea i disagree09:15
suborbitalyou people know you have some bad seeds09:16
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ubottuIn #ubuntu+1, nperry said: !schedule is A schedule of Quantal Quetzal (12.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule14:06
ubottuIn #ubuntu+1, nperry said: !schedule is <reply>  A schedule of Quantal Quetzal (12.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule14:08
ubottuIn #ubuntu+1, nperry said: !forget schedule14:10
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bazhang<joint> microsoft is behind suse. they are trying to infultrate linux15:17
bazhanghe gets really tiring in -ot15:17
vibhavHas anybody any idea why has ubottu ignored me in #ubuntu-offtopic15:45
vibhav?15:45
ikoniayes, because you're on ignore from the bot15:46
vibhavWell, I am not ignored in any other channel15:46
ikoniaI believe there was a global one set by me, and an individual one set in offtopic from someone else15:46
vibhavI remember IdleOne trying to unignore me , but he gave up15:46
ikoniaI suspect the one in offtopic is still active15:46
vibhavthen can you try to unignore me?15:47
ikoniano, I'm quite happy with you not doing the bot every 5 seconds in #ubuntu15:47
ikoniaofftopic sorry15:47
ikonia(bit quick on the enter)15:47
vibhavI dont do the bot every 5 seconds15:48
vibhavYou are seriously mistaken15:48
ikoniawell, you do, that's why you got put on ignore15:48
vibhavThat was long ago?15:48
ikoniaprobably15:48
vibhavyes15:48
vibhavBut thats not the case now15:49
ikoniaI disagree15:49
vibhavwhy?15:49
ikoniabecause that's my opinion15:49
ikoniatry talking to people instead of hitting the factoids15:49
vibhavfine15:50
ikoniacool15:50
LjLand now, sweeping statement "PPAs are unstable"19:01
LjLthis PPA thing is going to far19:01
LjLon the one hand we have PPAs promoted by Canonical/Launchpad/whatever19:01
LjLon the other they're the devil in #ubuntu and according to some, you're not even supported if you've touched them in any way19:01
MyrttiLjL: let me find you a bug number19:28
Myrttiah my brain is fried, nevermind19:31
oCeanLjL: I try to suppress my aversion of PPA's, but I find it difficult when others keep recommending any PPA they can think of, claiming it is stable, because "hey, worksforme"19:39
oCeanI don't think the supportersguide helped on that subject19:39
LjLoCean: that's not very okay, but neither is saying that all PPAs are unstable, or informing someone that they won't be helped to restore their system after they *removed* a PPA, in #ubuntu19:40
LjL[21:12:55] <LjL> i've always thought that ppas being "unsupported" was a dangerous move for us to take19:40
LjL[21:13:11] <LjL> it *should* mean that once you've installed a PPA package, we can't help you with that particular package's operation19:40
LjL[21:13:28] <LjL> it *shouldn't* mean we can't tell you how to install it, how to remove it, or how to fix things if they were broken by it after removing it19:40
oCeanI'm just saying that I think it is a difficult topic. Last week someone recommends "install this PPA", user seems happy, returns after a while "Whatever I try to update, I get E: Broken packages". Same user that recommended PPA says "meh.. change your server by Synaptic to main server then try it again"19:46
ubottuIn ubottu, sinekonata said: great thanks I guess this is no reply though19:47
MyrttiI'm still waiting for Canonical to implement a "Golden seal of approval" badge on the PPA's19:47
Myrtti"this PPA is maintained by the project developers and gets 5 SUPER MUSHROOMS"19:47
oCeanMyrtti: the way wordpress rates plugins and shows compatibility with specific versions is nice19:47
Myrtti"this PPA is maintained by the Ubuntu packagers as a staging area for bleeding edge software, and gets 5 SUPERBALL FLOWERS"19:48
oCeanAlso, I really wonder how we should deal with kernel updates from PPA. Several questions in #u are about "after upgrading to 3.4 I have no sound!"19:49
Myrtti"this PPA is by a kid who just tried how debian packaging works by packaging GNOME-Klondyke over again. This effort has been duplicated in X number of other PPA's, so this PPA gets 1 GOOMBA"19:50
ubottuActionParsnip called the ops in #ubuntu (Pussysale)20:26

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