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Kilosgood morning all06:00
Kilosyo NeVeR_ 06:22
NeVeR_yo yo06:26
NeVeR_:)06:26
NeVeR_I couldin't connect to freenode from home this morning either. not sure why, so I deleted all the servers and readded just 6667, now it works06:31
Kiloswow06:31
Kiloscrazy kinda bug that06:32
NeVeR_yea dunno wtf.. never had crap like that before :|06:34
NeVeR_that was on quassel.. haven't tried mirc or xchat.. deleted them yesterday06:34
Kiloslol someone hacked you06:34
Kilosdont forget to clear the .xchat in your home as well before reinstalling06:35
Kilosdunno if thats a conf file or what06:35
Kilos.xchat206:36
Kilosxchat is so much better than coming here with chat.freenode.net hey06:38
NeVeR_nah I like quassel more06:50
Kiloslol are you on kubuntu? NeVeR_ 06:51
NeVeR_on windows at the moment.. doing some work. I dont use kubuntu.. only ubuntu server06:53
Kilosah06:53
NeVeR_when I move to CPT i think i'll have more spare time06:53
NeVeR_then ill try kubuntu06:54
Kiloslol the fly and them dont seem to have any spare time06:54
Kiloshiya superfly 06:54
NeVeR_ill have more spare time coos I wont have my manager at my desk 24/7 and giving me 6 hours work 5 minutes before Im supposed to leave the office06:58
Kiloslol06:59
NeVeR_account managers are a pain07:01
Kilosit seems to be a prob with most peeps as soon as they are given rank. ride the guy under you and make his life as miserable as possible and use his ideas to make yourself look good07:02
NeVeR_no i dont take shit from anyone. i make his life hell too. i refuse to speak to clients. i make him run around alloy :P07:03
Kiloslol07:03
NeVeR_allot*07:03
NeVeR_its just im the only guy who can do most of the work :(07:04
Kilosif only peeps would realise that working together achives so much more07:04
NeVeR_I send him on wild goose chases because thats what he's there for... also if I didnt, I wouldn't ever get any work done07:05
Kilosha ha ha07:05
NeVeR_gotta go service my car :( be back in a few hours..07:06
Kilosk07:07
superflyhi Kilos07:08
* superfly heads out to the shops07:08
superflybaby shopping day07:08
Kilosenjoy07:09
ludozaHi Guys, I have a Iphone 4s, I want to sync(get music on the iphone), with RythmBox, on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, I also tried to google for a answer?10:04
ludozaEk het ook die boonste vraag in #ubuntu gevra10:04
zerefludoza: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone10:23
kodezgreetings everyone10:47
charlmorning all10:57
charlafternoon actually10:58
Kiloshi kodechar11:06
Kilosgrrrr11:06
Kiloshi charl 11:06
charlhi Kilos 11:06
charlyeah i know the feeling lol11:06
Kiloslol11:08
charlhi smile4ever 11:19
charlat a linux user group meeting so sorry if i am slow to respond11:20
smile4everhi charl :p11:20
Kiloshi smile4ever 11:43
smile4everKilos: hi! :D11:44
smile4everyou like alison moyet, Kilos ? :p11:44
Kilos?11:44
smile4everKilos: it's a singer :)11:45
Kilosdont know her11:45
Kiloshavent heard her i think11:45
smile4everwell, should listen to "this house" song :p11:46
smile4everhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy5aAQktE6811:46
Kiloshow big is it data wise11:47
Kilosi dont go youtube it eats data  and doesnt work half the time11:47
Kilosvideos chew data11:47
smile4everKilos: hm :p11:51
smile4everi don't know :p11:51
smile4everI don't have to worry about it :)11:51
Kiloslucky hey?11:52
smile4everyes. wanna have some bandwidth? :)11:53
Kilossend11:53
smile4everyou will need bandwidth for that :|11:55
Kilosi cant waste bandwidth on music videos11:56
smile4everwell yeah, I understand12:06
charlsmile4ever: the internet in south africa is extremely bad and expensive12:16
smile4evercharl: i know :s12:16
charlsmile4ever: we have to pay about 60 euro or so a month or 1mbps for my mom12:16
tumbleweednot actually that bad12:16
tumbleweedbut yes, expensive12:16
charltumbleweed: bad too12:16
charlterrible actually12:16
smile4evercharl: well I have about 8 mpbs (1MB/s) for 40 euro (400R)12:16
charlunless if you work at a university and you are on tenet or go and pay an absurd amount of money12:16
charlcharl: i have 50mbps for 30 euro12:17
charlsmile4ever i mean12:17
charlreplied on myself lol12:17
smile4everlol. :p12:17
tumbleweedcharl: totally unscientefically, my south african 10Mbps DSL feels better than many UK friends' 24Mbps DSL, when I visit them12:17
smile4evercharl: that's sad, you may less :|12:17
smile4ever* pay12:17
tumbleweedthe latency between us and US is pretty bad12:18
smile4everbut my internet is very stable :D12:18
tumbleweedbut ZA ISPs have been getting a lot better. There's less shaping and less http-interception than there was before12:18
charltumbleweed: it's because all the traffic gets routed to europe first12:18
charlthen still has to go across the ocean to the usa12:18
tumbleweedcharl: well, yes. We are quite far from the US12:18
charltumbleweed: well before it was horrific so if it's better it's now just terrible :)12:19
tumbleweedalso, we have no censorship12:19
charlwell i would hope so :P12:19
tumbleweedUK ISPs tend to block the pirate bay, these days12:19
charlotherwise .za is going back into apartheid12:19
smile4evercharl: :(12:20
tumbleweedfor me, the latency is the biggest issue. And there's nothing that can be done about that, except to use protocols that are less latency-sensitive12:20
charlsmile4ever: for background, in apartheid there was limited media freedom12:20
charltumbleweed: latency-wise south africa isn't too bad, kenya is much worse even though the bandwidth is better12:20
tumbleweed(and websites like twitter.com that take >30s to load)12:20
charlit's because they route all their traffic via india12:20
smile4evercharl: oh, really? :|12:20
charlso if you ping the usa you get > 1000 ms12:20
tumbleweedcharl: yeah, remember when ZA latency to US was routinely > 500ms12:21
tumbleweedand when lots of outgoing traffic used to go over SAFE, returinng via SAT-3. Which seriously messed with geoDNS12:21
smile4ever26.8ms for google.be :DD12:21
charltumbleweed: if you go to the west coast, that might still be the case12:21
charltumbleweed: but part of the patency issue was that a lot of traffic was being routed via satellite12:21
charlnow with the new underseas cables, that improved obviously12:22
* tumbleweed was never on cheap ISPs that did that12:22
charl"cheap" is hardly the term i would use12:22
tumbleweed:)12:22
smile4evercharl: what's your time for google.be? :)12:22
charl"less inaffordable" perhaps12:22
tumbleweedvaguley affordable? :)12:22
smile4everping -c 1 www.google.be12:22
tumbleweedgoogle.be resolves to a local google site for me, so 6ms12:23
charltumbleweed: yeah something like that12:23
charlsmile4ever: i get 27.4ms to google.be12:23
charlbut i'm on crappy wifi atm12:24
smile4evercharl: that's not much.. :)12:24
charlsmile4ever: lemme ping from my work machine... 1sec12:24
tumbleweedsmile4ever: well, it's not actually belgium12:25
tumbleweedbelgium would be more like 200ms12:25
tumbleweed(> 200ms)12:25
smile4evertumbleweed: where is google.be located then? :)12:25
charlsmile4ever: 7ms consistently12:25
charlfrom work12:25
smile4everok :o12:25
tumbleweedsmile4ever: it resolves to cpt01s01-in-f23.1e100.net for me12:25
charlyeah the cape town mirror12:25
smile4everoh :)12:25
charlfor me it resolves to wi-in-f94.1e100.net12:26
tumbleweedso, probably not even leaving cape town12:26
smile4ever177 ms to cpt01s01-in-f23.1e100.net :)12:26
charli get about the same, just over 180ms12:26
smile4everand you are in the SA o.O12:33
charlhave any of you people been playing with the raspberry pi?12:37
charlbeen looking at, unless perhaps you got an early version12:37
* Banlam is still waiting for his to get made12:37
Banlam+-3 weeks till I'm supposed to get it12:38
charlyeah that sounds about right12:38
tumbleweedcharl: got one. Don't intend on doing much playing, just wanted an ARM box for testing the occasional thing12:38
charlthey are going to be shipping the first batches soon right?12:38
tumbleweedthey've been shipping for a couple of months now12:39
Banlamcharl, lost of people have their already12:39
Banlamwell perhaps not lots12:39
Banlambut yeah12:39
charlah ok maybe i haven't been monitoring it properly12:39
charli know some people who ordered theirs12:39
charlthere are a couple of alternatives now as well12:39
charlone of them is gnublin http://www.gnublin.org/12:40
charlthere's also APC which is android-based http://apc.io/12:40
charlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e2jAaovuwk12:40
tumbleweedgnublin has very little RAM12:41
Banlamdo any of the gnublin products have HDMI out?12:41
charldunno only looked at it now for the first time12:41
charlhttp://shop.embedded-projects.net/index.php?module=artikel&action=artikel&id=129612:41
charlyeah 8MB RAM but ok for small projects12:41
tumbleweedit's pushing it for linux12:42
charlit's a lot more expensive than the raspberry pi though12:42
charltumbleweed: yeah but i bet it's a really dumbed-down version12:42
tumbleweedhttp://www.solid-run.com/products/cubox12:42
charltumbleweed: nice12:43
Banlamno IO pins though12:43
charlhave any of you tried running kde on a tablet?12:46
charlonly looked at it now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPkYyDiuGyc12:47
charltumbleweed: if you want really crappy internet, you should visit ireland12:51
charltumbleweed: the dsl falls out every hour or two for a couple of minutes and the speed is terrible12:52
charli was only there for 2,5 days and the dsl fell out probably 10 times12:52
tumbleweedcharl: I have, I don't recall it being quite that awful, though :P12:52
charltumbleweed: we were crawling coffee shops because there wasn't even wifi at the hotel12:53
charltumbleweed: everyone seems to have had this "aercom" or whatever it was called12:53
charl8mbps was about the fastest we got12:53
tumbleweedthat's not so bad12:54
charli can recall on the way back i saw in the airplane magazine "get 20 mbps for your business"12:54
charli almost fell off the chair12:54
tumbleweed:)12:54
charli wouldn't even want 20mbps at my house12:55
* tumbleweed is going to debconf in nicaragua next week, which apparently will have 20Mbps backhaul for the conference http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf12/Bids/Managua#Network_connectivity12:55
superflycharl: that's fine, I'll take the 20Mbps12:55
tumbleweedI wonder how that'll work out :P12:55
charlouch!12:56
charlcentral america... hmmm12:56
charlgo outside and enjoy the weather instead :P12:56
charlor the beach12:56
tumbleweedit's the rainy season :)12:56
charl"20 Mbits will cost us 3,000 USD"12:56
tumbleweedbut yeah, will be hot12:57
charlok that sucks12:57
tumbleweeddon't know if that information is still correct, maybe they organised something better12:57
tumbleweedapparently government is partially sponsoring (and letting us bypass customs/passport queues) so maybe...12:57
smile4everbye :)13:10
Kilosbye smile4ever 13:10
charlbye smile4ever 13:10
charlhttp://www.geeksphone.com/ <- ooh!13:19
charlbbl13:49
Kilosevening all15:37
Kilosyo not_found 15:53
not_foundhello uncle Kilos 15:54
Kiloshuntyed but not_found  hehe15:54
Kiloshunted as well15:54
not_found:)15:55
Kilosevening charl 17:18
Kilosinetpro, you here?17:18
KilosMaaz, coffee on17:18
* Maaz washes some mugs17:18
charlhi Kilos 17:18
charlMaaz, coffee please17:18
Maazcharl: Okay17:18
inetproKilos:  . ....17:19
inetproMaaz: coffee please17:19
Maazinetpro: Sure17:19
Kilosnaand boetie17:20
inetprogood evening everyone17:20
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos, charl and inetpro!17:22
charlthanks Maaz 17:22
charlhi inetpro 17:22
charlmy goodness what is this link i just got from my mom http://mg.co.za/article/2012-06-30-anc-introduces-its-new-policy-on-land-reform17:22
KilosMaaz, danke17:22
MaazBitteschön17:22
Kilosyo Kerbero 17:24
Kilosdont forget we have out next meeting on the 6th hey guys17:26
Kilosstill lots of stuff on the agenda we didnt finish last time17:26
* Kilos ^^17:28
Kilosmost of you need at least a week to get your affairs in order17:29
Kilosyo magespawn 17:30
magespawnEvening all17:30
magespawnHey Kilos17:30
Kilosyou just too late17:30
magespawnFor ?17:30
Kilos<Kilos> dont forget we have out next meeting on the 6th hey guys17:30
Kilos<Kilos> still lots of stuff on the agenda we didnt finish last 17:30
Kilos<Kilos> most of you need at least a week to get your affairs in order17:30
magespawnReminders?17:31
Kiloslol i had just posted that when you came on17:31
Kilosall good there in warm land?17:32
magespawnCool. 17:32
magespawnHad a very warm day, today.17:32
* Kilos jealous17:32
magespawngc coffee 17:40
gcmagespawn: coffee is served with pastry17:40
magespawngc coffee on17:41
Kiloshahaha17:41
* gc flips the salt-timer17:41
Kilosmagespawn, did you teach het that?17:41
magespawnYup17:41
Kilosgc coffee please17:41
gcKilos: Righto17:41
Kiloswhat pastry gets served with coffee17:42
magespawnWas trying to get her to serve it with the coffee.17:42
Kiloshahaha17:42
Kilosone cant fiddle with their default settings so easily17:43
magespawnApparently not.17:43
Kilosyou should sometime see where our 2 bots are looking at the wrong place for pretoria weather17:44
magespawnI was trying to do it through the 'teaching' commands.17:44
magespawnWill, when I get a second.17:45
gcCoffee's ready for magespawn and Kilos!17:45
Kilosyou have to godeeper to alter default things17:45
Kilosgc ty17:45
gcIt's a pleasure to serve humans Kilos17:45
magespawngc bot snack17:46
gcmagespawn: thankyou!17:46
Kilosi wouldnt know where they are supposed to find the pretoria or irene weather from anymore17:46
magespawnLots of places, I assume you could set it to any website, or publicly available info.17:48
Kilosthey used to have it right so the weather peeps musta changed something17:50
Kiloshave a good night guys. i go crash now17:55
Kilossee ya morrow17:55
Kilossleep tight17:55
charlwb smile4ever 18:14
smile4everthanks :)18:19
smile4everi worked on the website of my dad18:19
smile4everit's progressing slowly :)18:19
smile4everround corners and stuff like that18:19
smile4ever:p18:19
charlah nice18:21
magespawnCan we have a look?18:24
smile4everbye18:30
charllol18:30
charlbye smile4ever 18:30
smile4evergood night, charl 18:30
smile4evermagespawn: well, later :)18:30
smile4ever;)18:30
smile4everthank you charl 18:30
smile4everin a few days, magespawn :D18:30
magespawnOkay cool, let us know.18:31
magespawnAnd he is gone.18:31
charlhttp://i.imgur.com/QRauh.jpg18:33
Banlamtrollface magnets long arms?18:39
charlyeah cause smile4ever just trolled us, in a strange way :P18:40
Banlamok18:41
magespawnYeah but not in a bad way.18:55
magespawnI am also out of here, battery needs the rest.18:57
stavrosHi all.  Please can someone help me get/buy the CD's for the latest Ubuntu.  Tried to download and internet been dodgy...22:54
Kerberote vinnig weg23:04
Kerberoniemand kan so snel reageer nie23:04
Kerberoveral nie na 1 snags nie23:04
Symmetriasup23:32
Kerberogday23:35
Symmetrialol, Im confused23:35
Kerberoo23:36
Kerberowhy?23:36
Kerbero*g'night23:36
Kerberosorry23:36
Symmetriathis chick... and she is like... the very essence of hot... but I always believed she was outta my league and I didnt have a chance23:36
Symmetriajust asked me out via whatsapp :p23:36
Symmetriasaid I was taking way 2 long to ask her out, so fuck it she was gonna ask me out instead23:36
Kerberohmm23:36
Kerberoi guess she found out how much money you make23:37
Symmetrialol nah dude, she and I had a fling once before23:37
Symmetriabut I always believed it was just a fling, though i really liked this chick23:37
Symmetriadude, she's fucking smoking hot 23:37
Kerberook23:37
Kerberowell, good for you23:37
Symmetrialol, but its just so strange, hot chicks dont ask me out, and especially not via whatsapp :p23:38
Symmetrialol23:38
Kerberowell to tell you the truth i see you more dating a model than your previous GF23:38
Kerberonot that i know what she looked like23:38
Symmetrialol, this chick sent me nekkid pics as well :P 23:39
Kerberowow23:39
Symmetriasee msg :p23:39

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