[02:22] <wendar> ajmitch: I did a rough cut through all the ARB submissions, dividing them up into channels in Trello
[02:23] <wendar> most haven't been looked at by anyone (first channel)
[02:23] <wendar> a few are waiting for a reply from the developer
[02:23] <wendar> and a few have a reply from the developer and are ready for further action
[02:23] <ajmitch> wendar: awesome, thanks for doing that
[02:23] <wendar> I also tagged every submission that has a PPA
[02:24] <wendar> and, tagged the ones that were submitted to App Showdown
[02:24] <wendar> so we can quickly search and pull those up
[02:24] <ajmitch> now we just have to make sure we can keep this in sync with myapps
[02:25] <wendar> yup, it's pretty quick to tweak an app
[02:25] <ajmitch> I see you've marked some as license issue?
[02:26] <wendar> I wonder if we might be able to repurpose dholbach's tools for scraping MyApps to check for synchronization between MyApps and Trello
[02:26] <wendar> ajmitch: yes, those had some comment about a license problem in the feedback
[02:26] <ajmitch> I was planning to do so, since I know we can poke some stuff into trello via the API
[02:26] <wendar> or, for Scratch and Skype, I just know they're a situation that is likely to have licensing problems
[02:27] <wendar> that would be cool. Even if we can't automate all changes to Trello, we can at least "lint" between the two to make sure they make sense
[02:27] <ajmitch> so now I just have to use this info to take a look at apps :)
[02:29] <ajmitch> I'll mail the list asking for people's details so I can add them to the board
[02:29] <wendar> personally, I'm prioritizing the ones that already have a reply from the developer
[02:29] <wendar> since, they're likely to be closer to done
[02:29] <wendar> then ones with a ppa
[02:29] <wendar> (actually, it seems most have ppas now, which is goo)
[02:29] <wendar> *good
[02:29] <ajmitch> the PPA requirement was emphasised as part of the app showdown
[02:30] <wendar> and last priority on ones that have no PPA
[02:30] <wendar> yes, all the app showdown submissions have a ppa
[02:30] <wendar> but, even lots of others now have ppas
[02:30] <wendar> a good sign that we've improved the documentation :)
[02:31]  * ajmitch is still seeing a few .deb submissions
[02:31] <ajmitch> the upload field is still confusing there
[02:31] <wendar> yes, I bounced back a couple of .debs as I was going through the list :(
[02:32] <wendar> ajmitch: btw, is the trello board publically viewable?
[02:32]  * wendar thinks it should be, just not sure where that setting is
[02:32] <ajmitch> no, it's not yet
[02:33] <ajmitch> I've just set it to public
[02:34] <wendar> cool
[06:40] <dholbach> good morning
[06:40] <dholbach> Happy Apps Sprint Day 1! :)
[06:46] <dholbach> can somebody please move https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1125/ to the other queue? (.pdf submission)
[06:50] <ajmitch> dholbach: do you have a 'submit to myapps' button? if so, you can move those
[06:50] <dholbach> ajmitch, do I need to "start review"?
[06:50] <ajmitch> yeah
[06:51] <ajmitch> this is one of the confusing parts of the workflow :)
[06:51]  * ajmitch is just overjoyed at the moment that he can use ssh for a few minutes, ISP seems to have had some bad packet loss tonight
[06:52] <dholbach> Apparently I do. :)
[06:52] <dholbach> ajmitch, thanks
[06:53] <ajmitch> thanks for lookign at it
[06:53] <ajmitch> dholbach: what's your email you use on trello?
[06:53] <ajmitch> https://trello.com/board/ubuntu-arb-submissions/4fee2215cee295013c0862ba <-- wendar's done some awesome work adding & tagging submissions on there
[06:55] <dholbach_> sorry, fell out of the internet
[06:55] <dholbach_> ajmitch, so yeah, I could put it into the other queue :)
[06:55] <dholbach_> ajmitch, do you think you could help a bit with bug 1019212 and 1019216? :)
[06:56] <ajmitch> 18:53 < ajmitch> thanks for lookign at it
[06:56] <dholbach_> I guess that'd make reviewing for a lot of people a lot easier
[06:56] <ajmitch> 18:53 < ajmitch> dholbach: what's your email you use on trello?
[06:56] <ajmitch> 18:53 < ajmitch> https://trello.com/board/ubuntu-arb-submissions/4fee2215cee295013c0862ba <-- wendar's done some awesome work adding & tagging submissions on there
[06:56] <dholbach> oh wow
[06:56] <dholbach> you trello
[06:56] <dholbach> ajmitch, my id there is danielholbach
[06:57] <ajmitch> invited you
[06:57] <dholbach> sweet
[06:57] <ajmitch> I'll take a look at those bugs
[06:58] <dholbach> and if for the /opt thing you can just mention a couple of examples/rules, I guess I could write the code myself
[06:58]  * ajmitch thought you had the opt check sorted
[06:59] <dholbach> no, it's just translations-outside-opt
[06:59] <dholbach> I get the feeling that quickly does not make use of the most recent DEP5 - I know that's a minor issue, but I guess I'll tell mterry/didrocks later on
[07:02] <PaoloRotolo> Hi all!
[07:02] <dholbach> ajmitch, coolbhavi's ID is bhavanishankarr
[07:04] <ajmitch> thanks, invited him too
[07:04] <dholbach> invited asomething too
[07:04]  * coolbhavi checks his mail
[07:05] <coolbhavi> ajmitch, dholbach joined thanks
[07:06] <dholbach> ajmitch, wikipedia lens should be ready to go, right?
[07:06] <ajmitch> dholbach: afaik, yes
[07:09] <dholbach> alright, I will have to rush off to the dentist, but I'll be back for the Apps Sprint as soon as I can
[07:09]  * ajmitch may or may not be around much this evening, sorry
[07:09] <dholbach> ajmitch, as long as you can add a few comments to the bugs, I'm happy ;-)
[07:09] <didrocks> hey ;)
[07:09] <dholbach> salut didrocks :)
[07:10] <ajmitch> hi didrocks
[07:10] <didrocks> good morning dholbach, ajmitch :)
[07:10] <dholbach> didrocks, do you know where would I find the code for creating debian/copyright in quickly? :)
[07:10] <didrocks> dholbach: it's in python-distutils-extra
[07:10] <dholbach> oh, that's not exactly where I would have expected it :)
[07:11] <didrocks> /usr/bin/python-mkdebian
[07:13] <dholbach> didrocks, do you think it'd be worth SRUing the current version of it to precise?
[07:14] <dholbach> because I just found that many apps submitted weren't using a recent DEP5 (I know, it's a minor issue, but still)
[07:15] <didrocks> dholbach: juts checked the newer versions, yeah, can worth a SRU
[07:16] <coolbhavi> ajmitch, was having a look at simple-gmail-checker but I get an error as http://pastebin.com/jSfdLvXQ while trying to execute.. did I miss something there?
[07:16] <coolbhavi> m running default perl installation on precise
[07:19] <didrocks> libmail-imapclient-perl ?
[07:19] <didrocks> that's what apt-file is telling about a Mail/IMAPClient.pm file
[07:20] <coolbhavi> thanks didrocks
[07:22] <didrocks> yw coolbhavi ;)
[07:23] <dholbach> can somebody please add https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/AppsSprint to the topic?
[07:29] <dholbach> thanks
[07:31] <coolbhavi> does anyone know how to package a single perl script? I think simple-gmail-checker gives you how many unread mails you have in a single click
[07:37] <vibhav> coolbhavi: You can use the debian/install file (probably)
[07:40] <vibhav> coolbhavi: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dother.en.html#install
[07:42] <coolbhavi> vibhav, :) I was thinking of using dh-make-perl
[07:47] <vibhav> coolbhavi: Yeah, that should too work (but I usually use d/install for such stuff)
[07:52] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, Hi! Sorry, the app sprint is for all or for the ARB member only?
[07:52] <vibhav> ^
[07:53] <vibhav> PaoloRotolo: https://trello.com/board/ubuntu-arb-submissions/4fee2215cee295013c0862ba have a look at the apps having a PPA
[07:57] <PaoloRotolo> vibhav, great, what should I do?
[09:24] <dholbach> PaoloRotolo, no no - it's not
[09:25] <dholbach> it's for everybody interested in apps
[09:25] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/AppsSprint might help a bir
[09:25] <dholbach> bit
[09:51] <dholbach> didrocks, I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-distutils-extra/+bug/1020017
[09:51] <didrocks> dholbach: isn't it better to follow the SRU process directly?
[09:51] <didrocks> dholbach: like for each bug writing a test case and such
[09:52] <dholbach> you mean just upload it?
[09:52] <didrocks> yeah
[09:52] <dholbach> test-case
[09:52] <dholbach> hmhm
[09:52] <didrocks> there is no backport needed :)
[09:52] <dholbach> what do you mean?
[09:52] <didrocks> dholbach: if we don't follow the SRU process, the new release team won't ack it
[09:52] <dholbach> ok
[09:52] <didrocks> well, we take the version in quantal
[09:52] <didrocks> just change the versionning to be < quantal one
[09:53] <didrocks> for each bugs, write the test case, regressions, so on
[09:53] <didrocks> and upload that
[09:54] <dholbach> ok ok
[10:10] <dholbach> didrocks, test-cases added
[10:11] <dholbach> I think I'll just change the version in 2.33-1 to 2.33-0ubuntu0.1 or something
[10:11] <didrocks> dholbach: yeah, looking good (but no potential regression stenza). I'm afraid that they will ask you to put some test case for each bugs fixed though
[10:11] <didrocks> dholbach: may be better to ping bdmurray beforehand?
[10:12] <dholbach> didrocks, there are test-cases for each bug fixed
[10:12] <didrocks> dholbach: I meant, adding a precise test and the test case directly in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-distutils-extra/+bug/1002076 for instance
[10:13] <dholbach> ah
[10:13] <didrocks> oh, there is already one in fact, not part of the bug description though
[10:13] <didrocks> but none for instance in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-distutils-extra/+bug/995653
[10:14] <didrocks> dholbach: also, Regression Potential is mandatory now on the SRU/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure
[10:14] <dholbach> ok
[10:14] <didrocks> dholbach: they started to be really picky for precise :)
[10:22] <dholbach> welcome back PaoloRotolo
[10:23] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, thanks :)
[10:25]  * PaoloRotolo is reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/AppsSprint  ;)
[10:25] <dholbach> cool :)
[10:32] <dholbach> didrocks, ok, I think I updated all the bugs in question :)
[10:32]  * dholbach feels very tired now :)
[10:33] <didrocks> dholbach: heh, only 4 bugs, imagine for unity :p
[10:33] <didrocks> \o/
[10:33] <dholbach> maybe another espresso or a pot of tea will help
[10:33]  * didrocks is taking tea as well brb :)
[10:33] <dholbach> I'll just upload the updated version now
[10:33] <dholbach> let's see what happens
[10:33] <dholbach> mhall119_, I'll have a fix for a number of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=arb bugs up in -proposed hopefully soon
[10:41] <dholbach> coolbhavi, if you have a bit of time later on, do you think you could have a look at the apps which are currently up for votes? :-)
[10:46] <dholbach> wendar, stgraber, ajmitch, highvoltage: I might need some help with https://bugs.launchpad.net/arb-lint/+bug/1019212 - do you think you could help me with putting together a list of rules for how the /opt installation should look like? I'm not 100% sure about it, but would be happy to write the code
[10:56] <dholbach> also, do we have rules for files like /etc/apport/crashdb.conf.d/ppasc-crashdb.conf?
[11:01]  * dholbach is reviewing the ppa software center
[11:17]  * dholbach just did the anagram finder too
[11:18]  * coolbhavi reviewed simple-gmail-checker
[11:21] <dholbach> nice :)
[11:23] <coolbhavi> dholbach, there was no way where I could find the access to the code he maintains on the web and when I googled found number of apps with similar functionality
[11:25] <dholbach> it looks like there's only https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/site_media/arb/packages/2012/06/mailchecker_1.pl
[11:26] <coolbhavi> yes but I was looking for a publicly accessible code repository
[11:29] <coolbhavi> was testing out opensinhalese now got an error on execution http://pastebin.com/ZFMEAbCa and app crash so was digging into it
[11:32] <dholbach> do you have python-desktopcouch installed?
[11:34] <coolbhavi> yes
[11:34] <coolbhavi> after installing too I get a crash
[11:34] <dholbach> python-desktopcouch-application maybe?
[11:35] <coolbhavi> its already newest version
[11:39] <coolbhavi> i have the latest version of python-couchdb installed on precise
[11:39] <dholbach> ok, then I don't know
[11:39] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, sorry "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Review/Guidelines" says: "Use a Standards-Version of 3.9.2". Should I update the page with the Precise version (3.9.2)?
[11:39] <dholbach> it should be 3.9.3
[11:39] <dholbach> let me update the guidelines
[11:39] <dholbach> 3.9.2 was in oneiric
[11:40] <PaoloRotolo> yes, sorry, 3.9.3
[11:40] <dholbach> updated :)
[11:40] <dholbach> ... in the guidelines
[11:40] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, ok, thanks"
[11:40] <dholbach> thanks PaoloRotolo
[11:47] <coolbhavi> dholbach, still a crash http://pastebin.com/tD32T9Eq
[13:01] <dholbach> coolbhavi, I'm not exactly sure, maybe didrocks knows
[13:02] <coolbhavi> dholbach, hmm
[13:07]  * didrocks backlogs
[13:08] <didrocks> coolbhavi: do you really need couchdb?
[13:08] <didrocks> I'm think python-couchdb doesn't work anymore on precise
[13:11]  * coolbhavi too thinks of the same 
[13:12] <coolbhavi> I just had a review of the source and found it to be crashing couple of times
[13:15] <mhall119_> dholbach: would you be able to help with a packaging support workshop tomorrow at 1700 UTC?
[13:17] <mhall119> or someone on the ARB who can answer questions about packaging python apps for /opt
[13:20] <dholbach> mhall119, I'm not sure I'm the best person - I just started a few weeks ago and mostly just copied/pasted O:-)
[13:23] <didrocks> I'm think python-couchdb doesn't work anymore on precise
[13:24] <didrocks> oopss wrong monitor :)
[13:27] <mhall119> dholbach: you're a good person to answer general packaging questions though :)
[13:27] <mhall119> I'm going to need both
[14:05] <dholbach> would somebody mind running lp:~dholbach/arb-lint/1019212 on a few apps and see if the output seems to be according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/arb-lint/+bug/1019212?
[14:33] <dholbach> stgraber, how do we deal with usr/share/python/runtime.d/*.rtupdate files?
[14:33] <dholbach> are they OK to go in?
[14:42] <dholbach> didrocks, I found a few submissions now which had .bzr in their source package, also some funny debian/copyright files (the last one where I found it was https://launchpad.net/~simonvermeersch/+archive/journey/+files/journey_12.06.8.dsc)
[14:43] <didrocks> dholbach: quickly remove them, I think they used debuild -S ?
[14:43] <dholbach> no idea
[14:43] <dholbach> I just thought that it might be a general problem since I saw it 2-3 times now
[14:44] <dholbach> maybe that's the --extras bits?
[14:44]  * dholbach has no clue
[14:44] <didrocks> le me recheck
[14:44] <didrocks> let*
[14:45] <didrocks> buildcommand = ["dpkg-buildpackage", "-S", "-I.bzr"]
[14:45] <dholbach> hm
[14:45] <didrocks> this is called by both --extras and release
[14:45] <didrocks> so I really think they used something else
[14:45] <didrocks> can you ask them?
[14:45] <dholbach> I'll have a look if I can find more
[14:45] <didrocks> dholbach: thanks, keep me posted :)
[14:46] <dholbach> https://launchpad.net/~matthias-ruester/+archive/anagram-finder/+files/anagram-finder_0.1-public3ubuntu1.dsc too
[14:47] <dholbach> didrocks, "quickly submitubuntu" maybe?
[14:47] <dholbach> it's what http://developer.ubuntu.com/showdown/ suggests in (4)
[14:48] <didrocks> dholbach: same, calling exactly the same code path
[14:48] <didrocks> anagram-finder_0.1-public3ubuntu1
[14:48] <didrocks> this versionning is not from quickly
[14:48] <didrocks> it would have stripped the public3
[14:48] <didrocks> (created by quickly share)
[14:48] <dholbach> weird
[14:49] <didrocks> yeah
[14:49] <didrocks> just tried on a project
[14:49] <didrocks> and don't reproduce
[14:49] <didrocks> with --extras, release, share or submitubuntu
[14:49] <didrocks> I would be interested in knowing how they are using it :)
[14:52] <dholbach> I think they all used http://developer.ubuntu.com/showdown/
[14:54] <didrocks> dholbach: hum, we do have their email address right? can we ask them how they created the .dsc file?
[14:55] <dholbach> I guess it should be in the changelog somewhere
[15:06] <PaoloRotolo> Hi all!
[15:07] <dholbach> wb PaoloRotolo :)
[15:07] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, thanks :)
[15:12] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, ehm, can I review an App from here: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-app-reviews  :)?
[15:12] <dholbach> sure
[15:12] <PaoloRotolo> "koza" for example?
[15:13] <dholbach> branch any of them, you could try to run arb-lint on them, test-build them, test them and see how they work for you
[15:13] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, ok, thanks. I'm follow the "Check list" on the AppsSprint page.
[15:14] <dholbach> sweet
[15:24] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, bzr faild the build because I don't have the Ravi Vagadia's secret key. It's normal?
[15:24] <PaoloRotolo> failed*
[15:24] <dholbach> yes
[15:24] <dholbach> just do this:         bzr bd -- -us -uc
[15:25] <dholbach> then it will not try to build it
[15:25] <highvoltage> good morning(ish) everyone
[15:25] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, oh, thanks :)
[15:25] <dholbach> hey highvoltage!
[15:25] <dholbach> PaoloRotolo, I'll update the docs
[15:25] <PaoloRotolo> highvoltage, Good morning :)
[15:25] <PaoloRotolo> :D
[15:26] <highvoltage> dholbach: will comment on that arb lint bug a bit later if I can think of anything. I have it open in a tab, at least :)
[15:26] <dholbach> highvoltage, if you have a bit of time today, do you think you could try out lp:~dholbach/arb-lint/1019212 on an app or two and see if the file list and the output about /opt stuff is what you expect? :)
[15:26] <highvoltage> hey PaoloRotolo
[15:26] <dholbach> highvoltage, excellent :)
[15:26] <dholbach> highvoltage, to me it looked alright - the only thing I wasn't sure about was usr/share/python/runtime.d/*.rtupdate
[15:27]  * highvoltage isn't either, tbph
[15:28] <dholbach> I wonder if these files are absolutely necessary
[15:28] <dholbach> let me try something
[15:29] <dholbach> ah no, this doesn't fix it - nevermind - that's one thing I'd be interested to find out
[15:30] <dholbach> also about the /etc/apport/crashdb.conf.d/*-crashdb.conf files
[15:31] <dholbach> highvoltage, I'll add it to the bug
[15:57] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, I have this error: W: This package does not use DEP-5, which provides a machine-readable  debian/copyright file.
[15:57] <PaoloRotolo> I can't fix it...
[15:57] <dholbach> it's just a warning - that's not too bad :)
[15:57] <PaoloRotolo> This is the copyright before: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071508/
[15:57] <PaoloRotolo> and this after my fix: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071507/
[16:00] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, ↑
[16:01] <dholbach> PaoloRotolo, you might want to keep "Ravi Vagadia <ravirdv@gmail.com>" as an "Upstream-Contact"
[16:02] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, oh, yes
[16:02] <PaoloRotolo> but this don't solve the issue
[16:02] <PaoloRotolo> doesn't* :/
[16:02] <dholbach> did you save the file and then reran arb-lint?
[16:03] <dholbach> ah
[16:03] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, yes...
[16:03] <dholbach> use http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/ as the URL
[16:08] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, no... It doesn't work...
[16:08] <PaoloRotolo> [and sorry again for my bad english :( ]
[16:10] <dholbach> no, it's fine :)
[16:11] <PaoloRotolo> paolo@voyager:~/Sviluppo/koza/koza$ arb-lint
[16:11] <PaoloRotolo> W: This package does not use DEP-5, which provides a machine-readable
[16:11] <PaoloRotolo>    debian/copyright file. You might want to review
[16:11] <PaoloRotolo>    http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/copyright-format/1.0/ to
[16:11] <PaoloRotolo>    find out how to accomplish it.
[16:12] <dholbach> PaoloRotolo, sorry, my fault - I just fixed it in arb-lint
[16:13] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, ahahah, ok, no problem :D
[16:13] <dholbach> but http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/ should be fine
[16:13] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, yep
[16:17] <dholbach> hey mterry
[16:18] <mterry> dholbach, hello!
[16:18] <dholbach> didrocks, mterry, do you know if these .rtupdate files are strictly necessary?
[16:19] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, shall I update the fix on a my branch?
[16:19] <dholbach> PaoloRotolo, sure
[16:19] <didrocks> dholbach: I don't think they are, but I'm not sure as well what they are for. I asked barry about it last week and he even doesn't know
[16:19] <mterry> dholbach, no...  I'm not even confident I know what they do.
[16:19] <didrocks> so if barry doesn't know, who can? :)
[16:19] <dholbach> I'll ping barry again :)
[16:19] <mterry> dholbach, what creates them?
[16:19] <dholbach> ah, he's not around
[16:20] <dholbach> mterry, dget https://launchpad.net/~sbreese/+archive/gr8s/+files/gr8s_12.06.11.dsc and try to build it
[16:20] <dholbach> mterry, but what exactly creates it I'm unsure about
[16:24] <dholbach> didrocks, mterry, dh_python2 does, in quantal
[16:25] <dholbach> in precise it doesn't
[16:25] <dholbach> I just overrode dh_python in debian/rules and it didn't get created
[16:25] <mterry> dholbach, I built it fine.  Was I supposed to see an error about .rtupdate?
[16:25] <dholbach> mterry, did you try in quantal?
[16:26] <mterry> dholbach, yeah
[16:26] <dholbach> it builds fine, but the .deb contains a .rtupdate file
[16:26] <dholbach> (outside /opt)
[16:26] <mterry> dholbach, ah
[16:26] <dholbach> which is why I asked
[16:26] <dholbach> I wrote a small tool to help review arb apps
[16:26] <dholbach> and it pointed out the file
[16:26] <mterry> ah right
[16:27] <mterry> yeah, it looks like it's a python dpkg trigger
[16:27] <mterry> To update/clean .pyc files
[16:28] <dholbach>   * dh_python2:
[16:28] <dholbach>     - generates rtupdate scripts for private directories that compile files
[16:28] <dholbach>       from given package only, add --compile-all to dh_python2's call if you
[16:28] <dholbach>       want the old behaviour (i.e. compile also files (plugins?) provided by
[16:28] <dholbach>       other packages, which do not use a helper/bytecompile them)
[16:28] <dholbach> python-defaults (2.7.2-5)
[16:28] <mterry> dholbach, I'd say it's OK, but not necessary.  ARB can say whether it's awful or not
[16:28] <dholbach> but it still does not explain to me if we really need it
[16:28] <mterry> dholbach, I don't believe it's necessary.  If python files aren't compiled, they will just be slightly slower
[16:28] <dholbach> the ARB are likely going to ask the TB about it
[16:29] <dholbach> thanks didrocks, mterry
[16:30] <mterry> dholbach, it could be handled like gsettings schemas and just compiled by the packaging itself without a trigger
[16:31] <mterry> dholbach, (normally schemas are compiled by a trigger, but since we don't install them in the normal place, quickly for example will generate packaging that compiles it manually)
[16:31] <dholbach> aha!
[16:31] <dholbach> I can't say I have much of an opinion, I just noticed it earlier
[16:31] <didrocks> the rt-update file triggering the triger?
[16:32] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, sorry, one more question: I've tried to install the .deb file, but koza doesn't work...
[16:32] <PaoloRotolo> paolo@voyager:/opt/extras.ubuntu.com/koza/bin$ ./koza
[16:32] <PaoloRotolo> Traceback (most recent call last):
[16:32] <PaoloRotolo>   File "./koza", line 45, in <module>
[16:32] <PaoloRotolo>     import koza
[16:32] <PaoloRotolo>   File "/opt/extras.ubuntu.com/koza/koza/__init__.py", line 25, in <module>
[16:32] <PaoloRotolo>     from PySide.QtGui import *
[16:32] <PaoloRotolo> ImportError: No module named QtGui
[16:33] <dholbach> try: sudo apt-get install python-pyside.qtgui
[16:33] <dholbach> and install again
[16:33] <dholbach> err
[16:33] <dholbach> try to run it again
[16:33] <mterry> didrocks, yeah I believe, without reading the dpkg trigger file
[16:34] <dholbach> PaoloRotolo, ^ - it could be that the package is missing this in its Depends: line
[16:35] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, ok, I'll add python-pyside.qtgui to Depends
[16:36] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, nope, I've the same error
[16:36] <dholbach> the exact two same lines?
[16:36] <dholbach>      from PySide.QtGui import *
[16:36] <dholbach>  ImportError: No module named QtGui
[16:36] <PaoloRotolo> oh, no... Isn't the same error, sorry
[16:36] <PaoloRotolo> Traceback (most recent call last):
[16:36] <PaoloRotolo>   File "./koza", line 45, in <module>
[16:36] <PaoloRotolo>     import koza
[16:36] <PaoloRotolo>   File "/opt/extras.ubuntu.com/koza/koza/__init__.py", line 27, in <module>
[16:36] <PaoloRotolo>     from koza import KozaWindow
[16:36] <PaoloRotolo>   File "/opt/extras.ubuntu.com/koza/koza/KozaWindow.py", line 24, in <module>
[16:37] <PaoloRotolo>     from PySide.QtDeclarative import *
[16:37] <PaoloRotolo> ImportError: No module named QtDeclarative
[16:37] <dholbach> install python-pyside.qtdeclarative probably :)
[16:38] <PaoloRotolo> ok, I'm installing qtuitools too
[16:39] <PaoloRotolo> Now it works :D!
[16:40] <PaoloRotolo> ok, python-pyside.qtgui, python-pyside.qtdeclarative and python-pyside.qtuitools added to Depends
[16:44] <dholbach> thanks a bunch
[16:44] <dholbach> that's great
[16:55] <dholbach> PaoloRotolo, there should be a new arb-lint version available now - I hope it fixes the issue you found :)
[16:57] <mhall119> can someone explain why I get emails for an app being submitted (to app-review-board ML), but on clicking the link for the app I get a 404?
[16:57] <mhall119> this has happened many times since I've been watching the ML
[16:58] <dholbach> mhall119, which app is it?
[16:58] <mhall119> dholbach: most recently it was clchat https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1128/
[16:59] <dholbach> interesting
[16:59] <mhall119> also sometimes I get a permission error
[16:59] <dholbach> maybe the mail is sent out before everything is "processed"?
[16:59] <mhall119> maybe...
[16:59] <dholbach> the permission error might be because an app (most likely media content, so .pdf files) were moved over to the "commercial queue", because the ARB does not deal with them
[17:00] <dholbach> the latter sounds like a process issue, which myapps could fix for us
[17:01] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, here it is: https://code.launchpad.net/~paolorotolo/ubuntu-app-reviews/koza/+merge/113077   ;)
[17:02] <dholbach> PaoloRotolo, if you go to the page of the app, you can go to the "feedback" tab of the page and mention to the app author the changes you made and a link to the proposal
[17:03] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, good, thanks!
[17:03] <dholbach> thanks for your work on this
[17:03] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, thanks you for the patience :P
[17:03] <dholbach> no no
[17:03] <dholbach> thanks for your help!
[17:04] <PaoloRotolo> :)
[17:04] <dholbach> alright, now it's time for me to call it a day and find some dinner
[17:04] <dholbach> have a great rest of your day everyone!
[17:04] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, thanks, you too
[17:16] <PaoloRotolo> uhm
[17:16] <PaoloRotolo> Access forbidden
[17:16] <PaoloRotolo> You just tried to access a feature which you don't have permission to use.
[17:16] <PaoloRotolo> Only the owner of an application can do that.