[06:34] bad webpigeon [06:41] Azelphur: Gnome 15? [06:42] Azelphur: I thought it was only up to 3.x [06:42] Or are they using Chrome-style versions now [06:48] if DEVELOPER_BORED { version++; } [06:48] the german keyboard layout is a little unfriendly [06:49] why is the / shift+7 and @ alt-gr+q ?! [06:50] jacobw: You can just set the layout to something you like more :) [06:50] jacobw: the pictures on the keys don't matter [06:51] i'm making an effort to learn the german keyboard layout [06:51] DAS DEUTSCHE LAYOUT [06:51] my keyboard is has a UK layout, i've purposefully changed it [06:55] here's another thing, { is alt-gr+7 and } is alt-gr+0 [06:55] The German kezboard lazout is easz to learn... [06:55] not even consequetive keys! [07:01] at least the € is alt-gr+e which actually makes sense [07:10] also AltGr+5 I think? [07:20] ½ [07:21] alt-gr+4 on gb [07:24] * MartijnVdS uses US-Intl-Nodeadkeys [07:24] Most keyboards in NL have US layout instead of NL layout [07:26] being in vim and not being able to find ':' is the most distressing ting [07:27] at least ESC is in the same palce [07:27] when i tried to learn dvorak, the vim problem sapped my motivation [07:41] https://tbe.taleo.net/NA3/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=CANONICAL&cws=1&rid=502 if anyone is job hunting we have 4 soft eng roles open on my team [07:48] We have 4 support roles if anyone in Edinburgh is looking for a technical role. [07:58] hello all [08:00] hey MonsterKiller [08:01] MooDoo even [08:01] lol [08:02] morning all [08:02] Wolverhampton on the telly [08:03] morning [08:04] herro [08:08] AlanBell: olympic flame? [08:10] good morning everyone. [08:10] brobostigon: morning [08:10] morning MooDoo [08:12] another fab day of stuff in nottingham and i'm at work lol === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [08:12] :( [08:13] MooDoo: yeah Blue Peter live event and flame [08:14] ah, flame [08:15] AlanBell: yeah saw it yesterday in Bakewell [08:16] * brobostigon has his own flame, he waves his lighter in the air. [09:13] what's everyone doing this weekend? Anything exiting? [09:13] no plan as of yet. [09:15] Replacing a Win 98 machine for moneys :) [09:17] We've guesstimated (based on the CPU) that the machine is really 14 years old [10:47] quiet day today [10:47] ssssshhhhhhhhhh [10:48] how are you? [10:48] fine thanks :) [10:50] it's just started raining up here :S [11:40] bigcalm, happy birthday ! :D [12:27] HAAAAAAI [12:47] happy bigcalm day! [13:14] Hi. Anybody here able to help me with a packaging proglem? Trying to rebuild gdb-msp430 and (I think) it's failing at patching the source. See [13:14] http://pastebin.com/c6FjSFrm [13:15] why you use debuild? [13:15] Is that not right? [13:15] use fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage [13:15] this never failed for me [13:15] Because I don't really know what I'm doing :-) [13:15] not the first time anyway [13:15] sometimes packages are broken and will only build once, then you have to delete the source to build it again [13:16] Yeah, just doing that [13:16] if you find a package like that do report it as a bug [13:16] it probably won't get fixed, but it is still a bug [13:16] I'm bit unconfident about reporting build bugs as I suspect they'll mostly be pebcak errors, until I know what I'm doing a bit better [13:17] ali1234: That gives me exactly the same error as in the paste ^ [13:18] ok, is it the second build? [13:18] Well, not exaclty, but very similar [13:18] dpkg-buildpackage: warning: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting. [13:18] aha [13:18] dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: gdb-source (>= 7.2) [13:18] sorry, I suck [13:18] sudo apt-get build-dep [13:20] oh wait you did that [13:20] Yeah, I did [13:21] Just did it again, gratuitously, and unsurprisingly it didn't help [13:21] ok lemme try to build this [13:22] Thanks [13:22] Just to warn you... if I manage to build it at all I'm going to be trying to patch it next [13:22] ali1234 is correct, the "clean" rule should always return a source tree to pristine state [13:22] often won't but should [13:22] For the moment I'm just going to go with rm -rf [13:23] cos I trust it [13:24] I'm running 12.04, btw [13:24] ok it failed here [13:24] w00t [13:24] same error, patches fail to apply [13:24] Is that a but I could legitimately report then? [13:25] yes [13:25] s/but/bug/ [13:25] Cool [13:25] Thanks [13:25] Glad it's not just me :-) [13:25] msp430 is the TI low power chip, right? [13:25] Yeah [13:26] There's a popular dev board for it (launchpad) [13:26] Kinda like an even lower end arduino [13:26] bug is already reported [13:26] bug 935098 [13:27] Launchpad bug 935098 in gdb-msp430 (Ubuntu Precise) "gdb-msp430 version 7.2~mspgcc-7.2-20110612-1ubuntu1 FTBFS on i386 in precise" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/935098 [13:27] Thanks [13:27] FTBFS = fail to build from source [13:28] there's an upstream fix [13:29] Does "fix releaased" mean there's a package, or just a commit on github somewhere? [13:29] in this case it means it's fixed in debian [13:29] Cool [13:29] Hi Hornet [13:29] that likely means it will be fixed in quantal when the newer packages are imported [13:30] Cool. So, if I wanted to get this working nowish... what would you do if you were me? [13:30] you need to regenerate those patches [13:31] actually there is only 1 patch [13:34] Thanks for all your help ali1234 [13:35] ok [13:35] this should fix it [13:35] edit gdb/sim/configure [13:36] search for "microblaze" [13:37] ...add msp430 ? [13:37] no [13:37] k [13:37] delete the line that says r178 [13:37] k [13:38] the patch will add msp430 but the patch expects that r178 line to not be there [13:38] so it fails [13:38] you could also do the reverse and add r178 to the patch but editing patches is harder [13:39] It still fails after doing that [13:39] yeah [13:39] is it unpacking something? [13:40] it must be runing autotools to generate configure before patching [13:40] There's a tar xjf /usr/src/gdb*.tar.bz2 in the output [13:41] so there is [13:41] ok, let's fix the patch, that can't fail [13:41] ag [13:41] my glorious sunny day turned rainy [13:42] Laney: We got tempestuous rain here a while ago, but only for about 10 minutes [13:42] so open msp430-gdb-7.2-20110103.patch and find the line from configure, with microblaze [13:42] I'm there [13:43] Joeboy: i'm holed up in a coffee shop in shorts + tshirt [13:43] with 5 miles to bike home [13:43] better stop! [13:43] after "+msp430" and a line with " r178" (note leading space) [13:43] now dpkg-source fails because we edited that patch [13:45] commit that with dpkg-source --commit [13:45] and it still fails [13:45] ali1234: This is the most awesome free tech support ever [13:48] unbelievable it still fails [13:49] i recommend you just build this stuff manually and do not use the packaging [13:49] :-) [13:50] this whole "untar gdb source from /usr/src and then patch it using one giant patch" [13:50] Thanks again for your efforts [13:50] it's going to make it unworkable if you try to add more changes [13:50] you should untar gdb somewhere, initialize it as a git repo, apply the linaro msp430 patch, fix the rejects by hand (easy), and then make whatever changes you need and install it to /usr/local [13:54] Ok, I just installed the debian package. No obvious ill-effects so far. [13:54] yeah... you won't be able to patch it though :) [13:54] not easily anyway [13:55] It doesn't seem to have the bug the ubuntu package did though [13:55] so it's all good :-) [15:01] can someone help me with my void 11 problem? [17:04] i think webpigeon* may be having troubles ;) [17:04] agreed. [18:35] hello [20:20] * penguin42 wonders is anything won't survive tonights leapsecond [20:30] MartijnVdS: "gnome15" rather than gnome version 15 [20:30] MartijnVdS: http://gnome15.org [21:09] Is it difficult to have an Ubuntu (in my case Xubuntu) host join a Windows Workgroup? I want to share my printer. [21:13] ball: workgroup? no. [21:13] directhex: What's the secret incantation? ;-) [21:15] ball: install samba, and i think you can set the workgroup name via agui (if not it's a 1-line setting in smb.conf) [21:16] directhex: Thanks, I have a Samba book at home so I'll grep that when I get home. === Guest13419 is now known as issyl0 === issyl0 is now known as Guest94286 === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away