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[00:17] <FloodBotK1> michael___: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:36] <cham> hello
[03:37] <cham> テスト
[04:07] <L3top> !jp | cham
[05:09] <ed3lgon> n
[05:10] <ed3lgon> hello there
[05:18] <mr0wl> hey, i lost plymouth splash screen, all i get now is "Kubuntu...." with white background and text.
[05:18] <mr0wl> any idea on how to get it back?
[05:56] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[06:43] <Smurphy> Morning
[07:58] <floown> hello
[07:58] <floown> I can not share a directory truth samba, in Dolphin
[08:00] <floown> when I do a right clic, the share options for invite is not selectable
[08:04] <floown> ok, I have try with a another directory, it's works for a dir in my home
[08:04] <floown> but not for a hdd in ntfs mounted with fstab
[08:05] <floown> # /windows was on /dev/sda1 during installation
[08:05] <floown> UUID=C698A46898A45927 /mnt/windows        ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       0
[08:36] <Guest43510> .
[09:51] <ct529> hi there .... how can I partition a new disk using GPt rather than old MBR 4 partition structure?
[09:55] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[09:56] <hateball> ct529: is this a drive you have yet to install an OS on?
[09:56] <hateball> or rather... do you have access to the drive, with your installed OS?
[09:59] <ct529> hateball: yes, it is a new drive, nothing on it, still to be formatted
[10:03] <ct529> hateball: yes, I have access to the drive .... I can simply stick it into my laptop
[10:03] <ct529> hateball: or even connect it externally
[10:07] <mydogsnameisrudy> what OS do you plan to run on it ct529? just wondering
[10:08] <ct529> mydogsnameisrudy: a couple of versions of linux
[10:08] <mydogsnameisrudy> ok i was reading some on it ....
[10:12]  * ct529 pings hateball
[10:15] <mydogsnameisrudy> ct529:  found this info   not sure if it will help any  http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/
[10:16] <kchat> Hello, just installed kubuntu for testing purposes, I'm looking for /etc/inittab to set the runlevel at boot time, but I can't find it, does anyone know if there is a simple and fast way to do it?
[10:20] <philwyett> kchat: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#change-runlevel-immediately
[10:21] <ct529> mydogsnameisrudy: thanks a lot
[10:21] <mydogsnameisrudy> seems to have all you need ? ct529
[10:21] <mydogsnameisrudy> im going to read thru it also seem intereesting
[10:23] <ct529> mydogsnameisrudy: mmmm .... I will let you know as soon as I have worked my way through .... :-D
[10:23] <mydogsnameisrudy> ok ;)
[10:24] <kchat> Thank you very much philwyett ...
[10:24] <kchat> this is ok ...
[10:51] <mydogsnameisrudy> ct529:  more info to look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69X9ZYA41xU&feature=plcp
[11:02] <ct529> mydogsnameisrudy: I do not udnerstand .... my list of potential partition types does not allow for linux filesystem
[11:04] <mydogsnameisrudy> not sure why you want this i guess alot of work to get it running but , way more then i would do ;)
[11:44] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:44] <mydogsnameisrudy> hey BluesKaj
[11:45] <BluesKaj> hi mydogsnameisrudy
[13:05] <oracleoftruth> Hello there. Is anyone able to help with networking? Just need to connect two kubuntu 12.04 laptops on the wireless network. Cannot work out why its not working. Tried samba but no luck. Could be firewall?
[13:07] <hateball> what do you need to connect?
[13:07] <hateball> share files?
[13:08] <hateball> My experience with samba is little, and full of headache. I'd just use sshfs if it's about file-sharing
 yeah just share some files.
[13:09] <hateball> !sshfs
 right. I don't know anything about sshfs
[13:10] <oracleoftruth> Brilliant thanks!
[13:10] <hateball> or even
[13:10] <hateball> !nfs
[13:10] <hateball> If you're doing Linux <-> Linux networking, Samba is like the last resort :)
[13:11] <hateball> And for me, it is even if there are other OS's involved ;p
[13:11] <oracleoftruth> Thanks <hateball>! I appreciate it
[13:17] <sktrasher> bonjour à tous
[13:18] <sktrasher> je chreche un canal irc a propos de Qt4
[13:32] <RagnaRok__> guys whenever i try to create a new project under netbeans (7.0.1) and switch to the design tab the preview window just reads "loading..." but nothing seems to happen
[13:32] <RagnaRok__> how can i fix this?
[13:47] <BluesKaj> !fr | sktrasher
[13:48] <sktrasher> ok
[13:49]  * Smurphy love the channel polic -> Traduction: J'adore la police du channel ...
[13:51] <BluesKaj> quel police du canal ? :)
[13:51] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, ^
[13:52] <Smurphy> toi :) Qui d'autre ...
[13:52] <Smurphy> Nous sommes sur une Planete - elle s'appelle Terre - 3ieme en partant du soleil :}
[13:53] <BluesKaj> I'm not an op
[13:53] <Smurphy> Si un pays la bousille - on est tous bousillé :)
[13:53] <Smurphy> Si - tu dis aux étranger d'aller autre part :)
[13:56] <BluesKaj> enough  french , I was just kidding around  ... 3rd planet from then sun , but destroyed? what's that about
[13:58] <utu-san> topic was set last May and it's now July.  Is kubuntu in limbo?
[13:59] <utu-san> am curious about the election though
[13:59] <utu-san> still tallying?
[13:59] <BluesKaj> the guidelines don't change , the sites posted there have info that does though
[13:59] <BluesKaj> dunno
[14:00] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: Hitchhikers guide :)
[14:00] <utu-san> guidelines?  you mean the election thing doesn't change?
[14:01] <BluesKaj> utu-san, of course not , the results will still be posted at the same site as I said
[14:02] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, I no longer hitchhike :)
[14:02] <Smurphy> :} I do ...
[14:03] <BluesKaj> and haven't for a very very long time
[14:18] <stripe> hi all, cant get/change the menu options on Kplayer  (fullscreen/progress etc) any ideas?? thanks
[14:22] <BluesKaj> stripe, use dragonplayer , it's the default or Mplayer
[14:27] <stripe> <BluesKaj dragonplayer and mplayer will not play all of my mp4 videos but Kplayer will (no idea why)
[14:28] <BluesKaj> stripe, have you nstalled kubuntu-restricted-extras and the extra codecs available at the medibuntu repos
[14:30] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | stripe
[14:31] <stripe> BluesKaj: I have installed the restricted extras, but dont know anything about medibunttu, am looking for it now
[14:37] <BluesKaj> look above stri
[15:07] <dougl> linux-headers-3.2.0-23
[15:07] <dougl> linux-headers-3.2.0-23-lowlatency
[15:07] <dougl> linux-image-3.2.0-23-lowlatency is what I want to try for my freezing up 64 bit kubuntu 12.04 -> how do I install this kernel?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> dougl, http://askubuntu.com/questions/142192/can-i-install-linux-kernel-3-4-in-ubuntu-and-kubuntu-12-04
[15:10] <dougl> BluesKaj, How are you :) => thanks
[15:10] <BluesKaj> any  error messages in /var/log/, dougl , sounds like X problems with plasma
[15:11] <dougl> BluesKaj, checking...
[15:11] <dougl> err - what log file?
[15:12] <BluesKaj> dougl, probly Xorg.0.log
[15:15] <dougl> BluesKaj, my kubuntu connected UPS went off line at 12:41 last night so my kubuntu froze at 12:40 => how do I find log entries for that time?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> dougl, try syslog.1
[15:20] <stripe> Hi all, have installed: restricted extras and medibuntu, but certain mp4 video files will not play in dragonplayer and gnome mplayer, but they will play in kplayer and vlc, any ideas?? thanks
[15:23] <BluesKaj> stripe, perhaps they are DRM encoded , best to install libdvdcss2 globally, sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2, in the terminal
[15:23] <stripe> thanks BluesKaj will tr4y that
[15:26] <stripe> BluesKaj no difference,  Strange thing is that I dont have the same problems with other videos from the same site (youtube)
[15:30] <BluesKaj> stripe, these are downloaded files from youtbe then they could H264 which are only playable on VLC and a couple of other players ..H264 is patented in North America and some euro countries and some in asia as well
[15:31] <BluesKaj> be happy they play in VLC , i's the best player out here IME , once you learn how to use it , which does take time and patience, it's the best player
[15:33] <BluesKaj> !info H 264
[15:33] <dougl> BluesKaj, the logs only dsplay data up to 9:46 am when I hard booted after freeze :(
[15:33] <BluesKaj> !info H264
[15:33] <stripe> Thanks BluesKaj, that could be the problem, I am happy they play in VLC (I like it as well) going to try to convert 1 and see what that does. thanks again for the help mate.
[15:34] <BluesKaj> stripe why convert ?
[15:34] <bazhang> x264, h264enc  may be what you want
[15:34] <bazhang> !info x264
[15:34] <BluesKaj> daed, he wants to decode the files
[15:35] <BluesKaj> bazhang, ^
[15:35] <stripe> BluesKaj: just one to see if it makes a difference, thats all
[15:35] <BluesKaj> stripe, it will , probly lossy
[15:35] <bazhang> then use handbrake
[15:36] <stripe> BluesKaj:  cheers mate, thanks again for the help
[15:36] <BluesKaj> VLC might convert it as well
[16:22] <dougl> updated my kernel => where do I go to enable my nvidia drivers again?
[16:23]  * dougl has 640x480 splattered accross 22" screen and cannot see much
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[16:28] <FloodBotK1> michael___: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:29] <michael___> 'E-4`4H=\W%Kugau9RwbrA8knMox-tQab_g6BN)?>Z`e
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[16:29] <DarthFrog> !ops | michael___
[16:30] <DarthFrog> maco:  Thank you.
[16:38] <dougl> I just installed 3.4.0 kernel on my 12.04 kubuntu and now my nvidia drivers won't install - any suggestions?
[16:39] <BluesKaj> dougl, which nvidi drivers and which card
[16:39] <BluesKaj> err nvidia
[16:40] <dougl> 295.40 and...
[16:41] <dougl> gt220
[16:43] <BluesKaj>  dougl onboard?
[16:43] <dougl> no... card in slot
[16:44] <dougl> http://weltall.heliohost.org/wordpress/2012/04/01/3-4-0-rc1-and-nvidia-drivers/
[16:44] <dougl> there is info on issue... just need to find out where I can get the installer
[16:47] <philwyett> dougl: If you want help from wetall (author of article) join #crystalspace or #ubuntu. He may help you directly.
[16:48] <dougl> philwyett, thanks - never noticed the connection :)
[16:51] <BluesKaj> dougl, check additional driver in kmenu>apps>system, choose the recommended driver
[16:53] <dougl> BluesKaj, "Sorry, installation of this driver failed. Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log"
[16:54] <BluesKaj> dougl, bummer , maybe the nvidia proprietary or xedgers ppa is worth looking ar
[16:54] <dougl> BluesKaj, k - thanks
[17:27] <Miguelito> Hey any multimedia wiz's here :)
[17:42] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[17:53] <Num83rGuy> Does network manager create a tun device for VPN connections or can it if requested?
[17:56] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: are you there?
[17:57] <BluesKaj> yes phoenix_firebrd
[17:57] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: due you compile form source?
[17:57] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: *from
[17:59] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: i know you dont like pulseaudio, i am starting to feel the same
[17:59] <BluesKaj> I have yes
[17:59] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: so you compile from source?
[18:00] <BluesKaj> well, i have to tolerste pulse because my soundcard doesn't play webaudio without it
[18:00] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: ya
[18:00] <BluesKaj> I compile from source only if I have to
[18:00] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: now you use pulseaudio right?
[18:00] <BluesKaj> yes
[18:01] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: what is your current kde version?
[18:02] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, kde 4.8.90
[18:02] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: nice
[18:03] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: is you kmix working properly after changing from stereo to 5.1
[18:04] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, I use digital out from the spdif to an audio sytem amp which converts the dgital signal to analog
[18:05] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: thats nice, you escaped
[18:06] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: they is a bug in kmix in selecting the master channel selection
[18:07] <BluesKaj> i have only one master in kmix , but if you set the master in alsamixer , it should work
[18:11] <mmh> when i try to lower brightness my system freezes..is it bug in LTS?please help me out
[18:11] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, paste your alsamixer
[18:13] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: a fellow in kde-bugs is helping in testing my patch, can you wait?
[18:14] <BluesKaj> I'll be here for a little while
[18:15] <Num83rGuy> Does network manager create a tun device for VPN connections or can it if requested?
[18:15] <mmh> i cannot even enter command mode i .e Ctr+Alt+F1 ..i have to forcely shutdown wenever it freezes
[18:19] <BluesKaj> Num83rGuy, dunno what a tun device is , but i believe VPN can be configured to work with NM
[18:22] <Num83rGuy> BluesKaj: I think I finally found the answer, tun is a tunnel device and yes it seems that tun0 is my VPN connection.
[18:25] <BluesKaj> Num83rGuy, ok then ssh would be one method of tunneling
[18:27] <Num83rGuy> Yes. I wanted to lock some programs to my VPN connection so if it goes down no data is transmitted on my standard network.
[18:28] <Num83rGuy> By using only tun0 as opposed to eth0 I can do that.
[19:38] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: are you there?
[19:42] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: http://imagebin.org/219235
[19:44] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, move the --> to the line out etc so I can see the rest of the alsamixer ctrls
[19:47] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: http://imagebin.org/219237
[19:49] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, is there no line out ?
[19:49] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: http://imagebin.org/219238
[19:50] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: i have pasted all, capture and playback, thats the entire thing, no line out i guess, i cant see any thing like that
[19:54] <BluesKaj> ok phoenix_firebrd looks like the analog 5.1 is working , but I'm not real familiar with that. Is there no sound from those outputs or ?
[19:55] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: no no, audio is fine here
[19:56] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: kmix is the problem
[19:57] <BluesKaj> have you tried removing kmix , it's bascivally just a gui with volume ctrl and install pavucontrol or veromix instead to replace it
[19:58] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj:  i dont like veromix
[19:58] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: pavucontrol is a gtk one
[19:59] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: hm?
[19:59] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: i have fixed the bug in kmix, i am trying to post it to the review board, having problem with the diff file
[20:00] <BluesKaj> how did you fix it phoenix_firebrd , care to share ?
[20:00] <yofel> how did you create the file? Usually just use git diff
[20:00] <yofel> or commit and use git format-patch
[20:00] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: sure i will paste the link to the diff
[20:01] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: i haven't tried both the thing you are telling, can you check the diff file ?
[20:02] <yofel> well, feel free to pastebin it
[20:02] <phoenix_firebrd> http://paste.kde.org/511328/
[20:02]  * BluesKaj shrugs , I have pavucontrol and pulseaudio , I don't like them , but I have to live with it in order to have audio on websites , mostly because flash audio doesn't link to alsa thru my pci soundcard from a browser
[20:03] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: i know :)
[20:03] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: checking?
[20:04] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: this is the error message i am getting when uploading the diff file to the review board "The file 'gui/dialogselectmaster.cpp' (r) could not be found in the repository"
[20:04] <yofel> looking
[20:05] <yofel> hm, are you sure you selected the right branch in reviewboard? (master probably)
[20:05] <yofel> otherwise ask in #kde-multimedia
[20:06] <yofel> with people at akademy currently you might have to be patient a bit
[20:06] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: http://imagebin.org/219241
[20:07] <BluesKaj> yofel, looks like site one can learn from. i didn't know it existed
[20:08] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: which one?
[20:09] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: what do you do when you submit a diff?
[20:09] <BluesKaj> yofel, kde-multimedia
[20:10] <BluesKaj> I really need to get my multimedia cli-text command files organized
[20:12] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: I'm getting the same error, so I would ask in #kde-multimedia. Not sure if that's something for the sysadmins
[20:13] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: how do you submit diffs?
[20:13] <yofel> same way?
[20:15] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: is my diff file ok?
[20:17] <yofel> doesn't apply against master here,  but that seems to be something wrong with the paste IMO
[20:18] <yofel> wrong indent http://paste.kde.org/511340
[20:18] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd,  yes , but where did you find the info for the fix ? it would be good to know.
[20:18] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: i did it
[20:19] <BluesKaj> ok how?
[20:19] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: and unless paste.kde.org shows it oddly, your indentation is different from the existing code in a few places
[20:19] <yofel> (mixed tabs and spaces?)
[20:20] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: let me check
[20:20] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: only problem with kmix.cpp right?\
[20:21] <yofel> right
[20:22] <yofel> bah, the existing kmix code is mixed tabs and spaces as well -.-
[20:23] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: what your kmix source version?
[20:24] <yofel> git master?
[20:24] <yofel> git clone git://anongit.kde.org/kmix.git
[20:24] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: do you have 4.8.90?
[20:25] <yofel> hm
[20:25] <yofel> wait
[20:26] <yofel> now I'm on master, same error though
[20:28] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: did you try patching with 4.8.90?
[20:28] <yofel> same rejects. Probably broken copy and paste from paste.kde.org thanks to the tabs
[20:29] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: how can i send the file?
[20:31] <yofel> nvm, wget to the rescue
[20:32] <yofel> ok, now it applies, except that the patch is invalid in line 97
[20:34] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: i am getting the same error
[20:34] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: let me check
[20:36] <yofel> something's wrong with the diff block in lines 89-96, says +/- 7, but it's +/- 6
[20:36] <yofel> better recreate the diff
[20:41] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: http://paste.kde.org/511352/
[20:41] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: thats mixer.cpp patch
[20:43] <yofel> the diff for core/mixer.cpp is fine, it's the last diff block for apps/kmix.h that's invalid
[20:43] <yofel> ah
[20:43] <yofel> was just missing an empty line
[20:44] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: solved?
[20:45] <yofel> same error on reviewboard though, maybe something's messed up with the repository setup there
[20:46] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: they are also recommending to use this "post-review"
[20:46] <yofel> I never used that
[20:47] <yofel> fun
[20:47] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: last time i tried without success, i just attached the patch to the bug report and someone picked it
[20:47] <yofel> reviewboard barfs if you don't use git to create the iff
[20:47] <yofel> *diff
[20:48] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: in that case i dont have permission
[20:48] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: here's something that works with reviewboard, please make sure no changes were dropped: http://paste.kde.org/511364 (it also applies against master)
[20:48] <yofel> huh? you do
[20:48] <yofel> what *did* you use to create the patch in the first place?
[20:49] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: the cli diff
[20:50] <yofel> ah. Not sure why it failed then. I applied it in the repos and used git diff to create the one above
[20:51] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: since i am a beginner, errors may tend to happen :)
[20:54] <yofel> sure, no problem. As git.reviewboard seems to really need patches understood by git, best take a look at http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Git someday
[20:55] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: sure
[20:55] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: one year before i set a gaol to learn to package , now i am able to compile from source, i think i have completed 5% of my goal
[20:56] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: have to learn about the install locations and cmake
[20:56] <yofel> make that 25%, you'll often spend time wondering why something doesn't build...
[20:57] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: what is the most common thing you encounter?
[20:59] <yofel> usually something out of: missing build-dep, linking error, wrong file location or need some distro adjustment
[21:02] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: if we submit the patch today and if it gets accepted, will it be committed to  kde 4.9 rc2?
[21:03] <yofel> dunno, you'll have to ask the reviewer that. RC2 tagging is a week away though
[21:05] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: the patch fixes this bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290177 and the dock icon problem
[21:05] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: ok whats the best thing to do?
[21:05] <yofel> put it on reviewboard and say it fixes the bug - that's what I would do at least
[21:08] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: the diff file you gave is working with the review board
[21:09] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: now editing the details
[21:29] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105422/
[21:33] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: thank you, see you later
[21:35] <Aptar> In the dolphin file browsing window how do you view hidden files?
[21:36] <phoenix_firebrd> Aptar: press <alt>+.
[21:36] <sunitasethi> ?
[21:37] <Aptar> phoenix_firebrd, Thank you.
[21:37] <Aptar> :)
[21:37] <phoenix_firebrd> Aptar: yw
[21:37] <Aptar> <-- newbie...
[21:38] <Aptar> Which you have already figured out by that question ;)
[21:39] <phoenix_firebrd> Aptar: i am too a newbie
[21:41] <Aptar> oh :)
[22:12] <goodluck> :-)
[23:32] <Lymphocyte> will kubuntu 12.04 get kde 4.9 when its stable?
[23:55] <bobweaver> Hello there I have a question . What is the name of well....  in gnome it is called  gnome-session-quit  what is that called in kde ?