[00:00] <thomas__1> Sparky_: what type of help do you need?
[00:00] <escott> matreya6, im not sure what that means. why not just move the partition start
[00:00] <Sparky_> Well, I guess all of it XD I am a complete noob when it comes to OS's.
[00:01] <Sparky_> It was suggested that I try ubuntu on a flash drive, just to test it so I don't lose windows, but I don't know what to do, so they told me to come here :P
[00:02] <thomas__1> the instructions on the dl site are really good, you should start following them and we can walk you through parts you don't get
[00:02] <matreya6> escott, using (gp)arted? Yes, I' ll have to do that. I hope NTLOADR does not get confused, but I' ll know that in a few moments. After all, I use WinXP for games only, my main systems run Linux.
[00:02] <Sparky_> Ok thanks, brb :D
[00:02] <thomas__1> first though, find out if your system is 32 or 64 bit
[00:03] <Sparky_> I believe it is 32... Its just a little dell netbook :P
[00:03] <zykotick9> Sparky_: "uname -m" to find out
[00:03] <escott> matreya6, yeah im not sure how ntloadr will feel about all this
[00:04] <thomas__1> ok, it's good you're on a pc, that's all I know how to use
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> Sparky_: i686 = 32bit   x86_64 = 64bit
[00:04] <Sparky_> Its not a pv, its a laptop lol
[00:04] <Sparky_> pc*
[00:04] <MissVera> I have a question.. I was trying Xubuntu from the Live cd, and i saw that I had 54 GB of free space. I go to install it, and it says "low disk space - this computer has only 0 bytes disk space remaining" in the upper right ??
[00:04] <Sparky_> Dell netbook  = laptop :3
[00:04] <Sparky_> ActionParsnip that makes no sense to me o.o
[00:05] <thomas__1> ha, laptops are pcs too
[00:05] <Eagleman> Will setting iptables rules on eth0 also conflict with eth0.10?
[00:05] <Sparky_> oh -.-
[00:06] <Sparky_> Told you i'm a complete noob XD
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> Sparky_: read the output of:  uname -m   ten read what I said...
[00:06] <Sparky_> uname -m
[00:06] <Sparky_> ?
[00:06] <thomas__1> don't worry about it
[00:06] <Sparky_> What do I do with that -.-
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> Sparky_: press CTRL+ALT+T  and type that, then hit ENTER
[00:06] <thomas__1> i promise you a netbook will run the 32bt version
[00:06] <Sparky_> lol
[00:07] <mz|`_> on windows ? type 'uname -m' ???
[00:07] <Sparky_> Ah.... CTRL+ALT+T = nothing...
[00:07] <Sparky_> What is it supposed to open up?
[00:07] <MissVera> terminal
[00:07] <thomas__1> crt alt t opens terminal, it wont do shit if you're on windows though
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> thomas__1: check the ASUS 1215B-PU17-SL  as one example
[00:08] <Sparky_> lol
[00:08] <Sparky_> Could I just open a command prompt...?
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> thomas__1: not all netbooks are 64bit
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> Sparky_: what do you think CTRL+ALT+T does?
[00:08] <IdleOne> thomas__1: Please keep the language clean
[00:08] <Sparky_> Terminal ^^
[00:08] <Sparky_> I'm on XP
[00:08] <mz|`_> netbook -> just install in 32 bits version
[00:09] <Sparky_> XP home edition ^^
[00:09] <MissVera> Could i get some help?  :x
[00:09] <mz|`_> why bother with 64 bits
[00:09] <Sparky_> Hrm...
[00:09] <Sparky_> I will just take a bargain and choose 32 bit.
[00:09] <mz|`_> especially for a simple test on usb key...
[00:09] <Sparky_> :P
[00:09] <Eagleman> Will setting iptables rules on eth0 also conflict with eth0.10?
[00:09]  * Sparky[A] is now away - Reason : AFK for 30 minutes, beep me a few times if you need me :D
[00:10] <mz|`_> Eagleman: depends on your iptables, but no should not as it is another interface (virtual)
[00:11] <MissVera> I have a question.. I was trying Xubuntu from the Live cd, and i saw that I had 54 GB of free space. I go to install it, and it says "low disk space - this computer has only 0 bytes disk space remaining" in the upper right ??
[00:12]  * Sparky_ is no longer AFK - Gone for 2 minutes 29 seconds
[00:12] <escott> Sparky_, please disable that
[00:12] <Sparky_> Sorry lol
[00:13] <MissVera> No one?
[00:13] <mz|`_> MissVera: screenshots of the two informations please.
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: was the 'free space' unpartitioned?
[00:14] <MissVera> Sorry? I Dont have screen shots. I dont understand why i need them either. I have 54gb free hard drive space. Which, I Know for a fact since i just reformmated.  And then at the beginning of the install, right where im picking the language, it tells me in the upper right, low disk space, mz
[00:14] <Sparky_> Do I just download Ubuntu Desktop?
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> Sparky_: yes, if you want a desktop OS
[00:14] <aristidesfl> My fresh 12.04 doesn't power off nor reboots, it says waiting for all active processes to terminate
[00:15] <Sparky_> well.... does a desktop OS work on a dell laptop? lol
[00:15] <MissVera> Action, if it failed dring an install, could that have left it unpartitioned?
[00:15] <escott> MissVera, i wonder if its the ramdisk is getting full
[00:15] <MissVera> I'm really REALLY new to Ubuntu, so, its a bit confusing.
[00:16] <escott> MissVera, i would just ignore it if it is happening during the install
[00:16] <MissVera> I had tried to install it, and at the end it said something about a problem it couldnt recover from. and now im trying to install again, and its telling me i have no free space, escott
[00:16] <MissVera> So, just.. try again?
[00:16] <Sparky_> Twenty minute download x.x
[00:17] <thomas__1> Vera: you already tried once? did you partition the disk?
[00:17] <n1ckn4me09876543> what command do i use to know/find out if i have Python installed or what version
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: delete the 54Gb partition so that the space is unallocacted, then run the installer
[00:17] <MissVera> I clicked for it to format over the old linux version and replace it with Xubuntu
[00:17] <muelli> n1ckn4me09876543: python --version
[00:17] <MissVera> ActionParsnip, how? using the live cd? since the other OS is gone now..
[00:18] <n1ckn4me09876543> muelli: ty
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: you can use gparted in the liveCD
[00:18] <Sparky_> It is downloading two things, is that right?
[00:19] <MissVera> ActionParsnip okay. I've done this... once. So. didnt know.
[00:19] <thomas__1> what two things?
[00:19] <Sparky_> They look almost the same -.-
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: in the liveCD run:  gksudo gparted   and you can manipulate the drive
[00:19] <Sparky_> ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386 (1).iso
[00:19] <Sparky_> And
[00:19] <thomas__1> Sparky did you click twice?
[00:19] <Sparky_> ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
[00:19] <thomas__1> haha
[00:19] <Sparky_> Don't think so lol
[00:19] <thomas__1> you did
[00:20] <thomas__1> you can stop 1 of them
[00:20] <Sparky_> lol
[00:20] <Sparky_> ok
[00:20] <MissVera> ActionParsnip, lol. I spent an hour trying to figure out how to partition the other day using Gparted.I'll give it a go.
[00:20] <thomas__1> the other thing you need, scroll down a bit and click the usb instructions
[00:20] <Sparky_> `k
[00:20] <thomas__1> there's a program to create a live usb for you, dl that
[00:22] <MissVera> live USB thing - http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[00:22] <Sparky_> m
[00:22] <Sparky_> If I use it on a USB I can always delete it can't i?
[00:22] <mz|`_> Sparky_: you could also have used LiLi USB Creator, it 1/ download the ISO 2/ choose the key 3/ install the ISO on the USB automatically
[00:22] <mz|`_> yes just format the key
[00:22] <MissVera> yeah..
[00:23] <Sparky_> Format the key o.o?
[00:23] <i7c> can i list recent package upgrades somehow?
[00:23] <Sparky_> Could someone teamview with me and help? lol i'm confused beyond belief
[00:23] <MissVera> just format it :P
[00:23] <Sparky_> Idk how to do that -.-
[00:23] <muelli> i7c: very likely. There should be something in /var/log. probably "dpkg.log" or smth like that.
[00:24] <catphish> has anyone else had any problems starting at Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC
[00:24] <muelli> catphish: yes
[00:24] <muelli> catphish: http://serverfault.com/questions/403732/anyone-else-experiencing-high-rates-of-linux-server-crashes-today/403752#403752
[00:26] <i7c> muelli: indeed. thx!
[00:26] <catphish> thanks
[00:28] <thomas__1> how's Sparky doing, he stopped talking
[00:29] <aristidesfl> tried to install fglrx without success and now my screen is blank
[00:29] <aristidesfl> I've got ssh connection
[00:29] <aristidesfl> what to do?
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> aristidesfl: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:31] <aristidesfl> ActionParsnip http://hastebin.com/vujowelelo
[00:31] <fuzzynurfhurter> for some reason i cant get apt-get to install anything
[00:31] <rhizmoe> root?
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> aristidesfl: check what: fglrx(0): firegl_SetSuspendResumeState FAILED -9      is
[00:34] <mo7> hello
[00:34] <MissVera> Alright, I'm using UNetBootin to make a USB install for Voyager (Xubuntu)and near the bottom, it says, "Space used to preserve files across reboots (Ubuntu only)" then has a space for you to set it at however many mb.   How much should I allocate?
[00:35] <escott> MissVera, enough to store whatever files you want to save
[00:35] <thomas__1> Vera: What do you want to use it for? just installing?
[00:35] <MissVera> thomas__1 yes, just to install.
[00:36] <wolfgang_> Does anyone know a good nintendo 64 emulator?
[00:36] <thomas__1> then none
[00:36] <escott> MissVera, then zero
[00:36] <Sparky_> Nintendo 64?
[00:36] <MissVera> I cant see to install distros from cd, so i stick to flash drives
[00:36] <Sparky_> Nintendo 64 is so old they probably don't even have one x.x
[00:36] <MissVera> k
[00:36] <Sparky_> lol
[00:37] <MissVera> too old for an emulator? lul?
[00:37] <wolfgang_> Sparky_ , They have them i played on them on windows.
[00:37] <Sparky_> oh
[00:37] <Sparky_> hmm o_o
[00:37] <wolfgang_> i need one for linux
[00:38] <MissVera> there are emulators for NES games. how would a 64 be too old? :x
[00:38] <muelli> wolfgang_: a quick search on http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=n64 revealed mupen64plus
[00:38] <wolfgang_> melli, on software center?
[00:38] <wolfgang_> muelli, on sofware center?
[00:39] <escott> !info mupen64plus | wolfgang_
[00:39] <muelli> wolfgang_: I suggest that you check that yourself.
[00:39] <wolfgang_> I have so much random stuff D:
[00:40] <wolfgang_> muelli, can't find it
[00:40] <wolfgang_> Not I But the search
[00:40] <kristenB> How can I set my computer to allow only reverse ssh connections ?
[00:40] <muelli> wolfgang_: you have to have universe enabled.
[00:40] <wolfgang_> I have to go bye
[00:40] <muelli> kristenB: what is a reverse SSH connection?
[00:40] <wolfgang_> also what is univers?
[00:41] <kristenB> muelli: a ssh with the option -R...
[00:41] <wolfgang_> !universe
[00:41] <wolfgang_> Gota go
[00:42] <muelli> kristenB: yes. So what do you want your computer to do? Do you want to set openssh up in such a way that people can only do (reverse) port forwarding?
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> you cn buy an N64 for next to nothing and the games cost less than a mars bar
[00:42] <escott> kristenB, why would you want this?
[00:42] <kristenB> muelli: yes
[00:42] <kristenB> muelli: why not ?
[00:42] <kristenB> escott: why not?
[00:43] <escott> kristenB, i mean why would you want to allow reverse ssh but not regular ssh?
[00:43] <escott> kristenB, beyond just putting up a firewall?
[00:43] <numberto1> Hi guys, I keep getting system errors and as far as I understood it is because of posgresql-9.1.  Can I just completely remove it? (Ubuntu 12.04 upgrade from 11.10)
[00:44] <kristenB> escott: because I would like to have access to a computer B that is behind a NAT, without giving him access to my computer.
[00:44] <muelli> kristenB: well. If it was me, I'd create a user with /bin/false as shell and put a public key in ~user/.ssh/authorized_keys with the necessary parameters set up. I believe man ssh_config or sshd_config lists the necessary options
[00:45] <escott> kristenB, how about setting up an auth-key and setting the command to /bin/false?
[00:45] <muelli> kristenB: i.e. I have something for a friend. The following allows him to do port forwarding, but doesn't get a shell: command="sleep 900",no-X11-forwarding,no-agent-forwarding $the_public_key
[00:45] <kristenB> muelli: so what's the full command exactly ?
[00:46] <numberto1> So can anybody tell me if I can fully delete postgresql from ubuntu?
[00:46] <kristenB> escott: how would setting the command to /bin/false work exactly ?
[00:46] <muelli> kristenB: well. cat >> ~user/.ssh/authorized_keys <<EOF
[00:46] <muelli> kristenB: and then the string fom above. Then CTRL+D
[00:46] <muelli> or EOF really
[00:46] <escott> kristenB, much as muelli suggested. you setup a key for this usage and put it in authkeys with the command=/bin/false prefixed before the public key
[00:47] <kristenB> I'm sorry I'm quite lost I'm actually not used to settings keys, I usually just do with passwords
[00:47] <escott> kristenB, auth keys are AMAZING
[00:48] <muelli> but kristenB. That's rather advanced OpenSSH voodoo. I'd suggest you to read up on OpenSSH, Publickeys, linux user management and so on. And come back after a week of studying and experimenting.
[00:48] <kristenB> so step by step, assuming A is my computer, and B is the computer I want to access through the reverse ssh connection (that is, B is supposed to connect to A with ssh in such a way that A can access B)
[00:48] <escott> kristenB, run ssh-keygen it will ask for a path to the key call it id_rsa_untrusted
[00:49] <escott> kristenB, that will create id_rsa_untrusted and id_rsa_untrusted.pub
[00:49] <kristenB> so run ssh-keygen on A, right ?
[00:49] <kristenB> wait I'm doing it as you say
[00:49] <kristenB> so the first step is to run ssh-keygen on A ?
[00:49] <escott> kristenB, yes. give B id_rsa_untrusted and add a line to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys that starts "command=/bin/false " and follows with the contents of id_rsa_untrusted.pub
[00:50] <kristenB> so I typed ssh-keygen. It asks me where to save it and seems to give me a default path. Should I just type 'enter' ?
[00:50] <escott> kristenB, no call it untrusted
[00:51] <escott> kristenB, you dont want to confuse this key with YOUR key. this is an untrusted identity
[00:51] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i own an n64 and a usb->n64 adapter mupen64plus is amazing.
[00:51] <kristenB> it says "Enter file in which to save the key (/home/kristen/.ssh/id_rsa):" should I type the whole path ?
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: n64 is 6 GBP...
[00:52] <kristenB> should I type 'id_rsa_untrusted' or '/home/kristen/.ssh/id_rsa_untrusted' ?
[00:52] <escott> kristenB, sure otherwise it will save it to your ~ (or whatever folder you are currently in)
[00:52] <kristenB> I should type '/home/kristen/.ssh/id_rsa_untrusted' then?
[00:53] <escott> kristenB, sure
[00:53] <kristenB> now it asks for a passphrase
[00:53] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: check out the prices for new n64 games.  i own a boxed copy of "Pocky & Rocky 2" that i got from a 2nd hand thrift sort for nothing - and it's probably worth $500+ ;) </OT>
[00:53] <escott> kristenB, this is a password for the key. you would need to give any such password to B, or you can just press [ENTER] to leave it passwordless
[00:54] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: sorry Pocky & Rocky 2 is an SNES game
[00:55] <kristenB> ok, I chose a password. The shell returned. What now ?
[00:55] <kristenB> I need to give this key to B, right ?
[00:55] <escott> kristenB, now "ls -l ~/.ssh" should show the untrusted rsa file
[00:55] <escott> kristenB, lets do some other stuff to make sure it works the way we want
[00:55] <sunshinehappy> vidalia can't connect to the debian-tor instance of tor that's launched by init, if I kill it vidalia can launch its own tor and work fine: How can I get it so I don't have to kill the debian-tor tor after starting up?
[00:56] <escott> kristenB, "cd .ssh" and then "cat id_rsa_untrusted.pub" just so you know what the public key looks like, and "cat id_rsa_untrusted.pub >> authorized_keys" to add it, and "ssh -i id_rsa_untrusted localhost" to verify that your authkeys is working to allow login
[00:58] <escott> kristenB, if that was done correctly you should have gotten an ssh login without being asked for your password (not what we want for B, but it means that auth keys is working)
[00:58] <kristenB> what is -i in ssh ?
[00:59] <escott> kristenB, it specifies what identify file to use. by default it uses ~/.ssh/id_rsa
[00:59] <muelli> kristenB: the identity to use. as "man ssh" will tell you :o)
[00:59] <matreya6> escott, moving the partition start is warned against even by parted itself On top of that it seems that this WD-EARX (Green) drive has an annoying "feature" that causes it to park every 10 seconds when not using Windows causing the @!# drive to fai within a year. I'll never buy these drives again.
[00:59] <escott> matreya6, the second should be something you can deal with through hdparm
[01:00] <kristenB> well as a matter of fact it did ask for a password
[01:00] <escott> kristenB, but was it the password for the id_rsa_untrusted or YOUR password
[01:00] <kristenB> mine
[01:00] <matreya6> escott, no, because it is in the firmware of the drives itself, which can only be interfaced using a Windows driver directly form WD
[01:01] <escott> kristenB, ssh -v -i id_rsa_untrusted localhost   will explain what ssh is doing. could you paste the output of that
[01:01] <escott> !paste | kristenB
[01:03] <kristenB> but I didn't choose any password when prompted by ssh-keygen, maybe that's because of that
[01:03] <xaviergmail> How would I go about wiping a drive completely with as many pases as possible, I'm handing out a computer to a friend and I have bank data on the drive which I want to be completely wiped
[01:03] <xaviergmail> and not recoverable by any means?
[01:03] <kristenB> there's no need to set a password, because only reverse will be allowed anyway
[01:03] <escott> kristenB, no. its something else. maybe the permissions of auth_keys are too open. what is ls -l ~/.ssh/authorized_keys say?
[01:04] <kristenB> -rw-rw-r--
[01:04] <MissVera> xaviergmail  google gives quite a few programs :X
[01:04] <catphish> xaviergmail: a single wipe is currently not recoverable by any means but you can overwrite using dd and urandom a couple of times if you want
[01:04] <escott> kristenB, thats the problem. chmod 600 authorized_keys
[01:05] <MissVera> For complete destruction, I believe It's something like 30 over-writes?
[01:05] <xaviergmail> I read somewhere that 7 pass wipe is the standard for us government
[01:05] <MissVera> Not quite
[01:05] <xaviergmail> and a friend told me 32 pass is overkill but completely safe
[01:05] <MissVera> yerp
[01:05] <kristenB> escott:  well even after chmod,  ssh -i id_rsa_untrusted localhost still asks for a password
[01:05] <xaviergmail> the thing is google failed me on a 32 pass drive wiper
[01:06] <escott> kristenB, then throw some -v's in there and paste it over to us
[01:06] <MissVera> its not necessarily overkill. depends on how safe you want your data
[01:06] <xaviergmail> I want it as safe as possible
[01:08] <escott> kristenB, ssh -vv -i id_rsa...
[01:09] <webster> hello
[01:09] <kristenB> escott:  yes I'm doing it
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> xaviergmail: single pass is al you need
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> xaviergmail: you can use dd to echo 0s to the drive from start to end
[01:10] <kristenB> http://pastebin.com/fJhr3G1X
[01:11] <xaviergmail> ActionParsnip:  isn't a single pass recoverable by a magnetic something method?
[01:11] <escott> kristenB, weird. its offering the key, but its not being accepted. what does "ls -l ~/.ssh" say
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> xaviergmail: no, the info you have is waaay out of date about needing multiple wipes
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> xaviergmail: you could wipe with 1s then 0s if you really want but a single sweep is sufficient
[01:12] <alankila> xaviergmail: probably not for last few decades. The data density is too high today for there to be any sense of meaningful residual magnetic stuff to recover. Or whatever the original theory was.
[01:12] <kristenB> The files are authorized_keys (rw-------) id_rsa_untrusted (rw---------) id_rsa_untrusted.pub (-rw-r--r--) and known_hosts (-rw-r--r--)
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> alankila: not seen anyone ask about this stuff in years now :)
[01:13] <alankila> the point is, these days we're lucky to get the original data back when we try to read it, because redundancies are getting too low for reliable operation.
[01:13] <OerHeks> xaviergmail, test it yourself with testdisk: if testdisk can find anything, it will find it immidiatly.
[01:13] <xaviergmail> ActionParsnip:  Alright I'll do a 2 pass wipe with 1's and 0's, I'm paranoid like that :P
[01:13] <escott> kristenB, and authorized_keys is the same as id_rsa_untrusted.pub. "diff authorized_keys id_rsa_untrusted.pub" should say no differences
[01:14] <xaviergmail> and I'll try that oer, thanks
[01:14] <kristenB> no it's not
[01:15] <escott> kristenB, ok. id_rsa_untrusted.pub should be one of the lines of authorized_keys (did you cat id_rsa_untrusted >> authorized_keys instead of .pub by chance?)
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> xaviergmail: i'd just smash up the drive and buy new if yu have that many tinfoil hats
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> xaviergmail: drives are cheap
[01:16] <alankila> also whatever you write it's going to get encoded into some semiregularly flipping magnetic field based on some encoding. It is not true that if you write 0 somehow the entire disk gets magnetized to north or south orientation. Regardless what you write, at the platter level there will be polarity swaps because to recover the information at all, the field polarity must change regularly.
[01:16] <kristenB> escott: woopsie
[01:16] <kristenB> escott:  sorry about that, you're right, let me correct that
[01:17] <escott> kristenB, its easy to get the two confused :). you can just delete the authorized_keys file and try again. don't forget to chmod 600 the auth keys file
[01:17] <alankila> this is because the disk is spinning at some speed which is not known exactly, and too long runs of no change of polarity are difficult to detect. Was that 500 0-bits I just read, or 501? You get the idea, hopefully.
[01:17] <kristenB> ok it works now
[01:17] <kristenB> no password asked
[01:17] <kristenB> what's the next step then ?
[01:17] <xaviergmail> I guess
[01:17] <xaviergmail> thanks guys
[01:18] <escott> kristenB, so thats clearly not what you want. so you now open authorized_keys in an editor
[01:18] <kristenB> done
[01:18] <Jonny1> Hi. I want to route audio from different applications to different sound card outputs. I have a USB 5.1 channel sound module plus the onboard audio card so theoretically I could have 8 channels of output. Which software would I use? In particular, I want to use one audio player such as rhythm box to preview songs to headphones and another player like banshee or audacious to play songs to loudspeakers
[01:19] <escott> kristenB, before the ssh-rsa you can put various things. in this case put 'command=/bin/false,from="B's ip if known",no-X11-forwarding,noagent-forwarding'
[01:20] <scaidernet> hello
[01:21] <escott> kristenB, that should probably be no-agent-forwarding (check the ssh man page for the various options). but now the ssh -i command should login and immediately exit
[01:22] <escott> kristenB, and if you tried to specify a command like ssh -i ... -C /bin/bash it shouldn't let you
[01:23] <jfujuweijfdfh> hi all. are any people have problems with ubuntu server 10.04? we seem to have had about 10 of our servers bomb out at 00:00(UTC) - 2 hours ago with very high load and processes exhibit really high cpu
[01:23] <kristenB> what does no-agent-forwarding mean ?
[01:24] <alankila> jfujuweijfdfh: hmm, could it be the leap second thing?
[01:24] <jfujuweijfdfh> alankila: whats that then? pardon my ignorance
[01:25] <escott> kristenB, suppose B has a key to access C, and wants to connect through A without giving A the key. he can forward his agent and then its as if his key was on A, but it really never leaves B
[01:25] <alankila> jfujuweijfdfh: they inserted a leap second at end of June
[01:26] <kristenB> escott: as far as quotes go, should it be of the form:       ssh-rsa command=/bin/false,from="0.0.0.0",no-X11-forwarding,no-agent-forwarding  ABCD...rest_of_the_key
[01:26] <escott> kristenB, long and short you probably want to say no to most things that B might want to use
[01:26] <alankila> jfujuweijfdfh: the timing matches for 00:00 as that would be the insertion time, I suppose
[01:26] <alankila> or it might be. I'm not 100% sure how the process works.
[01:26] <escott> kristenB, from=0.0.0.0 is going to stop everyone from using that line
[01:26] <escott> kristenB, if you don't know B's address then leave the from clause out
[01:26] <kristenB> I know I meant just the syntax
[01:26] <jfujuweijfdfh> alankila: ah interesting. im wondering if it is unlikely to be an ubuntu thing if no one else has raised it - im guessing theres no talk of it on here
[01:27] <escott> kristenB, and all that comes before the ssh-rsa bit
[01:27] <kristenB> the quotes, are they correct
[01:27] <alankila> jfujuweijfdfh: I heard that old kernels -- was it 2.6.28 and earlier -- may actually crash trying to handle the leap second
[01:27] <escott> kristenB, the ssh-rsa identifies the format of the hexkey
[01:27] <kpl> I uninstalled empathy but I still have those availability options ( available, away, offline) under my messaging menu, How can I remove those? ubuntu 12.04
[01:27] <escott> kristenB, your quotes are fine
[01:28] <kristenB> ok the file has been edited
[01:28] <kristenB> what now
[01:28] <kristenB> I could try that I can't indeed access loopback like I was able to before, right?
[01:28] <escott> kristenB, try your ssh -i and you should be rejected based on the from clause
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> kpl: may have to log off and on
[01:28] <whoever> hi all, need some help, i am running lightty(thAT is not running at the moment) and i direct my brower to my website, i get not found, but the signiture line says apache 2.0 .. why, i don't have apache installed
[01:29] <kristenB> well now it's asking for a password again, is that expected ?
[01:29] <kpl> Didn't work out ActionParsnip , But thanx for the response
[01:29] <escott> kristenB, make the from clause 127.0.0.1 and try again and you should be able to login, but you immediately disconnect because your shell is /bin/false
[01:29] <jfujuweijfdfh> alankila: we are on 2.6.32 so fairly close
[01:29] <escott> kristenB, so its skipping that line because the from doesn't match
[01:29] <alankila> jfujuweijfdfh: well, that is one specific bug. Perhaps you hit some other bug.
[01:29] <jfujuweijfdfh> okay
[01:30] <kristenB> I would like it to be even more severe than that
[01:30] <kristenB> rather than just going back to the password level, I would like my computer to refuse the ssh connection
[01:30] <kristenB> is that not possible ?
[01:30] <escott> kristenB, you can disable password login
[01:30] <jfujuweijfdfh> it definitely seems to be a time based thing as the load shot up at midnight utc. rebooting the boxes work so i guess the leap second could be an explanation; whether it is a kernel thing or something else we are running, im not sure
[01:30] <poooooki> yes
[01:30] <kristenB> just for that key?
[01:30] <poooooki> a leap second was inserted
[01:31] <poooooki> reboot fixes the problem.
[01:31] <poooooki> seems to be a kernel bug to do with threading.
[01:31] <alankila> time is a dangerous thing, it seems. Mess with it and all systems break.
[01:31] <kristenB> escott: just for that key?
[01:31] <escott> kristenB, thats not really meaningful. thats like saying. "i see you have a key, but it doesn't fit and i'm not allowed to ask a password when you have a key" well in that case the next time i come to the door i'll just say "i dont have a key"
[01:32] <kristenB> i see what you mean
[01:32] <kristenB> makes sense :)
[01:32] <Nefertem> anyone use jolicloud?
[01:33] <escott> kristenB, what you really want is to disable password login outside of your subnet in /etc/sshd_config
[01:33] <kristenB> let me try to modify 'from' and see how it goes
[01:33] <alankila> Another reported, although somewhat inexplicable, crash related to the leap second insertion: https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/6/30/122
[01:33] <fellayaboy> instead of using zenity id like to use that gui widget i guess its what its called.. the one the networkmanager uses when you connect and disconnect internet
[01:34] <fellayaboy> whats the name of that, how can i use that widget instead of zenity for my scripts
[01:34] <kristenB> escott: I'm not sure I would want that. Because then I wouldn't be able to connect from elsewhere without having exchanged the keys previously. But it's okay my password is really strong and the port has been changed
[01:34] <Jordan_U> fellayaboy: notify-osd
[01:34] <fellayaboy> thank u
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> fellayaboy: notify-osd
[01:34] <alankila> Hmm I definitely see loads going up at UTC 00:00 here too
[01:34] <Jordan_U> fellayaboy: So you probably want to use notify-send.
[01:35] <escott> kristenB, you can also carry an id_rsa around on a usb keychain, and keep your key with your keys
[01:35] <alankila> three virtual machines appear to be suffering from high cpu usage. Oh lovely.
[01:35] <fellayaboy> Jordan_U theres no issues using that for the purpose of just echoing a line of text is there
[01:36] <kristenB> escott: true, ok I'll do that
[01:36] <kristenB> escott: the fact is I always have a usb key with me
[01:36] <jfujuweijfdfh> alankila: seems to be a bug https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?messageID=360514&tstart=0
[01:37] <poooooki> 1.8 Million context switches. woot.
[01:37] <jfujuweijfdfh> other ppl talking about cpu steal
[01:37] <escott> kristenB, if you are security conscious thats the best practice, but it is a bit of a pain
[01:37] <Jordan_U> fellayaboy: None that I can think of, though I don't know your specific use yet.
[01:37] <kristenB> escott: I've changed 'from' to 127.0.0.1 but I'm still being asked for a password ?
[01:38] <fellayaboy> just to echo if an exit status is 0 or 1..if 0 then echo success if not then something went wrong..etc
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> fellayaboy: eg:  notify-send 'Test Message' 'Great success!!'
[01:38] <fellayaboy> allllriight great success
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> fellayaboy: I like!!
[01:38] <escott> kristenB, im not too sure how the from line works. maybe it wants localhost there...
[01:38] <fellayaboy> can i draw 2 thumbs up with a mustached man
[01:38] <fellayaboy> lol
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> fellayaboy: there is an option for an image in notify-send :)
[01:39] <kristenB> escott: as a matter of fact I've just tried without 'from', it also asks me for a password...
[01:39] <fellayaboy> no way
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> fellayaboy: way
[01:39] <fellayaboy> let me check the man page
[01:39] <escott> kristenB, what does the auth_keys line look like (you can safely paste it here since it only has the public part of the key)
[01:39] <fellayaboy> lol the icon
[01:40] <fellayaboy> ima test it brb
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> fellayaboy: notify-send 'Test Message' 'Great success' -i ~/Pictures/wawaweewa.png
[01:40] <fellayaboy> nice nice thank u
[01:40] <Guest990> Does anyone know if there's a way to use dual monitors with a kvm virtual machine?
[01:40] <kristenB> so just to be clear as to what I'm doing, what I have in authorized_keys is                command=/bin/false,no-X11-forwarding,no-agent-forwarding ssh-rsa  ABCD..rest_of_the_key... kristen@pc
[01:40] <alankila> well this was poor showing from linux's part. I have mysqlds and java processes showing high cpu usage here
[01:40] <alankila> all rebooted by now though
[01:41] <kristenB> and then I'm doing ssh -i id_rsa_untrusted localhost
[01:41] <escott> kristenB, that looks ok
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> alankila: is it oracle's java?
[01:41] <alankila> openjdk
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> alankila: any bugs reported for either?
[01:41] <David_Miller> Is there a way to fix the leap second load without a reboot
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> David_Miller: could sync to an ntp server
[01:42] <kristenB> actually I've tried different things, and I've found out that only removing command=/bin/false permits to log in without password
[01:43] <David_Miller> I am synced, that is the problem :)
[01:43] <David_Miller> aren't people in this channell getting the 100% load issue?
[01:43] <alankila> looks like restarting mysqld does not even fix it. Do I really have to reboot this machine to recover from this
[01:43] <alankila> it just goes right back to the 100% cpu use
[01:43] <escott> kristenB, i think i know what might be happening. try ssh -i ... -C /bin/false
[01:43] <David_Miller> alankila: let me know if you find out
[01:43] <David_Miller> and i'll do the same
[01:43] <David_Miller> I tried stoping/starting all my services
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> alankila: maybe its the leap second thing
[01:44] <alankila> sure it is
[01:44] <alankila> started right after the 00:00 UTC
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> alankila: then if its convenient, reboot
[01:44] <David_Miller> It's not convenient :)
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> alankila: or submit an emergency change then reboot
[01:44] <operatorplik> haloo
[01:44] <kristenB> escott: doesn't work either
[01:44] <fellayaboy> ha golden Actionparsnip...im adding that borat to my script
[01:44] <fellayaboy> it worked
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> fellayaboy: nice!
[01:45] <operatorplik> morninggg
[01:45] <fellayaboy> ima go read up more thank u for ur help guys
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> fellayaboy: but when will jack be here?
[01:45] <fellayaboy> jack?
[01:45] <operatorplik> halo my name is aida :)
[01:46] <operatorplik> halo tasmania
[01:46] <Tasmania> hey.
[01:46] <din> alankila, i find just rebooting and saying the machine rebooted is much easier than getting approval to do so. ;)
[01:46] <fellayaboy> later dudes
[01:47] <operatorplik> where do you laive my friends??
[01:47] <poooooki> I have rebooted 80 machines thus far. Fingers hurt.
[01:47] <David_Miller> so why does reboot fix it?
[01:47] <alankila> well it's mildly inconvenient to have to reboot for this
[01:48] <alankila> well, I guess it can't be helped. What a bummer.
[01:49] <escott> kristenB, try putting /bin/false inside quotes
[01:49] <David_Miller> poooooki: im sorry :(
[01:49] <escott> kristenB, apparently thats necessary
[01:49] <David_Miller> we are going to have to do reboots remotely which is always scary
[01:49] <kristenB> escott: where
[01:49] <escott> kristenB, command="/bin/false"
[01:49] <kristenB> escott: in -C or in auth_keys ?
[01:50] <escott> kristenB, and then it shoudl just work. the -C is unnecessary
[01:50] <kristenB> escott: I'm afraid it still doesn't work, I've just tried it
[01:50] <alankila> well, that took care of that
[01:50] <kristenB> escott: not even with -C
[01:51] <escott> kristenB, so your auth keys looks like 'command="/bin/false",no.... ssh-rsa ...'
[01:51] <kristenB> escott: nor -C '/bin/false'
[01:51] <kristenB> escott: no it's not like that, i had single quotes
[01:51] <kristenB> escott: let me try double
[01:52] <escott> kristenB, it needs to be double quotes
[01:52] <din> alankila, i trust everything came back up ok?
[01:52] <alankila> yeah it only took a reboot
[01:52] <rango> I am Chinese, but I am using an English Ubuntu Desktop System,what can I do as the input method switcher always  strike after I reboot ?
[01:53] <kristenB> escott: ok it works now. Thanks :). It closes right away though. That's because I didn't use -C, right ?
[01:53] <geekbri> leap seconds thank god they ruin your day
[01:53] <escott> kristenB, no thats because the shell is /bin/false
[01:53] <fuzzynurfhurter> hi yall how can u change the login manager from lxdm back to the default??
[01:53] <escott> kristenB, you can try any -C command you want. it will be ignored. the shell is /bin/false. and it immediately returns. the user cannot DO anything with that key. it opens to a brick wall
[01:54] <alankila> still, I guess the joke is on us. If windows has to be rebooted because mouse pointer was moved, at least that is something that the user did. This time the clocks were adjusted via NTP and linux had to be rebooted.
[01:54] <escott> kristenB, but with a master control file you should be able to use that open connection to reverse ssh out
[01:55] <kristenB> escott: hmm, there's a slight difference though. If I don't add -C, it ouputs 'Connection to localhost closed.'. However, if I add -C /bin/ls, it doesn't output anything. Why doesn't it output the same message ?
[01:55] <alankila> I'll be interested to read the scoop about this tomorrow
[01:56] <escott> kristenB, so on B set "Host *  ControlMaster auto  ControlPath /tmp/ssh_%r@%h:%p  ControlPersist 4h" in ~/.ssh/config and it when B starts the connection to A he opens the channel but cant do anything. the channel stays open for 4 hours
[01:57] <escott> kristenB, probably because with -C ssh is not supposed to be interactive so the ssh client does not generate the message that says "your session was closed" that would confuse an application that tried to parse the output of an ssh -C command
[01:57] <fuzzynurfhurter> hi yall how can u change the login manager from lxdm back to the default manager??
[01:57] <kristenB> I see
[01:58] <kristenB> ok so now I'm supposed to go to B, right ?
[01:58] <trism> fuzzynurfhurter: which ubuntu version?
[01:58] <WeThePeople> is anybody familiar with mkisofs?
[01:58] <escott> kristenB, yes. now you can give the untrusted key to B, and setup B to use a control file and persist the connection, and to use the untrusted id file to connect to your system
[01:59] <kristenB> so the first step is to give *.pub to B, right ?
[02:00] <escott> kristenB, no give it the key itself (you can give anyone the pub, but B needs the private key)
[02:00] <kristenB> what's the use of the public key then?
[02:00] <escott> kristenB, anyone can have the *.pub (and you should feel happy giving it out) the other file is the real key, the pub is what the key fits into
[02:01] <escott> kristenB, mathematically its a bit more complicated, but someone with id_rsa.pub can generate a challenge that only someone with id_rsa can solve
[02:01] <kristenB> as far as ssh is concerned though
[02:02] <escott> kristenB, so you give me your id_rsa.pub, and then i challenge you and say "solve this" if you can then you have id_rsa, if you cant then you dont
[02:02] <kristenB> in what use case would it be useful to give the public key as far as ssh is concerned?
[02:02] <amh345> is there an issue with ubuntu and leap second?
[02:02] <escott> kristenB, the pub keys go on the machines you want to have access to. the private keys stay on the machines that need access
[02:03] <kristenB> right
[02:03] <naptastic> What do I use now instead of chkconfig?
[02:03] <bunty> hi all
[02:03] <kristenB> ok so let's copy it from A to B.
[02:03] <escott> kristenB, i could say "put this in your authorized_keys" and if you were stupid enough to do so I would have access to your machine. no skin off my back ssh-rsa AAAAB3N....
[02:03] <Corey> naptastic: update-rc.d
[02:03] <naptastic> Corey, thank you!
[02:03] <Corey> naptastic: no worries.
[02:04] <bunty> I just installed ubuntu but the system didn't create my user for me. instead I get "guest" login
[02:04] <bunty> how can i add or create a new user ?
[02:04] <Corey> bunty: useradd
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> alankila: its good to clear RAM and possibly boot to new kernel etc
[02:05] <bunty> sudo useradd newuser doesn't work bc user "guest" isn't in the sudo list
[02:05] <Corey> bunty: Uh... is there a ubuntu user?
[02:05] <Corey> bunty: ls /ome
[02:05] <Corey> Er, /home
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> bunty: you can reboot to root recovery mode and make a user there, the Ubuntu install process asks you to make a user which you can now log in with, sounds like you aren't using ubuntu
[02:06] <bunty> yes it did
[02:06] <bunty> I made the user bunty but .... it's not there
[02:06] <WeThePeople> is anybody familiar with mkisofs?
[02:06] <escott> !anyone | WeThePeople
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> bunty: so your user that you made isn't in the user list in thelogin screen?
[02:08] <bunty> correct
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> bunty: let me search
[02:08] <kristenB> escott: ok i've copied id_rsa_untrusted to B.
[02:08] <Jagst3r15> i cannot play my DVD
[02:09] <Jagst3r15> it says i need to install gstreamer stuff but it then gives me an error message
[02:09] <WeThePeople> how do i make a iso from a folder using mkisofs?
[02:09] <escott> !dvd | Jagst3r15
[02:09] <rinzler> I'm not seeing xubuntu as an apt-get option...
[02:10] <kristenB> escott: now that I'm thinking about it, wouldn't it have been more logical to generate that key in B, and send the public part to A ?
[02:10] <mneptok> Jagst3r15: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:10] <bunty> ok I think I will load the CD again and mount the /target and add the user.
[02:10] <mneptok> rinzler: xubuntu-desktop or xfce
[02:10] <bunty> how do I add a user to the sudo list ?
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> bunty: if you log off and press CTRL+ALT+F1 and log in as bunty there, you can run:  echo "greeter-hide-users=true" | sudo tee -a /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[02:10] <Corey> bunty: visudo
[02:11] <mneptok> bunty: adduser $NAME admin
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> bunty: then run:  sudo reboot   and you can type your username to log in with
[02:11] <rinzler> mneptok: does that include all the packages necessary?
[02:11] <escott> kristenB, you could do that if you wanted, but i would discourage B from using this as his key. if he decides to change keys then you have to change keys. its easier if you control the key and just tell him to use it
[02:11] <mneptok> rinzler: yes
[02:11] <chamunks> I gotta create a link in my ubuntu lamp setup to a directory outside of /var/www/ how would i do this?
[02:11] <rinzler> mneptok: Ok. Thanks!
[02:11] <Pecker> symlink chamunks
[02:11] <mneptok> rinzler: xubuntu-desktop is all the Xubuntu apps. xfce is the DE only.
[02:11] <Pecker> see ln cmd
[02:11] <escott> kristenB, normally yes. B would have his key and ask you to make if fit in your lock (give you the .pub) but this isn't HIS key its really YOUR key
[02:11] <Jagst3r15> mneptok thanks!
[02:11] <kristenB> escott: ok in any case the copy is done, what's the next step ?
[02:11] <rinzler> mneptok: perfect. Thanks!
[02:12] <kristenB> escott: I see. Thanks for the explanation
[02:12] <chamunks> Pecker, i tried "sudo ln -s ./ /var/www/get/ch/
[02:12] <chamunks> "
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> rinzler: xfce4 is the package for a minimal xfce DE
[02:12] <Doug2710> How can I find out if the ASUS P9X79 DELUXE motherboard will work with Ubuntu?
[02:13] <bunty> ok bbiab
[02:13] <Pecker> um then check to see if the link points to right place
[02:13] <philsf> hi, my netbook doesn't turn off speakers when I plug a headphone in. my girlfriend's netbook is the same model, and same ubuntu release (11.10) and it works there. I messed around with alsa configs some releases ago but don't know which files I should revert. Does anyone know where should I look to fix this?
[02:13] <kristenB> kristenB: first of all, in B, where do I have to put that key ?
[02:13] <Pecker> seesmto me you didnt give it the right link to go to though
[02:13] <kristenB> escott: first of all, in B, where do I have to put that key ?
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> Pecker: file /path/to/link
[02:14] <escott> kristenB, best to put it in ~/.ssh. then make his ~/.ssh/config look like http://paste.ubuntu.com/1068727/
[02:14] <hannss> Doug2710,  search for compatible hardware ubuntu. there's a site that lists a good amount of gear and its friendly status with ubuntu
[02:14] <Doug2710> thanks, I'll give it a shot
[02:15] <kristenB> escott: right now there's no file named config. Should I create an empty one or import /etc/ssh/config ?
[02:15] <escott> WeThePeople, mkisofs -o file.iso folder
[02:15] <escott> kristenB, you can create one
[02:16] <escott> kristenB, /tmp/ssh_%u.... may not be appropriate for that system. you should think about whether or not that is desirable
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> kristenB: won't it be /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[02:16] <cym13> hi, does anyone know a CLI video conferencing tool ? Skype's not keyboard friendly…
[02:17] <kristenB> ActionParsnip: maybe it was just from memory :)
[02:17] <chamunks> Pecker, im not sure how to do that.
[02:17] <kristenB> escott: so could you give me a short explanation as to what each line does so that i'm usre it corresponds to my issue ?
[02:17] <chamunks> im kind of suggesting if i knew how to do that I'd ... maybe do it or if i had a clue what to look for i'd look for it.
[02:17] <escott> kristenB, the way this controlmaster stuff works is that when he starts the connection it creates a file /tmp/ssh_user@host:port which is a handle and allows future ssh connections to use that same channel.
[02:17] <T3CHKOMMIE> hey guys, i need some help. i got a raid card in my computer, old thing i scored from an old dell precision 620. I configured the raid to be a 0 raid and im trying to install ubuntu desktop ontop of it.. however, ubuntu cant see the raid as a whole.. just the two drives.. help?
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> !raid | T3CHKOMMIE
[02:18] <kristenB> escott: I'm lost. Where is that file created, in A or B?
[02:18] <escott> kristenB, the concern would be that anyone can see that filename, and root can read that file and control the channel (not that root@B can do anything to you@A)
[02:18] <Sparky_> I'm back
[02:18] <Sparky_> lol
[02:18] <escott> kristenB, it creates it on B
[02:18] <T3CHKOMMIE> ActionParsnip, im not looking for a softraid. I already got the radio up and going.. just cant get ubuntu to SEE it as a raid... is there a driver im missing?
[02:18] <chamunks> I gotta create a link in my ubuntu lamp setup to a directory outside of /var/www/ how would i do this?
[02:18] <Pecker> chamunks: sudo ln -sfn /target/folder /folder/to/put/link/in/and/its/name
[02:19] <chamunks> sorry thanks boss.
[02:19] <chamunks> i appreciate it.
[02:19] <chamunks> I'll look into the details about how this works when i do it :)
[02:19] <kristenB> escott: I don't really understand the purpose of that file.
[02:19] <escott> kristenB, if there were 2000 people on this machine then the existence of /tmp/ssh_... would publicize the existence of YOUR machine and YOUR username which might concern you
[02:19] <Pecker> yeah see 'man ln' for more
[02:19] <aristidesfl> How can I disable gnome and keep xorg in 12.04 LTS?
[02:19] <sunshinehappy> When I kill a process in system monitor it says this could introduce a security risk: What security risk?
[02:20] <chamunks> thanks alot
[02:20] <escott> kristenB, right now when B ssh'es to A it runs /bin/false which closes immediately, giving you not time to reverse the connection. we need B to keep his channel open for a while
[02:20] <Pecker> sunshinehappy: depends on what data the app was using
[02:20] <Pecker> usually safe to ingore message
[02:20] <sunshinehappy> is there a guide to whether or not it's safe to kill certain processes?
[02:20] <kristenB> escott: oh I see.
[02:21] <Pecker> what process is giving you fite
[02:21] <Pecker> fits*
[02:21] <escott> kristenB, so we are setting up B to use this feature to persist all his connections for up to four hours (its also just a useful feature in general), so we enable connection sharing so all of B's connections to host X will be shared (which is more efficient) but it needs a file handle to run everything through
[02:21] <philsf> hi, my netbook doesn't turn off speakers when I plug a headphone in. my girlfriend's netbook is the same model, and same ubuntu release (11.10) and it works there. I messed around with alsa configs some releases ago but don't know which files I should revert. Does anyone know where should I look to fix this?
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> philsf: what netbook?
[02:21] <Pecker> !patience | philsf
[02:21] <Sparky_> Who was I talking to earlier about running ubuntu off a flash drive x.x I can't find them on the nick list :(
[02:22] <philsf> ActionParsnip, asus 1005ha
[02:22] <flab> Can anyone help me with ubuntu upgrade problems?
[02:22] <Pecker> flab: question is
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> philsf: why was that not in your initial question?
[02:22] <Nick9321> flab, what's wrong?
[02:22] <escott> kristenB, and the concern would be is "/tmp" the right place for B to keep his personal ssh persistence files. ideally you would have a /tmp for that specific user, so you could to /tmp/myusername/ thats not a bad place, but the desired config is really up to the sysadmin ofB
[02:22] <philsf> ActionParsnip, sorry for that. I didn't think it was relevant, since it's not a hardware problem, just a misconfig issue
[02:23] <Waraudon> A little concerned with the leap second problem. I'm running Precise on 3.2.0-26-generic-pae, anyone know if it's affected?
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> philsf: its the make and model of the system, so its very relevant
[02:23] <flab> i think i am having serious problems...i was doing an upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 and i became under the impression that i had to restart my computer in order for the process to continue...
[02:23] <WeThePeople> escott, how do i specify the folder location, its on my desktop..thats the part i have trouble with
[02:23] <kristenB> escott: I see. How about /home/Bname/tmp ?
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> philsf: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[02:23] <nrdb> my upgrade to 12:04 has stopped mid-upgrade ... :( ... I think it lost the internet for an extended period.. is there anyway to get it going again? ... It is in the "install the upgrades" action.
[02:23] <flab> so i tried to restart and now i cant access my desktop
[02:24] <escott> kristenB, /home/Bname/tmp won't be cleared on reboot, which would cause problems if he crashed because he would need to clear his personal /tmp. better would be a /tmp/Bname
[02:24] <Wikipediatre> roflmao http://bit.ly/z7Ja9f
[02:24] <escott> WeThePeople, mkisofs -o ~/Desktop/output.iso ~/Desktop/folder
[02:24] <sunshinehappy> java web start is putting an icon on my desktop every time I launch it, how can I stop it creating the desktop icon?
[02:25] <Sparky_> Ok, i'm running Ubuntu off a flash drive atm, and I want to install it, what do I do?
[02:25] <philsf> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1068738/
[02:25] <chamunks> Pecker, worked flawlessly.
[02:25] <kristenB> escott: I see. Well that was just for my information, in reality I'm also the only user on B, so I can put it in /tmp.
[02:25] <kristenB> escott: but what's the use of that persistent file ? Couldn't I do without ?
[02:25] <Pecker> nice
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> philsf: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa; sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> philsf: wait 10 seconds then reboot
[02:26] <escott> kristenB, you need the file for controlmaster auto to work. auto first checks if that file exists, and if it doesn't creates the connection, otherwise it uses the connection. ControlMaster auto is really great stuff and should be the default (the only concern is this control file in /tmp)
[02:28] <escott> kristenB, you can also specify the control file on the CLI. so if you wanted to add this to something like /etc/rc.local then you could specify a control file in the command or hard code it within the Host section of the config file
[02:28] <kristenB> escott: what I also don't understand is the IdentityFile part. Is this file's content shared on the network unencrypted before the encryption takes place ?
[02:28] <philsf> ActionParsnip, ok, will try. if this works, should I be able to revert to pristine packages instead of those from the ppa?
[02:28] <futte> Hello
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> philsf: the ppa givs you a later alsa which can help as the defaults are old, it may help. The command is from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[02:29] <escott> kristenB, we are just hardcoding the -i id_rsa_untrusted bit with the IdentifyFile line
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> philsf: I just re-jig it to be nicer
[02:30] <nrdb> my upgrade to 12:04 has stopped mid-upgrade ... :( ... I think it lost the internet for an extended period.. is there anyway to get it going again? ... It is in the "install the upgrades" action.
[02:30] <kristenB> escott: I know. But that -i option, is it passed unencrypted over the wire ?
[02:30] <philsf> ActionParsnip, ok, thanks. I'll return in a while to report.
[02:31] <escott> kristenB, no. nothing in ssh is ever done unencrypted, and keys are in fact never passed in either direction. its all based on diffie hellman and public private key signatures
[02:31] <kristenB> escott: okay.
[02:32] <evilytwisted> is there anyway to restart a cysco router from terminal imput?
[02:32] <escott> kristenB, theoretically there is no danger in your doing ssh user@blackhate.site
[02:33] <kristenB> escott: yes that's somehow what I want to reproduce, B isn't a safe place;
[02:33] <kristenB> kristenB: it's work, actually
[02:35] <escott> kristenB, worst case someone (your boss) compromises B and gets id_rsa_untrusted, but all he can do is establish a connection to your computer. he can't do anything with that connection
[02:35] <kristenB> yes that's exactly what I want :)
[02:35] <kristenB> so sorry for asking again, but it hasn't pierced into my brain just yet. Why would we need a temporary file ?
[02:36] <evilytwisted> escott:  is there anyway to restart a cysco router from terminal input?
[02:36] <IdleOne> evilytwisted: question better asked in ##networking
[02:37] <escott> kristenB, so you want this connection to persist. and there are other ways to persist it other than control master, but control master is really useful and it works here
[02:37] <escott> kristenB, im not sure what you gain by doing otherwise
[02:38] <kristenB> escott: but what if I just used (from B): ssh -nrR A
[02:38] <helloworld> so many peoples here!
[02:38] <kristenB> escott: but what if I just used (from B): ssh -nrR 2000:127.0.0.1:22 A
[02:39] <phunyguy> helloworld: this is not a toy.
[02:39] <tking> hi guys how do i kill movie play, it won't exit and wont play
[02:39] <evilytwisted> use a sledge hammer?
[02:39] <evilytwisted> then a clawhammer?
[02:39] <kristenB> and then from A, a few hours later, ssh -p 2000 127.0.0.1
[02:39] <escott> kristenB, you could try without the control master. it might not be necessary. i've never used reverse connections.
[02:40] <tking> hi guys how do i kill movie playerer, it won't exit and wont play
[02:40] <gsr> hi all.  An hour ago, I noticed that flash and unity were lagging.  Tried restarting, then looked at the additional drivers section, and saw that fglrx has been uninstalled.  I tried enabling it again, but it failed, and told me to check jockey.log.  Never seen this log before, what should I be looking for?
[02:40] <IdleOne> !behelpful | evilytwisted
[02:40] <kristenB> escott: what's exactly the advantage of using a control master ?
[02:40] <evilytwisted> sorry
[02:40] <kristenB> escott: apart from, maybe, keeping the connection alive
[02:40] <escott> kristenB, my concern would be what makes the B connection persist? and i know with a control master you can make it persist. there may be other ways. perhaps you can directly specify the persistence of the connection in the Host section
[02:41] <kristenB> I think I would want it to indefinitely persist
[02:42] <kristenB> in other words, I would want to be able to access B from A at any given time, and not just within 4 hours of living B
[02:42] <escott> kristenB, http://www.vdomck.org/2005/11/reversing-ssh-connection.html
[02:42] <escott> kristenB, well you can tune that 4 hours, you could even have a script running on B that checks if the control master file is there, and if its not restarts the connection
[02:43] <escott> kristenB, or set the persistence for 4 hours and open the connection every hour
[02:43] <kristenB> escott: (I've already successfully achieved the reverse connection, and all this chat was about securing the access so that it could be used as a reverse connection and nothing more)
[02:44] <escott> kristenB, i know more about the auth keys than i do about the reverse connection stuff, but its up to both ends to keep that thing alive
[02:45] <escott> kristenB, controlmaster is nice because it would be the same connection that you would be keeping alive. you wouldn't have to worry about "do i need to make a new connection, or do i need to reset the timeout on the existing one?"
[02:45] <highlander-base> wow
[02:45] <highlander-base> i'd just like to say i've always been really really against gnome and ubuntu because i thoght they oversimplified everything and didn't really provide any good innovations
[02:45] <highlander-base> but with 12.04 and unity i'm amazed
[02:45] <kristenB> escott: I see. And could I set the time to indefinite or infinity ?
[02:46] <highlander-base> i just installed in on the c omp for my mom and dad (who have never been able to grasp windows or mac or kde or gnome in the past)
[02:46] <highlander-base> and they just immediately got it, it did what they expected when they expected it
[02:46] <L3top> gsr lspci -nn | grep VGA   please.
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> highlander-base: Unity is like marmite. You love it or hate it
[02:47] <gsr> L3top, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV710 [Radeon HD 4350] [1002:954f]
[02:47] <highlander-base> and everything works right out of the box it got all of the network information all the drivers, and i now know all thier stuff is safely backed up on a cloud if something goes badly for them
[02:47] <escott> kristenB, i wouldn't put it above the half-life of your network connection between A and B, but sure you can make it big
[02:47] <caravel> hi there
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> highlander-base: i dunno about the backup thing...
[02:48] <highlander-base> actionparsnip: why? afraid of having your info on a cloud?
[02:48] <nrdb> my upgrade to 12:04 has stopped mid-upgrade ... :( ... I think it lost the internet for an extended period.. is there anyway to get it going again? ... It is in the "install the upgrades" action.
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> highlander-base: no, some folks diont backup
[02:49] <caravel> help please : I've got the alternate installer. Went for the assisted partition scheme woth full disk lvm+luks. Then I am trying to resize /boot and dmcrypt, therefore need to remove the default vg... but this seems like it cannot be done
[02:49] <caravel> looking at lvm cli tools from tty2, I can see it's gone, but the installer pretends it's still there no matter what I do...
[02:50] <highlander-base> ActionParsnip: well its the right move, i keep my files in 2 redundant places locally, i dont use a cloud because i dont like having my things out there but for most people its an easy solution to a really common problem, i dont know many people who havent lost massive amounts of personal data to a harddrive failure
[02:50] <caravel> [...] is the only solution to manually remove them and restart the whole installer ?
[02:50] <highlander-base> and its awesome that ubuntu is giving them a bit of space to do that for free built in integrated with their folders
[02:51] <caravel> [...] and then, choose manual scheme instead of partition scheme ?
[02:51] <gsr> L3top: and my /var/log/jockey.log file -> http://pastebin.com/YSv1TS9x
[02:51] <jjimm> hello, im looking to install ubuntu. I plan to use computer as simple server but i want the gui for setting up things like drivers and using web browser, how can i set up ubunutu without install things like libreoffice
[02:51] <kennydie> I WANAA RING IN A CSS SCRIM
[02:51] <L3top> gsr sorry... having some issues on my end here... one second please.
[02:52] <gsr> L3top, no worries, ping when convenient
[02:52] <kennydie> I WANAA RING IN A CSS SCRIM
[02:52] <jjimm> how
[02:52] <caravel> [...] so I removed the lvs, that's fine, then the vg says 0 lvs, looks good, but dmcrpt can't be removed because t says the vg s still there
[02:53] <caravel> [...] looks like the option to remove a vg is just missing ?
[02:55] <L3top> gsr was that the complete output of the lspci I asked for?
[02:55] <tking> i killed Movie Player bcos it wasnt responding, now i want to re-run it. When i clicked the icon in the lens it shows in panel blinks for few seconds and disappear not launches... any1 know why?
[02:55] <gsr> L3top, yes
[02:55] <escott> kristenB, apparently ControlPersist yes is indefinite
[02:55] <philsf> ActionParsnip, your tip worked. now jack sense works as expected. thank you very much
[02:56] <escott> kristenB, http://who-t.blogspot.com/2012_03_01_archive.html
[02:56] <gsr> tking, launch it from a terminal, see what it outputs
[02:56] <kristenB> escott: What I had working, before all this key stuff, was ssh -nrR 2000:127.0.0.1:22 A. I know added -i .ssh/id_rsa_untrusted, and also -f because that was always a pain in the ass to have to manually call bg and disown. When I did so, I got a warning that said Warning: remote port forwarding failed for listen port 2000".
[02:56] <tking> gsr, i don't know the name for it in terminal
[02:57] <kristenB> escott: typo:      ...I now* added...
[02:57] <escott> kristenB, i wonder if it needs to run something on the remote server to setup the port forwarding.
[02:57] <tking> gsr, i tried mplayer, also tried Movie Player
[02:58] <gsr> tking, totem
[02:58] <escott> kristenB, you might need to change /bin/false to something that setups up a netcat to forward the port manually
[02:59] <tking> gsr i typed totem nothing happened just went to nxt line (blank without my user@...PC$)
[02:59] <tking> gsr ths is what it says Timeout was reachedtking@TKing-HP-PC:~$
[03:00] <kristenB> escott: so what you're saying is that I should create a script from A, and then modify A's file 'authorized_keys' to command="script", so that B can only execute that script from ssh, and that this script is actually the one that would do port forwarding ?
[03:00] <caravel> [...] That really looks like a bug : despite even removing the pv from tty2, and re-detecting the disks, it still finds the lvm !
[03:00] <nrdb> my upgrade to 12:04 has stopped mid-upgrade ... :( ... I think it lost the internet for an extended period.. is there anyway to get it going again? ... It is in the "install the upgrades" action.... I really need to get the install finished.
[03:00] <escott> kristenB, maybe. i don't know what is happening on A when B requests the port forwarding
[03:00] <L3top> gsr I do not believe your card is supported by the fglrx drivers in 1204. I know they are not supported in the new version... trying to discern what version is what and when they dropped support for yours specifically. Some of the hd 4k series are still supported, but I am pretty sure anything older than Rx800 is no longer supported in the recent ones.
[03:01] <gsr> L3top, but I upgraded to 12.04 a few months ago, only started with this problem today
[03:01] <Sparky_> ohai lol
[03:02] <gsr> can I go back to the previous version?
[03:02] <Sparky_> I installed Ubuntu :3
[03:02] <nrdb> can I reboot and start the upgrade again?
[03:02] <escott> kristenB, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8021/allow-user-to-set-up-an-ssh-tunnel-but-nothing-else
[03:03] <L3top> That does not change the fact. Even if they worked to a degree, it is only a matter of time until they break, and I am not sure that you have been using the fglrx driver at all, simply it has been present. I think what you ran into is the various conflicts that exist using the radeon driver when fglrx is present.
[03:03] <L3top> gsr^
[03:03] <escott> kristenB, it looks like all you need is this "permitopen" declaration in your authorized_keys
[03:03] <kristenB> with or without /bin/false?
[03:04] <gsr> tking: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eog/+bug/883824 only bug I could find that looks related.
[03:04] <escott> kristenB, with. unless that doesn't work, but the command= is what is preventing them from getting shell on your machine. no-pty is also something you should add
[03:05] <kristenB> if I understand correctly, reverse ssh is just a particular case of a ssh tunnel ?
[03:05] <escott> kristenB, yes
[03:05] <L3top> gsr: I am not positive that is correct now. Let me continue to dig. I think it is only 12-5 and forward yours was dropped on.
[03:05] <kristenB> and what's a ssh tunnel then exactly ? :/
[03:06] <gsr> L3top, fglrx was definitely installed and working fine.  It was running 3D games, multiple screens and movies - i don't think that the free drivers are capable of that
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> kristenB: secures normally unsecure protocols
[03:06] <escott> kristenB, its a reverse ssh tunnel but reversed :)
[03:06] <L3top> they are... but again... still digging gsr
[03:06] <gsr> L3top, thanks, I will too - going to try to apt-get purge fglrx*, reboot, and try reinstalling.  Back in a few minutes!
[03:06] <L3top> performance varies quite a bit... but... I will figure it out gsr.
[03:06] <poooooki> found a workaround to leap second bug
[03:07] <kristenB> is it the ability, from B, to tell A to forward everything it gets to port p1 towards ip2/p2
[03:07] <escott> kristenB, what you are setting up configures things so that opening an outbound port on A:2000 takes you through a little network wormhole and you come out the other side on B:22
[03:08] <escott> kristenB, the reverse part is that you are setting all this up from B. normally you would configure your tunnel from A and start the connection A-> B instead of B-> A
[03:08] <kristenB> I see
[03:08] <escott> kristenB, your tunnel is going "upstream" on the ssh connection instead of "downstream"
[03:09] <tking> gsr thanks though u really tried
[03:09] <kristenB> and the general syntax of doing so would be with the command -L, right ?
[03:09] <escott> kristenB, yes
[03:10] <kristenB> that's all so fascinating :)
[03:10] <kristenB> ok let me try that permitopen thingy
[03:11] <escott> kristenB, i mis-spoke earlier: "opening an inbound port on A:2000 takes you through a little network wormhole and you come out the other side on B:22"
[03:11] <[dlp]> I wonder if anyone here has any suggestions. I have an interesting problem affecting audio playback (and video playback, too, where present). Sometimes playback will occur way too fast (as fast as the machine can decode, presumably); others, it'll pick sporradic moments to replay a fragment of, perhaps, 1/3 of a second 3 or 4 times in a loop before continuing as normal. CPU load remains about 95% idle throughout the underrun cycle; I haven't monitor
[03:11] <escott> kristenB, so A listens for connections on port 2000 and instead of dealing with them locally sends them on to B:22 but the come out of B as if they were from localhost
[03:11] <escott> kristenB, also dont get fired for this
[03:12] <kristenB> lol
[03:12] <leb> anyone know if ubuntu systems are affected by the ntp leap second bug?
[03:13] <akem> [dlp], what player?
[03:13] <[dlp]> akem: All of them.
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> leb: I've seen folks with SQL servers have high CPU immediately after 00:00
[03:13] <kristenB> so given our previous notations, it would be permitopen="B:22" right ?
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> leb: needing a reboot
[03:13] <[dlp]> akem: mplayer, vlc, flash (streaming vlf), audacious...
[03:13] <[dlp]> ogg123
[03:14] <leb> there seems to be a kernel crash associated with ntp trying to update the time
[03:14] <leb> http://serverfault.com/questions/403732/anyone-else-experiencing-high-rates-of-linux-server-crashes-today
[03:14] <buhman> while trying to do an apt-get update, I'm told: http://sprunge.us/AXTW
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> [dlp]: what output methods for video have you tried?
[03:14] <escott> kristenB, no it would be permitopen="localhost:2000"
[03:14] <buhman> I already have "APT::Cache-Limit "100000000";" in /etc/apt.conf
[03:14] <kristenB> escott: so given our previous notations, it would be permitopen="127.0.0.1:22" right ?
[03:14] <akem> [dlp], strange, try out with a live CD like knoppix see if you get the same problems, or Windows if you can.
[03:14] <poooooki> leb: yes
[03:14] <escott> kristenB, A is not allowing the port to be opened (based on that error message)
[03:15] <dell> hello
[03:15] <detaer> sup dell
[03:15] <detaer> are you a computer?
[03:15] <[dlp]> akem: Did you read all of my initial message?
[03:15] <dell> no i'm a person
[03:15] <escott> kristenB, in all seriousness though, a good corporate sysadmin would fire someone and then ask questions if they found out about a reverse ssh tunnel
[03:15] <dell> but i'm called my computer so
[03:16] <escott> kristenB, so be careful
[03:16] <akem> [dlp], no got only one from you in the buffer.
[03:16] <akem> sorry if i missed something then.
[03:17] <lapion> anyone been having any leapsecond issues ?
[03:17] <escott> lapion, yes
[03:17] <dell> this is the first time iḿ here people
[03:17] <kristenB> escott: thanks for the advice. I already had it setup long before though, it's just that I hadn't gone into the process of securing my own personal computer against anything else but that ssh reverse connection
[03:17] <sunshinehappy> dell, welcome
[03:17] <dell> thank you sunshine
[03:18] <dell> where goes this forum about?
[03:18] <escott> kristenB, i would feel bad if i spend a couple hours helping you out and next week you were asking for a job
[03:18] <[dlp]> akem: Sorry, I'm just being facetious. People in the forums were very dismissive to those who brought this up, so I sort of prepared myself for that.
[03:18] <sunshinehappy> dell, come to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[03:18] <[dlp]> ActionParsnip: Hang on, for Flash I don't know.
[03:18] <kristenB> escott: but it would be so much easier to find a new one with all that extra knowledge :D
[03:18] <dell> why sunshine?
[03:18] <lapion> escott, what issues do you have ?
[03:18] <escott> lapion, i havent had any. you asked if anyone has had issues, and others have
[03:19] <sunshinehappy> dell, #ubuntu is for questions & answers, #ubuntu-offtopic can talk abot anything
[03:19] <dell> oke
[03:19] <dell> en where i can found it?
[03:19] <[dlp]> ActionParsnip: For mplayer... it's using vdpau
[03:19] <lapion> maybe mythtv might be hacing some issues.. seeing as my backend has been running at load avg of 20
[03:19] <kitties> dell: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:20] <kristenB> escott: I have added permitopen localhost 2000 but it still says port can't be opened
[03:20] <[dlp]> ActionParsnip: Flash will be using whatever it uses (?).
[03:20] <Portaltech> Hi I have a newbie question I know has been answered again and again, it just seems like there's always some doubt left in my mind....here goes: I know it's hard to catch a virus especially in the wild but how about keyloggers on linux....(preferably Ubuntu?)
[03:21] <kristenB> escott: and the warning message is still the same if I remove the /bin/false part
[03:21] <escott> kristenB, if you were using controlmaster then on B if you run ps aux | grep ssh you should see an sshd process of yours. kill it. its using the old ssh configuration details, and therefore the old auth keys
[03:21] <wolfgang_> Hello i was on earlier asking about mupen64plus i got it how do i run it?
[03:22] <wolfgang_> I got it through sudo apt-get
[03:22] <kristenB> escott: that's probably because it's already in use, actually, since I'm connected to B with that solution
[03:22] <escott> kristenB, yes. that would prevent you from opening the port. try 2001
[03:23] <wolfgang_> How do i run mupen64plus? i did it with terminal but it doesn't run the rom files
[03:23] <escott> Portaltech, yes there are keyloggers. what is your question exactly?
[03:23] <xDD> Howdy - how does one go about configuring which ports are open (Using 12.04)?
[03:23] <[dlp]> ActionParsnip: Frankly, I don't think the video output mechanism is relevant: it affects audio-only playback as well. Though the video does freeze when the audio skips. I'm not sure what happens in the overrun case. I think the video runs fast as well. But I can't reproduce it at the moment. I suspect a reboot would allow me to do so.
[03:23] <sacarlson> Portaltech: as all the software you should install is opensource there are many eyes that see the code and would notice a keyloger in it
[03:24] <wolfgang_> XDD, What router do you have?
[03:24] <Portaltech> well I'm just a little worried when visiting websites
[03:24] <[dlp]> ActionParsnip: And, tbh, if a reboot does help me to reproduce the problem I'll be /really/ fucking confused.
[03:24] <sacarlson> Portaltech: with opensource we don't have to guess what an app does it's all seen in the code before it ever runs
[03:24] <wolfgang_> XDD, you should go to your default gateway in your browser
[03:24] <bazhang> [dlp], no cursing here
[03:25] <xDD> wolfgang_: One of the wrt*s, but right now I'm on the local network - Is there a builtin firewall of sorts in Ubuntu?
[03:25] <wolfgang_> XDD, yes
[03:25] <[dlp]> Sorry.
[03:25] <escott> Portaltech, modern websites and browsers open a pandora's box of problems that don't really extend beyond the browser. i would be more concerned about a local scripting attack on firefox that tries to steal control of another tab in your browser than anything else
[03:25] <wolfgang_> XDD, Did you configure your router in the internet browser?
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> [dlp]: worth a shot
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> !firewall | xDD
[03:26] <[dlp]> ActionParsnip: Indeed.
[03:26] <xDD> wolfgang_: Yep, a while ago, though. This is a fresh install (it was working before)
[03:26] <Portaltech> escott....so what a newbie like me should make sure I do with a fresh install of ubuntu?
[03:26] <wolfgang_> XDD, In terminal do "sudo ufw allow (port #)
[03:27] <wolfgang_> XDD, that should do it
[03:27] <kristenB> escott: omg it works lol.
[03:27] <escott> Portaltech, if you are browsing questionable sites do so in a browser that is NOT the browser you use for your online banking, do so in privacy mode etc...
[03:27] <xDD> wolfgang_, ActionParsnip: I'll check out ufw. Thanks!
[03:27] <wolfgang_> XDD, Np
[03:27] <escott> Portaltech, disable webgl. disable flash if you can
[03:28] <Portaltech> escott: Well on ubuntu I only have Firefox
[03:29] <r00t__> Hey guys...does anyone know if I add the backtrack repositories to ubuntu if the tools wont work? I have heard arguments for both no and yes...but no clear answers
[03:29] <escott> Portaltech, there are others you can install. chromium, chrome, epiphany, konquerer etc
[03:29] <[dlp]> Ok, given the problem is now gone at uptime = 23:32, I'm gonna see if it really is relevant: rebooting. brb
[03:29] <escott> !backtrack | r00t__
[03:29] <Portaltech> I tried looking for Chrome but it's not in the software center only chromium
[03:29] <r00t__> escott: I am not asking for backtrack support...just seeing if adding their repositories is worth it or not...
[03:29] <sacarlson> Portaltech: on firefox you can change profiles that can have different security settings or you can run anaother browser like chromeium as another method to see sites
[03:30] <escott> r00t__, i think there's a factoid for that.... lets see
[03:30] <escott> !backtrack | r00t__
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> Portaltech: you can grab the deb for chrome and install it, it will also add the google ppa :)
[03:30] <wylde> r00t__: if you want backtrack, use backtrak. Don't mix repos
[03:30] <wolfgang_> I got a N64 emulator called mupen64plus and can't get it to run roms, how would i do that?
[03:30] <Portaltech> Action where is the deb for chrome?
[03:30] <xDD> wolfgang_, ActionParsnip: Hmm... According to the gufw gui, the firewall isn't currently on...
[03:30] <r00t__> wylde: I am just wanting some software from them...jesus you guys are defensive xD
[03:30] <escott> Portaltech, there is a ppa from google
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang_: is there a config inthe app to point to the folder holding ROMs?
[03:30] <r0tha> wolfgang_: did you rean the man page
[03:30] <wolfgang_> XDD, Do sudo ufw enable
[03:31] <gsr> L3top, no joy, purge/reinstall now has Additional Drivers listing the Fglrx driver (non post-upgrade) as active - however, its still showing all the signs of being on the non-proprietary driver.
[03:31] <wolfgang_> Actionparsnip, no
[03:31] <wolfgang_> r0tha, Didn't see one
[03:31] <r0tha> naw man
[03:31] <r0tha> type
[03:31] <wylde> r00t__: their packages will very likely break your system. If you want that software and it isn't in ubuntu repos you're better off compiling from source.
[03:31] <r0tha> man programname ans ee if there's one
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang_: under configure -> rom browser
[03:32] <xDD> wolfgang_: At least right now, I'm trying to figure out why I can't ssh when I change the port (though I'll probably turn that on once this is worked out).
[03:32] <escott> Portaltech, the thing to keep in mind is that the chances of someone using a firefox 0-day to deliver exploits for ubuntu 12.04 is really low. they will use that 0-day to hit Win7. but they could use a 0-day to try and steal facebook login information, or do some weird in browser controls of other tabs
[03:32] <r00t__> wylde: oh i see
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang_: I just pulled up a screenshot?
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang_: http://offenerdesktop.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/spiele-mupen64plus-001.png
[03:32] <L3top> still working on it... one min gsr
[03:32] <Portaltech> escott thanks for the info
[03:33] <sacarlson> xDD: you change the port on ssh and can't get in from wan (out site internet)?
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang_: is it not there any more?
[03:33] <wolfgang_> XDD, Don't know enough to help you further to turn on firewall in terminal type "sudo ufw enable" and to enable a port i told you sorry.
[03:33] <escott> Portaltech, so keep your questionable websites constrained to a browser profile you dont have to trust
[03:33] <Portaltech> sacarlson thanks also
[03:33] <xDD> sacarlson: Actually, from internal
[03:33] <kristenB> escott: so if I resume all the steps: ssh-keygen, then change name to untrusted, then no password, then cat id_rsa_untrusted.pub >> authorized_keys, then chmod 600 authorized_keys, then scp id_rsa_untrusted to B, then change authorized_keys to command="/bin/false',permitopen="localhost:2000",from="Bip",no-X11-forwarding,no-agent-forwarding ; and then from B, ssh -R. Am I forgetting something ?
[03:33] <Portaltech> action I just installed thank you
[03:33] <sacarlson> xDD: maybe after you changed the port you didn't restart ssh-server ?
[03:33] <wolfgang_> actionparsnip, the only way i could figure out to run it was from terminal so nothing like that.
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang_: there should be a GUI to my knowledge, not used muppen in ages
[03:34] <xDD> sacarlson: Don't think that's it - I changed it back to 22 and restarted in the same way and it began working again.
[03:34] <escott> kristenB, well you want to change the options in the Authkey before you give the remote host the key, but yes, thats the full process
[03:34] <nrdb> my upgrade to 12:04 has stopped mid-upgrade ... :( ... I think it lost the internet for an extended period.. is there anyway to get it going again? ... It is in the "install the upgrades" action.... I really need to get the install finished.
[03:35] <sacarlson> xDD: so you verified it listening with sudo netstat -pant ;  after you changed it?
[03:35] <wolfgang_> Actionparsnip, i got it from the terminal by typing "sudo apt-get install mupen64plus"
[03:35] <wylde> r00t__: if you wanted to have backtrack on hand, you can actually keep the iso on the / or /boot partition and boot it from grub2
[03:35] <escott> kristenB, also... thanks. that was a fun one to work through
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang_: if you run: mupen64plus    does it run?
[03:35] <kristenB> escott: thank you very much to you sir
[03:35] <xDD> sacarlson: I did not! That sounds like the advice I'm looking for :). I'll report back.
[03:35] <wolfgang_> Actionparsnip how do i take a screenshot?
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: stop the upgrade then run the !aptfix factoid commands
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang_: press PrintScrn just like in Windows.....
[03:36] <kristenB> escott: may I ask another question ? :)
[03:36] <wolfgang_> actionparsnip, ok where do i paste it?
[03:36] <escott> kristenB, sure
[03:36] <xDD> sacarlson: I see a tcp LISTEN sshd at 0.0.0.0:myport
[03:37] <kristenB> escott: so now that this connection is set up, I would like to access C (which can only be accessed through B) from A, in order to do a rsync. How could I do that ?
[03:37] <wolfgang_> Where do i paste a screen shot?
[03:37] <nrdb> ActionParsnip, I don't understand ... what are those?
[03:37] <Novasun> im running liveusb there is an install linux icon that keeps coming up I go into config editor >apps>nautilus>desktop but the ability to make the icon hidden is not listed
[03:37] <L3top> !pastebin | wolfgang, there is a link in this factoid
[03:38] <escott> kristenB, in A's ~/.ssh/config file you can setup a Host C section which references the tunnel you have to B
[03:38] <[dlp]> Well... I'm not sure the reboot had an effect. I have just seen the skipping issue. Not happening a much as I expected, though.
[03:38] <kristenB> it's an equivalent of the -W option, right ?
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | nrdb
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang_: use imgur or imageshack or somthing similar
[03:39] <escott> kristenB, http://blogs.perl.org/users/smylers/2011/08/ssh-productivity-tips.html scroll down to the onward connections bit
[03:39] <escott> kristenB, rather the jumping through servers bit
[03:40] <escott> kristenB, with the ProxyCommand bit. I'd love to help set that up, but its time for bed
[03:40] <kristenB> escott: okay :)
[03:40] <kristenB> escott: well thank you very much for your help.
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: obviously close the upgrade app first :)
[03:40] <[dlp]> It's happening quite a bit now.
[03:41] <adsfdsafd> iep
[03:41] <Sithregal> So, I am a computer science major, yet I have next to no unix/linux experience. I am going to try and set up an Ubuntu VM for tinkering. Any general advice?
[03:42] <[dlp]> Doesn't seem to happen when the machine's under load, either.
[03:42] <[dlp]> Really bizarre.
[03:42] <L3top> gsr: this is particularly annoying. I can find NOTHING which explains which ati driver version (ie 12-4) the ubuntu package (ie 2:8.960) implies. apt-cache show fglrx  doesn't even explain... very annoying.
[03:43] <wolfgang_> actionparsnip, http://nuclearmuffin88.imgur.com/all/
[03:43] <wolfgang_> actionparsnip, thats what it's like for me.
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang_: you need to make the image publicly available
[03:44] <[dlp]> Oh, this is ridiculous.
[03:44] <wolfgang_> actionparsnip, how?
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang_: use imageshack
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang_: bit easier
[03:44] <jiohdi> Sithregal,  a live cd/dvd may give more of an actual feel than a vm
[03:45] <wolfgang_> actionparsnip, file:///home/wolfgang/Pictures/mupen%20thing.png
[03:45] <[dlp]> Ok, I'm going to write a "stress program".
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang_: that will only work if I have local acces to your system
[03:45] <wolfgang_> actionparsnip, How do i make public?
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang_: http://imageshack.us/
[03:46] <wolfgang_> actionparsnip, i did that
[03:46] <wolfgang_> actionparsnip, file:///home/wolfgang/Pictures/mupen%20thing.png
[03:47] <jiohdi> wolfbyte, file = on your computer, imageshack.us should give you an http: share
[03:47] <RAITAR> How to do this grep 'EE\|WW' /var/log/Xorg.0.log,Thank you.I'm a trainee
[03:47] <wolfgang_> actioparsnip, http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/404/mupenthing.png/
[03:48] <wolfgang_> actionparsnip, That's it
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang_: if you give it a ROM, dos it run?
[03:50] <jiohdi> RAITAR, if you type that into a terminal command line and nothing comes up, either what you are searching for does not exist or the log files does not exist
[03:50] <wolfgang_> actionparsnip, How would i go about doing that?
[03:50] <cloocky> Hey everyone...I installed teamviewer7 but now I cant figure out how to uninstall it...wat do?
[03:51] <Mandalord> cloocky: how do you install it
[03:51] <wolfgang_> cloocky, sudo apt-get remove teamviewer7
[03:51] <RAITAR> maybe
[03:51] <cloocky> mandalord: I downloaded a .deb file from their website and use the software center to install it.
[03:51] <Mandalord> uhm
[03:51] <wolfgang_> cloocky, or go to software center and find it then click remove
[03:51] <cloocky> wolfgang_: it only gives a "reinstall" option
[03:52] <wolfgang_> cloocky, I don't know then
[03:52] <wolfgang_> cloocky, sorry
[03:52] <cloocky> wait...apt-get remove is working...thanks!
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang_: treat it like any other CLI comman d
[03:52] <wolfgang_> cloocky, yor welcome
[03:52] <Novasun> http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?49393-Hiding-the-Ubiquity%28Install%29-icon-on-liveusb-persitent  forget it I have found how to hide the liveusb install icon annoyance
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang_: mupen64plus /path/to/filename
[03:52] <Mandalord> cloocky: or run this command and tell me the result "dpkg --get-selections | grep teamviewer"
[03:52] <wolfgang_> Actionparsnip ok hold on
[03:53] <kristenB> Can someone pick up from where escott left regarding helping me with my ssh issues ?
[03:53] <[dlp]> Well... I've put the system under a high CPU load. Audio playback unaffected.
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> Novasun: what, just delete it...
[03:53] <[dlp]> Except for the odd instance where it does skip (which happens regardless of whether the system is loaded or not)./
[03:53] <Novasun> everytime I reboot it comes back
[03:54] <Novasun> brb
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> Novasun: do you have persistence setup?
[03:55] <Novasun> nope
[03:55] <phunyguy> Novasun, you ever been on Kali?
[03:55] <wolfgang_> actionparsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1068805/
[03:55] <phunyguy> Novasun: nickname is familliar
[03:56] <wolfgang_> actionparsnip, that is the outcome
[03:56] <Novasun> nope just randomly chosen due to hobby
[03:56] <phunyguy> ahh,  carry on then. :)
[03:56] <Mandalord> wolfgang_ try extract the rom and run the rom inside .zip file
[03:57] <wolfgang_> Mandalord, ok hold on ill try that
[03:59] <wolfgang_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1068808/
[03:59] <wolfgang_> mandalord, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1068808/
[04:00] <wolfgang_> mandalord, didn't work
[04:01] <wolfgang_> mandalord, actionparsnip, what do i do?
[04:03] <user01> is there anyway to make wget try again if it gets a message other than 200 OK?  like every so often it gets a 500 error and doing it a 2nd time succeeds for me
[04:03] <phunyguy> user01, could write a script, grep the output, and loop if failed.
[04:04] <cgh> connect
[04:04] <wolfgang_> actionparsnip, mandalord: what do i do?
[04:04] <user01> i would think wget would just have an option for it though
[04:04] <phunyguy> doubt it.
[04:05] <phunyguy> OK user01.. a simple manpage lookup
[04:05] <phunyguy> -t,  --tries=NUMBER            set number of retries to NUMBER (0 unlimits).
[04:06] <Mandalord> wolfgang_: not sure what happen, can you "ls /home/wolfgang/Downloads/Zelda-O.zip/"
[04:06] <wolfgang_> mandalord, says not a directory? but it's there?
[04:07] <wolfgang_> D:
[04:07] <Mandalord> wolfgang_: oh, did you extract the .zip file
[04:08] <Mandalord> extract it into a folder
[04:08] <wolfgang_> Mandalord, No
[04:08] <wolfgang_> mandalord, you mean move?
[04:08] <kristenB> wolfgang_: no I think he means unzip [tab]
[04:08] <wolfgang_> ok
[04:09] <Mandalord> wolfgang_: no, i mean EXTRACT, its a .zip file, you should extract it
[04:09] <wolfgang_> ok i did now try?
[04:10] <Mandalord> did you extract it? unzip it?
[04:12] <wolfgang_> Got it running thank you how do i change the controls?
[04:12] <wolfgang_> Mandlord, how do i change the controls now its running?
[04:13] <Zylek> quick random question: my computer says "processor 100% in use" how do i check to find out specifically what is using it all up?
[04:13] <andrewaclt> top
[04:13] <Mandalord> wolfgang_: it is running? I dont know how to change controls. You should read manpage
[04:13] <phunyguy> Zylek: top, htop, system monitor
[04:13] <Zylek> ty
[04:14] <wolfgang_> mandalord, I cant find help on man page
[04:14] <user01> phunyguy, the man pages doesnt specify what  it means as successful
[04:14] <user01> phunyguy,  hopefully only 200 responses
[04:14] <phunyguy> I would think so as well
[04:15] <user01> phunyguy, well ill know in about 15 minutes
[04:15] <Zylek> grrrr
[04:15] <Zylek> it is npviewer.bin
[04:15] <Zylek> what the heck is that
[04:15] <OerHeks> wolfgang_, then maybe you can't change controls
[04:15] <Zylek> it's hoggin' up the computer
[04:15] <wolfgang_> Oerheks, ok
[04:16] <kristenB> If i had add up all the processes displayed memory usage of 'ps aux', I don't get the sum displayed in free -m > memory used. Why is that ?
[04:16] <wolfgang_> mandalord,actionparsnip: thank you for your time bye i got it from here
[04:16] <SadlyMistaken> hello there, i just plugged a hard disk, and i can't write in it.. it say i don't have permissions. In terminal I just wrote 'sudo chmod 777 -R' to the harddisk and it doesn't work, what can i do?
[04:17] <Zylek> can i just force kill all of the npviewer.bin files?
[04:17] <Zylek> or will that make my computer explode? haha
[04:17] <kristenB> If i add up all the memory usage of 'ps aux', I don't get the same number as free > memory used. Why is that ?
[04:19] <Zylek> OMG
[04:19] <Zylek> my computer is back to normal
[04:19] <Zylek> the cursed npviewer.bin
[04:19] <Zylek> is a curse
[04:24] <witeshark> quick 12.04 question; what's preferred for GUI cleaning? Ubuntu tweak or synaptic?
[04:25] <[dlp]> Right... just experienced the "playback too fast" issue. There /is/ a slight increase in CPU usage (~10%), mostly to kmix, pulseaudio and chrome (which is the source, using Flash).
[04:25] <[dlp]> Killed KMix part way throguh.
[04:26] <[dlp]> Nothing really changed. pulseaudio became top consumer
[04:26] <[dlp]> And now it's playing ok again :/
[04:27] <[dlp]> The media player flash app complained of insufficient bandwidth a couple of times, too. lol
[04:27] <[dlp]> Insufficient bandwidth to play into the future :D
[04:28] <[dlp]> I'm just gonna have to let the system run and see if uptime really is relevant.
[04:29] <[dlp]> *VERY* strange.
[04:30] <PlowRox> anybody know how to get the speaker  icon back to the task bar?
[04:35] <gsr> L3top, tried installing the drivers from the official ati site, still no joy.  im thinking your original idea might be on the money
[04:37] <L3top> Ubuntu developers explained as well that I am looking for the information on the wrong side of the fence. AMD only advertizes their catalyst version (12-4), and the actual fglrx version is what is indicated in the repo. Getting documentation from AMD is not... intuitive. Thier "release notes" are step by step installation instructions. Do you currently have their version installed?
[04:37] <PlowRox> ati sux
[04:37] <L3top> gsr^
[04:37] <kristenB> Does anybody know why the sum of all the processes memory usage in 'ps aux' and the sum displayed in htop    is different from 'free' > memory used ?
[04:38] <PlowRox> i have an $800 video card that worthless in linux thanks to ati and they heads up they ass holes attitude
[04:38] <L3top> kristenB: because some onboard devices cache memory not held in process?
[04:39] <kristenB> L3top: would that account for a few GB difference ?
[04:39] <PlowRox> try ps ax
[04:39] <L3top> GB? I would say no kristenB.
[04:39] <kristenB> L3top: then what could account for that
[04:40]  * L3top was just taking a stab at that... any further conjecture has a much slimmer chance at being correct.
[04:41] <Wingede> kristenB, onboard devices will take up memory, the poorer the design the more memory they generally take and you will loose within your os.  But if the sum is gb's that doesn't sound quite right.
[04:41] <L3top> gsr do you have the driver from teh ATI site installed currently? Because I would appreciate it if you would run a couple of quick queries to determine what version fglrx it is... and you should  try lsmod | grep fglrx
[04:41] <kristenB> Wingede:      ps aux | awk '{s+=$4} END {print s}'     = 18
[04:41] <PlowRox> as long as the box runs.. i dont worry about totals of ram... thats like worring about the bits your mouse drops while scrolling
[04:42] <L3top> Could be a security issue PlowRox... in theory.
[04:42] <L3top> Worth figuring out
[04:42] <PlowRox> un plug it
[04:42] <gsr> L3top, uninstalled it :(.  I'd do it again, but its bed time for me :(.
[04:43] <PlowRox> if the program is malisious it will go postal trying to get online
[04:43] <L3top> No worries. i will work it out... night gsr
[04:43] <gsr> L3top,  Thanks for looking into it though.  ill be back on here tomorrow if your around.
[04:43] <L3top> PlowRox: That simply is not accurate.
[04:43] <PlowRox> then dont worry about it
[04:43] <PlowRox> :)
[04:43] <L3top> That is also inaccurate.
[04:43] <PlowRox> sigh
[04:44] <kristenB> so from ps's point of view, 18% of memory or so is used. Yet with free, it shows almost 100% is used
[04:44] <L3top> brb.
[04:44] <Vodric> how can I run an exe as another user from terminal?
[04:44] <PlowRox> google it.. unless the cpu is prcessing in that area of missing ram..its not used
[04:45] <PlowRox> could just be garbage collection +/-
[04:46] <PlowRox> i just want my speaker icon back... so i can turn on and off my sound
[04:46] <PlowRox> and no u cant enable it from settings
[04:46] <PlowRox> ...
[04:51] <mah454> Hello
[04:51] <mah454> I need change default gnome-shell theme and icon theme for all users , How can do this ?
[04:51] <mah454> All new users
[04:54] <[dlp]> Well, changing clocksource did not help.
[04:54] <[dlp]> Didn't really expect it to, tbh.
[04:55] <[dlp]> Hmm.
[04:59] <user01> phunyguy, nope i got 5 server errors with -t=0
[04:59] <user01> phunyguy, and it didnt matter
[05:00] <phunyguy> nice.
[05:00] <user01> 5/5000
[05:00] <user01> but for error 500 on 5 it didnt show
[05:00] <user01> or it didnt retry indefinitely
[05:01] <phunyguy> sounds like a bug
[05:03] <Grant_P> Hey anyone notice kernel 3.2.0-26-generic breaks sound while watching video's. The sound skips every minute or so, rolled back the kernel to 3.2.0-25-generic and it's all good.
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> Grant_P: tried:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*   wait 10 seconds and reboot
[05:04] <Grant_P> ActionParsnip: Can you tell me what that does exactly?
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> Grant_P: it stops teh pulse process then deletes the config, the 10 second wait allows the process to restart which wil then regenerate the folder and file to default the settings
[05:07] <aeon-ltd> Grant_P: in short, a 'reset'
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> Grant_P: the reboot is just for good measure
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> Grant_P: great first step for sound issues
[05:09] <Grant_P> ActionParsnip: aeon-ltd: will try, thanks.
[05:11] <dcdog> I am trying to install ubuntu on a powerbook g4 but I need a bit of help
[05:11] <dcdog> anyone here done that type of thing ?
[05:12] <mah454> I need change default gnome-shell theme and icon theme for all users , How can do this ?
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> dcdog: there is a PPC ISO of Precise you can use
[05:12] <dcdog> i've already got the CD burnt and I am in the install part now
[05:12] <dcdog> the part I am having problems with is the partitioning
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> dcdog: are you setting up a dual boot?
[05:13] <dcdog> no, I am just trying to set it up on an external drive
[05:13] <dcdog> single boot
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> not done that myself, is the drive detectable in the setup as a drive you can setup?
[05:14] <dcdog> yes, it seems to register ok
[05:14] <dcdog> right now I am at the window which says "Installation type"
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> dcdog: I'd choose the 'Somethig else' option
[05:15] <dcdog> yes, that is what I did, I am now at the window where I can see the partitions
[05:15] <Richard_Cavell> Am I right in thinking that 10.04 uses GNOME 2 and will do until 2015?
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> dcdog: ok then you will need to least 2 partitions. 1 for / and one for swap, how much RAM does the system have?
[05:16] <dcdog> 2 gigs of ram
[05:16] <dcdog> how much space do I need to allow for swap ?
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> Richard_Cavell: Lucid desktop is EOL in April next year
[05:17] <Vodric> I am trying to set myself as owner of a folder using chown -R root /folder. it says operation not permitted. I cannot copy files to this folder, etc. Any help please? I also tried chown -R root:root /folder
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> dcdog: then set swap as 2.2Gb and the rest as / formatted Ext4
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> Vodric: is the partition mounted writable?
[05:17] <Richard_Cavell> ActionParsnip: well let me rephrase the question.  I want a non-bloated Linux distro that runs GNOME 2 to run in vbox.
[05:17] <Vodric> as far as I know? I created the folder
[05:17] <dcdog> ok, let me do that
[05:17] <Richard_Cavell> that is still supported, but doesn't have to be bleeding edge
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> Richard_Cavell: Xubuntu or lubuntu are nice and lean
[05:17] <Vodric> with mkdir
[05:17] <Richard_Cavell> ActionParsnip: I said GNOME 2
[05:18] <Vodric> and I downloaded things to it
[05:18] <dcdog> hold on a sec while I do what you told me to do
[05:18] <wolfgang_> My screen is really zoomed in!
[05:18] <wolfgang_> what do i do?
[05:18] <Vodric> I seem to have access in terminal, but not in gui?
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> Vodric: thats irrelevant, if the partition is mounted read only, not even root can write to it (afaik)
[05:18] <wolfgang_> its all really big
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang_: was it ok a little while ago?
[05:18] <OerHeks> Richard_Cavell, gnome2 is EOL.
[05:18] <Vodric> Yes it is, I have tested just now. I can do anything in terminal, but in gui im getting errors?
[05:19] <wolfgang_> Actionparsnip, it did this after i closed out of mupen64plus
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> Richard_Cavell: gnome2 is dead, you could use mint which isn't supported here which uses Mate which is a fork of gnome2
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang_: what video chip do you use?
[05:19] <Richard_Cavell> ActionParsnip: I'm in denial about GNOME 2 being dead.
[05:19] <wolfgang_> Actionparsnip, What do you mean?
[05:20] <kristenB> can someone help me with ssh please ?
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang_: the chip on your video card, what is it? ATi? nvidia? intel?
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> Richard_Cavell: go ask in #gnome and you'll see
[05:21] <dksaini> hi  gm
[05:21] <dcdog> ok, I got those partitions set up, I am going to press the button which say install
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> Richard_Cavell: there are forks but they aren't supported here, xfce looks a lot like Gnome2
[05:21] <wolfgang_> actionparsnip, could not see all of word nividia not sure
[05:21] <dcdog> I have highlighed he main one as root, is that ok ?
[05:21] <babalabon> I used to be a hardcore ubuntu user years ago, I've forgotten everything, where is the settings and options for firefox??
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> dcdog: ok as long as you set the right disk up and have a / partition and swap, it will install to the usb
[05:21] <dksaini> how  i can use koha
[05:21] <babalabon> I dont even remember how to install things
[05:22] <dcdog> ok, here goes
[05:22] <babalabon> Where is my terminal??
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> babalabon: use software centre to install stuff
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> babalabon: in dash, or press CTRLA+LT+T
[05:22] <wolfgang_> babalabon, ctr+alt+t
[05:22] <dcdog> shit, it says No Newworld boot partition was found
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> dcdog: the highlight is irrelevant, the installer will see the mount points you set
[05:23] <nanai> hey threre'
[05:23] <OerHeks> babalabon, focus to firefox, then the top panel will show file-edit-etc
[05:23] <nanai> fuck u all assoles
[05:23] <wolfgang_> nanai, chill out
[05:23] <Richard_Cavell> ActionParsnip: good idea, I'll ask in #gnome
[05:24] <dcdog> its saying the yaboot loader requires an Apple_bootstrap partition of at least 819k in size
[05:24] <OerHeks> nanai, please /join ##english to learn writing.
[05:24] <nanai> hey wolfgang
[05:24] <wolfgang_> nanai, Why you so pissy?
[05:24] <nanai> i m new to bt
[05:24] <nanai> i need some help
[05:24] <wolfgang_> nanai, what?
[05:24] <nanai> i m sorry for that
[05:24] <Novasun> most guides for these issues would be more effective if people added pictures to explain how to fix a problem rather then text or a video of it
[05:24] <OerHeks> !backtrack | nanai
[05:24] <wolfgang_> nanai, hold on i have to restart my comp be right back
[05:25] <nanai> fuck it
[05:25] <nanai> :(
[05:26] <nanai> hey alFReD-NSH
[05:26] <kwtm2> !mint
[05:26] <wolfgang_> nani what was your prob?
[05:27] <wolfgang_> nanai, what was the prob?
[05:27] <nanai> was ??
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> Novasun: the problems can be vast and wide, so not really practical
[05:27] <wolfgang_> nanai, You fixed?
[05:27] <nanai> nothing jus joined here
[05:27] <wolfgang_> nanai, oh ok
[05:27] <Novasun> well adding video + image helps the learning curb is all im saying
[05:27] <nanai> so wss up
[05:27] <kwtm2> hmm... mint channel info from ubottu not accurate; I'm one of 2 people there ...
[05:27] <dksaini> how i can ILS using koha
[05:27] <wolfgang_> nanai, what was your question?
[05:28] <OerHeks> joining irc as root is a bad idea, nanai
[05:28] <nanai> how can i use bt to learn about security
[05:28] <nanai> ?
[05:28] <wolfgang_> nanai click my name
[05:28] <nanai> do i need any coding skills
[05:28] <nanai> ?
[05:28] <wolfgang_> nanai, in top left it should be red
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> nanai: i'd use ubuntu first and learn the OS you are using
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> nanai: just using backtrack won't teach you anything about security
[05:29] <alkisg> Does Ubuntu ever run `apt-get clean` by itself or from some GUI, or do I have to run it manually from the console periodically?
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> nanai: you also need to read about networking and how network stuff works
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: you can run:  sudo apt-get autoclean     and debs will not be retained between installs
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> nanai: I suggest you ask stuff in #backtrack-linux  where your distro is supported
[05:30] <alkisg> ActionParsnip: so users that don't user the command line and use an LTS version of Ubuntu, might end up with e.g. 10 Gb on /var/apt/cache/archives, right?
[05:30] <alkisg> *use
[05:31] <dcdog> parsnip, I set up the newworld partition but it still doesn't want to install
[05:31] <Nicekiwi_> interesting.. I set FlightGear to locate my aircraft to my local Airport (on the list) and it dumped me in the ocean :P
[05:32] <dcdog> the installer said there were conflicting files and could not continue
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: its nothing to do with LTS and non-LTS
[05:32] <dcdog> now I am back at the Installation type window
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: its a setting for apt-get
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: you can run:  sudo apt-get clean    and clean the apt cache
[05:33] <sunshinehappy> vidalia can't connect to the debian-tor instance of tor that's launched by init, if I kill it vidalia can launch its own tor and work fine: How can I get it so I don't have to kill the debian-tor tor after starting up?
[05:33] <alkisg> ActionParsnip: LTS == people keep it for many years, because you said that the cache is not retained between installs
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: you get the same with Windows, look in %WINDIR% and show hidden files, look at the folders starting with a dollar sign
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: if you run: sudo apt-get autoclean THEN it won't be retained
[05:34] <alkisg> ActionParsnip: I'm just looking to see if there's a GUI way to do apt-get clean, otherwise I'll put a menu in my teacher-supporting app
[05:34] <alkisg> (that runs apt-get clean fro them)
[05:34] <alkisg> (or autoclean, or autoremove, etc)
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: not sure, I've not used GUI for package stuff in years, takes too long to do anything
[05:34] <alkisg> Me too :)
[05:35] <jnb> how do I install an autorun file within my documents with root privledges
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> jnb: what is an autorun file?
[05:36] <jnb> printer softwre
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> jnb: is tis a windows file by any chance?
[05:36] <jnb> software
[05:36] <jnb> no
[05:36] <jnb> It a standard linux file containing multiple drivers
[05:36] <wolfgang_> Actionparsnip, I got mupen64plus running do you have any idea how to change controls? it says on web site that you do it in config file but i can't find the part where you change the controls? would i add it in?
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> jnb: what is the filename please?
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang_: like I said earlier...I haven't used it in years
[05:37] <wolfgang_> Actionparsnip, ok.
[05:37] <jnb> Unified Linux Driver
[05:37] <jnb>  from Samsung
[05:37] <jnb> I log in with sudo -i
[05:37] <jnb> however that is only good for the terminal windo
[05:37] <jnb> window
[05:38] <jnb> I need root privileges outside the terminal window
[05:38] <jnb> the drivers with in Ubuntu work work
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> jnb: you do know there is a repo for those drivers....
[05:39] <jnb> no I dont know
[05:40] <jnb> this is for a samsung ml-2160 wireless printer
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> jnb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341621
[05:40] <jnb> I am installing the printer via the network
[05:40] <diverdude> How of is contents of /tmp deleted?
[05:40] <dcdog> parsnip, I think I might have to start over again
[05:40] <Novasun> they delete auto on reset
[05:42] <diverdude> How often is contents of /tmp deleted?
[05:42] <jnb> how could i execute the install with root privileges
[05:42] <MissVera> diverdude, i thought it was everytime you rebooted?
[05:43] <dcdog> what kind of format should the swap area and the apple bootload area ?
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> jnb: add the priner and install the samsungmfp-driver, samsungmfp-data and samsungmfp-scanner packages
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> jnb: run it with sudo
[05:45] <jnb> @thank Action, however I would like to click on the file in my download folder and install. I am a newbie how do I go about accomplising the follow.  Basically install an file with root privileges.
[05:45] <MissVera> Does ext4 work for Xubuntu?
[05:46] <littlebearspa> I've used ubuntu since the beginning - now with 12.04LTS it won't work - says internal error and screen goes blank - video card is nvidia 6150 le.  any thoughts?
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> jnb: is it a single file only?
[05:47] <ChogyDan> littlebearspa: have you looked at the Xorg.0.log file?
[05:47] <ChogyDan> MissVera: I think ext4 works for any Ubuntu
[05:48] <littlebearspa> ChogyDan: no - what would I look for?
[05:48] <Novasun> littlelebear is it x64 or x82?
[05:48] <ChogyDan> littlebearspa: in /var/log/Xorg.0.log   look for errors
[05:48] <littlebearspa> Novasun: 32
[05:48] <MissVera> ChogyDan: I'mjust having to use Gparted, and I've done this...Once before. Trying to remember things :x
[05:49] <jnb> @ yes Action a single file only sorry it took me so long to reply stepped away
[05:49] <Novasun> http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/41580
[05:49] <Novasun> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/295.20/README/index.html
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> jnb: its a simple command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1068889/
[05:49] <littlebearspa> Novasun: and ChogyDan: thanks!
[05:49] <MissVera> I cant seem to format one of the partitions though :/
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> jnb: try those 3 commands
[05:50] <Novasun> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[05:50] <Novasun> then   type sudo apt-get update
[05:50] <Novasun> then type sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> !who | Novasun
[05:50] <jnb> thanks action
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> jnb: that's all that site says...
[05:50] <jnb> however in the near future
[05:51] <jnb> is there a sudo command I can run to activate the autoinsatller
[05:51] <MissVera> Does anyone know what would cause GParted to not allow you to delete or format a partition?
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> jnb: what is the name of the file and where is it located?
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> jnb: case very sensitive
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> jnb: if you must do it the hard way, I can play
[05:52] <jnb> home/download/unified linux driver
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> jnb: do you mean /home/yourusername/Download/unified linux driver
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> jnb: is the file literally caled 'unified linux driver'
[05:52] <jnb> yes
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> jnb: same case, and with the spaces?
[05:53] <jnb> yes
[05:53] <erica647> Anyone been able to get the battery indicator working in the top bar on Ubuntu 12.04?
[05:53] <jnb> sorry no spaces
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> jnb: ok once more
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> jnb: what is the name of the file and where is it located?
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> jnb: the case, spaces and all that stuff is VERY important
[05:54] <jnb> cdroot folder the file is called autorun
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> jnb: Linux is 100% case sensitiove
[05:54] <jnb> I created a root log in and double clicked on the file to install
[05:54] <jnb> I later removed the root log-in
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> jnb: so it's in ~/Downloads/cdroot/autorun
[05:55] <jnb> how can I give myself the permissions to install this file by just double clicking
[05:55] <jnb> @Action yes
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> jnb: i'm trying but you can't give the detail I need
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> jnb: chmod +x  ~/Downloads/cdroot/autorun && gksudo ~/Downloads/cdroot/autorun
[05:56] <jnb> @Action what more info do you need
[05:56] <Nanaki_Lion> Hi all. I got a weird problem with my Wireless connection. It does fully connect to my laptop, my router reconisze it, yet I have totaly no internet with it. No firewalls are running. Right now I am connected to my router via cable. What must i do so my wireless connection goes over the net again. This problem I only have since 21.04
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> jnb: run taht as ONE command and it will install
[05:56] <jnb> ok perfect will copy and past
[05:56] <jnb> paste
[05:56] <Nanaki_Lion> oops 12.04 i mean
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> jnb: you don't actually need the file at all, there is a PPA with the driver which will install for you but you seem completely hell bent on using this file you have
[05:57] <jnb> what is ppa
[05:58] <jnb> I was trying to mimic the priviledges given to a root user when he logs in.
[05:58] <jnb> when I enabled root log in all i had to do was double click with left mouse
[05:58] <ChogyDan> jnb: you should use the ppa, it is better
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> jnb: its a 3rd party source for packages and it will allow you to install the packages using software centre
[05:58] <jnb> what is ppa
[05:58] <jnb> ok will install now
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> jnb: yes but you are now running the file as user, so you only have user acces
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> jnb: so when your user double clicks the file it runs as user which doesn't have enough access to install it
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> jnb: that's why sudo and gksudo exist
[05:59] <Novasun> ubuntu totem-xine can work for autoplay default
[05:59] <jnb> sudo and gksudo seems to work within the terminal windows only
[06:00] <Novasun> if you modify fstab then back it up first
[06:00] <jnb> i looked for ppa is software center and nothing came up
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> jnb: you can run gksudo on its own then point it at the file you want to run
[06:00] <jnb> I tried that browse button and nothing happened
[06:00] <jnb> will try again now
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> jnb: the pastebin I gave you has 3 commands, one adds the ppa, the 2nd adds the key and the second installs the packages
[06:00] <snap_> hey, I'm getting some errors from dpkg when trying to install packages saying that I have corrupt packages and I have't been able to track down anything to fix this.  Here is output: http://pastebin.com/WLBWieY0  Anyone have any ideas?
[06:01] <Novasun> CDDE in software center might help if you cant read a cd
[06:01] <jnb> ok
[06:02] <jnb> Action the gksud doesn't allow me to browse to the file
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> jnb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1068896/  I missed a step
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> jnb: you can run:  gksudo ~/Downloads/cdroot/autorun
[06:03] <Space-Duck> Anyone know how to install sqlite3 for use in php?
[06:03] <Corey> Yes.
[06:03] <Space-Duck> I'm trying to install sqlite3 and use it in PHP. I installed the sqlite3 packages and then followed these steps ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8039665&postcount=6 ) to add the extension to apache. and now when I run my php I get this...I'm trying to install sqlite3 and use it in PHP. I installed the sqlite3 packages and then followed these steps ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8039665&postcount=6 ) to add the extension
[06:03] <Space-Duck> to apache. and now when I run my php I get this...
[06:03] <Space-Duck> PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/sqlite3.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/sqlite3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0
[06:04] <jnb> @action thanks for your help
[06:04] <Corey> Space-Duck: Crap approach.  php5-sqlite  is all you need.
[06:04] <iceroot> Space-Duck: how you installed it? apt-get?
[06:05] <iceroot> Space-Duck: sudo apt-get install php5-sqlite
[06:05] <Space-Duck> iceroot, I used the ubuntu software center
[06:05] <zastaph> anyone running ubuntu natively on a macbook air/pro ? Is it cumbersome to setup the dualboot through EFI and would it be a better option just to use vbox?
[06:05] <Space-Duck> does php5-sqlite have sqlite3?
[06:05] <Nanaki_Lion> I am trying to fix my Wifi that refuses to go on the internet, yet connect to my router. What must I do to get it on the internet? No firewalls used so it is not blocked.
[06:06]  * caravel got around the alternate/partition manager issue mentioned earlier -- "of course" :) -- once a pv is created via assisted lvm+luks, it just can't be "removed" within the same install session -> abort install, start over, manual partionning... ?!
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> Nanaki_Lion: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc    please
[06:06] <Corey> Nanaki_Lion: Is a default gateway being set?
[06:06] <mbleigh> hey all, i'm trying to set up dual boot win/ubuntu on my new asus zenbook prime but i'm having boot loader issues, can anyone help?
[06:06] <caravel> [...] pvremove works from tty2, but the installer won't see any change
[06:06] <iceroot> Space-Duck: it has the sqlite extension matching your php version
[06:06] <Nanaki_Lion> Actionparsnip: one sec
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> Nanaki_Lion: thanks
[06:07] <iceroot> Space-Duck: libsqlite3-0 (>= 3.7.4)
[06:07] <iceroot> Space-Duck: so yes, its using sqlite3 with the correct php extention for php5
[06:07] <bart__> zastaph, Linus Tarvolds runs his linux on a macbook pro
[06:08] <zastaph> bart, I bet he does :) but it's not just point and click to set it up.. I've seen some guides
[06:08] <Nanaki_Lion> yes default gateway is set correct. but your line only gives me precise (if you need to enter it in terminal atleast
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> Nanaki_Lion: can you ping 8.8.8.8
[06:10] <Nanaki_Lion> Actionparsnip: where can i do that best? mind you i am right now connected via cable. so a ping is no use. As said i got totaly no internet via my Wifi, yet it connects to the router.
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> Nanaki_Lion: i'd go for gnnome-terminal   there is no 'best'
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> Nanaki_Lion: ping over the wifi
[06:12] <ernie4chan> a
[06:13]  * caravel good sunday ^^
[06:13] <Nanaki_Lion> brb then, need to pull the cable from my laptop to be able to ping like that.
[06:15] <Nanaki_Lion> So back.
[06:16] <Nanaki_Lion> Ping to 8.8.8.8 failed as pinging my router also failed.
[06:17] <rinzler> update manager wants to notify me of updates, but apt-get holds them back when i do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade... any idea of how to get notification center to let go of my system?
[06:18] <Nanaki_Lion> ActionParsnip: did the ping, it failed, as it also failed to ping my router.
[06:20] <Nanaki_Lion> ActionParsnip: so back, ping failed to the one you gave and to my router.
[06:26] <L3top> rinzler, do you have PPAs?
[06:26] <decci> I have a Linux Machine(Ubuntu) as Session Manager.My resolv.conf says:  search localhost nameserver 64.40.125.253 nameserver 201.35.144.236  I am trying to configure Windows 2003 as Application Server. During the Apllication Server setup , the Application server is not getting added to unregistered list. I cross-checked with running nslookup on Windows machine and it does list 64.40.125.253 as DNS server. So there is no DNS issue(right
[06:26] <decci> it all says "Session Manager not connected, sleeping for a while". What could be the issue?
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> Nanaki_Lion: then your interface is not getting DHCP, probably not connecting
[06:27] <Nanaki_Lion> actionparsnip: DHCP server is enabled and set to automatic.
[06:29] <rinzler> L3top: not sure.
[06:30] <L3top> rinzler: does ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d return a result?
[06:31] <Haddockk> I am having this weird issue with my HD6670 with foss driver: Right after installation, when i reboot, all I can see is a purple screen, sometimes it flickers a bit, but I can't see any login window. Doing "nomodeset" lets me login, but with lower resolution. But, booting from a live media works fine with native resolution and 2d acceleration. Any help much appreciated :)
[06:31] <rinzler> L3top: yes: google-chrome.list google-chrome.list.save
[06:32] <L3top> rinzler: sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ~      or replace ~ with a folder of your choosing and sudo apt-get update
[06:34] <L3top> Haddockk: what resolution are you trying to achieve?
[06:35] <Haddockk> L3top: my monitor supports 1366x768
[06:36] <EDawg878> When using pwmconfig how could I tell what sensor something is for example: hwmon0/device/temp1_input
[06:37] <rinzler> L3top: it's still keeping back packages
[06:37] <L3top> Can I see a pastebin rinzler?
[06:38] <rinzler> L3top: yup. one sec...
[06:38] <decci> Guys, I can ping Ubuntu machine from Windows machine while unable to ping Windows machine from Ubuntu. The DNS for both shows the same IP.
[06:39] <decci> If I do nslookup <ubuntuIP> it shows an IP which is listed on /etc/resolv.conf on Ubuntu
[06:39] <L3top> Haddockk: can you login with nomodeset and give me a pastebin of xrandr --verbose
[06:40] <rinzler> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1068936/
[06:41] <L3top> rinzler: uname -r
[06:42] <rinzler> L3top: 3.2.0-23-generic-pae
[06:42] <Sparky_> Anyone here know how to use Xchat?
[06:43] <rinzler> Sparky_: using it right now. what's up?
[06:43] <L3top> rinzler: it is holding back the linux kernel itself. I expect it wants you to sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.
[06:43] <Sparky_> Ah, I want to make it autoconnect to Irc.gamesurge.net and a few channels
[06:43] <rinzler> L3top: mmkay. lemme try...
[06:44] <decci> I am trying to ping Linux machine from Windows it works but while I try to ping Windows box(Win 2003) from Linux it dont? I checked DNS. I ran nslookup <linuxbox) command on Windows 2003 server and it does show DNS entry which is listed on /etc/resolv.conf on Linux
[06:44] <Haddockk> L3top: i shall do some other time, busy with something urgent :(
[06:45] <Sparky_> rinzler, do you know how to do that?
[06:45] <rinzler> Sparky_: ctrl+s, select your server, hit edit on right, check box that says something allong the lines of connect automatically.
[06:45] <Sparky_> Oh, ok thanks :)
[06:45] <rinzler> Sparky_: sry, was looking it up
[06:45] <Sparky_> xD
[06:45] <rinzler> :P
[06:45] <L3top> !ppa | rinzler: you can mv that ppa back if you want chrome updates... but...
[06:46] <Sparky_> Hmm.....'
[06:46] <GNS3Talk> decci: Is the Windows firewall enabled?
[06:46] <Sparky_> rinzler, CTRL^S opens up a dialog to save the log from #Ubuntu
[06:47] <rinzler> Sparky_: ok, then replace the ctrl+s with Network List under the XChat meny
[06:47] <rinzler> *menu
[06:47] <Sparky_> Uhhhh 0.0
[06:48] <Sparky_> I'm new to Ubuntu and all this jazz.... Idk how to do that o.o
[06:48] <rinzler> Sparky_: are you in xchat now?
[06:48] <Sparky_> Yes
[06:48] <rinzler> Sparky_: go to the XChat menu.
[06:48] <rinzler> it's the first ite,
[06:48] <rinzler> *item
[06:48] <Sparky_> x.x
[06:49] <rinzler> alt+x
[06:49] <rinzler> that meny
[06:49] <rinzler> *menu
[06:49] <Sparky_> Nothing is happning x.x
[06:49] <rinzler> are you sure you're in xchat?
[06:50] <Sparky_> XChat-GNOME IRC Chat
[06:50] <Sparky_> Thats what it says on the dock to the left
[06:50] <Sparky_> <--
[06:50] <Sparky_> Is it not the same thing -_-
[06:51] <lrcaballero> Sparky: try using Pidgin...for better result
[06:51] <rinzler> open a terminal and do "sudo apt-get install xchat"
[06:51] <rinzler> w/o quotes
[06:51] <rinzler> and, no, it's apparently not the same thing...
[06:51] <Sparky_> How do I open a terminal? Sorry i'm VERY new to Ubuntu x.x
[06:52] <Sparky_> I installed Ubuntu onto my computer about 3 hours ago
[06:52] <Sparky_> lol
[06:52] <rinzler> click on the top icon in the dock and start typing terminal, and it should bring up an icon
[06:52] <raitar> can xchat use commands，just like /whois xxxx
[06:52] <sjoos> Sparky_: ctrl+alt+t
[06:52] <Sparky_> Oh :3
[06:52] <raitar> my can't
[06:52] <Sparky_> lol I got it XD
[06:52] <rinzler> that too...
[06:52] <lrcaballero> Sparky: go to Dash Home type Terminal
[06:53] <Sparky_> Thats what I did lrcaballero ^^
[06:53] <rinzler> that's the word that I was looking for: Dash Home
[06:53] <lrcaballero> now double click on your terminal
[06:53] <lrcaballero> or single click
[06:53] <rinzler> I'm on xfce :P
[06:54] <Sparky_> kk I opened a terminal :P
[06:55] <Sparky_> Its asking for a password
[06:55] <rinzler> if you copy and paste that command, remember to use ctrl+shift+v to paste it into the terminal, cause ctrl+v means something else
[06:55] <lrcaballero> Sparky: try installing Pidgin...$ sudo apt-get install pidgin inside your terminal
[06:55] <Sparky_> But I can't type anything -.-
[06:55] <Sparky_> lol
[06:55] <Sparky_> It asks for my password, but I can't type anything in it x.x
[06:55] <rinzler> use your password. it won't display anything for security reasons, but you are really typing
[06:55] <lrcaballero> click inside the terminal
[06:55] <Sparky_> oh lol
[06:56] <Sparky_> I see ^^
[06:56] <rinzler> it should go through a whole speil, and if it asks Y/n? just hit enter
[06:57] <Sparky_> Ok it looks like it finished
[06:58] <Sparky_> lol ^^]
[06:58] <rinzler> now open xchat, and it should bring up the window that I was trying to get to.
[06:58] <Sparky_> Ok
[07:01] <Sparky_> Thanks ^^
[07:02] <Sparky_> Ugh XD it join freenode again lol
[07:09] <ganesh_> can u switch kernal in burg
[07:09] <atjesse> Can someone tell me how to configure Canon iR6570 in Ubuntu?
[07:10] <iceroot> ganesh_: ?
[07:11] <atjesse> ganesh_, think you can press "e" and you get grub-like edit mode!
[07:12] <killer> how do i set up ad hoc so that i can use my wired connection also on my android phone
[07:13] <raptor67682> do you know the mms stream of france info radio (news radio) ?
[07:13] <Sparky_> x.x
[07:16] <EDawg878> Can somebody assist me with fancontrol/pwmconfig, I need to correlate fanspeed to hardware temperature
[07:17] <dn4> what is an alternative to mathematic ?
[07:17] <melodie_> hi
[07:17] <Endafy> hey how do I purchase the laptop on the home page?
[07:18] <Endafy> I click the image and it doesnt do anything
[07:18] <melodie_> is there someone knowing a bit the tricks related to grub-customize ? I tried to change the font type but it is not used, another font is systematically used instead
[07:18] <ikonia> Endafy: it's not a web shop
[07:18] <ikonia> Endafy: it's an image, it's n ot real
[07:18] <Endafy> ikonia: why not? I want to buy it
[07:19] <ikonia> Endafy: it's an image.....
[07:19] <EDawg878> its probably from https://www.system76.com/
[07:19] <melodie_> Endafy, what kind of lappy do you want to buy ? what country are you in ?
[07:19] <Endafy> the US
[07:19] <Endafy> I want the one on the Ubuntu home page
[07:19] <melodie_> do you want it new or refurbished ?
[07:19] <ikonia> no, it's just an image
[07:19] <melodie_> ah ha ! :D
[07:19] <zastaph> i want to install ubuntu on macbook air.. but I wonder if it's ok to run linux from a usb flash drive
[07:19] <Endafy> I want the advertised product
[07:19] <ikonia> Endafy: it's not advertised
[07:19] <zastaph> http://www.pendrivereviews.com/
[07:19] <melodie_> Endafy, imho the best lappys are IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad
[07:19] <raitar> :D
[07:20] <ikonia> Endafy: it's just an image
[07:20] <ikonia> Endafy: it does not say it's for sale, nor does ubuntu.com sell products
[07:20] <Endafy> ikonia: alright then why not just show the Ubuntu image
[07:20] <ikonia> Endafy: it's showing an example device running the OS
[07:20] <Endafy> why advertise a thin nice looking laptop
[07:20] <Priyantha> Hi all :) I have graphics problems on my HP Elitebook 8560w with Nvidia Quadro 2000M, yesterday ActionParsnip helped me alot but it didn't solve my problem :(
[07:20] <zastaph> does anyone run ubuntu from a usb flash drive?
[07:20] <melodie_> Endafy, just to make you have the wish for it. ;)
[07:21] <Priyantha> I have looked at it more, and found out that it is probaly something with the framebuffer
[07:21] <Endafy> ikonia: coming from a business perspective, and please dont take offense, thats astoundingly stupid
[07:21] <melodie_> Priyantha, you can do this:
[07:21] <Priyantha> but I disabled the framebuffer in Grub
[07:21] <Priyantha> but it didn't help :(
[07:21] <Priyantha> vga=normal nomodeset, i tried
[07:21] <Endafy> melodie_: so it seem
[07:21] <Endafy> seems
[07:21] <ikonia> Endafy: it sounds fine, ubuntu is not a hardware vendor
[07:21] <Endafy> then dont show hardware
[07:21] <melodie_> Priyantha, you get nividia-tools, create a small xorg.conf with nvidia-xconfig, then comment with a # the line "pci bus id"
[07:22] <melodie_> then it should work
[07:22] <Endafy> truth in advertising
[07:22] <ikonia> Endafy: well, this channel is for ubuntu technical support, so I guess this conversation is done
[07:22] <Priyantha> mmm what does that do then melodie_ ?
[07:22] <melodie_> Priyantha, does your system use nvidia or nouveau ?
[07:22] <Priyantha> nvidia melodie_
[07:22] <Endafy> if you only sell diamonds dont show rings, or put a giant red logo saying "example"
[07:22] <melodie_> Priyantha, are you sure ?
[07:22] <Priyantha> I am 100% sure ;)
[07:22] <Priyantha> I installed it yesterday
[07:22] <ikonia> Endafy: enough now, you can't buy it, disucssion done
[07:22] <Endafy> this is a support quandary
[07:22] <lrcaballero> ikonia: DELL sells laptops with ubuntu install, but for this you have to call them and request it
[07:22] <melodie_> do a "sudo lshw | grep driver" and check
[07:23] <Endafy> ikonia: thats rude
[07:23] <ikonia> lrcaballero: why are you telling me this ? I know
[07:23] <ikonia> Endafy: no, it's not, this is a technical support channel, you've been told ubuntu.com doesn't sell hardware, discussion done
[07:23] <melodie_> Priyantha, you installed : but if you still have "nouveau" in the system, maybe it is preferred (without you knowing) this is why you should check
[07:23] <Endafy> no need to be an asshole about it jeez
[07:24] <Priyantha>                 configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0
[07:24] <melodie_> Priyantha, good ! now do you have a file in /etc/X11 which has for a name "xorg.conf" ?
[07:24] <L3top> Priyantha: What exactly is the problem?
[07:24] <Priyantha> after running the nvidia-xconfig there is no statement in the xorg.conf with  pci bus id
[07:24] <melodie_> L3top, I was going to ask him,
[07:24] <Priyantha> yes I have ;)
[07:24] <Priyantha> the problem is as follows
[07:25] <Priyantha> when I am visiting websites or just opening programs
[07:25] <Priyantha> the screen wil flicker a lot
[07:25] <Priyantha> when I open for example this console(for irssi)
[07:25] <Priyantha> there is some transparancy going on then
[07:25] <Priyantha> BUT when I reboot my system
[07:25] <L3top> lspci -nn | grep VGA     please
[07:25] <Priyantha> I can see still that screen during the Bios POST
[07:26] <melodie_> Priyantha, this is probably coming from Flashplayer
[07:26] <Priyantha> and even during the grub screen
[07:26] <melodie_> each time I have viewed a flash video it does that in my machine
[07:26] <melodie_> Priyantha, and when I close the tab where the video is present, then it stops
[07:26] <melodie_> you might want to try
[07:26] <Priyantha> when I am waiting logn enough, the image disapears, it looks like Plasma retention
[07:27] <melodie_> Priyantha, did you read me ?
[07:27]  * L3top suspects Priyantha is correct about the framebuffer.
[07:27] <Priyantha> yes I did :)
[07:27] <melodie_> did you see L3top asking you a command line output ?
[07:27] <Priyantha> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF106 [Quadro 2000M] [10de:0dda] (rev a1)
[07:27] <Priyantha> Here it is :)
[07:27] <Priyantha> Yeah I do think it's with the framebuffer
[07:27] <Priyantha> I am quite technical myself ;) but it's so long ago I used Linux on a desktop
[07:28] <melodie_> L3top, Priyantha can you explain why the framebuffer, and not the flash videos ?
[07:28] <mbleigh> i can't seem to get my system recognizing grub as the bootloader
[07:28] <L3top> Priyantha: did you install nvidia-current or nvidia-current-updates?
[07:28] <Priyantha> Because melodie_ I didn't opened sites using Flash ;)
[07:28] <Priyantha> I tried both L3top
[07:28] <L3top> Because it is retaining BIOS post. This is something grabbing hold and not letting go from jump street
[07:28] <melodie_> Priyantha, good point
[07:29] <Priyantha> and even tried the newer nvidia drivers from the x-updates ppa
[07:29] <Priyantha> but that didn't solve it either
[07:29] <L3top> I would purge the nouveau driver from your system.
[07:29] <melodie_> Priyantha, did you try nouveau ?
[07:29] <melodie_> L3top, this is also a good idea
[07:29] <melodie_> either or
[07:29] <Priyantha> No I didn't EDawg878 :)
[07:30] <L3top> that card is pretty spankin new... I would go with the nvidia driver over nouveau... for a lot of reasons...
[07:30] <melodie_> Priyantha, try that ? and for the framebuffer you could modify the kernel command line in one of those numerous grub files, I am not sure which one
[07:30] <melodie_> ...
[07:30] <melodie_> going now...
[07:31] <ganesh_> can u switch kernal in burgback
[07:31] <Priyantha> apt-get remove --purge libdrm-nouveau2 xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[07:31] <Priyantha> Reading package lists... Done
[07:31] <ganesh_> back*
[07:31] <Priyantha> doing that now :)
[07:31] <L3top> then reboot please and see if you can reproduce the problem Priyantha.
[07:31] <Priyantha> yes I will :)
[07:31] <ganesh_> anyway i am installing a new kernal and i am using burg
[07:32] <Priyantha> I don't thing I am going to use the nouveau driver
[07:32] <Priyantha> that driver is still to much in development
[07:32] <ganesh_> so i was wondering if u can change ur kernal same like in grub2
[07:32] <auronandace> ganesh_: you should just stick with grub, burg isn't supported
[07:32] <Priyantha> going to alter /etc/default/grub to disable the splash shizzle
[07:32] <L3top> well... it is a losing battle unfortunately Priyantha... but they do awesome work... considering.
[07:32] <ganesh_> so there is no way?
[07:33] <Priyantha> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="vga=normale nomodeset"
[07:33] <Priyantha> that is what I am going to put
[07:33] <Priyantha> should be good I think :)
[07:33] <Priyantha> yes it is L3top
[07:33] <Priyantha> they are doing great work yes I know :)
[07:33] <ganesh_> i do have grub customizer and it does support burg so can u use that change kernal?
[07:33] <Priyantha> will update-grub and then reboot L3top see you a 2 minutes ;)
[07:34] <auronandace> ganesh_: if you need help with ppas then contact their maintainers
[07:34] <auronandace> ganesh_: they are unsupported here
[07:35] <Priyantha> back :)
[07:36] <ganesh_> i see
[07:36] <Priyantha> mmmm made a  typo in my Grub line :P
[07:36] <Priyantha> normale had to be normal ;)
[07:36] <L3top> doh.
[07:37] <Priyantha> It didn't help though :(
[07:37] <Priyantha> still the flickering
[07:37] <L3top> fraid of that.
[07:37] <Priyantha> uhu same here ;)
[07:37] <michaelrose357> Hi what packages should I need to mount an encrypted raid created with fedora?
[07:37] <michaelrose357> or an encrypted raid array in general
[07:38] <Priyantha> I was wondering melodie was talking about altering the xorg.conf
[07:38] <jimmy8888> i seem to be missing "update-rc.d" command in 12.04 - does anybody else have it?
[07:38] <Priyantha> but that line he talked about, it not by default in the config
[07:39] <gaelfx> michaelrose357: not completely sure, but I would assume whatever software was used to create the encryption should be able to do it
[07:39] <michaelrose357> that is probably correct but not extremely useful it was created by anaconda
[07:39] <Priyantha> but I can put it myself of course
[07:39] <michaelrose357> during installlation
[07:39] <Priyantha> just a BusID statement
[07:39] <Priyantha> but is that going to help is the question ;)
[07:40] <L3top> Priyantha: It is a tad more complicated than stuffing it in there... you need to convert it.
[07:40] <Priyantha> yeah I know, from the lspci statement
[07:40] <bekks> michaelrose357: Then you have to ask the Fedora support to please tell you how the encrypt a RAID using anaconda.
[07:41] <L3top> Priyantha: but all that does is designate the correct bus output... in case it is confused... but you would have to have more buses avail which you do not appeear to.
[07:41] <gaelfx> michaelrose357: so ask in the fedora room what packages anaconda uses for encryption
[07:41] <michaelrose357> packages can't be exactly the same...hmm
[07:42] <Priyantha> L3top: exactly what I thought, and that is not the case on my laptop ;)
[07:43] <Jonny1> Hi. I am trying to get multichannel sound from a Nicole USB 6ch sound module. In the sound settings I can only get the first 2 channels to work
[07:43] <L3top> Priyantha: If you wanted to though... lspci | grep VGA | head -1 | while IFS=':. ' read -r tok1 tok2 tok3 rest; do printf '%2s %2s %s\n' "$((16#$tok1))":"$((16#$tok2))":"$((16#$tok3))" | sed -e 's/ //g'; done      will give you what you need ;P
[07:44] <Priyantha> is not really working L3top ;) I think you didn't close it right your string
[07:44] <Priyantha> but it doesn't matter I converted it already by hand :P
[07:44] <Priyantha> But I am not going to that route I think
[07:45] <Priyantha> I can't see why that should solve it
[07:45] <L3top> lspci | grep VGA | head -1 | while IFS=':. ' read -r tok1 tok2 tok3 rest; do printf '%2s %2s %s\n' "$((16#$tok1))":"$((16#$tok2))":"$((16#$tok3))" | sed -e 's/ //g'; done
[07:45] <L3top> 1:5:0
[07:45] <Priyantha> there are no more than 1 graphicscard in y laptop
[07:45] <Priyantha> root@HP-EliteBook-8560w:~# lspci | grep VGA | head -1 | while IFS=':. ' read -r tok1 tok2 tok3 rest; do printf '%2s %2s %s\n' "$((16#$tok1))":"$((16#$tok2))":"$((16#$tok3))" | sed -e 's/ //g'; done
[07:45] <Priyantha> 1:0:0
[07:45] <Priyantha> sorry ;)
[07:45] <Priyantha> :+
[07:45] <FloodBot1> Priyantha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:46] <Priyantha> that bot is quite aggressive tuned by the way ;)
[07:46] <gaelfx> Priyantha: as per guidelines, we try to discourage people from useint the !enter key too often
[07:46] <auronandace> Priyantha: spammers are also rather agressive
[07:47] <gaelfx> it's intended to keep things readable in IRC
[07:48] <Priyantha> Yeah I know auronandace ;)
[07:48] <Priyantha> I am a long-time IRC user myself :)
[07:49] <L3top> You do realise it has to convert from base hex to base 10 right? It isn't a straight swap the dots... regardless. I wonder what it desided your hz is. Does      xrandr --verbose | grep EDID         return a result?
[07:49] <L3top> Priyantha: ^
[07:50] <EdBrill> BONJOUR
[07:50] <L3top> That wouldn't account for the bios post retention though... man thats weird.
[07:51] <L3top> !fr
[07:51] <decci> I got two server - Linux(Ubuntu) and Windows(2003) from webhosting company. I can connect to them and login. When I see Ubuntu machine, it reports some IP X and Z(two entries on /etc/resolv.conf). Say,  nameserver 69.40.125.253 nameserver 200.40.146.236  while Windows Machine too shows the first DNS server entry on nslookup.   >nslookup localhost 69.40.125.253  I am able to ping Windows machine from Linux machine but unable to ping Lin
[07:51] <Priyantha> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=175647
[07:51] <Priyantha> this looks like my problem :)
[07:51] <gaelfx> I am using NFS to access my /home on my mainbox from my laptops in my home, the /home in question is on an external drive connected via USB3.0, and sometimes it works perfectly fine, other times it works particularly slow, can someone help me diagnose the problem, if not solve it?
[07:51] <Priyantha> L3top: I don't get any output after that command
[07:52] <decci> This could be incomplete domain name(I guess?) What domain name shall I need to add to Windows?
[07:52] <Priyantha> no EDID info
[07:52] <gaelfx> Priyantha: are both of your cards listed in lspci?
[07:52] <Priyantha> there is one card gaelfx
[07:52] <Priyantha> no two
[07:53] <gaelfx> Priyantha: ok, is IT listed in lspci?
[07:53] <L3top> yes that thread sounds EXACTLY like your issue.
[07:53] <Priyantha> yes it it gaelfx :)
[07:54] <Priyantha> I think there is also a solution there
[07:54] <onery1> how can i learn how to partition a hd?
[07:54] <Priyantha> I am going to read it more thourough
[07:54] <gaelfx> onery1: I believe there is a guide in the documentation on the website, but do you have a more specific question you might want to ask? I could give you general advice if you like
[07:56] <xplover> hi
[07:56]  * L3top wonders if it is related to the lack of edid data and its guess at your hz... Priyantha can I get a pastebin of xrandr --verbose      as well as your  /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[07:56] <Priyantha> yes of course L3top
[07:58] <Priyantha> here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069003/
[07:58] <Priyantha> I am going to reboot, I changed some settings in the nvidia-settings
[07:58] <Priyantha> ah well
[07:58] <Priyantha> I am to put the xorg.conf also for you
[07:59] <Priyantha> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069006/ here is my xorg.conf
[07:59] <superJ> hello
[08:00] <L3top> Priyantha: you DO have EDID data in there...  odd that it did not return a result...
[08:02] <L3top> Oh... you meant that it did not return the data itself... my fault for not being clear. When I ask if it "returns a result" I mean ANY result... I was just looking for the line that says EDID: the data itself follows after newline... just means it sees some.
[08:04] <Priyantha> back :)
[08:04] <L3top> Priyantha: That is a terribly lame xorg.conf... I am going to generate one for you. Please back that one up in case I blow your stuff up... but... I really shouldn't. That is one heck of a laptop btw. I am a bit jealous.
[08:04] <Priyantha> aah okay sorry
[08:04] <Priyantha> thx ;P
[08:04] <Priyantha> It's quite a beast yes :)
[08:05] <Priyantha> with a 30bit screen FHD and stuff :)
[08:05] <Priyantha> and currently since a couple of days with a ssd
[08:08] <Priyantha> going to purge xorg-edgers
[08:08] <Priyantha> and try to use the latest 'stable' nvidia driver
[08:08] <Priyantha> because now I am using a 302.x driver
[08:08] <Priyantha> that's are the betas
[08:10] <gzimmerer> where to find help on nic drivers??
[08:11] <Priyantha> what kind of nic drivers ?
[08:11] <Priyantha> most of the are already in the kernel includes gaelfx
[08:11] <Priyantha> uhmm gzimmerer
[08:11] <Priyantha> sorry gaelfx ;)
[08:12] <gzimmerer> dell d600 yeah well I've been working on this for two weeks no luck..  I am new to linux/Ubuntu
[08:12] <gaelfx> I am using NFS to access my /home on my mainbox from my laptops in my home, the /home in question is on an external drive connected via USB3.0, and sometimes it works perfectly fine, other times it works particularly slow, can someone help me diagnose the problem, if not solve it?
[08:12] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: what seems to be the problem?
[08:12] <Priyantha> what kind of nic gzimmerer ? your cabled nic ? or wireless ?
[08:12] <gzimmerer> laptop worked well with XP dule boot now that I wiped and put Ubuntu I get wifi but no ethernet.
[08:13] <wdp> gzimmerer, try to ask more detailed questions. describe your problem. you just asked "hey, can someone help me with my bycycle" without telling whats your problem.
[08:13] <gzimmerer> when I do hardware I only see Intel Pro Wireless
[08:13] <Priyantha> L3top: going to install nou nvidia-current-updates by the way :)
[08:14] <Priyantha> and then alter the nvidia-settings according to that thread and look if it is solved
[08:14] <L3top> Priyantha: http://pastebin.com/yn32QHVk        give that a try... if it pukes I will tweak a couple of things... I am making some broad assumptions ... I think they will go.
[08:14] <L3top> Priyantha: I wouldnt
[08:14] <onery1> anyone know if there are NES emulators for Ubuntu?
[08:14] <Priyantha> ah okay
[08:14] <Priyantha> not altering the settings ?
[08:14] <Priyantha> or not purging the xorg-edgers repo ?
[08:14] <gaelfx> onery1: yes, look in the software center, you should find them by searching NES
[08:14] <wdp> nvidia in ubuntu seems to be a little bit difficult anyway.
[08:15] <L3top> Well... the 295.40 driver has a regression issue which is better with the one you have... but it is yours to do with as you wish Priyantha
[08:15] <onery1> thanks gaelfx
[08:15] <gaelfx> wdp: still easier to deal with than fglrx though
[08:15] <wdp> due to compiz I guess.
[08:15] <wdp> if i try to use my sli setup in ubuntu, i get very low fps.
[08:15] <Priyantha> ah okay :P well I want to try the best I can haha L3top ;) so I am keeping the xorg-edgers then :)
[08:15] <wdp> if i disable sli and try to play videos, vdpau causes sometimes freezes.
[08:15] <wdp> and i get overall stuttering.
[08:15] <SadlyMistaken> Hello, I just suprimated the clock,the messages icon, the net-wifi indicator, etc... could someone help me?
[08:15] <wdp> only chance to play back videos --- -vo xv.
[08:16] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: perhaps you could pastebin the output of 'lspci | grep -i network
[08:16] <wdp> but yeah. still easier than fglrx :)
[08:16] <L3top> Priyantha: might do that if this all fails... I didnt see a solution... I saw one guy say he thought it was related to DPMS... and several others say "no" but its worth a shot....
[08:16] <gaelfx> wdp: what are you using to play videos?
[08:16] <wdp> mplayer (hence -vo xv)
[08:17] <Priyantha> well the 'solution' I found was altering the dithering in the nvidia-setings screen
[08:17] <gaelfx> wdp: did you try using VLC and enabling GPU accelleration?
[08:17] <SadlyMistaken> Hello, I just deleted the clock,the messages icon, the net-wifi indicator, etc... could someone help me?
[08:17] <wdp> not yet, can do later. though i really would prefer to use mplayer.
[08:18] <gaelfx> wdp: yeah, that's what I usually use, but I've found VLC actually does a better job a lot of the time (only recently though)
[08:18] <wdp> mhm
[08:18] <wdp> lemme check later, sorting my backups currently :)
[08:18] <gaelfx> no problem
[08:18] <Priyantha> going to try your xorg.conf now L3top :)
[08:19] <Priyantha> thx
[08:19] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: do you know how to use pastebin?
[08:19] <meisth0th> hello
[08:20] <Priyantha> rebooting ;) see ya in a minute of 2
[08:20] <meisth0th> i want to upload my application to launchpad to a ppa, i activated ppa for my application but i don't know how to create a package, i was following packagingguide on wiki but i already have 123918731 tabs open. isn't there an easy way?
[08:22] <gaelfx> meisth0th: easy ways tend to lead to crappier software,imo
[08:22] <meisth0th> lol
[08:22] <meisth0th> i already stayed awake for nights to write to code
[08:22] <Priyantha> L3top: your config made my screen go b0rked ;)
[08:22] <Priyantha> just green and other colors flickering
[08:22] <gaelfx> plus, it kind of needs to be complicated so that the package dependencies and whatnot don't break the system
[08:23] <Priyantha> without seeing the actual content
[08:23] <Priyantha> so reverted to 'no' xorg.conf
[08:23] <L3top> well... I did mention I took some liberties and it might
[08:23] <L3top> And I did tell you to back up your old one so you could revert...
[08:24] <L3top> One second I will give you a safer one
[08:24] <Priyantha> L3top: my fickering is gone
[08:24] <Priyantha> :D
[08:24] <Priyantha> it's done by altering
[08:24] <Priyantha> the nvidia-settings windo
[08:24] <L3top> in what way?
[08:24] <gzimmerer> no sorry i was looking for pastebin
[08:25] <Krammer> Hey :) I've installed the package of 7zip, but I can use it, why ? and how ?
[08:25] <Priyantha> under the Dithering controls, I changed "Dithering enabled" to 'enabled', "mode" to "Static 2x2" and Depth to 6 bpc
[08:25] <Priyantha> mmm 8 looks like working too
[08:25] <Priyantha> changed it now to 8 bpc
[08:25] <gaelfx> L3top: would you have any idea why my mainbox always boots up to 1080i instead of 1920x1080@60hz? (using NVidia drivers) It causes a goodly portion of the screen to remain off-screen
[08:26] <L3top> sweet! Thanks for figuring it out. I will save that, so perhaps I can help someone else.
[08:26] <L3top> gaelfx: all the way around?
[08:26] <gaelfx> L3top: not sure what you mean
[08:26] <Priyantha> Yeah :)
[08:26] <Priyantha> nice stuff, thanks for your great help L3top :)
[08:27] <Priyantha> I will stay here around to help others if I can :)
[08:27] <L3top> meaning not the left side, or the top... but there is a portion of the screen missing on all four sides...
[08:27] <Priyantha> after all I am quite experienced with server systems and running diverse Unix and Linux variants :)
[08:27] <gaelfx> L3top: yeah, that'd be a good description of it :)
[08:27] <L3top> Priyantha: ;) you did all the work... it is nice when helping someone who knows what they are doing...
[08:28] <Priyantha> gheghe I know L3top ;) but two minds can think more than just one
[08:28] <Priyantha> gaelfx can't you force that resolution setting inside the nvidia-settings panel ?
[08:28] <L3top> gaelfx: it is called overscanning... and it has to do with your tv. There is no reason, at all, for TV manufacturers to still use this... but they do. There should be something in the nvidia configuration tool to account for this.
[08:29] <gaelfx> L3top: thanks, I'll look into that then
[08:29] <gzimmerer> Is this how to pastbin?
[08:29] <gzimmerer> http://pastebin.com/rizppHfR
[08:29] <L3top> gaelfx: Many tvs have a way to account for this as well in their menus.
[08:30] <Priyantha> gaelfx: http://priyantha.nl/GoT/Screenshot%20from%202012-07-01%2010:29:12.png
[08:30] <Priyantha> for example
[08:30] <gaelfx> eh, it's a Chinese TV, I'm lucky it has English menus at all
[08:31] <Priyantha> lol
[08:31] <mrguser> ya
[08:31] <Priyantha> you can disable overscanning in the TV settings yes
[08:31] <LeJoker> Evening, #ubuntu. Anyone wanna help me installing an x64 version of Java?
[08:31] <L3top> Priyantha: depends on the tv. My Samsung plasma, for instance (which actually uses LG boards) cannot.
[08:32] <kav> hello , i need help regarding  Shell SCript
[08:32] <kav> can somebody help me
[08:32] <Priyantha> here it says: "16:9 Overscan" 'off'
[08:32] <mrguser> I know it
[08:32] <Priyantha> on my Panasonic TX-P50VT30 Plasma
[08:32] <xpistos> hey guys. Anyone know where I might get some help with a dd-wrt router
[08:32] <Priyantha> wow that's quite annoying L3top
[08:32] <L3top> !details | kav
[08:33] <Priyantha> Isn't here a hidden option for it then L3top ?
[08:33] <kav> ok ! i need want to enter password in script
[08:33] <L3top> Priyantha: Yep... very but our project has its own overscan fixer thingamajig.
[08:33] <Priyantha> It sound so strange, maybe a inside a debug menu or something :)
[08:33] <kav> how can i do that
[08:34] <L3top> kav: sending passwords in the clear is a very bad idea. You should ask how to do this in #bash the correct way... but... truthfully... this should not be done.
[08:34] <kav> i enter sudo bash in script ---> after that i it need password ---> i want to feel the passeord by defualt in script
[08:34] <bekks> Ouch.
[08:35] <kav> O   ! but i need
[08:35] <bekks> Hardcoded passwords - not a single person on this planet needs that.
[08:35] <L3top> kav... just run the script as root.
[08:35] <LeJoker> Anyone wanna help me install an x64 copy of Java? I have a .tar.gz file but I'm not entirely sure what to do with it.
[08:35] <LeJoker> bekks: Hackers do :P
[08:36] <LeJoker> That'd be like christmas!
[08:36] <kav>   GNU nano 2.2.6               File: Music
[08:36] <kav> mkdir .Music_Store
[08:36] <kav> ln -d /home/kav/Music/ /home/kav/Desktop/.Music_Store/
[08:36] <kav> rhythmbox  /home/kav/Desktop/.Music_Store/*.mp3
[08:36] <FloodBot1> kav: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:36] <bekks> LeJoker: Christmas, birthday, Easter, everything. :)
[08:36] <Priyantha> what are you trying to do kav ?
[08:36] <L3top> Priyantha: I have opened up the service menu on my tv... and in fact even changed the model designation to open up 24p... I promise you... there is NO way to do this.
[08:36] <Priyantha> transfering files to other pc's ?
[08:36] <Novasun> joker what version of ubuntu do you use?
[08:37] <Priyantha> ah okay L3top :P strange tho :D
[08:37] <Jonny1> Can anyone help me get surround sound in Ubuntu 12.04 using a Nicole 6ch USB sound card, please?
[08:37] <LeJoker> Novasun: 12.04
[08:37] <kav> i want to transfer files from MUSIC to .Music_Store (hidden)
[08:37] <kav> for that it need a password
[08:37] <Priyantha> on the same machine kav ?
[08:37] <kav> yup
[08:37] <Priyantha> you're using the sudo command in front ?
[08:37] <kav> permission denied !
[08:37] <Priyantha> to do it as 'root' privileged user ?
[08:37] <kav> i tried ! but failed
[08:38] <bekks> kav: You dont need a password at all in your example given.
[08:38] <decci>  I have been provided with two servers Linux and Windows from webhosting company. If I configure one of them with my own DNS server, will it be reachable from here. Or do I need to stick to their DNS server
[08:38] <bekks> Both directories belong to the same user - no password needed at all.
[08:38] <Priyantha> uhu sounds strange, the .Music_Store should be belonging to the same uid/guid's
[08:39] <kav> yup ! it belongs to me i.e kav
[08:39] <L3top> kav... you have been told about your hyperactive use of the enter key... and if this is local, change the ownership/permissions of the hidden folder.
[08:39] <Novasun> joker x64 or x32?
[08:39] <bekks> kav: Then you dont need a password to copy stuff to that directory.
[08:39] <LeJoker> Novasun: x64
[08:40] <kav> i have tried it .... chmod 777 *
[08:40] <NielsMkn> hello everyone
[08:40] <L3top> kav ls -l .Music_Store
[08:40] <Priyantha> 09:37 < Jonny1> Can anyone help me get surround sound in Ubuntu 12.04 using a Nicole 6ch USB sound card, please?
[08:40] <NielsMkn> I have a big problem here
[08:40] <L3top> whatever path that precedes it kav
[08:40] <Priyantha> Jonny1, is it a Chinese sound card or something ?
[08:40] <Priyantha> can you do a lsusb ?
[08:41] <Novasun> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[08:41] <Priyantha> and copy/paste it to a pastebin ?
[08:41] <Jonny1> Priyantha: Yes it was made in China, but then so is everything these days
[08:41] <Novasun> java 7 is said to mess up firefox
[08:41] <NielsMkn> I formatted one of my partitions as fat and now my laptop is stuck at the boot screen (HP Logo) and I can't even enter the bios menu.
[08:41] <Priyantha> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[08:41] <L3top> Novasun: that will not work anymore I do not believe
[08:41] <kav> i have  mention it above
[08:41] <LeJoker> Novasun: I'm looking for java 7 and that installed x86 for me last time
[08:41] <Priyantha> I know Jonny1 :P but I meant the brand it self Jonny1
[08:41] <gaelfx> Jonny1: what does lspci/lsusb show it as?
[08:41] <LeJoker> Java 7 has never messed with firefox for me
[08:41] <kav> wait a minute
[08:41] <gaelfx> Jonny1: knowing the manufacturer usually doesn't help since they probably didn't make the chip they're using
[08:42] <NielsMkn> So when I remove the hdd and boot from usb, I'm able to get into the 'try ubuntu' thing but can't see my hdd even if I connect it.
[08:42] <Priyantha> Jonny1: because google'ing on that sound card doesn't revaal a lot ;)
[08:42] <NielsMkn> Any idea how to solve this issue?
[08:42] <LeJoker> although I installed the JRE, I don't need to develop anything. does the JDK default to x64?
[08:42] <L3top>  Novasun when oracle bought sun they pulled the license nonsense and it has been removed from the repos.
[08:43] <Priyantha> NielsMkn: yes I do have a clue
[08:43] <gzimmerer> Where can I find information on Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04)?
[08:43] <Jonny1> Priyantha: lsusb shows it as Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0c45:17cf Microdia
[08:43] <NielsMkn> ah great how do I do it Priyantha ?
[08:43] <Priyantha> it's because you'r HP has it's Bios on a hidden partition I think
[08:43] <Priyantha> I had it also when I put my new SSD in it
[08:43] <kav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069047/
[08:44] <kav> check it !
[08:44] <L3top> What information are you trying to find gzimmerer
[08:44] <NielsMkn> ah it didn't boot when you inserted the ssd?
[08:44] <gaelfx> Jonny1: ok, so run 'alsamixer' and see if you can select it as your sound card
[08:44] <Priyantha> yes NielsMkn
[08:44] <gzimmerer> First question is this both wifi and ethernet?
[08:44] <Priyantha> I had to plug my old hdd in
[08:44] <NielsMkn> so how did you fix it?
[08:44] <bekks> kav: Then fix the permissions instead of breaking even more permissions when using sudo.
[08:44] <Priyantha> well you can try it with a windows 7 install disk
[08:44] <Priyantha> from HP itself
[08:44] <Jonny1> gaelfx: I can select it in alsamixer as usb audio but it only shows 2 channels
[08:44] <Priyantha> and install the uefi bios tooling
[08:44] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: no, it's wireless, your wired card is probably something else. Why don't you pastebin 'lspci | grep -i network' for us?
[08:45] <Priyantha> you can still change you boot order ?
[08:45] <Priyantha> or choose a boot device ?
[08:45] <Priyantha> or even that not ?
[08:45] <kav> Ok ! lets me try again
[08:45] <gzimmerer> http://pastebin.com/rizppHfR
[08:45] <Priyantha> by pressing the "ESC" button or "F9" NielsMkn ?
[08:45] <gzimmerer> Shows only the ProWireless... perhpas my ethernet is on the MB?
[08:45] <NielsMkn> Priyantha, I can't enter the bios setup options while the hdd is connected.
[08:45] <Priyantha> and if you disconnect the hdd ?
[08:46] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: probably, yes, but it should show up in lspci. how about pastebinning 'ifconfig'
[08:46] <Priyantha> you don't need to enter the bios itself
[08:46] <gzimmerer> sure, but same problem just a sec.
[08:46] <Priyantha> just only the boot menu
[08:46] <NielsMkn> If I remove it and then boot from the windows 7 disc, I can't see the hdd when I connect it later
[08:46] <Novasun> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html  ??
[08:47] <Priyantha> mmmm strange stuff NielsMkn...
[08:47] <Priyantha> let me thing :P
[08:47] <Priyantha> *think
[08:47] <gzimmerer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069049/
[08:47] <NielsMkn> yeah I know, I'm totally stuck :P
[08:47] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: sorry, that was my fault, I should have asked for lspci | grep -i ethernet
[08:47] <bekks> NielsMkn: You dont have a hot plug hdd. :)
[08:47] <bekks> NielsMkn: Most likely, you will electrically break it when doing so.
[08:47] <NielsMkn> hot plug hdd?
[08:48] <shafi> anyone here has experienced pdnsd with dhcp?
[08:48] <Priyantha> try to put your hdd in a usb case :)
[08:48] <Priyantha> or just the s-ata>usb converter
[08:48] <gzimmerer> No prob.... but it showed up blank
[08:48] <Priyantha> that should do it
[08:48] <gaelfx> Jonny1: what does it call the device in alsamixer?
[08:48] <kav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069050/
[08:48] <NielsMkn> So first I need to buy a s-ata to usb converter?
[08:49] <kav> check out this one
[08:49] <Priyantha> I have put my old HDD also trough a s-ata to usb converter on my laptop
[08:49] <gzimmerer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069051/
[08:49] <Priyantha> yes that should give you a big chance yes
[08:49] <kav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069050/      i have addes sudo in it
[08:49] <bekks> kav: OUCH. DONT mess up the permissions even more.
[08:49] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: ok, just pb the whole lspci
[08:49] <bekks> kav: Use this:
[08:49] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey guys, how can I make it so that when I disconnect my headphones from the computer, the volume will become mute and vice versa?
[08:49] <gzimmerer> okay will do
[08:49] <Mayazcherquoi> Just like on Windows?
[08:50] <shafi> anyone here has experienced pdnsd with dhcp?
[08:50] <bekks> kav: chmod -R youruser:youruser ~/Music/; find ~/Music/ -type d -exec chmod 755 {}\; find ./Music/ -type f -exec chmod 644 {}\;
[08:50] <Priyantha> NielsMkn: http://www.priyantha.nl/GoT/Screenshot%20from%202012-07-01%2010:50:06.png
[08:51] <Priyantha> this is how my partition table looks like
[08:51] <gzimmerer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069053/
[08:51] <NielsMkn> I see, thanks Priyantha
[08:51] <kav> ?   ...   can you simplify above ..............Aha ....
[08:51] <NielsMkn> Can you show me a screenshot of your s-ata to usb converter?
[08:52] <kav> bekks   : can you train me
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[08:52] <kav> bekks  : O god
[08:53] <Novasun> seems like it could relate to what you are searching for
[08:53] <bekks> kav: chown -R recursively sets ownership to your user/group. The first find gets all directories and sets useful permissions to them; the second one does the same for all files.
[08:53] <fluffyguy> anyone knows why lxpanel and openbox keeps "restarting" (Its like im on windows and explorer keeps dying on me) ?
[08:53] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: wow, that kind of makes me think that nic in your machine is fried, unless the driver for it somehow got blacklisted. Did you do any blacklisting to get other stuff working?
[08:53] <fluffyguy> Im using lubuntu 12.04
[08:54] <shafi> anyone?
[08:54] <shiftingcontrol> I searched in synaptic and apt-get doesn't install libpcslite-dev, where can I get that
[08:54] <Jonny1> gaelfx: Alsamixer shows it as USB Audio
[08:54] <L3top> !anyone | shafi
[08:55] <gaelfx> I am using NFS to access my /home on my mainbox from my laptops in my home, the /home in question is on an external drive connected via USB3.0, and sometimes it works perfectly fine, other times it works particularly slow, can someone help me diagnose the problem, if not solve it?
[08:55] <gzimmerer> don't know blacklisting, so probably not... It was dual boot with XP working, then reload with Ubuntu finds wifi as eth0 but no wired network.
[08:55] <Mayazcherquoi> Novasun: That isn't really my problem. My socket is not faulty, and sound from the speakers does cease when I plug headphones in. What I am asking, is, how can I have two separate volume levels? One when the headphones are plugged in, and one without? Like Windows 7.
[08:55] <kav> bekks : hey ! what is the difference between locate and finf
[08:55] <kav> bekks : *find and locate
[08:56] <L3top> locate = where does the system think this is, find = seek out anything matching this pattern wherever I tell it to look kav
[08:56] <Priyantha> locate is built with a database, that database has to be up-to-date to know exactly the real location
[08:57] <Priyantha> find is just plain old searching the location without using a database backend
[08:57] <gaelfx> Jonny1: what software are you using to try and play the audio?
[08:57] <Priyantha> locate is most of the time faster, but is only usable when it is already indexed :)
[08:57] <Priyantha> updatedb will update the locate database by the way kav ;)
[08:57] <Novasun> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio
[08:57] <L3top> gzimmerer: does windows find/use it?
[08:57] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: and is the ethernet working under windows?
[08:58] <emoney> quick Q: my buddy DL'd ubuntu12 but would prefer 10,04LTS, and he's dual-booted w/ windows. Can 10.04 be installed over 12 w/o reinstall windows?
[08:58] <shafi> I have configured pdnsd and dhcp-server on my 11.10 ubuntu server, when I set the pdnsd IP in dhcpd.conf as a option domain-name-servers, then the clients are not able to ping google, but they are able to ping the google ip, any idea?
[08:58] <kav> bekks   : i think i asking a stupid question ............... suppose i want to find all file related to .mp3   then if i type                                            find . *.mp3
[08:58] <kav> what shpuld be the output
[08:58] <Novasun> Mayazcherquoi  http://www.schaeben.info/alsamixer.jpg ?? alsamixer
[08:58] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: my wireless shows up as Eth1, so that's just a naming convention for network adapters
[08:59] <kav> bekks :   find         .                                        *.mp3
[08:59] <gzimmerer> Yes Windows finds and used it before the wipe
[08:59] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: did it work in the live environment? could you try to see if it does?
[08:59] <L3top> gzimmerer: can you pastebin your /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[09:00] <shafi> bekks, locate *.mp3
[09:00] <emoney> So if I DL 10.04, burn as ISO to disk, can I just reappropriate the space for Ubuntu12 as space for 12? (as long as I get the partition names correct)
[09:00] <kav> O ! hey ! shafi where is bekks
[09:00] <Jonny1> gaelfx: I want to route 2 different media players to different outputs on the sound card so I can use one to preview on headphones and the other to play my playlist on loudspeakers. So far I am using Rhythmbox and havent installed a second player yet. But jack control only shows 2 outputs at the moment.
[09:01] <L3top> shafi: do you have any other name servers listed? and what does your resolv.conf look like
[09:01] <kav> i think he is using ssh server
[09:01] <Novasun> alsa mixer is in the software center just type alsa
[09:01] <kav> L3top : i think he is using ssh server
[09:01] <shafi> L3top, the ISP dns servers are place in pdnsd.conf file, and within the resolve.conf I only have the localhost IP
[09:02] <gzimmerer> full lshw here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069064/
[09:02] <gzimmerer> rulesd here  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069067/
[09:02] <L3top> Jonny1: it sounds as if you will need to designate outputs on the specific media players... if I understand your goal.
[09:02] <emoney> quick Q: my buddy DL'd ubuntu12 but would prefer 10,04LTS, and he's dual-booted w/ windows. Can 10.04 be installed over 12 w/o reinstall windows?
[09:02] <Novasun> if you type alsa there are others that show up I haven't tested them
[09:02] <Jonny1> gaelfx: I have just found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SurroundSound and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=795525 so Im trying changing "default - sample-channels = 2" to "default - sample-channels = 6". I will have to reboot after doing that
[09:03] <L3top> !downgrade | emoney
[09:03] <Jonny1> L3top: Yes you understand perfectly.
[09:03] <emoney> !downgrade
[09:03] <kav> hey ! i want to plug net shutter in my ubuntu , how can i do that without using network connection API
[09:03] <cybic_> ubottu, to my mind it's nearly impossible to downgrade...
[09:03] <Jonny1> L3top: but at the moment ubuntu is only showing 2 outputs so I am not as far as allocating players to outputs yet. Need to reboot and see if it works
[09:03] <gzimmerer> BTW, How do you guys make your posts on this thread all the same color?
[09:03] <emoney> downgrade from 12 to 10 is an upgrade, imo. But dont want to start the age-old "unity vs gnome" argument
[09:04] <cybic_> emoney, so please do not start ;)
[09:04] <bekks> kav: I am here. Why?
[09:04] <L3top> Jonny1: what does alsamixer show? Does it have a designated headphone mixer?
[09:04] <kav> bekks : hey ! i want to plug net shutter in my ubuntu , how can i do that without using network connection API
[09:04] <emoney> cybic_, I wont...just helping a buddy start out on ubuntu, and 10.04 is far more user-friendly when migrating from windows
[09:05] <kav> bekks ; i want to use system files
[09:05] <bekks> kav: Did they three commands I gave you work out?
[09:05] <cybic_> emoney, and here it goes again :D
[09:06] <emoney> I'll PM for info if you have? Just so it's off main
[09:06] <L3top> Unfortunately emoney, your question has been answered.
[09:06] <kav> i haven't try it out , but i have note them ..i will  try them after clearing my doubts
[09:06] <kav> Aha ...
[09:06] <Jonny1> L3top: For the internal soundcard alsamixer does show a headphone and speaker output. But I need to use the headphone connector to connect a PA system so thats not too helpful as there is only one headphone socket. For USB Audio, alsamixer only shows a single entry "PCM"
[09:06] <kav> bekks : hey ! i want to plug net shutter in my ubuntu , how can i do that without using network connection API
[09:07] <bekks> kav: What is a "net shutter"?
[09:07] <jetole> Does anyone know which room I would use to send a message to ubuntu maintainers or admins?
[09:07] <kav> bekks : can you help me
[09:07] <bekks> kav: I never heard of a net shutter until now.
[09:07] <L3top> Jonny1: That is going to be a bit of a trick.
[09:07] <kav> !net\shutter
[09:07] <shafi> L3top, please see configuration detail here.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069076/
[09:07] <julia> Hi
[09:08] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: for that rules.d you need to open it in gedit and then paste the contents
[09:08] <Jonny1> L3top: Im trying editing pulse audio settings as shown in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=795525. I will have to reboot before I can see if it works.
[09:08] <kav> bekks : net shutter : is pendrive like connector used to plug externally in computer's slot to use internet
[09:09] <bekks> kav: I am sorry, I didnt get that sentence. It makes no sense to me, so please rephrase it.
[09:09] <L3top> Jonny1: this will likely get you 6 chan... but designating them is going to be a trick.
[09:09] <kav> bekks : https://www.google.com/search?q=net+shutter&hl=en&client=ubuntu&hs=Taw&channel=fs&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=HBLwT__JLIHVrQfr0qy9DQ&ved=0CFEQ_AUoAQ&biw=670&bih=316
[09:09] <L3top> lol@ google search link
[09:09] <Novasun> patchage in software center might work it seems to offer allot of customization
[09:09] <Jonny1> L3top: Once I have 6 channels to play with then I think Jack Control Panel's patchbay will do the trick
[09:09] <L3top> checking shafi...
[09:09] <kav> bekks : click on that link
[09:09] <bekks> kav: No. Why?
[09:10] <L3top> not if it thinks the front and the back are the same output Jonny1... If I understand your setup correctly.
[09:10] <julia> I installed 12.04 but my screen is not recognized (Ilyama E2607WS)
[09:10] <julia> any tip?
[09:10] <kav> it will show you net shutter ...........................................believe me , its not a virus
[09:10] <bekks> kav: It downt want a picture of a net shutter, I want an explanation what it is doing. And you . key is freaking out.
[09:10] <L3top> what do you mean the screen is not recognized julia... What is the actual problem?
[09:11] <Novasun> http://drobilla.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/patchage.png
[09:11] <kav> O !
[09:11] <Jonny1> L3top: I need to see what happens after I change the settings and reboot
[09:11] <jetole> Does anyone know which channel I could find ubuntu admins/maintainers. There seems to be a outage on a set of repos at the moment
[09:11] <L3top> kav... stop with the nonsense space eating posts... please. Again. For the 3rd day.
[09:11] <julia> L3top: actually it's recognized as a Ilyama 25
[09:11] <d4v1d> hey guys...anyone knows about the wacom-grafictablett problem in dualmonitor use? Even if i assign my laptopscreen to the tablet, in the mainsettings, the mice is 5cm away from my pen, cause it thinks the whole desktop is my screen..the changed settings are never saved when i close and open the settings again. using updatet ubuntu 12.04 on a lenovo x61t.thx4 reading...doubble thx4help :)
[09:11] <L3top> What problem does this create julia?
[09:12] <kav> netsetter
[09:12] <julia> I' got the twice the information
[09:12] <julia> like 2 bars on each side of the screent
[09:12] <L3top> !details | julia
[09:12] <julia> like "sur iimpression"
[09:13] <gaelfx> I am using NFS to access my /home on my mainbox from my laptops in my home, the /home in question is on an external drive connected via USB3.0, and sometimes it works perfectly fine, other times it works particularly slow, can someone help me diagnose the problem, if not solve it?
[09:13] <kav> internet Data Card which plug externally to PC
[09:14] <julia> Ok I installed Ubuntu 12.04 deskotp, same thing with server version. the screen is recognized as Ilyama 25, when it's a 2607WS, as a result 2 bars on the left and on the right of the screen are re-impreted on top of the already displayed infomration
[09:15] <kav> bekks : its a data Cars which plug externally to PC , to access internet
[09:15] <kav> i think you have seen in it breaks ...............    Net setter giving 2G and 3G  connection
[09:15] <bekks> kav: Use a SINGLE . please.
[09:15] <kav> bekks : ok !  i think you get me now
[09:15] <L3top> I am not sure I can help shafi... I have not seen a conf like that before... Sorry.
[09:15] <julia> Samre results with VGA and HDMI
[09:16] <kav> bekks : sorry , my english is very poor : )
[09:16] <shafi> L3top, no problem, thanks anyway
[09:16] <shafi> hope some one else could help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069076/
[09:16] <lgp171188> Hi, I am getting a 404 on ubuntu repositories when I do an apt-get update in my precise amd64 installation. Something like Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.180 80]. I haven't modified my sources.list in a long long time. Any clues as to what might be wrong?
[09:16] <bekks> kav: And from what I've found in a 30s google experience is, that this "netsetter" is a USB 3G Stick, which uses a Huawei E1550 chipset.
[09:17] <kav> bekks : yup ! you are right
[09:17] <Novasun> julia like how the bars on a wide screen tv movie?
[09:17] <kav> bekks : can you connect them using system files
[09:17] <julia> Novasu, no because there is twice the same information
[09:18] <bekks> kav: Huh? You have to configure it.
[09:19] <kav> bekks : how to configure it ?   , i'm a newbie : )
[09:19] <julia> Novasun: I was wandering if at least, I could do something to specify things manually
[09:19] <L3top> julia: what resolution is this set at? It sounds as if it is reading EDID data and misreporting... you might have to set a NoEdid value either in xrandr or an xorg.conf... i would have to look up which and how.
[09:19] <kav> bekks : actually i don't know which file i have to configure
[09:20] <julia> L3top: it does the same thing whatever the resolution, I tried all, I'm now on 1920x1200
[09:21] <julia> L3top: thanks I'll try to have a look at xrandr
[09:21] <L3top> julia: lspci -nn | grep VGA     please paste the output
[09:21] <julia> xrandr
[09:22] <gzimmerer> Anyone know if you can you search http://paste.ubuntu.com for all paste from a specific user?  As in to see past history?
[09:22] <killer_> hi....i created  a adhoc connection using nm-applet .......but the problem is that it is not detected by any of my wireless device
[09:22] <glitsj16> shafi: have you tried setting /etc/pdnsd.conf to use eth0 as server_ip instead of 127.0.0.1 yet (line 14)?
[09:23] <gzimmerer> L3top: sorry I dropped out for a few minutes... I am still new to chat.
[09:23] <Novasun> julia would this help ? http://www.didiergalland.com/2009/08/05/adding-undetected-resolutions-on-my-sony-vaio-z41-syncmaster223bw/
[09:23] <julia> L3top: SORRY, I was wrong, it does work on VGA, but not in HDMI
[09:23] <kav> bekks : are you busy
[09:23] <julia> L3top: VGA will do the trick,
[09:24] <shafi> glitsj16, not yet, let me just try..
[09:24] <gaelfx> is there anything that I could use to auto detect the character encoding for a text file?
[09:24] <L3top> gaelfx: file
[09:25] <L3top> mcc@cylon:~$ file saned          (newline)    saned: ASCII English text
[09:26] <kav> have any one use alert command
[09:26] <kav>  " alert   "
[09:27] <kav> alert " Hello "                          ### how can i gave  iconto this alert command
[09:28] <julia> Novasun: thanks, I'll give it a try, since in Vga, it's still a identified as 25''
[09:28] <gaelfx> eh?
[09:28] <julia> thanks everybody, have a good day
[09:28] <Novasun> np tell me if it works out
[09:29] <only_u> how can I unrar in ubuntu?
[09:29] <Jonny1> L3top: I changed the pulse audio config and now I have 6 channels all working. Now need to see if I can map them to different players
[09:29] <kav> alert command
[09:29] <L3top> kav... every time you hit enter, I am less inclined to help you. The more you disregard what you have been told for 3 days now... the closer you get to /ignore
[09:29] <L3top> !patience | kav
[09:29] <kav> O ! sorry
[09:30] <L3top> I cant even get libnotify installed and you have posted 5 times.
[09:30] <L3top> You keep saying sorry, and continue to do it.
[09:30] <sbarcteam> hi.
[09:30] <kav> L3top can you help me
[09:30] <sbarcteam> I want to use linux 3.4.4 on ubuntu.
[09:31] <sbarcteam> Is there a ready to use package for it ?
[09:31] <Priyantha> you don't want to use the newer 3.5.0 ? sbarcteam
[09:32] <L3top> kav: alert --help          Most commands have this.
[09:32] <mwozniak00> sbarcteam: you can use 3.5-rc kernel but on 12.10 alpha 2 ;)
[09:32] <Novasun> http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/libnotify1  did you try the .deb file based install?
[09:33] <sbarcteam> mwozniak00: I don't want 3.5-rc. and I'm on 12.04. Do I go make-kpkg route ?
[09:33] <gzimmerer> L3top: You seem busy, I will google some more and perhaps check back some other time... thanks for your help.
[09:34] <L3top> sorry gzimmerer I did not realize you were waiting for me.
[09:34] <glitsj16> sbarcteam: have you tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/142192/can-i-install-linux-kernel-3-4-in-ubuntu-and-kubuntu-12-04 yet?
[09:34] <Priyantha> I am using the 3.5 kernel from the xorg-edgers repo at the moment
[09:34] <L3top> Please refresh me... where are we at?
[09:34] <gzimmerer> this was my last... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069098/
[09:34] <Priyantha> but that's also because I want to use the latest Xorg shizzle
[09:34] <Priyantha> so it can that you don't want that ;)
[09:34] <Priyantha> because it can be unstable
[09:34] <gzimmerer> L3top: this was my last http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069098/
[09:35] <L3top> sorry gzimmerer  cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[09:36] <NielsMkn> Priyantha, fixed my problem :D
[09:36] <Priyantha> cool !
[09:36] <Priyantha> how NielsMkn ?
[09:36] <gzimmerer> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069105/
[09:36] <kav> alert --icon=Path\ my \Icon   "My Message"
[09:37] <NielsMkn> I connected my hdd after entering the bios boot menu, instead of entering ubuntu live mode and then connecting it. This way the disk utility recognised my hdd and I was able to re-format the FAT partition back to NTFS which solved the problem :D
[09:37] <gaelfx> ok, so the next question is, how can I change the character encoding for a file?
[09:37] <brodul> Hi, how to disable ssh-agent in ubuntu ?
[09:38] <L3top> gzimmerer:  your system does not appear to see this nic at all. One second, let me review your lshw you pasted earlier.
[09:38] <brodul> I use 12.04. And want to keep the wifi passwords unlocked. I just want ubuntu to "forget" password of my private ssh keys
[09:39] <kav> i want my alert not to show command alert --icon=Path\my\Icon "My Message"                when it pop up on Screen ... Can any one help me
[09:39] <xcervo> hello guys, how i can download free mp3 I'm using ubuntu 12.4
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> xcervo:  theres numerous web sites with legally free mp3s amazon even has some free ones eveyr day.
[09:40] <LjL> xcervo: Amarok and Banshee have Jamendo functionality
[09:40] <kav> xcervo : use dilandau.com
[09:40] <xcervo> thanks guys i'll check that
[09:41] <fk3> any good pdf reader with option to highlight text and add notes ?
[09:41] <pimperle> did archive.ubuntu.com just break? i get lots of 404s when running apt-get update and this started about 3 minutes ago.
[09:41] <kav> Dr_Wills : hey how are you
[09:41] <L3top> gzimmerer: please check your bios settings, to make sure the onboard is not disabled. You can also sudo mv /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules ~              this file should be regenerated on boot.
[09:41] <L3top> gzimmerer: if something odd is happening then we can move it back afterwards.
[09:42] <Novasun> does ssh auto start?
[09:42] <Priyantha> 10:37 < NielsMkn> I connected my hdd after entering the bios boot menu, instead of entering ubuntu live mode and then connecting it. This way the disk utility recognised my hdd and I was able to re-format  the FAT partition back to NTFS which solved the problem :D
[09:42] <Priyantha> Cool NielsMkn :)
[09:42] <Priyantha> happy to hear that !
[09:42] <Priyantha> so you're now back in business :D
[09:43] <NielsMkn> Thanks a lot for your help Priyantha :D. Fortunately yeah :)
[09:43] <Priyantha> no problem :)
[09:43] <Priyantha> so you have now you bios full working again too ? :D
[09:44] <NielsMkn> yup, everything works perfectly :D
[09:44] <fk3> good pdf reader for ubuntu with options to highlight text and add notes ? i hate xournal
[09:44] <kav> i want my alert not to show command alert --icon=Path\my\Icon "My Message"                when it pop up on Screen ... Can any one help me
[09:44] <fk3> mendeley desktop is another option but it's too heavy.
[09:45] <kav> fk3 : use foxit reader
[09:45] <L3top> !poll | fk3
[09:45] <kav> fk3 : its now available on ubuntu
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> kav: notify-send -i /home/willis/.config/cairo-dock/themes/MeeGo/icons/gedit.png "Demonstration"
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> kav:  dosent show the command it ran here...
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> kav: http://www.barregren.se/blog/pop-notification-command-line
[09:46] <LjL> L3top: he did specify some features he wanted
[09:46] <L3top> And that changes what?
[09:46] <Dr_Willis> kav:  also seems to be some built in icons...
[09:46] <Dr_Willis> kav notify-send -i face-cool "I'm cool."
[09:47] <LjL> L3top: that changes the fact that if you're asking for a program with specific features, that is not a "poll". the only thing that may have triggered your factoid was the "good" adjective, but that really seems pretty venial.
[09:47] <kav> Dr_Willis   : cool
[09:47] <Priyantha> cool NielsMkn :)
[09:47] <Priyantha> what kind of HP was it by the way ?
[09:47] <L3top> So... if you narrow down your poll for a good pdf reader with certain wants it is no longer a poll?
[09:48] <LjL> L3top: correct.
[09:48] <Dr_Willis> notify-send -i face-wink "Wink"
[09:48] <L3top> No... no it is not.
[09:48] <LjL> L3top: note the factoid includes "features you require", so it makes sense that if you specify such features, it's fine.
[09:48] <NielsMkn> Priyantha, Its hp dv6 2165tx
[09:48] <LjL> L3top: i wrote the factoid, maybe i know.
[09:49] <shafi> thanks glitsj16 , now I can ping, but when I am trying to browse the squid server give me DNS time out
[09:49] <L3top> I am simply speaking to the terms of the question as I posed it... and yes... you would know.
[09:49] <kav> thanks Dr_Willis
[09:49] <gzimmerer> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069117/
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> kav:  seems you can use any of the default gnome themes icons without needing to use the full path.
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> notify-send -i printer-error "Printer Is On Fire"
[09:50] <NielsMkn> Priyantha, From what I understood, I can't have a FAT partition since as the laptop starts, the bios searches for a fat partition (which is supposed to be the HP Tools Partition) and it halts there if you don't have the proper data in that partition.
[09:50] <L3top> gzimmerer: that should be fine... but I would have put it someplace else.
[09:50] <L3top> udev is a bit weird... but... should be fine.
[09:50] <Priyantha> cool NielsMkn :)
[09:50] <kav> Dr_Willis : yup !    and thanks you man ... You are great
[09:50] <gzimmerer> L3top: I will move it.
[09:50] <Priyantha> yeah that's true yes NielsMkn
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> kav:  its the alert alias that you are using - that seems to be causing the issue. due to how bash is parseing the alias
[09:50] <Priyantha> you have to have the HP_Tools partition there
[09:50] <Priyantha> or nothing :P
[09:50] <glitsj16> shafi: np, wasn't aware of squid also being in your setup .. i'm afraid i can't help you there
[09:51] <NielsMkn> Priyantha, yeah just learnt that the hard way :P
[09:51] <Priyantha> Is that laptop by the way fully working with Ubuntu hardware-wise ?
[09:51] <kav> Dr_Willis :  i need one more help
[09:51] <shafi> glitsj16, no problem, but this was a gr8 help, I am trying to find out this time out problem
[09:51] <NielsMkn> Yup, everything works totally fine :) (With a few proprietary drivers though)
[09:51] <shafi> Many thanks
[09:51] <L3top> LjL: This was not my understanding. Clearly I defer to your judgment. I was misinstructed.
[09:51] <Priyantha> gheghe cool :) that's nice
[09:52] <NielsMkn> So which model do you use?
[09:52] <kav> Dr_Willis  : how to add password in your bash Script when you working on same machine
[09:52] <Priyantha> I am using a HP Elitebook 8560w
[09:53]  * L3top wonders if that refers to the wattage
[09:53] <Dr_Willis> kav:  not sure what you mean by adding a password.
[09:53] <kav> Dr_Willis   : i want to password for my sudo
[09:53] <glitsj16> shafi: you're welcome .. since 12.04 throws dnsmasq into the mix by default (see http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/) complexities rise a bit .. maybe that page has some info on squid
[09:53] <L3top> kav... again... this is not necessary. You are creating a bad symlink and had weird permissions.
[09:53] <Priyantha> NielsMkn: LY528EA is the exact type
[09:54] <shafi> glitsj16, ok, thanks
[09:54] <NielsMkn> Priyantha, oh so you do have the option to enable UEFI Boot? :O
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> kav:  if the script needs sudo rights, then it should ask for the password as part of the script. or you should run  the script with sudo. you do NOT put a password IN a script. thats security 101 basics. ;)
[09:54] <kav> L3top : but i need  , i want to learn this
[09:55] <L3top> kav then please learn, never send a pass in the clear.
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> kav:  if the script is running specific commands that need sudo rights. you can set up the sudoers file where sudo's password is not needed for specific commands.
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> so i think thats the 3 only options.
[09:55] <kav> Dr_Willis   : ok !
[09:55] <kav> i think that can work
[09:55] <Priyantha> Yes I have NielsMkn :)
[09:55] <Priyantha> but don't use it ;)
[09:56] <NielsMkn> ah, well your laptop is awesome :D Wish I had that one :)
[09:57] <gzimmerer> L3top: to check BIOS I will need to reboot BRB
[09:57] <LjL> L3top: can you answer my PM please? i'd rather discuss this than make it an argument from authority, if you're so inclined
[09:57] <kav> Dr_Willis   : hey is there any system file which can i edit to connect with net setter (USB internet )
[09:57] <Priyantha> haha :)
[09:58] <Priyantha> It's working quite okay now
[09:58] <Priyantha> after some little tweaks
[09:58] <kav> Dr_Willis   : i don't want to connect my net setter using ubuntu API "network Connection"
[09:58] <NielsMkn> oh you had some problems getting ubuntu on it?
[09:59] <jim__c> Can I bring up a degraded nvidia fakeraid 5 using dmraid?
[10:00] <jim__c> The BIOS is happy to boot from it, after giving me a Scary Warning
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> kav:  never heard of 'net setter' so no idea. I just use the normal network manager stuff on my home lans.
[10:00] <jim__c> But dmraid just says "wrong # of devices" and refuses to start it
[10:00] <kav> Dr_Willis   : net setter is like mobile broadband
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> kav:  never used it. Other then basic phone teathering, I only use my home network.
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> time to go to work.. bye all.
[10:01] <kav> Dr_Willis   : Ok !  thanks you very much .... you saved my day .....and bye bye
[10:01] <Priyantha> NielsMkn: yes I had :) it was primary with the graphics
[10:01] <Priyantha> and that is now solved
[10:02] <jim__c> Am I missing something basic, or is dmraid really that broken?
[10:02] <NielsMkn> Priyantha, Cool :D Can't help but feel a bit jealous about the i7 and full hd resolution :P
[10:03] <Priyantha> haha :) sorry :P
[10:03] <Priyantha> I bought in the first place a 8540w with the same screen
[10:03] <Priyantha> but that one broke down
[10:03] <Priyantha> and got this as a replacement
[10:03] <NielsMkn> Wow thats great :D
[10:04] <Priyantha> but only after I had asked and asked for replacement because I didn't had any trust anymore in the older one
[10:04] <Priyantha> :D
[10:04] <DarkSim> Hello, I'm using 12.04 and I'm trying to use a Canon Laser Shot LBP-1120 printer but it doesn't print anything, I don't know what to do anymore
[10:04] <NielsMkn> Interesting so you only paid the price difference or did you have something more? :o
[10:05] <Priyantha> I did not pay anything :)
[10:05] <Priyantha> but the 'old' one was not that old
[10:05] <Priyantha> it was bought in december 2010
[10:05] <Novasun> I want a Autostereoscopic tv
[10:05] <NielsMkn> ah so the price was the same for both?
[10:05] <Priyantha> and in november 2011 it was replaced after dropping it :P and my inssurance paid for that
[10:06] <Priyantha> yes the price was nearly the same yes
[10:06] <Priyantha> same class
[10:06] <Priyantha> and warranty is 3 years
[10:07] <glitsj16> DarkSim: you have the linux driver installed for that printer?
[10:07] <DarkSim> I think I installed a driver called 2.40 from Canon's website
[10:07] <DarkSim> But I am not sure if it really works
[10:07] <NielsMkn> Priyantha, pretty cool :D
[10:08] <kav> Hey ! Priyantha , Novasun , glitsj16 : which is the best server for gaming purpose
[10:08] <Priyantha> yeah it is NielsMkn :D
[10:08] <Priyantha> what kind of server do you mea kav ?
[10:09] <glitsj16> DarkSim: does it show up in CUPS (http://localhost:631)?
[10:09] <Priyantha> well, I think I am going to download a Debian iso :P
[10:09] <glitsj16> DarkSim: sorry typo .. http://localhost:631
[10:10] <Priyantha> I don't think I can get used to the unity interface
[10:10] <DarkSim> glitsj16: Yes
[10:10] <kav> i want to setup server having many client who  can communicate with each other and play on same game
[10:10] <Priyantha> I can't find for example just a simple DPI setting 8)7
[10:10] <kav> Priyantha : is there any server
[10:10] <DarkSim> Would be so much easier if I just could share my desktop with you guys :/
[10:11] <kav> DarkSim : means Remote Assistance
[10:11] <glitsj16> DarkSim: no go when printing test page and/or self test in CUPS?
[10:12] <DarkSim> It says that the print was successful pretty fast
[10:12] <DarkSim> but the printer itself never does anything
[10:12] <L3top> DarkSim: I have power now. Did you remove the other various drivers prior to grabbing the cannon driver?
[10:13] <DarkSim> I am very new to Linux so I guess I haven't done that yet L3top
[10:13] <DarkSim> I don't know how to do that
[10:14] <L3top> If it were me... I would try and get back to scratch. Remove the driver you installed from cannon, and then reverse the steps you took with the site which seemed to lead you down this path to begin with.
[10:14] <L3top> DarkSim: ^
[10:14] <DarkSim> But how do I remove drivers L3top?
[10:15] <L3top> did you download a deb DarkSim?
[10:15] <L3top> Please find the links for me that you used, and I will try and guide you through backing out so we can start fresh.
[10:15] <LjL> kav, there isn't such thing as a "generic" server for gaming that will support any game... you need a specific server for what you want to play - if i understand your question correctly
[10:15] <Saiki> can anyone help me with a shell script?
[10:16] <DarkSim> I don't think I can find those exact downloads again :/
[10:16] <L3top> What is the script and what is it supposed to do Saiki?
[10:17] <Saiki> L3top: I need an option. "Do you wish to continue?" and a simple y/n if yes, run the script. if no, kill it.
[10:17] <L3top> DarkSim: if you are referring to the Canon link... if you can find the file you downloaded that will suffice... the other one was fairly involved... I will need that one. I can backscroll if need be. My irc client has a DB. I can go back to day one. if I gotta.
[10:18] <kav> LjL : Could be a WoW Private Server or a Counter Strike server call of duty the popular games.
[10:18] <DarkSim> L3top: http://www.canon.co.uk/Support/Consumer_Products/products/printers/Laser/Laser_Shot_LBP-1120.aspx?DLtcmuri=tcm:14-846492&page=1&type=download
[10:19] <LjL> kav: well, as i said, you need a WoW server program, a CS server program, or a CoD server program. there is no generic program.
[10:19] <Saiki> kav: Most WoW servers run on windows, other servers you'll have to dig for
[10:19] <qw[UA]> hello all
[10:20] <Novasun>  Xenon servers $0.35 per slot  or gamingdeluxe 12 slots: £15.00
[10:20] <kav> LjL  : O !    is their any popular server which is very useful for  a  beginner to learn
[10:20] <qw[UA]> help me please
[10:20] <computa_mike> quick question : any one know how to install   libMagick++.so.3 onto precise?  it was there in oneric, but the upgrade removed it - It's only one application I get that uses it, so was wondering if there was a process to add it back in, or should I just recompile against   libMagick++.so.4?
[10:20] <DarkSim> Must I have the exact downloads just to remove the drivers?
[10:20] <SilvereX> 7
[10:20] <Novasun> just got back scrolled up :D
[10:21] <qw[UA]> i am install ubuntu 10.04 and i would like update/upgrade my system
[10:21] <jim__c> Or, failing that ^ any bright ideas for converting fakeraid in-place to md? :/
[10:21] <Saiki> kav: What are you trying to do, exactly?
[10:21] <kav> LjL : i'm  a newbie , and i want to learn to set up a small server  in my house {may contain 3 - 4 PC }
[10:21] <LjL> kav: i'm afraid i don't really know, as i'm not into gaming. but i'd start with something that is in the repositories (mostly open source games), try doing "apt-cache search game server | grep server"
[10:22] <Saiki> LjL: most servers won't be found on th repos
[10:22] <Saiki> lJL: not like what he's talking
[10:22] <Saiki> kav: are yu paying attention to me?
[10:23] <LjL> Saiki: well, servers for open source games can. if he wants to "learn", i don't see how that prevents him from learning... if he wants to install proprietary blobs, he can do that without my help ;)
[10:23] <kav> Saiki : yup !
[10:23] <Saiki> kav: What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[10:23] <Saiki> LjL: granted. but even prop. servers take some work
[10:23] <DarkSim> I think I have tried in total 3 diffrent drivers, no way to remove them all and start fresh without having to find where I downloaded them all
[10:24] <raven> xubuntu 12.04 new installation + nvidia quadro 620: monitor stays black after loading grub
[10:24] <kav> 3 - 4 PC clients connected to my PC , i want to control them using My server
[10:24] <Saiki> LjL: I'm installing a propiatary server right now myself
[10:24] <Eagleman> How to locate where the binary of a command is?
[10:24] <kav> how can i do that ?
[10:24] <L3top> Saiki: http://pastebin.com/gHkgDwMS   try that. I didn't test but should be right.
[10:24] <Saiki> kav: a game server of some sort, or a telnet/ remte controll server?
[10:25] <Saiki> L3top: thank you
[10:25] <kav> ok ! i want to start from beginning then i'll choose a remote controll server
[10:25] <Eagleman> Would this work in crontab?  1        *       *       *       *       init 6
[10:26] <kav> Saiki : after that i'll go with gaming server
[10:26] <Saiki> L3topI can just use Y) someline here  <new like> more code here?
[10:26] <raven> xubuntu 12.04 new installation + nvidia quadro 620: monitor stays black after loading grub what could be wrong??
[10:26] <Saiki> kav:Gaming servers are easier to set up
[10:26] <DarkSim> Maybe I should back the whole OS back to fresh install? Should be faster, no? L3top
[10:27] <Saiki> raven: does the failsafe kernel work?
[10:27] <kav> O ! i that so , ut still i go with remote controll srver
[10:27] <Saiki> kav: That's beyond me. I can't help you there
[10:27] <kav> i willl go with remote controll server
[10:28] <L3top> Saiki: I am not sure I understand your question. I just used echoes to demonstrate the ability to put a command there... You can do whatever you want before the ;;   and Y|y allows upper or lower case. I am not sure I understand your question.
[10:28] <kav> O ! ok ! can you gave me some links regarding remote controll server
[10:28] <L3top> Saiki: oh... and as I made it a function, it will have to be invoked... obviously...
[10:29] <gzimmerer> L3top: I have reviewed the bios NIC and both onboard and docking station are enabled.  Did ifconfig and same result.
[10:29] <joerh99> 怎么没人说话啊
[10:29] <Nicekiwi> how do i copy a folder to my iphone? ive mounted it successfully with ifuse, but the cp command is not working
[10:29] <L3top> !cn | joerh99
[10:29] <Saiki> L3top: this work? http://pastebin.com/UCDFDsnh
[10:29] <kav> !in
[10:29] <Saiki> L3top: I want to go to the directory and run the script, as is
[10:30] <Saiki> L3topso basically: cd /my/place && ./install.sh
[10:30] <raven> Saiki seems to work but the strange thing is: this is a testing machine yet and i installed exactly the same setup yesterday and today again - and yesterday it worked without problems. how could that be?
[10:30] <joerh99> 谢谢
[10:30] <gzimmerer> L3top: I think I have had enough for now... thanks for your help (and apparently you give a lot so double thanks)
[10:30] <joerh99> 哦  原来如此
[10:31] <L3top> yes... if you throw the actual ask_them call where you want it in the rest of the script... and quit should probably be exit 0 Saiki
[10:31] <kav> hey ! LjL are you indian
[10:31] <DarkSim> Can I back a 12.04 install back to a fresh install, or do I have to reinstall it manually?
[10:31] <Saiki> joerh99: ??????????,?????????? ???
[10:31] <Saiki> dangit..
[10:32] <joerh99> 我输入 /join #ubuntu-cn  可是没有反映啊
[10:32] <L3top> DarkSim: If you have nothing else on the machine you could do a fresh install...  but in general one learns from fixing broken things... and when you DO have a ton of data on there, this will not be an option.
[10:32] <DarkSim> Yeah I know
[10:32] <kav> joerh99 : just type /j #ubuntu-cn  and hit enter , a new tab will open and go there
[10:33] <DarkSim> but I did install it yesterday and I do only want Firefox, Spotify and that damn Printer to work first
[10:33] <pale3> I can't find anything on net about monitoring currrent clock rates of gpu with nouveau drivers. Is there solution to this?
[10:33] <L3top> gzimmerer: I am sorry... but it looks like your nic is fried... can you see if you have the /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules ?
[10:33] <LjL> kav, nope
[10:33] <DarkSim> and there doesn't seem to be a way to back installed drivers so I can't really do anything
[10:33] <gzimmerer> sure
[10:33] <kav> so, why are you in #ubuntu-in
[10:33] <Novasun> there are probably cheaper or better ones then the ones ive listed
[10:34] <LjL> kav: because i'm in many channels as i'm an Ubuntu IRC operator
[10:34] <kav> LjL   : O !    that is great .
[10:35] <Saiki> L3top: but if I instructed someone to do that, cp (dir) and run the script. as it stands now, would that work?
[10:35] <kav> LjL :can you list me some best remote control server name ?
[10:35] <Saiki> L3top: ignoring the commands, they will change, obviously
[10:35] <DarkSim> But after I've done the reinstallation can you get me helped with clean from the start L3top?
[10:35] <LjL> kav, stop with the "best" thing, it's all subjective. but what do you mean by "remote control server"?
[10:35] <L3top> It would have to begin with #!/bin/bash     and end with ask_them
[10:35] <L3top> Saiki:
[10:35] <raven> Saiki seems to work but the strange thing is: this is a testing machine yet and i installed exactly the same setup yesterday and today again - and yesterday it worked without problems. how could that be?
[10:35] <DarkSim> If I can't get this printer to work, I have no choice but to install WinXP
[10:36] <Saiki> raven: I heard you
[10:36] <Saiki> raven: my issues issimpler, let me fix mine first. ok?
[10:36] <kav> LjL : Sorry ...    a server to control my clients' activities
[10:36] <raven> ok
[10:37] <innociv> I'm having trouble installing dtrace. "ERROR: /lib/modules/3.2.0-24-virtual/build does not exist".
[10:37] <innociv>   But when I google that, I'm not finding anything useful with my knowledge.
[10:37] <gzimmerer> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069179/ same as before, I think I am going to try to reload XP and see if I can learn HW and driver set or just dual boot as before.
[10:37] <L3top> DarkSim: I am happy to try and help. Either we can try and find the site with all of the stuff you did, but yes... at this point... a fresh install will take about 30 min. You wont need to do anything magic, just during the installer options, choose "Use entire drive" if there are no other OSes on there
[10:38] <LjL> kav: i don't know, something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagios ?
[10:38] <kav> LjL : what about OpenSSh server , is it good
[10:38] <L3top> gzimmerer: I have about a 81% confidence level that this nic will not appear in windows... unless you have dumped it into a file in /etc/modprobe.d as a blacklist
[10:38] <Saiki> L3top: http://pastebin.com/mph3wJxR
[10:39] <DarkSim> I'll reinstall and immediately come back here so you can help me right from the start
[10:39] <Nicekiwi> how do i copy a folder to my iphone? ive mounted it successfully with ifuse, but the cp command is not working
[10:40] <DarkSim> Cya in 30-60min L3top
[10:40] <Saiki> raven: This isn't my area of knowlage, but I have found that crazily sometimes you can make exact replications and something can be different. In my opinion, it's a matter of luck
[10:40] <Saiki> L3top: like that?
[10:40] <LjL> kav: that's a very basic thing any server should have installed.
[10:40] <kav> LjL : i'm  using SSH and SOCKS to connect internet with my firefox  ... But i don't know how to use OPENSSH server as a Remote Control Server
[10:40] <AkhlD> Nicekiwi, use cp -R :)
[10:41] <Nicekiwi> AkhlD: whats that?
[10:41] <LjL> kav: uh, you just type "ssh hostname", give your password, and then put commands in it remotely like it were a local shell
[10:41] <AkhlD> Nicekiwi, that command recursively copy all contents of folders
[10:41] <Saiki> kav: OPENSSH isn't a "remote controll server" it's a shell connection
[10:41] <Nicekiwi> AkhlD: ahhh sweet
[10:42] <Mlysian> Hi , I am installing lamp stack by terminal, "sudo tasksel install lamp-server". I unable to type in the password
[10:42] <kav> Saiki  : Okkk !
[10:42] <Saiki> kav: have you ever used FTP?
[10:43] <L3top> Saiki: like this http://pastebin.com/s1HUcvwr
[10:43] <kav> Saiki : yup !
[10:43] <LjL> Mlysian: define "unable". does it say it's the wrong password?
[10:43] <Mlysian> no
[10:43] <Saiki> kav: openssh = FTP (but SLIGHTLY different)
[10:43] <Mlysian> it want me try again
[10:43] <Saiki> L3top: thank you
[10:43] <L3top> Saiki: you can literally just drop that into a new text file... name it... say, askem... and type bash askem
[10:44] <kav> !openssh
[10:44] <LjL> Mlysian: then it's saying it's the wrong password. i assume it happens for anything you do with "sudo"?
[10:44] <gzimmerer> L3top:  blacklist is more than I can handle right now.  I am US CTime  Starbucks is about to open I think I'm ready :)  I will raise a glass to you... THANKS L3top!!!
[10:44] <Saiki> L3top: ./askthem.sh should work too, yes?
[10:44] <oCean> Saiki, kav: NO. ssh is nothing like ftp
[10:44] <kav> !ftp
[10:44] <oCean> kav: what is your goal? What are you trying to do
[10:44] <Saiki> oCean: OPENSSH, not ssh
[10:44] <LjL> Saiki: difference being?
[10:44] <L3top> yes Saiki. http://pastebin.com/9e6c1FUN
[10:44] <LjL> Saiki: i thought openssh was an implementation of the ssh services
[10:45] <Novasun> FileAid on your iPhone/iPod touch then start the app  Click on the share Icon then right click Start press Open then right click Start and press Open Enter ftp://(Blank)  In the empty blank area, fill in the IP number port it gives you in the application  look at the app in your iPhone
[10:45] <kav> O god ! you are coonfusing me
[10:45] <Saiki> LjL: always though of ssh being command like. and open as being more FTP-like
[10:45] <oCean> kav: again, what are you trying to do? I'm not sure what "controlling clients activities" means
[10:45] <Novasun> then drag and drop the files
[10:45] <L3top> Saiki: you will want to change that to be an executable to avoid opening with bash. sudo chmod +x askthem.sh
[10:45] <LjL> Saiki: that's not the case to my knowledge. when you install "openssh-client" on an Ubuntu machine, that's what provides the "ssh" command.
[10:46] <kav> ioCean : i want to set up a server like we have in college
[10:46] <oCean> kav: ok, some details?
[10:46] <Saiki> L3top: can that be done and carried over to windows though?
[10:47] <L3top> It is a BorneAgainShellScript... so no. You would need to use a windows scripting language.
[10:47] <Saiki> kav: you mean where they can shut down a PC if you're on somehting they don't want you on?
[10:47] <L3top> *BorneAgainSHell script
[10:48] <kav> details : a server which act as FTP from which my clienst can download , and also manage who log when and when he log out , and what they access
[10:48] <Saiki> oCean: (trying to help you on hat lol)
[10:48] <Saiki> L3top: I mean. I make it on linux, chmod it and then can I copy it to windows and when it goes to a new linux pc it will work as intended?
[10:48] <kav> is there any server for me according to my details
[10:49] <geobilalis> im on Xubuntu, how can i change keyboard layout in order to swith languages when i  type?
[10:49] <L3top> Saiki: ah... I believe that would depend on how you copied it.
[10:49] <Saiki> L3top: openssh server to windos to ISO
[10:50] <L3top> so windows is client?
[10:50] <oCean> kav: I would suggest you start reading here: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/index.html The guide has various very helpful topics
[10:50] <Saiki> L3top: no, linux is client. it's a file I need to share with others
[10:50] <L3top> I really don't know the answer to be honest. I don't even have any windows machines anymore so I can't test... and I mean that you are sshing from windows in putty or something Saiki.
[10:50] <phelipe> help
[10:50] <Saiki> L3top: it's a server setupscript
[10:50] <k0nichiwa> hello ubuntu 8.1 i can't add/remove software, the repositories seem to be bogus or something (specifically Eclipse)
[10:50] <kav> hey ! can any one help me , how to use FileZilla
[10:51] <geobilalis> anyone knows how to change keyboard layout?
[10:51] <dr_willis> !8.10
[10:51] <Saiki> kav: rtfm?
[10:51] <oCean> kav: have you started reading the link I send?
[10:51] <Mlysian> LjL: sudo: tasksel: command not found. This is what I got after typing in the password. The password typing into terminal is invisible?
[10:51] <oCean> Saiki: that is NOT welcome here
[10:51] <k0nichiwa> !upgrade
[10:51] <geobilalis> Mlysian yes it is invisible
[10:51] <k0nichiwa> oh no, i hope the upgrade process is easy
[10:51] <k0nichiwa> or ill have to resinstall the virtual machine =)
[10:52] <Saiki> L3top: I am sshing from windows, but I have physical access to the machine
[10:52] <oCean> k0nichiwa: if you have decent backups, you could reinstall and restore the data you need
[10:52] <Saiki> L3top: I am setting up a server
[10:52] <kav> oCean : yup  ! hey ! i have a doubt , ubuntu launch to two type of falvours 1. ubuntu server 2. desktop ubuntu
[10:52] <LjL> Mlysian: yes, it's invisible
[10:52] <kav> what is the difference
[10:52] <geobilalis> Xubuntu change keyboard layout? i need two languages to swith when pressing alt+shift?
[10:52] <L3top> Saiki: so you are using putty on windows?
[10:52] <k0nichiwa> oCean, yeah thats one way to do it
[10:52] <LjL> Mlysian: and apparently tasksel is not installed by default
[10:52] <Saiki> L3top: WinSCP
[10:53] <Mlysian> LjL:  O
[10:53] <LjL> Mlysian: sudo apt-get install tasksel should get it for you - but maybe there's a reason why it's no longer installed, not sure
[10:53] <Saiki> L3top: graphical, not command line
[10:53] <oCean> kav: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications (webserver etc)
[10:53] <dr_willis> winscp is a must have tool  ;)
[10:53] <L3top> I don't know is the answer frankly... With regards to executable bits on shell scripts pulled from ubuntu onto windows... "probably" is the best answer I can give.
[10:53] <Mlysian> LjL: yes ,I got it from documentation,but can't install
[10:54] <kav> oCean : O !
[10:54] <LjL> Mlysian: what happens when you try
[10:54] <L3top> Saiki: I do not understand the roll or necessity of a windows machine at all.
[10:54] <Saiki> L3top: quess I won't know till I try lol. I have a gunea pig I can test on :P
[10:55] <Mlysian> LjL: after type in the password , sudo: tasksel: command not found
[10:55] <Saiki> L3top: the windows pc is MY pc. the linux pc is a server VM
[10:55] <LjL> Mlysian: i mean after you try doing "sudo apt-get install tasksel"
[10:55] <Saiki> L3top: hence why I am using WinSCP to access it. my windows PC has everthing on i and I'm copying it to the server
[10:55] <kav> !raid
[10:56] <Mlysian> LjL: it show [sudo] password for weng:
[10:56] <kav> hey ! what is software RAID ?    i'm confuse
[10:56] <Mlysian> LjL: I think is my password
[10:56] <oCean> kav: I asked you to start reading the server guide.
[10:57] <kav> oCean : i'm reading that guid , there i found Software Raid and i get confuse
[10:57] <Mlysian> LjL:  whole process  weng@ubuntu:~$ sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[10:57] <Mlysian> [sudo] password for weng:
[10:57] <Mlysian> sudo: tasksel: command not found
[10:57] <Saiki> L3top: make more sense now?
[10:58] <stueng> you know when you are at the desktop and you can click up at the top where it says Ubuntu and "connect to server" how can I start that another way?
[10:58] <LjL> Mlysian, what i'm saying is that BEFORE running tasksel, you need to INSTALL tasksel. that's done with "sudo apt-get install tasksel"
[10:58] <kav> Mlysian : install it ................                            sudo apt-get install tasksel
[10:59] <Mlysian> ok, thanks
[10:59] <L3top> So copy the stuff to the server burn the disk from server vm... growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=/path/to/image.iso       or /dev/sr0 or whatever
[11:00] <L3top> Saiki: ^
[11:00] <NielsMkn> gtg now later
[11:01] <Saiki> L3top: growisofs -Z /update.iso  ?
[11:01] <k0nichiwa> hm im having more sucess installing eclipse now
[11:01] <k0nichiwa> i just added the respository sources from the "upgrade instructions" for 8.1
[11:02] <k0nichiwa> maybe i dont have to upgrade ubuntu
[11:02] <Saiki> L3top: growisofs -Z /update.iso   or is it.. growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=/update.iso ?
[11:02] <oCean> k0nichiwa: please understand that End Of Life also means that you cannot get upgrades/newer versions etc
[11:03] <L3top> well Saiki, you would want to create the iso on linux... so... it gets a bit more complicated... are you trying to make an installable cd/dvd?
[11:03] <k0nichiwa> i c its going to install a really old version of eclipse
[11:03] <oCean> indeed
[11:03] <k0nichiwa> well 2010 version may be ok for me
[11:03] <Saiki> L3top: can im pm you?
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> k0nichiwa  why not upgrade to 12.04 then?
[11:04] <L3top> growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=/home/Saiki/update.iso   for instance... unless update.iso was on the root
[11:04] <L3top> sure
[11:04] <k0nichiwa> i just use this ubuntu for the occassional linux work, its not a main OS for me currently
[11:04] <DarkSim> L3top: I'm back, fresh and all
[11:04] <L3top> woohoo
[11:04] <k0nichiwa> so if i can install eclipse and compile this eclipse project, thats all i need
[11:04] <DarkSim> 269 updates from update manager
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> k0nichiwa  then upgrading to 12.04 may be what you want: better support, newer software, less issues
[11:05] <kav> oCean   , LjL  :  ifconfig -a | grep eth
[11:05] <k0nichiwa> chill out dude, its an OS, its not a cult
[11:05] <kav> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:24:21:a5:a7:a3                        .....................what is  HWaddr 00:24:21:a5:a7:a3        ?   is that my Mac Address
[11:05] <LjL> kav: should be, yes
[11:05] <stueng> you know when you are at the desktop and you can click up at the top where it says Ubuntu and "connect to server" how can I start that another way?
[11:06] <k0nichiwa> ur  pushing 12.1 on me like your a moonie and 12.1 is the unified church
[11:06] <kav> LjL : O !
[11:06] <LjL> k0nichiwa: you mean 12.10? who's pushing 12.10?
[11:06] <DarkSim> Gonna let it install all these updates first
[11:06] <DarkSim> then we shall get things going
[11:06] <k0nichiwa> oh 12.04
[11:06] <k0nichiwa> whatever =)
[11:06] <LjL> k0nichiwa: you can use other versions too, it's just not recommended to use versions that are EOL
[11:07] <DarkSim> Even got some hot water with honey in it, let's get to it!
[11:08] <ragon> hello! can i ask something about "quickly"?
[11:09] <DarkSim> ragon: apparently you never ask about asking a question
[11:09] <DarkSim> just ask the question
[11:09] <ragon> ok! do you know how i can create a "Save as..." dialog with quickly?
[11:10] <Krammer> Hey :) How can I use 7zip software ? I can just use the basic software :/
[11:11] <stueng> apt-get install 7zip ?
[11:11] <oCean> ragon: if no one here nkows, you could try asking in the #ubuntu-app-devel channel
[11:11] <oCean> knows*
[11:12] <ragon> oCean: nice, thanks!
[11:12] <kav> LjL  : what is PPP0 ?
[11:12] <kav> I know that it is  a Point to Point Protocol .But why we use this protocol ? Is this is a mobile BroadBand Protocol ? If so , then where in File System i can found Its System file to configure .
[11:12] <DarkSim> L3top: I will soon be at your disposal, updating soon done
[11:16] <zastaph> there must be 100 ways to get Ubuntu onto a pendrive.. I'm lost
[11:16] <zastaph> whats the benefit of using the pendrive as a live cd? can live cd's be updated?
[11:16] <mi3> zastaph: yes
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> zastaph  unetbootin is the most used way, what issue are you having?
[11:16] <kav> zastaph : use unebootin
[11:17] <zastaph> and my first thought was simply to boot live cd from cdrom, and just choose install directly to the pendrive
[11:17] <mi3> zastaph: and you store the settings too and pendrives are faster then live cd's I'd say.
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> zastaph  the benefit is, that it's faster and you can easily erase the pendrive
[11:17] <zastaph> but them I read about not good idea to have /tmp partition on the drive, better in ram
[11:17] <kav>  what is PPP ?
[11:17] <kav> I know that it is  a Point to Point Protocol .But why we use this protocol ? Is this is a mobile BroadBand Protocol ? If so , then where in File System i can found Its System file to configure .
[11:18] <wylde> !ppp > kav
[11:19] <zastaph> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent/#Method_1:_Installing_Ubuntu_directly_to_USB_drive_from_installer_CD
[11:19] <leonjeru> what's the wiki page for ubuntu, package distribution files ? thanks
[11:19] <zastaph> it describes the problem with /tmp and wear out
[11:19] <zastaph> but I can't seem to find the solution
[11:20] <zastaph> why can't the installer just give you the option during install?
[11:20] <Novasun> pen drives are more secure since they use transistors normal harddrives that are not solid state have residual paramagnetic traces of old data even when wiped
[11:21] <Krammer> stueng : I've add the package with the software-center :/
[11:21] <zastaph> yeah but pendrives wear out
[11:21] <zastaph> so I want swap/tmp in ram
[11:21] <Jonny1> Can anyone help me get Jack audio working, please? I get the errors shown at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1069211/. Its the same using a usb sound card or the built in one. My setup (the default) is shown at http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2012-07-01_12_16_40.png
[11:21] <Novasun> if you wipe a flash drive it is wiped like if you use kill disk in a live cd
[11:22] <zastaph> I just can't find any docs that tell me how
[11:22] <DarkSim> L3top: I should be ready now!
[11:23] <DarkSim> Clean install and the first batches of updates are done, I am now at your command
[11:24] <Krammer> What is the better ? apt-get remove or apt-get clean ? or other ?
[11:25] <mi3> can someone suggest how the terminal knows in which directory it is when we click on "Open in Terminal " ? which command is it ?
[11:25] <marun> Hi how do i check if my server needs to be rebooted? Is there any flag sort of thing?
[11:25] <oCean> Krammer: those are totally different commands
[11:26] <DarkSim> I hate printers
[11:26] <DarkSim> Don't you?
[11:26] <Krammer> to get 7zip, the command is "sudo apt-get install p7zip-full" ?
[11:26] <Jonny1> mi3: I would guess the terminal would start in its default directory which would be ~ (your home directory). Or maybe it starts in the application directory called by the command you are running
[11:26] <mi3> Jonny1: but which command is it ?
[11:27] <oCean> Krammer: yes, that would install that package
[11:27] <Elchzard> marun: afaik the server will tell you when you login if it needs to be rebooted
[11:27] <Krammer> mi3 : isn't "pwd" ?
[11:27] <Krammer> oCean : yes, I've installed that, but now, what I must do to open 7zip ?
[11:27] <mi3> Jonny1: for example, when I installed nautilus open terminal, it gave me the option "Open in terminal" but how does the terminal come to know that I am in that directory ?
[11:28] <marun> Elchzard:  i wanted to write a script to send me automatic notifications when a server needs to be rebooted. So where can I get the  status from?
[11:29] <notjoe> marun, depends on what you want to use as the trigger to reboot the server
[11:29] <oCean> Krammer: the command is /usr/bin/7z   7z --help shows options (or man 7z)
[11:29] <mschr> Yo, whats up with the HDMI playback for time being?? How come it doesnt 'just-work' :/
[11:29] <Jonny1> mi3:  Sorry I guess I didnt read from the start of your posting. Could you repeat the whole question (all on one line), please?
[11:30] <mi3> Jonny1: sure
[11:30] <mschr> i have tried multiple approaches, none seemed to work. Only thing left for me - given my knowledge of the sound system - is to manually compile alsa
[11:31] <mi3> can someone suggest how the terminal knows in which directory it is when we click on "Open in Terminal " ? which command is it ?
[11:31] <mi3> Jonny1: for example, when I installed nautilus open terminal, it gave me the option "Open in terminal" but how does the terminal come to know that I am in that directory ?
[11:31] <kav> i'm reading PPP , then i came to topic wvdial , i open its conf file ....   i'm still on mobile Broadband (MTS Mblaze) , so why it don't detect my Modem
[11:31] <Krammer> oCean : I cannot use it with Nautilus integration, or like a basic Software ?
[11:31] <ikonia> mi3: what do you mean how it knows ?
[11:31] <ikonia> mi3: it's passwd through dbus to open a terminal in the current working directory
[11:31] <k0nichiwa> whats hdmi playback
[11:31] <mschr> HDMI device shows fine everywhere and modules are loaded, however no audio is sent through.. aplay -D hw:hdmi_ints ..wav ?> channel count not available
[11:31] <kav> please check this file  : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069233/
[11:32] <k0nichiwa> oh its like multiple monitors connected via hdmi cable
[11:32] <Krammer> oCean : O_o 7zip is only usable with Terminal ?
[11:32] <mschr> k0; analog audio playback => mini-jack speakers output, digital audio playback => optical jacks etc.. hdmi => passthrough audio to receiving device
[11:32] <mi3> ikonia: umm when we click on open in terminal, it has to issue some command which will enable it to know which directory it will open
[11:33] <k0nichiwa> mschr, you mean you connect a multimedia system to your machien using an hdmi cable
[11:33] <mschr> aplay -D plughw:hdmi_ints ..wav no error - yet no sound
[11:33] <ikonia> mi3: it's passed through dbus via the desktop
[11:33] <mschr> k0nichiwa yes
[11:33] <k0nichiwa> mschr, have you tried mplayer / vlc ?
[11:33] <mschr> k0nichiwa yes ofc
[11:33] <kav> Try smplayer ...
[11:34] <Jonny1> mi3: I suspect whatever you are running from the GUI is sending  command like /some/path/somefilename. So if you tell it to run in a terminal I would guess the terminal session would run in the directory /some/path as specified in the command sent by the GUI. Sorry if that answer is not helpful
[11:34] <DarkSim> L3top: Are you still there?
[11:34] <k0nichiwa> mschr, any help ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1111396
[11:34] <mschr> discussions about the topic comes in multiples with many many forums
[11:34] <Krammer> Sometimes Windows is better, very better than Linux :/
[11:34] <jim__c> I gave up trying to bring up the raid degraded and restored the metadata from the 3rd disc.
[11:34] <k0nichiwa> well yeah but that shows how to tell mplayer to route to the hdmi
[11:34] <kav> Krammer : what happen ?
[11:34] <jim__c> Now it thinks there are 2 arrays, both degraded :(
[11:35] <k0nichiwa> mschr, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1111396
[11:35] <kav> Krammer : i'll help you
[11:35] <k0nichiwa> oh sorry
[11:35] <k0nichiwa> mschr mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=0.3
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> mschr  maybe this page is useful - i don't use hdmi myself, so it's just a hint http://voices.canonical.com/david.henningsson/2012/04/14/audio-over-hdmi-and-displayport-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[11:35] <mi3> f I want it to open in the Downloads folder, now when I click on open in terminal , it will show that the pwd is /Downloads, how does it do that ? its bcos of dbus ?
[11:35] <k0nichiwa> mschr, have you tried the various -ao possibilities with mplaye r?
[11:35] <mi3> or what ?
[11:35] <ikonia> mi3: the terminal is opened with a current working directory
[11:36] <mi3> ikonia:  then what about open in terminal option ?
[11:36] <ikonia> mi3: what about it ?
[11:36] <Krammer> kav : to have graphical insertion of 7zip :/
[11:36] <L3top> sorry DarkSim
[11:36] <L3top> HERE
[11:36] <mi3> ikonia: http://i.stack.imgur.com/cArXe.png can you explain this to me ?
[11:36] <mschr> k0nichiwa how would i know for sure which hw:x,y is the right one?
[11:36] <mi3> what parameters is it using ?
[11:36] <kav> Krammer : Let me see , wait a minute
[11:36] <L3top> for the most part... 730 am now... give me just a minute to finish this.
[11:37] <Krammer> kav : to have "add to..." and other things in contextual menu
[11:37] <ikonia> mi3: it's opening a terminal with the current working directory as a variable
[11:37] <ikonia> mi3: that variable is passed to the terminal when launching, so ti's current directory is where you are
[11:37] <mi3> ikonia: ok, can it be assigned as a keyboard shortcut
[11:37] <mi3> ?
[11:37] <DarkSim> L3top: Ok :)
[11:37] <ikonia> mi3: not really, as there will be no working directory to pass
[11:37] <ikonia> (assuming I'm understanding what you mean)
[11:37] <mi3> ikonia: umm ok, thanks for the explanation :D
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> mschr  there's also this, seems they found a solution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1961114
[11:38] <Jonny1> mi3: What are you trying to do?
[11:38] <mi3> I wanted to know how it worked, now I know it uses some variable.
[11:38] <Krammer> kav : thanks :) and there isn't possibility to get PeaZip or like that on uBuntu ?
[11:38] <k0nichiwa> mschr, it probabl isnt the right one for you
[11:38] <mi3> Jonny1: nothing, trying to understand that
[11:38] <L3top> ugh... wifes home... this is gonna be a min DarkSim.
[11:38] <k0nichiwa> mschr, you'd have to research that part some more
[11:38] <DarkSim> L3top: No worries
[11:38] <mi3> Jonny1: thanks to you too
[11:39] <k0nichiwa> mschr, maybe its a device listed in your /dev or whatever
[11:39] <DarkSim> L3top: If I can get this printer to work in the end, it's all worth it
[11:39] <k0nichiwa> that linux directory that lists all the devices on your machine
[11:39] <raven> how to connect virtual box with a 26 i/o audio card (pci)?
[11:40] <kav> Krammer : in ubuntu their is a Tool 7zip
[11:40] <k0nichiwa> mschr, obviously you can make some guesses and try all the possibilities pretty quickly
[11:40] <k0nichiwa> mschr, another thing ive found with alsa if you are using that
[11:40] <kav> Krammer : what you want from it
[11:40] <k0nichiwa> is that alsa for me would somtimes have various outputs and inputs set to 0 volume
[11:40] <k0nichiwa> i think it was alsactl in a terminal that would let you control that
[11:40] <Krammer> kav : not have to use Terminal for 7zip
[11:41] <Krammer> kav : graphical insertion like in Windows
[11:41] <kav> actually , you don't need temianl for that
[11:42] <nicholaspugh> What channel should i join to ask about drivers?
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> nicholaspugh  try #ubuntu
[11:42] <kav> Krammer : just right click on that you want to encompress , it will encompress
[11:42] <Krammer> Kav : and how I do that think ?
[11:42] <Krammer> kav : I can't do that :/
[11:43] <kav> which distro are you using ?
[11:43] <nicholaspugh> Alrighty. Where is a good place to get drivers for a netgear n600 wireless N Adapter?
[11:43] <Saiki> what does this do?: fromdos /home/*.sh
[11:43] <Krammer> kav : yes I can do that, but there isn't so many options like 7zip software
[11:44] <Jonny1> mi3: OK. When you click on an application, you are actually calling a shortcut. For example, /some/path/somefilename which has been set up in the shortcut. If you are running gnome you can see this by editing the applications menu and looking at one of the shortcuts for an application. I dont know how to that in unity. If you selected an option to run in terminal then I am not sure if the terminal would run in your home directory ~ or would r
[11:44] <kav> choose .zip , if you want to that stuff on windows
[11:44] <mschr> i was noticing some bumping 'ticks' on my TV over hdmi once i turn up volume 50% + (very loud). Reinstalled fglrx with one shipped on ubuntu repositories and now its gone (thumbing). yet still no audio
[11:44] <kav> Krammer : ubuntu offer you many functionality to comtpress
[11:45] <mi3> Jonny1: ok, understood, meaning the parameter cannot be assigned to the shortcut in this case, but it can be assigned only to the open-in-terminal, right
[11:45] <kav> Krammer : Enjoy Ubuntu !        Feel its Power , you can't imagine what are you using .....Aha !!!
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> Saiki  in a terminal, type apt-cache show tofrodos     to find out what it's for
[11:46] <Krammer> kav : I'm just realising that WinRAR is just the better unarchiver x)
[11:47] <Krammer> kav : better than 7zip, even on Windows, because we can use Profiles :p
[11:47] <kav> Krammer : well, you need to spend time on ubuntu .
[11:47] <Saiki> MonkeyDust thank you
[11:48] <kav> Krammer : which Ubuntu version  you have
[11:48] <Saiki> MonkeyDust: some of these things I'm seeing are completely new to me
[11:48] <Jonny1> mi3: Yes I think so. You might be able to tell the application you are using to run in a certain directory. Then if you run it in a terminal, the terminal might also run in that directory. Again, I am guessing so someone else correct me please.
[11:48] <mschr> k0nichiwa, MonkeyDust thx but sadly none of the above forum threads is the solution
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> Saiki  that's called 'learning'
[11:49] <Saiki> MonkeyDust: something like that :P
[11:49] <Krammer> kav : last times I've spent more time on uBuntu than on Windows, but I'm finding huge defaults of ubuntu which I haven't on other OS :D
[11:49] <Krammer> kav : Euhhhh... 12.04 I think :D
[11:49] <kav> Krammer : are you using Laptop or Desktop for Ubuntu .Which one ?
[11:49] <mi3> Jonny1: yeah, thanks for the explanation, I think I will stay with my present pwd when the terminator starts :D
[11:49] <mschr> the HDMI output device lists fine with aplay -l and pacmd list-sinks both an analogue and the hdmi sinks
[11:49] <Krammer> kav : Laptop Acer Aspire 7741G :p
[11:50] <kav> Krammer : o ! nice
[11:50] <Krammer> kav : why ? x)
[11:50] <kav> krammer : what is your battery backup on ubuntu
[11:51] <kav> krammer : i think atmost 1.5 hours
[11:51] <Saiki> MonkeyDust: in this case it's more "monkey see, monkey do"
[11:51] <vato__> hi
[11:51] <Krammer> kav : Only AC :p never use without battery, but with other OS, I can watch 2 movies in one battery life
[11:52] <m0ss> I just made a bootable USB thumb drive in Mac OS X and I can't boot from it..
[11:52] <mschr> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC663 Analog [ALC663 Analog]; card 1: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI] and then
[11:52] <Krammer> kav : (in economical power)
[11:52] <mschr>  aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav no error, has playback
[11:52] <m0ss> My macbook isn't recognizing it after reboot.
[11:52] <mschr>  aplay -D plughw:1,3 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav no error, No playback
[11:52] <kav> krammer : ubuntu has less compatibility with hardware
[11:53] <Novasun> is it supposed to auto boot the usb?
[11:53] <kav> krammer : Ubuntu now saying , that they removed that problem in 12.10
[11:53] <Saiki> MonkeyDust:I'm loking at pre-made scripts
[11:53] <VirtualBlackness> ok DarkSim... printer model please
[11:53] <mpma__> Hello everyone
[11:53] <geobilalis> How can i add more apps in the XUBUNTU dock???
[11:53] <kav> Krammer : in 12.10 , you may get more battery backup
[11:53] <Krammer> kav : before I've formated all my HDD (3 days ago), no hardware problem with both OS
[11:53] <DarkSim> VirtualBlackness: Canon Laser Shot LBP-1120
[11:54] <Krammer> kav : yes, I've 12.04 LTS
[11:54] <DarkSim> L3top: ^
[11:55] <Krammer> kav : and I can upgrade without lose data ?
[11:55] <kav> krammer : LTS means you ubuntu version will pay more attention than others in term of time
[11:55] <geobilalis> support etc
[11:55] <m0ss> Novasun
[11:55] <m0ss> its not supposed to, i press alt/option on boot
[11:55] <m0ss> but it only recognizes my main hard drive
[11:55] <DarkSim> L3top: Canon Laser Shot LBP-1120
[11:55] <SkippersBoss> !patience | geobilalis
[11:55] <kav> Krammer : if you on 11.04 , even then you can upgrad without loss of data
[11:56] <L3top> What country are you in DarkSim
[11:56] <DarkSim> Sweden
[11:56] <SkippersBoss> geobilalis, You want to add another launcher to the panel ??
[11:56] <Krammer> kav : so LTS is for Laptop ?
[11:56] <m477> have can I check if I have installed java JRE and JDK?
[11:57] <DarkSim> L3top: Sweden
[11:57] <SkippersBoss> I guess not hmm
[11:57] <kav> krammer : Haha !   well may be .. It designed for both desktop and Laptop
[11:57] <Krammer> kav : maybe in one year when i'll go to university I'll happy to have more autonomy :D
[11:58] <raven> how to connect virtual box with a 26 i/o audio card (pci)?
[11:58] <kav> Krammer : take an example of MAC , if you have MAC then your Battery Backup will more if you install window / ubuntu on MAC system
[11:58] <Krammer> kav : I have not all understood on "LTS means you ubuntu version will pay more attention than others in term of time" :/
[11:59] <glitsj16> mschr: have you tested each subdevice on your hdmi card yet? it might be a different subdevice than 1,3
[11:59] <kav> Krammer : take an example of MAC , if you have MAC on mac system then your Battery Backup will more compare to when you install window / ubuntu on MAC system
[11:59] <kav> Krammer : LTS : Long Time Support
[12:00] <Krammer> kav : and there is a link between LTS and battery backup ?!
[12:00] <mschr> glitsj16 there is only the one for card 1
[12:00] <kav> Krammer : 8.10 is not LTS , after few years Ubuntu will stop making packages for 8.10
[12:01] <L3top> DarkSim: what does Handböcker mean in English?
[12:01] <kav> LTS and Battery BAckup has no link
[12:01] <Krammer> kav : ooh, I understand now :)
[12:01] <mschr> glitsj16 i know it looks odd and i also find it weird, that the device # starts with 3
[12:01] <DarkSim> L3top: Basically it means a guide/manual
[12:01] <kav> krammer : any other problem
[12:02] <glitsj16> mschr: can you pastebin aplay -l please, or provide a link to it if you already done that
[12:02] <Krammer> kav : but maybe in some years, 12.04 LTS will not be continued to have package ? (bad sentance :D)
[12:02] <dr_willis> !lts
[12:02] <mschr> glitsj16 thing is, plughw:1,3 has a pause, says 'playing WAVE' but nothing is heard
[12:02] <kav> well , i think it will be supported till 2017
[12:02] <SkippersBoss> !lts | krammer
[12:03] <glitsj16> mschr: device #'s for hdmi usually do start at 3, but what is weird is only 1 subdevice
[12:03] <L3top> DarkSim: Does that look right? http://www.canon.se/Support/Consumer_Products/products/printers/Laser/Laser_Shot_LBP-1120.aspx?DLtcmuri=tcm:87-846510&page=1&type=download
[12:03] <Krammer> Okay, I think I've understood that :)
[12:03] <pity123> hello
[12:04] <DarkSim> L3top: Yeah, that's my printer alright
[12:04] <mschr> glitsj16 i have an onboard sound device, a dedicated video card. fglrx provides the HDMI card
[12:04] <L3top> go ahead and dl DarkSim
[12:04] <kav> krammer : Aha ! o god !  i think we are of same age   , i want to go in  university : (     . ... in a good university
[12:04] <L3top> DarkSim: go to bottom and accept the mile of agreements
[12:05] <kav> krammer : Aha !    , happy ubuntu
[12:05] <DarkSim> L3top: File downloaded
[12:05] <glitsj16> mschr: okay, what i was thinking: your card does have several subdevices, but pulseaudio configuration uses the wrong one, so no error + no sound
[12:06] <L3top> mschr: does sudo speaker-test -c 2 -t sine -l 1 -D hw:1,3           make noise?
[12:06] <mschr> http://pastebin.com/zQ6MLbWj
[12:06] <glitsj16> mschr: thanks, checking
[12:06] <kav> dr_willis : read this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069233/
[12:06] <mschr> l3top nop
[12:07] <Krammer> kav : another problem, I don't have microphone on skype
[12:07] <Krammer> kav : but on PulseAudio, I can talk easily
[12:08] <kav> dr_willis : i'm using MTS MBlaze ( PPP modem)    , but when i use wvdial.conf   , it doen't detect my modem
[12:08] <kav> krammer : i never use skype    ...          Sorry !
[12:08] <pollymath> part
[12:09] <mschr> glitsj16 oh and btw hda-intel module gets 3stack-dig however i dont think it has anything to do with it
[12:09] <dr_willis> kav ive not used a dialup modem in 13+ years
[12:09] <L3top> mschr: can you add      options snd-hda-intel model=auto        to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf      at the end and then sudo alsa reload
[12:09] <Krammer> erf... somebody can help me ? I cannot use microphone on Skype, but I can use it on PulseAudio !
[12:09] <kav> dr_willis : O !
[12:09] <L3top> mschr: then speakertest again
[12:09] <mschr> l3top same story, no audio
[12:10] <glitsj16> mschr: l3top has loads more knowledge on this, forget what i was saying (that referred to nvidia)
[12:10] <kav> L3top : please took here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069233/    ,i'm using MTS MBlaze ( PPP modem)    , but when i use wvdial.conf   , it doesn't detect my modem
[12:10] <L3top> mschr: can you put a hash # in front of what I just gave you and put options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=0 index=-2  in there instead... and sudo alsa reload  and then speakertest
[12:11] <L3top> dunno anything about that kav...
[12:11] <L3top> DarkSim: I have a terrible connection. I am almost done
[12:12] <kav> La3top  : Ok !
[12:12] <L3top> mschr: there are no error messages or warnings at the beginning when you do alsa relaod right
[12:12] <mschr> l3top Terminating processes: 9142lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/mschr/.gvfs
[12:13] <mschr> 4 warnings on gvfs
[12:13] <kav> !gvfs
[12:13] <L3top> Can you reboot please mschr and speakertest
[12:13] <sasho> what is the best antyVirus sofware ?
[12:13] <oCean> !av | sasho
[12:14] <mschr> aye captain :)
[12:14] <jim__c> ok, the raid is restored to life
[12:15] <sasho> :)
[12:15] <L3top> DarkSim: have you extracted that archive yet?
[12:15] <jim__c> now I have to find my wife's backup drive and get her to move her stuff off it
[12:15] <jim__c> because my own is not big enough for everything I need to back up
[12:15] <sasho> the bot is good mate
[12:15] <DarkSim> L3top: Yes
[12:16] <jim__c> congratulations dmraid, for simultaneously convincing me once and for all I don't want to be using you and making it very difficult to stop
[12:17] <L3top> DarkSim: uname -m
[12:17] <mschr> l3top the msi switch renders no-cards-found
[12:17] <DarkSim> L3top: Should I just write that in terminal?
[12:17] <compdoc> pssst: dmraid is not alive
[12:17] <mschr> [    8.484915] snd_hda_intel: `-' invalid for parameter `index'
[12:18] <L3top> can you hash that and unhas the last and reboot please... (sorry... alsa is... annoying this way)
[12:18] <L3top> DarkSim: ^
[12:18] <DarkSim> I'm not sure I get what you want me to do L3top
[12:18] <sasho> #electronics
[12:18] <jim__c> compdoc, why do you think I'm trying to convert to mdraid in the first place?
[12:18] <L3top> type uname -m DarkSim
[12:18] <L3top> tell me what it says please DarkSim
[12:19] <L3top> DarkSim: in a terminal
[12:19] <DarkSim> L3top: i686
[12:19] <kav> L3top : what  is the difference between gksu and gksudo ?
[12:19] <AndroidBeing> am trying to configure xdmcp with lightdm, have added "[XDMCPServer] enabled=true" but it doesn't work, is there anything else I need to change?
[12:19] <miadbahrami> how to recover my file in ubuntu & linux ?
[12:19] <mschr> gawd i love ssd :)
[12:20] <ircnode0> I unmute and maximize everything (except rear mic boost), but there are no sound?
[12:20]  * miadbahrami how to recover my file in ubuntu & linux ?
[12:20] <L3top> DarkSim: in terminal, please navigate to the extracted directory, the the 32bit directory then the Ubuntu directory
[12:20] <compdoc> mschr, ssd is nice, but make sure you enable trim in fstab
[12:20] <ircnode0> with alsamixer
[12:20] <mschr> l3top no noise
[12:20] <mschr> compdoc ?
[12:21] <ircnode0> can I do something to get sound back?
[12:21] <compdoc> http://askubuntu.com/questions/18903/how-to-enable-trim
[12:21] <L3top> mschr: amixdigital=$(amixer | grep "Simple" | cut -d' ' -f4,5,6 | sort | uniq); for output in $amixdigital; do amixer sset $output unmute; done 2>/dev/null; alsactl store
[12:21] <compdoc> mschr ^
[12:21] <mschr> options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=0 is valid, cards are listed but no hdmi audio
[12:21] <DarkSim> L3top: I'll try and navigate with terminal, haven't done that yet though
[12:21] <mschr> compdoc what does it do?
[12:21] <L3top> DarkSim: what browser did you use to download?
[12:21] <DarkSim> L3top: Firefox
[12:22] <L3top> DarkSim: cd ~/Downloads
[12:22] <compdoc> mschr, trim is a method of deleting data that ensures the ssd drive lives a long life
[12:22] <L3top> did you extract it with ark there?
[12:22] <mschr> ahuh
[12:22] <DarkSim> just had to change downloads with hämtningar
[12:22] <L3top> mschr: aplay -l | grep -i hdmi
[12:22] <DarkSim> gonna be a pain with swedish words, but I hope you can endure
[12:23] <mschr> l3top yea, none muted neither :p
[12:23] <L3top> lol
[12:23] <L3top> mschr: just checkin
[12:24] <L3top> mschr: lspci -nn | grep VGA   please
[12:24] <DarkSim> L3top: is the Debian folder the Ubuntu folder?
[12:24] <L3top> sorry Debian yes DarkSim... not ubuntu
[12:25] <m0ss> does ubuntu support EFF
[12:25] <DarkSim> L3top: I am now in the debian folder in the 32-bit driver folder in terminal
[12:25] <mschr> l3top: http://pastebin.com/zQ6MLbWj && 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series [1002:95c4]
[12:26] <L3top> DarkSim: sudo dpkg -i cndrvcups-common_2.40-1_i386.deb cndrvcups-capt_2.40-1_i386.deb
[12:27] <L3top> ERg...
[12:27] <L3top> mschr: lsmod | grep fglrx
[12:27] <DarkSim> L3top: How do I know if it did everything correctly?
[12:27] <L3top> It will install
[12:27] <L3top> and not yell at you
[12:28] <L3top> mschr: does that return an output?
[12:28] <mschr> l3top yes
[12:28] <mschr> Driver version: 8.95-1202414a-134397C-ATI
[12:28] <L3top> mschr: You cannot run that driver
[12:29] <mschr> fglrx loaded and linked with agpgart
[12:29] <L3top> mschr: In the infinite wisdom of ATI, you must use the radeon driver.
[12:29] <mschr> hmm
[12:29] <L3top> One moment
[12:29] <DarkSim> L3top: This is basically what came out http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069318/
[12:29] <DarkSim> I ran it through google translate to fix the swedish words, hopefully it's still readable
[12:30] <L3top> DarkSim: sudo apt-get install libglade2-0
[12:30] <mschr> l3top radeon driver is xorg default fallback right?
[12:31] <DarkSim> L3top: Done with that command
[12:31] <L3top> mschr: they are incompatable... you will have to purge and reload a heap of stuff unfortunately...
[12:31] <muelli> DarkSim: if you ran "export LC_ALL=C" beforehand, you'd have everything in proper English
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:32] <DarkSim> I'm very new to Linux and I'd want the menus to be in Swedish since it's for my father
[12:33] <L3top> DarkSim: that command is just for the session
[12:33] <Saiki> DarkSim: change the system langage to sweedish and reboot. the system should ask if you want to convert the folders
[12:33] <DarkSim> L3top: I should've said I have executed it
[12:34] <DarkSim> My folders are in swedish, most of them already
[12:34] <L3top> one second mschr not forgotten you... just trying to do both of these things at once
[12:34] <mschr> l3top im quite certain that i heard people over on #ati having audio working with fglrx..
[12:34] <zastaph> what's the difference of installing Ubuntu to pendrive between using Unetbootin or the "Startup Disk Creator" from Ubuntu self?
[12:34] <L3top> Not on that chipset in 1204 mschr
[12:34] <L3top> check with them.
[12:35] <L3top> mschr: before I give you these commands I am looking for the notice of support drop to confirm
[12:35] <L3top> mschr: that is why it is taking me forever
[12:36] <L3top> mschr: I may be confused...
[12:36] <mschr> oh but i have no issue with trying out the radeon driver
[12:36] <mschr> i'd just be happier with fglrx running as should
[12:36] <L3top> mschr: Yes... sorry... I am wrong... it is not till the 12-5 catalyst... this is the 12-4 equiv in repo.
[12:36] <L3top> I think
[12:37] <L3top> bah.
[12:37] <L3top> DarkSim: did you sudo apt-get install libglade2-0
[12:37] <DarkSim> L3top: Yes
[12:37] <L3top> DarkSim: sudo dpkg -i cndrvcups-common_2.40-1_i386.deb
[12:38] <DarkSim> L3top: Done
[12:38] <L3top> no errors?
[12:38] <MK`> My ram got low and so ubuntu started allocating some things to swap. Now that my ram usage is down, it still shows 5% swap in use, is there a way for me to transfer that out of swap?
[12:39] <DarkSim> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069329/
[12:39] <DarkSim> L3top: Doesn't seem like an error to me at least
[12:39] <L3top> DarkSim: sudo dpkg -i cndrvcups-common_2.40-1_i386.deb
[12:40] <DarkSim> L3top: Same things as before
[12:40] <djiefo> Hi, how to install gnome themes comming in zip file? thru 12.04 thx
[12:40] <L3top> Does anyone know if you need to reload cups or anything after installing printer drivers?
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> djiefo  unzip, then install, or is that not exactly what you mean
[12:41] <wdp> is there a way, to limit the kernels and files in /boot in ubuntu?
[12:41] <L3top> just fyi mschr http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_catalyst_legacy2&num=1
[12:41] <djiefo> MonkeyDust,  it's not that simple...
[12:42] <Mlysian> Hi, where is my file location after install lamp server by terminal
[12:42] <wdp> I used to have /boot on a separate partition since I use linux, usually like 150 MB for /boot. So I did when I installed my mom ubuntu. The problem is now, /boot runs full, hence my question if it's possible to keep only the current kernel and the one before that as fallback (automatic)
[12:42] <L3top> mschr: has that other one out... I will find a better msi for your specific card... I am almost done with Dar
[12:42] <DarkSim> L3top: I think you have to, I remember reading that somewhere
[12:43] <Sparky_> ARGHH
[12:43] <L3top> DarkSim: just reboot... if you dont mind... I just like reboots. Nobody else does.
[12:43] <DarkSim> Oh ok
[12:43] <DarkSim> Rebooting
[12:43] <mschr> whats msi short of
[12:44] <uzumati> what's up fellas
[12:44] <Sparky_> Whenever I open the Ubuntu Software Center, I get an error, Over and Over and Over again! "Items cannot be installed or removed until the package catalog is repaired. Do you want to repair it? 'Once Update Manager has finished the repairs, you can close it and return to the store.'"
[12:45] <djiefo> MonkeyDust,  when I extract, it gives me 2 files (1 tar.gz and 1 .emerald)
[12:45] <L3top> The index address... I was just giving you quick cheats that work for almost every nvidia thing out there... and some ati... thats why I asked about the GPU, and then thought (mistakenly) that the fglrx could have been the problem. I do not believe it is teh case... I have to find the matrix for individual doodads.
[12:45] <L3top> mschr: ^
[12:45] <DarkSim_> L3top: Done
[12:45] <L3top> Lets try and print.
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> Sparky_  avoid expressions like "Over and Over and Over again" -  in a terminal try sudo apt-get install -f        -f means fix
[12:45] <Sparky_> lol
[12:46] <DarkSim_> Gonna start up the printer
[12:46] <alankila> Sparky_: command-line time. Try 'sudo apt-get update', see if it's more illuminating about what goes wrong
[12:46] <Sparky_> ok
[12:46] <bencc> how can I measure cpu and ram usage during a load test?
[12:47] <L3top> bencc: top
[12:47] <DarkSim_> L3top: I can't see my printer
[12:47] <Sparky_> Command-line? How do I get to that?
[12:47] <L3top> one moment DarkSim
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> Sparky_  a terminal, ctrl-alt-t
[12:47] <Sparky_> ah
[12:48] <Sparky_> Yeah I know Terminal lol
[12:48] <bencc> L3top: can I save top results to a file?
[12:48] <Sparky_> Argh
[12:49] <Sparky_> "Your computer has 0 bytes disc space left"
[12:49] <vlt> bencc: "top -n 1" or something like that. See manpage.
[12:49] <uzumati> Anyone can you tell me how to get sensor for Intel HD 3000  VGA ?
[12:49] <Sparky_> Ubuntu hasn't been pleasing me lately -_-
[12:49] <bencc> vlt: L3top: thanks
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> bencc  top | tee blah      then you see top and it creates a file called blah
[12:50] <anon_> Would it be possible for the developers of Ubuntu to integrate Yacy into Ubuntu so even Ubuntu beginners don'tg have to use Google anymore ? http://yacy.net
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> anon_  what's yacy?
[12:51] <Sparky_> Aff
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> !brainstorm| anon_
[12:51] <anon_> MonkeyDust, it is an anonymous, distributed search engine.
[12:51] <Sparky_> When I installed Ubuntu, I installed it alongside XP, and XP is taking up all my disc space, how do I delete it?
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> anon_  you mean like duckduckgo?
[12:52] <anon_> MonkeyDust, with it you can search the Internet anonymously whereas Google tracks your every move.
[12:52] <RAITAR> I also want to ask this question
[12:52] <aristidesfl> I restarted my machine and now can't connect via ssh `ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.4 port 22: Connection refused`
[12:52] <Sparky_> 192.169.1.4 is a local IP
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> anon_  offtopic: https://duckduckgo.com/privacy.html
[12:52] <aristidesfl> Sparky_ I'm in a local network
[12:52] <mschr> l3top perhaps this will help ? http://pastebin.com/jyXGDyEK
[12:53] <anon_> If Linux is the counterpart to Windows then yacy is the counterpart to Google yacy.ne
[12:53] <anon_> net
[12:53] <tehNewb> hi guys/girls
[12:53] <anon_> MonkeyDust, is duckduckgo distributed or in the hand of one organization?
[12:53] <anon_> yacy.net
[12:53] <tehNewb> i'm new at ubuntu and have a little problem. can someone explain me why i can't start the live version of ubuntu on my laptop?
[12:53] <tehNewb> it works at my pc
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> anon_  guess you can read it on the ddg pages
[12:54] <Sparky_> UGH
[12:54] <tehNewb> but the laptops wont boot from usb stick.. but i changed it in the bios :s
[12:54] <aristidesfl> Sparky_ I've disabled gnome but have xorg enabled, how can I access a terminal?
[12:55] <Sparky_> Can someone tell me how to clear my disc so I can install Ubuntu with a completely clean slate?
[12:55] <thaurwylth> I've had problems with mini laptop stick boot as well earlier. Live CD worked.
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> Sparky_  use gparted, delete the partition you need
[12:55] <thaurwylth> This was with 11.10. With 12.04, also the stick started working.
[12:55] <Sparky_> aristidesfl, I dunno o_o I'm no Ubuntu wiz, I started using it yesterday lol
[12:55] <Sparky_> I wanna just delete it all
[12:55] <Sparky_> I don't have anything important on my computer
[12:55] <Sparky_> lol
[12:56] <thaurwylth> So in a nutshell the answer would be, laptop stick boot works in mysterious ways.
[12:56] <anon_> MonkeyDust, as expected it is in the hand of one organization. Promises of privacy are nonsense.
[12:56] <tehNewb> @laurwylth my netbook has no cd drive
[12:56] <aristidesfl> Sparky_ use the installation disk/usb
[12:56] <Sparky_> I have a USB with Ubuntu on it, I just don't know how to wipe my computer clean of everything
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> anon_  you can use brainstorm then, type !brainstorm to repeat the factoid
[12:57] <thaurwylth> Sparky, you can do that during the installation.
[12:57] <Sparky_> Really?
[12:57] <Sparky_> How do I do it?
[12:57] <thaurwylth> Yes. You don't need to pre-empty yuour machine.
[12:58] <thaurwylth> Wait a second.
[12:58] <Sparky_> Oh how convinient lol
[12:58] <anon_> !brainstorm
[12:58] <DarkSim> How is it going over there L3top?
[13:00] <thaurwylth> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/dual-boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/   <== ctrl + f Next, choose the option highlighted below (Something else) and click ‘Continue’
[13:00] <alexander_> how to make dell latitude e5520 see its own mic?
[13:00] <thaurwylth> That third option, the Something else option, allows you to reallocate disk space.
[13:00] <Sparky_> o.o
[13:00] <thaurwylth> At that point, you can wipe out all existing stuff from the disk.
[13:00] <Sparky_> Could you put that in noob language XD
[13:01] <thaurwylth> Let's see. I'm not sure whether there's a thorough tutorial of it online.
[13:01] <Sparky_> Hrm :/
[13:02] <Sparky_> Dual boot windows 7 and Ubuntu? What does Windows 7 have to do with it?
[13:02] <m0ss> windows 7 is le poop
[13:02] <thaurwylth> In any case, as you start your live CD/stick/what-gangsta-evah, soon you will see that three-option screen. At least regular Ubuntu install does that. Then --
[13:02] <thaurwylth> Dual boot is not important here.
[13:03] <Sparky_> Ok
[13:03] <thaurwylth> The image of the three options was what I was after.
[13:03] <thaurwylth> I just recalled that it is conveniently on that page.
[13:03] <Sparky_> So, I guess I will just plugin my USB and install and hope for the best :3
[13:03] <thaurwylth> Wait a second.
[13:03] <Sparky_> Mm?
[13:03] <thaurwylth> You will first need to make some notes on how to set up the disk space.
[13:03] <Sparky_> oh ok
[13:03] <thaurwylth> Or make sure that you have another computer with IRC available.
[13:04] <Sparky_> lol I do
[13:04] <thaurwylth> Oh, then you can fire away, I guess.
[13:04] <Sparky_> Ok :P
[13:04] <Sparky_> Wish me luck XD
[13:05] <thaurwylth> Just remember that 'Something else' option, it will allow you to do stuff for the disk space.
[13:06] <thaurwylth> My choices, which I guess are hugely old-fashioned today, are typically a tri-partition of the disk: one part for /, one part for swap and one, the biggest part for /home .
[13:07] <alexander_> why is Settings->Sound->Input disabled (dell lat. e5520)?
[13:07] <thaurwylth> But hey, people, I actually came here because I have a question myself. This is about Win 7 double-boot. Please allow me to skim through the Code of Conduct and FAQ first...
[13:10] <HelloWorld321> alexander_ : probably because it doesn't detect your microphone ((sound input device)
[13:11] <thaurwylth> OK. Here goes. My problem is sort of this backwards. 'I installed Windows (or another Operating System) and now I can't get into Ubuntu! See the RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows page.' Let me elaborate.
[13:11] <DarkSim> L3top: Are you here?
[13:11] <HelloWorld321> alexander_: do you have one?
[13:11] <[dlp]> Hi all... is there a PPA for more up-to-date mainline kernels?
[13:11] <[dlp]> The daily build PPA looks defunct.
[13:11] <alexander_> yes, according to specifications it comes with one (or many)
[13:12] <LjL> !mainline | [dlp]
[13:12] <[dlp]> Thanks.
[13:12] <thaurwylth> This machine has two disk and FIRST, Win 7 was installed on one and both disks were made NTFS. Then I - without doing anything pre-emptive for the disks inside Windows, sorry for this - stuck in Ubu 12.04 Live and made the empty disk NTFS ==> Ext4 and installed Ubuntu there and GRUB to the boot sector of the remaining Windows disk. TO BE CONTINUED --
[13:13] <automaciej> I'm trying to track down the current state of pitivi. There's a bug which says "fix released". https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pitivi/+bug/1001516 -- but this is only to precise-proposed. There's a page with an automatically generated list of packages in the process of SRU: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html -- and it doesn't mention pitivi.
[13:14] <thaurwylth> Now GRUB boots just fine, Ubuntu boots just fine, and I have set also the Windows disk to mount to Ubuntu via /etc/fstab . CONTINUED --
[13:14] <thaurwylth> However, when I tried to do a Windows boot, it crashes. I guess this is due to the other disk being 'done stuff to' so that the Windows system information is now incompatible.
[13:15] <thaurwylth> The Windows install I have there is fresh, so I could just well do another install, but I'd try to avoid it, if possible, because then I will have to do also a GRUB reinstall. So are there any easier workarounds for me?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> thaurwylth, grub should have been installed on the kubuntu disk , it would have detected the windows mbr on the other disk , if not sudo update-grub would probly have picked it up
[13:16] <HelloWorld321> alexander_: I've gotten you as far as I go (I don't go very far).  You probably need to install drivers for your sound device.  Find out what sound device you have, and then ask again how to install it.
[13:17] <thaurwylth> Yes, it recognizes the Windows boot just fine. The problems start, when the Windows boot loader kicks in.
[13:19] <BluesKaj> thaurwylth, the mistake was to install grub in the windows boot sector
[13:19] <thaurwylth> This is only me guessing, but I think that the problem is as follows. Windows has stored system information and it thinks that hey, by golly, I should have two NTFS disks here. However, since my Ubuntu installation this has changed. So system information does not match with existing reality ==> crash.
[13:19] <thaurwylth> I see.
[13:20] <DarkSim> Craaaaap
[13:21] <achirura_> hey i'm using Xubuntu and i've got Creative Soundblaster 5.1 Vx soundcard my problem is when i try to listen music or talk in skype sounds coming 2x faster or more and i cant really understand whats going on... anyone can help me?
[13:21] <BluesKaj> installing grub on the kubuntu disk as if it was an independent install works , grub will pick up thgew windows mbr on the other disk during the grub update
[13:21] <BluesKaj> thaurwylth, ^
[13:22] <thaurwylth> So you don't think changing one of the disks from NTFS to Ext4 is part of the problem at all?
[13:22] <BluesKaj> no
[13:22] <inashdeen> hi, can someone point me how do i connect to xkb developer
[13:23] <thaurwylth> Will I be able to fix also the Windows MBR without a reinstall? I know that getting GRUB on the other disk should be easy; if nothing else, I can also hack it from the Live stick.
[13:23] <NsrUbuntu> hi
[13:24] <tezter> hi
[13:24] <BluesKaj> thaurwylth, however windows looks for the /dev/sda/ partition no matter which disk has theat designationeven if it's ext or ntfs
[13:24] <tezter> how to check the load of each process shown with `top`? (not RAM, but load, on a 1-core VPS)
[13:25] <alankila> tezter: the % estimate given by top is not sufficient for you?
[13:25] <gaelfx> I'm using NFS to access my /home on my main box from my laptops around the house, the /home is on an external HD connected via USB3.0, and sometimes when my client connects, it's really slow, other times it's perfectly fine, can anyone help me diagnose or possibly solve this issue?
[13:25] <BluesKaj> thaurwylth, I'm not sure but perhaps the repair windows optionwith windows install will rstore the mbr
[13:25] <thaurwylth> By the way, goddamnit, it seems that for some reason the Windows system information and, well, full install in general has been done on /dev/sdb . This was done before I got my hands on this computer.
[13:26] <BluesKaj> restore
[13:26] <NsrUbuntu> I need help related to Usb 3g modem .. please PM me
[13:26] <tezter> alankila: whenever nagios was warning me about high load, i checked with top and not any of the processes was suspicious.
[13:26] <thaurwylth> And, thus, my Ubuntu disk is now /dev/sda . Is this a problem?
[13:26] <alankila> tezter: yes, because load doesn't really relate to CPU use that well.
[13:27] <alankila> tezter: load average is the average number of processes in runnable state, but if they don't run for whatever reason they give a high load average. Often slow i/o causes this, as the processes are runnable but have to wait for disk
[13:27] <tezter> alankila: how else can i find out the bad process? i am pretty sure apache+mysql are OK, but have no idea about postfix and others.
[13:27] <BluesKaj> thaurwylth, not if you managed to install windows onm sdb , however that's probly how kubuntu sees the disk , and windows may see it as sda
[13:28] <alankila> tezter: look for processes that are either in R or D state as shown by top, frequently at the top when measured by cpu usage too
[13:28] <alankila> tezter: also try a program called iotop (may need to be installed first)
[13:28] <tezter> io is fine. i checked this already.
[13:29] <BluesKaj> er ubuntu
[13:30] <dkmt> hi~
[13:30] <tezter> no peaks if no backup is being written at the moment. the downtimes or issues happen at any time, around 3-6 days of running. no peak times, hardly any traffic.
[13:30] <BluesKaj> thaurwylth, the situation I described above happened to me
[13:30] <thaurwylth> OK. Thanks for the help. I'll try to reinstall GRUB on a different MBR, then repair the Windows MBR. I'll also manually take notes of the partition UUID's - at least in the past this has been an important precaution.
[13:30] <n105> why i have only two screen resolution
[13:31] <alankila> tezter: checked if you are swapping yet?
[13:31] <alankila> tezter: also a popular reason for high load averages
[13:31] <alexander_> downloaded an audio driver for latitude which has a deb-archive and a sh-script (to fix mic problem). Packegs is  alsa-driver-hda-krug-ubuntu-audio-dev-dkms. How to install?
[13:31] <tezter> (real) RAM usage between 50 and 75%, no warnings. swap around 60MB.
[13:31] <alankila> tezter: I rather mean swapping in dynamic sense, if pages are moving in and out of swap
[13:32] <tezter> alankila: oom-killer was not active.
[13:32] <alankila> although if there's around 50 % free then probably not.
[13:32] <alankila> out of ideas anyway
[13:33] <tezter> alankila: me, too. thanks for the tipp with R/D flag in top. i will try to check it when it happens next time. hard to research because nagious is only telling about the total load in last 5 minutes etc., no hint for the "bad" process there.
[13:34] <alankila> tezter: my guess is that it's either swapping or something that slows disk access to much that processes get to waiting. i/o is a common reason for load average that is high while cpu usage is not.
[13:34] <NsrUbuntu> how to register ?
[13:35] <BluesKaj> !register
[13:35] <Latika> wow
[13:35] <BluesKaj> NsrUbuntu,^
[13:35] <DarkSim> Where did L3top go? :(
[13:36] <gaelfx> I'm using NFS to access my /home on my main box from my laptops around the house, the /home is on an external HD connected via USB3.0, and sometimes when my client connects, it's really slow, other times it's perfectly fine, can anyone help me diagnose or possibly solve this issue?
[13:37] <n105> why i have only two screen resolution
[13:37] <n105> 800x600 and 1024x800
[13:38] <kristenB> escott: you there?
[13:38] <burg> hello. i am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 from usb stick, but it won't get past the loading screen just after booting from usb
[13:38] <escott> kristenB, yes
[13:38] <kristenB> escott:  :)
[13:38] <kristenB> escott: can we continue our ssh questions? :)
[13:38] <escott> kristenB, sure
[13:39] <alankila> gaelfx: you are using wireless? my guess is that your wi-fi speed fluctuates and that's the cause of the slowdown
[13:39] <kristenB> escott: I didn't do anything since you left, I went to bed too.
[13:39] <kristenB> escott: so my question was that I wanted to connect to C through B for rsync.
[13:40] <DarkSim> I'm never gonna be able to use Ubuntu in this pace
[13:40] <m0ss> hi
[13:40] <escott> kristenB, yeah
[13:40] <mschr> l3top gave up :? http://pastebin.com/jyXGDyEK
[13:41] <DarkSim> I can't find him, he has been missing for over an hour
[13:41] <escott> kristenB, so you need to create a Host entry in the config file for C and mention B in the ProxyCommand declaration
[13:42] <escott> DarkSim, refresh the channel on your problem
[13:42] <DarkSim> I'm trying to use a Canon Laser Shot LBP-1120, but it doesn't work
[13:42] <kristenB> escott: so that would be in .etc/known_hosts ?
[13:42] <escott> kristenB, no in ~/.ssh/config
[13:42] <DarkSim> I tried a lot of drivers before but I couldnt get it to print anything, so I went for a fresh reinstallation
[13:43] <escott> DarkSim, what was L3top having you try
[13:43] <DarkSim> But then L3top, who was helping, dissappeared
[13:43] <DarkSim> He said that I should try to print something, but it doesn't find my printer
[13:44] <kristenB> escott: how can I specify the port of C?
[13:44] <phoebus_> power consumption in ubuntu 12.04 is higher!!
[13:45] <escott> DarkSim, does the printer appear in https://localhost:631
[13:45] <DarkSim> escott: Nope
[13:45] <escott> kristenB, I think there is a Port declaration under Host
[13:46] <burg> anybody had the same problem?
[13:46] <escott> kristenB, http://linux.die.net/man/5/ssh_config
[13:46] <thaurwylth> Except that... What is the easiest way to get GRUB reinstalled on a different MBR? Can I simply edit something in /etc/default/grub and run update-grub?
[13:47] <DarkSim> escott: I think L3top guided me to install there drivers though: http://www.canon.se/Support/Consumer_Products/products/printers/Laser/Laser_Shot_LBP-1120.aspx?DLtcmuri=tcm:87-846510&page=1&type=download
[13:47] <DarkSim> So I should have the drivers installed
[13:47] <ertigo> Hello , I want application , system etc on top in ubuntu 12.04 instead of icons on the left. Is it possible ?
[13:48] <kristenB> escott: Is it usePrivilegedPort ?
[13:48] <escott> DarkSim, what files did that create
[13:48] <DarkSim> escott: What files?
[13:48] <gaelfx> alankila: yeah, using wireless, but I've monitored the connection and it's steady
[13:49] <escott> DarkSim, the file you installed from canon, what files did it create and install?
[13:49] <DarkSim> escott: I don't know, I have also rebooted after that like L3top told me to do
[13:50] <DarkSim> I just ran it with the terminal
[13:50] <alankila> gaelfx: yeah I can get around 8 MB/s over a wireless link here in a steady way when in same room with the server and its wireless card, but put a few walls in between and the link's speed fluctuates quite a bit for me
[13:51] <escott> kristenB, i think all you need is that proxy command
[13:51] <alankila> gaelfx: if you can prove that simultaneously while NFS speed is low, other transfers are unaffected, then that's a good way to be sure that the wireless is not the cause of the slowdown. (Not sure how you monitor the connection.)
[13:52] <kristenB> escott: ok
[13:52] <escott> kristenB, but it would be something like Host C HostName whatever Port 22 ProxyCommand B:2000
[13:53] <kristenB> escott: I also need to set up a passwordless connection between B and C then ?
[13:54] <DarkSim> Why must a printer cause so much trouble :(
[13:54] <escott> kristenB, yes you will want that. all you need to do is run ssh-keygen and ssh-copy-id on B to C
[13:54] <kav> !dhcp
[13:55] <Priyantha> How is your printer connected DarkSim ?
[13:55] <DarkSim> USB
[13:55] <DarkSim> Priyantha: ^
[13:55] <Priyantha> Okay
[13:55] <kristenB> escott:  this time I can just keep the default name for id_rsa ?
[13:56] <escott> kristenB, yes
[13:56] <Priyantha> what was the exact type again DarkSim ?
[13:56] <kristenB> escott: then ssh-copy-id is to be run on B or C ?
[13:56] <DarkSim> Priyantha: Canon Laser Shot LBP-1120
[13:56] <escott> kristenB, on B to C ssh-copy-id user@C
[13:56] <Priyantha> thx mate :)
[13:57] <DarkSim> There is a guide with the drivers I downloaded but I couldn't follow it through
[13:57] <DarkSim> Maybe that will help you
[13:57] <kristenB> escott: how can I add the port specification in that command ? Is it just -p %portnumber ?
[13:58] <nitin> can any body help me to configure 3g USB modem
[13:58] <escott> kristenB, the ProxyCommand should be a normal ssh command
[13:58] <Priyantha> DarkSim: http://software.canon-europe.com/software/0040567.asp?model=
[13:58] <Priyantha> did you download that one ?
[13:58] <DarkSim> Priyantha: http://www.canon.se/Support/Consumer_Products/products/printers/Laser/Laser_Shot_LBP-1120.aspx?DLtcmuri=tcm:87-846510&page=1&type=download
[13:58] <kristenB> escott: I'm not talking about the ProxyCommand, sorry for the confusion. I was talking about ssh-copy-id
[13:59] <escott> kristenB, if its not 22 then yes
[13:59] <kristenB> escott:  I tried t and I get Bad port 'umask 077; test -d ~/.ssh || mkdir ~/.ssh ; cat >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys'
[14:00] <DarkSim> Priyantha: Seems like mine is a bit newer, the site is in swedish though
[14:00] <kav> Priyanthat : !dhcp    .Can you clear this statement .Please
[14:00] <Priyantha> ah that one is even newer DarkSim :)
[14:00] <Priyantha> I see
[14:01] <escott> kristenB, you can also do it through scp. you can see from the above that ssh-copy-id is just a shell script
[14:01] <Priyantha> are you running 32bits DarkSim ?
[14:01] <kav> Priyantha : !dhcp    .Can you clear this statement .Please
[14:01] <DarkSim> Priyantha: L3top guided me so I navigated into the 32-bit debian folder in that folder
[14:01] <DarkSim> Priyantha: yes 32
[14:01] <papna> I'm having trouble with an 11.10 install; there appears to be some kernel installation/dependency issue. The output of dpkg --configure -a shows the issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069431/
[14:01] <Priyantha> what statement kav ?
[14:01] <DarkSim> Priyantha: and I installed those two files I guess
[14:01] <kav> !dhcp
[14:02] <Priyantha> ah okay
[14:02] <kristenB> escott: so I just to send the .pub, right ?
[14:02] <Priyantha> I don't understand your question kav
[14:02] <Priyantha> mmm strange DarkSim
[14:02] <Priyantha> the printer gui even doesn't reconize the printer ?
[14:02] <kav> dhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, a protocol for automatic IP assignment from a router. Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP	
[14:02] <escott> kristenB, yes
[14:02] <orogor> hi here
[14:02] <DarkSim> Priyantha: Have look inside, there should be a guide, maybe it'll enlighten you
[14:03] <kav> here , Ubuntu use dhclient : means what ?
[14:03] <DarkSim> Priyantha: In the docs folder it is zipped up
[14:03] <Priyantha> ah yes I see
[14:03] <orogor> my workstation wont  save the dns config using resolv.conf , where would i change it?
[14:03] <kristenB> escott:  and where do I put it in C and under what name ?
[14:03] <escott> kristenB, whatever name you want log in as
[14:03] <kav> Priyantha :Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos.   : i have doubt in this line
[14:04] <paulus68> is there a way to upgrade to 12.04 server without having to reinstall all the programs?
[14:04] <Priyantha> DarkSim: you did follow that guide ?
[14:04] <DarkSim> I have tried
[14:04] <DarkSim> but some of the commands didn't work out
[14:04] <kristenB> escott: come again? In what directory of C do I put the rsa_id file in, and should I change its name to something more appropriate ?
[14:05] <Priyantha> guide-capt-2.4xUK/contents/main_02_01.html#main_02_01
[14:05] <Priyantha> that location
[14:05] <Priyantha> if you have extracted that guide-capt file
[14:05] <escott> kristenB, the .pub should be added to the contents of the authorized_keys file of the user on C you want to login as
[14:05] <DarkSim> Priyantha: Yes
[14:06] <kristenB> kristenB: oh so it's not added as a file ?
[14:06] <Priyantha> kav: and what have I to do with that ? ;)
[14:06] <Priyantha> mmmm
[14:06] <DarkSim> Priyantha: I had problems with the CUPS restart, Spooler and onward
[14:06] <chrisalk13> Hi have a video related question
[14:06] <Priyantha> what kind of error did you get with restarting cups DarkSim ?
[14:07] <kav> Priyantha : i want to understand networking , so i need to understand that  line ... I have some doubt about DHCP
[14:07] <chrisalk13> i am running 12.04 on an Acer Aspire 5610, the video freezes and the sound 'skips' until I move the mouse.  This happens both online and on DVD
[14:07] <DarkSim> Priyantha: I'm not sure if it was a problem more than that I just didn't know if I did it correctly
[14:07] <chrisalk13> have to go i'll try again later...ty
[14:08] <Priyantha> okay :)
[14:08] <DarkSim> So if this guide is correct Priyantha, let's continue of the step Restart CUPS
[14:08] <kav> hey ! DarkSim ... Can you also help me to understand that line          ?
[14:08] <DarkSim> I have used Ubuntu approx. 12 hours
[14:08] <DarkSim> I have no idea :P
[14:08] <Priyantha> well kav, what DHCP is, it is a service which provide you for example a IP address, Gateway, subnet and stuff
[14:08] <Priyantha> and also DNS addresses
[14:09] <DarkSim> Priyantha: Pretty please?
[14:10] <kav> Priyantha : Sorry ! but i know all this , but i want to understand meaning of that line
[14:10] <Newb> Hi, If I have written a php script, should I just be able to open in it firefox?
[14:10] <kav> Hey ! Priyantha ...1st help DarkSim
[14:10] <papna> Newb: Not and have it do anything. You'd need to set up a server that knows what to do with it.
[14:11] <kristenB> escott: ok so I just added the content of B's rsa_id to C's authorized_keys
[14:11] <Newb> papna, How can I test it without a server
[14:11] <Adminkid> Is there a way that I can go to a room with Arch Linux in it. Because all the rooms that I been going to they dont have people in them:(
[14:11] <Priyantha> yes DarkSim :)
[14:11] <DarkSim> Priyantha: Have you read up on the steps, and if so can guide me through them?
[14:11] <Priyantha> yes I did DarkSim
[14:11] <papna> Newb: You cannot, but you can easily set up a server on whatever machine you're using.
[14:11] <Priyantha> /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[14:11] <DarkSim> For the love of God, help me then :P
[14:11] <Priyantha> just do that ? :)
[14:12] <Newb> papna, How?
[14:12] <Priyantha> does it doing something ?
[14:12] <DarkSim> File or catalog doesn't exist
[14:12] <kristenB> escott: now I'm trying to connect from C to A through the B tunnel . I get Bad tun device 'C:Cport'  ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host.
[14:12] <wdp> is*
[14:12] <escott> kristenB, the .pub
[14:12] <DarkSim> Priyantha: File or catalog does not exist
[14:12] <Priyantha> mmmmm
[14:12] <papna> Newb: There are bound to be hundreds of instructions on the internet that would tell you more accurately than I could.
[14:12] <Adminkid> What is the room for Arch Linux???
[14:12] <kristenB> escott: yes that's what I meant, it's a typo but I did it correctly
[14:12] <Priyantha> and /etc/init.d/cups restart
[14:13] <Priyantha> I think it is not named cupsys ;)
[14:13] <Priyantha> here in Debian it is cups
[14:13] <escott> kristenB, so the connection from B to C works without the password then
[14:13] <Priyantha> so in Ubuntu it should be too I think
[14:13] <Adminkid> Hello anyone going to help me???
[14:13] <kristenB> escott: yes it does I've tried it
[14:13] <DarkSim> Priyantha: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069455/
[14:13] <papna> Adminkid: What's the name of the guy on second base.
[14:13] <Priyantha> Adminkid: /j #archlinux
[14:14] <Priyantha> Adminkid: #archlinux is the ArchLinux channel
[14:14] <kristenB> escott: oh but not from A to B
[14:14] <Priyantha> going to look at it now DarkSim
[14:14] <HelloWorld321> Adminkid: I googled it for you https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/IRC_Channel it is #archlinux on irc.freenode.net
[14:14] <DarkSim> Priyantha: I guess it wants me to write sudo service cups restart or something?
[14:14] <Priyantha> mmm that last line is strange
[14:14] <Priyantha> ye
[14:14] <Priyantha> yes
[14:14] <kristenB> escott: I had only done it from B to A yesterday, that's why, right?
[14:14] <Priyantha> you have :)
[14:14] <FloodBot1> Priyantha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:14] <Priyantha> you have to use sudo in front of it yes
[14:15] <escott> kristenB, then the entry in A's config should be Host C HostName C.internal.id ProxyCommand ssh A -W %h:%p
[14:15] <kav> !lo >kav
[14:15] <escott> kristenB, then the entry in A's config should be Host C HostName C.internal.id ProxyCommand ssh B -W %h:%p
[14:15] <DarkSim> Priyantha: Sudo + what you wrote earlier or sudo+that I wrote?
[14:15] <Priyantha> Adminkid: why did you leave #archlinux ?
[14:15] <Priyantha> yes "sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart"
[14:16] <jesper_> Hey. I was wondering if someone could help me out. I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop using a USB stick, but the install fails with a sequence of error messages, the last one being "ata 7: hard resetting link". I suspect it's something to do with my SSD. I don't have an HDD.
[14:16] <escott> kristenB, yes you might also want to run ssh-keygen and ssh-copy-id to put your public key on A into B
[14:16] <DarkSim> Priyantha: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069461/
[14:16] <Adminkid> Priyantha: Because I could not talk on it it did not let me send a message
[14:16] <paulus68> is there a way to upgrade to 12.04 server without having to reinstall all the programs? at have "more or les a clean install
[14:16] <Priyantha> jesper_: I had the some issues, the issue here was a b0rked usb-stick
[14:17] <DarkSim> jesper_: I tried to use USB stick to install this, CD worked a lot better, try that
[14:17] <Priyantha> Adminkid: maybe you needed more time ?
[14:17] <Priyantha> looking at it DarkSim
[14:17] <jesper_> I've tried with a CD as well, but I get the same problem
[14:17] <Priyantha> yeah DarkSim ! that looks great  mate :)
[14:17] <ChandlerHeat> Question for the group:  Is there any way to get right to the GRUB options on boot-repair without having to do a time-consuming scan?  All I want to do is add the pci=noapci parameter.
[14:17] <DarkSim> Priyantha: So that is step 4 complete?
[14:17] <Priyantha> yes DarkSim :)
[14:18] <Priyantha> no step 5 :)
[14:18] <DarkSim> Priyantha: Now*?
[14:18] <jesper_> Priyantha: i've tried it waith two different usb stick (one of them brand new), as well as a CD - same message in all cases
[14:18] <Priyantha> DarkSim: yes now :)
[14:19] <kristenB> escott: I've tried the tunnel, it works now. But I need to type two passwords, B and C. To get B without password, all I need is to set up ssh-keygen. But why does it ask C password, since it doesn't from B?
[14:19] <Priyantha> jesper_: strange, than is your hdd/ssd the biggest suspect :(
[14:20] <escott> kristenB, perhaps the agent is being forwarded. you might want to add A's pub to C's auth_key.
[14:20] <DarkSim> Priyantha: sudo /usr/sbin/lpadmin -p LBP-1120 -m CNCUPSLBP1120CAPTK.ppd -v ccp://localhost:59687 –E
[14:20] <jesper_> Priyantha: the weird thing is though that windows 7 says the ssd is fine, and windows 7 also installed without a glitch
[14:20] <Priyantha> DarkSim: yes exactly yes :)
[14:20] <DarkSim> Priyantha: I read somewhere that that port is not actual either, do you know what it should be?
[14:20] <orogor> my workstation wont  save the dns config using resolv.conf , where would i change it?
[14:21] <DarkSim> Priyantha: the ccp://localhost:59687 part?
[14:21] <kristenB> escott: I would rather not have the forwarding, and connect as B. Is that not possible ?
[14:21] <Priyantha> I thin it is 631 DarkSim
[14:21] <Priyantha> that's the default port
[14:21] <escott> kristenB, you should be able to disable agent forwarding in the config file
[14:21] <Priyantha> although whait
[14:21] <Priyantha> that port
[14:22] <DarkSim> Priyantha: ccp://localhost:631
[14:22] <Priyantha> that port should be the port of the deamon of the canon tool
[14:22] <Priyantha> I think
[14:22] <Priyantha> wait a sec ok :)
[14:22] <DarkSim> Priyantha: Ok
[14:22] <DarkSim> Priyantha: Just don't dissappear like the last guy did
[14:22] <Priyantha> no I don't ;)
[14:22] <BluesKaj> orogor, in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[14:22] <bastidrazor> !upgrade | paulus68
[14:22] <DarkSim> Been here all day for christ sake lol
[14:23] <proby> hello , when i login only the mouse cursor shows , am havin gnome 2.3 and compiz as windows manager
[14:23] <kav> Priyantha : have he plug Printer in Computer
[14:23] <kristenB> escott: how ?
[14:23] <kristenB> escott: also, I've noticed that when I get to C from A, one exit logs me off immediately and gets to A. I don't know if that's expected, but I would have expected to get to B first, and then after another exit, get to A.
[14:23] <DarkSim> A perfectly good Sunday, for what? A godforsaken Canon printer in a Linux enviroment!!!
[14:23] <escott> kristenB, ForwardAgent no
[14:23] <kav> DarkSim : sorry ! bro !
[14:23] <escott> kristenB, thats the proxy command
[14:23] <kristenB> escott: in ssh/.config of A ?
[14:24] <escott> kristenB, yes
[14:24] <kav> DarkSim : try this one                             chkconfig cups on
[14:24] <escott> kristenB, you never establish a shell on B, it directly connects the output of A->B to the input of B->C
[14:24] <DarkSim> kav: What does it do?
[14:24] <Priyantha> DarkSim: I see that those Canon printers are quite a nightmare in Linux environments :(
[14:25] <Priyantha> give me some more time plz ;)
[14:25] <DarkSim> No shit Sherlock :P
[14:25] <kav> it activate the service of your printer
[14:25] <kristenB> escott: but even after the connection is established to C, all the (encrypted) traffic goes through B, right ?
[14:25] <papna> I'm having issues with my kernel install, which makes me uneasy about the state of this machine and unable to install anything http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069476/
[14:26] <escott> kristenB, yes, but there is no shell on B. so when you exit on C then C closes its end of the ssh from B->C and B closes its end of the ssh, and since ssh was the only thing you were running on B it closes its end of A->B
[14:26] <Priyantha> DarkSim: you may look at this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1315665
[14:26] <kav> DarkSim : hey ! can i see your output  for chkconfig --list
[14:26] <Priyantha> there they are talking about compiling the drivers instead using the Canon binaries
[14:27] <Priyantha> And I do think that that can help maybe
[14:27] <kristenB> escott: just for information, in a more advanced setup, would it have been possible to allow only forwarding on B, and not getting a shell?
[14:27] <DarkSim> kav the first command (chkconfig cups on) tells me that
[14:27] <DarkSim> chkconfig is not isntalled
[14:28] <kristenB> escott: that is to say, in B's config, let A connect to C, but don't allow A to connect to B.
[14:28] <kav> install it ...Its only  about 200 kb
[14:28] <escott> kristenB, sure. the same way you put command=/bin/false on A, you could put a command="ssh -W " on B
[14:28] <kav> Aha ..   suso apt-get install chkconfig
[14:28] <kav> sudo apt-get install chkconfig
[14:29] <DarkSim> done
[14:29] <kav> chklist -cups -list
[14:29] <kav> sorry
[14:29] <kristenB> escott: that's cool.
[14:29] <proby> hello , when i login only the mouse cursor shows , am havin gnome 2.3 and compiz as windows manager
[14:29] <jdhicks67> I am looking for help installing ubuntu 12.04 on a fresh build wiht no other operating systoms installed
[14:29] <kav> chkconfig cups --list
[14:29] <proby> openbox
[14:30] <DarkSim> kav: cups                      0:off  1:off  2:off  3:off  4:off  5:off  6:off
[14:30] <kristenB> escott: does the host file also apply to scp ?
[14:30] <escott> kristenB, yes
[14:30] <kav> chkconfig cups on
[14:31] <mschr> I have got no HDMI audio, power meters pulse, playback seems fine but no audio... FIXME : http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=0LJBQAvt
[14:31] <kav> DarkSim : have you done
[14:32] <DarkSim> kav: /sbin/insserv: File or catalog does not exist
[14:32] <oCean> kav: what are you trying to do? Are you confident this will help DarkSim? Ubuntu uses "upstart" replacing the old Sys V Init system
[14:32] <oCean> so chkconfig is really of no value for regular upstart scripts
[14:32] <Priyantha> I am sure that it is not going to help him
[14:32] <kristenB> escott: When I do ssh-keygen, the end of the .pub ends with myname@mymachine. Could I put any random string in there ?
[14:33] <Priyantha> I am going to reboot, see ya all in a minute of 2 ;)
[14:33] <kav> Well, ... i want to activate cups service permanently
[14:33] <oCean> !upstart | kav
[14:33] <oCean> kav: suggesting chkconfig will not help that
[14:34] <kav> ok ok ! i get it
[14:34] <escott> kristenB, i dont know
[14:34] <kav> /etc/init.d/cups start
[14:34] <thaurwylth> BluesKaj
[14:34] <DarkSim> I'm supposed to find if this localport is correct
[14:34] <DarkSim> sudo /usr/sbin/lpadmin -p LBP-1120 -m CNCUPSLBP1120CAPTK.ppd -v ccp://localhost:59687 –E
[14:34] <thaurwylth> Thanks for the help. It worked out exactly as you stated.
[14:35] <oCean> kav: you are very welcome to help others, that is appreciated. But let others know how confident you are that you're offering an actual solution
[14:35] <Saiki> [09:10] <Saiki> [Sun Jul 01 08:36:35 2012] [notice] child pid 9846 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)   <how do I fix this error? my web pages aren't showing up
[14:35] <thaurwylth> I didn't even have to do anything to the Windows MBR after simply doing grub-install /dev/sda and update-grub.
[14:35] <Priyantha> back :)
[14:35] <kav> O ! well, i'm very very sorry again
[14:36] <Eagleman> What is creating this route? default         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    100    0        0 eth0
[14:36] <kristenB> escott: ok nevermind. I tried to put ForwardAgent no in A's ssh config, but it still asks me for a password if I connect from A to C, although it doesn't from B to C. It looks like it still knows that A is not B.
[14:36] <DarkSim> How should we find the right localhost port?
[14:36] <escott> kristenB, for RSA1 keys its just a comment
[14:36] <Priyantha> DarkSim: "netstat -anp"
[14:36] <Priyantha> then you'll see all ports for all programs
[14:36] <kristenB> escott: ok thanks
[14:37] <escott> kristenB, you might try it with -v and see what its doing
[14:37] <astanton> I'm running into an issue where httperf on 12.04 claims to be limited by a very low FD_SETSIZE, defaulting to a single socket instead of the provided.  Has anyone figured out a work around for this?
[14:37] <DarkSim> Priyantha: What am I supposed to look for though?
[14:37] <Priyantha> for ccp for example
[14:37] <Priyantha> but copy/paste it in a pastebin plz :)
[14:37] <Priyantha> I'll look for you
[14:38] <sqrrl> how do i restart computer under ubuntu (no reset button, gui or cli)?
[14:38] <DarkSim> Priyantha: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069495/
[14:38] <sqrrl> ctrl-alt-del just prints a bunch of errors
[14:39] <Eagleman> What is creating this route? default         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    100    0        0 eth0
[14:39] <Priyantha> are you sure you copy/pasted everything DarkSim ?
[14:39] <kav> Priyantha : service cups start
[14:39] <DarkSim> I couldn't go any higher up in the terminal
[14:40] <Priyantha> okay DarkSim
[14:40] <Priyantha> to solve that
[14:40] <jdhicks67> i need help installing ubuntu 12.04 on a fresh build?
[14:40] <Priyantha> go to edit>profiles
[14:40] <Priyantha> click on the edit butten of the Default profile
[14:40] <Priyantha> go to the scrolling tab
[14:40] <linuxist> eagleman: isn't that just the route for your subet?
[14:40] <Priyantha> and click on the "unlimited" button
[14:41] <Priyantha> DarkSim: after that run the same command again plz :)
[14:41] <Eagleman> linuxist its the ddefault route, the route to the internet
[14:41] <linuxist> Eagleman:  that would be the other way around - i.e.       0.0.0.0      192.168.1.1    wouldn't it?
[14:42] <Eagleman> yes linuxist but something is creating that route on boot
[14:42] <Eagleman> The route was goodd but i want to ad a new efault route
[14:42] <DarkSim> Priyantha: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069503/
[14:43] <linuxist> Eagleman: just do a "route del default gw 192.168.1.1"
[14:43] <abdya> :)
[14:43] <Priyantha> thx DarkSim
[14:43] <linuxist> Eagleman: put it in /etc/rc.local or something if you can't find out where it's coming from
[14:44] <kav> unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LYSSNAR       21280    -                   /var/run/cups/cups.sock
[14:44] <Eagleman> linuxist i've aded this route before booting:     default         546BCA01.cm-12- 0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth1.10
[14:44] <Eagleman> And when i reboot i get this:    default         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    100    0        0 eth0
[14:44] <linuxist> where are you adding these routes to?
[14:44] <Eagleman> route add and route dell
[14:45] <linuxist> ah yes, well they won't stick around after a reboot
[14:45] <Eagleman> putting then in my interface file will work?
[14:45] <DarkSim> I even did one with sudo Priyantha, since I read that in the beginning
[14:45] <Priyantha> DarkSim: ik don't see the deamon running
[14:45] <DarkSim> Priyantha: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069507/
[14:45] <Priyantha> ah thx
[14:45] <kav> Priyantha :unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LYSSNAR       21280    -                   /var/run/cups/cups.sock
[14:45] <linuxist> yeah in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:46] <Guest64217> eaw
[14:46] <linuxist> eagleman: a quick "man interfaces" should help you out
[14:46] <Eagleman> can i also ad a route dell in the interface file linuxist?
[14:46] <DarkSim> Priyantha: Still guess you'll find nothing
[14:46] <linuxist> eagleman: you shouldn't need to really
[14:46] <Eagleman> I;ve found this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-add-permanent-static-routes-in-ubuntu.html
[14:46] <Priyantha> yes I don't find it no
[14:46] <Priyantha> there should be a process "ccpd  running
[14:46] <DarkSim> Priyantha: So what does that mean?
[14:46] <kav> Her cups port is 21280
[14:47] <Priyantha> can you check if that is running ?
[14:47] <Guest64217> eaw, it's my first time here
[14:47] <Priyantha> "sudo ps aux |grep ccpd"
[14:47] <kristenB> escott: http://pastebin.com/AFqHsqBc
[14:47] <Priyantha> it is returns with nothing it's not running
[14:47] <kav> no ccpd in port number
[14:47] <DarkSim> user    2871  0.0  0.0   5608   832 pts/0    S+   16:47   0:00 grep --color=auto ccpd
[14:47] <Priyantha> okay is not running then
[14:47] <Priyantha> thx DarkSim
[14:48] <linuxist> eagleman: are you using DHCP?
[14:48] <Priyantha> can you try "sudo /etc/init.d/ccpd start"
[14:48] <kav> hey ! linuxist ....What is DHCP
[14:48] <ahoj> Hello, I'm having trouble installing ubuntu 12.04 LTS from an usb. After booting it is stuck at a black screen saying SYSLINUX 4.06 EDD 4.06-pre1 Copyright (c) 1994-2011 H. Peter Anvin et al. Any ideas ?
[14:48] <Priyantha> and after that again "sudo ps aux |grep ccpd"
[14:48] <DarkSim> Priyantha: Starting /usr/sbin/ccpd: .
[14:48] <Priyantha> nice :)
[14:49] <Priyantha> after that the ps aux command plz again :)
[14:49] <Eagleman> linuxist should i show you my interface file?
[14:49] <DarkSim> Priyantha: root      2876  0.0  0.0   6296   996 ?        Ss   16:48   0:00 /usr/sbin/ccpd user     2878  0.0  0.0   5608   836 pts/0    S+   16:49   0:00 grep --color=auto
[14:49] <linuxist> eagleman: just pastebin it pls
[14:49] <hellyeah> can you suggest good ide for html css java script php all in one if possible
[14:49] <linuxist> kav: network aut-configuration
[14:49] <Eagleman> linuxist: http://pastebin.com/vjbEZ1zt
[14:49] <Guest64217> i'm Brazil, if someone it's hacker here, please tell-me- for i have some ideia of how is that here
[14:49] <Priyantha> cool DarkSim :)
[14:49] <Priyantha> we are going there DarkSim
[14:50] <ghostchick> ahoj,  Which usb creator did you used?
[14:50] <Priyantha> plz provide me again with a "sudo netstat -anp"
[14:50] <Saiki> what's the default debugger installed in server edition?
[14:50] <linuxist> eagleman: why do you have those two NIC's on the same subnet?
[14:50] <kav> !dhcp
[14:51] <Eagleman> backup nic linuxist
[14:51] <Guest64217> Please someone give me another server to access, so I know this
[14:51] <Eagleman> i bought it 2 weeks aigo but i didnt really needd it, maybe in the future
[14:51] <DarkSim> Priyantha: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069514/
[14:51] <linuxist> eagleman: ok, there's the potential for the system to get confused there I think
[14:51] <ikonia> Guest64217: this channel is an ubuntu support channel, do you need help with ubuntu ?
[14:51] <kav> linuist : Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos.              ............. can you help me to understand this line
[14:52] <kav> !repos
[14:52] <linuxist> eagleman - best to disable it
[14:52] <Guest64217> how i can install file.theme??
[14:52] <escott> kristenB, its trying A's key to connect to C. i think
[14:52] <DarkSim> Priyantha: I think I found ccpd at the very top
[14:52] <qw[UA]> after update i am no see desktop
[14:52] <ikonia> Guest64217: depends on the type of themes
[14:52] <Eagleman> Thats not what i want linuxist
[14:52] <qw[UA]> his black
[14:52] <kristenB> escott: well that's just wrong, it's not the right lock lol
[14:52] <linuxist> kav: that just means that ubuntu uses a program called dhclient to obtain an address from any available DHCP servers on the network which are capable of issuing network configuration information
[14:53] <Eagleman> I am pretty sure that not the only solution
[14:53] <Guest64217> themes for irssi
[14:53] <linuxist> eagleman: what do you want?
[14:53] <Priyantha> cool DarkSim :)
[14:53] <Priyantha> there should be a portnumber too DarkSim
[14:53] <jdhicks67> hello! i'm looking for elp installing 12.04 on a fresh build can someone plz help?
[14:53] <Eagleman> remove a default route and addd my own
[14:53] <Priyantha> that portnumber is the one you have to use with step5 of the guide
[14:53] <DarkSim> if you look Priyantha, it gives me 2 numbers
[14:53] <Guest64217> what's your question about that?
[14:53] <linuxist> eagleman: for both NICs?
[14:54] <escott> kristenB, just put A's public key on C
[14:54] <Eagleman> I only want a ddefault route for eth0.10 since its the only one allowedd to connect to the internet
[14:54] <papna> Is there a particularly smooth way to migrate my users from one machine to another?
[14:54] <DarkSim> Priyantha: 59787 and 59687
[14:56] <Priyantha> I see DarkSim
[14:56] <linuxist> eagleman: (I'm not 100% sure of this) I think if you're using DHCP, you can't set the default route in the /etc/network/interfaces file
[14:56] <kristenB> escott: but why would I, I don't want that, I want to connect as B.
[14:56] <mschr> I have got no HDMI audio, power meters pulse, playback seems fine but no audio... FIXME : http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=0LJBQAvt
[14:56] <escott> kristenB, why does it matter?
[14:56] <Eagleman> linuxist this is what i've got now:
[14:56] <Eagleman> up route del default dev eth0
[14:56] <Eagleman> up route add default gw 84.107.202.1 dev eth1.10
[14:57] <Priyantha> I think you have to use the latter one DarkSim
[14:57] <Eagleman> in my Interface fule
[14:57] <Priyantha> just follow the guide again I think
[14:57] <summershyn> hello,I'm new here
[14:57] <Priyantha> we have now the daemon up and running
[14:57] <Priyantha> that's what was needed
[14:57] <kristenB> escott: that's what would happen if I did it in two steps, I don't want A's info on C, just on B
[14:57] <hannss> welcome, summershyn
[14:57] <summershyn> thanks
[14:57] <linuxist> eagleman: I don't understand how that will work
[14:57] <linuxist> is that 84.107.202.1 a public address?
[14:58] <linuxist> is your system going to get given a DHCP address on the same subet as that address?
[14:58] <DarkSim> so ok Priyantha: sudo /usr/sbin/lpadmin -p LBP-1120 -m CNCUPSLBP1120CAPTK.ppd -v ccp://localhost:59687 –E
[14:58] <Eagleman> eth0.10 is bridgedd with my router's WAN interfacem so its able to get an extra WAN IP Addddress
[14:58] <kristenB> escott: why would it behave differently whether I get to C in two steps or one ? It's just a trick to have less to write, but the end result should be the same
[14:58] <Priyantha> Yes DarkSim :)
[14:58] <papna> !migrate
[14:59] <linuxist> eagleman: yep, but is your router going to give the correct DHCP information to eth0.10?
[14:59] <DarkSim> Priyantha: lpadmin: Unknown argument "–E".
[14:59] <kristenB> escott: B is work. It's not compromised, but it's work. C is a database of work. I would rather connect to C using my work credential rather than my home's
[14:59] <Eagleman> yes linuxist but i'm not 100% sure
[15:00] <linuxist> eagleman: sounds like this one is beyond me sorry
[15:00] <Priyantha> lol DarkSim ;)
[15:00] <Eagleman> ok. no problem
[15:00] <Eagleman> It took me a week to set it up :P
[15:00] <sparky_> Does anyone here play Assaultcube? Or know how I could get to the Assaultcube folder (Normally  in Program files on windows)
[15:00] <Priyantha> DarkSim: have you installed "cups-client" ?
[15:00] <DarkSim> Priyantha: Sorry if I don't get the funny part ;P
[15:00] <DarkSim> I'm not sure
[15:01] <DarkSim> probably not
[15:01] <Priyantha> if not, please install it "sudo apt-get install cups-client"
[15:01] <Priyantha> because that is essential for having a printer system up and running ;
[15:01] <Priyantha> ;)
[15:01] <DarkSim> Läser paketlistor... Färdig Bygger beroendeträd          Läser tillståndsinformation... Färdig cups-client är redan den senaste versionen. 0 att uppgradera, 0 att nyinstallera, 0 att ta bort och 0 att inte uppgradera.
[15:02] <Priyantha> That means that it is already installed ?
[15:02] <DarkSim> Priyantha: It tells me cups-client is already latest version
[15:02] <DarkSim> nothing to do basically
[15:02] <sparky_> Does anyone here play Assaultcube? Or know how I could get to the Assaultcube folder (Normally  in Program files on windows)
[15:02] <zykotick9> sparky_: if you installed from repo - "dpkg -L assaultcube" should show paths to installed files
[15:03] <Priyantha> okay DarkSim
[15:03] <jdhicks67> hello! i'm looking for help installing 12.04 on a fresh build can someone plz help?
[15:03] <Priyantha> strange
[15:03] <Priyantha> because lpadmin should be in that specific package
[15:03] <Eagleman> Is it possible to use sleep 1 in the interface file?
[15:03] <Priyantha> ah wiat
[15:03] <Priyantha> the "-E' it didn't understand...
[15:03] <Priyantha> mmm
[15:03] <sparky_> What zykotick9 ?
[15:03] <kristenB> escott: I've just read http://linux.die.net/man/5/ssh_config and I don't think adding ForwardAgent No changed anything, it's the default.
[15:04] <jiohdi> sparky_, if you are looking for profile type files then look in your home user folder for hidden files either by that name or under .config
[15:04] <Priyantha> DarkSim: please re-type that "-E"
[15:04] <Priyantha> It's the "-" which is the fault
[15:04] <sparky_> How would I find the hidden files?
[15:04] <DarkSim> Priyantha: Same command but skip the - infront of E?
[15:04] <Priyantha> just a 'normal  "-" is okay
[15:04] <Priyantha> no
[15:04] <kav> -E          The -E (preserve environment) option indicates to the
[15:05] <kav>                    security policy that the user wishes to preserve their
[15:05] <kav>                    existing environment variables.  The security policy may
[15:05] <Priyantha> make a - by your self
[15:05] <kav>                    return an error if the -E option is specified and the user
[15:05] <kav>                    does not have permission to preserve the environment.
[15:05] <FloodBot1> kav: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:05] <Priyantha> not by copy/pasting it from the guide
[15:05] <zykotick9> sparky_: ctrl+h in nautilus i believe
[15:05] <Priyantha> the - from the guid is wrong
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> sparky_  in nautlus: ctrl h     in terminal: ls -la
[15:05] <ghostchick> sparky_,   ctrl + h in nautilus
[15:05] <sparky_> ok
[15:05] <IdleOne> kav: Please learn to use the pastebin
[15:05] <sparky_> What is nautilus lol
[15:05] <TheLordOfTime> !nautilus | sparky_
[15:05] <Sajjad_Kanani> I need Major help, I installed Windows 7 Pro 64 bit yesterday and now want to run Ubuntu 12.04 along side it. I install it through wubi and on the reboot I get a "Prefix is not set error." Please can you help me :)
[15:05] <Priyantha> is de filemanager sparky_
[15:05] <TheLordOfTime> stupid ubottu
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> sparky_  the filemanager
[15:06] <sparky_> Ahhh I found it
[15:06] <zykotick9> !info nautilus
[15:06] <sparky_> :D
[15:06] <Eagleman> Is it possible to use sleep 1 in the interface file?
[15:06] <kav> Priyantha :i'm a newbie ... i just have 6 month experience
[15:06] <DarkSim> YOU GOT TO...RAWAWRAWR!
[15:06] <DarkSim> Canon you imbecils!
[15:06] <Sajjad_Kanani> 	I need Major help, I installed Windows 7 Pro 64 bit yesterday and now want to run Ubuntu 12.04 along side it. I install it through wubi and on the reboot I get a "Prefix is not set error." Please can you help me
[15:06] <zykotick9> Eagleman: i wouldn't think so
[15:06] <ikonia> DarkSim: stop it
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> Sajjad_Kanani  wubi :(
[15:06] <Priyantha> no problem mate kav :)
[15:06] <kav> is ikonia is a bot
[15:06] <ikonia> no
[15:06] <Sajjad_Kanani> wubI?
[15:06] <dancallo> What is Windows?
[15:07] <DarkSim> I've been errorshooting something as stupid as a almost dash which is 1mm longer than the usual dash
[15:07] <kav> ikonia : O ! sorry ...
[15:07] <bazhang> kav, no . use a pastebin in future
[15:07] <Priyantha> exactly DarkSim :P
[15:07] <Sajjad_Kanani> Anyone help me?
[15:07] <DarkSim> I want to punch someone
[15:07] <Priyantha> sorry I didn't knew the dash word haha :P
[15:07] <Priyantha> sorry ;)
[15:07] <ikonia> DarkSim: stop now
[15:07] <Priyantha> I couldn't come up to that word
[15:07] <Sajjad_Kanani> 	I need Major help, I installed Windows 7 Pro 64 bit yesterday and now want to run Ubuntu 12.04 along side it. I install it through wubi and on the reboot I get a "Prefix is not set error." Please can you help me
[15:08] <arvant> hi
[15:08] <Sajjad_Kanani> hi
[15:08] <uzumati> aloha
[15:08] <arvant> how i can install quickly?
[15:08] <kav> DarkSim : go in some fresh air and then come back
[15:08] <arvant> http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/
[15:08] <kav> DarkSim : we are happy to help you
[15:08] <uzumati> arvant: install quickly what ?
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> arvant  install glade
[15:09] <Sajjad_Kanani> anyone know the solution to my problem?
[15:09] <kav> Priyantha : can you help me to understand service management
[15:09] <Priyantha> maybe later okay kav ? :)
[15:09] <Priyantha> sorry
[15:09] <Viman> hello, does anyone know how to use the meta key for keybindings in Xfce?
[15:09] <Sajjad_Kanani> 	I need Major help, I installed Windows 7 Pro 64 bit yesterday and now want to run Ubuntu 12.04 along side it. I install it through wubi and on the reboot I get a "Prefix is not set error." Please can you help me
[15:09] <Priyantha> huh
[15:09] <kav> Priyantha : O k   !
[15:10] <Priyantha> why is DarkSim gone now ?
[15:10] <arvant> http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/
[15:10] <tobiassjosten> I just started my computer after having it suspended and now it's all black. When I hover certain areas I can see the pointer changing in what I think is the login and I believe I am able to log in. But everything's just black. Does anyone know how I could fix this?
[15:10] <jiohdi> Sajjad_Kanani, wubi is likely the problem... if you alter things after wubi set up, then the pointers to boot get messed up... alter meaning just a simple ubuntu update
[15:10] <kav> i think he is upset regarding ubuntu
[15:10] <jiohdi> Sajjad_Kanani, best is to install ubuntu without wubi from a disk
[15:10] <jiohdi> or a flash drive
[15:11] <TheLordOfTime> tobiassjosten:  power down and restart, and don't use suspend?
[15:11] <tobiassjosten> Doing ctrl+alt+f1 let me run irssi and chat in here at least, so something's working at least. Just not X.
[15:11] <arvant> Quickly will get you up and running with a Python GTK app right away.
[15:11] <Priyantha> wb da	
[15:11] <tobiassjosten> TheLordOfTime: That's it? Surely there must be a way to get this working? I mean it does, most of the time.
[15:11] <Priyantha> wb DarkSim
[15:11] <Priyantha> let's go further :)
[15:11] <jiohdi> Sajjad_Kanani, if you install ubuntu on its own, grub should find the win7 and set up a boot option for it
[15:12] <TheLordOfTime> tobiassjosten:  well, apart from killing 'lightdm' (12.04) or 'gdm' (pre-12.04), and then starting that back up, i'm not sure there is anything else you can do.
[15:12] <kav> Priyantha : where is DarkSim
[15:12] <TheLordOfTime> tobiassjosten:  you could try `sudo killall lightdm` (12.04)
[15:12] <Sajjad_Kanani> So if I install Ubuntu on my 7 disk now, it won't delete my files, or format the drive?
[15:12] <tobiassjosten> Ah, so *that's* what it changed name to. Tried restarting gdm but there wasn't any such service anymore.
[15:13] <tobiassjosten> TheLordOfTime: Thanks, I'll try that.
[15:13] <TheLordOfTime> tobiassjosten:  you may need to manually restart lightdm too, though
[15:13] <TheLordOfTime> tobiassjosten:  i had to kill lightdm yesterday, and it didnt come back up until i manually started it
[15:13] <TheLordOfTime> (just a little tidbit, might not be the case in your setup)
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> Sajjad_Kanani  you install ubuntu on a free space (partition), so it won't affect win7
[15:14] <arvant> i need ubutnu developer chanel
[15:14] <tobiassjosten> TheLordOfTime: Yup, that solved the problem. Killed everything I had open but still. Worked. :)
[15:14] <Sajjad_Kanani> How can I partition the drive, without formatting it, or losing all my data?
[15:14] <Sajjad_Kanani> Which programme?
[15:14] <TheLordOfTime> tobiassjosten:  FYI, save items and work before going into standby
[15:14] <tobiassjosten> Ohh! Except my tmux session. Nice.
[15:14] <TheLordOfTime> tobiassjosten:  standby sometimes breaks things.
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> Sajjad_Kanani  launch a live cd or pendrive and use gparted to see if you have free space and/or partition
[15:15] <anadon> Can someone advise me on how to instruct a non-linux user  to allow a ssh connection so I can fix their machine?
[15:15] <tobiassjosten> TheLordOfTime: Yeah. Well, thanks for helping me find the renamed gdm service.
[15:15] <kristenB> escott: are you still there?
[15:15] <escott> kristenB, yes
[15:15] <ikonia> anadon: if you are not capable of talking someone through that, you should not be trying to fix their computer
[15:15] <TheLordOfTime> tobiassjosten:  its not renamed, its a different desktop manager :P
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> anadon  s/he must have openssh-server installed
[15:16] <kristenB> escott: so is there no solution to not give A's key to C ?
[15:16] <TheLordOfTime> anadon:  i agree with ikonia, if you're not able to instruct them, you shouldnt be trying to fix their system
[15:16] <anadon> openssh is installed
[15:16] <escott> kristenB, thats out of my depth.
[15:16] <anadon> and its because they aren't farmilliar with the environment.  I could do it if I were there, but I'm 400+ miles away
[15:16] <TheLordOfTime> kristenB:  what're you trying to do?
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> anadon  on your friend's pc: client or server?
[15:16]  * TheLordOfTime doesnt have backlogs
[15:17] <anadon> MonkeyDust: laptop, standard 12.04 install CD with server software added.
[15:17] <escott> kristenB, http://lists.mindrot.org/pipermail/openssh-bugs/2011-May/010287.html might be relevant, but i would just put A's key on C
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> anadon  if you can't ssh to it, then it must be a firewall problem, i guess (ufw)
[15:19] <kristenB> TheLordOfTime: I've set up a ssh connection from A to C through B in one step, using the config ssh file and the option ProxyCommand. It works as intended, but asks me the password of C, even though it doesn't when I connect from B to C. I would want to connect to C, in as little command writing as possible, but not changing the usual method of authentication, which is that B connects to C with key pairs.
[15:19] <escott> anadon, most residential customers are behind NATs these days
[15:19] <kristenB> TheLordOfTime: If that's not clear please ask for further details.
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> anadon  what escott says, the router may block incoming connections
[15:21] <TheLordOfTime> kristenB:  i'm going to have to agree with escott on this, try putting A's key on C and see what happens.  that bug he mentioned also may be relevant.
[15:22] <kristenB> TheLordOfTime: well I can try it for test purposes, if you want. But that's not the end result I'm looking for, I want to connect to C with B's credentials. If that's not possible, then I'll forget about ProxyCommand and do it in two steps.
[15:22] <jdjb> I am using Ubuntu 12.04. I have tried to install a package from a ppa that is failing and now every apt command I try attempts to install the package yet again.
[15:23] <jdjb> Actually, it fails at the "Setting up [package]" stage. Removing the package with apt-get remove doesn't work as it still tries to "setup" the package first.
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> jdjb  a ppa is an "external" and unofficial software source, it is not supported here, you use ppa's at your own risk
[15:24] <jdjb> I'm not asking how to install software from a ppa. I'm asking in general how do you get aptitude to remove a package that is sitting in limbo state between "installed" and "setting up"
[15:24] <TheLordOfTime> jdjb:  contact the maintainer of that ppa for assistance with their ppa's packages.
[15:25] <escott> kristenB, you could try specifying an IdentifyFile directive in the config on B, but i doubt its even being read
[15:25] <kristenB> escott: TheLordOfTime: ok I tried adding A's public key to C, and it indeed works. But I would rather not do that.
[15:25] <escott> kristenB, you could also just steal the id_rsa from B and put it on A, but thats bad practive
[15:25] <tempnick> hello can someone point me in the right direction for dealing with usb-serial and their configuring?
[15:26] <escott> kristenB, im not at all clear why you dont want to do that?
[15:26] <kristenB> escott: B is work. It's not compromised, but it's work. C is a database of work. I would rather connect to C using my work credential rather than my home's
[15:26] <tempnick> usb-serial converters* sry
[15:26] <escott> kristenB, in other words you are breaking policy and you want to minimize evidence of it
[15:26] <TheLordOfTime> lol
[15:27] <TheLordOfTime> what escott said
[15:27] <kristenB> escott: I don't think so. On the contrary, I'm making clear that I'm B when I connect to C. In order words, I'm giving my work ID rather than my home ID, since only my work ID makes sense when I'm at work
[15:27] <kristenB> in other* words
[15:29] <kristenB> in any case that's what happens when I connect in two steps so I don't see why it would be different when I connect in just one step.
[15:29] <escott> kristenB, that seems silly. who cares whether the security agent at the door recognizes me as joe or as Mr Black, so long as he gives me authorization consistent with "Senior VP Joe Black"
[15:29] <Newb> Dos anyone know how view the php file on mozzila
[15:29] <escott> Newb, ???
[15:29] <Newb> Dos anyone know how view the php file on mozzila
[15:29] <Newb> Dos anyone know how view the php file on mozzila
[15:29] <Newb> woopd
[15:30] <Newb> I have made a index.php, I want to view it on firefox
[15:30] <kristenB> escott: how do you mean?
[15:30] <SomeDamnBody> does anybody use allura to host git repos?
[15:30] <kristenB> escott: are you saying that my ID is universal and hence I should just use A's ID anyway ?
[15:32] <escott> kristenB, authorized_keys is just a list of valid credentials to accept before granting access to the account. it says recognize "David Somerset", "Mr. Fisher", "Sir Hilary Bray", etc as "James Bond 007" and grant such a person access to all files held in the jbond007 account
[15:32] <escott> Newb, do you want to view the interpreted results? or the php contents?
[15:33] <Dr_O> kristenB: you are using a netcat proxy on B to reach C from A right. and setting C's username in the .ssh/config on A
[15:33] <Newb> interpretted results
[15:33] <escott> Newb, have you installed and configured apache?
[15:33] <kristenB> Dr_O: I could have used that, but I didn't. I just used the option ProxyCommand in the ssh config file
[15:33] <Dr_O> So create a new key pair on A and register it in the .ssh/authorised_keys on C
[15:34] <Newb> escott, apache2
[15:34] <tempnick> hello can someone point me in the right direction for dealing with usb-serial converters and their configuration? I can see Ubuntu picks it up as a prolific pl2303 device, but its ttyUSB0 and my software wants it on  ttyS# any help is appreciated. I tried to symlink it to /dev/ttyS32 (first available number) but it doesnt work.
[15:34] <Dr_O> But WHAT does Proxy command run?
[15:34] <kristenB> Dr_O: well I don't know, maybe netcat indeed
[15:34] <Newb> escott,  Everytime I try and open it in the webrowser, it redirects me to bluefish?
[15:35] <Dr_O> Well your proxycommand line in A's .ssh/config MUST have the command that is run!
[15:35] <escott> Dr_O, she is using the new versions built in support, but for reasons I can't fathom wants to use the id_rsa on the intermediary to login to the remote
[15:35] <wylde> Newb: you have to access it through the webserver eg http://localhost/myphpfile.php
[15:35] <kristenB> Dr_O: oh I'm sorry I didn't understand your question. The command is 'ssh B -W %h:%p'
[15:36] <Dr_O> Sorry I'm confusing you I note escott's comment
[15:37] <Newb> wylde, tI dont have a server just my computer with ubuntu desktop
[15:37] <escott> kristenB, maybe you should turn the agent on. maybe on is what you want not off
[15:38] <kav> !dmm
[15:38] <kristenB> escott: well I think the question is, why connecting with ProxyCommand would give a different result than connecting in two steps ? Isn't that the purpose of ProxyCommand, to make it behave exactly the same as if two authentications were made ?
[15:38] <kristenB> escott: let me try that
[15:38] <kav> what is Device Mapper Multipathing  ?
[15:39] <Dr_O> NO! the proxy command is exactly to make sure that B cannot read any of the communication between A and C
[15:39] <thaurwylth> OK. Thunderbird question. I have 12.04 and Thunderbird. I have an old disk which has, I think, 10.04 and Thunderbird from that era. I would like to bring over old accounts, folders, address book and filters.
[15:39] <escott> Dr_O, if you are familiar with it perhaps you know. is it possible when using a ProxyCommand to utilize the proxies identify to authenticate to the remote host?
[15:40] <Dr_O> No I don't think it is
[15:40] <Lymphocyte> are pre release updates safe to install?
[15:40] <kristenB> oh now I understand, makes sense then
[15:41] <kristenB> I mean so far it just didn't make sense, but if the purpose of ProxyCommand is to prevent B from intercepting the content between A and C, then if it is in two steps, it's not the same.
[15:41] <Dr_O> The proxy command is a command to let port 22 on C be available to A... then you run a NEW ssh excryption etc over that pipe
[15:41] <escott> Dr_O, in what way is the intermediary prevented from accessing the channel. it runs under my accounts uid on the intermediary, so I should be able to access the memory maps. is the DH key exchange done between the two remotes in proxy mode or something?
[15:42] <wylde> Newb: PHP is server side scripting. If you want to see the output in your browser you need a webserver with PHP installed to view  it.
[15:42] <Dr_O> All you can access is the encrypted packets betwwn A and C
[15:42] <Dr_O> when using proxy command
[15:42] <kristenB> escott: I tried setting ForwardAgent to yes, the result is the same
[15:43] <Newb> wylde, can I run the server in a virtual machine?
[15:43] <Dr_O> Why can you not either (1) take a copy of public key from B to A
[15:44] <Dr_O> or make new key on A and put public bit on C
[15:44] <wylde> Newb: yes, or you can just install a lamp on your machine. It really doesn't use much in the way of resources.
[15:44] <kristenB> Dr_O: well I could do that, but that would be the private key, wouldn't it? And I don't think it's good practice to give the private key of B to A.
[15:45] <Dr_O> Well then option (2) create new key pair on A and put public on C
[15:45] <kristenB> kristenB: if I create a new keypair, I need to specify the identity with -i, right ?
[15:45] <escott> kristenB, instead of using the ProxyCommand you could just set the command="ssh C" in B's auth_key
[15:45] <kristenB> Dr_O: if I create a new keypair, I need to specify the identity with -i, right ?
[15:46] <Dr_O> Now that is clever escott...
[15:46] <Dr_O> Yes prob do need to use -i
[15:46] <kristenB> escott: and then from A, ssh B -C ssh C ?
[15:46] <wylde> !lamp > Newb
[15:47] <Newb> wylde, how do i view private messages
[15:48] <wylde> !lamp | Newb
[15:48] <escott> kristenB, so this will get a little complicated. suppose you need to use B, but you want a nested direct connection to C as well. then you create two identities on A. id_rsa and id_rsa_C. you put both in B's auth key, but for the id_rsa_C line you set command="ssh C". then in A's config file you have Host C, HostName B IdentifyFile id_rsa_C
[15:48] <wylde> Newb: that depends on what irc client you're using.
[15:49] <Newb> wylde, tks, How do i call the server if its virtual, Or do I call the php script from within the virtual server
[15:49] <escott> kristenB, then when you ssh C it looks at your config and sees that C is really B, and presents id_rsa_C. B sees that id_rsa_C is in the AuthKey but with a restricted command so it opens the channel and runs on your behalf ssh C which uses the id_rsa on B to connect to C
[15:49] <kristenB> escott: I see. Alternatively, I think there's an option (-C) in ssh to execute a command rather than give a shell. So couldn't I do ssh B -C ssh C ?
[15:50] <escott> kristenB, when you ssh B it presents id_rsa to B, which opens a normal ssh session on B
[15:50] <escott> kristenB, yes that probably easier. one key, but Host C, HostName B Command ssh C
[15:50] <wylde> Newb: if you're going to run a VM as the webserver then you configure the networking so you have access to the VM's IP address, then you would access it like  http://vm.ip.address/myphpfile.php
[15:50] <total_newbie> hello
[15:51] <escott> kristenB, the problem is that this will break scp
[15:51] <wylde> Newb: but if you just install the lamp to your desktop machine you would put your files into /var/www then access them by http://localhost/myphpfile.php
[15:52] <kristenB> escott: I tried it and the error message returned is 'Pseudo-terminal will not be allocated because stdin is not a terminal.'
[15:52] <SkippersBoss> !ask | total_newbie
[15:52] <KPG_> How can one properly add Unity integration in the Unity launcher as explained in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqGfsgz1Sl4&list=UUWUDCz-Q0m4qK7lkK4CevQA&index=10&feature=plcp, with an application that was produced using Quickly? How do you properly get a reference to the main application window, like in the video example?
[15:52] <total_newbie> I am totally new to Linux. I have a Lenovo SL510. Does the latest Ubuntu 64 bit release support Mobile Intel GMA 4500MHD?
[15:53] <Dr_O> kristenB: add  "-t" switch
[15:53] <kristenB> Dr_O: come again ?
[15:54] <Dr_O>  -t      Force pseudo-tty allocation.
[15:54] <SkippersBoss> total_newbie, how much memory have you got in there
[15:54] <escott> kristenB, the more i think about it the worse an idea it seems. everything is going to be broken scp, ssh -C on A nothing will work write because you are overriding the command options on your way to C and dropping everything else
[15:54] <Dr_O> from ssh man page
[15:54] <total_newbie> SkipperBoss 6 GB
[15:54] <HelloWorld321> in "sort --key=1,32", is that one key or two?
[15:55] <Newb> wlyde, tkks
[15:55] <kristenB> escott: Dr_O: ok nevermind I understand the reasons why it's set that way now. I think I'll just create a new pair on A and give it to C.
[15:55] <SkippersBoss> i cannot see a problem. Are you going to dual boot or ubuntu only
[15:56] <kristenB> ok so now let's go to the next problem :). I want to rsync from C to A. How could I do that ?
[15:56] <total_newbie> SkippersBoss Probably Ubuntu only
[15:56] <Dr_O> can C ssh to A?
[15:56] <escott> kristenB, just tell rsync to use ssh protocol and it should follow your ssh setup
[15:56] <kav> hello ! all of you .   can any one tell me the command to know all port number and socket number (whether they are open or not )
[15:57] <total_newbie> SkippersBoss Is hardware acceleration possible with Ubuntu drivers and Mobile Intel GMA 4500MHD ?
[15:57] <kristenB> escott: so what would be the syntax exactly
[15:57] <Newb> ! x1@x1:~$ sudo apt-get install tasksel
[15:57] <Newb> [sudo] password for x1:
[15:57] <Newb> Reading package lists... Done
[15:57] <Newb> Building dependency tree
[15:57] <Newb> Reading state information... Done
[15:57] <Newb> tasksel is already the newest version.
[15:57] <FloodBot1> Newb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:57] <Dr_O> kav: netstat is the command - "netstat -atp" for tcp ports - I think "netstat -aup" for UDP ports... but check the man page
[15:58] <SkippersBoss> hmm i am not te expert on the graphics drivers
[15:58] <SkippersBoss> but most cards will be supported
[15:58] <escott> kristenB, Dr_O is correct if you want to rsync C->A your connections need to be reversed. but from A->C its should just be rsync folder ssh://C:path
[15:59] <total_newbie> SkippersBoss I need a qualified answer on this ;-) Are there any graphics guys available here?
[15:59] <kav> Dr_O : what about port number where software installs
[15:59] <kristenB> escott: well I'm at A, but I want to copy some files of C. Is that not possible ?
[15:59] <escott> total_newbie, check the mesa project
[16:00] <Dr_O> kav: /etc/services is the list of approved numbers
[16:00] <total_newbie> escott, what is this?
[16:00] <escott> kristenB, yes but its A->C. so its rsync ssh://C:path localpath
[16:00] <SkippersBoss> total_newbie, there you go. :-)
[16:00] <Dr_O> kav: rpcinfo -p (for port mapper services)
[16:00] <syrinx_priest> Hi all.  Anyone happen to know where the conf file for "atftp" resides in 12.04?  From what I gather from Google, it used to be in /etc/default/
[16:00] <total_newbie> SkipperBoss, thanks but what is mesa project?
[16:00] <syrinx_priest> but it's not there now,
[16:01] <escott> total_newbie, http://www.mesa3d.org/
[16:02] <total_newbie> escott, do I need that library? Is this a driver?
[16:02] <escott> total_newbie, thats the driver
[16:02] <kristenB> escott: wow that's cool it works lol
[16:02] <total_newbie> escott, OK do I need to manually install it after installing Ubuntu?
[16:03] <XiRoN> Hi, I have a simple question that I still didn't manage to get from google. I'm using ubuntu and want to check if I have a swap partition if not i would like to create one, but how?
[16:03] <escott> total_newbie, no
[16:03] <kristenB> okay, next question :).
[16:03] <Dr_O> XiRoN: /sbin/swapon -s
[16:03] <kristenB> can I set it so that a ssh connection to A (or B or C, really, doesn't matter now) is somehow notified to the current user ?
[16:03] <Dr_O> that will list any active swap
[16:04] <total_newbie> escott, hmm... does this mean that this driver is within the latest Ubuntu and it supports Mobile Intel GMA 4500MHD?
[16:04] <kristenB> that is to say, I would like to allow connections to my computer, but get graphically notified by ubuntu that such a connection is taking place
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> total_newbie  better start from the beginning, what have you done and tried before you came here, what do you want to do
[16:05] <escott> kristenB, no idea
[16:05] <ghostchick> total_newbie,  in linux most drivers are in the kernel or system apart from some proprietary  ones , check your graphic card on google to see if it is supported , or test it with a livecd
[16:06] <SkippersBoss> MonkeyDust, total_newbie want confirmation that the IntelGMA 4500 is fully supported before he buys the laptop
[16:06] <kav> Dr_O : i have a small question regarding ssh , can i ask you ?
[16:06] <XiRoN> If the ubuntu system needs ram does it take priority over taking swap space or dedicated RAM?
[16:07] <escott> XiRoN, if the ram is dedicated (ie to the video card) then its untouchable
[16:07] <total_newbie> SkippersBoss, MonkeyDust, I already have that laptop, but with Win 7 64 bit. I just want to change to Ubuntu 64 bit and need confirmation if it supports Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500MHD together with hardware acceleration
[16:07] <Dr_O> kristenB: immidiate ideas are: (1) read the sshd_config man page about ForceCommand and ~/.ssh/rc (2) tail you r log files
[16:07] <kav> Dr_O : ssh -D 1080 kav@Lex      offers me Dynamic IP adresss or what
[16:07] <Dr_O> kav: go on
[16:07] <SkippersBoss> i stand corrected
[16:07] <Dr_O> -D switch creates a socks proxy
[16:08] <ghostchick> total_newbie,   as i said try with the live cd , you will see or google for it , there is not other fast way to know it
[16:08] <XiRoN> escott: Sorry what I meant was, If the ubuntu system needs ram does it take priority over taking swap space or physical RAM?
[16:08] <kav> Dr_O : how can i go for Dynamic IP addressing
[16:08] <ghostchick> total_newbie,  but generally there is a good support
[16:08] <SkippersBoss> hmm a life cd could do the trick maybe ??
[16:09] <Dr_O> so say I can brows a web site on machine B but on machine A I cannot. so while on A I "ssh -D 1080 B" and set up my web browser on A to use the socks proxy at localhost:1080
[16:09] <total_newbie> ghostchick, thanks the only problem is that i already googled it, but i didn't understand a word. This is why i wanted to ask the experts here on the chat :-)
[16:09] <kav> Dr_O : so that i can be unknown
[16:09] <Dr_O> kav you can almost always be known
[16:09] <jimmy__> needing some help with installing 12.04...
[16:10] <kav> Dr_O  : O ! how can be i unknown
[16:10] <kristenB> Dr_O: and why do I provide as the forced command ? is there no such software available ? Having it say in the notification bar, how many people connected, and where from ?
[16:10] <Dr_O> kav: begs the question why do you want to be unknown!
[16:10] <escott> XiRoN, still not sure what the question means. if there is memory pressure stuff in the LRU will be written out to swap
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> total_newbie  if that's very new hardware, you may be pioneering and not much support will be available, because it is too new
[16:10] <escott> kristenB, alert
[16:11] <total_newbie> MonkeyDust now, this Intel device is from 2008
[16:11] <jimmy__> my laptop never liked previous versions, finally got 12.04 to install and i have working wifi finally! but now im getting a black screen....
[16:11] <kav> Dr_O  :   i want to tunnel using ssh with unknown identity
[16:11] <kristenB> escott: wow that's funny lol.
[16:11] <kristenB> escott: didn't know about that one
[16:11] <escott> kristenB, going to have a lot of problems with alert though. because that ssh user won't have your environment variables to connect to your existent X session
[16:11] <SkippersBoss> total_newbie, like ghostchick has said. run the livecd
[16:11] <kav> Dr_O  : in china , we have to be unknown
[16:11] <jimmy__> im running the live cd
[16:12] <total_newbie> MonkeyDust, ghostchick http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_GMA_4500MHD What is libva? Is the information there up to date?
[16:13] <Dr_O> Ah... well you kav: the tor project might be waht you want but I don't know about that sorry
[16:13] <kav> Dr_O :tor really sucks
[16:14] <Dr_O> I'll take your word for it
[16:14] <kav> Dr_O : sometime it fails and even slow
[16:14] <Dr_O> YOu can always try to use a chain of open web proxies
[16:14] <kav> hmm....
[16:15] <kav> hey ! can you trace me using ubuntu when i'm chatting with you
[16:15] <kav> Dr_O: can you do that ?
[16:16] <Dr_O> kav: you ask the wrong man!
[16:16] <vibhav> kav: Anybody can know your Ip adrees
[16:16] <kav> how vibhav ?  Can you tell me ?
[16:16] <kristenB> escott: so what other option do I have to get notified ?
[16:16]  * Dr_O waves goodbye
[16:16] <kristenB> escott: that alert thing seemed interesting.
[16:16] <kav> Bye Dr_O , thanks for helping me
[16:16] <vibhav> kav: typed /whois kav
[16:16] <XiRoN> Is there a way to run a program which only uses swap memory and not physical?
[16:17] <vibhav> kav: If you want to be anonymous on IRC please request a cloak on #freenode
[16:17] <kav> O god ! are you kidding me
[16:18] <kav> that was wrong . Check the place , you can't even tell me from where i'm talking
[16:18] <kav> Go ahead ! vibhav
[16:18] <vibhav> !offtopic | kav
[16:19] <kav> hey ! vibhav wanna join me there
[16:19] <escott> kristenB, im not sure
[16:19] <XiRoN> Is there a way to run a program which only uses swap memory and not physical?
[16:19] <escott> XiRoN, no that would be impossible
[16:20] <XiRoN> escott: Would, or wouldn't?
[16:20] <escott> XiRoN, totally impossible
[16:26] <Lymphocyte> is it safe to have ubuntu and kubuntu installed at the same time?
[16:26] <kristenB> escott: ok let's forget about that alert question for now then and jump to another question :)
[16:26] <kristenB> escott:  Using my previous network architecture, I have a reverse ssh connection from B to A. How could I automatically reconnect in case of power or networking failure ? (using cron, I guess, but how ? If I just ask cron to ssh every 5 minutes, he'll create a new one instead of checking whether it already exists, right?)
[16:26] <ghostchick> Lymphocyte,  you mean on different partions or kde and gnome on the same system?
[16:27] <escott> kristenB, not with command master
[16:27] <Lymphocyte> same partition
[16:27] <kristenB> escott: I don't have it setup
[16:27] <escott> kristenB, i thought you had configured command master auto?
[16:27] <kristenB> escott: no in the end I didn't use it
[16:28] <kristenB> escott: maybe I should
[16:28] <escott> kristenB, thats why i would recommend it
[16:28] <kristenB> escott: so what's the method again ?
[16:29] <three18ti> how do I rotate one of my displays?  I just rebooted and one of my monitors came back rotated 90deg.
[16:29] <three18ti> my xorg.conf file appears unchanged.
[16:29] <three18ti> I'm running is failsafe mode, I have two nvidia cards.
[16:30] <escott> kristenB,   ControlMaster auto  ControlPath /tmp/ssh_%r@%h:%p ControlPersist 4h
[16:30] <three18ti> I thought I could rotate the display in the NVIDIA X Server Settings menu, but that is not the case.
[16:30] <vibhav> what is the /srv directory for?
[16:31] <three18ti> I did let the setting upgrade run before I rebooted.
[16:31] <kristenB> escott: oh yeah we're back to the /tmp issue lol, I remember why I didn't use it now :)
[16:31] <kav> hey ! vibhav .Your name seems to be of indian .Are you ?
[16:31] <kristenB> escott: so where is that to be added (file, folder and computer) ?
[16:32] <vibhav> kav: Could We discuss this in #ubuntu-offtopic? :)
[16:32] <escott> kristenB, the .ssh/config on B
[16:32] <kav> Ok !
[16:32] <Eagleman7> Hello, i am having this issue when rebooting:  http://imageshack.us/f/819/img20120701173438.jpg/
[16:32] <Eagleman7> Something is delaying my startup
[16:33] <TheLordOfTime> Eagleman7:  i think if you read it'd explain it
[16:33] <kristenB> escott: after Host C ... and on the same level ?
[16:33] <TheLordOfTime> something's hanging up your networking setup
[16:33] <uzumati> Eagleman7: What disto you trayin to boot ?
[16:33] <Eagleman7> ubuntu 12.04
[16:33] <Eagleman7> TheLordOfTime if i did understand it i wasnt here
[16:34] <DJones> righ
[16:34] <DJones> sorry, wrong window
[16:34] <three18ti> actually, it looks like I have the rotate option in my xorg.conf file     Option         "Rotate" "left"
[16:35] <steve973> do any of you mount your NFS shares on your mac (if you have a mac at home or at work, of course).  I am having problems mounting my exported filesystems on my mac (os x lion)
[16:35] <escott> kristenB, i enable it for all hosts, but you could enable it for specific hosts if you want
[16:36] <Eagleman7> TheLordOfTime you are saying that i have to remove my keyboard and pc screen?
[16:36] <Sath> hiiii
[16:36] <TheLordOfTime> Eagleman7:  no, i was saying that your networking is being delayed
[16:36] <Eagleman7> Yes but why
[16:36] <three18ti> what would cause my machine to stop reading the xorg.conf file?
[16:36] <kristenB> escott: so how would the syntax differ if it's for one or all?
[16:37] <TheLordOfTime> Eagleman7:  the error tells you that the networking system wasnt able to configure, so it took time to output the kernel-level issues, and then tried to reconfigure.  i'm not able to debug that any further right now, i've got to run
[16:37] <escott> kristenB, i just put it in a Host * declaration at the top
[16:37] <TheLordOfTime> Eagleman7:  my suggestion would be to make sure your network card still works.  Is this in a server setup, or a desktop, btw?
[16:37] <Eagleman7> server
[16:37] <Eagleman7> they still work
[16:37] <Eagleman7> able to reach both on their staticly assigned IP Address
[16:38] <Eagleman7> I also do have a VLAN setup: eth0.10
[16:38] <Eagleman7> which also works
[16:41] <kristenB> escott: and if I remember correctly you said it was possible to change the controlPersist to indefinite, what's the syntax again?
[16:41] <escott> kristenB, ControlPersist yes
[16:42] <kristenB> escott: does controlPersit overwrite the default config TCP keepalive option ?
[16:43] <escott> kristenB, there is a separate keepalive option
[16:43] <kristenB> escott: in order words, what does ControlPersist do, exactly ? Does it close the connection if there's no input for 4 hours?
[16:43] <kristenB> escott: in other* words.
[16:44] <amazing> unknown keyword in configuration file:gfxboot
[16:44] <amazing> vesamenu.c32:not a COm32 image
[16:45] <escott> kristenB, i think its just a timeout before it cleans up that temp file
[16:45] <amazing> i want to install new but this is a mistake, how can i sove this<?
[16:45] <kristenB> escott: oh okay then I can just leave it to 4hours, it won't break the connection ?
[16:46] <escott> kristenB, after 4 hours it would break the connection, because the persistence file would be invalidated
[16:46] <amazing> i try to install from usb stick :)
[16:46] <escott> kristenB, the idea is that you start a connection and thats the master. when you close that connection if there are no other connections it would close the master connection and clean up the file
[16:46] <val> how can i know what is the architecture of my system ?
[16:46] <val> x86 x64 ?
[16:46] <val> in the command shell ?
[16:47] <ikonia> uname -i
[16:47] <escott> kristenB, but if you were doing multiple commands one after another you might want to persist the connection for some period after the command terminate
[16:47] <kristenB> escott: oh I see
[16:47] <val> thanks
[16:47] <kristenB> escott: but then
[16:47] <Nani009> hey all ubuntuians
[16:47] <patr|ck> for Ubuntu 10.04 setup - i created /home/spool in a seperate partition. when it later asks if i want to encrypt my /home will it encrypt /var/spool aswell?
[16:48] <three18ti> ok, uninstalling an reinstalling the nvidia drivers... wish me luck.
[16:48] <kristenB> escott: seeing as the reverse ssh is still an active connection, it would not drop it, would it?
[16:48] <escott> kristenB, it shouldnt drop an open connection
[16:48] <kristenB> escott: okay I get what's the idea behind controlmaster now, thank you
[16:48] <escott> but any subsequent connections from B->A would be new connections because the control file would not be present
[16:49] <fluffyguy> Anyone here tried to play Wolfenstein ET on 12.04?
[16:49] <Eagleman7> Hello, i am having this issue when rebooting:  http://imageshack.us/f/819/img20120701173438.jpg/
[16:50] <kristenB> escott: so now how to check every so often whether the ssh reverse is still active, and activate it if not (due to power failure for example)
[16:50] <escott> kristenB, i would just run ssh A every few minutes
[16:51] <escott> kristenB, if the control file is present then its basically a noop
[16:51] <kristenB> and with controlMaster, it doesn't create a new connection ?
[16:51] <kristenB> escott: I mean, a new connection from within the tunnel that controlMaster created ?
[16:52] <escott> kristenB, it reuses the existing connection
[16:52] <kristenB> escott: so that's some sort of multiplexing ?
[16:52] <escott> kristenB, yes
[16:52] <kristenB> escott: how is it able to differenciate between the different connections ?
[16:53] <kristenB> escott: I mean, if I have two shells on X1 and X2 to Y, how is it that the output of a command sent from X1 doesn't appear in X2 ?
[16:53] <escott> kristenB, it just does.
[16:53] <kristenB> escott: I mean, if I have two shells X1 and X2 on X to Y, how is it that the output of a command sent from X1 doesn't appear in X2 ?
[16:54] <kristenB> escott: that's black magic lol
[16:55] <kristenB> escott: so what would be the command to cron ?
[16:56] <escott> kristenB, ssh A
[16:56] <fluffyguy> can I use this guide for my Ati x1050 (RV350 chip) on Lubuntu 12.04?
[16:56] <fluffyguy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:00] <kristenB> escott: I'm not that familiar with cron in ubuntu. Do I have to edit /etc/crontab ?
[17:01] <tking> using ubuntu freshly install i saw an icon by the status bar saying  i should install some properietry driver http://postimage.org/image/x7gqk596t/90dc4abb/
[17:01] <escott> kristenB, that would be roots you want crontab -e
[17:01] <kristenB> it's a command or a file to edit?
[17:02] <L3top> fluffyguy: it is a bit dated with regards to package names/purging fglrx etc... and xorg.conf is no longer necessary except in odd circumstances... it has been depreciated... however yes... most of that looks fine... esp if you NEED an xorg.conf
[17:03] <Eagleman7> Hello, i am having this issue when rebooting:  http://imageshack.us/f/819/img20120701173438.jpg/
[17:04] <mwozniak00> hi, somebody else have problem with dependencies of nvidia close driver on ubuntu 12.10 alpha2 ?
[17:05] <fluffyguy> L3top Im try to get Wolfenstein ET working on Lubuntu ...only reason Im even messing with drivers
[17:05] <DJones> mwozniak00: Probably better asking in #ubuntu+1 for 12.10 queries
[17:05] <fluffyguy> trying*
[17:05] <fluffyguy> Geez I need coffee
[17:05] <mwozniak00> DJones: ok. thx
[17:06] <escott> kristenB, command
[17:06] <kristenB> escott: ok done. I made it    */1 * * * *    Does that seem ok?
[17:06] <L3top> fluffyguy: just be aware, fglrx will not work on that card... and if you have installed fglrx trying, you need to get rid of a lot of stuff.
[17:06] <escott> kristenB, probably too often but sure
[17:07] <tempnick> hello if ive found a patch for my kernel regaurding my specific problem, should I recompile my own kernel or might there be one out there already to dl?
[17:07] <kristenB> escott: so what could I say instead ? /10 ?
[17:07] <fluffyguy> L3top so it seems Im forced to play it on my W7 partition after all. damn
[17:07] <L3top> Not at all fluffyguy.
[17:07] <escott> kristenB, sure. its a matter of how impatient you are
[17:07] <igor__> hello
[17:08] <L3top> the radeon driver should be able to play it, imperfectly.
[17:08] <kristenB> escott: /10 means once every ten minutes, right ?
[17:08] <escott> kristenB, yes
[17:09] <kristenB> escott: ok edits done. Why is it that now the contents of /etc/crontab and crontab -e differ ?
[17:09] <escott> kristenB, the first is roots
[17:09] <igor__> i want to install windows 7 to play a game.  i already have a dual boot system, linux and xp.  some one told me that i will mess up the grub loader if I try and install a 3rd OS like 7?
[17:09] <kristenB> escott: well the user is a sudoer.
[17:09] <kristenB> escott: so what's the difference ?
[17:10] <escott> kristenB, just because a user can sudo doesn't mean that everything they do is done as root
[17:10] <kristenB> escott: right
[17:10] <kristenB> escott: and where is that file located ?
[17:10] <escott> kristenB, i think it ends up in /var
[17:11] <Pici> kristenB: '/etc/crontab' is the system crontab. crontabs edited by using crontab -e end up in /var/spool/cron/
[17:11] <kristenB> Pici: ok thanks
[17:12] <litropy> Is anyone else having screen refresh/window refresh -like issues with google chrome?
[17:12] <kristenB> Pici: escott: but that's weird, /var is not specific to one peculiar user. Does that mean that my crons are visible by every user on the machine?
[17:12] <litropy> Like the image loads, but it's ... Hang on lemme tiny pic it
[17:12] <escott> kristenB, check the permissions on the user specific crontab
[17:12] <igor__> anyone here understand grub loaders
[17:13] <Pici> kristenB: no, /var/spool/cron/crontabs/ is only readable by root and the cron.
[17:13] <Pici> *the cron user
[17:14] <kristenB> Pici: I see
[17:14] <kristenB> that' s tricky.
[17:14] <litropy> http://tinypic.com/r/2367go/6
[17:15] <kristenB> I think I'm out of questions regarding ssh :(
[17:15] <litropy> See, it's not like the image didn't load. Instead, it's only partially displayed.
[17:15] <litropy> The browser isn't refreshing well.
[17:16] <litropy> When I select text sometimes, it's not highlighted ... because, again, the window isn't refreshing well.
[17:16] <litropy> Firefox has no problems.
[17:17] <litropy> If I, for instance, resize the image (RES allows drag-resize, for you non-redditors), it forces a window refresh and it's then okay.
[17:18] <kristenB> escott: can you please reexplain why it's perhaps not advised to have the controlmaster file in /etc ?
[17:18] <phoenix_firebrd> How to increase the video thumbnail icon in nautilus size to 256
[17:19] <kristenB> escott: is it just because its filename includes the hostname and ip ?
[17:19] <escott> kristenB, the only concern i can think of is that you are exposing the hostname and username to others. beyond that i dont see a risk
[17:19] <D-F3NS> im searching for a program which allows me to write with my pen on my lenovo tablet x201t. and recommendations?
[17:19] <kristenB> escott: but in the filename or in the file itself?
[17:19] <escott> kristenB, but a lot of that is in ps aux anyways
[17:19] <D-F3NS> any
[17:19] <igor__> anyone?
[17:20] <bazhang> !grub2 | igor__
[17:20] <kristenB> escott: if the only problem is the filename, could I not change the filename to something less suggestive ?
[17:20] <WeThePeople> hi, does allocating (eg. 64mb of video) ram to a machine, split it between the vm and the os or can i allocate the whole 128mb to the vm.. and have both vm and my os use 128mb of video ram? does this make sense?
[17:20] <escott> kristenB, you certainly could
[17:20] <kristenB> escott: and that would solve the problem, would it not?
[17:21] <escott> kristenB, the only concern is that the file does give root the ability to access the channel
[17:21] <escott> kristenB, but root already had access to your keys
[17:21] <kristenB> escott: well it's okay since we've made it so that only one command could be issued out of this channel
[17:22] <igor__> i'm using mint 12 which i am told is basically ubuntu?
[17:22] <escott> kristenB, there could be other security concerns
[17:23] <BluesKaj> igor__, ask in #linuxmint
[17:23] <escott> kristenB, but those are the only ones i can think of
[17:23] <kristenB> escott: hmm
[17:23] <bazhang> !mintsupport | igor__
[17:23] <igor__> ok
[17:23] <kristenB>  escott: so instead of  ControlPath /tmp/ssh_%r@%h:%p     I can just say /tmp/ssh_randomString ?
[17:23] <aristidesfl> I'm receiving locale problems all the time on a fresh 12.04 LTS. how to fix this? shouldn't this be configured by default? http://hastebin.com/raw/fayogimolu
[17:24] <escott> kristenB, sure
[17:24] <escott> kristenB, but dont put it in Host * then
[17:24] <aristidesfl> sudo adduser user deluge
[17:24] <aristidesfl> opps
[17:24] <kristenB> escott: can I not generate a random string so that I can put it in Host* anyway ?
[17:25] <escott> kristenB, it would have to be the same string every time.
[17:25] <kristenB> escott: that is to say, generate a string every time it connects rather than once for all
[17:25] <aristidesfl> sudo nano /etc/init/deluge.conf
[17:25] <three18ti> ok, I'm about to lose it...  how do I remove the erroneous double bars at the top and bottom of my screen and how do I get rid of all the duplicate icons? http://i.imgur.com/RUgoF.jpg
[17:25] <aristidesfl> opps
[17:25] <igor__> well too bad for me linux mint channels are not very responsive
[17:26] <SirFunk> Hi there. I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 server on a dell poweredge. It gets past selecting the timezone, then detects hardware then goes to a purple screen with no writing.. any ideas?
[17:27] <three18ti> SirFunk, try rebooting and attempting your install again.  also you may attempt to burn your installtion media again.
[17:27] <L3top> !nomodeset | SirFunk
[17:27] <SirFunk> three18ti: i tried it twice already
[17:27] <phoenix_firebrd> SirFunk, is there any disk activity?
[17:27] <SirFunk> phoenix_firebrd: nope
[17:28] <SirFunk> L3top: ... does ubuntu sever modeset at all?
[17:28]  * L3top misread that sorry SirFunk... 
[17:28] <david452Rm> bonjour
[17:28] <root_295> metzee
[17:28] <phoenix_firebrd> SirFunk, are you able to open another tty?
[17:28] <kristenB> escott: I think I'm going to leave it in /etc
[17:29] <SirFunk> phoenix_firebrd: yup
[17:29] <igor__> is there a way to increase my linux partition size in dual boot system?
[17:29] <SirFunk> oh! there it goes
[17:29] <SirFunk> wth.. that took like 5 minutes of a blank screen before showing the hdds
[17:29] <bazhang> !gparted | igor__
[17:29] <phoenix_firebrd> SirFunk, so can you see the log?
[17:29] <igor__> without hurting either OS
[17:29] <kristenB> escott: I have another question. Could I set up ssh so that I can see the remote desktop in a way similar to what vnc does, with -X for example ? So far I've only been able to display one specific application, rather than the whole desktop.
[17:30] <david452Rm> ok my probleme is carmetal by ubuntu
[17:30] <SirFunk> phoenix_firebrd: it continued *shrug*
[17:30] <phoenix_firebrd> SirFunk, just as i thought, enjoy
[17:30] <three18ti> SirFunk, sometimes all you have to do is ask about it.
[17:31] <SirFunk> haha, yeah thanks
[17:31] <david452Rm> ok goodbye
[17:31] <SirFunk> 1U servers are LOUD
[17:31] <igor__> which is better to use?
[17:31] <SirFunk> and my boss keeps calling it a 'blade server' and it makes me want to punch him
[17:32] <L3top> SirFunk: out of curiosity what is the output of lspci | grep VGA
[17:32] <Nicholaspugh> Hello!!! Was wondering if anyone can point me towards where to get drivers for a Netgear N600 Wireless Adapter.
[17:32] <Surkow|laptop> hi guys
[17:32] <SirFunk> L3top: some integrated ati
[17:33] <Surkow|laptop> just used photorec to recover some textfiles. it generated millions of files.
[17:33] <Surkow|laptop> after deleting them my harddrive has 4GB space that is no longer usable
[17:33] <L3top> SirFunk: Some of these servers have an onboard KVM interop which makes things dicey. I ask to see if there are two. And there is no way to shut the KVM side off from bios.
[17:33] <Surkow|laptop> I understand why it happened, but is there is a way to reclaim the space?
[17:33] <escott> kristenB, you might look at NX
[17:34] <kristenB> escott: I did and I'm already using it. Is there no way to do without, just from ssh ?
[17:34] <escott> kristenB, you could start an Xnest server
[17:34] <kristenB> escott: what's that ?
[17:35] <kristenB> escott: and in any case, with nx, I'm not able to share a desktop, but rather to open a new connection.
[17:35] <escott> kristenB, its an x client that draws a root window so you can nest what you want inside
[17:36] <kristenB> escott: could I set nx to share a desktop (the same as the one the remote user is using) rather than an empty profile ?
[17:36] <escott> kristenB, nx is setup to do that better
[17:36] <kristenB> escott: or does Xnest do that ?
[17:36] <escott> kristenB, alternately look at vnc
[17:36] <kristenB> escott: well if it can do better it can do worse too right? :)
[17:37] <kristenB> escott: so nx doesn't allow that ?
[17:38] <escott> kristenB, the design of X is such that a client (window) cannot be moved easily from server (display) to server (display)
[17:38] <SnowRaptor> Hello, there! Where are good places to look for reasons of random shutdown in an Ubuntu 11.10 machine?
[17:38] <kristenB> escott: not moved, but copied
[17:38] <tempnick> thanks for all the help everyone
[17:38] <kristenB> escott: is that not possible either ?
[17:39] <escott> kristenB, to do so requires a virtual x server to act as an intermediary. xnest is one such virtual server, nx also provides a virtual
[17:39] <litropy> FYI: reinstalling google-chrome-stable fixed my issue.
[17:39] <escott> kristenB, things like vnc work by basically taking screenshots and then sending them across the pipe so if you have a real primary display vnc may make more sense
[17:39] <kristenB> escott: but does nx allow to connect to the existing x server used by the remote user, rather than start a new session ?
[17:40] <escott> kristenB, you might have to change your login when at the physical display, and login to the nx
[17:40] <kristenB> escott: come again?
[17:41] <kristenB> escott: if I want to connect to B remotely and have the same software launched as when I left, how could I do that with nx?
[17:41] <escott> kristenB, to use X and migrate you need to have a virtual display backing the desktop. so your X server needs to be running the nx client connecting to the NX virtual server. when you leave for the day you would then connect to the NX virtual from the remote location
[17:42] <kristenB> so how to do that from a practical point of view?
[17:42] <escott> kristenB, i've never used nx
[17:43] <kristenB> escott: have you used vnc?
[17:45] <escott> no
[17:45] <hellyeah> hey
[17:45] <kristenB> escott: you wouldn't know how to set it up?
[17:45] <pharmankur> hi all ..
[17:45] <hellyeah> i need to know good ide for html css php java script i am using ubuntu do you have any suggestion
[17:46] <pharmankur> I have a pretty strange problem with ubuntu 12.04 since last week ...
[17:46] <sacarlson> hellyeah: wordpress?
[17:46] <pharmankur> detals are on .. http://pastelink.me/dl/0e2259
[17:46] <pharmankur> There is a very strange problem i am facing in ubuntu 12.04 since last week.  I have cannot 'see' any data (incuding movie files) in a particular folder but I can watch those same movies from the same location through VLC player (via recently played history)!  Details:- Note - All my partitions (execept / & /home) are NTFS & I share with my Windows XP installation  I store all of my movies in media -> Pictures -> Movies. Since 1 w
[17:47] <pharmankur> details are on There is a very strange problem i am facing in ubuntu 12.04 since last week.  I have cannot 'see' any data (incuding movie files) in a particular folder but I can watch those same movies from the same location through VLC player (via recently played history)!  Details:- Note - All my partitions (execept / & /home) are NTFS & I share with my Windows XP installation  I store all of my movies in media -> Pictures -> Mo
[17:47] <pharmankur> detals are on -- pastelink.me/dl/0e2259
[17:47] <escott> !paste | pharmankur send us the output of "mount"
[17:47] <wp-developer> i have both windows 7 and ubuntu
[17:48] <wp-developer> can i run ubuntu from within windows 7
[17:48] <aristidesfl> I'm receiving locale problems all the time on a fresh 12.04 LTS. how to fix this?  http://hastebin.com/raw/fayogimolu
[17:49] <IdleOne> !wubi | wp-developer
[17:49] <IdleOne> wp-developer: or you could run it in virtual machine
[17:50] <wp-developer> i have allready installed ubuntu on partition
[17:50] <wp-developer> cant i use that from windows 7
[17:50] <IdleOne> no
[17:50] <wp-developer> ok
[17:51] <pharmankur> escott ... ankur@ankur-desktop:~$ mount /dev/sda5 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro) proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw) none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw) none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw) udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=
[17:51] <escott> wp-developer, you probably want virtualbox, and VBox can use raw partitions but its not advisable
[17:51] <escott> !paste | pharmankur
[17:51] <sacarlson> wp-developer: you can access the data from within ubuntu partition in windows with a third party software that can mount ext4 partitions in winodows
[17:53] <pharmankur> escott --- my mount output
[17:53] <pharmankur> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069840/
[17:53] <wp-developer> i installed ubunto on ext2 partition
[17:53] <BlueLaguna> One of the hard drives in my RAID 5 array seems to be clicking, but I don't know which one.  What's the best way to find out?  smartctl finds all drives "healthy"
[17:54] <wp-developer> how will it effect me
[17:54] <escott> pharmankur, it should all be available under /media. you would have to send a screenshot of where its not appearing
[17:54] <wp-developer> i installed ubunto on ext2 partition.how will it effect me?
[17:55] <pharmankur> my problem description ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069844/
[17:55] <kantlivelong> why was xnee removed from the repos?
[17:56] <savio> hello anyone
[17:56] <savio> why my gdm is not working
[17:56] <sacarlson> wp-developer: ext2 should work just fine
[17:56] <dr_willis> !ext3
[17:56] <escott> !work | savio
[17:57] <pharmankur> my image 1 movie folder space - http://imagebin.org/219093
[17:57] <savio> it sas .service file is not there
[17:58] <dr_willis> savio: what are you doing exactly
[17:58] <pharmankur> my image 2 movie folder seems empty --> http://imagebin.org/219094
[17:58] <savio> i install gdm
[17:58] <savio> gdmsetup not unlock login screen
[17:59] <SomeDamnBody> hey, when I try to run lubuntu-software-center I get
[17:59] <SomeDamnBody> no module name defer
[17:59] <Eagleman7> How do i flush the dns cache of BIND9?
[17:59] <SomeDamnBody> I found deferred in pip and python-defer in apt-get
[17:59] <SomeDamnBody> but it says that python-defer is already installed
[17:59] <savio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1066035/
[18:00] <escott> savio, what version of ubuntu is this?
[18:00] <savio> 10.04
[18:00] <escott> savio, what about running gksudo gdmsetup?
[18:00] <sacarlson> Eagleman7: might try restart bind9 but I'm not totally sure that will flush the cache
[18:00] <savio> same error
[18:01] <savio> i also try installing lightdm some time ago
[18:01] <pappijo> I'm trying to publish a post in the ubuntu app showdown reddit and it doesn't appear (I submitted it 4 days ago, then I tried to delete it and submit again with no result).
[18:01] <savio> but no hel[
[18:01] <escott> !ot | pappijo
[18:02] <pharmankur> escott .. did you get all of my threads ?
[18:02] <escott> pharmankur, what does "ls -l /media" say
[18:03] <User> Hello, I am having a tough time figuring out grub2 when trying to add a parameter to my kernel line
[18:04] <pharmankur> output  ..  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069858/
[18:04] <User> would anyone know of an easy to follow grub2 guide?
[18:04] <pharmankur> escott , your required output ,, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069858/.
[18:04] <escott> User, modify /etc/default/grub and run update-grub
[18:04] <savio> anyone
[18:05] <escott> pharmankur, how about ls -l /media/Pictures
[18:05] <wp-developer> he want to change something in grub config
[18:05] <wp-developer> want a grub guide >user
[18:05] <wp-developer> .grub > User
[18:05] <xerxes> slm
[18:06] <xerxes> ubuntu gönül dostu bir türke ihtiyaç vardır
[18:06] <xerxes> sses
[18:06] <wp-developer> !grub | User
[18:06] <User> heh, thanks wp-developer and escott
[18:06] <pharmankur> ls -l /media/Pictures output ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069863/
[18:06] <wp-developer> !grub2 | User
[18:06] <SomeDamnBody> hey is there any way to make sure that python is correctly installed
[18:06] <IdleOne> !turkey | xerxes
[18:06] <SomeDamnBody> ?
[18:06] <pharmankur> escott ... ls -l /media/Pictures output ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069863/
[18:06] <savio> is there no one to help me ?
[18:07] <wp-developer> yes savio?
[18:07] <savio> that's seems unfair
[18:07] <wp-developer> savio ask question please
[18:07] <escott> pharmankur, but if you open nautilus and type "Ctrl-L /media/Pictures" it shows as empty
[18:07] <savio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1066035/
[18:08] <wp-developer> tell savio whats it all about
[18:08] <User> escott: is GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX where image parameters go?
[18:08] <pharmankur> escott .. i did not get you ... where to type it ?
[18:08] <savio> i try unloacking login screen using gdmsetup
[18:08] <savio> it's all i got
[18:08] <escott> User, i usually put it in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[18:08] <wp-developer> savio i never tried it sorry
[18:09] <savio> i try posting on many irc
[18:09] <savio> no help
[18:09] <savio> wasted so many days
[18:09] <escott> pharmankur, in the location bar
[18:09] <User> escott: thanks again, rebooting
[18:09] <MissVera> Question. I installed and everything went fine. It installed then loaded just fine. But, after i restarted my computer, now it doesnt boot up the system? Its just a cursor...
[18:10] <pharmankur> ok ... but problem is not in /media/Pictures, its in Ctrl-L /media/Pictures/Movies  ; Movie folder shows empty
[18:10] <escott> pharmankur, ok what does "ls -l /media/Pictures/Movies" show
[18:10] <igor__> does boot repair work well?
[18:10] <Frederick> guys I have a problem, my system resized a partitom to install ubuntu and it seems to have unaligned the windoze partition hence now I cant seem to mount it
[18:11] <pharmankur> escott ... here it is ... ankur@ankur-desktop:~$ ls -l /media/Pictures/Movies ls: reading directory /media/Pictures/Movies: Input/output error total 0 ankur@ankur-desktop:
[18:11] <pharmankur> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069873/
[18:11] <escott> pharmankur, boot to windows and run chkdsk on those drives. and check the smart status
[18:12] <pharmankur> but i never used windows ..
[18:12] <escott> pharmankur, do you not have windows?
[18:12] <pharmankur> escott .. I never use windows since then
[18:13] <pharmankur> escott ok i will try
[18:13] <Eagleman7> Is it possible to use dns-nameservers 192.168.1.10 8.8.8.8 with  auto eth1.10    iface eth1.10 inet dhcp
[18:13] <stevesmename> I don't have a cd drive, I'm trying to install mythubuntu on a fresh pc. I tried unetbootin with the mythubuntu iso image but it didn't seem to work. I'm trying Ubuntu 12.x Live via the unetbootin app now.
[18:13] <promotheus> i just did that yesterday stevesmename and it worked
[18:14] <stevesmename> promotheus: you did what the mythubuntu iso via usb?
[18:14] <promotheus> no ubuntu 12.04 vua usb stevesmename
[18:14] <stevesmename> promotheus: cool, thx
[18:14] <promotheus> via*
[18:14] <promotheus> np
[18:15] <promotheus> can anyone tell me why g++ myfile.cpp also creates myfile.cpp~ ?
[18:15] <pharmankur> escott BTW how to run chkdsk in windows XP
[18:15] <escott> pharmankur, i dont know. i dont use windows
[18:15] <wp-developer> promotheus thats backup file when u save
[18:16] <Frederick> guys I have a problem, my system resized a partitom to install ubuntu and it seems to have unaligned the windoze partition hence now I cant seem to mount it.
[18:16] <promotheus> wp-developer: any way to disable it ? I didn't see it when on previous version of ubuntu
[18:17] <wp-developer> promotheus believe me its very usefull feature keep it
[18:17] <wp-developer> Frederick same happen with me yesterday
[18:17] <promotheus> okay wp-developer . ANother doubt is my battery indicator seems to change between white and red when it shows around 0:45 minutes left . Any idea why ?
[18:18] <wp-developer> what version u r using promotheus for ubuntu
[18:18] <escott> Frederick, find a windows rescue disk and boot that to chkdsk the drive
[18:19] <promotheus> wp-developer: 12.04
[18:19] <wp-developer> promotheus red means battery low?
[18:20] <promotheus> yeah wp-developer . But it changes between white and red.
[18:22] <naryfa> hello
[18:30] <ranjan> !apt
[18:30] <Eagleman7> How to change the DNS server recieved by DHCP?
[18:30] <Eagleman7> How to change the DNS server recieved by DHCP on a VLAN interface?
[18:30] <ranjan> Eagleman7: change in /etc/resolv.conf
[18:31] <Eagleman7> ranjan wont it come back?
[18:31] <ranjan> Eagleman7: it will when you request for an IP again
[18:31] <Eagleman7> How to make it persistent?
[18:31] <ranjan> Eagleman7: you may set attribute for the file so that it wont get modified
[18:31] <ranjan> Eagleman7: use chattr
[18:32] <escott> Eagleman7, you would have to change the dhcp server to use a different dns to change what you get from the dhcp server
[18:32] <Eagleman7> and this in my interface file? dns-nameservers 192.168.1.10 8.8.8.8
[18:32] <Eagleman7> escott Thats not an option
[18:32] <escott> Eagleman7, then configure network manager to only use the dhcp server for the ip address
[18:33] <Eagleman7> i dont have a network manager
[18:33] <Eagleman7> i'm on a CLI
[18:33] <ranjan> Eagleman7: then my method is the best
[18:33] <ranjan> Eagleman7: set attribute for the file
[18:33] <Eagleman7> so its impossible to change the file?
[18:34] <ranjan> Eagleman7: chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
[18:34] <escott> Eagleman7, have you looked in /etc/NetworkManager at all?
[18:34] <escott> Eagleman7, have you tried using nmcli?
[18:35] <ranjan> Eagleman7: setting chattr +i will make the file write protected
[18:35] <Eagleman7> escott there is no thing such as /etc/NetworkManager
[18:35] <Eagleman7> I am running ubuntu server
[18:35] <Eagleman7> i will ranjan thanks
[18:36] <Eagleman7> ranjan: chattr: Operation not supported while reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf
[18:37] <ranjan> Eagleman7: did you run the command as root or using sudo?
[18:37] <nicecrew> Hi everyon.
[18:37] <nicecrew> Is this the Ubuntu chat room?
[18:37] <ranjan> nicecrew: hi :)
[18:37] <Eagleman7> ranjan: root@eagleman:/home/user#
[18:37] <nicecrew> Great.
[18:37] <nicecrew> Can anyone help me run Ubuntu on my macbook?
[18:40] <ranjan> Eagleman7: you should remove the resolvconf package
[18:40] <ranjan> Eagleman7: http://vpnblog.info/change-dns-ubuntu.html
[18:40] <nicecrew> I'm sory for asking again, just wondering... can anyone help me out?
[18:41] <nicecrew> I want to run Ubuntu on my mac, just "attempted" to burn iso on a disc.
[18:41] <noev> Hi, I'm trying to instal ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop right now. After sticking the usb in and restarting the laptop the screen is stuck and displays SYSLINUX 4.06 EDD 4.06-pre1 Copyright (c) 1994-2011 H. Peter Anvin et al
[18:41] <noev> any help is greatly appreciated
[18:42] <nicecrew> noev: I would help.
[18:42] <nicecrew> But I am looking for help too.
[18:42] <nicecrew> And, don't know what to do.
[18:42] <MissVera> ditto :P
[18:42] <BluesKaj> noev, did you check the md5 sum on the disk after the burn?
[18:42] <escott> !md5sum | noev
[18:42] <nicecrew> So, there is no one on here that has any knowledge of Ubuntu? :D
[18:43] <Eagleman7> ranjan after removing resolvconf should i also set the +i?
[18:43] <escott> nicecrew, you havent yet asked an actual question
[18:43] <MissVera> nicecrew, people get busy. no need to be rude about it
[18:43] <ikonia> nicecrew: loads, but I'm not going to help you with that attitude.
[18:43] <noev> i did the md5sum already the iso file is ok
[18:43] <nicecrew> I am not trying to be rude, I was just staing a fact?
[18:43] <escott> nicecrew, you want help installing ubuntu on a macbook. in which case i would first recommend that you purchase a macbook
[18:43] <nicecrew> What attitude are you talking about, I put a smiley?
[18:43] <ikonia> nicecrew: no, you where asking a question
[18:43] <MissVera> Its a fact that everyone in here knows nothing about Ubuntu?
[18:43] <MissVera> Okay
[18:44] <ikonia> nicecrew: oh, a smiley, that makes it all ok then......
[18:44] <micah_> noev, try burning a cd instead of usb. i have had issues with some bios booting properly from usb
[18:44] <nicecrew> Well, I don't see how that's being mean.
[18:44] <nicecrew> But, I'm sorry.
[18:44] <MissVera> Then you're an idiot, which makes anyone helping you, a little pointless
[18:44] <noev> micah_: will try, thanks
[18:44] <escott> noev, how about the burned disk?
[18:44] <nicecrew> So, you guys won't help me?
[18:45] <micah_> nicecrew, whats your question
[18:45] <escott> noev, nevermind. you were using usb
[18:45] <nicecrew> Well, I'm trying to run Ubuntu on my mac..
[18:45] <nicecrew> I download the iso and it failed to mount.
[18:45] <BluesKaj> easy folks , don't succumb to "attitude" pls , nicecrew , just ask your question
[18:45] <nicecrew> Just wondering what happened?
[18:46] <escott> nicecrew, "failed to mount" where?
[18:46] <MissVera> how to google "failed to mount"...
[18:46] <nicecrew> Onto the disk?
[18:46] <micah_> nicecrew, ok i have never owned a mac but...what kind of errors are you getting? is the cd booting at all? did you set your bios to boot from cd?
[18:46] <nicecrew> IDK. It jsut says failed to mount.
[18:46] <escott> nicecrew, "it"?
[18:46] <nicecrew> Or it says "Mounting failted"
[18:47] <nicecrew> I'm not sure escott. That is just what it says.
[18:47] <escott> nicecrew, when?
[18:47] <escott> nicecrew, CONTEXT!!!!
[18:47] <nicecrew> After it finished downloading.
[18:47] <nicecrew> Context?
[18:47] <micah_> nicecrew, so you are having problems burning the iso to a disk?
[18:47] <nicecrew> Yes.
[18:47] <escott> nicecrew, you don't need to mount it after you download it. you need to burn it. there are instructions on the ubuntu.com website with pictures follow them
[18:48] <nicecrew> But, do I need to burn it to a disk if I want to run it on the mac I am downloading it on.
[18:48] <Enkwi> I want to send email from terminal, anyone could give me some tips?
[18:48] <nicecrew> I know that escott. And, I did follow them, but the burning failed because the installation failed.
[18:48] <micah_> nicecrew, yes you will have to burn it to a disk.
[18:48] <nicecrew> OK.
[18:48] <nostalgic> so the program is not making an iso ?
[18:49] <nostalgic> or does it make an iso and does the iso have errors?
[18:49] <nicecrew> No, it downloaded, but the installation is corrupt.
[18:49] <Enkwi> Do I need to do some setup ti make "mail" work in the command line?
[18:49] <nicecrew> When I click the iso it says "no mountable file systems"
[18:49] <escott> nicecrew, what you are doing is the equivalent of calling the mechanic and saying "my car, a light came on, i turned a switch, help, whats wrong, the light!!!"
[18:50] <nicecrew> I'm sorry escott.
[18:50] <nicecrew> I'm not very good at computers.
[18:50] <MissVera> herp
[18:50] <nicecrew> I don't know how I can further explain it because that's all that happened
[18:51] <nicecrew> .The disc I created is not readable when I put it in, so something is wrong.
[18:51] <Enkwi> Can you tell your problem again nicecrew?
[18:51] <escott> nicecrew, you need to tell us what you are doing, where you are doing it, what you have done, and if you are following instructions what instructions you followed
[18:51] <nicecrew> OK.
[18:51] <nicecrew> I will go though everything I did...
[18:51] <MissVera> you did burn as an image, not data, correct?
[18:51] <nicecrew> First, I went to Ubuntu website...
[18:51] <nicecrew> downloaded the iso
[18:52] <escott> nicecrew, 64bit or 32bit?
[18:52] <ranjan> hi all..
[18:52] <escott> nicecrew, desktop or server?
[18:52] <micah_> ranjan, hello
[18:52] <nicecrew> Desktop.
[18:52] <ranjan> any channels related to switches or routers?
[18:52] <nicecrew> 32 bit.
[18:52] <nicecrew> I click the start download and let it download.
[18:52] <micah_> ranjan, what do you need to know?
[18:53] <escott> nicecrew, you would probably want the 64bit... but you should be able to use the 32bit
[18:53] <nicecrew> The download finished and it read  beneath it "Mounting Failed".
[18:53] <Enkwi> @ranjan idk, you can look on the ubuntu website
[18:53] <escott> nicecrew, that error is just osx being stupid. you can ignore it
[18:53] <ranjan> micah_: need to know about applying port security in cisco switches
[18:53] <nicecrew> OK.
[18:53] <nicecrew> Well, then I went to burn it.
[18:53] <nicecrew> I put a blank DVD +R in.
[18:54] <dsirijus> how to remove a package COMPLETELY
[18:54] <nicecrew> Used disk utility like it said to burn it.
[18:54] <dsirijus> --purge doesn't work
[18:54] <rhizmoe> #cisco
[18:54] <micah_> ranjan, what kind of port security? are you trying to setup a firewall? or are you trying to do port forewording?
[18:54] <nicecrew> One thing was though, it said the disk was supposed to show next to the iso and it didn't.
[18:54] <Enkwi> can't you use apt-get delete or something like that?
[18:54] <nicecrew> Could that be a problem?
[18:54] <dsirijus> or, it maybe does remove it, but (for instance, nginx) it doesn't recreate default files when installed
[18:54] <Enkwi> or use "aptitude" ?
[18:54] <nostalgic> when you open the disk what files does it list?
[18:55] <ranjan> micah_: to do MAC binding
[18:55] <nicecrew> None. It says the disk in't readable.
[18:55] <alejandro> terminal email: mutt, vim, w3m configured to access gmail.
[18:55] <nostalgic> sounds like the program for iso burning failed midway
[18:55] <micah_> ranjan, hmm what is your model number of your router?
[18:55] <Enkwi> @alejandro you can send e mail with vim?
[18:55] <nostalgic> try burning on a lower speed setting or use a better program
[18:56] <alejandro> yes. i do it all of the time. it is great.
[18:56] <nicecrew> OK.
[18:56] <micah_> Enkwi, yes you can with vim and emacs.
[18:56] <nicecrew> Is disk utility good?
[18:56] <MissVera> could always say screw the cd and use one of the usb creators.
[18:56] <nicecrew> And, will the disk work on a macbook? intel mac
[18:56] <ranjan> micah_: port security in cisco switches
[18:56] <alejandro> w3m is needed to read html email better.
[18:56] <Enkwi> because I would like to create a script to email my IP adress
[18:57] <meowsus> Does anyone have any recommendations for a great Sound Conversion GUI? Like SoundConverter, but one that works? I'm looking to convert WAVs to Flac and MP3 but SoundConverter 1.4.4 keeps giving me headaches. Gstreamer errors about not being able to open the resource, even though all of the permissions are properly set. Can't find anything on google either.
[18:57] <Enkwi> so just need to copy my IP from a txt file
[18:57] <escott> Enkwi, you dont want to use dyndns?
[18:58] <Enkwi> escott, want to do it myself, just to work with linux a bit, because I am not too familiar with it yet
[18:58] <alejandro> google how to configure mutt, vim and w3m. i do not know about other editors.
[18:58] <Enkwi> okok thx a lot
[18:59] <nicecrew> OK. So, I launched disk utility. Inserted a blank CD/DVD. And have the iso in the disk utility panel but the disk is not there with it.
[18:59] <dr_willis> mail command.  is handy and old school
[18:59] <nostalgic> I'm unsure I do not own one but given the fact ive read that you can install multiple os on it with separate partitions like win7 and osx I dont see why not
[18:59] <Enkwi> dr_willis yeah do I need to setup a file so mail can work? because I tried but didn't work
[19:00] <dr_willis> disk utility is for managing hard drives
[19:00] <escott> dr_willis, he means osx disk utility. doesn't know how to burn in osx
[19:00] <dr_willis> Enkwi:  its doable..  i use dyndns.
[19:01] <dr_willis> escott:  ;)   osx should just magically work....
[19:01] <MissVera> Question.  I installed, no issues. It loaded, no issues, but then when i rebooted, its a black screen with a cursor. I had checked the cd, and it was fine. So, what could it be?
[19:01] <dsirijus> ok, i've uninstalled nginx from ubuntu, and deleted manually /etc/nginx and i've installed it again (apt-get install nginx) and rebooted server...
[19:01] <Enkwi> What are you trying to do on OS X?
[19:01] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[19:01] <dsirijus> there's not /etc/nginx there at all now!!
[19:02] <Enkwi> Well thx for the help with mail guys!!
[19:02] <alejandro> mutt, vim, and w3m is great if you are working off a ubuntu server.
[19:03] <Guest8045> hi all, just got an acer aspire one with nothing on it. just getting ready to try ubuntu 12.04 any tips?
[19:03] <MissVera> dr_wilis, does this apply to 12.04
[19:03] <dr_willis> netbook and 12,04 work goodhere
[19:04] <micah_> dsirijus, did you try to sudo apt-get purge ngnix?
[19:04] <MissVera> I meant, the http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[19:04] <nostalgic> thought you were using a pc XD
[19:04] <MissVera> Im a recent windows convert. So this is a bit confusing.
[19:05] <micah_> Guest8045, a tip would be...try installing it if it works great, if not tell us what issue you are having :)
[19:05] <dr_willis> nmodeset wirks for most all releases
[19:05] <dsirijus> micah_, yes
[19:06] <Guest8045> thanks micah_ !
[19:07] <MissVera> dr_willis...I gather what it is, but not what im supposed to do to fix this.
[19:08] <dr_willis> MissVera: its a common fix for some video issues
[19:08] <Guest8045> just tryin ubuntu off usb and my screen is only showing the top half?
[19:08] <nicecrew> Hi all.
[19:08] <nicecrew> I burned the iso to my disc and now don't know what to do?
[19:08] <nicecrew> Can anyone please help?
[19:08] <dr_willis> the !nomodeset page gives how to set it
[19:08] <nicecrew> Please. :)
[19:08] <micah_> dsirijus, did you just purge it now? or did you do that before you reinstalled it? do a purge then do an sudo apt-get install ngnix
[19:09] <dr_willis> nicecrew: boot the cd.
[19:09] <MissVera> dr_willis It gives info, but, for someone who knows nothing about any of this, it looks like a foreign language
[19:09] <nicecrew> It's in and nothing is happening dr_willis.
[19:09] <nicecrew> Do I have to put it in at startup?
[19:09] <MissVera> yes nicecrew
[19:09] <nicecrew> I noticed I had to with my pc.
[19:09] <nicecrew> OK.
[19:09] <nicecrew> Then partion it?
[19:09] <dr_willis> cd in. power on.
[19:09] <MissVera> boot from the disc
[19:10] <nicecrew> OK
[19:10] <nicecrew> Thanks.
[19:10] <LLStarks> hi, how do i use dpkg like gdebi without breaking everything?
[19:10] <MissVera> dr_willis Would you translate for me?
[19:11] <dr_willis> MissVera: i thought the screen shots were ckear. im on my phone so cant do i lok more
[19:11] <dr_willis> boot. hit e. edit the grub line,
[19:12] <MissVera> dr_wills, It says before install though... so. littlt too late for tht
[19:12] <dr_willis> it works either way,
[19:12] <micah_> MissVera, you can still do it after install. just reboot your machine, wait for the grub menu, hit e, add nomodeset to the end.
[19:13] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com may have guides also
[19:13] <MissVera> I dont get a menu
[19:13] <MissVera> I get my old HP Screen, and then a cursor.
[19:14] <dr_willis> hold shift for grub menu
[19:14] <Angana> hi team
[19:14] <Angana> i need one help
[19:14] <Angana> am using Ubuntu 12.4
[19:14] <MissVera> Now it's frozen on the HP screen...
[19:14] <Angana> am unable to make video call
[19:15] <Angana> using pidigin
[19:15] <Eagleman7> Where can i get the default state of named.conf.options ?
[19:16] <Angana> how to enable video chat in ubuntu 12.4
[19:16] <Guest8045> okay installing and i get an ioremap error then i only get top half of screen. looks like i can proceed with install though. should i?
[19:16] <Angana> am using pidigin
[19:16] <MissVera> No one?
[19:16] <Elchzard> cronjobs: 0 0 1 * * sh /home/elchzard/pywikipedia/unusedfiles.sh
[19:16] <LLStarks> how do i install a deb from the commandline without using gdebi?
[19:16] <Elchzard> that'll run that sh file at midnight every new month, right?
[19:16] <bekks> Elchzard: Make that file executable, and omit the "sh " at the beginning.
[19:17] <Elchzard> bekks: chmod +x thatfile.sh ?
[19:17] <bekks> Elchzard: right.
[19:17] <dr_willis> dpkj -i foo.deb
[19:17] <SnowRaptor> Whioch logfiles cpould I use to (remotely) diagnose random shutdowns on a laptop
[19:17] <SnowRaptor> ?
[19:17] <dr_willis> gdebi is better.
[19:17] <MissVera> micah_ ,  where is this grub menu???
[19:18] <ghostchick> LLStarks, dpkg  -i
[19:18] <bekks> dr_willis: gdebi uses dpkg. ;)
[19:18] <Elchzard> also, is it possible to append a date to a logfile?
[19:18] <Elchzard> i wanna log whether the actions from that sh file occur
[19:18] <dr_willis> and it does more then dpkg
[19:18] <Elchzard> and i'd just like to have the date in there XD
[19:18] <micah_> MissVera, when you restart your computer hold shift
[19:19] <Elchzard> how can I get the output from date "+%H:%M:%S %d/%m/%y" to print to a file, basically?
[19:19] <dr_willis> i wonder if youtube has a video of this.
[19:19] <ikonia> date "+%H:%M:%S %d/%m/%y" > file
[19:19] <escott> Elchzard, | lpr
[19:19] <MissVera> I did micah_. Now I'm stuck on the screen that says esc=boot menu  F1= setup,   etc
[19:19] <escott> Elchzard, sorry you mean to a file... not actually printing
[19:19] <Elchzard> yeah escott, i think ikonia got it :)
[19:20] <Elchzard> Yaayy, thanks guys :)
[19:20] <escott> Elchzard, > deletes the file and creates a new one >> appends
[19:20] <bekks> Elchzard: mycommand > logfile-`date "+%H:%M:%S %d/%m/%y"`
[19:20] <MissVera> micah_ ?
[19:20] <Elchzard> got it, cheers
[19:22] <MissVera> :/
[19:22] <micah_> MissVera, hmm. hit ctrl+alt+delete and wait until you get past your Post messages(the screen your on now) then hold shift
[19:23] <amccloud> I'm trying to create an upstart script but keep getting "initctl: Unknown job: myscript"
[19:23] <ghostchick> MissVera, pick f1 and then edit the grub line to add the nomodeset
[19:23] <amccloud> I've created a symbolic link myscript -> /lib/init/upstart-job
[19:24] <amccloud> and placed the conf in /etc/init/myscript.conf
[19:24] <michal__> any idea why guake is slow to show up when I press F12 on a freshly installed system (12.04) ?
[19:25] <amccloud> https://gist.github.com/1b178eb175d30ca1969d
[19:25] <carlos> hola
[19:26] <carlos> alguien con quien conversar
[19:26] <MissVera> micah_ shift doesnt do anything, so it keeps cycling back to the post message
[19:26] <micah_> MissVera, strange are you positive that it installed correctly?
[19:26] <Elchzard> another question: Can I get something to echo to that file on the same line as the output of date?
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> Elchzard  use tee
[19:27] <MissVera> micah_ Yes.No issues. It installed then loaded. I used it for awhile, then turned it off for the night. Turned it on this morning, and cursor..
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> Elchzard  like: date | tee blah
[19:27] <Elchzard> Ahhh okay, ty
[19:27] <escott> Elchzard, echo `date` `whatever`
[19:27] <ghostchick> micah_,   the grub file  can be also edited from a live cd
[19:27] <micah_> MissVera, is this a server install or desktop?
[19:27] <escott> Elchzard, or echo -n `date`
[19:27] <Elchzard> escott: I need the actual output of date command, not just "date"
[19:28] <bekks> Elchzard: I told you ;)
[19:28] <nicecrew> Can anyone help?
[19:28] <nicecrew> I burned the ubuntu iso to a disc and now am having trouble getting it to run on my macbook.
[19:28] <escott> Elchzard, there is a reason i type ``
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> nicecrew: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded and did you burn as slowly as possible?
[19:29] <MissVera> Alrighty, I'll work on it later.
[19:29] <micah_> ghostchick, true she may have to do that,
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> !mac| nicecrew start here
[19:29] <nicecrew> Buned it as slowly as possible, but what is the MD5?
[19:29] <bekks> nicecrew: Which trouble do you have booting the CD?
[19:29] <nicecrew> I did see that MonkeyDust. But, I have no idea what the instructions are telling me..
[19:29] <alejandro> can you run a linux distro on a mac which based on darwin bsd?
[19:29] <escott> nicecrew, DONT CROSSPOST
[19:30] <ICWiener> What is the best way to use a linux box as a router and a computer @ the same time. I have ubuntu/lubuntu/kubuntu/debian/pclos/slacko/dsl/etc... I just don't know how to use as a router
[19:30] <nicecrew> bekks: I burned it and try running it at the startup but it doesn't. I held down "c" and the mouse like it asked and it didn't work.
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> alejandro: i'd ask in #freebsd
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | nicecrew
[19:30] <nicecrew> escott: Sorry. I'm sticking to this room now.
[19:30] <nicecrew> I'm un osx ubottu.
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> nicecrew: there is an MD5 tester for mac
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> nicecrew: ubottu is also a bot ;)
[19:31] <nicecrew> Oh.
[19:31] <nicecrew> Where is the MD5 tester for mac?
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> nicecrew: the MD5 tests the ISO you used is complete and consistent
[19:31] <nicecrew> How and where do I do this ActionParsnip?
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> nicecrew: read the link ubottu gave, thats what it's for. why do you think I triggered it...
[19:32] <escott> nicecrew, if you hadn't been crossposting everyone would have seen the full description of your problem and ActionParsnip would know its not an md5sum issue
[19:32] <bjrohan> Hey everyone. I just did an upgrade (not sure which packages) and now Flash on my browsers is very slow. Any thoughts? I am running 12.04
[19:33] <nicecrew> I'm sorry escott.
[19:33] <nicecrew> ActionParsnip: That's windows MD5 instructions. I need mac ones.
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> escott: I don't see any text in my client suggesting any MD5 test and the user didn't know what MD5 is so I doubt it's been done :)_
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> nicecrew: on http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM which is in ubotttu's link, read te right hand side
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> nicecrew: 3 MD5SUM on Mac OS X
[19:34] <escott> ActionParsnip, his efi isn't even trying to boot the cd
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> nicecrew: that is how to MD5 test in mac
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> escott: its good to check
[19:34] <nicecrew> OK.
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> nicecrew: had you clicked the link, you'd have seen that
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> nicecrew: did you even click the link
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> nicecrew: it's there, clear as day..
[19:37] <Guest14217> hola instale ubuntu studio 12. 4 y cuando inicio la pc me sale el cartel que el monitor no recibe señal , y no me muestra la lista de S.O me podrian decir los comandos que tengo que usar para poner el grub en 1024x768
[19:37] <nicecrew> I saw it ActionParsnip.
[19:37] <nicecrew> Now I ahve a problem MD5 isn't an optinon.
[19:37] <nicecrew> only CRC-32 image checksum
[19:37] <LjL> !es | Guest14217
[19:37] <|Long|> what is the cmd to add a group?
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> nicecrew: so why the "That's windows MD5 instructions." when it clearly states Mac?
[19:38] <nicecrew> Sorry. I didn't see it at first.
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: do you mean add a new group?
[19:38] <|Long|> ActionParsnip, yes new group admin
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: admin is already a standing group
[19:38] <ICWiener> What is the best way to use a linux box as a router and a computer @ the same time. I have ubuntu/lubuntu/kubuntu/debian/pclos/slacko/dsl/etc... I just don't know how to use as a router.
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: do you mean add a user to the admin group?
[19:38] <creature> Hello. I DBANed a system and am trying to get it to boot, but it absolutely refuses to. I tried to repair it using the bootrepair disk, which produced this report, but it still doesn't boot. If anyone has any suggestions, I am all ears. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069992/
[19:38] <nicecrew> But, now I have a problem still MD5 isn't an options;
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> nicecrew: isn't there the md5sum command in the terminal?
[19:39] <nicecrew> No.
[19:39] <bekks> Then that OSX is broken.
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> nicecrew: what model mac do you have please
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> OSX is made broken
[19:40] <nicecrew> 3,1
[19:40] <bekks> ActionParsnip: ;)
[19:40] <nicecrew> One sec. I'll try something else.
[19:40] <Cottus> ICWiener, you can use iptables to forward internet and dhcp-server
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> nicecrew: http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/  may help
[19:40] <|Long|> ActionParsnip,  sudo adduser david admin
[19:40] <|Long|> adduser: The group `admin' does not exist.
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[19:41] <|Long|> precise
[19:42] <nicecrew> I still can't get it.
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: then you have some serious issues dude
[19:42] <|Long|> oh this is new installation
[19:42] <escott> |Long|, you probably want the sudo group
[19:42] <LjL> ActionParsnip: i thought in Precise the group was called 'sudo'
[19:43] <escott> nicecrew, im getting tired or "it"
[19:43] <nicecrew> Of what?
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> LjL: you are right, is that a Precise thing?
[19:43] <LjL> ActionParsnip: yea
[19:43] <nicecrew> I'm staying in the same room.
[19:43] <escott> nicecrew, i dont know. thats why im tired of "it"
[19:43] <|Long|> i wanna add one user to admin grp what is the cd to do that?
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> LjL: didn't know that one, I guess it's more inline with Debian
[19:43] <nicecrew> I don't understand?
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: you will need to make the admin group first
[19:43] <escott> nicecrew, stop saying "it" be specific
[19:44] <nicecrew> OK.
[19:44] <nicecrew> I tried method 2 and mehtod 3 of MD5 for mac osx and neither worked.
[19:44] <Eagleman7> Is it possible to set 2 IP's in <VirtualHost >? for example: <VirtualHost 10.8.0.1:80 192.168.1.10:80>
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: if you want to give david access to sudo etc, you will need to add him to the sudo group
[19:44] <bekks> Eagleman7: No.
[19:44] <Guest26329> nicecrew: what are you trying to do?
[19:44] <Eagleman7> create a seperate virtualhost bekks?
[19:44] <bekks> Eagleman7: Yes.
[19:44] <nicecrew> I'm trying to do a MD5 test on my iso.
[19:44] <Eagleman7> bekks: Ty.
[19:44] <nicecrew> Since, my CD doesn't seem to be working..
[19:45] <Guest26329> nicecrew: Did you try the built in disk check?
[19:45] <nicecrew> Yes. That was method 1.
[19:45] <nicecrew> I miswrote, I meant I tried method 1 and 2.
[19:45] <Guest26329> And what happened?
[19:45] <nicecrew> For method 2, nothing happened.
[19:46] <nicecrew> Method 1, there was no MD5 option.
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> LjL: that whole sudo thing was kept quiet...
[19:46] <escott> nicecrew, what about the third method (same as 2 but with "openssl md5" instead of "md5"
[19:46] <nicecrew> Do I drag the iso in just like method 2? escott
[19:46] <Guest26329> I mean for the disk check on in the live environment? What exactly happened?
[19:47] <escott> nicecrew, supposedly\
[19:47] <bekks> nicecrew: How long did you wait for the command to output something?
[19:47] <escott> nicecrew, i dont think the md5sum is related to your not booting. you need to do something to tell the computer to boot the cd. it doesnt do so automatically
[19:47] <mschr> I have got no HDMI audio, power meters pulse, playback seems fine but no audio... FIXME : http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=0LJBQAvt
[19:47] <nicecrew> I know. It said to hold down c and the mouse.
[19:48] <nicecrew> That didn't work.
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> mschr: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[19:50] <Elchzard> In an sh file, will the next line execute when the previous one is FINISHED, or when it's started?
[19:51] <bekks> Eagleman7: finished.
[19:51] <escott> Elchzard, ; after its finished && after its finished with 0 exit code & after its started
[19:51] <mschr> actionparsnip
[19:51] <mschr> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=05cdf4e9a1b7041fe0efdfe033484793d81eccf1
[19:51] <nicecrew> I'm officially lost. I burned the disc and can't seem to find how to get the CD to boot.
[19:52] <Elchzard> so say one line runs a python script, the next one sends lines to a log file
[19:52] <amccloud> can upstart be anymore cryptic ?
[19:52] <Elchzard> the python script gives output to the terminal
[19:52] <Elchzard> the lines will print to logfile once the python script is done?
[19:52] <amccloud> Failed to spawn myscript main process: unable to execute: No such file or directory
[19:52] <amccloud> would be nice to know what file or directory it's talking about
[19:52] <Elchzard> (by gives output I mean: it keeps the process in the foreground, i don't get another [elchzard@veetor]"
[19:53] <Elchzard> prompt)
[19:53] <escott> amccloud, where is the script? are you giving a full path?
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> mschr: why suchan old release, Lucid only has 9 months support left on desktop.
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> mschr: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa; sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*      wait 10 seconds then reboot
[19:54] <amccloud> escott: https://gist.github.com/2f5736f6e5b5bc8cdab7
[19:54] <Elchzard> so say one line runs a python script, the next one sends lines to a log file, and the python script stays in the foreground, the lines will print to the logfile after the python script is done?
[19:55] <amccloud> it's in /etc/init/myscript.conf
[19:55] <bekks> Elchzard: No, not after, but while.
[19:55] <escott> amccloud, are you sure you want a chroot?
[19:55] <amccloud> I tried chdir and cd too
[19:56] <mschr> actionparsnip what would be needed to upgrade to 12.04?
[19:56] <fe80> mschr, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:57] <ghostchick> ActionParsnip,  is the 10 secs the time for the computer to write the info back to disc, would not a sudo sync work also ?
[19:57] <CharlieSu> Hi all.  Some of my Ubuntu boxes are acting extremely strange.  Their load average is super high and I'm unable to SSH into them.  This looks like it happened because of the leap second change.  Any ideas?
[19:57] <nicecrew> Hey, I just heard that you can run linux on virtual machine? How would I do that on my macbook?
[19:57] <ghostchick> fe80,  are you a former debian user?
[19:57] <escott> amccloud, you probably dont. does it work outside the service declaration?
[19:57] <bekks> CharlieSu: Reboot them.
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> mschr: you can do it in one jump as it is LTS to LTS, personaly I'd clean install. You can use Lucid and its fully supported til April next year
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> mschr: the command I gave should sort you out
[19:57] <amccloud> escott: yes
[19:57] <fe80> ghostchick, i have used everything from debian to gentoo
[19:58] <CharlieSu> bekks: does that fix things or is that just the default answer?
[19:58] <mschr> so, format c:? :p
[19:58] <bekks> CharlieSu: It should fix things.
[19:58] <CharlieSu> bekks: thanks!
[19:58] <mschr> thats why, system is running months at a time uptime, has multiple self-signed programs installed etc
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> mschr: well, in linux it's  '/'  but same differnce. Is this Lucid install quite fresh?
[19:59] <mschr> there's nothing missing, dont worry - have been experimenting slightly with the fglrx though
[19:59] <fe80> mschr, your going from LTS to LTS? i would definintly to a fresh install by downloading and burning the iso
[19:59] <amccloud> escott: I have initctl log level set to debug and it's still not outputting anything close to useful :|
[20:00] <zacktu> I like the terminal that I get with <ctrl><alt>T better than the terminal I get with the launcher.  How can I modify the path used by the launcher?
[20:00] <escott> amccloud, the chroot in what you posted is wrong, the path should be absolute
[20:00] <mschr> no more talk about cleaning / when i return after a 22 sec reboot plz
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> zacktu: if you use terminal a lot I suggest you install guake :)
[20:00] <zacktu> actionparsnip: what is quake?
[20:00] <amccloud> escott: It's not?
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> zacktu: did you ever play quake/half-life etc?
[20:01] <zacktu> actionparsnip: no
[20:01] <escott> amccloud, you should have a single exec line with a full path to the executable
[20:01] <emet> why does the RAM I bought from newegg crash my PC when written to
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> zacktu: its a terminal that hides and shows from the top of the screen on shortcut key
[20:01] <amccloud> escott: as I mentioned in the note in the script I pasted I've tried that also
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> zacktu: you can set a command going, hide guake and it will continue to run. Also supports tabs
[20:02] <amccloud> exec /srv/myscript/env/bin/gunicorn app.wsgi:application -b 0.0.0.0:8000 -w 4
[20:02] <fe80> i love guake :)
[20:02] <zacktu> ok i'll look into quak -- my use of terminal began with ed -- then ex -- then vi
[20:02] <escott> amccloud, and what error messages do you get when starting it that way?
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> zacktu: you can re-show it with the same shortcut to check progrees if the command takes a long time, saves having to hunt for your terminal window
[20:02] <zacktu> thanks
[20:02] <amccloud> escott: Failed to spawn myscript main process: unable to execute: No such file or directory
[20:03] <emet> robertzaccour: hey
[20:03] <Anastasius> Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit.
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> Anastasius: please don't
[20:03] <elcasey> oh, a new Ubuntu user
[20:03] <escott> amccloud, and what happens when you try to run the exec line on the cli
[20:03] <Anastasius> ActionParsnip: Fuck off.
[20:03] <muelli> jesus christ. I've got a horribly broken machine, probably because the update from 10.04 to 12.04 broke halfway through. Now it doesn't boot properly and apt-get doesn't work, i.e. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1070048/ Can anybody tell me how to get rid of "Package is in a very bad inconsistent state"?
[20:03] <emet> elcasey: hi I'm new how do I use the Internet
[20:04] <robertzaccour> he's probably just frustrated about somethin
[20:04] <muelli> (this time it's me needing help... -.-)
[20:04] <optimight> #haskell
[20:04] <robertzaccour> ouch
[20:04] <elcasey> emet: why do you need internet, don't you have facebook?
[20:04] <emet> that's true
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> Anastasius: please keep the channel family friendly
[20:05] <fe80> Anastasius, is that really necessary?
[20:05] <Anastasius> Why isn't a facebook included in the latest interation of Ubutnu?
[20:05] <emet> I don't think it is
[20:05] <ghostchick> fe80,  I asked this question because the mistake you made is  often made by former debian users, in ubuntu    the dist-upgrade just upgrades all packages , it does not upgrade of version therefore it is quite "safe"
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> muelli: if you can find the deb file in /var/cache/apt/archives  you can force install it and it may help
[20:06] <Anastasius> ActionParsnip: Are you the internet police? No? Then go hump a tree.
[20:06] <escott> !ops | Anastasius
[20:06] <fe80> Anastasius, facebook is a website that is viewed through a browser. you can have a facebook on your ubuntu. you have a facebook account on facebook and view it through a browser that you install on ubuntu.
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> !ops | Anastasius
[20:06] <Corey> Let us be civil.
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> Anastasius: no but I know folks who are
[20:06] <Anastasius> Oh dear.
[20:06] <emet> !facebook | Anastasius
[20:06] <twirm> Can someone help me find where I should file a bug when my indicators won't load inside Unity?
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> AntiSpamMeta: please be civil, it's a simple thing to achieve
[20:06] <amccloud> escott: it works
[20:07] <Corey> ActionParsnip: I find AntiSpamMeta to be quite civil. :-)
[20:07] <mschr> actionparsnip aplay -D plughw:1,3 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav => power meters pulse on HDMI card, no audio playing..
[20:07] <amccloud> escott: when I run the exec by itself
[20:07] <muelli> hm. thx ActionParsnip. I might try to work my way through the whole mess like that. Now it complains about "Package keyboard-configuration is not installed". I'll probably manually install  those using dpkg -i. At least I'll try
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> mschr: do you get sound from regular speakers?
[20:07] <ghostchick> ActionParsnip,   you do prefer terminator to quake ; )
[20:07] <zykotick9> ghostchick: dist-upgrade is the same in debian and ubuntu.  it's just a very misunderstood command...
[20:07] <mschr> aplay -D hw:1,3 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav => aplay: set_params:996: Channels count non available
[20:07] <fe80> ghostchick, you are right there is a seperate command for upgrading to a new release. one that i can't remember right now. thank you for correcting me though.
[20:07] <mschr> actionparsnip yes
[20:07] <escott> amccloud, not sure then
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> ghostchick: i find guake's hide function to be awesome
[20:08] <twirm> is this the wrong place to ask questions about bug placement, is there a better channel to help me with that?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> mschr: great, in the sound settings, is the HDMI set as the output device?
[20:08] <amccloud> escott: okay thanks
[20:08] <ghostchick> zykotick9,  i know it is not a separate command but well i was just answering very late because was asking about upgrading of ubuntu releases
[20:08] <ghostchick> fe80,  it is  update-manager -d
[20:09] <ghostchick> fe80,  and dont worry it just shows your experience
[20:09] <zykotick9> ghostchick: -d is development (alpha/beta).  fe80
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> muelli: once you get that package fixed then run:  sudo apt-get -f install     should help
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> twirm: could run:  ubuntu-bug ubuntu    and it will be moved if necessary
[20:10] <mschr> ActionParsnip yes, card 1 device 3 is the hdmi, all channels are unmuted, pulseaudio has fallback sink to hdmi, sound output setting is hdmi, i pipe aplay through hdmi - same result, looks like its playing but no audio
[20:10] <BluesKaj> ghostchick, sudo -do-release upgrade , add the -d  argument for upgrading to a development release
[20:10] <mschr> and yes, volume is up on TV as well :)
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> mschr: my sound troubleshooting is not great. Have you tried Precise liveUSB / CD to see if it's ok there
[20:11] <BluesKaj> oops wrong syntax , the command is sudo do-release-upgrade
[20:11] <mschr> nope
[20:11] <ghostchick> zykotick9,  then it shows how much i m into betas sorry
[20:11] <muelli> ActionParsnip: let's hope so. But the update-manager, which I called but which for some unknown reason crashed half way through, probably does more than apt-getting all the necessary packages, no? So can I (easily and) manually do what update-manager does?
[20:11] <BluesKaj> ghostchick,^
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> mschr: could be worth a try, just to test
[20:12] <mycae> Hello, I'm having some trouble with my ppa, ive uploaded a precise package to launchpad, via dput, and that reported OK
[20:12] <mycae> but its not showing up in the launchpad web interface
[20:13] <mycae> attempting to upload again simply results in "already been uploaded" msg
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> mycae   a ppa is an "external" and unofficial software source, it is not supported here, you use ppa's at your own risk
[20:14] <twirm> ActionParsnip, what package are the application indicators (clock, time, messaging) inside of for unity?
[20:14] <mycae> MonkeyDust, Im *providing* the ppa
[20:14] <mycae> its *launchpad* that is not working, apparently.
[20:14] <mycae> or ive done something wrong in the upload.
[20:14] <trism> mycae: did you check your email? the upload may have been rejected
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> twirm: not sure tbh
[20:15] <mycae> ah, thanks trism
[20:15] <twirm> ActionParsnip, awesome, I just stuck it inside Unity
[20:15] <twirm> hopefully that gets it taken care of
[20:15] <nullslash> Does anyone know how to switch between desktops (eg. gnome, kde) without touching gdm or kdm? I want to know the command line to do that
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> nullslash:  you mean by editing your .dmrc?
[20:17] <mschr> actionparsnip have no cd's at hand im afraid - i know for a fact though, that it has run before even automatically changing audio itself (mby during gnome-session login though)
[20:18] <mschr> so trying the beta fglrx
[20:19] <angs> how can I transfer a file through the serial port connection by scp command? what do I suppose to write for the "root@remote.host" part?
[20:19] <Dr_Willis> serial port? whats connected to the other end?
[20:19] <Melior> Anyone with good lftp config loading experience that can confirm this will work? http://pastebin.com/eVhZKBB9
[20:19] <nullslash> Dr_Willis, ha, let me test it
[20:20] <diegoviola> hi
[20:20] <angs> an embedded board that runs ubuntu as well, but it does not have the internet connection
[20:20] <bekks> angs: No.
[20:20] <angs> I just have the serial port connection
[20:20] <Dr_Willis> angs:  if its using a serial connection, you would use some sort of serial terminal app. Unless its set up to use SLIP or some other sort of network0ng over serial port thing.
[20:20] <supercom32> Does the power management setting "spin down hard disks when possible", only apply to external hard drives? Because I can forsee the operating system HD being accessed way too often to be spun down.
[20:20] <diegoviola> what's the easiest way to share files between ubuntu desktops for people that have never used ubuntu before? I know I can just use scp/sftp myself, but what about for people that have no Linux experience?
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> angs  try  scp file [user]@[remote ip]/home/[remote user]
[20:21] <creature> diegoviola: Dropbox?
[20:21] <Dr_Willis> angs:  does the thing have some sort of ip# over the serial port?
[20:21] <bekks> MonkeyDust: He has no remote IP on the serial connection.
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> bekks  idd, i'm wrong there
[20:21] <Dr_Willis> no ip = no useing of scp. :) as far as i know
[20:21] <zykotick9> diegoviola: if it's a local network, check out nfs
[20:22] <angs> MonkeyDust: it does not have IP address since it is not connected to the net. what do I suppose to write for the [remote ip]?
[20:22] <diegoviola> thanks
[20:22] <Dr_Willis> angs:  you can have an ip for yur local lan. and not be on the 'net'
[20:22] <diegoviola> and yes, it's for local network
[20:22] <Dr_Willis> angs:  you may be needing to check the docs for that   board.
[20:22] <angs> Dr_Willis: it has a static IP number that I assigned before
[20:23] <Dr_Willis> angs:  then it does have an ip...
[20:23] <angs> I am using minicom package
[20:23] <Dr_Willis> minicom is a serial app. it wouldebt be using the ip#
[20:23] <bekks> angs: You cant use scp over a serial connection, unless you set up something like the already mentioned SLIP, or similar.
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> !info minicom
[20:23] <fe80> diegoviola, you can use nfs, smb, or heck even ftp would be simple enough.
[20:24] <bollsaq> hey yall
[20:24] <zykotick9> fe80: smb and ftp are bad suggestions.  diegoviola
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> if you use minicom to get a 'shell' on the Board. then it Might support  zmodem, or other protocals.
[20:25] <fe80> zykotick9, why are they bad suggestions?
[20:25] <CMO> Hi everyone need some linux noobs pls
[20:25] <zykotick9> Dr_Willis: i recall trying (and failing) to use minicom to connect with a cisco router.  ended up using lower level tools - but forget the details :(
[20:25] <CMO> need a dynamic dns server for linux
[20:25] <wdp_> Oo
[20:25] <angs> I tried the static IP that I assigned before, but scp did not work for it. is there any package/command to transfer a file through the serial port connection?
[20:26] <zykotick9> fe80: smb is windows and thus unreliable/buggy.  ftp just needs to die!
[20:26] <supercom32> Does the power management setting "spin down hard disks when possible", only apply to external hard drives? Because I can forsee the operating system HD being accessed way too often to be spun down.
[20:26] <CMO> dont use static ip instaid use port forwarding
[20:26] <CMO> i need a dynamic dns server for linux
[20:26] <CMO> please help
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> CMO  how is that ubuntu related?
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> CMO: could use no-ip or dydns so you can use a name. Thet IP to name resolutionj will get updated regularly
[20:27] <zykotick9> CMO: unless you assign DHCP to always assign the same IP - static ips and port forwarding go hand-in-hand.
[20:27] <CMO> i would like to create my own dynamic dns
[20:27] <CMO> server
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> CMO: Why do you need a DNS server? Are you port forwarding from the LAN to your PC?
[20:27] <ghostchick> zykotick9,  well i was seeing ftp as a good option linked with a firefox accessing it or any simple  ftp application , what is the future ftp ; )
[20:28] <fe80> zykotick9, i know smb is for windows isnt that what he needed and since when did it become unreliable and buggy. i use it every day and have for years. and ftp is very stable and fast not to mention makes sure that the file you are trying to access makes it across the network complete.
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> CMO: if you want to manage a DNS you can use dnsmasq. It also gives a DHCP service if you desire
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> CMO  i guess your pc then needs dhcpd
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> fe80: smb can also be used by mac
[20:28] <zykotick9> ghostchick: see http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[20:28] <CMO> dnsmasq does it support dynamic dns
[20:28] <harris> What is androids irc channel
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> CMO: what do you mean "dynamic dns"
[20:29] <guntbert> harris: /msg alis list *android*    will tell you
[20:29] <CMO> well such as freedns
[20:29] <harris> What
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> CMO: if your IP is dynamic on the WAN side of your router then you can use the client app to refresh the IP on the DNS service you use
[20:29] <fe80> ActionParsnip, exactly it's cross platform which is why i suggested it :). zykotick9
[20:30] <harris> I need a app That gives my tablet face I unlock
[20:30] <fe80> CMO, i know no-ip has a linux client as i have used it before.
[20:30] <mschr> R 350 + 12.9 beta = nono, confirmed..
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> CMO: if you want your web facing IP to resolve to a name, you can use no-ip or dydns, you don't need any DNS servers installing on your system
[20:31] <CMO> just a dum question can i use dnsmasq to configure my router dns 2 it
[20:31] <ICWiener> My Webcam says it's connected via usb. WTF? Do I have an internal USB adapter just for the webcam, or something?
[20:31] <bekks> CMO: No.
[20:31] <Elchzard> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1070087/
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> CMO: no, you will need to access the config page of therouter
[20:31] <Elchzard> That's the sh script and the output I get when I try to run it
[20:31] <mschr> actionparsnip i do however have a device or resource busy now -,-
[20:31] <ghostchick> zykotick9,  thanks for the link , well it might be a strong worded but most remarks are interesting , so now which is the future option you recommend,, and well even bash compared to fish or zsh is the past
[20:31] <Elchzard> Am I gonna have to edit the .py for that to actually run in the background, or has anyone got any ideas?
[20:32] <CMO> thanks cmo but would it let me control the dns server if i configure it and my pc is a part of local area
[20:32] <fe80> ICWiener, alot of internal devices run on the usb protocols. thus your internal webcam could be shown as connected via usb
[20:32] <CMO> thanks bekks but would it let me control the dns server if i configure it and my pc is a part of local area
[20:32] <Jonny1> Hi. Does anyone know how I can delete all user accounts from Ubuntu 12.04 so that the next time the machine boots it goes to the setup users stage?
[20:32] <fe80> ICWiener, internal devices like webcams and some microphones i should specify...
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> CMO: if you have a local DNS server you can configure it as you desire. It's not needed if you have a DNS name registered to your IP
[20:32] <zykotick9> ghostchick: nfs for local (unix native) or scp/sshfs for remote would be my suggestions
[20:33] <bekks> CMO: Uhm, no.
[20:33] <itJunky> t
[20:33] <Cottus> Jonny1, i don't think it will
[20:33] <ghostchick> zykotick9, thanks for the nfs ; )
[20:33] <CMO> thanks bekks for all ur help and thanks everyone you the BEST Nan1a OUT!
[20:34] <bekks> root in irc. o.O
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> Jonny1: If you delete the files in your user's home (except ~/.bashrc and ~/.profile) the user will get vanilla settings next login
[20:34] <goddard> anyone know of any good encrypted note systems similar to tomboy?
[20:34] <fe80> Jonny1, you can remove users one at a time by using userdel
[20:34] <fe80> Jonny1, but if you remove everything it will not do what you asked for.
[20:35] <ghostchick> goddard,  gnome only?
[20:35] <zykotick9> Jonny1: isn't the initial user setup during install?  i don't remember seeing any program after that does that prompting?
[20:35] <Cottus> Jonny1, you can also setup a new user, and then remove all else
[20:35] <goddard> ghostchick: it doesn't matter
[20:35] <harrrismrubin> what is the android channel
[20:35] <fe80> Jonny1, use useradd to add a new user, userdel to remove users
[20:36] <wylde> !alis | harrrismrubin
[20:36] <harris> I was wondering the same thing
[20:36] <harrrismrubin> what???
[20:36] <ghostchick> goddard, well baskets  has encrypted settings , but there is various others
[20:37] <goddard> ghostchick: ill look into it even terminal based would be fine
[20:37] <zykotick9> goddard: gnote is a c++ port of tomboy, not sure about your encryption requirement.
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> harrrismrubin  it's #android, but you need to register to have access, just tried
[20:38] <harrrismrubin> what do you mean register
[20:38] <guntbert> !register | harrrismrubin
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: does it upload to ubuntuone and stuff?
[20:38] <nim0_> i have an idea partitioning my system :   / into a 20 gb SSD.... and /home on a regular 2TB hdd........makes any sense ??
[20:38] <supercom32> Does the power management setting "spin down hard disks when possible", only apply to external hard drives? Because I can forsee the operating system HD being accessed way too often to be spun down.
[20:38] <harrrismrubin> i have to register my nickname to go on #androud
[20:38] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: no.  unless you put it's directory in a sync folder.
[20:38] <Jonny1> fe80: Cottus: zykotick9: ActionParsnip: Thanks all for the suggestions. I am about to sell my old PC but I wanted to leave Ubuntu there but ready for the new owner to setup their own user account. Like the computer is when you first install Ubuntu. Maybe I should just do a clean install fom the CD.
[20:39] <harrrismrubin> #android
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> harrrismrubin  yes
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: cool, just curious :)
[20:39] <Cottus> Jonny1, setup a new user, and remove all rest,
[20:39] <creature> supercom32: As far as I know it applies to all disks. If you're not loading new programs and have a reasonable amount of RAM, your OS drive may not be accessed as frequently as you think.
[20:39] <Cottus> Jonny1, by installing you'll still have to setup a new user
[20:39] <fe80> Jonny1, you may look at downloading the alternate iso, you can do an oem type install so all they will need to do when recieving the pc is to setup there username password and other simple settings like that
[20:40] <Cottus> Jonny1, i agree with fe80
[20:40] <Jonny1> Cottus: Good point. fe80: Yes thats exactly what I want. An oem install.
[20:41] <Jonny1> Thanks everyone
[20:41] <your_favorite_ha> harrismrubin
[20:41] <fe80> Jonny1, you are welcome :)
[20:41] <supercom32> creature: Do you happen to know what the interval for that would be? I mean, the interval that Ubuntu waits before it considers a drive idle?
[20:42] <creature> supercom32: Something tells me it's 5 seconds, but I have no idea if that's true or not. I'd suspect it backs onto the ACPI settings.
[20:42] <your_favorite_ha> how do i change my nick back to harrrismrubin
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> !nick
[20:43] <Num83rGuy> I have a problem with network manager not auto starting connections.
[20:43] <creature> supercom32: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39760/how-can-i-control-hdd-spin-down-time might help.
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> Jonny1  there's oem-config
[20:45] <Jonny1> MonkeyDust: Thanks. I will google that
[20:45] <Num83rGuy> Network will not auto-start my VPN connection though I have that option checked.
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> Num83rGuy: is the confg for the connection to atoconnect? Are you using DHCP?
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> Num83rGuy: ahh vpn
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> !vpn
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> Num83rGuy: may help
[20:46] <Num83rGuy> ActionParsnip: Thanks I will look into it.
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> Num83rGuy: let me search too
[20:47] <sarsaeol> can anyone tell me why one hfs+ drive connectd through eSata would be rw but another hfs+ drive is read only? neither have journaling enabled
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> Num83rGuy: if you add a startup item to run: nmcli con up id ConnectionName      it will connect ConnectionName  for you
[20:47] <sarsaeol> second drive connected through USB
[20:48] <fe80> Jonny1, MonkeyDusk, problem with just running oem-config is it will not wipe the system back to a fresh install and the other users will still be there unless you remove manually. installing via oem install will use oem-config
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> sarsaeol: are the partitions healthy and unmounted gracefully last time they were unplugged
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> sarsaeol: if you just rip the USB from the system without first ejecting it, it makes issues
[20:48] <sarsaeol> yes, the second usb drive was formatted using gparted but has never been able to be written... always unmounte3d using gparted or disk util
[20:48] <Jonny1> fe80: I think I will do a clean oem install from the alternate CD. That way I can wipe everything and there wont be any broken packages left either
[20:49] <sarsaeol> ActionParsnip: i would never be so cruel to my drives  :)
[20:50] <Num83rGuy> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the startup line. The linked article was of little help though.
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> sarsaeol: you'd be suprised what people do, then get issues and act all confused
[20:50] <fe80> Jonny1, i think that would be best. MonkyDust has the right idea in suggesting oem-config. but it would be best to have a clean install for your customer
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> Num83rGuy: hopefully the command will fly :)
[20:51] <Jonny1> fe80: Yes and to be honest there are a few broken packages as things keep crashing
[20:52] <sarsaeol> ActionParsnip: mabe i will just try these kernel uupdates i have slated... seems like mutiple things relating to USB do not work
[20:52] <sarsaeol> i.e USb 3
[20:52] <goddard> ghostchick: that app is pretty nice i think it will work well thanks
[20:53] <sarsaeol> anyone heard of USB3 issues with 3.2.0-25-generic ?
[20:53] <ghostchick> goddard,  nice nickname  btw, but yes basket is rather cool , a shame it does not handle wikilinks as well as tomboy/gnote(or that they are not more developed)
[20:54] <fe80> sarsaeol, i have had no issues with usb3, have you checked 'mount' to see how your drives were mounted?
[20:55]  * sarsaeol runs man mount
[20:56] <sarsaeol> fe80 is there somethi8ng liek a verbose flag i should be looking for?
[20:56] <guntbert> sarsaeol: just type   mount
[20:57] <fe80> sarsaeol, mount -l or just mount
[20:59] <sarsaeol> weird... mount says rw
[20:59] <fe80> sarsaeol, does it show a mode?
[21:00] <sarsaeol> re,nosuid,uhelper=udisks)
[21:00] <sarsaeol> nodev
[21:01] <ceti331> is it possible to make gnome shell trigger  on background mouse clicks,
[21:01] <ceti331> q2 is it possible to use global menu in gnome shell
[21:01] <ceti331> q3 is it possible to make the 'expose' view in gnome shell bigger windows (less spacing beetween them)
[21:02] <sarsaeol> fe80: i thnik dmesg even says it shoudl write: [sdc] Write Protect is off
[21:03] <fe80> what options are active on the one that is working?
[21:03] <fe80> sarsaeol, what options are active on the one that is working?
[21:03] <sarsaeol> fe80: uno moment\
[21:04] <ghostchick> ceti331,  most of your questions lead to modifying the gnome-shell by extensions , so most of them would be possible
[21:06] <harrrismrubin> can i add ubuntu to my android tablet without rooting
[21:06] <harrrismrubin> i am afraid i will brick if i root
[21:06] <ceti331> out of the box i much prefer ubuntu unity
[21:06] <ceti331> but with those tweaks gnome shell would be better
[21:07] <sarsaeol> fe80:  the output of mount for each disk is identical
[21:08] <fe80> sarsaeol, are you getting an error when attempting to write to the device?
[21:08] <sarsaeol> except for dev assignment and partition name of course
[21:08] <sarsaeol> permission denied
[21:09] <harrrismrubin> can i add ubuntu to my8 android tablet without rooting
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> ceti331: wihout much tweaking, lubuntu is pretty sweet
[21:09] <harrrismrubin> what is lubuntu
[21:10] <sarsaeol> harris: ubuntu lite
[21:10] <fe80> harrrismrubin, it is an ubuntu spin which uses lxde
[21:10] <fe80> harrrismrubin, very lightweight
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: ubuntu with LXDE by default insteaad of gnome and Unity
[21:11] <harrrismrubin> what is ubuntu lite
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: ^
[21:11] <harrrismrubin> ok
[21:11] <fe80> sarsaeol, can you view the permissions for the drive?
[21:11] <harrrismrubin> sarsaeol,  what is ubuntu lite
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: lubuntu uses significant;y fewer resources, its good for low end systems or people wanting a responsive OS
[21:12] <harrrismrubin> is it the same thing
[21:12] <fe80> sarsaeol, has this drive ever worked with linux before?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: its fully supported by the ubuntu community
[21:12] <sarsaeol> harrrismrubin: i ind of made that up... listen to fe80 or ActionParsnip... lubuntu IS pretty lightweight tho
[21:12] <fe80> harrrismrubin, he meant ubuntu lite as in very light resources.
[21:12] <harrrismrubin> lubuntu for android
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: check some screenshots online or youtube :)
[21:13] <harrrismrubin> ok cool i want ubuntu on my tablet
[21:13] <harrrismrubin> but i dont want to root
[21:13] <sarsaeol> fe80: no i have not seen it work with any linux yet... let me try on my 10.04 box
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: ubuntu disables root by default
[21:14] <mackenzie> hey all, i'm having a problem getting the liveCD to work with my hardware
[21:14] <fe80> sarsaeol, ok it may have some windows specific permissions set on it that would prevent you from writeing to it
[21:14] <harrrismrubin> so i have to root to get ubuntu
[21:14] <bekks> harrrismrubin: Yes.
[21:14] <sarsaeol> fe80: i formetted it with gparted tho
[21:14] <sarsaeol> and hfs is mac
[21:14] <harrrismrubin> why
[21:14] <mackenzie> when i boot, my display stops working... and its unresponsive.  do you have any ideas why that might be?
[21:14] <bekks> harrrismrubin: Because you cant install anything else than Android otherwise.
[21:15] <sarsaeol> fe80:  but let me still check my 10.04 box... its pretty reliable
[21:15] <harrrismrubin> what do you get out of having ubuntu on tablet
[21:15] <fe80> harrrismrubin, im not sure if you would have to root your android to install ubuntu.
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> bekks: you can, users can use the marketplace and install apps
[21:16] <bekks> ActionParsnip: Ah, ok.
[21:16] <fe80> sarsaeol, oh i did not realize you had used gparted. and i have never owned a mac :)
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: you dont need to root your device to install normal apps in android
[21:17] <fe80> harrrismrubin, to install ubuntu onto your android device you will actually be running ubuntu in a seperate app then using a vnc client to connect to the running vnc server in ubuntu.
[21:18] <harrrismrubin> what english please
[21:18] <sarsaeol> sigh... drive has same issue on 10.054
[21:18] <harrrismrubin> how do i install ubuntu
[21:18] <sarsaeol> 10.04*
[21:18] <harrrismrubin> on my tablet
[21:18] <sarsaeol> harrrismrubin: he is saying ubuntu needs to be3 run as an app
[21:19] <harrrismrubin> no9t as an os
[21:19] <fe80> harrrismrubin, http://www.redmondpie.com/install-and-run-ubuntu-on-your-android-device-with-ubuntu-installer-download-now/
[21:19] <OerHeks> harris, not without 'root'
[21:19] <fe80> sarsaoel, try reformatting it with gparted
[21:20] <sarsaeol> fe80: well okay but that will be like the 3rd time
[21:20] <sarsaeol> fe80: gonna reboot to get these updates in
[21:20] <sarsaeol> brb
[21:21] <harrrismrubin> is it easy to root
[21:21] <Eagleman7> --dport auth which port is auth?
[21:21] <Eagleman7> or what is auth?
[21:21] <knoppix123> anybody knows about knoppix plz
[21:21] <OerHeks> harrrismrubin ask in #android
[21:21] <fe80> harrrismrubin, everything i have rooted i have been able to do very easy usually with a one-click program.
[21:22] <ikonia> knoppix123: try the #knoppix channel
[21:22] <harrrismrubin> i caqnt join #android
[21:22] <ikonia> harrrismrubin: the guys in #freenode will help you register
[21:22] <fe80> harrrismrubin, register your nick
[21:22] <fe80> !nick | harrrismrubin
[21:22] <knoppix123> how to get there i'm new to this things sir any help
[21:22] <ikonia> knoppix123: /join #knoppix
[21:22] <Eagleman7> --dport auth which port is auth?
[21:23] <HelloWorld321> What's a good way to manage uid/gid for a Win7 NFS client?  Is there a service like LDAP or something that the ubuntu nfs host can run?
[21:23] <knoppix123> ok thanks i guess i got it
[21:23] <harrrismrubin> is it worth it to have ubuntu on tablet
[21:24] <Eagleman7> --dport auth what is auth?
[21:24] <linux_is_my_hero> so here's a reason why we're all in this chatroom on ubuntu and not the windows chatroom on windows
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: if you want. depends on need
[21:24] <linux_is_my_hero> "I was dual-booting Windows 7 and XP (each on their own HDD).  On Windows 7 I visited a website with some java exploit which very quickly broke my installation and made Windows 7 unbootable.  I deleted the partition and now I am just using XP but when it starts Avast detects a rootkit on the Windows 7 hard drive, which leads me to believe the rootkit is somehow embedded in the bootloader.  Is..."
[21:24] <HelloWorld321> it's always worth it to have ubuntu: unless you're playing a game that isn't supported on ubuntu
[21:24] <harrrismrubin> i want to be able to put my music on my tablet from ubuntu
[21:25] <linux_is_my_hero> helloworld321: isn't that what consoles are for?  my computer doesn't have a 1200w 7.1 hd sound system, or a 120hz 55" LED screen
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: i'd ask in ##windows
[21:25] <HelloWorld321> harrismrubin: no problem.  Install ubuntu as normal, and look up any "10 things to do after installing ubuntu" and most of them will reference at least one media package.
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: you can transfer data to and from the tablet using ubuntu
[21:26] <alankila> Eagleman7: auth is an old service that external processed could use to ask which uid owns particular socket
[21:26] <catmistake> only safe place to run Windows is in a vm
[21:26] <fe80> harrrismrubin, i honestly dont see much of a point in running ubuntu on your android tablet unless you have a specific use to do so.
[21:27] <alankila> Eagleman7: they send a query like 'the connection with local port x and remote port y, which uid created it' and the auth service would say 'oh that is user account abcdefgh'
[21:27] <harrrismrubin> why do other people install it
[21:27] <HelloWorld321> linux_is_my_hero: yes, that's absolutely what consoles are for.  I have no idea why certain PC games don't have a console port, but perhaps we digress.
[21:27] <fe80> harrrismrubin, mostly for the nerd factor of "Hey i have ubuntu running on my android"
[21:27] <linux_is_my_hero> helloworld: but my PS3 does! go mancave.
[21:28] <ska> Is there a debugging kernel I can install to debug hardware problems?
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: cos they can, or to challenge themselves. many other reasons exist
[21:28] <harrrismrubin> my tablet is not compatible with ubuntu so i cant add music to my tab from ubuntu pc right now
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: sure you can
[21:29] <harrrismrubin> if i root and download app will i be able to
[21:29] <linux_is_my_hero> barrrismrubin: what about google music?  it has an upload/sync app for apple, windows, and ubuntu.  and you can get to it from any web-enabled device, and iOS and android have their own apps and the interface is amazing
[21:29] <fe80> harrrismrubin, if all you want to do is have your music from you computer on your tablet you can just copy them over through your usb cable
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: if you run an sftp server on your system you can connect to it with andftp
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: or you can send data over bluetooth
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: andsmb can access samba shares over wifi
[21:30] <harrrismrubin> my pc doesnt have bluetooth when i plug in usb cable i get error message
[21:30] <alankila> me also notes that android app writers can use jcifs to access samba shares
[21:30] <HelloWorld321> can he use myth or xbms to serve media to his win tablet?
[21:30] <alankila> eh, missing /
[21:30] <nibohr> I installed windows 8, but now after running grub-install /dev/sda my computer still keeps booting windows, can someone help?
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-easily-mount-the-galaxy-nexus-on-ubuntu-11-10-via-unity
[21:30] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: i was making fun of windows for being overly complex and stupid
[21:31] <alankila> nibohr: you have multiple harddisks? does bios boot that harddrive, preferentially?
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> nibohr: if you run:  sudo update-grub   do you see the boot?
[21:31] <harrrismrubin> i have galaxy tab 2 10.1 ActionParsnip
[21:31] <ska> I get "[Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged" but there is nothing to check..
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: it may still apply
[21:31] <ska> that is in kern.log
[21:31] <nibohr> alankila: yes I have 2 disks, it boots the ssd, where windows and my old ubuntu installation is on
[21:31] <creature> nibohr: Hopefully you won't need to use it, but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair might come in handy.
[21:31] <bekks> ska: Did you check with mcelog ?
[21:31] <nibohr> ActionParsnip: it finds all my operating systems, but it still starts only windows
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: sharing a folder will be a super easy way, you can install openssh-server and conenct over sftp
[21:32] <alankila> nibohr: and sda is the one with windows?
[21:32] <HelloWorld321> Is there an authentication service that the ubuntu nfs host can run, to map uid/gid to a Win7 NFS client?
[21:32] <ska> bekks: no, where is it?
[21:33] <harrrismrubin> what is sftp
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: secure ftp
[21:33] <harrrismrubin> do i install that in ubuntu or android
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[21:34] <sunshinehappy> hi
[21:34] <harrrismrubin> is there a point to having ubuntu on tablet
[21:34] <myersg> can anyone help me get the networking to work on my ubuntu netbook?
[21:34] <sunshinehappy> how do I get the best set up for graphics card drivers?
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: you wil get an sftp server by default, you can then install andftp and connect to the sftp server. You will then be able to transfer data to and from the system using wifi
[21:34] <rynkan> im installing ubuntu as a server and im currently at "enter your hostname"-screen, its set default to localhost.localdomain. I want to name the server mercury and got a domain semsei.com should i type in mercury.semsei.com?
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> myersg: what network technology do you use?
[21:35] <Eagleman7> Would this work ( the port range ) iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 21 -j ACCEPT?
[21:35] <HelloWorld321> rynkan: I'm no expert, but that sounds pretty darn applicable.
[21:35] <alankila> rynkan: probably yes. You can fix things up later though, for instance the hostname in /etc/hostname, the domain might make it elsewhere like resolv.conf
[21:35] <harrrismrubin> ActionParsnip,  i am installing sudo apt-get install openssh-server now what
[21:35] <ceed^> I have this white line under the skype icon in the notification area. What's up with that?
[21:35] <alankila> rynkan: also /etc/hosts gets generated according to what you type in now
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: install andftp on the tablet, liike I alrady stated... If you scroll up and reread, you'll see it
[21:36] <myersg> I don't know..I just connect to my router, but nothing is showing up in the uper panle bar, and I go to edit connections and type in my networking info there, it still doesn't connect
[21:36] <Eagleman7> Would this work ( the port range ) iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 21 -j ACCEPT?
[21:36] <harrrismrubin> ActionParsnip,  on ubuntu when i ran the code it came this sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[21:36] <rynkan> as I understand it localhost.localdomain is the default FQDN, so, would it be best to leave it there and then change the hostname later?
[21:36] <harrrismrubin> no this Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: yes, that install the ssh server which also gives an sftp service...
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: then your packages are not consistent
[21:37] <HelloWorld321> harrrismrubin: type that "sudo ... install"  command into the terminal
[21:37] <harrrismrubin> what HelloComputer15
[21:37] <myersg> do I need to install a driver or somthing?
[21:37] <fe80> harrrismrubin to a sudo apt-get update first
[21:39] <kristenB> How does openvpn work? It provides a layer 3 (IP) interface but works as an application (layer 7) ? That does not seem very efficient...
[21:39] <Eagleman7> Would this work ( the port range ) iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 3390-3395 -j ACCEPT
[21:39] <myersg> can anyone help??
[21:39] <harrrismrubin> i did  sudo apt-get update and the i redid the code same error
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> myersg: do you use wired or wireless?
[21:40] <myersg> wireless, when I use the wired it works..its just the wireless not working
[21:40] <lui_> hola gente!..
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> myersg: then that is the technology
[21:40] <myersg> I cant use the wireless right now...because its not connecting
[21:40] <myersg> or showing any
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> myersg: run:  sudo lshw -C network     what is the product line for the wireless interface
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> myersg: I suggest you also use a wired connection and get fully updated
[21:41] <HelloWorld321> !es lui_
[21:41] <HelloWorld321> !es
[21:41] <myersg> pci (sysfs)
[21:42] <myersg> a ton of stuff just poped up..
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> myersg: yes, read it, what is the wireless chip you are using
[21:42] <rymate1234> woo!
[21:42] <rymate1234> native notifications for skype :D
[21:44] <myersg> bcm4313 broadcam
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | myersg
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> myersg: those are the easiest to setup. Use a wired conection for  maximum easiness
[21:44] <harrrismrubin> ActionParsnip,  can i download it without terminal'
[21:45] <myersg> ok
[21:45] <myersg> I never had to set it up though....
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: you can use software centre, its the same difference
[21:45] <harrrismrubin> what do i type3 in
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> myersg: well you do now....
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: search dash for software centre
[21:46] <harrrismrubin> what do i search in the software center
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: run software centre, then you can find the app you need
[21:47] <harrrismrubin> what app
[21:47] <fe80> harrrismrubin, openssh-server
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: openssh-server    wasn't that massively obvious....?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: are you being serious?
[21:48] <kristenB> How does openvpn work? It provides a layer 3 (IP) interface but works as an application (layer 7) ? That does not seem very efficient...
[21:48] <harrrismrubin> im joking
[21:48] <harrrismrubin> there is one outcome in the software center
[21:49] <harrrismrubin> and it says installed
[21:49] <biggi_mat> Congratulations!
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: ive got better things to do than pander to so called 'jokes' this is support
[21:49] <harrrismrubin> sorry
[21:49] <ska> I installed the linux-crashdump package
[21:49] <bekks> ska: Did you run mcelog yet?
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: ok you can now connect from android using andftp and transfer data over wifi
[21:50] <Priyantha> hi hi :)
[21:50] <Priyantha> hi ActionParsnip ! :)
[21:50] <harrrismrubin> i want the data from ubuntu to tab
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> Priyantha: howdy
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: yes, thats what the pap is for
[21:50] <Priyantha> I am a happy bunny again ;)
[21:51] <harrrismrubin> can i paste in a image of what comes up in the software center because i dont think it is what you are talking about
[21:51] <HelloWorld321> I'm mounting an NFS export on a Win7 NFS client, and no matter what I do, my UID is -2 and my GID is -2.  How do I get better than anonymous access to the NFS exports?
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: as long as openssh-server is installed it's fine
[21:51] <ska> bekks: not yet.. I don't know all the options yet.
[21:51] <ska> bekks: mcelog: warning: 16 bytes ignored in each record
[21:51] <ska> mcelog: consider an update
[21:52] <harrrismrubin> no what comes up is secure shell (ssh server
[21:52] <harrrismrubin> is that is
[21:53] <fe80> harrrismrubin, yes thats it
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: yes
[21:53] <myersg> when I tried to install it useing the additional drivers, it says:
[21:53] <harrrismrubin> when i search in the dash it doesnt come up
[21:53] <myersg> sorry, installation of theis driver faild.
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> myersg: are you connected to a wired connection?
[21:53] <bekks> ska: mcelog --ascii --file /path/to/mcelog
[21:53] <myersg> please have a look at the log file for details:/va/log/jockey.log
[21:53] <fe80> harrrismrubin, it won't it is not a graphical program
[21:53] <myersg> yes
[21:54] <harrrismrubin> then how do i open it
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> myersg: ok, run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     get fully updated, reboot then retry
[21:54] <ska> bekks: nothing in mcelog yet
[21:54] <Eagleman7> Why isnt this working?         0     0 DROP       all  --  eth0.10 any     anywhere             anywhere
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: its a service, its already running. There is nothing to 'open'
[21:54] <harrrismrubin> then what do i do now
[21:54] <Eagleman7> It is not blocking anything
[21:55] <fe80> harrrismrubin, install andftp on your tablet
[21:55] <harrrismrubin> i did
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: install andftp and connect to the system over wifi on port 22 using SFTP
[21:55] <ska> bekks: I have the linux-crashdump.. I hope to find more clues..
[21:55] <HelloWorld321> I made a directory with ugo+rw, and now my anonymous access gets me where I'm going, but it looks like I'll need to set up Samba to get something that my Users will find workable.
[21:55] <harrrismrubin> when i open the app on the tablet it says select your ftb server
[21:56] <myersg> there was nothing to update
[21:56] <myersg> rebooting now
[21:57] <fe80> harrrismrubin, type in your ubuntu's ip address
[21:57] <jerknextdoor> Whenever I use root nautilus or root gedit the theme is wrong.  it looks like stock gnome.  Everything is function, but it's rather annoying.  12.04 64bit
[21:57] <harrrismrubin> what?
[21:57] <harrrismrubin> first thing is host name
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: yes, thats the name of the ubuntu system#
[21:57] <harrrismrubin> so my username or the pcs name
[21:58] <fe80> harrrismrubin, host name == ip address or name of your ubuntu system
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: the computer name
[21:58] <harrrismrubin> how do i find that
[21:58] <fe80> on ubuntu type ifconfig eth0
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: you can run:  hostname   in Ubuntu, you set it when you installed the OS
[21:59] <myersg> its still giveing me the same erro
[21:59] <kristenB> it is often said that ubuntu requires less rebooting than windows when it is updated. What justifies this internally ?
[21:59] <litropy> Just looking ofr a bit of input: I have an iMac running Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T7700  @ 2.40GHz. I imagine, but I want to make sure here, that I should go with the PC (Intel x86) desktop CD, and not 64-bit Mac (AMD64) desktop CD, correct? cat /proc/cpuinfo: http://pastebin.com/Wj2JawUC
[21:59] <HelloWorld321> kristenB: most service can be restarted with the command "sudo service <name> restart"
[21:59] <kristenB> HelloWorld321: and that's not the case in windows?
[22:00] <ska> What do I do with linux-crashdump upon a crash?
[22:00] <myersg> what should I do now?
[22:00] <litropy> I'm referring to the 12.10 download page, but it was suggested in +1 that I could get CPU arch support here as well.http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/quantal/alpha-2/
[22:00] <myersg> Should I reinstall ubuntu?
[22:00] <ska> Sometimes the system just reboots immediately.
[22:00] <kristenB> HelloWorld321: i think the command 'netstop' in windows does just that
[22:00] <fe80> kristenB, linux is build on the idea of modules that can be restarted when needed. windows for the most part does not allow most important fiels to be changed while the operating system is running so it does that when it is booting
[22:01] <kristenB> and yet sometimes even ubuntu asks for rebooting. Why is that ?
[22:02] <ghostchick> kristenB,  it is because ubuntu is lets say "dumbed down"
[22:02] <Priyantha> for example kernel updates kristenB
[22:02] <ghostchick> so favor updates it warn you
[22:02] <ghostchick> for mayor
[22:02] <fe80> kristenB, when it updates to a new kernel the system needs restarted to be able to boot that new kernel
[22:03] <myersg> is it good to host my own website?
[22:03] <Priyantha> but even for kernel updates you don't need to power down and power up your system, but Ubuntu does that default
[22:03] <harrrismrubin> the username and password is what i use to sign in right
[22:03] <ska> can I monitor /var/log/kern.log to see hardware errors? or is there a better log?
[22:03] <kristenB> can 'sudo apt-get upgrade' update the kernel ?
[22:03] <fe80> kristenB, yes
[22:03] <Priyantha> in Debian it just closes everything and restarts the kernel :)
[22:04] <kristenB> so basically I've upgraded the kernel without even knowing it. That seems dangerous
[22:04] <trism> kristenB: in general you will need to: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; since upgrading the kernel installs new packages
[22:04] <Baios> hello,can i ask a rather noobie question plz?
[22:04] <rynkan> http://web2.0calc.com/ <3
[22:04] <ghostchick> ska,  dmesg
[22:04] <fe80> Baios, thats what this channel is for :)
[22:05] <kristenB> okay thanks. I have a completely new question regarding unity.
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: yes, thats your ubuntu username and pass
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> myersg: it can be :)
[22:05] <bekks> ska: the mcelog
[22:05] <ska> ghostchick: should I monitor /var/log/dmesg ?
[22:05] <rynkan> how big should you make /tmp?
[22:05] <harrrismrubin> ok i finished and pressed save then connect
[22:05] <ghostchick> Priyantha,  how you can update the kernel without rebooting , now i m interested ; ) , well i know about  the program for installing kernel updates without rebooting but
[22:05] <fe80> harrrismrubin, open a terminal and type hostname
[22:05] <Priyantha> kexec ghostchick :)
[22:05] <Baios> thanks fe80. i ve installed ubuntu at work with wubi. i want to join the servers domain but cant see something obvious in the network card settings.any advice?
[22:05] <Priyantha> is the magic word :D
[22:06] <Priyantha> ghostchick: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RapidReboot
[22:06] <ska> rynkan: as big as you need for any temp files.
[22:06] <harrrismrubin> it says FTP file browser - click  to select file it is all blank
[22:07] <ghostchick> Priyantha,  thanks very much
[22:07] <ska> rynkan: usually I make mine at least as bit as memory.. But not smaller than 2GB..
[22:07] <Priyantha> no problem ghostchick :)
[22:07] <ska> rynkan: sometimes 10-20GB
[22:07] <Guest67336> hey
[22:07] <Priyantha> I am using it on my Debian system curently
[22:07] <Priyantha> replaced yesterday the Ubuntu install with Debian ;)
[22:07] <kristenB> I have downloaded an application that is not installed by apt-get. I would like to add it to the left panel. I have put the executable in /opt/ and added a link in /usr/bin and I have modified  /usr/share/applications. Now the icon appears and the programs launches. BUT there is no arrow saying the number of instances. When the program's window is not active, clicking on the icon of the left panel should bring it to the front, but o
[22:07] <Guest67336> im new in this
[22:08] <fe80> Baios, so in other words you are trying to see a file server's shares?
[22:08] <Guest67336> what is this about
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: you want sftp
[22:08] <ska> ghostchick: /var/log/dmesg doesn't seem to get it all.
[22:08] <rynkan> ska: put mine at 5gb
[22:09] <ska> rynkan: thats probably ok.. bigger is better..
[22:09] <Studious> kristen8: are you running a terminal based app or gui app?
[22:10] <Baios> fe80 : in someway i ve already done that....linux magic? :p
[22:10] <Baios> is there any need to put the domain server like in windows or not?
[22:10] <harrrismrubin> i selected sftp it still says ftp though
[22:10] <fe80> Baios, im confused on what you mean by domain server. do you mean dns?
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: is there an option for sshfs
[22:13] <harrrismrubin> no
[22:14] <fe80> Baios, if you can see shared computers and can access the internet then i would say you are good with your nic configuration unless you need something specific to your work environment
[22:14] <harrrismrubin> ActionParsnip,  no
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=lysesoft.andftp&hl=en    under tthe types drop down, what do you have?
[22:15] <harrrismrubin> what do you mean types
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: in the conection, there is a drop down with connection types listed
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: under hostname, the 2nd option?
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: you are looking at your tablet, right?
[22:17] <harrrismrubin> ftp, sftp, ftps, ftps, scp
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: then select SFTP
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: like i said earlier...abnout connexcting to sftp....
[22:17] <harrrismrubin> i did before
[22:18] <kristenB> can someone help me with my unity problem please ?
[22:18] <harrrismrubin> how do i send the file to my tab
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: you can always use the IP of the system if the hostname fails
[22:18] <Studious> kristenB: how can I help you
[22:18] <harrrismrubin> what?
[22:19] <kristenB> Studious: I have downloaded an application that is not installed by apt-get. I would like to add it to the left panel. I have put the executable in /opt/ and added a link in /usr/bin and I have modified  /usr/share/applications. Now the icon appears and the programs launches. BUT there is no arrow saying the number of instances. When the program's window is not active, clicking on the icon of the left panel should bring it to the fr
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: why do you keep asking that when I / we already know your issue? What does re-asking achieve
[22:19] <kristenB> instead*
[22:19] <harrrismrubin> the ftp is the name of the app
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: yes but it can connect to sftp
[22:19] <harrrismrubin> the ftp file browser means what files have been sent to it
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: again, what does re-asking do?
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: no, zero data has been transferred
[22:20] <harrrismrubin> that is why it is blank
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: why re-ask though?
[22:20] <harrrismrubin> i have to be told twice to understand
[22:21] <harrrismrubin> and you were confusing me
[22:21] <harrrismrubin> so how do i send a file to test if my theory is correct
[22:21] <sarsaeol> fe80 for some reason this disk and hfs+ will not play nice... tried new enclosure and can write when it is ntfs but not when it is hfs+
[22:21] <kristenB> Studious: so any idea what's wrong ?
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: oh jeez it's gonna be a long night, why not justread it twice
[22:22] <HelloWorld321> well speaking of NFS mounts (yes, I was) and rebooting windows, my registry changes took effect when I rebooted the windows client, and now I have successfully forced my uid/gid on my nfs partitions to something besides -2.
[22:22] <harrrismrubin> ok
[22:23] <harrrismrubin> again how do i send it
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: you want sftp, you then type the IP as the host and useyour user credentials to connect and select port 22
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: (2nd time so you understand) you want sftp, you then type the IP as the host and useyour user credentials to connect and select port 22
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: until you get actually connected, nothing else matters
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: is the tablet connected to the Ubuntu system now?
[22:24] <harrrismrubin> no
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: then why is the transfer method impoortant if you aren't even connected?
[22:25] <harrrismrubin> it is freezing though
[22:25] <HelloWorld321> Is there a better way to map UID/GID from a Win7 client than setting a constant in the registry?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: why do you need to know how to transfer data if the app isn't connected to the server?
[22:26] <iceroot> HelloWorld321: ldap
[22:26] <iceroot> HelloWorld321: or a complete windows domain with samba3/4 and ldap
[22:26] <harrrismrubin> this isnt working so ill just root and use the ubuntu app
[22:26] <HelloWorld321> tx, iceroot
[22:27] <fe80> sarsaoel, thats wierd. unfortunantly i know nothing about the hfs+ filesystem
[22:27] <harrrismrubin> are there different types of root
[22:27] <Thete> What do you guys think of Cherokee?
[22:27] <Studious> kristenB: can you give a screenshot
[22:27] <Thete> Better than Apache?
[22:28] <sarsaeol> fe80: def weird... i think ill just hack ntfs support onto my mac... oh well thanks for the help!
[22:28] <kristenB> Studious: there's no much to screenshot, it's more of a behaviour than a state. I could do a video but that would take quite long
[22:28] <harrrismrubin> is it easy to root android
[22:28] <fe80> harrrismrubin, goto #android to ask about rooting your android
[22:28] <harrrismrubin> idk how to register
[22:28] <fe80> sarsaeol, hey no problem sorry i could not be more help
[22:29] <wylde> harrrismrubin: go ask in #freenode
[22:29] <kristenB> Studious: the problem is simple. When I click on the icon on the left panel, I would have expected the application to be brought to the front, but instead a new instance of that application is opened.
[22:29] <HelloWorld321> iceroot: I'll google samba & ldap, is there any particular subset that I should examine or any additional modules I'll need?
[22:29] <fe80> !register | harrrismrubin
[22:31] <Thete> Anyone have any particular preference for running a web server on Ubuntu 12.04?  LAMP/LEMP?
[22:31] <HelloWorld321> iceroot: can I do all of that in Ubuntu, or will I need something from microsoft to admin my new windows samba/ldap domain?
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: root is root
[22:31] <cheese1756> Thete: I like LLMP
[22:31] <cheese1756> (lighttpd)
[22:32] <Studious> kristenB: so it launches a new instance of the application instead of bringing up the existing PID to front
[22:32] <kristenB> Studious: yes
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> Thete: apache2 is the minimum, if you need mysql and php then you can install lamp but the bare minimum for web is apache2
[22:32] <Thete> cheese1756: Will it do name based VH with SSL?
[22:32] <Studious> check the shortcut link, is it set to "appname &"  ??
[22:32] <Studious> if so, remove the "&"
[22:32] <cheese1756> Thete: I have used virtual hosts with it, and SSL
[22:32] <cheese1756> So I believe so
[22:32] <kristenB> Studious: no it's not &
[22:33] <Thete> ActionParsnip: Been using Apache for years, wondering if Nginx or Cherokee , or lighttpd is better
[22:35] <kristenB> the software I'm trying to get to the panel is 'eclipse'. The file I created in /usr/share/applications/ contains a line /opt/eclipse/eclipse, so it should just open the 'eclipse' executable when I click on the icon, and if already opened, bring it to the front (like all other icons). But instead, it creates a new instance regardless of whether it's already opened or not.
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> Thete: try it, see what happens :)
[22:36] <Studious> kristenB: see if you can create a new shortcut link using terminal. example: ln -sf /usr/bin/appname /usr/share/applications/appname
[22:36] <kristenB> What does the -f mean ?
[22:36] <glitsj16> kristenB: Studious: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/03/unity-with-minimize-on-click-patch.html might be what kristenB is expecting, the more traditional minimize/unminimize-on-click .. which was officially rejected .. but available via PPA
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> kristenB: depends on teh scope
[22:37] <kristenB> glitsj16: I don't think so. What I'm expecting is not a new behaviour. I'm just expecting the same behaviour as the one I'm getting for all my other icons.
[22:39] <glitsj16> kristenB: my apologies for dropping in, to both
[22:40] <kristenB> All my other icons behave this way. I have unity 3D. If I click on a icon of a program that is already running but whose window is not in the foreground, its window is brought to the front. However, with the new icon I added, a new instance of the software is created everytime, whether a previous instance is already running or not (such a behaviour would only occur with middle click for other icons)
[22:40] <kristenB> glitsj16: on the contrary, please.
[22:40] <kristenB> glitsj16: I'm quite lost, I don't know what's wrong. Any help is appreciated
[22:42] <glitsj16> kristenB: yes i don't understand why unity would make a difference between 'official' launchers and user-generated ones
[22:42] <glitsj16> you seem to have put all relevant pieces of the puzzle in place
[22:45] <bz> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'precise-security/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> kristenB: as long as there is a correctly formed desktop file in /usr/share/applications   it will be used by Dash etc
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> bz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1070235/
[22:47] <Newfie> anyone know anything about grub.. i recently installed ubuntu 12.04 and now when i try to boot into windows 7 i get invalid efi file path
[22:47] <RichTea> hi all, i have been trying to make a usb start disk from the latest 12.04 cd, when i boot from the usb stick it keeps asking for the cdrom!
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> Newfie: try running:  sudo update-grub
[22:48] <RichTea> any idea why? or how to fix it?
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> RichTea: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[22:48] <Newfie> i have tried it ActionParsnip  and still nothing ive even used the boot repair app and that didnt fix it
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> RichTea: you don't need to make a CD from the ISO to then make a bootable USB, you can use Unetbootin on the ISO direct
[22:49] <RichTea> ActionParsnip: i burned it to a cd and booted it
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> RichTea: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[22:50] <RichTea> i also tried unetbootin from the live cd but it wont start
[22:50]  * RichTea has been having _fun_
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> RichTea: one last time. Did you or did you not MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[22:50] <RichTea> no i did not
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> RichTea: why did I have to ask 3 times?
[22:51] <RichTea> becouse i was avoiding that question whils i was plugging that hdd in to this laptop to test ;)
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | RichTea
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> RichTea: without MD5 testing you have no way of knowing the data you are using is complete and consistant
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> RichTea: instead of wasting time, just answer the question, then do what you need to do on your side
[22:54] <Adminkid> I been trying to send text message on my computer but I dont know what the right software or internet website I can use to send them. Does anyone know the best SMS Text Messager software or something
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> Adminkid: there is no single best solution for anything...
[22:56] <piglit> i am thinking of buying a nas from synology a 112 is there some way to use cloud with that synology and ubuntu?
[22:58] <Mikato> hi, i cant install parallels driver in ubuntu in parallels it says... permission is denied
[22:58] <Mikato> ./installer
[22:58] <IdleOne> Adminkid: This is off topic for this channel but gmail lets you SMS
[22:58] <wylde> !sudo | Mikato
[22:59] <RichTea> arr there we go yes the  hases match
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> Mikato: sudo ./installer
[23:00] <mcamaret> Adminkid: there is a google voice client that integrates into the messaging menu.
[23:00] <aaas> Adminkid id say google voice is the best, but you might need to say your requirements to determine the best
[23:01] <mcamaret> aaas: google voice isn't native, so using a client is best.
[23:01] <aaas> mcamaret maybe, depends on what his requirements are
[23:02] <RichTea> so ActionParsnip why might the usb starter be trying to load the cd?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> RichTea: are you wanting to run ubuntu off the USB device?
[23:03] <RichTea> yes in "live boot mode"
[23:04] <mcamaret> Adminkid: mightytext.net works with an android phone, but is a web app, not native
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> RichTea: and you say using unetbootin makes no difference?
[23:04] <caballero> block ports 1-65540 using latest compiled iptables download latest rnd-tools and using python to create a auto port opener using uptables that closes once the socket has null data.
[23:04] <Athleek123> Hello, if I am using wubi to install ubuntu 12.04, do i need to bring ndiswrapper over on a flash drive, or is it preinstalled?
[23:04] <mcamaret> if it uses chrome's notifications you can use chromify odd you can route it to notify-osd.
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: are you sure you need ndiswrapper?
[23:04] <RichTea> well i dlonloaded unetbootin and ran it from the live cd but it just does nothing
[23:05] <RichTea> eg i execute it and it just closes right away
[23:05] <Athleek123> ActionParsnip I am fairly sure, my wireless card was not compatible with 11.04
[23:05] <RichTea> i tried addeing unetbootin from the repo too
[23:06] <RichTea> but that version is old and only has 11.4 not 12.4
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: Natty is EOL in October, I wouldn't bother with it
[23:06] <caballero> unetbootin has a better bootloader than the native ubuntu one
[23:06] <RichTea> had to add the net repo to install 7z too ;)
[23:06] <Athleek123> actionparsnip ok, I doubt they added compatibility though
[23:06] <mcamaret> RichTea: 11.04 and 12.04, zero is important.
[23:06] <caballero> 793 694 895 udp close
[23:07] <caballero> 463
[23:07] <caballero> evolution mail port hidden close that
[23:07] <RichTea> sorry yes thats right!
[23:08] <caballero> bolehvpn is 4096 strength openvpn
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> RichTea: 7zip is in the repos already
[23:08] <caballero> 791/udp
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> RichTea: you could boot to the CD and install the OS to the USb as if it were a true HDD, or you could resize the NTFS in Windows (If you use Win7) and install to the free space using the CD
[23:09] <caballero> don't use gufw use ufw
[23:10] <caballero> better yet compiled iptables on all ubuntu's latest release
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> caballero: why not gufw?
[23:10] <caballero> rnd-tools
[23:10] <RichTea> id love to install to the hdd, damed thing is encrypted.
[23:11] <RichTea> i was just wanted the usb live image on CD, didnt think it would be that dificult!
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> !away > dark3n|off
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> RichTea: try the 1-2-3 installer from pendrive linux, may help
[23:12] <RichTea> isnt that windows only?
[23:12] <caballero> googleplex is the last thing to check on lophtcrack all your username passwords go to ubuntu
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> RichTea: yeah, may work though
[23:12] <RichTea> the only windows i have has stupid pgp disk tool that will not let me access a usb drive directly
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> caballero: not googleplexplexplexplex ?
[23:13] <caballero> 02 is russian lopthcrack last to check
[23:13] <RichTea> yes i is stupid
[23:13] <caballero> i are dumb also because i am too
[23:14] <caballero> always use you first name for home directory.
[23:14] <Athleek123> ActionParsnip my wireless card is Netgear WG311 v3 (Marvell 88w8335 Libertas)
[23:15] <quidnunc> Is there a way to launch "Settings -> Preferences -> Settings Manager -> Session and Startup" without having access to the menu?
[23:15] <caballero> there is a $2000 router made by cisco that is a firewall that will open and close ports automatically
[23:16] <quidnunc> (menu bar)
[23:16] <caballero> its faster than gigabit
[23:16] <Athleek123> ActionParsnip where could I check for compatibility
[23:16] <alkisg> Athleek123: if your pci id is 11ab:1faa, then: grep 1faa /lib/modules/3.2.0-26-generic-pae/* ==> <nothing>, i.e. no drivers listed for it
[23:17] <Athleek123> alkisg i havent installed ubuntu yet, I am making sure I don't need ndiswrapper on a flash drive before I install
[23:17] <alkisg> Athleek123: yes, I understand. You can check the pci id from the windows device manager
[23:17] <Athleek123> alkisg oh gotcha.  brb
[23:18] <alkisg> (or from a live cd)
[23:18] <caballero> old knoppix beowulf cluster works on mandrake 9.2 plug and play can it also be used on sparcstations running ubuntu ?
[23:19] <caballero> iso
[23:19] <caballero> live cd
[23:21] <Quantum_Ion> Funky !
[23:21] <Strategos> Groovy !
[23:23] <caballero> netgear n600 very secure never use a beta bios on anything whatsoever
[23:24] <caballero> especially not motherboards
[23:24] <caballero> the first one is never hijacked
[23:24] <Strategos> I presume you had a bad experience, Caballero?
[23:24] <Quantum_Ion> I switched to Linux Mint
[23:25] <Quantum_Ion> I am about to dump Ubuntu
[23:25] <Quantum_Ion> all because of the Unity interface
[23:25] <alkisg> Quantum_Ion: try installing gnome-session-fallback, it's like 10.04
[23:26] <Quantum_Ion> alkisg: I did all of that and I fudged the GUI so bad it crashed broken pipes
[23:26] <OerHeks> Quantum_Ion, mint has its own probles, good luck
[23:26] <Quantum_Ion> OerHeks: I am on Linux Mint Mate it's really stable
[23:26] <alkisg> Quantum_Ion: I'm not sure I understand, I'm using it daily because I don't like unity myself, it didn't give me any problems...
[23:27] <OerHeks> Quantum_Ion, so you left ubuntu allready.
[23:27] <ghostchick> quidnunc, just right click it on the launcher and pin it
[23:28] <Quantum_Ion> alkisg: Unity is a nightmare seems like it is glued to Ubuntu
[23:28] <mcamaret> Quantum_Ion: Unity isn
[23:28] <Quantum_Ion> OerHeks: Yeah you can't even make desktop launchers in Unity any more under Ubuntu
[23:28] <alkisg> Quantum_Ion: well, there are multiple alternative DEs and sessions... so no need to trouble yourself with it
[23:28] <mcamaret> Quauntum_Ion: Unity isn't that bad.
[23:29] <mcamaret> And Gnome-shell is awesome.
[23:29] <bz> default doesn't mean glued. sadly the difference is nuanced to the untrained eye.
[23:30] <OerHeks> Quantum_Ion, you can make unity launchers. but if that is the reason why you switched, cheap to come here and complain afterwards.
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: I've made plenty of launchers that appear in dash
[23:31] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip: I can't believe you are a Unity advocate
[23:31] <OerHeks> or HUD
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: Unity2D is ok. It has advantages. Depends on use
[23:31] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip: You must have had to suck it up
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: I use about 5 apps in GUI so it suits
[23:32] <Quantum_Ion> Linus Torvalds was right when he said Gnome 3 was broken
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: thats just his opinion
[23:35] <Quantum_Ion> Okay peace out I am going back to to #linux-mint chat
[23:37] <sunshinehappy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto there are ATI, NVidea etc.etc..
[23:37] <sunshinehappy> how do I find out which one mine is?
[23:37] <sunshinehappy> I ran lspci and it just says intel
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> sunshinehappy: then you have the driver already
[23:38] <sunshinehappy> oh, ok
[23:38] <sunshinehappy> but even though I have it, I have a graphics program with one program :(
[23:40] <ardeay> howdy all, i have a group/user file creation question
[23:40] <three18ti> !ask | ardeay
[23:40] <ardeay> we want certain users in group to create files with 775 over sftp
[23:42] <persona24> Is there a room on Google Chrome? And not Chromium either
[23:43] <three18ti> persona24, doesn't look like it, http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/A5Ca9k2_m2I
[23:43] <ardeay> group/user file creation question: we want certain users in group to create files with 775 over sftp by default
[23:44] <three18ti> personal24, there is an "unofficial" channel #chromium-support
[23:44] <persona24> three18ti: Thanks
[23:44] <makaro0n_> hi
[23:44] <three18ti> ardeay, so what's the question?
[23:45] <three18ti> hi makaro0n_, o/
[23:45] <HelloWorld321> three18ti: how to do it
[23:45] <ardeay> how do we force users to create files with 775 by default when uploading via sFTP (if that matters)
[23:46] <three18ti> HelloWorld321, what?
[23:46] <NastyNaz> how can I get ubuntu to turn my house lights on and off?
[23:46] <jagginess> ardeay, make everybody use the same user account.
[23:46] <jagginess> lol
[23:46] <jagginess> simple.
[23:46] <ardeay> lol
[23:46] <flodine> lol
[23:46] <ardeay> great
[23:46] <ghostchick> NastyNaz,  you are thinking of automation?
[23:47] <flodine> can i get a link on how to make all my laptops connect to my printer.
[23:47] <three18ti> ardeay, the umask is what will control this.
[23:47] <NastyNaz> ghostchick: i dunno I just need an app that can turn them on at like 7pm if I'm out of the house
[23:47] <three18ti> flodine, start here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[23:47] <dj_segfault> NastyNaz: You can control them with X10.
[23:48] <three18ti> NastyNaz, see http://www.arduino.cc/
[23:48] <dj_segfault> NastyNaz: there's quite a few different software and hardware options
[23:48] <HelloWorld321> ardeay: my solution is weak, but one could set up a chron job to chmod all the uploads on a timer
[23:48] <ardeay> is the umask different for sftp?
[23:48] <jagginess> HelloWorld321, if you know who. (btw it's called "cron", not "chron" )
[23:48] <flodine> thxs bro
[23:49]  * jagginess says what a chronjob
[23:49] <NastyNaz> Do I need a powerline plug?
[23:49] <jagginess> NastyNaz, ???
[23:50] <jagginess> NastyNaz, oh like x10 ?
[23:50] <NastyNaz> jagginess: so it can connect to my house power
[23:50] <ardeay> HelloWorld321: that is a solution, but not sure if its good for us
[23:50] <ardeay> since we need it the instant it exists
[23:50] <three18ti> ardeay, in general it's not a good idea to set up a cron job to change permissions.
[23:50] <jagginess> NastyNaz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X10_%28industry_standard%29
[23:50] <HelloWorld321> ya: it's weak.
[23:50] <three18ti> you can set the umask for all of the sftp logins
[23:50] <jagginess> NastyNaz, there are x10 related support programs in linux
[23:51] <smallfx> hello
[23:51] <_ThIs_IsATesT> hello
[23:51] <bz> there're so many ways to do it
[23:51] <smallfx> is anybody can to help?
[23:51] <ardeay> three18ti: can you confirm http://jeff.robbins.ws/articles/setting-the-umask-for-sftp-transactions is a good tutorial to reference
[23:51] <wylde> ardeay: perhaps use incron?
[23:51] <NastyNaz> jagginess: ah great that's exactly what I was looking for. You happen to know where I can get more info on the programs?
[23:51] <bz> you could automate at the light switch, automate at the power source, or automate at the light source itself
[23:51] <jagginess> NastyNaz, there's x10 linux groups online.. I was once thinking of trying but never got around to it
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> smallfx: with details, maybe...
[23:52] <dj_segfault> NastyNaz: http://www.smarthome.com   http://www.x10.com
[23:52] <jagginess> NastyNaz, even x10 irc chat lines here and there maybe here too
[23:52] <three18ti> ardeay, how about setting a sticky bit, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3106005/how-to-set-default-group-permissions-for-sftp-uploads
[23:52] <NastyNaz> dj_segfault: thanks
[23:52] <HelloWorld321> !ask | smallfx; I find the hard part is to ask the proper question
[23:53] <smallfx> i have last release of ubuntu and in firefox i cant to manage with flash player: i cant to push allow button to see my webcam
[23:53] <ardeay> three18ti: that looks better
[23:53] <three18ti> ardeay, however, using a wrapper like this would work if you need to be more flexible.
[23:54] <jagginess> NastyNaz, there's an irc and site called domogik but dont know if its just french..
[23:54] <dj_segfault> NastyNaz: I use http://www.heyu.org/ for software
[23:54] <ardeay> three18ti: so if we create a directory, and the parent directory has a sticky bit, does does that directory adapt that?
[23:55] <jagginess> ya, there's google results.. but i even think there's x10 magazines which would look cool to check out
[23:55] <smallfx> is anybody can to help wit this?
[23:55] <jetole> Hey guys. I just installed ubuntu 12.04 yesterday and I am getting some apt errors when I try to install libgtk-3-dev from apt-get, aptitude or symantec. The errors are referring to unmet dependencies and the error is E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. Posting full output @ http://pastebin.com/XEwZUK74. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[23:56] <Guest40940> set your tmp files to ram and have it wiped every 5 minutes
[23:56] <bz> 'symantec'
[23:56] <jagginess> jetole, lol symantec? like the antivirus company?
[23:56] <three18ti> jetole, sudo apt-get install -f
[23:56] <bz> jagginess: he meant synaptic, i think
[23:56] <jetole> jagginess: er, whatever it's called. I'm a console junky and it's usually my last option
[23:56] <dj_segfault> NastyNaz: I use a Firecracker for hardware
[23:57] <RichTea> ok well for now there seems to be two issues with Unetbootin for me, 1) the standard download is 32 bit only, solved by self compiling, 2) it does not reconise usb drives named like /dev/mmcb... there is a bug for this that says its fixed but i see not the suggestiod option! =)
[23:57] <jetole> three18ti: thanks. Let me see how that works out
[23:57] <NastyNaz> dj_segfault: it connects via serial?
[23:57] <jagginess> RichardBronosky, try pendrive's usb maker
[23:57] <three18ti> jetole, synaptic ;)
[23:57] <dj_segfault> NastyNaz: Yes.  I use a USB to serial converter
[23:57] <jagginess> RichTea, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[23:58] <jagginess> RichiH, make 1 single fat32 partition on the usb drive..
[23:58] <ardeay> wylde: incron looks cool, thanks for shring
[23:58] <NastyNaz> dj_segfault: what do you use for each of the appliances?
[23:58] <RichTea> jagginess: that required windows that will let you write in rew mode, i do not have that
[23:58] <jetole> three18ti: same output. I have also run "apt-get clean && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" and I have also run "dpkg --configure -a" based on some forum posts. I notice the first line of the Depends: is saying the version I have installed is newer then the version required too which I find odd
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> RichTea: you can also use dd to put the ISO on the USB
[23:59] <RichTea> ^raw
[23:59] <jagginess> RichTea, make a single fat32 partition on the usb drive (or also called vfat in linux)
[23:59] <wylde> ardeay: it's very handy.
[23:59] <three18ti> jetole, where's your error again?  (sorry too lazy too look through the scrollback)