[04:41] <micahg> ailo: you actually did the testing for Bug #1019537?
[04:45] <ailo> micahg: I did, yes
[04:45] <micahg> ailo: ok, I'll upload it then, thanks
[04:45] <ailo> micahg: Great!
[06:43] <micahg> ailo: is Bug #956438 something that should be fixed for 12.04.1?
[06:44] <micahg> rather, is it something that US devs should commit to for 12.04.1
[08:08] <ailo_> micahg: I believe jack devs are aware of that bug, which is why qjackctl got its' panic button
[08:09] <ailo_> Don't think we can fix it ourselves, however, if a newer jack will solve it, and it appears soon in the development release, we could see about backporting that as well
[08:09] <ailo_> It's a bit annoying having that kind of a bug on a LTS release
[08:29] <micahg> ailo_: a backport won't be on 12.04.1 though
[08:29] <micahg> I backported qjackctl for the new feature :)
[08:30] <micahg> bugs should really be fixed as SRUs though
[08:43] <ailo_> micahg: Oh, ok. I guess I should look at how to SRU then. But qjackctl will be updated on installs won't it?
[08:43] <ailo_> I mean, when you do an update, the newer qjackctl will be installed?
[08:45] <ailo_> backports are enabled by default after all
[08:45] <ailo_> Not nice to have the bug on a live ISO anyway
[10:04] <astraljava> micahg: Good point, I'll add that to the agenda as well.
[10:05] <astraljava> micahg: TheMuso: I'm a little unsure about what to do with the kernel updates. We're still behind mainline on precise, what do I need to do to get that up-to-date?
[15:09] <len-dt> ailo_, I am thinking we should replace "task manager" with "system monitor"
[15:10] <len-dt> ailo_, you may remember the fun I had figuring out how much memory an application uses.
[15:10] <len-dt> System monitor seems to give the numbers that make the most sense
[15:15] <len-dt> Looking at them side by side.. System monitor offers a lot more. Almost all of our workflows are resource hungry too. So a tool for finding those kinds of problems should be the better one.
[15:31] <len-dt> System monitor does use more resources, but task manager does no better than top and uses a lot more resources to do that.
[16:17] <ailo_> len-dt: I prefer system monitor as well
[16:27] <len-dt> ailo_, we got the task manager as part of xfce
[16:36]  * len-dt would like a tray applet that shows memory left.
[16:38] <ailo_> len-dt: I added a couple things to blueprints, misc. 1. to maybe change to system monitor. 2. To have nautilus run the desktop (it's not default for everything right now)
[16:39] <ailo_> len-dt: Evern heard of sieve? - a mail filtering language
[16:40] <ailo_> I've been having a lot of fun adding custom filters to my incouming email
[16:40] <ailo_> Got it with the mail service I use. I quit using gmail, and started paying for the one I have
[17:35] <micahg> ailo_: no, backports is enabled by default, but you have to select the backport version (you could release note it), but ideally, the bug should be fixed
[20:09] <len-dt> ailo_, I haven;t used sieve, or any other filter. Nautilus seems to be in the middle of a name change... identity crisis?
[20:10] <len-dt> ailo_, The executable is still nautilus but the about says "Files" On the 12.10 live ISO.
[20:11] <len-dt> ailo_, +1 on the suggested changes BTW.
[20:41] <ailo_> len-dt: Gnome is renaming some apps, but the package name will probably not change
[20:42] <ailo_> len-dt: Epiphany browser is now called "Web" tec
[20:54] <len-dt> ailo_, Ya I remember that too. The package name helps upgrades work, though dummy packages work too.
[20:59] <ailo_> I guess evolution might change to email? :P
[22:47] <len-dt> falktx, Have you tried jack_control from your jackd package? It doesn't work for me
[22:47] <len-dt>  jack_control exit
[22:47] <len-dt>   File "/usr/bin/jack_control", line 327
[22:47] <len-dt>     configure_iface.ResetParameterValue(['internals', internal_name, param])
[22:47] <len-dt>                   ^
[22:47] <len-dt> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
[22:48] <falktx> len-dt: maybe needs python2?
[22:48] <len-dt> I am not sure if it is the jackd package or something that has changed in dbus in precise
[22:48] <len-dt> It used to work before. I have used jack_control a lot because of qjackctl issues.
[22:49] <falktx> I see
[22:49] <falktx> need to report this to nedko then
[22:50] <len-dt> falktx, I didn't want to file a bug at ubuntu because it is not the ubuntu package.
[22:50] <falktx> len-dt: sure thing, thanks for reporting
[22:50] <falktx> I'm already speaking with nedko about this
[22:51] <len-dt> if you need me to test things or report any things about how my system is I can do that.
[22:51] <len-dt> I do have to go right now though and do some family things (beach)
[22:51] <falktx> len-dt: I can get the error here, so it's ok (I'll be able to test this myself)
[22:51] <len-dt> OK
[22:52] <falktx> I'm pretty sure a fix will be here in a few minutes
[22:52] <len-dt> Thank you.