| _eein | ailo, wow sorry left for a while :-) thanks that seems to work | 00:46 |
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| eein- | ailo, hi | 14:45 |
| eein- | hmmm JACK and PortAudio are not doing what i want, how many in_ are there for PortAudio? I keep having to move the mapping in JACK connections | 14:57 |
| holstein | AFAIK, thats going to depend on your hardware | 14:58 |
| eein- | everytime i press record in Audacity it moves to another in_ | 14:58 |
| holstein | i wouldnt use JACK with audacity | 14:58 |
| holstein | really no need to | 14:59 |
| eein- | well i would like to record multiple tracks from all my 10 inputs on my card | 15:00 |
| holstein | i would use ardour, or qtractor | 15:01 |
| holstein | audacity is not really intended for that, and i would expect "issues" | 15:01 |
| eein- | ok well i guess im not sure what audacity is good for then :-) | 15:03 |
| eein- | i cant record with my card and JACK not running | 15:03 |
| holstein | audacity is more for editing clips.. or recording stereo... to do anything mutitrack with it is arguably inappropriate | 15:04 |
| holstein | i say this as a user who has routinely recorded using all 10 inputs on an interface for years with ardour/JACK | 15:05 |
| eein- | yeah but i cant record just a stereo channel from say my djing with my card | 15:05 |
| holstein | if you can see/use all 10 in's, you can record a stereo track | 15:05 |
| holstein | but, you can do that without JACK | 15:05 |
| eein- | what i think are stereo 1/2 in on my m-audio 1010lt are XLR not RCA | 15:05 |
| holstein | the 1010lt is overkill for that i say | 15:06 |
| eein- | my first pair of RCA are 3/4 then 5/6 7/8 | 15:06 |
| holstein | BUT, you can use JACK and ardour, or some other DAW | 15:06 |
| holstein | audacity with JACK is a pain... used to not even work | 15:06 |
| eein- | yeah i suppose but that seems overkill to record in ardour when all i want is to record a mix tape | 15:07 |
| holstein | i would just use the internal sound card | 15:07 |
| holstein | i argue that JACK is overkill for what you are doing | 15:07 |
| eein- | i disabled that for simplicity with everything else plus that only has a 1/8 input | 15:08 |
| eein- | i agree PA should know how to handle multiple inputs | 15:08 |
| holstein | yup.. the 1/8 will do the trick though | 15:08 |
| holstein | i would prefer the RCA's on the 1010 | 15:08 |
| holstein | and i would try pavucontrol to specifiy that | 15:08 |
| eein- | the fact that PA is the default for just about every distro and it cant do simple stuff like handle a audio card with more than one input is stupid | 15:09 |
| holstein | eh.. i have systems with both alsa only and alsa with pulse | 15:09 |
| holstein | there are upsides to both, and things that are a drag with both | 15:10 |
| eein- | i have, maybe i missed something but i dont see a way to select which input i am recording on, and PA is dumb in that it is trying to make a surround sound card out of my RCA inputs | 15:10 |
| holstein | not to be confrontational, but the code is all open, if its not meeting your needs | 15:10 |
| holstein | have you tried pavucontrol? | 15:10 |
| eein- | my options for pavucontrol on input for port is analog input | 15:12 |
| eein- | nothing else in drop down | 15:12 |
| eein- | and all my profiles are surround sound which is not what this card is for | 15:12 |
| eein- | and i dont see a way to make my own profiles | 15:13 |
| eein- | am i missing something? | 15:14 |
| holstein | maybe.. you should try #opensourcemusicians | 15:16 |
| holstein | i know several folks have that device, and use it routinely for whate you are doing, and more | 15:16 |
| holstein | i heard some work had been done to "improve" support for that device | 15:16 |
| holstein | when im troubleshooting, i try live CD's.. the LTS's and the upcoming ones | 15:17 |
| eein- | thanks, yeah i was using live yesterday i finally just installed today | 15:17 |
| eein- | i thought JACK would work the way i wanted but i hadnt stopped and started audacity enough to see the issue i guess | 15:18 |
| holstein | audacity with JACK will always be subpar | 15:18 |
| holstein | using ardour to do what you are doing will not be that tough though | 15:18 |
| holstein | qtractor is popular too and easy looking, though i dont use it | 15:19 |
| eein- | this happened yesterday on the live boot as well, as soon as i go into pavucontrol JACK server no longer starts | 15:19 |
| holstein | right | 15:19 |
| eein- | is there a way to release PA | 15:19 |
| holstein | the pulse to jack bridge is not going to work like that | 15:19 |
| holstein | i would use either or... | 15:19 |
| holstein | i dont use pulse and JACK.. i would try *only* pulse with pavucontrol... or only JACK.. for troubleshooting purposes if nothing elst | 15:20 |
| holstein | else* | 15:20 |
| len-dt | eein_, Just reading some of the earlier stuff and there is another way that may haelp you | 16:13 |
| len-dt | *help | 16:13 |
| eein_ | whats that | 16:13 |
| len-dt | Looking through the stuff for connecting more than one card together. They make a fake card in alsa that includes both | 16:14 |
| len-dt | I am thinking you could make a fake sound card that show inputs 3/4 as input 1/2 | 16:14 |
| eein_ | yeah i saw some write ups on two 1010lts using a asroundrc | 16:14 |
| len-dt | I was looking at this one: http://www.jrigg.co.uk/linuxaudio/ice1712multi.html | 16:15 |
| eein_ | yeah me too | 16:15 |
| len-dt | But others will show similar. | 16:15 |
| len-dt | instead of calling it "multi_capture" it could be called 1010stereo | 16:17 |
| eein_ | so bindings.0.slave a bindings.0.channel 0 bindings.1.slave a bindings.1.channel 1 would become bindings.2.slave a bindings.2.channel 0 bindings.3.slave a bindings.3.channel 1? | 16:18 |
| len-dt | That was my thought | 16:18 |
| len-dt | I think that pulse may even pick it up as a new card too. | 16:18 |
| len-dt | Because you are only using one card, you may be able to do capture and playback all in one instead of as two | 16:20 |
| eein_ | yeah i think my issue is that input 1&2 are the XLR inputs which i would only use for recording microphones which would not be often | 16:22 |
| eein_ | i have two XLR inputs then 3/4 5/6 7/8 RCA | 16:22 |
| eein_ | then 1/2 3/4 5/6 7/8 RCA outputs | 16:23 |
| len-dt | eein_, So having it look like a second card with inputs 3/4 or 3 to 8 and then selecting the card depending on what you are doing. | 16:23 |
| len-dt | eein_, do you use outputs 1/2 or 3/4? | 16:24 |
| eein_ | the outputs dont matter much | 16:24 |
| eein_ | i can use 1/2 if needed or reverse it so it matches the inputs | 16:24 |
| len-dt | eein_, but you don't want to be switching them one to the other. So make both devices the same. | 16:25 |
| eein_ | len-dt, sorry gotta run an errand be back in a couple hours. ill test it out and see what happens | 16:25 |
| len-dt | eein_, cool, let us know | 16:25 |
| raven | hi | 22:22 |
| Unit193 | raven: Howdy. | 22:32 |
| raven | Unit193 do you know about any eq plugin that is a visual eq? theese plugins with sliders are not very useful to me | 22:44 |
| Unit193 | Plugin for...? | 22:46 |
| raven | ardour for example | 22:46 |
| raven | ladspa | 22:46 |
| len-dt | raven, the LV2 plugins tend to have a more visual IF | 22:47 |
| len-dt | Sorry I am not familiar with the names though. | 22:47 |
| len-dt | I have to search each time I use them :P | 22:47 |
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