[00:02] <genii-around> Ah, yes.
[00:05] <genii-around> pragmaticenigma: If later there is some other incident you wish to report, please feel welcome to join the channel. It would be appreciated if you do not linger in here however.
[00:05] <pragmaticenigma> how does one exit?
[01:23] <Anxi80> Hello I was told to come back a couple days later to get myself unquieted from #ubuntu. Here I am!
[01:25] <Anxi80> IdleOne, I believe it was your guidance :)
[01:29] <bkerensa> Anxi80: Do you remember why you were quieted from the channel and what we will expect of you if we unquiet you?
[01:30] <bkerensa> Anxi80: ?
[01:37] <Anxi80> yes
[01:39] <bkerensa> Anxi80: Could you tell me what we will expect of you so that we can be sure you will be able to comply?
[01:44] <Anxi80> No PSA bug declarations in #ubuntu
[01:45] <bkerensa> Anxi80: Okay but can you also please take a look at the IRC Guidelines and try to follow them in channels you join?
[01:45] <bkerensa> !rules > Anxi80
[01:45] <bkerensa> I'm going to remove your mute now
[01:46] <Anxi80> I read the IRC guildelines already and I am aware of my obligations
[01:47] <Anxi80> and I will follow them
[01:49] <Anxi80> bkerensa, thanks
[01:50] <IdleOne> Anxi80: could you please join #ubuntu now and say something to make sure it was done properly
[01:51] <Anxi80> I joined and tried to reply to you but it said "cannot send to channel"
[01:51] <IdleOne> hmm
[01:51] <IdleOne> gimme a sec
[01:52] <IdleOne> say something in there now
[01:52] <Anxi80> just did, same result :(
[01:52] <IdleOne> still nothing?
[01:52] <IdleOne> err
[01:53] <Anxi80> ikonia is the one who applied it on me so maybe he/she would know?
[01:53] <IdleOne> for some reason it does not seem to be removing the mute, try saying something one more time and if not I'll try poking someone about it
[01:54] <IdleOne> ok you seem set now.
[01:54] <IdleOne> sorry it took so long :)
[01:55] <Anxi80> no worries, bkerensa, IdleOne, thanks again
[01:55] <Anxi80> Have an excellent evening/weekend
[01:55] <IdleOne> Thanks same to you
[01:56] <Anxi80> oh one last question, could you please direct me to the official channel for requesting cloaks?
[01:56] <IdleOne> bkerensa: would be awesome if you could fix that unmute thing in chanserv.py
[01:56] <IdleOne> Anxi80: what sort of cloak?
[01:56] <bkerensa> IdleOne: I will add it to my to do list :) but for now Angry Orchards are calling
[01:56] <Anxi80> the cloak that hides my ip and isp from my whois
[01:57] <IdleOne> Anxi80: you can request an unaffiliated cloak in #freenode
[01:57] <Anxi80> perfect, thanks
[02:39] <bazhang> is cracking wifi on topic?
[02:39] <bazhang> re: sven999
[02:41] <IdleOne> umm, not really no.
[02:42] <IdleOne> it is one of those on the line sorta things i guess
[02:44] <bazhang> aircrack is not in the repos, he's on BT: problem solved
[02:45] <IdleOne> yup
[06:13] <angel56> Hi guyd, I just registered my nick and want to join ubuntu, but it says I am banned
[08:01] <oCean> suborbital (~dev@unaffiliated/tls) has joined #ubuntu
[08:01] <oCean> there must be an active ban?
[08:02] <suborbital> uncalled for
[08:02] <oCean> why
[08:02] <suborbital> you tell me
[08:03] <suborbital> uubuntu doesnt need another admin ?
[08:04] <suborbital> is that it ?
[08:04] <oCean> admin?
[08:04] <LjL> suborbital: you were banned. you evaded your ban. ban evasion is not acceptable, so you were banned again.
[08:04] <LjL> and i'm ignoring the things you said while joined
[08:04] <suborbital> why was i banned in the first place ?
[08:04] <suborbital> fun=chs
[08:04] <suborbital> im not trying to evade either
[08:05] <suborbital> i lied the last time
[08:05] <suborbital> i didnt evaDE
[08:05] <suborbital> i wasnt even banned
[08:06] <suborbital> check you logs
[08:06] <suborbital> i 8told* you i did
[08:07] <suborbital> you ccant join achannel you are banned form afaik
[08:07] <LjL> suborbital: unless you join with a different hostmask.
[08:07] <suborbital> uhh
[08:07] <suborbital> that was well b4
[08:08] <suborbital> check the logs
[08:08] <oCean> lots of proof in the logs that show you getting muted, removed, banned, banevaded, never showed any intention to resolve, left, banevaded again etc.
[08:08] <suborbital> w/e fuchs
[08:08] <oCean> this incident will be reported to freenode staff, and that is the end of this discussion
[08:08] <oCean> !appeals > suborbital
[08:08] <suborbital> w/e agenda you have opk
[08:12] <oCean> suborbital: please /part this channel since at this point there is nothing to discuss
[09:15] <suborbital> yea i disagree
[09:16] <suborbital> you people know you have some bad seeds
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[15:17] <bazhang> he gets really tiring in -ot
[15:45] <vibhav> Has anybody any idea why has ubottu ignored me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:45] <vibhav> ?
[15:46] <ikonia> yes, because you're on ignore from the bot
[15:46] <vibhav> Well, I am not ignored in any other channel
[15:46] <ikonia> I believe there was a global one set by me, and an individual one set in offtopic from someone else
[15:46] <vibhav> I remember IdleOne trying to unignore me , but he gave up
[15:46] <ikonia> I suspect the one in offtopic is still active
[15:47] <vibhav> then can you try to unignore me?
[15:47] <ikonia> no, I'm quite happy with you not doing the bot every 5 seconds in #ubuntu
[15:47] <ikonia> offtopic sorry
[15:47] <ikonia> (bit quick on the enter)
[15:48] <vibhav> I dont do the bot every 5 seconds
[15:48] <vibhav> You are seriously mistaken
[15:48] <ikonia> well, you do, that's why you got put on ignore
[15:48] <vibhav> That was long ago?
[15:48] <ikonia> probably
[15:48] <vibhav> yes
[15:49] <vibhav> But thats not the case now
[15:49] <ikonia> I disagree
[15:49] <vibhav> why?
[15:49] <ikonia> because that's my opinion
[15:49] <ikonia> try talking to people instead of hitting the factoids
[15:50] <vibhav> fine
[15:50] <ikonia> cool
[19:01] <LjL> and now, sweeping statement "PPAs are unstable"
[19:01] <LjL> this PPA thing is going to far
[19:01] <LjL> on the one hand we have PPAs promoted by Canonical/Launchpad/whatever
[19:01] <LjL> on the other they're the devil in #ubuntu and according to some, you're not even supported if you've touched them in any way
[19:28] <Myrtti> LjL: let me find you a bug number
[19:31] <Myrtti> ah my brain is fried, nevermind
[19:39] <oCean> LjL: I try to suppress my aversion of PPA's, but I find it difficult when others keep recommending any PPA they can think of, claiming it is stable, because "hey, worksforme"
[19:39] <oCean> I don't think the supportersguide helped on that subject
[19:40] <LjL> oCean: that's not very okay, but neither is saying that all PPAs are unstable, or informing someone that they won't be helped to restore their system after they *removed* a PPA, in #ubuntu
[19:40] <LjL> [21:12:55] <LjL> i've always thought that ppas being "unsupported" was a dangerous move for us to take
[19:40] <LjL> [21:13:11] <LjL> it *should* mean that once you've installed a PPA package, we can't help you with that particular package's operation
[19:40] <LjL> [21:13:28] <LjL> it *shouldn't* mean we can't tell you how to install it, how to remove it, or how to fix things if they were broken by it after removing it
[19:46] <oCean> I'm just saying that I think it is a difficult topic. Last week someone recommends "install this PPA", user seems happy, returns after a while "Whatever I try to update, I get E: Broken packages". Same user that recommended PPA says "meh.. change your server by Synaptic to main server then try it again"
[19:47] <Myrtti> I'm still waiting for Canonical to implement a "Golden seal of approval" badge on the PPA's
[19:47] <Myrtti> "this PPA is maintained by the project developers and gets 5 SUPER MUSHROOMS"
[19:47] <oCean> Myrtti: the way wordpress rates plugins and shows compatibility with specific versions is nice
[19:48] <Myrtti> "this PPA is maintained by the Ubuntu packagers as a staging area for bleeding edge software, and gets 5 SUPERBALL FLOWERS"
[19:49] <oCean> Also, I really wonder how we should deal with kernel updates from PPA. Several questions in #u are about "after upgrading to 3.4 I have no sound!"
[19:50] <Myrtti> "this PPA is by a kid who just tried how debian packaging works by packaging GNOME-Klondyke over again. This effort has been duplicated in X number of other PPA's, so this PPA gets 1 GOOMBA"