| jacobw | bad webpigeon | 06:34 |
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| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: Gnome 15? | 06:41 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: I thought it was only up to 3.x | 06:42 |
| MartijnVdS | Or are they using Chrome-style versions now | 06:42 |
| jacobw | if DEVELOPER_BORED { version++; } | 06:48 |
| jacobw | the german keyboard layout is a little unfriendly | 06:48 |
| jacobw | why is the / shift+7 and @ alt-gr+q ?! | 06:49 |
| MartijnVdS | jacobw: You can just set the layout to something you like more :) | 06:50 |
| MartijnVdS | jacobw: the pictures on the keys don't matter | 06:50 |
| jacobw | i'm making an effort to learn the german keyboard layout | 06:51 |
| MartijnVdS | DAS DEUTSCHE LAYOUT | 06:51 |
| jacobw | my keyboard is has a UK layout, i've purposefully changed it | 06:51 |
| jacobw | here's another thing, { is alt-gr+7 and } is alt-gr+0 | 06:55 |
| dwatkins | The German kezboard lazout is easz to learn... | 06:55 |
| jacobw | not even consequetive keys! | 06:55 |
| jacobw | at least the € is alt-gr+e which actually makes sense | 07:01 |
| MartijnVdS | also AltGr+5 I think? | 07:10 |
| jacobw | ½ | 07:20 |
| jacobw | alt-gr+4 on gb | 07:21 |
| * MartijnVdS uses US-Intl-Nodeadkeys | 07:24 | |
| MartijnVdS | Most keyboards in NL have US layout instead of NL layout | 07:24 |
| jacobw | being in vim and not being able to find ':' is the most distressing ting | 07:26 |
| MartijnVdS | at least ESC is in the same palce | 07:27 |
| jacobw | when i tried to learn dvorak, the vim problem sapped my motivation | 07:27 |
| czajkowski | https://tbe.taleo.net/NA3/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=CANONICAL&cws=1&rid=502 if anyone is job hunting we have 4 soft eng roles open on my team | 07:41 |
| dwatkins | We have 4 support roles if anyone in Edinburgh is looking for a technical role. | 07:48 |
| MooDoo | hello all | 07:58 |
| jacobw | hey MonsterKiller | 08:00 |
| jacobw | MooDoo even | 08:01 |
| MooDoo | lol | 08:01 |
| AlanBell | morning all | 08:02 |
| AlanBell | Wolverhampton on the telly | 08:02 |
| popey | morning | 08:03 |
| czajkowski | herro | 08:04 |
| MooDoo | AlanBell: olympic flame? | 08:08 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 08:10 |
| MooDoo | brobostigon: morning | 08:10 |
| brobostigon | morning MooDoo | 08:10 |
| MooDoo | another fab day of stuff in nottingham and i'm at work lol | 08:12 |
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| brobostigon | :( | 08:12 |
| AlanBell | MooDoo: yeah Blue Peter live event and flame | 08:13 |
| jacobw | ah, flame | 08:14 |
| MooDoo | AlanBell: yeah saw it yesterday in Bakewell | 08:15 |
| * brobostigon has his own flame, he waves his lighter in the air. | 08:16 | |
| MooDoo | what's everyone doing this weekend? Anything exiting? | 09:13 |
| brobostigon | no plan as of yet. | 09:13 |
| MartijnVdS | Replacing a Win 98 machine for moneys :) | 09:15 |
| MartijnVdS | We've guesstimated (based on the CPU) that the machine is really 14 years old | 09:17 |
| popey | quiet day today | 10:47 |
| Seeker` | ssssshhhhhhhhhh | 10:47 |
| Seeker` | how are you? | 10:48 |
| popey | fine thanks :) | 10:48 |
| MooDoo | it's just started raining up here :S | 10:50 |
| popey | bigcalm, happy birthday ! :D | 11:40 |
| mattt | HAAAAAAI | 12:27 |
| christel | happy bigcalm day! | 12:47 |
| Joeboy | Hi. Anybody here able to help me with a packaging proglem? Trying to rebuild gdb-msp430 and (I think) it's failing at patching the source. See | 13:14 |
| Joeboy | http://pastebin.com/c6FjSFrm | 13:14 |
| ali1234 | why you use debuild? | 13:15 |
| Joeboy | Is that not right? | 13:15 |
| ali1234 | use fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage | 13:15 |
| ali1234 | this never failed for me | 13:15 |
| Joeboy | Because I don't really know what I'm doing :-) | 13:15 |
| ali1234 | not the first time anyway | 13:15 |
| ali1234 | sometimes packages are broken and will only build once, then you have to delete the source to build it again | 13:15 |
| Joeboy | Yeah, just doing that | 13:16 |
| ali1234 | if you find a package like that do report it as a bug | 13:16 |
| ali1234 | it probably won't get fixed, but it is still a bug | 13:16 |
| Joeboy | I'm bit unconfident about reporting build bugs as I suspect they'll mostly be pebcak errors, until I know what I'm doing a bit better | 13:16 |
| Joeboy | ali1234: That gives me exactly the same error as in the paste ^ | 13:17 |
| ali1234 | ok, is it the second build? | 13:18 |
| Joeboy | Well, not exaclty, but very similar | 13:18 |
| ali1234 | dpkg-buildpackage: warning: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting. | 13:18 |
| Joeboy | aha | 13:18 |
| ali1234 | dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: gdb-source (>= 7.2) | 13:18 |
| Joeboy | sorry, I suck | 13:18 |
| ali1234 | sudo apt-get build-dep | 13:18 |
| ali1234 | oh wait you did that | 13:20 |
| Joeboy | Yeah, I did | 13:20 |
| Joeboy | Just did it again, gratuitously, and unsurprisingly it didn't help | 13:21 |
| ali1234 | ok lemme try to build this | 13:21 |
| Joeboy | Thanks | 13:22 |
| Joeboy | Just to warn you... if I manage to build it at all I'm going to be trying to patch it next | 13:22 |
| directhex | ali1234 is correct, the "clean" rule should always return a source tree to pristine state | 13:22 |
| directhex | often won't but should | 13:22 |
| Joeboy | For the moment I'm just going to go with rm -rf | 13:22 |
| Joeboy | cos I trust it | 13:23 |
| Joeboy | I'm running 12.04, btw | 13:24 |
| ali1234 | ok it failed here | 13:24 |
| Joeboy | w00t | 13:24 |
| ali1234 | same error, patches fail to apply | 13:24 |
| Joeboy | Is that a but I could legitimately report then? | 13:24 |
| ali1234 | yes | 13:25 |
| Joeboy | s/but/bug/ | 13:25 |
| Joeboy | Cool | 13:25 |
| Joeboy | Thanks | 13:25 |
| Joeboy | Glad it's not just me :-) | 13:25 |
| ali1234 | msp430 is the TI low power chip, right? | 13:25 |
| Joeboy | Yeah | 13:25 |
| Joeboy | There's a popular dev board for it (launchpad) | 13:26 |
| Joeboy | Kinda like an even lower end arduino | 13:26 |
| ali1234 | bug is already reported | 13:26 |
| ali1234 | bug 935098 | 13:26 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 935098 in gdb-msp430 (Ubuntu Precise) "gdb-msp430 version 7.2~mspgcc-7.2-20110612-1ubuntu1 FTBFS on i386 in precise" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/935098 | 13:27 |
| Joeboy | Thanks | 13:27 |
| ali1234 | FTBFS = fail to build from source | 13:27 |
| ali1234 | there's an upstream fix | 13:28 |
| Joeboy | Does "fix releaased" mean there's a package, or just a commit on github somewhere? | 13:29 |
| ali1234 | in this case it means it's fixed in debian | 13:29 |
| Joeboy | Cool | 13:29 |
| Joeboy | Hi Hornet | 13:29 |
| ali1234 | that likely means it will be fixed in quantal when the newer packages are imported | 13:29 |
| Joeboy | Cool. So, if I wanted to get this working nowish... what would you do if you were me? | 13:30 |
| ali1234 | you need to regenerate those patches | 13:30 |
| ali1234 | actually there is only 1 patch | 13:31 |
| Joeboy | Thanks for all your help ali1234 | 13:34 |
| ali1234 | ok | 13:35 |
| ali1234 | this should fix it | 13:35 |
| ali1234 | edit gdb/sim/configure | 13:35 |
| ali1234 | search for "microblaze" | 13:36 |
| Joeboy | ...add msp430 ? | 13:37 |
| ali1234 | no | 13:37 |
| Joeboy | k | 13:37 |
| ali1234 | delete the line that says r178 | 13:37 |
| Joeboy | k | 13:37 |
| ali1234 | the patch will add msp430 but the patch expects that r178 line to not be there | 13:38 |
| ali1234 | so it fails | 13:38 |
| ali1234 | you could also do the reverse and add r178 to the patch but editing patches is harder | 13:38 |
| Joeboy | It still fails after doing that | 13:39 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 13:39 |
| ali1234 | is it unpacking something? | 13:39 |
| ali1234 | it must be runing autotools to generate configure before patching | 13:40 |
| Joeboy | There's a tar xjf /usr/src/gdb*.tar.bz2 in the output | 13:40 |
| ali1234 | so there is | 13:41 |
| ali1234 | ok, let's fix the patch, that can't fail | 13:41 |
| Laney | ag | 13:41 |
| Laney | my glorious sunny day turned rainy | 13:41 |
| Joeboy | Laney: We got tempestuous rain here a while ago, but only for about 10 minutes | 13:42 |
| ali1234 | so open msp430-gdb-7.2-20110103.patch and find the line from configure, with microblaze | 13:42 |
| Joeboy | I'm there | 13:42 |
| Laney | Joeboy: i'm holed up in a coffee shop in shorts + tshirt | 13:43 |
| Laney | with 5 miles to bike home | 13:43 |
| Laney | better stop! | 13:43 |
| ali1234 | after "+msp430" and a line with " r178" (note leading space) | 13:43 |
| ali1234 | now dpkg-source fails because we edited that patch | 13:43 |
| ali1234 | commit that with dpkg-source --commit | 13:45 |
| ali1234 | and it still fails | 13:45 |
| Joeboy | ali1234: This is the most awesome free tech support ever | 13:45 |
| ali1234 | unbelievable it still fails | 13:48 |
| ali1234 | i recommend you just build this stuff manually and do not use the packaging | 13:49 |
| Joeboy | :-) | 13:49 |
| ali1234 | this whole "untar gdb source from /usr/src and then patch it using one giant patch" | 13:50 |
| Joeboy | Thanks again for your efforts | 13:50 |
| ali1234 | it's going to make it unworkable if you try to add more changes | 13:50 |
| ali1234 | you should untar gdb somewhere, initialize it as a git repo, apply the linaro msp430 patch, fix the rejects by hand (easy), and then make whatever changes you need and install it to /usr/local | 13:50 |
| Joeboy | Ok, I just installed the debian package. No obvious ill-effects so far. | 13:54 |
| ali1234 | yeah... you won't be able to patch it though :) | 13:54 |
| ali1234 | not easily anyway | 13:54 |
| Joeboy | It doesn't seem to have the bug the ubuntu package did though | 13:55 |
| Joeboy | so it's all good :-) | 13:55 |
| ggg4444 | can someone help me with my void 11 problem? | 15:01 |
| gord | i think webpigeon* may be having troubles ;) | 17:04 |
| brobostigon | agreed. | 17:04 |
| Prisoftware | hello | 18:35 |
| * penguin42 wonders is anything won't survive tonights leapsecond | 20:20 | |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: "gnome15" rather than gnome version 15 | 20:30 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: http://gnome15.org | 20:30 |
| ball | Is it difficult to have an Ubuntu (in my case Xubuntu) host join a Windows Workgroup? I want to share my printer. | 21:09 |
| directhex | ball: workgroup? no. | 21:13 |
| ball | directhex: What's the secret incantation? ;-) | 21:13 |
| directhex | ball: install samba, and i think you can set the workgroup name via agui (if not it's a 1-line setting in smb.conf) | 21:15 |
| ball | directhex: Thanks, I have a Samba book at home so I'll grep that when I get home. | 21:16 |
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