[05:47] <acmeinc2> what program would you consider is closest in relation to somethign like Reason?  hydrogen?  I primarily work in Ardour, but I'm working on a new project which relies on samples, midi keys, and synth drums.  Ideas appreciated....
[05:53] <ailo> acmeinc2: Hydrogen is ok for drums. I use it mainly as a drum machine.
[05:54] <ailo> I would try using qtractor as the core sequencer
[05:54] <ailo> You can always sync several sequencers too
[05:54] <acmeinc2> cool yea, thats what im noticing...im just having a hard time finding a good medium to import samples into...
[05:55] <ailo> acmeinc2: Did you try specimen?
[05:55] <acmeinc2> qsynth has worked well for midi keys
[05:55] <acmeinc2> na trying now
[05:55] <ailo> I've never tried it actually. I have worked with linux-sampler a bit though
[05:55] <ailo> linux-sampler has a license issue, why it's not included in the main repo
[05:56] <acmeinc2> apt-get'n that now
[05:56] <ailo> You can get it with one of the kxstudio PPA's
[05:56] <acmeinc2> bah...not there..ok
[05:58] <ailo> linux-sampler is nice, but I find that qsampler, which is a front-end for it, often crashes
[05:59] <acmeinc2> ok, so i'm seeing in specimen i'll have to cut up the sample first...so ardour then first...at least thats my first though
[05:59] <acmeinc2> thought
[06:06] <ailo> acmeinc2: I use audacity for editing samples. Just find it the easiest for that
[06:06] <ailo> Things to consider are quick fade-in and fade-out
[06:06] <ailo> Also, level
[06:07] <ailo> Audacity has built-in processing for a lot of things you want when you edit samples
[06:07] <ailo> like pitch-shifting, etc
[06:08] <ailo> The first thing you want to do is make sure the audio file that is to become a sample will begin with level 0, and end with level 0. This is why it's good to use fade-in and fade-out. I usually do a 1-2ms fade-in at the beginning
[06:09] <ailo> If it doesn't start at 0, you might get a click noise
[06:09] <ailo> Maybe you already know this..
[06:09] <acmeinc2> cool, yea i always kinda bypass audacity in my head, youre right though, that would be perfect
[06:10] <acmeinc2> much simpler for a single track cut...yea, i think i have a good direction...thanks again ailo
[06:11] <ailo> Wow, there's a great game in the repo now. 0ad
[06:12] <ailo> A sort of Age of Empires game
[06:12] <ailo> The same people who did the Age of Kings mod it seems
[11:20] <`wookie> anyone around?
[13:12] <eein_> len-dt, i've been thinking about this m-audio 1010lt setup and even if i make a custom asoundrc i believe i will have the same problem of ardour mapping a track number to the first connection.  say for instance i want to record vocals from the 1 or 2 input XLR, now those would be mapped to tracks 9&10 in ardour so i would need to records 8 empty tracks with it
[13:13] <eein_> im hoping that maybe i just dont understand how this works as this seems an odd behavior to map a track to a connection
[14:56] <len-dt> eein_, you would have two audio devices. The real one and the fake one.
[14:57] <len-dt> eein_, You would use the fake one for audacity capture with pulseaudio probably
[14:57] <len-dt> eein_, you would use the real one with jackd for ardour or if you wanted to use your XLRs
[15:16] <ninjah> greetings
[15:17] <len-dt> ninjah, hello
[15:17] <ninjah> len-dt, how are you?
[15:17] <len-dt> Ok, just waking up..
[15:17] <ninjah> i was wondering
[15:18] <ninjah> since i cannot install windows - how to run win7 programs in vine?
[15:18] <ninjah> is this off topic?
[15:19] <ninjah> cuz now, i am running ubuntu studio and need several programs that linux doesnt have
[15:19] <ninjah> which is by the way the best ubuntu i installed
[15:19] <len-dt> I am glad you like it.
[15:19] <ninjah> so a big thanks to the developers
[15:20] <len-dt> I did install wine, but don't have a store of windows programs to run.
[15:20] <ninjah> and if you need an extra hand at skins, icons... graphic wise i'm more than excited to help - and translationwise - into ex-yu languages
[15:21] <len-dt> They all cost some pennies, and since I started playing with computers I have not used MS software... though I did use OS/2 for a bit which had some MS dve help.
[15:22] <len-dt> We are always looking for help
[15:22] <len-dt> I think we have (had) french input (besides english) but that is about it.
[15:24] <len-dt> I can certainly think of some icons that need help too. The one for the photography menu stands out. (I made that one)
[17:01] <xubuntu308_> hi all
[17:02] <xubuntu308_> I have recently changed my motherboard and have no sound since
[17:02] <holstein> xubuntu308_: i would try some live CD's and make sure the hardware works
[17:02] <xubuntu308_> good idea
[17:02] <xubuntu308_> :)
[17:03] <holstein> xubuntu308_: if its onboard sound and you are planning on doing audio production, you might consider a USB device that will be more easily supported and more appropriate
[17:03] <holstein> you can try messing with kernel version and alsa versions
[17:03] <xubuntu308_> I am not plannig audio prod
[17:03] <xubuntu308_> but one guy from #xubuntu
[17:03] <holstein> you should look in the bios and see that the device is on
[17:03] <xubuntu308_> told me to go here
[17:04] <holstein> you are welcome here, but when you come back later and this channel is dead, try #ubuntu
[17:04] <xubuntu308_> I am cuurently tryiing the AlsaUpgradeScipt
[17:04] <holstein> this is what to do though.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting/
[17:04] <xubuntu308_> yes
[17:04] <holstein> i would try live CD's first, unless you are sure about how to undo the alsa upgrade
[17:04] <xubuntu308_> I followed these instructions
[17:05] <holstein> i would run in a terminal
[17:05] <holstein> aplay -l
[17:05] <holstein> and/or arecord -l
[17:05] <holstein> if you see a device listed, then you know the kernel is picking in up
[17:05] <holstein> you can look in alsamixer in the terminal, and *trust no labels*
[17:06] <xubuntu308_> aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found
[17:06] <holstein> literally tweak each setting
[17:06] <holstein> xubuntu308_: OK.. so thats going to mean the device is not on, not working, or the kernel is not picking it up
[17:06] <xubuntu308_> tbh I am fighting with this for several hours
[17:07] <xubuntu308_> and at one time I managed to get it recognized
[17:07] <holstein> sure, but unless you know how? its not helpful
[17:07] <xubuntu308_> :)
[17:07] <holstein> also if the hardware is bad, i would expect to see it coming an going
[17:07] <holstein> and*
[17:08] <holstein> i would do whatever makes you feel comfortable to determine the hardware is good
[17:08] <holstein> live CD's are typically how i do that
[17:08] <xubuntu308_> ok
[17:08] <xubuntu308_> this is a very good idea
[17:08] <holstein> then, you can move on to alsa rev's or whatever
[17:08] <xubuntu308_> I will try to find a live cd I may have one somewhere
[17:09] <xubuntu308_> maybe I'll be back :)
[17:09] <xubuntu308_> thanks for your help
[17:11] <holstein> you are welcome here anytime
[17:11] <holstein> however, its usually dead, and your issue is not studio related
[17:11] <holstein> we deal more with creating content... not that you wont get help here, or #opensourcemusicians if you are "at the right place at the right time"
[17:12] <holstein> good luck xubuntu308_ !
[18:35] <devtekbeta> are there any other networks with big channels for music production? cant find much on freenode
[18:41] <GridCube> devtekbeta, http://searchirc.com/search.php?F=partial&I=music+production&T=both&N=all&M=min&C=15&PER=15&D=color&Submit=+Go+
[18:41] <astraljava> devtekbeta: Don't know your definition of 'production', but a very good channel for music people is #opensourcemusicians.
[18:44] <devtekbeta> thanks. i tried that irc search site earlier but the interface was so terrible i couldnt find anything
[18:44] <devtekbeta> what network is #opensourcemusicians on?
[18:44] <ailo_> devtekbeta: Same as this
[18:45] <ailo_> devtekbeta: There are a few on this network that might interest you #ardour #jack, and a few others, depending on what you like to do
[18:45] <ailo_> devtekbeta: A very short list at the bottom https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/IRC
[18:46] <devtekbeta> thanks. didnt see opensourcemusicians when i looked before. but found it now :)