[06:00] morning all [06:15] hi dPhi [06:21] Kilos, HI [06:21] I forgot my nickserv password [06:22] lol [06:22] password are such a pain [06:23] good morning [06:23] morning sflr [06:42] morning superfly [06:43] Morning [06:48] hi all [06:54] morning Kilos [06:54] hi charl, superfly [06:55] hi sflr, etc [06:56] hi superfly [06:56] hi sflr [06:56] hi charl [06:58] hi charl [07:04] hi sakhi [07:05] hi Kilos [07:06] hehe this is like a mornings ritual [07:08] lol [07:08] Maaz: coffee on [07:08] * Maaz washes some mugs [07:12] Coffee's ready for charl! [07:12] Maaz, coffee please [07:12] Kilos: There isn't a pot on [07:12] eish [07:13] * Kilos must learn to type faster === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg [07:32] hiya maiatoday [07:33] ty for all the effort you put in for the community [07:33] np Kilos [07:33] Sorry things aren't happening as quickly as they could [07:35] hi maiatoday! [07:35] np maiatoday you also have a life you know and lotsa things dont happen overnight [07:42] hey SmilyBorg [07:42] Hi there [07:46] how is everyone doing today? [07:47] ok ty [07:47] not as good as in durbs [07:47] hehe [07:48] been nice and warm here [07:48] actually got sunburnt at the pride parade on Saturday [07:50] hi superfly [07:53] yo NeVeR_ [07:53] yo yo [08:17] hi Kerbero [08:17] oh the other one [08:17] hi Kerbero[dsp] [08:18] dag [08:18] hello [08:18] dis nie 'n goeie teken dat die ander een getimeout het nie [08:19] hellloooooo kbmonkey [08:19] the internet is very sick [08:19] how goes it? i haven't been on line in over a month. eek. [08:20] we all ok ty kbmonkey and you suitcase dweller [08:20] dont forget meeting next monday night [08:21] im a bit let down by shotwell, that photo manager ubuntu uses now :/ [08:22] what do you do with it? [08:22] and i see picasa has been dropped by google :( [08:22] i only use it fro cropping [08:22] picasa for linux* [08:23] oh its for a friend. [08:24] that doesnt answer what you want shotwell to do [08:24] to browse your photos as they exist in their folders [08:25] shotwell does not show folders [08:25] ah [08:25] it only shows dates [08:25] lol [08:25] you can browse photos just by opening one and then ticking next [08:25] you know what i have not had in a long time kilos [08:25] without shotwell [08:26] coffee from maaz [08:26] Maaz, coffee on [08:26] * Maaz washes some mugs [08:26] Maaz, coffee plz [08:26] kbmonkey: *blink* [08:26] Maaz, coffee [08:26] kbmonkey: *blink* [08:26] dont be lazy type please [08:27] oh yes Kilos you remember that greeter bot, i did finish it at the time. was in testing! [08:27] Maaz, coffee please. [08:27] kbmonkey: Yessir [08:27] ah that sounds good. can it be integrateds with maaz [08:27] then i can rest [08:28] i could not submit the code to ibid because I had issues with bazaar, the app used to submit code :p [08:28] ai [08:28] yes it integrates with Maaz, indeed! [08:29] just dont kill maaz [08:29] magewill also like something like that for gc methinks [08:29] hey, perhaps i could get it to magespawn and he can try it [08:30] Coffee's ready for Kilos and kbmonkey! [08:30] Maaz, ty [08:30] You are welcome Kilos [08:30] how big is it kbmonkey ? [08:32] Maaz, thank you my vriend! [08:32] no problem, kbmonkey [08:32] not much Kilos, its a couple of lines of text. [08:33] maybe i can get a bot and play with it here by me as well [08:33] okay maybe a couple of kilobytes, but not much [08:33] havent looked how big ibid is yet [08:33] oh ibid itself, is larger. not sure though [08:34] can it be mailed? [08:34] i mean to play with the intgration bit [08:34] ibid has to be installed, the code i wrote can certainly be emailed. [08:34] please mail it to me [08:34] i go see how big ibid is [08:35] i don't have it on me today, Kilos. sorry :) [08:35] np, when you can [08:35] just not in a months time [08:35] hehe [08:36] how come you been showing online for a week or so [08:36] its on my pc in pmb, either this weekend or next weekend [08:36] thats great [08:36] i have a remote shell account, which logs into irc. so i show as logged in. that is why. [08:37] ibid is 4.8m [08:37] so ill get it [08:37] magespawn probably has ibid already, [08:37] yes its here [08:37] gc, hi [08:37] good morning [08:38] so i don't see why you should get it unless you develop for it :) [08:38] i also wanna play sometimes [08:39] can try squeeze it into mxit [08:39] hehe [08:39] you should, writing programs is fun [08:39] its a working bot already isnt it [08:39] yes it is [08:39] just like Maaz our robot friend [08:40] hows work going kbmonkey ? [08:41] good good [08:42] where there's coffee, its good [08:44] lol [08:45] aslong as its not plastic coffee [08:45] checkers no name brand kinda thing [08:47] it is :( [08:48] * kbmonkey rethinks life [08:49] i am glad this ssh allowed me to get on to irc :) [08:50] yeah we kinda missed your smiling mug [08:51] :> [08:52] @>~~~~ a rose for you [08:52] hehe [08:58] im going back to grind the stone oom Kilos [08:58] ok kbmonkey enjoy [08:58] i will try pop in again soon, i will bring biscuits [08:58] ty lad [08:58] be good [08:59] always :> [08:59] haha [10:29] gc wb [10:29] Thanks Kilos It was a bit of a struggle getting here. [10:50] Maaz, whats for lunch [10:50] I'm sure Kentucky would go down well Kilos [10:50] yum [11:29] yo inetpro you didnt even say good morning this afternoon [11:35] eh, good evening Kilos [11:35] hahaha dag se my vriend [11:44] just reading about the t-shirt emails. cant we have some printed and posted? :) [11:45] inetpro, my bot praat vanself afrikaans [11:45] you winning sflr [11:45] ? [11:47] yes Kilos, won R10 on the lotto. haha [11:47] haha great stuff [11:51] i go checkup on sheep [12:46] Howdy all [12:50] hiya magespawn [12:50] maybe got some good news for ya [12:50] the monkey gonna sent us the greeting bot script to try with an ibid [12:50] Cool [12:51] i got one toooo [12:51] yay [12:52] Busy trying to get my kubuntu machine to start with another desktop like gnome [12:52] just install gnome-desktop i think [12:52] was ubuntu-desktop on 11.04 [12:53] you on 12.04 hey [12:54] Its is there as an option when you start, but does not give any menu bars etc just a blank screen [12:54] Xcfe works fine though. [12:54] 12.04? [12:56] Not actually sure. [12:56] hehe [12:57] what do these guys say? [12:57] http://askubuntu.com/questions/141149/can-i-switch-between-desktop-environments-using-terminal [13:00] Nah just want to change the default desktop, on start up kde is just too confusing for windows ppl. [13:02] lol [13:02] gnome should be fine for them, i picked ubuntu up quick [13:02] gnome that is [13:03] how do you find what release it is [13:03] oh look in synatic methinks [13:04] must be better ways [13:04] but no one saying much here today [13:07] magespawn, try install ubuntu-desktop and see what apt says [13:10] whats the question? :) [13:10] * sflr is half asleep [13:12] not sure about that. is that you choose on the boot screen? [13:14] he wants kde to be gnomified sflr [13:14] public sukkeling with kubuntu [13:16] wb charl [13:21] bbnn [13:23] You can choose at login screen which desktop to use but gnome does not display properly, so i decided on xcfe instead [13:25] Xfce rather. [14:35] did you come right magespawn ? [14:35] Yes using xfce [14:35] ah [14:35] is there a gui for the ibids [14:36] Do not think, it is meant to run on a server. [14:36] ah [14:39] so with a server you plug in a screen and keyboard and use the terminal for everything? [15:14] hi Kilos [15:14] phew hectic day today [15:16] hey charl wassup [15:18] what you struggled with? [15:20] nah just work stuff [15:21] always something that needs attention :) [15:21] ok home time for me, bbl! [15:21] Later all, on my home. [16:20] you home yet superfly ? [16:36] Kilos: Am now, had to make a detour past the pharmacy after the train ride [16:36] ah ok [16:36] hope no one sick [16:48] https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/whitepaper-web [17:20] afternoon [17:21] morning [17:28] hi Kilos [17:28] ah you in australia? [17:29] no in ptown [17:29] ah cause it's 03:30 in sydney right now [17:29] need to rob a bank first to go to aus [17:29] one way if leaving a country is to get deportated [17:30] yes they 8 hours ahead [17:30] then it's a free trip right? [17:30] and 9 in summer [17:30] lol [17:30] :D [17:30] how do you get deported from your home country?? [17:30] * Kilos listens [17:30] lol [17:31] i have no idea [17:31] can't say i've ever managed that either [17:31] i dont beleive its possible [17:31] i wanted to try and get deportated from south africa once but failed, the government didn't seem to bother [17:31] they lock you up because where would they deport you to [17:32] haha where are you from? [17:32] well if they have to deport all the foreigners it would be a 10 year project [17:32] especially all the zimbabweans and other africans [17:32] yeah they will never achive that [17:33] they streaming in everyday [17:33] well they come in faster than they can get deportated so it's a losing battle [17:33] besides, that actually requires the government to take action and do something, so that's definitely not going to happen in any case [17:34] lol [17:34] :D [17:34] friends of mine almost got locked up but they deportated themselves just in timew [17:34] hey you a clever kid [17:35] we getting a greeter bot scrip and wanna integrate it into an ibid bot [17:35] script? [17:35] ah [17:35] will need help methinks [17:36] ok, i don't really have any experience with ibid but i could try and help where possible [17:36] will first test and once perfected will integrate too maaz [17:36] cool [17:36] so he can great new peeps [17:36] ah ibid, is that vhata's bot thing [17:36] nice [17:36] ya and cocooncrash [17:37] Evening all [17:38] yo magespawn charl will help us when we get the greeter bot [17:38] hi magespawn [17:38] yup [17:38] Hi charl [17:38] Cool, would like to try it myself first [17:39] you can but i def gonna need help [17:39] sudo aptitude is like my limits [17:39] hehe [17:39] i don't really know ibid but if you people are stuck i am happy to help [17:39] if i can [17:39] Is kbmonkey doing the greeter? [17:39] magespawn: it's really easy [17:39] he says its finished magespawn [17:40] will mail to us weekend [17:40] yeah, he was [17:40] Cool, did he put it up in git or bazaar? [17:40] ah superfly then you can help too if it be easy [17:41] he doesnt have it with him [17:41] Kilos: yep, I wrote a plugin for Launchpad.net [17:41] but will mail to us weekend he says [17:41] great ty superfly [17:41] which I really should propose to be merged into Ibid sometime [17:42] i have a bot now too in my channel when i go there for testing purposes [17:42] superfly, a greeter plugin? [17:43] superfly, make a note to propose that [17:43] no, I use it to pull information about bugs and things from Canonical's Launchpad open source project hosting service [17:43] ah\ [17:44] i still gotta learn how to switch the bot off [17:44] Pull the plug? [17:44] lol on the pc? [17:44] Is it on a seperate machine? [17:45] once it joins the channel i dunno how to tell it go sleep now [17:45] no on this one [17:45] Ahh [17:45] Do not know either. [17:46] it doesnt take turn off command in the terminal but keeps giving info about something [17:46] man pages dont help either [17:46] Mmm, have not even tried that yet. [17:46] closing the terminal does kill it either [17:46] very short [17:47] Hold on [17:49] i am looking to get back into bot scripting but can't find a good excuse [17:49] haha [17:49] what we have on #ipv6 on efnet is a bot that posts the titles of links to web pages [17:49] so you know where you are going before you click on a link [17:50] that i found quite handy [17:50] but that's the only thing i could think of that this channel needs [17:50] what kinda bot? [17:50] I've seen that before, but I found that incredibly irritating [17:50] not ibid? [17:51] I prefer a bot that pretty much only speaks when spoken to [17:51] yip [17:51] they gotta know their place [17:51] superfly: if it randomly speaks i would also find it quite irritating, but this i feel provides a useful service [17:51] it only responds when a link is posted [17:51] it would be easy to adapt kbmonkey's script to do the above, but it would also be quite simple to write a plugin to respond to "title [for] " [17:52] charl: nah, this one was doing what you say, and only really being accustomed to Ibid bots, I found it quite annoying [17:52] or simply [17:52] Kilos tumbleweed works on ibid, maybe ask him. [17:52] hello [17:53] hi tumbleweed [17:53] ask him what magespawn [17:53] the ibid policy is that the bot only speaks when spoken to [17:53] we do have a few plugins that violate that, though [17:53] but not out of the box, they have to be configured to do so [17:53] that' [17:53] What the command is, or where to find a list? [17:53] that's fair enough [17:54] e.g. announcing news (rss feed) items or VCS commits [17:54] i do find it irritating if there are multiple bots in a channel that all respond to the same thing [17:54] methinks the only time our bot should do its own thing is to greet and maybe welcome new visitors [17:54] otherwise i don't mind it that much [17:54] tumbleweed: yeah but that's fine because those are push events in any case [17:54] Tumblweed what is the command to stop the bot? [17:54] things that come from the outside i mean [17:55] so, nothing stops you from creating a plugin htat greets people, and we'd even accept the patch. But it'd have to be disabled by default [17:55] yeah that's logical, having it enabled by default would suck [17:55] magespawn: the command to stop it doing what? [17:55] there's "die" :) [17:55] Just stop it. [17:55] disconnect tumbleweed [17:55] Maaz: help admin [17:55] tumbleweed: I use the following features for administrative functions: accounts, actions, auth, config, core, die, help, plugins, redirect, saydo, sources and version [17:55] Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details. [17:55] Maaz: help die [17:55] tumbleweed: Terminates the bot. You can use it like this: [17:55] die [17:55] tumbleweed: is there a plugin to expand an url into metadata, like the html title of a page, for example [17:56] Lol [17:56] Pretty direct. [17:56] ah die kills it? [17:56] tumbleweed: it doesn't have to do it for all links, only if it's given the link for example [17:56] like or so [17:56] Maaz: help http [17:56] tumbleweed: Tests if an HTTP site is up and retrieves HTTP URLs. You can use it like this: [17:56] (get|head) [17:56] is (up|down) [17:56] tell me when is up [17:56] Maaz: get https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue272 [17:56] tumbleweed: 200 OK "UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue272 - Ubuntu Wiki" [17:57] not entirely what i had in mind, but good enough imho [17:57] Maaz: head http://www.google.com/ [17:57] and yes, every link it sees, it stores in a database [17:57] charl: timed out [17:57] and/or delicious, if configured to do so [17:57] what? [17:58] Maaz: http://www.ubuntu.com/ [17:58] charl: Sorry... [17:58] ty tumbleweed die works kiff [17:58] Maaz: head http://www.ubuntu.com/ [17:58] charl: 200 OK [17:58] Maaz: get http://www.ubuntu.com/ [17:58] charl: 200 OK "Home | Ubuntu" [17:58] ah nice, ok [17:58] thanks tumbleweed [17:58] Can you issue all commands to the bot in channel? [17:59] tumbleweed, where can we get a list of ibid commands please [18:00] Maaz: help [18:00] charl: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff. [18:00] Ask me "help me with ..." for more details. [18:00] and can only the owner of said bot kill it [18:00] not those charl [18:00] Maaz help commands [18:00] like die [18:00] ah i see ok [18:00] magespawn: Redirects the response to a command to a different channel. You can use it like this: [18:00] redirect [to] [on ] [18:01] Well lets see. [18:01] Kilos: you ask the bot :) [18:01] gc die [18:01] the serious commands like die [18:01] There you go! [18:02]