[00:46] <_eein> ailo, wow sorry left for a while :-) thanks that seems to work [14:45] ailo, hi [14:57] hmmm JACK and PortAudio are not doing what i want, how many in_ are there for PortAudio? I keep having to move the mapping in JACK connections [14:58] AFAIK, thats going to depend on your hardware [14:58] everytime i press record in Audacity it moves to another in_ [14:58] i wouldnt use JACK with audacity [14:59] really no need to [15:00] well i would like to record multiple tracks from all my 10 inputs on my card [15:01] i would use ardour, or qtractor [15:01] audacity is not really intended for that, and i would expect "issues" [15:03] ok well i guess im not sure what audacity is good for then :-) [15:03] i cant record with my card and JACK not running [15:04] audacity is more for editing clips.. or recording stereo... to do anything mutitrack with it is arguably inappropriate [15:05] i say this as a user who has routinely recorded using all 10 inputs on an interface for years with ardour/JACK [15:05] yeah but i cant record just a stereo channel from say my djing with my card [15:05] if you can see/use all 10 in's, you can record a stereo track [15:05] but, you can do that without JACK [15:05] what i think are stereo 1/2 in on my m-audio 1010lt are XLR not RCA [15:06] the 1010lt is overkill for that i say [15:06] my first pair of RCA are 3/4 then 5/6 7/8 [15:06] BUT, you can use JACK and ardour, or some other DAW [15:06] audacity with JACK is a pain... used to not even work [15:07] yeah i suppose but that seems overkill to record in ardour when all i want is to record a mix tape [15:07] i would just use the internal sound card [15:07] i argue that JACK is overkill for what you are doing [15:08] i disabled that for simplicity with everything else plus that only has a 1/8 input [15:08] i agree PA should know how to handle multiple inputs [15:08] yup.. the 1/8 will do the trick though [15:08] i would prefer the RCA's on the 1010 [15:08] and i would try pavucontrol to specifiy that [15:09] the fact that PA is the default for just about every distro and it cant do simple stuff like handle a audio card with more than one input is stupid [15:09] eh.. i have systems with both alsa only and alsa with pulse [15:10] there are upsides to both, and things that are a drag with both [15:10] i have, maybe i missed something but i dont see a way to select which input i am recording on, and PA is dumb in that it is trying to make a surround sound card out of my RCA inputs [15:10] not to be confrontational, but the code is all open, if its not meeting your needs [15:10] have you tried pavucontrol? [15:12] my options for pavucontrol on input for port is analog input [15:12] nothing else in drop down [15:12] and all my profiles are surround sound which is not what this card is for [15:13] and i dont see a way to make my own profiles [15:14] am i missing something? [15:16] maybe.. you should try #opensourcemusicians [15:16] i know several folks have that device, and use it routinely for whate you are doing, and more [15:16] i heard some work had been done to "improve" support for that device [15:17] when im troubleshooting, i try live CD's.. the LTS's and the upcoming ones [15:17] thanks, yeah i was using live yesterday i finally just installed today [15:18] i thought JACK would work the way i wanted but i hadnt stopped and started audacity enough to see the issue i guess [15:18] audacity with JACK will always be subpar [15:18] using ardour to do what you are doing will not be that tough though [15:19] qtractor is popular too and easy looking, though i dont use it [15:19] this happened yesterday on the live boot as well, as soon as i go into pavucontrol JACK server no longer starts [15:19] right [15:19] is there a way to release PA [15:19] the pulse to jack bridge is not going to work like that [15:19] i would use either or... [15:20] i dont use pulse and JACK.. i would try *only* pulse with pavucontrol... or only JACK.. for troubleshooting purposes if nothing elst [15:20] else* [16:13] eein_, Just reading some of the earlier stuff and there is another way that may haelp you [16:13] *help [16:13] whats that [16:14] Looking through the stuff for connecting more than one card together. They make a fake card in alsa that includes both [16:14] I am thinking you could make a fake sound card that show inputs 3/4 as input 1/2 [16:14] yeah i saw some write ups on two 1010lts using a asroundrc [16:15] I was looking at this one: http://www.jrigg.co.uk/linuxaudio/ice1712multi.html [16:15] yeah me too [16:15] But others will show similar. [16:17] instead of calling it "multi_capture" it could be called 1010stereo [16:18] so bindings.0.slave a bindings.0.channel 0 bindings.1.slave a bindings.1.channel 1 would become bindings.2.slave a bindings.2.channel 0 bindings.3.slave a bindings.3.channel 1? [16:18] That was my thought [16:18] I think that pulse may even pick it up as a new card too. [16:20] Because you are only using one card, you may be able to do capture and playback all in one instead of as two [16:22] yeah i think my issue is that input 1&2 are the XLR inputs which i would only use for recording microphones which would not be often [16:22] i have two XLR inputs then 3/4 5/6 7/8 RCA [16:23] then 1/2 3/4 5/6 7/8 RCA outputs [16:23] eein_, So having it look like a second card with inputs 3/4 or 3 to 8 and then selecting the card depending on what you are doing. [16:24] eein_, do you use outputs 1/2 or 3/4? [16:24] the outputs dont matter much [16:24] i can use 1/2 if needed or reverse it so it matches the inputs [16:25] eein_, but you don't want to be switching them one to the other. So make both devices the same. [16:25] len-dt, sorry gotta run an errand be back in a couple hours. ill test it out and see what happens [16:25] eein_, cool, let us know [22:22] hi [22:32] raven: Howdy. [22:44] Unit193 do you know about any eq plugin that is a visual eq? theese plugins with sliders are not very useful to me [22:46] Plugin for...? [22:46] ardour for example [22:46] ladspa [22:47] raven, the LV2 plugins tend to have a more visual IF [22:47] Sorry I am not familiar with the names though. [22:47] I have to search each time I use them :P