[06:00] <Kilos> morning all
[06:15] <Kilos> hi dPhi 
[06:21] <dPhi> Kilos, HI
[06:21] <dPhi> I forgot my nickserv password
[06:22] <Kilos> lol
[06:22] <Kilos> password are such a pain
[06:23] <sflr> good morning
[06:23] <Kilos> morning sflr 
[06:42] <Kilos> morning superfly 
[06:43] <sakhi> Morning
[06:48] <charl> hi all
[06:54] <superfly> morning Kilos
[06:54] <sflr> hi charl, superfly 
[06:55] <superfly> hi sflr, etc
[06:56] <charl> hi superfly 
[06:56] <charl> hi sflr 
[06:56] <Kilos> hi charl 
[06:58] <superfly> hi charl
[07:04] <Kilos> hi sakhi 
[07:05] <charl> hi Kilos 
[07:06] <Kilos> hehe this is like a mornings ritual
[07:08] <charl> lol
[07:08] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[07:08]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[07:12] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[07:12] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[07:12] <Maaz> Kilos: There isn't a pot on
[07:12] <Kilos> eish
[07:13]  * Kilos must learn to type faster
[07:32] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[07:33] <Kilos> ty for all the effort you put in for the community
[07:33] <maiatoday> np Kilos
[07:33] <maiatoday> Sorry things aren't happening as quickly as they could
[07:35] <superfly> hi maiatoday!
[07:35] <Kilos> np maiatoday you also have a life you know and lotsa things dont happen overnight 
[07:42] <Kilos> hey SmilyBorg 
[07:42] <SmilyBorg> Hi there
[07:46] <SmilyBorg> how is everyone doing today?
[07:47] <Kilos> ok ty
[07:47] <Kilos> not as good as in durbs
[07:47] <SmilyBorg> hehe
[07:48] <SmilyBorg> been nice and warm here
[07:48] <SmilyBorg> actually got sunburnt at the pride parade on Saturday
[07:50] <maiatoday> hi superfly
[07:53] <Kilos> yo NeVeR_ 
[07:53] <NeVeR_> yo yo 
[08:17] <Kilos> hi Kerbero 
[08:17] <Kilos> oh the other one
[08:17] <Kilos> hi Kerbero[dsp] 
[08:18] <Kerbero> dag
[08:18] <kbmonkey> hello
[08:18] <Kerbero> dis nie 'n goeie teken dat die ander een getimeout het nie
[08:19] <Kilos> hellloooooo kbmonkey 
[08:19] <Kilos> the internet is very sick
[08:19] <kbmonkey> how goes it? i haven't been on line in over a month. eek.
[08:20] <Kilos> we all ok ty kbmonkey and you suitcase dweller
[08:20] <Kilos> dont forget meeting next monday night
[08:21] <kbmonkey> im a bit let down by shotwell, that photo manager ubuntu uses now :/
[08:22] <Kilos> what do you do with it?
[08:22] <kbmonkey> and i see picasa has been dropped by google :(
[08:22] <Kilos> i only use it fro cropping
[08:22] <kbmonkey> picasa for linux*
[08:23] <kbmonkey> oh its for a friend. 
[08:24] <Kilos> that doesnt answer what you want shotwell to do
[08:24] <kbmonkey> to browse your photos as they exist in their folders
[08:25] <kbmonkey> shotwell does not show folders
[08:25] <Kilos> ah
[08:25] <kbmonkey> it only shows dates
[08:25] <kbmonkey> lol
[08:25] <Kilos> you can browse photos just by opening one and then ticking next
[08:25] <kbmonkey> you know what i have not had in a long time kilos
[08:25] <Kilos> without shotwell
[08:26] <kbmonkey> coffee from maaz
[08:26] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[08:26]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[08:26] <kbmonkey> Maaz, coffee plz
[08:26] <Maaz> kbmonkey: *blink*
[08:26] <kbmonkey> Maaz, coffee
[08:26] <Maaz> kbmonkey: *blink*
[08:26] <Kilos> dont be lazy type please
[08:27] <kbmonkey> oh yes Kilos you remember that greeter bot, i did finish it at the time. was in testing!
[08:27] <kbmonkey> Maaz, coffee please.
[08:27] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Yessir
[08:27] <Kilos> ah that sounds good. can it be integrateds with maaz
[08:27] <Kilos> then i can rest
[08:28] <kbmonkey> i could not submit the code to ibid because I had issues with bazaar, the app used to submit code :p
[08:28] <Kilos> ai
[08:28] <kbmonkey> yes it integrates with Maaz, indeed!
[08:29] <Kilos> just dont kill maaz
[08:29] <Kilos> magewill also like something like that for gc methinks
[08:29] <kbmonkey> hey, perhaps i could get it to magespawn and he can try it
[08:30] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and kbmonkey!
[08:30] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[08:30] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[08:30] <Kilos> how big is it kbmonkey ?
[08:32] <kbmonkey> Maaz, thank you my vriend!
[08:32] <Maaz> no problem, kbmonkey
[08:32] <kbmonkey> not much Kilos, its a couple of lines of text.
[08:33] <Kilos> maybe i can get a bot and play with it here by me as well
[08:33] <kbmonkey> okay maybe a couple of kilobytes, but not much
[08:33] <Kilos> havent looked how big ibid is yet
[08:33] <kbmonkey> oh ibid itself, is larger. not sure though
[08:34] <Kilos> can it be mailed?
[08:34] <Kilos> i mean to play with the intgration bit
[08:34] <kbmonkey> ibid has to be installed, the code i wrote can certainly be emailed.
[08:34] <Kilos> please mail it to me
[08:34] <Kilos> i go see how big ibid is
[08:35] <kbmonkey> i don't have it on me today, Kilos. sorry :)
[08:35] <Kilos> np, when you can
[08:35] <Kilos> just not in a months time
[08:35] <Kilos> hehe
[08:36] <Kilos> how come you been showing online for a week or so
[08:36] <kbmonkey> its on my pc in pmb, either this weekend or next weekend
[08:36] <Kilos> thats great
[08:36] <kbmonkey> i have a remote shell account, which logs into irc. so i show as logged in. that is why.
[08:37] <Kilos> ibid is 4.8m
[08:37] <Kilos> so ill get it
[08:37] <kbmonkey> magespawn probably has ibid already, 
[08:37] <Kilos> yes its here
[08:37] <Kilos> gc, hi
[08:37] <gc> good morning
[08:38] <kbmonkey> so i don't see why you should get it unless you develop for it :)
[08:38] <Kilos> i also wanna play sometimes
[08:39] <Kilos> can try squeeze it into mxit
[08:39] <Kilos> hehe
[08:39] <kbmonkey> you should, writing programs is fun
[08:39] <Kilos> its a working bot already isnt it
[08:39] <kbmonkey> yes it is
[08:39] <kbmonkey> just like Maaz our robot friend
[08:40] <Kilos> hows work going kbmonkey ?
[08:41] <kbmonkey> good good
[08:42] <kbmonkey> where there's coffee, its good
[08:44] <Kilos> lol
[08:45] <Kilos> aslong as its not plastic coffee
[08:45] <Kilos> checkers no name brand kinda thing
[08:47] <kbmonkey> it is :(
[08:48]  * kbmonkey rethinks life
[08:49] <kbmonkey> i am glad this ssh allowed me to get on to irc :)
[08:50] <Kilos> yeah we kinda missed your smiling mug
[08:51] <kbmonkey> :>
[08:52] <kbmonkey> @>~~~~ a rose for you
[08:52] <Kilos> hehe
[08:58] <kbmonkey> im going back to grind the stone oom Kilos 
[08:58] <Kilos> ok kbmonkey enjoy
[08:58] <kbmonkey> i will try pop in again soon, i will bring biscuits
[08:58] <Kilos> ty lad
[08:58] <Kilos> be good
[08:59] <kbmonkey> always :>
[08:59] <Kilos> haha
[10:29] <Kilos> gc wb
[10:29] <gc> Thanks Kilos It was a bit of a struggle getting here.
[10:50] <Kilos> Maaz, whats for lunch
[10:50] <Maaz> I'm sure Kentucky would go down well Kilos
[10:50] <Kilos> yum
[11:29] <Kilos> yo inetpro you didnt even say good morning this afternoon
[11:35] <inetpro> eh, good evening Kilos
[11:35] <Kilos> hahaha dag se my vriend
[11:44] <sflr> just reading about the t-shirt emails. cant we have some printed and posted? :)
[11:45] <Kilos> inetpro, my bot praat vanself afrikaans
[11:45] <Kilos> you winning sflr 
[11:45] <Kilos> ?
[11:47] <sflr> yes Kilos, won R10 on the lotto. haha
[11:47] <Kilos> haha great stuff
[11:51] <Kilos> i go checkup on sheep
[12:46] <magespawn> Howdy all
[12:50] <Kilos> hiya magespawn 
[12:50] <Kilos> maybe got some good news for ya
[12:50] <Kilos> the monkey gonna sent us the greeting bot script to try with an ibid
[12:50] <magespawn> Cool
[12:51] <Kilos> i got one toooo
[12:51] <Kilos> yay
[12:52] <magespawn> Busy trying to get my kubuntu machine to start with another desktop like gnome
[12:52] <Kilos> just install gnome-desktop i think
[12:52] <Kilos> was ubuntu-desktop on 11.04
[12:53] <Kilos> you on 12.04 hey
[12:54] <magespawn> Its is there as an option when you start, but does not give any menu bars etc just a blank screen
[12:54] <magespawn> Xcfe works fine though.
[12:54] <Kilos> 12.04?
[12:56] <magespawn> Not actually sure.
[12:56] <Kilos> hehe
[12:57] <Kilos> what do these guys say?
[12:57] <Kilos> http://askubuntu.com/questions/141149/can-i-switch-between-desktop-environments-using-terminal
[13:00] <magespawn> Nah just want to change the default desktop, on start up kde is just too confusing for windows ppl.
[13:02] <Kilos> lol
[13:02] <Kilos> gnome should be fine for them, i picked ubuntu up quick
[13:02] <Kilos> gnome that is
[13:03] <Kilos> how do you find what release it is
[13:03] <Kilos> oh look in synatic methinks
[13:04] <Kilos> must be better ways
[13:04] <Kilos> but no one saying much here today
[13:07] <Kilos> magespawn, try install ubuntu-desktop and see what apt says
[13:10] <sflr> whats the question? :)
[13:10]  * sflr is half asleep
[13:12] <sflr> not sure about that. is that you choose on the boot screen?
[13:14] <Kilos> he wants kde to be gnomified sflr 
[13:14] <Kilos> public sukkeling with kubuntu
[13:16] <Kilos> wb charl 
[13:21] <Kilos> bbnn
[13:23] <magespawn> You can choose at login screen which desktop to use but gnome does not display properly, so i decided on xcfe instead
[13:25] <magespawn> Xfce rather.
[14:35] <Kilos> did you come right magespawn ?
[14:35] <magespawn> Yes using xfce
[14:35] <Kilos> ah
[14:35] <Kilos> is there a gui for the ibids
[14:36] <magespawn> Do not think, it is meant to run on a server.
[14:36] <Kilos> ah
[14:39] <Kilos> so with a server you plug in a screen and keyboard and use the terminal for everything?
[15:14] <charl> hi Kilos 
[15:14] <charl> phew hectic day today
[15:16] <Kilos> hey charl wassup
[15:18] <Kilos> what you struggled with?
[15:20] <charl> nah just work stuff
[15:21] <charl> always something that needs attention :)
[15:21] <charl> ok home time for me, bbl!
[15:21] <magespawn> Later all, on my home.
[16:20] <Kilos> you home yet superfly ?
[16:36] <superfly> Kilos: Am now, had to make a detour past the pharmacy after the train ride
[16:36] <Kilos> ah ok
[16:36] <Kilos> hope no one sick
[16:48] <tumbleweed> https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/whitepaper-web
[17:20] <charl> afternoon
[17:21] <Kilos> morning
[17:28] <charl> hi Kilos 
[17:28] <charl> ah you in australia?
[17:29] <Kilos> no in ptown
[17:29] <charl> ah cause it's 03:30 in sydney right now
[17:29] <Kilos> need to rob a bank first to go to aus
[17:29] <charl> one way if leaving a country is to get deportated
[17:30] <Kilos> yes they 8 hours ahead 
[17:30] <charl> then it's a free trip right?
[17:30] <Kilos> and 9 in summer
[17:30] <Kilos> lol
[17:30] <charl> :D
[17:30] <Kilos> how do you get deported from your home country??
[17:30]  * Kilos listens
[17:30] <charl> lol
[17:31] <charl> i have no idea
[17:31] <charl> can't say i've ever managed that either
[17:31] <Kilos> i dont beleive its possible
[17:31] <charl> i wanted to try and get deportated from south africa once but failed, the government didn't seem to bother
[17:31] <Kilos> they lock you up because where would they deport you to
[17:32] <Kilos> haha where are you from?
[17:32] <charl> well if they have to deport all the foreigners it would be a 10 year project
[17:32] <charl> especially all the zimbabweans and other africans
[17:32] <Kilos> yeah they will never achive that
[17:33] <Kilos> they streaming in everyday
[17:33] <charl> well they come in faster than they can get deportated so it's a losing battle
[17:33] <charl> besides, that actually requires the government to take action and do something, so that's definitely not going to happen in any case
[17:34] <Kilos> lol
[17:34] <charl> :D
[17:34] <charl> friends of mine almost got locked up but they deportated themselves just in timew
[17:34] <Kilos> hey you a clever kid
[17:35] <Kilos> we getting a greeter bot scrip and wanna integrate it into an ibid bot
[17:35] <Kilos> script?
[17:35] <charl> ah
[17:35] <Kilos> will need help methinks
[17:36] <charl> ok, i don't really have any experience with ibid but i could try and help where possible
[17:36] <Kilos> will first test and once perfected will integrate too maaz
[17:36] <charl> cool
[17:36] <Kilos> so he can great new peeps
[17:36] <charl> ah ibid, is that vhata's bot thing
[17:36] <charl> nice
[17:36] <Kilos> ya and cocooncrash 
[17:37] <magespawn> Evening all
[17:38] <Kilos> yo magespawn charl will help us when we get the greeter bot
[17:38] <charl> hi magespawn 
[17:38] <charl> yup
[17:38] <magespawn> Hi charl
[17:38] <magespawn> Cool, would like to try it myself first
[17:39] <Kilos> you can but i def gonna need help
[17:39] <Kilos> sudo aptitude is like my limits
[17:39] <Kilos> hehe
[17:39] <charl> i don't really know ibid but if you people are stuck i am happy to help
[17:39] <charl> if i can
[17:39] <magespawn> Is kbmonkey doing the greeter?
[17:39] <superfly> magespawn: it's really easy
[17:39] <Kilos> he says its finished magespawn 
[17:40] <Kilos> will mail to us weekend
[17:40] <superfly> yeah, he was
[17:40] <magespawn> Cool, did he put it up in git or bazaar?
[17:40] <Kilos> ah superfly then you can help too if it be easy
[17:41] <Kilos> he doesnt have it with him 
[17:41] <superfly> Kilos: yep, I wrote a plugin for Launchpad.net
[17:41] <Kilos> but will mail to us weekend he says
[17:41] <Kilos> great ty superfly 
[17:41] <superfly> which I really should propose to be merged into Ibid sometime
[17:42] <Kilos> i have a bot now too in my channel when i go there for testing purposes
[17:42] <Kilos> superfly, a greeter plugin?
[17:43] <Kilos> superfly, make a note to propose that
[17:43] <superfly> no, I use it to pull information about bugs and things from Canonical's Launchpad open source project hosting service
[17:43] <Kilos> ah\
[17:44] <Kilos> i still gotta learn how to switch the bot off
[17:44] <magespawn> Pull the plug?
[17:44] <Kilos> lol on the pc?
[17:44] <magespawn> Is it on a seperate machine?
[17:45] <Kilos> once it joins the channel i dunno how to tell it go sleep now
[17:45] <Kilos> no on this one
[17:45] <magespawn> Ahh
[17:45] <magespawn> Do not know either.
[17:46] <Kilos> it doesnt take turn off command in the terminal but keeps giving info about something
[17:46] <Kilos> man pages dont help either
[17:46] <magespawn> Mmm, have not even tried that yet.
[17:46] <Kilos> closing the terminal does kill it either
[17:46] <Kilos> very short
[17:47] <magespawn> Hold on
[17:49] <charl> i am looking to get back into bot scripting but can't find a good excuse
[17:49] <Kilos> haha
[17:49] <charl> what we have on #ipv6 on efnet is a bot that posts the titles of links to web pages
[17:49] <charl> so you know where you are going before you click on a link
[17:50] <charl> that i found quite handy
[17:50] <charl> but that's the only thing i could think of that this channel needs
[17:50] <Kilos> what kinda bot?
[17:50] <superfly> I've seen that before, but I found that incredibly irritating
[17:50] <Kilos> not ibid?
[17:51] <superfly> I prefer a bot that pretty much only speaks when spoken to
[17:51] <Kilos> yip
[17:51] <Kilos> they gotta know their place
[17:51] <charl> superfly: if it randomly speaks i would also find it quite irritating, but this i feel provides a useful service
[17:51] <charl> it only responds when a link is posted
[17:51] <superfly> it would be easy to adapt kbmonkey's script to do the above, but it would also be quite simple to write a plugin to respond to "title [for] <url>"
[17:52] <superfly> charl: nah, this one was doing what you say, and only really being accustomed to Ibid bots, I found it quite annoying
[17:52] <charl> or simply <botname> <url>
[17:52] <magespawn> Kilos tumbleweed works on ibid, maybe ask him.
[17:52] <tumbleweed> hello
[17:53] <Kilos> hi tumbleweed 
[17:53] <Kilos> ask him what magespawn 
[17:53] <tumbleweed> the ibid policy is that the bot only speaks when spoken to
[17:53] <tumbleweed> we do have a few plugins that violate that, though
[17:53] <tumbleweed> but not out of the box, they have to be configured to do so
[17:53] <charl> that'
[17:53] <magespawn> What the command is, or where to find a list?
[17:53] <charl> that's fair enough
[17:54] <tumbleweed> e.g. announcing news (rss feed) items or VCS commits
[17:54] <charl> i do find it irritating if there are multiple bots in a channel that all respond to the same thing
[17:54] <Kilos> methinks the only time our bot should do its own thing is to greet and maybe welcome new visitors
[17:54] <charl> otherwise i don't mind it that much
[17:54] <charl> tumbleweed: yeah but that's fine because those are push events in any case
[17:54] <magespawn> Tumblweed what is the command to stop the bot?
[17:54] <charl> things that come from the outside i mean
[17:55] <tumbleweed> so, nothing stops you from creating a plugin htat greets people, and we'd even accept the patch. But it'd have to be disabled by default
[17:55] <charl> yeah that's logical, having it enabled by default would suck
[17:55] <tumbleweed> magespawn: the command to stop it doing what?
[17:55] <tumbleweed> there's "die" :)
[17:55] <magespawn> Just stop it.
[17:55] <Kilos> disconnect tumbleweed 
[17:55] <tumbleweed> Maaz: help admin
[17:55] <Maaz> tumbleweed: I use the following features for administrative functions: accounts, actions, auth, config, core, die, help, plugins, redirect, saydo, sources and version
[17:55] <Maaz> Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details.
[17:55] <tumbleweed> Maaz: help die
[17:55] <Maaz> tumbleweed: Terminates the bot. You can use it like this:
[17:55] <Maaz>   die
[17:55] <charl> tumbleweed: is there a plugin to expand an url into metadata, like the html title of a page, for example
[17:56] <magespawn> Lol
[17:56] <magespawn> Pretty direct.
[17:56] <Kilos> ah die kills it?
[17:56] <charl> tumbleweed: it doesn't have to do it for all links, only if it's given the link for example
[17:56] <charl> like <botname> <url> or so
[17:56] <tumbleweed> Maaz: help http
[17:56] <Maaz> tumbleweed: Tests if an HTTP site is up and retrieves HTTP URLs. You can use it like this:
[17:56] <Maaz>   (get|head) <url>
[17:56] <Maaz>   is <domain> (up|down)
[17:56] <Maaz>   tell me when <domain|url> is up
[17:56] <tumbleweed> Maaz: get https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue272
[17:56] <Maaz> tumbleweed: 200 OK "UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue272 - Ubuntu Wiki"
[17:57] <charl> not entirely what i had in mind, but good enough imho
[17:57] <charl> Maaz: head http://www.google.com/
[17:57] <tumbleweed> and yes, every link it sees, it stores in a database
[17:57] <Maaz> charl: timed out
[17:57] <tumbleweed> and/or delicious, if configured to do so
[17:57] <charl> what?
[17:58] <charl> Maaz: http://www.ubuntu.com/
[17:58] <Maaz> charl: Sorry...
[17:58] <Kilos> ty tumbleweed die works kiff
[17:58] <charl> Maaz: head http://www.ubuntu.com/
[17:58] <Maaz> charl: 200 OK
[17:58] <charl> Maaz: get http://www.ubuntu.com/
[17:58] <Maaz> charl: 200 OK "Home | Ubuntu"
[17:58] <charl> ah nice, ok
[17:58] <charl> thanks tumbleweed 
[17:58] <magespawn> Can you issue all commands to the bot in channel?
[17:59] <Kilos> tumbleweed, where can we get a list of ibid commands please
[18:00] <charl> Maaz: help
[18:00] <Maaz> charl: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.
[18:00] <Maaz> Ask me "help me with ..." for more details.
[18:00] <Kilos> and can only the owner of said bot kill it
[18:00] <Kilos> not those charl
[18:00] <magespawn> Maaz help commands
[18:00] <Kilos> like die
[18:00] <charl> ah i see ok
[18:00] <Maaz> magespawn: Redirects the response to a command to a different channel. You can use it like this:
[18:00] <Maaz>   redirect [to] <channel> [on <source>] <command>
[18:01] <magespawn> Well lets see.
[18:01] <tumbleweed> Kilos: you ask the bot :)
[18:01] <magespawn> gc die
[18:01] <Kilos> the serious commands like die
[18:01] <magespawn> There you go!
[18:02] <Kilos> yes magespawn  but can anyone kill it
[18:02] <cocooncrash> Maaz: help admin
[18:02] <Kilos> how do you start it now from fone
[18:02] <Maaz> cocooncrash: I use the following features for administrative functions: accounts, actions, auth, config, core, die, help, plugins, redirect, saydo, sources and version
[18:02] <Maaz> Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details.
[18:02] <tumbleweed> Maaz: die
[18:02] <tumbleweed> no, not everyone can kill it
[18:02] <Maaz> tumbleweed: You're not the boss of me
[18:03] <charl> Maaz: how do i use die
[18:03] <Kilos> haha i love that saying
[18:03] <Maaz> charl: Terminates the bot. You can use it like this:
[18:03] <Maaz>   die
[18:03] <Kilos> ty cocooncrash 
[18:03] <Kilos> all good there in the states?
[18:03] <charl> Maaz: version
[18:03] <Maaz> charl: I am version 0.1.1
[18:04] <charl> hmmm version of what, not very informative
[18:04] <magespawn> Presumable i can kill gc, because when i set her up i set magespawn as the owner
[18:04] <charl> magespawn: how does the bot authenticate you though, just by your nickname?
[18:04] <charl> what if somebody else logs in as you...
[18:04] <cocooncrash> charl: It verifies that you're authenticated with NickServ
[18:05] <magespawn> Do not know. The nick is registered so some protection at least.
[18:05] <charl> cocooncrash: ah i see, good enough
[18:05] <charl> doesn't help if you're on a network with no nickserv though but ok
[18:05] <cocooncrash> Kilos: Yup, things are good
[18:05] <cocooncrash> charl: Then you have to send a password to the bot
[18:05] <charl> cocooncrash: ah ok, makes sense
[18:05] <magespawn> Just need to set it up so i can restart her.
[18:06] <cocooncrash> charl: It also depends on the permission
[18:06] <cocooncrash> charl: You can choose whether permissions require authentication or not
[18:07] <charl> cocooncrash: ah cool
[18:07] <magespawn> That would be a good idea.
[18:07] <magespawn> So password for every command, or selected commands.
[18:07] <Kilos> and i see ibids work on jabber as well
[18:08] <Kilos> will try it on pidgin sometime
[18:08] <charl> cocooncrash: btw, sorry if this is a crap question, but just out of curiosity, is your nick in any way related to the band? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoon_Crash
[18:08] <charl> or the album should i say
[18:08] <cocooncrash> charl: The album, yes
[18:09] <charl> ah ok
[18:10] <Kilos> is there a users guide to using/seting up an ibid
[18:10] <Kilos> the basic was easy with the questions asked
[18:11] <charl> Kilos: http://ibid.omnia.za.net/docs/trunk/install.html
[18:11] <tumbleweed> the documentation is less than ideal, but yes: http://ibid.omnia.za.net/docs/
[18:12] <Kilos> ty tumbleweed 
[18:16] <magespawn> http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/nvidia-loses-order-due-to-poor-linux-support-20120628/
[18:16] <Kilos> good they must wake up
[18:17] <magespawn> Is there a way to turn the online doc into a pdf?
[18:17] <Kilos> the whole thing?
[18:17] <Kilos> many pages to open
[18:18] <magespawn> Or pull the html to store it locally? 
[18:18] <magespawn> Yes the whole thing.
[18:18] <superfly> magespawn: Firefox includes print-to-pdf
[18:18] <superfly> at least on Linux it does
[18:18] <superfly> just say "print to file" and then select "PDF"
[18:18] <magespawn> Only does one page at a time though i think.
[18:19] <charl> afaik the print to pdf functionality is standard in linux
[18:19] <magespawn> So you would have to click through every page.
[18:20] <Kilos> whew there are many
[18:20] <charl> i hate sites that does that
[18:20] <charl> *do
[18:21] <Kilos> magespawn, you can right click each page and save to methinks
[18:22] <Kilos> then they come in html
[18:24] <magespawn> Be cool if there was a wiki style toolbox, to print or convert to pdf.
[18:25] <Kilos> there is a command
[18:25] <Kilos> html to pdf
[18:25] <Kilos> whew where to find it again
[18:28] <Kilos> https://ubuntuincident.wordpress.com/2011/02/17/convert-html-to-pdf/
[18:29] <tumbleweed> wkhtmltopdf
[18:30] <tumbleweed> Maaz: apt search html pdf
[18:30] <Maaz> tumbleweed: Found 2 packages: pdftohtml and wkhtmltopdf
[18:37] <Kilos> that would be so lekker if i could just drag the htmls into the converter
[18:38] <Kilos> there you go charl write a gui for wkhtmltopdf
[18:39] <charl> bah
[18:39] <charl> i don't do guis ;)
[18:39] <Kilos> haha
[18:39] <charl> i do cmdline :P
[18:39] <Kilos> for me man
[18:39] <charl> lol, do you know jon hall?
[18:39] <charl> maddog
[18:39] <Kilos> i sukkel with the paths everytime
[18:39] <charl> he looks to me like a real guru
[18:39] <charl> i always picture him sitting in the dojo, meditating on the linux kernel
[18:40] <charl> i go and sit down in front of him and say "master, learn me the way of the command line"
[18:40] <charl> (in a distinctly japanese accent)
[18:40] <Kilos> hehe
[18:40] <charl> and add "desu desu desu" at the end just for good measure, considering you can never have enough desu
[18:40] <Kilos> command line is good if you dont forget things
[18:41] <charl> aliases are good, if you do ;)
[18:41] <charl> aliases have been made for the ballies
[18:41] <Kilos> aliases?
[18:41] <Kilos> sigh
[18:42] <Kilos> you need to read my blog
[18:42] <Kilos> the part of my brain that used to do the thinking/remembering is lying onna farm 1150ks from here
[18:43] <Kilos> 150ks
[18:45] <Kerbero> een punt een vyf megameter
[18:45] <Kilos> yo Kerbero 
[18:45] <Kerbero> dag
[18:45] <Kilos> ek sukkel met die jong mense
[18:49] <charl> lighties for world domination
[18:49] <charl> :)
[18:49] <Kilos> hehe
[18:49] <Kilos> laaities
[18:57] <Kilos> nitght guys sleep tight. see ya morrow
[18:57] <magespawn> I do have HTT
[18:57] <magespawn> Night Kilos
[19:19] <magespawn> Brb putting fish to bed.
[19:19] <inetpro> good mornings
[19:19] <inetpro> hmm... or evening rather
[19:20] <inetpro> I guess that was just another hectic monday
[19:22] <inetpro> at this rate it looks like it will be next year when I'm done with stuffs that was supposed to have been done last year
[19:29] <magespawn> inetpro so then you are on schedule
[19:32] <charl> nn all
[19:32] <charl> hi inetpro 
[19:40] <magespawn> Sleep less?
[19:40] <inetpro> magespawn: nope
[19:40] <inetpro> that won't do it unfortunately
[19:49] <magespawn> Drink more coffee? To work faster?
[19:52] <magespawn> I have noticed that certain minimums of sleep have to observed.
[19:52] <inetpro> magespawn: yeah, now that sounds like a good idea
[19:52] <magespawn> Much to my dismay.
[19:52] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[19:52]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[19:53] <magespawn> Maaz coffee please
[19:53] <Maaz> magespawn: Sure
[19:53] <magespawn> Do more than one thing at a time? Automate?
[19:53] <magespawn> Get minions.
[19:55] <magespawn> Minions are cool, pay them minimum mage, give them food and coffee and your good to go.
[19:56] <magespawn> Minimum wage.
[19:56] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro and magespawn!
[19:56] <magespawn> Hah freudian slip.
[19:56] <magespawn> ty Maaz
[19:57] <inetpro> Maaz: define minion
[19:57] <Maaz> inetpro: Minion \Min"ion\, a. [See 2d {Minion}.] Fine; trim; dainty. [Obs.] "Their . . . minion dancing." --Fryth. [1913 Webster], Minion \Min"ion\, n. Minimum. [Obs.] --Burton. [1913 Webster], Minion \Min"ion\, n. [F. mignon, fr. OHG. minni love, G. minne; akin to E. mind. See {Mind}, and cf. {Mignonette}.] [1913 Webster] 1. A loved one; one highly esteemed and favored; -- in a good sense. [Obs.] [1913 Webster]  God's disciple and his dear
[19:57] <inetpro> Maaz: dankie
[19:57] <Maaz> Groot plesier inetpro my vriend
[19:58] <magespawn> Or mini me's
[20:00] <magespawn> Followers.
[20:03] <inetpro> hmm... I could do with some clones :-)
[20:03] <magespawn> Multiplicity
[20:14] <inetpro> yeah, just need to erase all the bad spot before multiplying :-)
[20:15] <inetpro> spots*
[20:25] <magespawn> And remove the desire to clone from the clones.