| bkerensa | cjohnston: http://devxdev.com/utv <-- Ubuntu TV :) | 00:54 |
|---|---|---|
| cjohnston | you should buy me one | 00:55 |
| bkerensa | cjohnston: lol ;p | 00:59 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:40 |
| nigelb | Morning dholbach | 06:43 |
| dholbach | hi nigelb | 06:43 |
| nigelb | How was your WE? | 06:43 |
| dholbach | great - how was yours? :) | 06:46 |
| nigelb | Not bad. Managed to survive :D | 06:49 |
| nigelb | Kinda tiring | 06:49 |
| === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach | ||
| jussi | anyone know of a tool like trello, but that I can run locally? | 07:08 |
| popey | jussi, https://github.com/oo7ph/Trello-Clone/ ? | 07:15 |
| jussi | popey: that doesnt seem to be quite what Im lookign for... unless I understand incorrectly | 07:30 |
| popey | dunno, was something I saw when I looked for a free trello | 07:30 |
| popey | was a link i had in my remembered browser thingy | 07:30 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 07:56 |
| jussi | morning czajkowski | 08:01 |
| czajkowski | jussi: hey how was the kde event | 08:06 |
| jussi | czajkowski: Akademy was good - although I didnt have much time there | 08:06 |
| jussi | just about 6 or 7 hours | 08:06 |
| jussi | was wonderful to catch up with people | 08:07 |
| cjohnston | mornin | 11:55 |
| === fenris_ is now known as Guest20501 | ||
| === mhall119_ is now known as mhall119 | ||
| dholbach | hey jono | 15:09 |
| jono | hey dholbach | 15:18 |
| jono | sorry dholbach, can you give me a few mins | 15:18 |
| dholbach | sure | 15:18 |
| jono | dholbach, been delayed | 15:18 |
| jono | dholbach, ok, all set? | 15:30 |
| jono | dholbach, sorry for the delay | 15:30 |
| dholbach | sure | 15:30 |
| dholbach | let's go | 15:31 |
| jono | dholbach, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/99ab3d466071d33660653d33212e1dfafa4a14e5?authuser=0&hl=en-US | 15:32 |
| balloons | jcastrim askubuntu.com seems broken on the ff beta in quantal | 15:47 |
| balloons | jcastro, ^^ | 15:48 |
| mhall119 | balloons: isn't it more likely that the beta browser in the alpha release is the one that is broken? | 15:49 |
| balloons | mhall119, NEVER! | 15:49 |
| balloons | :-) | 15:49 |
| jcastro | heh | 15:51 |
| jcastro | not much I can do about that balloons | 15:51 |
| balloons | jcastro, you can't fix my broken software ;-( | 16:06 |
| jcastro | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/gwoffice-integrates-google-docs-with-the-ubuntu-desktop | 16:11 |
| jcastro | this is the coolest submission so far imo | 16:11 |
| balloons | jcastro, that's awesome | 16:16 |
| jono | mhall119, all set? | 17:01 |
| mhall119 | jono: yup | 17:03 |
| jono | mhall119, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/6eab3c48f940de3385ac9b73a101a45ecf7c0689?authuser=0&hl=en-US | 17:03 |
| mhall119 | w 48 | 17:03 |
| dholbach | alright my friends - time to call it a day | 17:04 |
| dholbach | see you all tomorrow | 17:04 |
| cjohnston | g'nite dholbach | 17:04 |
| dholbach | bye :) | 17:04 |
| jussi | jono: congratulations... I think I am now officially worried about what the poor little un will | 17:40 |
| jussi | b ecome :P | 17:40 |
| jono | thanks jussi! :-) | 17:42 |
| jussi | hehe, in all serious, congratulations and I hope it all goes well :) | 17:42 |
| jono | balloons, about set? | 18:30 |
| balloons | indeed | 18:30 |
| jono | balloons, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/d6dcfb382049488901955b9ff4411a42f8b4ff5a?authuser=0&hl=en-US | 18:32 |
| === philipballew_ is now known as philipballew | ||
| IdleOne | I'm curious, jono posts the links to the google hangouts. Does that mean anybody is welcome to join in/listen in? | 19:03 |
| cjohnston | I was thinkin the same thing | 19:03 |
| jono | IdleOne, no, these are private meetings | 19:03 |
| IdleOne | I see. | 19:03 |
| IdleOne | shame. | 19:03 |
| jono | IdleOne, I keep my 1-on-1 calls with the team private so we are free discuss any matters | 19:04 |
| IdleOne | it would be interesting to sit in, without interrupting of course, to a team meeting sometime | 19:04 |
| jono | IdleOne, sure, maybe we can do this for one of our Wed meetings | 19:04 |
| jono | our team meetings | 19:05 |
| jcastro | \o/ | 19:05 |
| jcastro | insta-transparency via google hangouts, ftw. | 19:05 |
| IdleOne | jono: understandable, there may be subjects that you or one of the team does not want public. | 19:05 |
| jono | jcastro, well, yes and no | 19:05 |
| jono | transparency is always good, but sometimes a team needs to bond in a private environment | 19:05 |
| cjohnston | it has to render so it's semi-insta hehe | 19:05 |
| jono | which is the purpose of the wed meetings | 19:05 |
| jono | the Tues IRC meetings are the public meetings | 19:05 |
| cjohnston | what you guys do in private.... | 19:05 |
| jono | cjohnston, we talk about various things | 19:06 |
| jono | often company-confidential content | 19:06 |
| cjohnston | not where I was headed :-P | 19:06 |
| jono | team-related stuff etc | 19:06 |
| jcastro | jono: right, I meant withing reason, we should certainly keep my getting yelled at private | 19:06 |
| jcastro | :p | 19:06 |
| jono | lulz | 19:06 |
| jono | CASTRO! | 19:06 |
| jono | CASTRO! | 19:06 |
| jono | STOP IT! | 19:06 |
| jono | :-) | 19:06 |
| cjohnston | maybe do the tuesday meetings on hangouts on air so that we can see faces, give your updates, and then answer any questions that come from irc | 19:06 |
| jcastro | "LOL I CAN PIPE DEADMAUS RIGHT INTO THE MEETING." | 19:06 |
| IdleOne | jono: I would expect that a public team meeting would be somewhat homogenized :) | 19:07 |
| snap-l | Nah, I think you all should do the meetings completely in public | 19:07 |
| jcastro | cjohnston: yeah that's exactly what I want to do, but some people like IRC. | 19:07 |
| jono | cjohnston, I would prefer that | 19:07 |
| jcastro | some people who are old school | 19:07 |
| jono | personally I don't like IRC meetings | 19:07 |
| jcastro | and I wouldn't want to shame their old school ness | 19:07 |
| jcastro | his name is Daniel | 19:07 |
| snap-l | so people can realize there's a lot of boring shit that occurs during these meetings that they really don't care about. | 19:07 |
| jono | snap-l, indeed | 19:07 |
| cjohnston | we do ours on air, but we don't do the 'live ask questions part' | 19:07 |
| * jcastro shoves dholbach under a bus | 19:07 | |
| pleia2 | it's tricky to grep through hangouts afterwards to find thing ;) | 19:07 |
| pleia2 | things | 19:07 |
| jono | pleia2, this is true | 19:08 |
| jono | the logging of IRC is handy | 19:08 |
| IdleOne | jono: so why not do the irc meeting in hangout and record it, that way the logs can still be published | 19:08 |
| snap-l | Just have jono do a transcription. ;) | 19:08 |
| cjohnston | well, someone could post on their blog the hangout | 19:08 |
| jono | I wonder whether the team member summaries are particularly useful | 19:08 |
| jcastro | hmm | 19:08 |
| jcastro | hey | 19:08 |
| jono | IdleOne, eh? | 19:08 |
| IdleOne | ah, pleia2 answered my question | 19:08 |
| cjohnston | to an extent.. | 19:08 |
| jcastro | how about, video for the meeting, but publishing notes for grepness | 19:08 |
| IdleOne | that sounds good too | 19:08 |
| jono | jcastro, who will write the notes? | 19:08 |
| jono | jcastro, well volunteered! | 19:09 |
| pleia2 | humans aren't so good at writing meeting notes | 19:09 |
| jcastro | haha | 19:09 |
| * IdleOne goes back to idle | 19:09 | |
| jono | pleia2, agreed | 19:09 |
| jcastro | I'm much better at taking notes than pasting in IRC sentences | 19:09 |
| cjohnston | jono: you mis-wrote your sentence as a question, "jcastro will write the notes" | 19:09 |
| jono | put it this way, I am not writing meeting notes, if you want to do it, jcastro, go ahead :-) | 19:09 |
| jono | cjohnston, :-) | 19:09 |
| cjohnston | I'd rather read not so good human written notes than IRC logs | 19:09 |
| pleia2 | IRC meetings (or notes) I can skim through at work, if everything moves to hangouts I'll neer watch the videos (can't do it quickly, can't do it at work) | 19:09 |
| jcastro | hey, all my TODO is public, I have a living notetaker | 19:09 |
| jono | maybe the community can take notes? | 19:10 |
| jono | so we do the hangout and others can take notes? | 19:10 |
| jono | the team will busy enough preparing their summaries without taking notes | 19:10 |
| cjohnston | I think notes would quicly fall away.. | 19:10 |
| IdleOne | agreed ^ | 19:10 |
| jono | cjohnston, very possibly | 19:10 |
| jcastro | I am wondering if people even read the existing notes | 19:10 |
| jcastro | I wouldn't | 19:10 |
| jcastro | "jorge and jono arguing about metal, daniel rolls eyes." | 19:11 |
| cjohnston | maybe make the summaries the notes.. same thing as IRC, but slightly different... then maybe if there are important questions that get asked, add them | 19:11 |
| jcastro | right, more of a summary than a point for point. | 19:11 |
| jcastro | "The team talked about the app contest at 4:45 into the discussion. Main points, foo, bar, baz." | 19:11 |
| cjohnston | compiling all of the summaries wouldn't be too much work | 19:11 |
| jono | I like the idea of doing hangouts | 19:11 |
| jono | and I think of folks can take note and publish them for the community then this will work | 19:12 |
| jono | if the community cares about notes, then I am sure our community can self organize to take them | 19:12 |
| balloons | jono et la, people do this for podcasts quite successfully | 19:12 |
| jono | particularly if G+ is considered more interesting than IRC | 19:12 |
| pleia2 | mhall119: I'm going to be out of town this week (actually leave tuesday night, but super busy until then), can you join #ubuntu-classroom-backstage when you have the schedule for workshops available and nudge people to get it added to the calendar? | 19:12 |
| jono | also, we would still record the hangouts on youtube | 19:12 |
| jcastro | I am kind of surprised google doesn't do auto closed captioning, etc. | 19:12 |
| jcastro | that would solve the problem nicely | 19:12 |
| jono | jcastro, indeed | 19:12 |
| czajkowski | this is what one of our squads do, a public summary of their meeting http://codesinger.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/yellow-squad-weekly-retrospective.html | 19:13 |
| jono | ok, so next week lets maybe try this | 19:13 |
| jono | tomorrow I needed to cancel the meeting for another one | 19:13 |
| balloons | jcastro, http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/automatic-captions-in-youtube.html | 19:14 |
| jono | brb, lunch | 19:14 |
| jcastro | I am for/pro anything that doesn't include the wiki | 19:16 |
| balloons | pretty funny results: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idfnk68Eo28.. watch it with cc on :-) | 19:16 |
| jcastro | bkerensa: ping | 19:17 |
| jcastro | bkerensa: please check your hp account and check to see if it's enabled/free | 19:17 |
| jcastro | also, lmk if they sent you a mail | 19:17 |
| czajkowski | jcastro: you're so anti irc/wiki though you're the other extreme :( | 19:18 |
| jcastro | I'm not anti wiki/irc, I'm just pro better tools. :) | 19:19 |
| snap-l | Wikis are a pain | 19:19 |
| czajkowski | jcastro: anti :) | 19:19 |
| snap-l | They're out of date the moment you hit submit | 19:19 |
| jcastro | balloons: hey can you check your HP Cloud account? | 19:30 |
| jcastro | the one you mailed me the creds with | 19:30 |
| jcastro | and see if you can use it and the stuff says 0 for cost. | 19:30 |
| balloons | sur | 19:30 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: nope I am not enabled | 19:31 |
| jcastro | bkerensa: k | 19:33 |
| balloons | jcastro, were should I see "free"? | 19:33 |
| jcastro | I think it should just not be charging you | 19:33 |
| jcastro | sigh, I was hoping they would send everyone emails | 19:34 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: they have a chat agent and I asked him to check their backend and he said that my account bills at the normal rate | 19:35 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: he said something about if this is marked a free account its noted in the billing | 19:35 |
| balloons | jcastro, I can spawn instances, heh | 19:35 |
| jcastro | I am pretty sure they work | 19:35 |
| jcastro | it's whether they charge you that I am not sure of | 19:35 |
| jcastro | imbrandon: and yours shows up as free? | 19:36 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: ahh the guy just check he said http://h20a64e3977ba79ad14ba0fcf39ac26a4.cdn.hpcloudsvc.com/ABM_Request.docx | 19:37 |
| bkerensa | that I would need to fill that out first | 19:37 |
| jcastro | we've done all that already | 19:38 |
| imbrandon | jcastro: yup so far | 19:38 |
| imbrandon | jcastro: it said 67$ charge -67$ adjustment | 19:38 |
| imbrandon | jcastro: ^^ | 19:38 |
| jcastro | ok, that's what I thought | 19:39 |
| jcastro | ok so they tell me if we have any problems to just ping them | 19:40 |
| jcastro | and they went off of our list | 19:40 |
| jcastro | so I'll just send you all emails | 19:40 |
| bkerensa | huh | 19:41 |
| * bkerensa will spawn up a instance and run it | 19:41 | |
| jono | mhall119, what was that Django page you linked me to about manage.py commands again? | 19:47 |
| jono | mhall119, nm, got it | 19:49 |
| jono | thanks | 19:49 |
| jcastro | balloons: lmk when you've got some awesome QA thing running on it doing Science(tm) for Mankind | 19:52 |
| balloons | jcastro, yes I can mess with it this week if it's ready to roll | 19:52 |
| balloons | thanks for helping get this rolling! | 19:53 |
| mhall119 | jono: np | 19:55 |
| jono | mhall119, do you have to do anything special to register a subcommand? | 19:59 |
| jono | other than ensuring the app is in INSTALLED_APPs | 19:59 |
| jono | and creating the dirs in the app dir? | 20:00 |
| jono | management/commands | 20:00 |
| cjohnston | is there an __init__.py in the management and commands directories? | 20:00 |
| jono | cjohnston, that was what I was missing | 20:00 |
| jono | thanks cjohnston | 20:00 |
| cjohnston | :-) | 20:01 |
| mhall119 | what cjohnston said :) | 20:04 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: so Josee reached out to me and Brian Murray about a Q+A.... Brian asked me what this was about ? | 20:05 |
| bkerensa | Do you know by chance? :P | 20:05 |
| jcastro | probably ubuntu on air | 20:05 |
| jcastro | ugh | 20:42 |
| jcastro | is it really 4:45 already | 20:42 |
| jcastro | my inbox looks like a car wreck | 20:43 |
| bkerensa | filtering for the win? | 20:43 |
| bkerensa | :D | 20:43 |
| jcastro | too bad filtering doesn't respond for me either | 20:44 |
| bkerensa | true | 20:45 |
| mhall119 | bkerensa: we're doing some Q+A support workshops tomorrow | 21:00 |
| bkerensa | mhall119: that sounds fun :) | 21:00 |
| mhall119 | http://developer.ubuntu.com/showdown/workshops/ | 21:00 |
| mhall119 | it's for the last week of the app developer showdown | 21:00 |
| bkerensa | cool I will pass it along to people :) | 21:01 |
| jono | mhall119, does this make sense: | 21:16 |
| jono | i = Failures(failuretype=FailureTypes.objects.get(id=id), date=item_date, share_id=item_share_id, user=item_username, accom_id=item_accom_id, summary=item_summary) | 21:16 |
| jono | I am getting an integrity error on the failuretype field | 21:17 |
| jono | that it can't be NULL | 21:17 |
| jono | my get() returns the correct object | 21:17 |
| mhall119 | jono: try failuretype_id=id instead | 21:23 |
| * mhall119 assumes you're calling i.save() whhich throws the integrity error | 21:24 | |
| jono | I am calling i.save() | 21:25 |
| jono | mhall119, what is the issue here? | 21:26 |
| jono | the value I pass to failuretype seems to be the correct type | 21:26 |
| jono | let me pastebin it | 21:26 |
| mhall119 | please | 21:26 |
| jono | mhall119, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1072056/ | 21:27 |
| mhall119 | jono: can you pastebin (or link to) your models.py? | 21:28 |
| jono | mhall119, sure | 21:29 |
| jono | mhall119, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1072059/ | 21:29 |
| mhall119 | and 'f' is not None? | 21:30 |
| jono | mhall119, f is: | 21:30 |
| jono | mhall119, the type is: <class 'dashboard.models.FailureTypes'> | 21:31 |
| jono | when I just print f it says 'worker' which is what it is | 21:31 |
| mhall119 | and what's the exact error? | 21:32 |
| jono | django.db.utils.IntegrityError: dashboard_failures.type may not be NULL | 21:33 |
| mhall119 | hmmm | 21:34 |
| mhall119 | did you change from 'type' to 'failuretype' in your Failures model by any chance? | 21:34 |
| mhall119 | I mean, did you rename a field in Failures from 'type' to 'failuretype'? | 21:35 |
| jono | mhall119, hmmm not sure | 21:36 |
| jono | I will recreate my db | 21:36 |
| mhall119 | if so, and if you did this after running syncdb, the problem is that your database still has the old column name, you'll need to drop the table and re-syncdb it (or drop the whole database and re-syncdb it) | 21:36 |
| jono | aha! | 21:37 |
| jono | now it works | 21:37 |
| jono | but now I get this error when I look at the failures table in the admin: | 21:38 |
| jono | coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, datetime.datetime found | 21:38 |
| jono | it looks like my datetime is not getting formatted correctly | 21:38 |
| jono | as I am passing it a string | 21:38 |
| jono | mhall119, do you know how to convert the string into a datetime it will be happy with? | 21:38 |
| mhall119 | you'll need to convert your argument from a string to a datetime | 21:38 |
| popey | jono, when my son was born, I solicited names from #lugradio | 21:39 |
| mhall119 | jono: http://docs.python.org/library/datetime.html#datetime.datetime.strptime | 21:39 |
| jono | popey, heh | 21:40 |
| mhall119 | use http://docs.python.org/library/datetime.html#strftime-strptime-behavior to determine what your format string should be (it'll depend on what you want people passing on the commandline) | 21:40 |
| mhall119 | popey: and we're all happy that you didn't name him "GNU/MicrosoftSucks Pope" | 21:41 |
| popey | hah | 21:41 |
| popey | well, i did tell them that given my surname is Pope, I wanted his initials to be something nerdy | 21:41 |
| popey | like http, ftp... | 21:41 |
| mhall119 | :P | 21:41 |
| popey | with p as the last initial there's a lot of scope | 21:42 |
| popey | he's SMP | 21:42 |
| popey | my wife didn't know this was orchestrated | 21:42 |
| mhall119 | I think jono can one-up you on cheesy naming options | 21:42 |
| popey | I'm ARP, so me and him and nice and nerdy together :D | 21:42 |
| jono | mhall119, what is the format I pass to strptime? | 21:42 |
| popey | mhall119, managed to get my lens working :D | 21:43 |
| popey | going to enter the showdown \o/ | 21:43 |
| popey | competition looks strong! | 21:43 |
| jono | oh I see I think | 21:45 |
| mhall119 | jono: it depends on what you're sending on the commandline | 21:46 |
| jono | mhall119, got it working | 21:47 |
| jono | thanks | 21:47 |
| mhall119 | if you're sending "2012-07-02" you want "%Y-%m-%d" | 21:47 |
| jono | mhall119, odd I am still getting an error in the admin | 21:51 |
| jono | Caught TypeError while rendering: coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, datetime.datetime found | 21:55 |
| daker | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9910535/django-coercing-to-unicode-need-string-or-buffer-datetime-date-found | 22:04 |
| jono | daker, I fixed it, thanks! | 22:07 |
| daker | :) | 22:07 |
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