[05:28] <sunshinehappy> nanai swearing and trolling in #ubuntu
[05:29] <chu> Bit surprised bazhang is not around.
[07:48] <LjL> does anyone else think the floodbots are too aggressive?
[07:49] <ikonia> not really, I think they do a pretty solid job
[07:49] <ikonia> enough warnings, mutes, etc
[07:50] <LjL> yeah i think so too, but maybe it's just because i made them :P some users like this one might be put off by the early-ish "don't flood" message.
[07:50] <ikonia> I think they are spot on
[09:48] <LjL> ooooh people are getting on my nerves lately
[09:48] <LjL> !factoid
[09:49] <LjL> !factoid here factoid there
[09:49] <LjL> just because a question has some kind of keyword in it, a factoid is thrown
[09:49] <LjL> a bot could do that
[09:49] <LjL> i've never written one that did (well, not put it in production anyway) because i thought humans could do better than that
[10:07] <chu> But what is the point of the factoids if they're not used!
[10:07] <chu> (I do agree though, some people seem to be very trigger happy with the factoids)
[10:07] <Tm_T> it's used as an easy solution when it might not even be a solution
[10:43] <oCean> kav: openssh = FTP (but SLIGHTLY different)
[10:44] <LjL> yeah, wonderful explanation wasn't it
 i'm utterly clueless about computers but i want to set up a server farm
[10:46] <oCean> :D
[10:47] <oCean> yay for ambition
[10:47] <LjL> (that was not a real quote, by the way)
[10:47] <oCean> Ahh
[10:48] <LjL> maybe i should have a client that just turned his rants into that tl;dr version, though :P
[15:03] <chu> Can we keep him banned? He's been warned, and honestly contributes nothing but dribble.
[15:04] <ikonia> I concur, it's supposed to be a community channel, this sort of thing is just a time wasting exercises.
[15:07] <bazhang> he was at that ranting for quite a while
[15:08] <ikonia> understood
[15:08] <bazhang> ie DarkSim
[15:08] <bazhang> no actual support sought, just how much he hated Canon printers
[15:14] <joint> can any hot girl in here help me with my compoter?
[15:14] <Tm_T> beat me to it
[15:16] <ikonia> he's in #ubuntu now
[15:16] <kav> hello
[15:17] <IdleOne> yes kav
[15:17] <kav> i want to learn service managment
[15:17] <kav> can you help me
[15:17] <IdleOne> this channel is not for support
[15:17] <IdleOne> Why did you join here?
[15:18] <kav> O ! sorry , can you tell me .What this channel for ?
[15:19] <kav> i'm a newbie
[15:19] <chu> "This channel is for operator/abuse questions in the IRC Team domain only"
[15:19] <kav> ok
[15:19] <kav> cya ! happy ubuntu
[15:23] <ikonia> @mark join #ubuntu getting a stream of abuse in pm from join
[15:24] <bazhang> joint1 in #ubuntu now
[15:24] <ikonia> tedious
[15:26] <chu> ikonia: I think his name was "joint" just to be clear for anyone (unlucky enough) to use the name join
[15:26] <ikonia> that was the same IP as his other account in offtopic
[15:26] <ikonia> so it was him
[16:58] <kav> hello !
[16:58] <ikonia> hi kav
[16:58] <bazhang> hi
[16:58] <kav> what place is this ?
[16:58] <bazhang> kav read the topic
[16:59] <kav> can some one guide me
[16:59] <kav> O !
[16:59] <kav> ok ! i have a problem that i want to share with ubuntu
[17:00] <kav> can i gave ?
[17:00] <bazhang> kav this is not a support channel
[17:00] <kav> am i a operator now
[17:00] <kav> ?
[17:01] <bazhang> no
[17:01] <kav> or are  you invite me to chat here ?
[17:01] <bazhang> kav you were removed from #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:02] <kav> hey ! ikonia ...Tell me  , how to make tartufo
[17:02] <kav> O ! but why ?
 i think you are a girl , can you tell me how to make tartufo
[17:02] <kav> can any one answer me .....
[17:02] <bazhang> kav you were asked to stop that type of questioning
[17:03] <bazhang> kav I just did
[17:03] <kav> is that your answer ?
[17:03] <bazhang> this is not the place to get recipes kav
[17:03] <kav> weired answer
[17:03] <bazhang> kav I suggest you exit the channel
[17:03] <kav> but that was a place to talk offtopics
[17:03] <LjL> kav: "offtopic" does not mean, for instance, belittling women
[17:03] <IdleOne> kav: you came here earlier and it was explained to you what this channel was for
[17:04] <bazhang> kav the offtopic channel still has rules
[17:04] <kav> O god !
[17:04] <IdleOne> The "I'm a newbie" excuse is no longer valid.
[17:05] <kav> what can i say ?     i just ask a her did she know recipe
[17:05] <kav> whats' so wrong about it  ?
[17:05] <kav> hey ! LjL ! how are you ?
[17:07] <LjL> kav: it was wrong to insist that "she" was a girl; it was wrong to imply that only a girl could tell you how to make tartufo; but more importantly, the whole thing before that, about "nerdy girls" and their "intelligence", was wrong.
[17:07] <kav> O ! i told her that i stop that topic
[17:07] <kav> ask her , and you can even see the arguments
[17:08] <LjL> and then you proceeded to ask "you are a girl -> tell me how to make tartufo". that was too much.
[17:08] <LjL> please talk to people without making assumptions about their gender, or what their gender is "good for"
[17:08] <kav> O god  ! is that so ...
[17:08] <LjL> you can rejoin #ubuntu-offtopic at this time, but maybe try to observe how others behave a little before intervening yourself.
[17:09] <kav> well, i don't want to go there
[17:09] <kav> its not my fault
[17:09] <bazhang> ok
[17:09] <bazhang> kav just exit this channel then
[17:09] <kav> you can even disconnect from ubuntu also
[17:10] <kav> but i'm not going to say  that i have done something wrong
[17:10] <kav> every people have its own traits of talking
[17:10] <kav> and i have different one
[17:10] <LjL> yes, but sexism is not a trait we tolerate.
[17:11] <kav> what sexism ?   am not ...ok ! just clear your mind
[17:13] <kav> i' m straight forward .... and i'm saying that i'm not sexism... after that if someone says to me that again then i'll not  tolerate that one .
[17:14] <bazhang> kav there's nothing more to discuss. the channel has rules. please follow them if you wish to participate
[17:14] <bazhang> !guidelines | kav read this
[17:14] <bazhang> !coc | kav and this too
[17:17] <kav> hey ! there is nothing written what you say to me
[17:17] <kav> they just say about , not to flood , patience , private msg to bot
[17:18] <LjL> kav: "Please be considerate of everyone and keep all the Ubuntu IRC channels friendly places for everyone." "Some topics are controversial and often end in fighting. Some examples of touchy subjects are war, race, religion, politics, gender, sexuality, drugs, potentially illegal activities and suicide." "Be respectful. The Ubuntu community and its members treat one another with respect. "
[17:18] <bazhang> kav then you did not read carefully
[17:19] <kav> in  which document it written
[17:20] <LjL> the Guidelines and the CoC
[17:20] <kav> in 1st 2 it don't mention
[17:20] <LjL> yes it does
[17:20] <kav> i have searched following keywords "gender"  "female" "male" "woman " "abuse"
[17:21] <LjL> kav: well, i'm sorry your browser is faulty, but i can't help with that. anyway you know now what the deal is
[17:22] <LjL> either rejoin and respect the rules, or if you don't like that, don't rejoin
[17:22] <kav> ok ! i'll with my rules
[17:22] <bazhang> ...
[17:22] <kav> i'll not going to rejoin thatofftopics
[17:23] <IdleOne> good. have a nice day.
[17:23] <kav> i'm here to learn only .
[17:23] <kav> after completing  my knowledge .............. i'll stop using all this ubuntu stuff
[17:24] <LjL> good. if you don't have any more operator-related question, please leave this channel and enjoy your time on IRC.
[17:24] <IdleOne> kav: bazhang and LjL both tried to teach you something here today and you refuse to understand it.If you are unable to understand that human decency and respect are fundamental to Ubuntu and the Ubuntu community you might be better of in some other community
[17:25] <IdleOne> s/of/off/
[17:25] <kav> can you speak in simple language .
[17:25] <kav> i have a problem regarding IRC now
[17:26] <kav> lack of communication between operators and users
[17:26] <kav> can you note it down IdleOne
[17:27] <LjL> noted, but i think we have communicated at length by now
[17:29] <kav> and one more think operators have given more power than users
[17:29] <IdleOne> correct.
[17:29] <kav> Ubuntu  is for humans (You say that )   , if so then we are same according to your coc
[17:30] <kav> then  i have also given  same power as you have
[17:30] <IdleOne> We are the same but not all equal. Some of us understand the Code of conduct and some of us refuse to accept that it is right.
[17:30] <kav> am i right now
[17:30] <bazhang> thats interesting kav, but this is not the place to discuss semantics
[17:31] <LjL> kav: you are given the possibility of obtaining the same power
[17:31] <LjL> !canibeanop
[17:31] <LjL> good luck
[17:31] <kav> we are in abuse question now
[17:31] <kav> wait , where are you going
[17:32] <kav> i have another problem
[17:32] <bazhang> which is?
[17:32] <IdleOne> There is no question, that you are abusing this channel and its purpose. Please leave now.
[17:32] <kav> every person on ubuntu should have that power
[17:32] <bazhang> thats not going to happen
[17:32] <LjL> that's not going to happen any time soon, so you may as well forget it.
[17:32] <kav> but why ? ubuntu is opensource and for humane
[17:33] <LjL> and?
[17:33]  * LjL checks his dictionary... no, "opensource" doesn't mean "everyone has every power", and "for humans" doesn't mean "everyone has every power"
[17:33] <kav> so, we need power as you have
[17:34] <knome> can we stop this madness. no means no, and this is just waste of time, for us all
[17:34] <kav> well, i think you need to again read that dictionary
[17:34] <kav> we want freedom
[17:34] <LjL> kav: knome is right, you're just wasting our time and yours.
[17:34] <bazhang> kav just exit
[17:34] <LjL> kav: if you can respect the rules, rejoin #ubuntu-offtopic, otherwise, don't
[17:34] <LjL> in either case, please leave this channel
[17:35] <kav> if you respect the aim of ubuntu then you have to gave that power to all of us
[17:36] <IdleOne> kav: leave now or I will ban you in all ubuntu channels.
[17:36] <IdleOne> this is not a negotiation or a debate.
[17:36] <kav> Listen ! just banned me then
[17:56] <IdleOne> For the record and log readers. kav has not been banned in all the Ubuntu channels.