[00:00] <jetole> three18ti: http://pastebin.com/XEwZUK74
[00:00] <three18ti> thx.
[00:00] <timetunr> the wireless adapters don't show up when running ubuntu in virtualbox :/
[00:00] <dj_segfault> NastyNaz: Ongoing, I use it to control lights, but I also have a complicated script that uses X10 to reboot the cablemodem when I lose internet.  I have a big halloween display I use it for
[00:00] <three18ti> jetole, you should use paste.ubuntu.com too many ads on pastebin.
[00:00] <jetole> three18ti: if I use aptitude, the first suggestion is it wants to keep packages as is and not install the program I asked for. The next suggestion is downgrading packages which just seems wrong
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> timetunr: the hardwareis virtualized, so it won't show as a wireless adapter
[00:01] <jetole> three18ti: oh I use adblocker so I didn't even know they were there
[00:01] <timetunr> it doesn't show up at all though
[00:01] <timetunr> how can I access it?
[00:01] <three18ti> ;) me too, until someone else told me the same.
[00:01] <jetole> three18ti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1070306/
[00:01] <wylde> timetunr: it won't. Unless you have usb support properly installed and it's a usb wireless device.
[00:01] <BluesKaj> !aptitude | jetole
[00:02] <timetunr> I have one usb wireless adapter and one pci
[00:02] <timetunr> so I should attach the usb and it will show up?
[00:02] <jetole> BluesKaj: How does multi architecture apply to this?
[00:02] <NastyNaz> dj_segfault: how does it identify individual house lights? Do they need special x10 adaptors?
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> timetunr: you will need the closed source virtualbox for raw usb access
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> timetunr: I'd ask in #vbox
[00:02] <wylde> timetunr: if you have install the vbox extension pack and enabled a usb filter in settings yes.
[00:02] <wylde> installed*
[00:03] <three18ti> jetole, did you yo do an `apt-get install -f libgtk-3-dev` or `apt-get install -f`
[00:03] <timetunr> cool thanks
[00:03] <Athleek123> wubi is downloading amd64 version of ubuntu and I am pretty sure I need i386, what do i do??
[00:03] <bz> meh, -f won't fix your dependency problem
[00:03] <dj_segfault> NastyNaz: Each wall plug has rotary switches to set a house code and a unit code.
[00:03] <jetole> three18ti: oh I did `apt-get install -f libgtk-3-dev`. should I do it without the package name?
[00:04] <jetole> bz: Any input on what will?
[00:04] <bz> jetole: you tried aptitude, right?
[00:04] <three18ti> bz, it won't?
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> three18ti: apt-get will need sufo
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> *sudo
[00:04] <wylde> jetole: just 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[00:04] <jetole> bz. aptitude first suggestion was not installing the package I want and leaving the system as is. The second suggestion was downgrading installed packages which sounds like the wrong answer to me
[00:05] <bz> jetole: you'll need to downgrade
[00:05] <Thales> Can someone suggest me an Audio Broadcaster for Ubuntu? Something like SAM Broadcaster...
[00:05] <bz> jetole: because apparently the libgtk-dev you want depends on those older packages
[00:05] <Athleek123> anybody know how to tell? ^^
[00:05] <jetole> bz: can you explain why I should downgrade?
[00:05] <jetole> er
[00:05] <bz> jetole: are you in the middle of upgrading across distros?
[00:05] <timetunr> also one more thing. is it worth looking into vmware or will closed source virtualbox suffice in terms of reliability and performance
[00:05] <jetole> bz: This was a fresh install. Reformat, new lvm2 vg's and lv's, etc etc
[00:05] <three18ti> jetole, listen to bz.
[00:06] <timetunr> I plan to be running this machine for a very long time
[00:06] <timetunr> virtual machine^
[00:06] <jetole> three18ti: will do. btw, thanks for the help so far
[00:06] <Athleek123> is there any reason why wubi is downloading the wrong version
[00:06] <bz> jetole: which release is this? lemme check through the dependencies
[00:06] <jagginess> timetunr, make yourself clear. Know the difference between vbox and vmware.. Vmware is the non-free one.
[00:06] <three18ti> jetole, he's right, -f is to 'fix broken packages', I misread your error.
[00:06] <timetunr> right
[00:07] <jetole> bz: this is 12.04 alternative however I have added some PPA's too for example one for nvidia driver, medibuntu, etc
[00:07] <Athleek123> someone help a noob out
[00:07] <jetole> three18ti: it's ok. I still appreciate the help
[00:07] <timetunr> is it worth looking into paying for vmware or is virtualbox considered good enough for a long running virtual machine
[00:07] <three18ti> timetunr, you should look into kvm as it is open source and included in the repos.
[00:07] <purpleDrank> Athleek123: it will do that
[00:07] <three18ti> timetunr, http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page
[00:07] <jetole> bz: I don't know if the other ppa's may have affected this
[00:07] <Athleek123> purpleDrank it will download amd64 version instead of i386?
[00:07] <purpleDrank> Athleek123: I have an intel p4 64bit and it downloaded the amd64 pacakge and installed fine
[00:07] <Doomhammer> what do i need to do to get the ubuntu livecd to boot into uefi mode on this macbook? doing a normal boot results in "efibootmgr" saying it cannot see efi variables, and "sudo modprobe efivars" doesn't work
[00:07] <Athleek123> purpleDrank oh so I shouldn't worry?
[00:07] <jagginess> timetunr, install the real thing
[00:08] <purpleDrank> i didnt
[00:08] <purpleDrank> ran fine
[00:08] <three18ti> jetole, no problem, didn't really do much ;)
[00:08] <Athleek123> thanks! :D
[00:08]  * purpleDrank nods.
[00:08] <three18ti> jagginess, what "the real thing"?
[00:08] <jagginess> three18ti, install ubuntu "natively"
[00:08] <bz> jetole: do you have aptitude holding any packages back? if not, then: aptitude keep-all
[00:08] <jetole> three18ti: you paid attention and offered support. That counts ;-)
[00:08] <jetole> bz: aptitude output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1070311/
[00:09] <wylde> !mac | Doomhammer
[00:09] <timetunr> yeah i would dual boot but I really need to have access to both machines at the same time
[00:09] <bz> wow, fast
[00:09] <three18ti> jagginess, ++
[00:09] <Jordan_U> Doomhammer: Why do you want to boot via EFI? It's generally recommended to boot via Apple's BIOS implementation instead.
[00:09] <jetole> bz: I ran `dpkg --get-selections | grep hold` and I didn't see anything placed on hold. Is there an alternative way to check specific to aptitude?
[00:10] <Doomhammer> Jordan_U: i'm hoping to use GRUB2 to boot ubuntu/osx, and i'm under the impression i need to boot in uefi mode for "grub2-install" to work correctly
[00:11] <bz> jetole: you could just open up aptitude's gui, hit 'g', then check if you've scheduled anything (besides libgtk-dev) to be installed or upgraded
[00:11] <bz> jetole: it doesn't seem to be the case, anyway
[00:11] <HelloWorld321> if I am following http://www.danbishop.org/2012/06/02/ubuntu-12-04-ultimate-server-guide-first-draft/3/, where does the ldap configuration file "frontend.danbishop.org.ldif" go?     in /etc/ldap/frontend.danbishop.org.ldif ?
[00:11] <jetole> bz: aptitude has a gui? how do I launch it?
[00:12] <jagginess> HelloWorld321, ldap is a professional level question.  I think nobody here uses it. (So you're much in the wrong forum for this)
[00:12] <bz> jetole: aptitude
[00:12] <bz> jetole: no args, prepend with sudo if needed
[00:12] <jetole> bz: oh wow. didn't know that was there
[00:12] <bz> jetole: anyway
[00:12] <jagginess> jetole, synaptic
[00:13] <wylde> HelloWorld321: #ubuntu-server may get more responses to that question.
[00:13] <bz> jetole: aptitude show libgtk-3-dev
[00:13] <jetole> bz: I see i386 packages to be installed
[00:13] <HelloWorld321> wylde: tx
[00:13] <bz> jetole: hitting 'q' closes windows or closes aptitude if no windows are left
[00:13] <jagginess> jetole, gui usually means "X" graphics.. yes aptitude also has an interface (but it's textual and not as easy as synaptic)
[00:14] <jetole> bz: yeah this is a 64 bit install and it has i386 packages listed as "to be installed"
[00:14] <bz> jetole: i think you're installing the wrong libgtk-3-dev, prolly one from your other non-main repos
[00:14] <jetole> jagginess: yeah I get it but I didn't know aptitude had an ncurses display
[00:14] <Thales> Plis, can someone suggest me an Audio Broadcaster for Ubuntu? Something like SAM Broadcaster...
[00:14] <bz> jetole: if you check here, http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/libgtk-3-dev you'll see that it depends on version 3.4.2-0ubuntu0.3 of git1.2-gtk-3.0
[00:14] <bz> jetole: whereas the one you're about to install depends on 3.4.1-0ubuntu1
[00:15] <jetole> bz: these i386 packages, how can I remove them from to be installed?
[00:15] <bz> jetole: yeah, just hit f10, then hit 'f'
[00:15] <jagginess> jetole, most what you see in console is ncurses.. (even if there's no textual/gui like interface)
[00:15] <bz> jetole: that's equivalent to aptitude keep-all anyway
[00:15] <jetole> bz: I'm also using wikimedia as my pkg provider. It may not have the up to date package I'm thinking
[00:16] <wylde> Thales: have you tried something like, say .... 'apt-cache search audio broadcast' ?
[00:16] <jetole> jagginess: ok. I get the point. My point is I didn't realize aptitude had that gui that I saw
[00:16] <Thales> wylde, yeap
[00:16] <bz> jetole: ye, so the quickest most hackish way i can think of is to download http://mirror.pnl.gov/ubuntu//pool/main/g/gtk+3.0/libgtk-3-dev_3.4.2-0ubuntu0.3_amd64.deb
[00:16] <jetole> then dpkg -i
[00:16] <bz> jetole: then maybe dpkg -i libgtk-3-dev_3.4.2-0ubuntu0.3_amd64.deb
[00:16] <jetole> ?
[00:16] <bz> jetole: ye, then use aptitude or apt-get to resolve your broken deps
[00:16] <jetole> bz: right. Ok. Let me see
[00:17] <jagginess> jetole, lol.. you don't get it.. When you say "graphics" you can't refer to console.. (you probably want to read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text-based_user_interface) -- acronym is TUI
[00:17] <three18ti> bz, this is where you'd use apt-get -f to install the missing dependencies right? (after the dpkg -i fails I mean)
[00:17] <jagginess> jetole, because you confused me as to what you're asking when you say "GUI". It's not text..
[00:17] <bz> three18ti: ye
[00:17] <three18ti> bz, ok, I was just a few steps ahead of myself.  thanks.,
[00:18] <bz> three18ti: :>
[00:18] <jetole> jagginess: when I was told it was a gui I assumed it was a X app he was referring to. Actually someone else said gui to me
[00:18] <jetole> jagginess: and it doesn't matter anymore anyways. We're kind of beating a dead horse here
[00:18] <jagginess> yes thats fine.. but just saying.. GUI means graphics.. it only confuses people..
[00:18] <jagginess> (and correct them)
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> bz: wget  http://mirror.pnl.gov/ubuntu//pool/main/g/gtk+3.0/libgtk-3-dev_3.4.2-0ubuntu0.3_amd64.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./libgtk-3-dev_3.4.2-0ubuntu0.3_amd64.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[00:20] <bz> ActionParsnip: thanks?
[00:20] <jagginess> jetole, well now you know.. synaptic is for gui, aptitude is in console.. not rocket science.. (people prefer synaptic than aptitude btw)
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> jagginess: aptitude has an ncurses gui, runs in terminal though..
[00:21] <zykotick9> don't use aptitude with 12.04 - it doesn't do multiarch
[00:21] <jetole> bz: yeah I just did a little research before I did the install and `apt-cache showpkg libgtk-3-dev` is showing version 3.4.1-0ubuntu1 from ubuntu.wikimedia.org. I'm honestly surprised wikimedia has a old package there. I expected better from them
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: ahhh, didn't know that (2nd new thing learned today)
[00:22] <jetole> jagginess: neat. Yeah I'm a console guy. I work with servers often anyways and I'm kind of stuck on apt-get even though I understand aptitude should be prefered but it's been hard to migrate
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: did you know in precise, the users who can use sudo are not in the 'admin' group now?
[00:22] <bz> jetole: btw, when you get aptitude to fix your dep, make sure you don't select the solution that uninstalls the libgtk-3-dev you just installed
[00:22] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: ya - sudo ;)
[00:22] <bz> jetole: that would be...ironic.
[00:22] <jagginess> jetole, in debian it is, but on ubuntu it doesnt look like aptitude is preferred over apt-get yet
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: yeah, weird huh
[00:23] <jetole> bz: I downloaded the .deb you mentioned but since I have updated my repos within the last hour and cleaned the cache and still showing an old pkg from mediawiki, I am considering changing pkg providers
[00:23] <jetole> jagginess: oh cool then
[00:23] <jagginess> jetole, you mean repositories? don't mix them with other distros
[00:23] <bz> jetole: don't need to. just install the one you downloaded; it'll supercede the one from mediawiki
[00:23] <RichTea> Arr it would appear there is just a bug with ubuntu USB boot, i tried all sort of way to make the usb boot disk, then i tried it on a diffrent usb device with a dd from the problem one
[00:23] <jetole> now aptitude shows packages to be installed that I don't want. How can I remove those?
[00:23] <jagginess> jetole, ?
[00:23] <bz> jetole: which pkgs?
[00:24] <jetole> bz: yes but I want to fix this problem in the future i.e. not have it be a re-occuring issue
[00:24] <jagginess> jetole, you mixing repos across distros? you shouldn't do that
[00:24] <bz> jetole: then don't mix and match as these other guys have been reciting
[00:24] <caravel> hi there, 10.04 on some notebook (MSI Wind U100), after connecting an external successfully (which wasn't he first time), some bug :
[00:25] <Guest20217> can anyone tell me which # i should go to for server advice?
[00:25] <jetole> bz: they are 4 packages with :i386 in the name on a 64 bit system. 3 were part of w32codecs that I installed from medibuntu. I have since purged all 4 but now it shows them to be installed again
[00:25] <RichTea> it appears that the usb boot will not work from mmc usb interface =)
[00:25] <caravel> basically, if the external screen is *not* connected, the internal screen is rotated *and* the following other bug (unrelated I assume) happens, making it impossible to restore the situation
[00:25] <RichTea> thorght i was just going mad
[00:25] <mackmoney3000> !Nick
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest20217: #ubuntu-server exists
[00:25] <jagginess> jetole, dont get confused with multiarch.. if you see i386 with your amd64 linux you'll be fine.
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest20217: or you can ask here too
[00:25] <caravel> [...] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/576311
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> hahaha
[00:25] <jetole> I am not mixing repos across distros or at least if I understand you properly I am not. mediawiki is a mirror of ubuntu but ubuntu had a outage on their servers last night so I selected a mirror
[00:25] <jagginess> jetole, you're not acquainted enough what multiarch is and is confusing to new users (that's why i mentioned synaptic)
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> caravel: tried unity2D?
[00:26] <bz> jetole: ah, so it's an official mirror?
[00:26] <jetole> jagginess: but I don't want these packages installed anymore at all anyways.
[00:26] <jetole> bz: yes
[00:26] <caravel> ActionParsnip: that's UNR, iirc
[00:26] <jagginess> jetole, apt-cache policy <packagename> also shows the repository source
[00:26] <bz> jetole: time to switch, maybe
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> caravel: no, UNR doesn't exist
[00:26] <jetole> well... I don't know what coins the term official. synaptic set it from selecting the fastest
[00:26] <jetole> bz: yes
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> caravel: Unity is the default shell in Ubuntu 12.04, you can use the 2D session and it doesn't use compiz. May help
[00:26] <jetole> bz: exactly what I meant. If the mirror has old packages I don't want this happening in the future
[00:27] <caravel> ActionParsnip: like I said, this is 10.04 still
[00:27] <jetole> and I've used anl.gov in the past
[00:27] <jetole> argonne national labs if I recall correctly
[00:27] <caravel> AFAIK, 10.04 isn't dead... yet
[00:27] <jetole> caravel: no it's not
[00:27] <jagginess> caravel, it is now. bang bang
[00:27] <cs_yng> Ubuntu 12.04 - I'm having issue with NetworkManager not starting during boot. Works find if I run "start network-manager". where is this enabled during boot?  "upstart" is a real pain
[00:27] <jetole> jagginess: lol
[00:27] <caravel> jagginess: no, it is not.
[00:27] <caravel> :)
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> caravel: tried not using compiz?
[00:28] <jetole> so...
[00:28] <caravel> anyway, that PC is 1000 miles away physically, and I won't do any such massive change over ssh
[00:28]  * jetole sets anl as the mirror, will do an update and try from apt-get again
[00:28] <caravel> hence I did stick to LTS
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> caravel: tried Precise to see if its better there, newer drivers and kernel and Xorg may help
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> caravel: 12.04 is LTS
[00:29] <caravel> ActionParsnip: you missread me I thnk :)
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> caravel: if its miles away, obviously screen updates will be slow
[00:29] <caravel> ActionParsnip: the reason why 10.04 is LTS until 2013 is precisely so that people can organize migration
[00:29] <caravel> ActionParsnip: of course, there is a user on front of the PC
[00:29] <caravel> *in front of
[00:30] <caravel> anyway
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> caravel: you never mentioned that....
[00:30] <gre_nouille> h
[00:30] <gre_nouille> i
[00:30] <gre_nouille> hi :)
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> caravel: could install LXDE, see if it's better
[00:30] <caravel> ActionParsnip: would I use X with external display over ssh ? :)
[00:31] <gre_nouille> i'm trying to set up vnc over ssh
[00:31] <gre_nouille> the ssh part is working but when i try to display the desktop it says :
[00:31] <gre_nouille> http://pastebin.com/hLrTsHJu
[00:31] <MonkeyDust> gre_nouille  your qustion being?...
[00:31] <caravel> ActionParsnip: no, I cannot do that. such solution is entirely overkill. De worked absolutely great until now. All I want here is to know if this is a known issue and restore functionality
[00:31] <gre_nouille> MonkeyDust, http://pastebin.com/hLrTsHJu
[00:31] <jetole> bz, jagginess: changing the mirror seems to have worked
[00:31] <MonkeyDust> gre_nouille  what's getpt?
[00:32] <croz> Anyone besides me have a problem with Skype for Linux when compared to the Windows version? The Windows version is so much nicer looking. Jeez.
[00:32] <bz> jetole: grats
[00:32] <jetole> I changed the mirrro, did a update and then ran apt-get install libgtk-3-dev and now it's installing
[00:32] <caravel> I don't know gnome config files, myself I am a KDE user hence am a bit lost. Where would be stored such persistent  screen rotation prefs ?
[00:32] <jetole> bz, jagginess: thanks
[00:33] <gre_nouille> MonkeyDust, it seems to be the file descriptor of a terminal
[00:33] <gre_nouille> MonkeyDust, so i cannot open a terminal in the remote server
[00:33] <dj_segfault> croz:  Are you using 4.x
[00:33] <MonkeyDust> gre_nouille  type !find getpt
[00:33] <jagginess> jetole, that's not a runtime library.. you're developing something?
[00:34] <croz> damn no
[00:34] <croz> im using 2.2.0.35
[00:34] <daemon7> man i need help i uninstalled this nouveau driver and want to install propr nvidia drivers but now when i start no terminal just black screen hanging
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> caravel: could make a fresh user and log on, see if it's caused by settings.
[00:34] <gre_nouille> !find getpt
[00:34] <jetole> jagginess: yeah I'm compiling gnubiff because the latest version which exceeds the repos has a fix for gtk3 issue which causes ugly icons in the taskbar so yeah, compiling gnubiff
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> caravel: installing another DE isn't overkill at all. It tests to see if the issue is with Gnome itself, or if it is the drivers and Xorg
[00:35] <dj_segfault> croz:  A new full-featured client was released about 2 months ago that brings Linux up to par.  Check out the website
[00:35] <jetole> jagginess: I think anything that ends in -dev isn't a runtime library
[00:35] <croz> ok checking it now woot!
[00:35] <croz> thanks buddy
[00:35] <dj_segfault> croz: NP
[00:35] <caravel> ActionParsnip: welcome screen is always good. User desktop is always good *if* external is connected, rotated if not. Only since connecting this external display today...
[00:35] <gre_nouille> that doesn't help much :(
[00:35] <daemon7> or any idea how to enable write access for the root console in recovery mode
[00:36] <MonkeyDust> gre_nouille  what do you want to do with getpt?
[00:36] <caravel> ActionParsnip: it's not even an option. User won't take the change (old person). Right now the external display has to remain plugged, full stop, until I can fix the uissue
[00:36] <daemon7> every time i try and install the nvidia drivers from there it says cant mkdir read only filsystem
[00:36] <jagginess> jetole, -dev is development source files..
[00:37] <jagginess> jetole, "apt-get -f install" <enter>
[00:37] <croz> dj_segfault: I installed it. It's a lot better than the one I had, but the Windows version is still much prettier.
[00:37] <linuxjones> why is it when i reboot none of my network interfaces show up untill i plug my phone in and turn usb teathering on? thats how i installed the system but will it stay like that or does anyone know how to fix it?
[00:37] <jagginess> jetole, did you really mix repos? y/n .. sounds like you're doing things you dont know what you're doing
[00:37] <jetole> jagginess: why would I use -f now?
[00:37] <jetole> jagginess: no
[00:38] <caravel> ActionParsnip: since welcome screen is always fine still, I can't imagine it would be X. Could it be ?
[00:38] <jetole> jagginess: I think you misunderstood some stuff then
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> caravel: try a new user, it may be ok with default gnome configs. Just to test
[00:38] <jetole> no I did not mix repos
[00:38] <jagginess> jetole, you can use -f anytime.. it tries to look for unfinished installs
[00:38] <ClientAlive> can someone please help me figure this out...
[00:38] <jetole> well, I didn't use a repo from from different ubuntu versions
[00:38] <gre_nouille> MonkeyDust, no idea
[00:38] <caravel> ActionParsnip: well, won't be fun remote but will do. Next, what if indeed new user profile is good ?
[00:38] <jetole> I changed my repo to an official mirror is all
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> caravel: sure, sudo adduser testname
[00:39] <MonkeyDust> gre_nouille  what were you doing, when this getpt error occured?
[00:39] <jetole> jagginess: and that change was done through synaptic finding the fastest repo for my locale
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> caravel: then just have him/her log in as the new user.
[00:39] <jagginess> jetole, -dev is not for runtime.. you didnt know this.. That's why i say you dont know what youre doing by simply installing it
[00:39] <caravel> ActionParsnip: I know :) Testing won't be fun
[00:39] <caravel> ActionParsnip: and migrate the whole profile ?
[00:39] <jetole> jagginess: yes I did know that. I explained why I needed it and then I told you I don't think any -dev pkg is ever for runtime
[00:39] <jetole> jagginess: I think you're a little confused here
[00:39] <jagginess> jetole, i'm asking what you need it for
[00:39] <jetole> to compile gnubiff
[00:40] <jetole> I mentioned that already
[00:40] <ClientAlive> I've been trying to figure out how to get spice working in kvm (ubuntu 12.04 guest). I found out about 2 packages (spice-vdagent and qemu-kvm-spice) and a third (qemu-linaro) which may include those first two. I'm not certain if this is what I'm looking for though. I don't want to break my system.
[00:40]  * caravel us looking for assistance in fixing a hole in the roof, not buliding a new house next to the first one
[00:40] <jagginess> jetole, apt-get install <random package> doesnt fix things necessarily..
[00:40] <jetole> jagginess: that's why I don't install random packages
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> caravel: its only to test, nothing more. Can you quit the theatrics please
[00:40] <gre_nouille> MonkeyDust, xvncviewer hostname:2
[00:40] <caravel> :=)
[00:40] <jetole> I mentioned I needed the -dev package to compile a program
[00:40] <jagginess> jetole, i gave you the command to check repository source for a package (see above)
[00:40] <MonkeyDust> gre_nouille  so a remote connection, right?
[00:41] <caravel> ActionParsnip: I'm asking, what would be next step ? I cannot do it right now, hence asking for next step
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> caravel: not sure, that's what I'd do
[00:41] <caravel> if indeed, as I expect, new profile is fine
[00:41] <gre_nouille> MonkeyDust, yes
[00:42] <jetole> jagginess: yes however I already resolved which mirror was providing the package and verified that the mirror was not up to date so I resolved the issue by changing my mirror and doing an update then installing the proper package which I have a legitimate requirement for needing it and it's now installed and everything seems to be working. my problems are resolved and I don't understand where you're going with this conversation
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> caravel: then you will need to start removing configs from the standing profile so that default ones can be generated at login
[00:42] <caravel> ActionParsnip: isn't there precise setting for these anywhere ?
[00:42]  * chalcedony smiles
[00:42] <MonkeyDust> gre_nouille what version are you running? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man3/getpt.3.html
[00:42] <chalcedony> good to see you ActionParsnip :))
[00:43] <jetole> jagginess: hence I think you may be a little confused at the moment. You have been helpful but I'm all set now. I was able to install the package I required and I require the package to compile a program
[00:43] <caravel> ActionParsnip: it just look like a basic geometry issue, badly remembered
[00:43] <jetole> jagginess: cool?
[00:43] <jagginess> jetole, you should file a bug to report the improper working mirror that's what you should do actually..
[00:43] <chalcedony> my friend has an IBM thinkpad t40 1500MHZ - with lubuntu - but he can't disable mouse gestures on it, is there some way to do it?
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> caravel: they are stored in the hidden folders in $HOME, it will take a long time to work out what is going on, better just to remove some then reboot, see if it's ok then you have isolated the problem folders
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> caravel: you may be able to use xrandr to set geometry
[00:44] <gre_nouille> MonkeyDust, the server is ubuntu 12.04
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> caravel: remember to run:  export DISPLAY 0.0
[00:45] <jetole> jagginess: I could. where do I file one? I switched to the mirror last night because ubuntu's official repos had outages. I was getting 404's on "Package" files when I did a update and when I tested it from a browser I found it was bouncing from 403 forbidden to 404 to 403 back and forth
[00:45] <caravel> ActionParsnip: :D that's right, xrandr is the tool to define. The bit I'm asking, I assume, is indeed under the home folder, within the gconf galaxy. My question is where should that be. I don't know is a good answer
[00:45] <caravel> :)
[00:45] <MonkeyDust> gre_nouille  is the page I gave you useful?
[00:45] <caravel> anyway, thanks ActionParsnip !
[00:45] <linuxjones> i installed ubuntu server 12.04 today via a usb stick and my cell phone usb teathered for the internet connection, everything went alright except now when i reboot, i have to attach my cell phone and turn on teathering before any of my network interfaces will show up, any idea as to how to fix this? any help would be great
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> caravel: not something I've had to mess with. I buy nvidia which has a nice gui app.
[00:47] <jagginess> jetole, making a ppa account is free https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[00:47] <jetole> is jagginess a bot?
[00:47] <jetole> bz? Is jaggines a bot?
[00:48] <bz> jetole: no idea
[00:48] <jagginess> jetole, you asked me where.. The 'a team' link provides you to whom you can report a problem..
[00:48] <Pinkamena_D> hi for a ninth time. can anyone help me through using iptables to run a process on another interface
[00:48] <jagginess> !ppa
[00:48] <jetole> jagginess: thanks for all of your help. bye.
[00:49] <Pinkamena_D> i have tried online tutorials for they were not specifically for what i was doing and it usually meant all the interfaces dies
[00:49] <Pinkamena_D> died*
[00:49] <Pinkamena_D> (no ssh)
[00:49] <chalcedony> i'm trying to help my friend who is sick and having problems, he has an IBM thinkpad t40 1500MHZ - with lubuntu - but how can we disable mouse gestures on it?
[00:50] <chalcedony> he's even tried putting tape on the sensor
[00:50] <bz> chalcedony: mouse gestures?
[00:50] <bz> chalcedony: you mean the touchpad?
[00:50] <chalcedony> bz, let me ask him
[00:52] <gre_nouille> MonkeyDust, no sorry :(
[00:52] <caravel> yeah. I am a nVidia User too, unfortunately. I've written extended reports about its external monitor handling and overlay mess with X, scripted stuff to monitor it closely its temperatures and VRAM. I know nVidia enough to call it noVideo and recommend absolutely NOT to use it under GNU/Linux :) But anyway, nice GUI is your freedom too. Good night ActionParsnip !
[00:52] <chalcedony> bz, he said: "i wanna disable the thing from seeing my hand movement thru the sensor on the latop"
[00:52] <gre_nouille> MonkeyDust, actually it's useful to understand the error
[00:52] <gre_nouille> MonkeyDust, but i don't know how to correct it
[00:52] <chalcedony> bz "its able to see thru 2 layers of adhesive tape so its a strong sensor"
[00:52] <jetole> bz: aptitude is showing the following packages as "Packages to be installed": w32codecs, gcc-4.6-base:i386, libc6:i386 and libgcc1:i386. The three i386 packages were dependencies of w32codecs however I removed all 4 using `apt-get purge <pkg>`. Can you tell me what it means that they are they, why they would be there and how I can remove them?
[00:52] <chalcedony> i bet he means touchpad
[00:53] <jetole> bz: please
[00:53] <chalcedony> bz, Ha! "its a light right beside the battery charging light, to the left"
[00:53] <MonkeyDust> gre_nouille  if you know how to search something on the internet, look for 'getpt errors' or so
[00:53] <jagginess> jetole, it's apt-get --purge remove <package>
[00:53] <OerHeks> jetole, aptitude is depreciated, it cannot handle multi-arch very well
[00:54] <OerHeks> !aptitude
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> caravel: in 11 years of Linux use, never had an issue
[00:54] <jetole> jagginess: `apt-get purge <pkg>` works as well
[00:54] <jagginess> OerHeks, oh really :) .. I never use aptitude baby! :))
[00:54] <jagginess> hehe
[00:54] <jetole> OerHeks: so I have heard and I seldom use it. Should I ignore this?
[00:54] <caravel> ActionParsnip: very lucky, given the amount of bz reports everywhere, you should testify :)
[00:54] <cs_yng> how to debug/trace "upstart"  boot hangs with "waiting for network config", eventually finishes w/out networking. found this to be because NetworkManager is *not* starting.  Trying to understand/fix "upstart" but documentation is lacking. i've added "—verbose" to the boot cmdline and I see more "init:" messages in /var/log/kern.log, but how/why NetworkManager should start is not clear.   bueller?
[00:54] <bz> jetole: means that aptitude still thinks they're to be installed
[00:54] <bz> jetole: aptitude => forget all
[00:55] <jetole> bz: so do I just... oh
[00:55]  * jetole looks 
[00:55] <bz> i don't care, i'm still free, you can't take my aptitude from me
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> caravel: I just let people shout, doesn't affect me
[00:55] <MonkeyDust> cs_yng  did you read this http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[00:56] <caravel> sorry bz, didn't mean to highlight your nick, but with such a nick on FLOSS chans you're looking for troubles :)
[00:56] <Saiki> I neeed a good comand-line debugger. anyone know of one in the distro?
[00:56] <bz> chalcedony: what kind of sensor are we talking about?
[00:56] <bz> chalcedony: nsa monitoring device?
[00:56]  * jetole shrugs. bz I don't really use aptitude though I just heard tonight it's unreliable on multi-arch. I'm ok no longer using it but always worried when I see things "pending" or errors even in a command I don't use or seldom use 
[00:56] <jagginess> Saiki, #bash (There's a bash debugger i heard but the bash people may say something better)
[00:56] <bz> chalcedony: i have a thinkpad t43, and i don't see any sensors near the leds
[00:57] <jagginess> jetole, seems like you didnt fix your problem. You really should back up what you have before losing anything important....
[00:57] <OerHeks> jetoile just run in terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and see if the problem comes back
[00:57] <chalcedony> bz,  his is a t40 i'm trying to narrow his definition
[00:57] <jetole> jagginess: I did fix my problem. This is another one.
[00:58] <jetole> bz: sorry, is "forget all" a option in the aptitude gui or... I don't understand
[00:58] <bz> jetole: aptitude forget-new
[00:59] <jagginess> jetole, make sure you didnt set any packages on hold, (you'll have to 'unhold' them with some command)
[00:59] <jetole> bz: oh. thanks
[00:59] <bz> jetole: regardless, this is only an issue if you use aptitude
[00:59] <bz> jetole: because it keeps its own internal list of packages to be installed or removed
[00:59] <jetole> bz: yeah and I really don't but I don't like leaving things lingering. I only tried aptitude earlier to see if it offered a solution for the dependencies
[01:00] <bz> jetole: ocd is good
[01:00] <jetole> bz: you just hit the nail on the head
[01:01] <jetole> forget-new didn't do it but maybe this is related to the multi-arch bug I heard about. Is there a way to reset the aptitude internal db to "factory defaults" as if I have never used aptitude?
[01:01] <jetole> @ bz
[01:01] <jetole> bz: btw, at OCD, yes you hit the nail on the head. spot on
[01:01] <jagginess> apt-get --purge remove aptitude ?
[01:02] <bz> jetole: um, you ran forget-new as root, right?
[01:02] <zykotick9> jagginess: fyi "apt-get purge foo" is fine
[01:02] <jetole> bz: yes
[01:04] <jetole> jagginess: according to the apt-get man page, `apt-get remove --purge` is running `apt-get purge` instead of `apt-get remove`. "remove --purge is equivalent to the purge command"
[01:04] <bz> jetole: are you able to paste something? maybe i'm understanding your problem wrong.
[01:05] <jetole> jagginess: I know older ubuntu, pre 10.04 didn't have a purge command and you had to use "remove --purge" but you can save yourself some typing now by just using `apt-get purge`
[01:05] <jagginess> jetole, dunno i use other distros..
[01:06] <jetole> bz: well it seems hard to copy and paste from inside the aptitude gui but I used the "g" command you mentioned when aptitude started and it lists those 4 packages as "Packages to be installed"
[01:06] <jagginess> jetole, do you know what it means something is deprecated?
[01:06] <jetole> if anyone knows where I can post random pics on the net I can take a screen shot of it pretty quickly
[01:06] <jagginess> OerHeks already said aptitude is deprecated
[01:06] <jetole> jagginess: old and planned to be removed
[01:07] <jagginess> (close but not true.. it means you should avoid it)
[01:07] <chalcedony> bz i found its manual but still guessing about what sensor he's talking about:http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail.page?LegacyDocID=MIGR-46464
[01:08] <jetole> jagginess: actually we're both right. An official deffinition is "past participle, past tense of dep·re·cate. verb: Express disapproval of.
[01:08] <bz> jetole: then select each of them and hit "-"
[01:08] <jetole> bz: ok. Let me see
[01:08] <ClientAlive> anyone?
[01:09] <ClientAlive> getting spice going on kvm??
[01:09] <chalcedony> bz, he says give up
[01:09] <jagginess> jetole, deprecated means avoid in simple sense. So if i were you I'd avoid anything deprecated rather than try to still use it.
[01:09] <jetole> bz: that did the trick. Thank you
[01:09] <jetole> jagginess: what am I still using that is deprecated?
[01:10] <jagginess> jetole, you're still back on problem#1 ..
[01:10] <jagginess> that's why..
[01:10] <jetole> jagginess: which is?
[01:10] <jetole> oh glad he quit
[01:11] <jetole> that guy was annoying the heck out of me
[01:11] <MissVera> Question. I installed, and it went perfectly, then loaded the OS. Then i turned off the computer. Turned it on later, and, after the post, I get a black screen, with a blinking cursor. I can still load it through the Live cd, but, without it, i just get the cursor
[01:11] <jetole> bz: Is there any way to set aptitude back to a "factory reset" so it's like I've never used it? You mentioned it's internal db that is different from what the rest of the system uses
[01:12] <bz> jetole: uninstall it
[01:12] <jetole> bz: and that's safe?
[01:12] <bz> jetole: yes
[01:12] <jetole> MissVera: that happened to me yesterday. I restarted the computer and it ran fine
[01:12] <jetole> MissVera: if it's re-occurring though then I don't know what the problem is
[01:12] <MissVera> jetole, I've restarted 9001 times. No luck
[01:13] <jetole> MissVera: you should have stopped after 3 or 4. lol
[01:13] <jetole> MissVera: kidding aside though, I don't know what to suggest on that one
[01:13] <MissVera> jetole, I only exaggerated a little :x
[01:14] <jetole> bz: tasksel goes with it... then again, I'm doing a purge and can then re-install it which should act like a fresh install after
[01:14] <jetole> I want to keep it but just reset it so that seems fine
[01:15] <jetole> done and done. Everything seems back to normality again. bz, again, thank you for the help
[01:16] <jetole> bz: you didn't cure my OCD but you helped me cope with it ;-)
[01:16] <n1ckn4me09876543> can anybody help me?  I have 2 monitor, I'd like to make 1st (main one)  landscape while the 2nd one as portrait view, how do I do it? i've look in Nvidia x Server  settings but couldn't find it. Do you know any program that can help me achieve this or command line
[01:16] <bz> jetole: anytime
[01:17] <jetole> :-)
[01:20] <gr33n7007h> n1ckn4me09876543, xrandr --orientation
[01:22] <n1ckn4me09876543> gr33n7007h: thnx
[01:23] <gr33n7007h> np
[01:42] <bestdnd> i want to back up a folder using cp command on console, and have the date appended to the target folder's name
[01:42] <bestdnd> how can i do that?
[01:43] <kristenB> I'm trying to make a file executable. So I write chmod 700 file. But file still stays only -rw-------. How can that be ?
[01:43] <kristenB> I am the owner of the file
[01:43] <wylde> kristenB: chmod +x
[01:44] <kristenB> same
[01:44] <kristenB> still remains rw
[01:45] <kristenB> adding sudo chmod 700 doesn't change the problem
[01:45] <kristenB> if I try with the nautilus interface, it doesn't work either. I try to select 'allow executing as a program' and it gets selected for 100ms or so and gets unselected automatically right away.
[01:45] <wylde> have you tried executing the file after doing 'chmod +x filename'?
[01:46] <kristenB> executing as in ./file .
[01:46] <kristenB> executing as in ./file  ?
[01:46] <kristenB> bash: ./file: Permission denied
[01:46] <wylde> hmm
[01:46] <psusi> kristenB, is this file on a fat or ntfs drive or something?
[01:47] <kristenB> and if I double click it with nautilus, it says There is no application installed for executable files. Do you want to search for an application to open this file?
[01:47] <escott> kristenB, what filesystem is it on
[01:47] <kristenB> no it's not fat or ntfs, it's on /
[01:47] <kristenB> ext4
[01:47] <glitsj16> kristenB: hi again .. found something that might be of interest (this time): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/748516
[01:47] <CIDR> Hrmm after a clean install, when I goto boot up it just sits at a pink/purple screen.  If I ctrl+alt+delete the next time it boots it goes to the grubs creen, then I hit enter and it boots.  But I have to boot once, then ctrl+alt+delete to get it to boot.  any ideas?
[01:47] <ardeay> its not fat!
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> kristenB: is the file on an NTFS partition?
[01:47] <kristenB> ActionParsnip: no
[01:47] <psusi> kristenB, what's the full path?
[01:48] <kristenB> the full path of the file ?
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> kristenB: are you the owner of the file?
[01:48] <escott> bestdnd, rsync is a better tool for that
[01:48] <psusi> kristenB, yes
[01:48] <kristenB> ActionParsnip: yes
[01:48] <kristenB> psusi: /home/kristen/Download/eclipse/eclipse
[01:48] <kristenB> psusi: /home/kristen/Downloads/eclipse/eclipse
[01:48] <endra> Hello
[01:49] <psusi> kristenB, hrm... odd... and if you run `mount` /home isn't mounted somewhere else?
[01:49] <escott> bestdnd, in a script "date=`date +%Y%m%d`" then later rsync -axP --exclude-from=exclude.dirs --link-dest=../current/ $folder $backuppath/$date; finally ln -s $backuppath/current
[01:49] <escott> bestdnd, in a script "date=`date +%Y%m%d`" then later rsync -axP --exclude-from=exclude.dirs --link-dest=../current/ $folder $backuppath/$date; finally ln -s $backuppath/$date $backuppath/current
[01:49] <kristenB> psusi: come again ?
[01:50] <psusi> kristenB, type "mount" in the terminal and make sure some other partition is not mounted in /home
[01:50] <psusi> kristenB, i.e. you are sure this is on the / filesystem?
[01:50] <CMO> hi all am asking u for some nb help am using a dns software called dnsmasq and am trying to use it as dynamic dns server for my router such as dyndns and i am a lan user when i set the settings in router it works on my pc but does not work on others can anybody help me ??
[01:50] <endra> I get this after aptitude dist-upgrade on 12.04 when trying to reboot: http://pastebin.com/WJ6TRrHJ - is this common?
[01:51] <Corey> CMO: Are you setting the router to pass out that DNS server to clients via DHCP?  IF so, you may have to renew and release their leases.
[01:51] <CMO> one minute al check
[01:51] <CMO> no idea am using Thomson TG789vn
[01:52] <kristenB> psusi: oh maybe that's it. Downloads is actually a link to another drive, which might be in ntfs since it was used by windows previously
[01:52] <psusi> kristenB, bingo
[01:52] <CMO> am trying to use it as dyndns server
[01:52] <kristenB> psusi: how can I check what's the file system of a mount partition ?
[01:53] <CMO> is called Dynamic DNS Service
[01:53] <ardeay> typically, if its not fat, i'll mount its partition
[01:53] <psusi> kristenB, df -T
[01:54] <escott> CMO, im confused. what does dyndns have to do with dnsmasq?
[01:54] <CMO> Dynamic DNS can be used to point a fixed host name (e.g host.a-domain.com) to the public (or WAN) IP address assigned by your Internet Service Provider (typically a dynamic IP address). This allows servers located on your Local Network (configured using Game & Application Sharing) to be accessible using this alias rather than the IP address assigned by your Internet Service Provider.
[01:54] <wylde> CMO: so what you're saying is, you're trying to provide dyndns to other people/computers on the internet through your router?
[01:54] <kristenB> the type is fuseblk. I don't know that. Is it a file system ?
[01:54] <CMO> am actully trying to set a dns server same as dyndns
[01:54] <escott> kristenB, "user space filesystem driver" ie most likely NTFS
[01:54] <psusi> kristenB, that's typically what ntfs shows up as
[01:55] <CMO> ive set Dynamic DNS service:	custom
[01:55] <sparky_> Can someone help? Whenever I download something and try and open it, it opens default with the Archive Manager, and I always get an error similar to this: http://pastebin.com/Jq4Z54cr
[01:56] <kristenB> ok. So is it possible to change the filesystem without losing what's in the previous one ?
[01:56] <escott> CMO, "a dns server same as dyndns" what does that mean?
[01:57] <CMO> am trying to control the dns in the local area network to be able to control the network requests
[01:57] <escott> sparky_, it is assuming it is a self-extracting exe, but its not. so maybe install wine
[01:57] <CMO> without any spoofing
[01:57] <sparky_> Wine? ok
[01:57] <escott> CMO, what network's requests
[01:57] <escott> !info wine | sparky_
[01:57] <CMO> http network requests
[01:57] <kristenB> ok, I moved everything that was in the drive. There was not much. How can I change the filesystem to ext4 ?
[01:58] <escott> kristenB, you would have to copy all the data to a new location and reformat
[01:58] <CMO> when pc connects to a website it asks the dns server the ip of the requested server
[01:58] <kristenB> escott: the copy is done
[01:58] <kristenB> escott: now how to reformat
[01:58] <escott> kristenB, then gparted will provide a nice gui and let you reformat
[01:59] <kristenB> I don't have gparted. Do you know how to do it with parted ?
[01:59] <escott> CMO, yes. all you are describing is running a DNS on your LAN. is that all you want?
[01:59] <PAPI> Hello
[01:59] <anonymous_> ??
[02:00] <anonymous_> ??
[02:00] <PAPI> Can anybody tellme how to strech my wallpaper to my resolution settings?
[02:00] <psusi> kristenB, why not just install gparted?
[02:01] <escott> kristenB, sure. just change the partition label and type. im not sure if parted cli will do the formatting for you. if it doesnt then you would need to mkfs.ext4 /dev/whatever
[02:01] <CMO> yepp it works and i went in to router control panel and set the dynamic dns server to my ip so when i requst eg. www.msn.com i get redirected to my hostname that is running a webserver but the problem is it only works on my machine and not others in lan
[02:02] <CMO> and it gives me the message IP address:	0.0.0.0 but the Hostname:	192.168.1.65 (Update needed)
[02:02] <escott> CMO, you keep saying dynamic. and its not dynamic. this is a normal DNS you are describing. the other members of the LAN are not using that DNS they are using the DNS as proscribed by DHCP coming from your router. you need to make your router report the ip of your computer as the DNS or manually configure those machines to use that DNS
[02:03] <CMO> this is a dum question mate but whats the diffrense between dynamic and default dns server
[02:03] <CMO> and could i set up an dynamic dns server
[02:05] <escott> CMO, dyndns is a service that attaches dns entries to computers that migrate. every time you connect you might get a different ip, but you send a message to then dyndns service provider and they update their entries so that your symbolic name whatever.dyndns.com points to your most recent location
[02:05] <bazhang> CMO, thats not really an ubuntu question, try ##networking
[02:06] <gr33n7007h> well explained escott
[02:06] <CMO> ok ill try to contact them bazhang mate but one last question to escott can i setup a dns server same as dyndns and if so does it exist any programs for linux based operating system
[02:07] <escott> CMO, why do you want to run a dyndns server?
[02:08] <wylde> CMO: it sounds like you  want a proxy not dns anyway. You might possibly consider understanding exactly what it is you're asking for rather then dimply confusing the  people trying to help you.
[02:08] <wylde> simply*
[02:10] <PAPI> anybody knows how to adjust the wallpaper to my monitor resolution?
[02:10] <endra> How can I recover from this: http://pastebin.com/WJ6TRrHJ
[02:11] <CMO> escott i wish to run it so i can control the dns replys in lan i would like to use a proxy server but i cant redirect any connection throw it without going to all the pc and configurate them but the router support dynamic dns sorry for all the confusion people am gonne turn to network channel but it was really hard to explain
[02:11] <escott> endra, can you run "cat /proc/cmdline" (that may not work in busybox but worth a try) and note the UUID
[02:11] <escott> endra, then boot the livecd and run "sudo blkid" and make sure it matches
[02:11] <kristenB> I can't unmount the partition I'd like to format because it says 'Cannot unmount because file system on device is busy'. What should I do ?
[02:11] <CMO> kristenB try umount with force
[02:12] <kristenB> CMO: how
[02:12] <CMO> one minute all send a link to a picture
[02:12] <escott> kristenB, how have you tried to unmount?
[02:12] <kristenB> right click and unmount :)
[02:12] <endra> escott: problem is this is occurring on rackspacecloud so I cannot boot the live cd.
[02:12] <escott> CMO, is this like a coffeeshop where you dont want people to get online without paying you?
[02:13] <escott> endra, well somebody from rackspace is going to have to work on it
[02:13] <endra> escott: I have access to console so perhaps I can try to chroot
[02:13] <CMO> http://tournasdimitrios1.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/dynamic-dns.jpg
[02:14] <escott> endra, but if xvda1 isn't there for some reason...
[02:14] <endra> escott: it is there. I can mount it
[02:14] <CMO> escott exactly but am trying to do this throw dynamic settings in router
[02:15] <escott> endra, what is /proc/cmdline
[02:15] <wylde> CMO: what you are looking at is for using your router to update it's WAN ip address with a dynamic DNS service. That has nothing at all to do with LAN DNS.
[02:16] <escott> CMO, that dyndns is as i explained earlier. its unrelated to dnsmasq. it allows you to establish a dns entry for your unfixed residential address
[02:16] <escott> kristenB, try "udisks --unmount /media/whatever"
[02:16] <endra> escott: root=UUID=/dev/xvda1 ro quiet splash
[02:17] <psusi> kristenB, figure out what is still using files on that drive and shut it down
[02:17] <CIDR> Hrmm after a clean install, when I goto boot up it just sits at a pink/purple screen.  If I ctrl+alt+delete the next time it boots it goes to the grubs creen, then I hit enter and it boots.  But I have to boot once, then ctrl+alt+delete to get it to boot.  any ideas?
[02:17] <endra> escott: let me get a clean boot and give you that output.
[02:17] <psusi> kristenB, the program `lsof` can be helpful for this
[02:17] <escott> endra, i think that might be why. it should be root=/dev/xvda1 not root=UUID=...
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> wylde: i've been telling him/her this for ages
[02:17] <escott> endra, at least i would think
[02:17] <endra> escott: how do I change that value?
[02:17] <wylde> ActionParsnip: yeah, I saw earlier. I was mostly lurking
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: ou don't need a dns server to translate your WAN IP to a name, you just need a small client app to upgrade your IP incase it changes via DHCP from your ISP
[02:18] <Grant_P> Yep its 100% the new kernel -26 has broken sound for me on Precise. Rolling back to -25 fixes the issue. Shutting down pulseaudio processes and rm -rf pulse configuration in home dir, does not fix problem.
[02:18] <CIDR> huh?
[02:18] <CMO> aha so cant i use a server to update it's wan's dns settings
[02:18] <escott> endra, if you can get to the grub boot menu you could edit the boot entry. alternately you could chroot in and modify /etc/default/grub or directly modify /boot/grub/grub.cfg only changing /etc/default/grub and running update-grub would be permanent
[02:18] <BlueEagle> !bugs | Grant_P
[02:18] <wylde> ActionParsnip: and you're a better man than I, I don't think I could have had anywhere near your patience with that other fellow you were "trying" to help.
[02:19] <psusi> escott, no, filesystems are located by UUID so that it doesn't matter if their device name changes between reboots
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: the ONLY time you need a DNS service is if you want to make names translate to something else on the LAN or redirect a name to a different IP, it is a feature in home grade routers so is rarely needed in home situations
[02:19] <escott> psusi, but his boot entry specifies UUID= and then gives a dev entry
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> wylde: I have a lot of time, work is dead
[02:19] <CMO> i probebly need to research some more thanks for all help u've been the BEST
[02:20] <wylde> :)
[02:20] <CMO> ActionParsnip thats exactly what i want mate
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> CMO: if you want easy wan access to your network, get a no-ip account then install the noip2 package and it will update the ip regularly
[02:20] <psusi> escott, ohh, yea... he must have goofed it up
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> CMO: you can then forget your own ip and use the name
[02:21] <escott> endra, you would be better off to use a UUID if you have it. and "sudo blkid" will tell you what that is, but to boot for now it should be sufficient to remove the UUID=
[02:21] <psusi> endra, did you directly edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg?  you shouldn't do that
[02:21] <wylde> CMO:  IF you're wanting to filter or redirect traffic leaving your network you need a proxy.
[02:21] <endra> escott: this all happened after the latest updates to the kernel/grub. Anyone else experiencing these?
[02:21] <CMO> the only thing am trying to do is redirect all the website request's to my server that am running on my pc without have to run any spoofing software
[02:22] <endra> psusi: no. I did update-grub but it cannot update because it is mounted as readonly
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> CMO: so like a [roxy for web access
[02:22] <escott> endra, then mount -o remount,rw .
[02:22] <escott> endra, then mount -o remount,rw /
[02:22] <psusi> endra, and why is it mounted read only?
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> CMO: and cache the data, speed up the web
[02:22] <wylde> CMO: I see no real reason to do that that isn't related to some shady activity
[02:22] <Grant_P> BlueEagle: ubottu: Good point, thanks.
[02:22] <ssp_> (noob) i am trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 - using sudo do-release-upgrade. While upgrading, it asked me whether I wanted to keep or upgrade the existing version. I chose to  display the differences. Now I cannot get out of this screen with the differences. How can I get out of this without aborting the installation?
[02:22] <CMO> exactly ActionParsnip
[02:23] <BlueEagle> ssp_: The Q-button iirc
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> CMO: thats NOTHING to do with DNS.
[02:23] <CMO> well am just trying to charge people for using my network
[02:23] <endra> escott, psusi: I don't know why it's mounted read-only. I tried mount -o remount,rw / but it gave me some sort of error that I forgot now.
[02:23] <BlueEagle> ssp_: That or the escape key.
[02:23] <ssp_> BlueEagle, thanks a lot!
[02:23] <psusi> ssp_, 10.10 has reached end of life, you shouldn't even be able to upgrade to it at this point
[02:23] <escott> endra, then fsck it
[02:23] <kristenB> I'm trying to copy a file to my newly created partition, but it says permission denied
[02:24] <ssp_> :-)
[02:24] <rypervenche> fsck ya!
[02:24] <CMO> so do i setup a proxy server then how do i redirect all lan users to this proxy
[02:24] <psusi> ssp_, you should be upgrading to 12.04
[02:24] <escott> kristenB, since it is ext4 you need to change the permissions on the mountpoint or create a folder and give your user ownership
[02:24] <kristenB> escott: how do I do that ?
[02:24] <ssp_> psusi - I am trying to do that. However, it seems that I need to upgrade to 10.10, then to 11.xx and then to 12.04?
[02:24] <escott> kristenB, sudo chown username:username /media/whatever
[02:25] <psusi> ssp_, nope, you can upgrade straight from one lts ( 10.04 ) to the next ( 12.04 )
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> CMO: you want a caching proxy server like squid or polipo
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> CMO: you can log accesses and such and then direct all the web traffic from the nodes to that system#
[02:26] <ssp_> psusi, I did this so far: (1) sudo apt-get install update-manager-core (2) Edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal (3) sudo do-release-upgrade
[02:26] <BlueEagle> CMO: Just to make sure; You have a box that sits between the internet and a bunch of clients and those clients do receive internet connection from this machine. You want any and all web requests to go trough this machine to access the webserver on this machine.
[02:26] <ssp_> Am I doing this right? Right now it is step 3
[02:26] <psusi> ssp_, doing all 4 upgrades, one after the other, would take FOREVER.   You would be better off just reinstalling from scratch with12.04
[02:26] <kristenB> escott: ok it's working now. Why is there a lost+found folder there ?
[02:26] <ssp_> Is there a way to do that now, psusi? I am doing the do-release-upgrade now
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> kristenB: all partitions have that
[02:27] <escott> kristenB, every ext partition has a lost+found. in case of corruption file fragments will end up there
[02:27] <psusi> kristenB, because all ext[234] filesystems have that in their root
[02:27] <kristenB> ok thanks :)
[02:27] <psusi> ssp_, probably not
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> ssp_: I'd clean install, you will download a lot less data and it will give you a cleaner OS
[02:27] <Lymphocyte> How do you hide a folder?
[02:27] <CMO> so should i be like a gateway connected to the router which will offer the clients wireless network and then get redirected to me?
[02:28] <wylde> Lymphocyte:  start it's name with a .
[02:28] <escott> !crosspost | Lymphocyte
[02:28] <ssp_> AcidRain2012, psusi, I have a lot of data on this machine. Won't I lose it if I do a clean install?
[02:28] <Lymphocyte> sorry
[02:28] <BlueEagle> CMO: Oh... Wireless. That will be a bit more tricky. Is OpenWRT (or any derivates) an alternative?
[02:29] <Lymphocyte> wylde: thanks have a good night!
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> CMO: yes, you push all data via the proxy then to the router
[02:29] <CIDR> Hrmm after a clean install, when I goto boot up it just sits at a pink/purple screen.  If I ctrl+alt+delete the next time it boots it goes to the grubs creen, then I hit enter and it boots.  But I have to boot once, then ctrl+alt+delete to get it to boot.  any ideas?
[02:29] <psusi> ssp_, if you do a clean install, choose manual partitioning, and make sure NOT to check the format box and your data will be left alone... just the OS replaced
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: what video chip do you use?
[02:30] <escott> CIDR, if you hit the up arrow does it say anything useful
[02:30] <CMO> thanks all am going to search google a bit when i find the solution i will send it here THANKS SO MUTCH ALL
[02:30] <CIDR> escott no?
[02:30] <psusi> ssp_, though of course, you should *always* have your data backed up, especially before doing something like upgrading the OS
[02:31] <ssp_> psusi, thanks for those tips.
[02:31] <kristenB> I think I have a drive that is damaged. How can I know for sure ? If I go to gparted, there's a red exclamation mark on it, and it says:  warning: unable to detect file system. possible reasons: fs is damaged, fs is unknown to gparted, there is no fs available (unformatted), the device entry /dev/sdab1 is missing. What can I do from there?
[02:32] <escott> kristenB, run "sudo partprobe"
[02:32] <BlueEagle> kristenB: "sdab1"?
[02:32] <kristenB> BlueEagle: typo. I meant sdb1
[02:32] <CIDR> ActionParsnip it's a ATI HD 7770
[02:32] <BlueEagle> kristenB: On this disk, do you have any primary partitions or only logical ones?
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: get updated then install the proprietary driver, should help
[02:33] <CIDR> ActionParsnip I have.
[02:33] <kristenB> BlueEagle: on this disk, I don't have anything anymore. I think it's dead. I'd like to make sure.
[02:33] <BlueEagle> kristenB: Ie. if you only have logical partitions you have only sdb5 and higher.
[02:33] <CIDR> It's a fully updated 12.04 install, with the drivers downloaded from ATI...
[02:33] <sacarlson> kristenB: can your run sudo fsck /dev/sdb1 ; ?
[02:33] <kristenB> escott: I run sudo partprobe, it didn't returned any output
[02:33] <CMO> am comming back as soon i find anything
[02:33] <escott> kristenB, then reopen gparted and see if there error is still there
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: is system a laptop?
[02:34] <BlueEagle> kristenB: Before you started having these issues, did you have any primary partitions? Also could you tell more about the disk and file systems that were present?
[02:34] <CIDR> No.
[02:34] <kristenB> escott: yes it's still there even after gparted has been restarted
[02:35] <escott> kristenB, then what does "sudo parted -l /dev/sdb" say?
[02:35] <bz> what happened to your b?
[02:35] <kristenB> sacarlson: http://pastebin.com/1vbkJLVd
[02:36] <CIDR> It just makes 0 sense, that when I boot the first time, or reboot it from inside of ubuntu it just sits at the purple pinkish screen until I ctrl+alt+delete, then it reboots, and will bootup fine once I hit enter on grub
[02:36] <psusi> kristenB, is this the partition you just tried to reformat from ntfs to ext4?
[02:37] <kristenB> BlueEagle: Before I started having these issues, which were a few months ago since it's been a while I haven't touched this drive, after I've found out I was having difficulties with it, I had only one primary ntfs partition. It's a 2TB drive.
[02:37] <psusi> kristenB, you might open the disk utility and check the SMART status of the drive to make sure it is still healthy
[02:37] <CIDR> ctrl+alt+f1,f2 etc.. doesn't drop me into a shell or anything either.
[02:38] <kristenB> escott: http://pastebin.com/TpqSiviF
[02:38] <psusi> kristenB, is this the partition you just tried to convert from ntfs to ext4?
[02:39] <kristenB> psusi: no it's a completely different issue, sorry for the confusion
[02:39] <escott> kristenB, doesn't have a listed filesystem on it
[02:39] <psusi> kristenB, ohh... in that case, then it doesn't seem to contain a valid filesystem... you'll need to format it
[02:39] <escott> kristenB, either (a) you never created a filesystem on it or (b) you created the filesystem but never set the type in the table
[02:40] <kristenB> escott: psusi: BlueEagle: smart status: (green) Disk has a few bad sectors
[02:42] <kristenB> in gparted, the filesystem is 'unknown', as opposed to 'unallocated' if there were no filesystem set up.
[02:43] <kristenB> What should I do ? Should I just try to reformat it ?
[02:43] <BlackDalek> my laptop won't boot - get message at bootup, starting LightDM Manger [failed]
[02:44] <BlackDalek> My desktop manager won't start. "Starting LightDm Display Manager [failed]"
[02:45] <penguin359> Hello
[02:45] <gaelfx> BlackDalek: can you still log in using CLI? (press ctl+alt+f2)
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: are there any bugs reported?
[02:46] <penguin359> It appears the ulimit for open files defaults to 1024 on my system from bootup.
[02:46] <BlackDalek> gaelfx: I am using CLI now. Connected to IRC using irssi
[02:46] <penguin359> How do I increase that for all startup processes?
[02:46] <CIDR> I've been googling around, but it's a hard thing to search for
[02:46] <gaelfx> BlackDalek: did you try to reinstall lightdm?
[02:46] <aristidesfl> hi, I'm trying to run something on startup using screen/tmux, but screen/tmux just exit after a while when called from the upstart job with `sudo start cgminer`. If I use the same command which is inside the upstart job, in the command line it works fine. here is the script: http://hastebin.com/faqixeveji
[02:46] <penguin359> All the daemons from rc2.d are being set with that limit it seems.
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: I'd report a new bug. Very strange
[02:47] <CIDR> Yeah, it's just really bizarre
[02:48] <CIDR> like the keyboard num lock and what not still works
[02:48] <aristidesfl> now with quotes http://hastebin.com/hiridujuxa.sql
[02:48] <CIDR> but I just can't get it to display anything useful
[02:48] <escott> !reisub | CIDR
[02:48] <escott> CIDR, then check the logs
[02:48] <CIDR> escott what logs?
[02:49] <penguin359> Hmm, even init's ulimit for open files is 1024, where do I specify that?
[02:49] <CIDR> escott like the system isn't even booting yet I don't thin.  Magic sysrq does nothing
[02:49] <escott> CIDR, kern.log, xorg
[02:49] <escott> CIDR, i thought you had the purple plymouth splash? is it the purple grub?
[02:50] <CIDR> there's no "splash" just a purple screen
[02:50] <CIDR> so I guess grub
[02:50] <gaelfx> CIDR: if it were grub, you would get choices about which kernel image to boot, is it that, or is the screen literally all purple?
[02:50] <escott> CIDR, well that would point to a bios issue
[02:51] <CIDR> It's literally just all purple
[02:51] <CIDR> gaelfx after I hit ctrl+alt+delete and the system reboots then I get a grub screen with choices
[02:51] <CIDR> I hit enter and it boots fine
[02:51] <soothsayer> how do you install a radeon 9550 or ati RV350 into ubuntu 12.04?
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: could remove the boot options: quiet splash     see what happens
[02:52] <gaelfx> CIDR: so you can check the logs for errors that happen during that boot? You might want to look into the syslogs for the time that you booted and the purple screen came up
[02:53] <gaelfx> CIDR: or listen to ActionParsnip cause he probably knows more about it than I
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> worth a shot, i've no idea why its happening
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> just a useful step
[02:54] <CIDR> I'm checking it out
[02:54] <CIDR> yeah, I'd like to ditch the splash screen I don't need pretty
[02:54] <CIDR> working on it now
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[02:55] <CIDR> Yeah I'm in there
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: :)
[02:55] <CIDR> just updated grub, rebooting now
[02:55] <CIDR> hopefully now this will at least shed some light on what it's doing?
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: dhopefully
[02:57] <CIDR> takes my system a bit to boot
[02:57] <CIDR> it's a super micro serverboard, with ipmi and all that, and hardware raid
[02:57] <CIDR> WTF even after taking splash and quiet out this thing is still just at a pink screen
[02:58] <BlackDalek> gaelfx: tried re-installing lightDM... still failed to boot. It gives up between the ubuntu logo and the login screen. It dies once the 5 dots light up.
[02:58] <CIDR> woah
[02:58] <CIDR> I didn't touch a thing
[02:59] <CIDR> and it magically booted?
[03:00] <Saiki> [21:45] <Saiki> does anyone know how to fix this error?:http://nsa30.casimages.com/img/2012/07/02/120702044104682163.jpg
[03:00] <gaelfx> BlackDalek: did you check dmesg for errors relating to lightdm?
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: reboot again to test :)
[03:02] <gaelfx> lather, rinse, repeat
[03:02] <escott> CIDR, is the bootloader on the hardware raid
[03:02] <CIDR> ActionParsnip already ahead of you
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: sweet
[03:02] <CIDR> escott yes
[03:02] <CIDR> it's working now?
[03:03] <CIDR> No idea why?  Just from removing those options?  makes 0 sense
[03:03] <escott> CIDR, i wonder if that is just taking some time to come up from a cold start
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: maybe the system has difficulty going from plymouth to the login screen
[03:06] <CIDR> ActionParsnip I'm not sure?
[03:06] <CIDR> brb moving to my box
[03:07] <CIDR> more better
[03:07] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: no idea but sacrificing something as trivial as a bot splash is worth it for successful boots
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> *boot
[03:08] <CIDR> ActionParsnip: agreed, i could case less about a splash screen
[03:08]  * dr_willis wonders how much man  hours haave been  basically wasted on getting a nice boot splash going...
[03:09] <CIDR> probably A TON
[03:09] <dr_willis> makes me wonder what will hapen when we eventually move to Wayland.
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: people love eyecandy..
[03:10] <dr_willis> most dont even notice it.. till it breaks.  ;)
[03:10] <CIDR> heh
[03:10] <Saiki> [21:45] <Saiki> does anyone know how to fix this error?:http://nsa30.casimages.com/img/2012/07/02/120702044104682163.jpg
[03:10] <escott> speaking of breaking. ubuntu is so much worse than OS X and windows. you can tell by how little attention has been dedicated to making the kernel crash screens look good
[03:11] <Daekdroom> What kernel crash screens?
[03:11] <BlackDalek> gaelfx: there is something in dmesg which says "init: lightdm main process (939) terminated with status 1" - I don't know if that is relevant or not? :(
[03:12] <dr_willis> Somthing else i noticed thats sort of 'broken' today. with Firefox 13 the default homepage has some setting/quick config/ssync/buttons at the bottom of the page  EXCEPT in ubuntu :) due to the ubuntu extension thats enabled by default.. not sure if thats a bug.. or just an oversight due to the  new changes in FF.
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: i'd ask in #apache
[03:12] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: ##php told me to ask here, so I can play musical channels a bit I suupose.
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: asking in lots is good
[03:14] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: or it could just get annoying to everyone, if they're in all of them lol
[03:15] <soothsayer> I have a problem with my video I have a radeon 9550 or other wise known as a RV350 I am trying to install it in ubuntu 12.04.. any one out there can help? i have tried fglrx and the drivers from ati site. but can't get no where.
[03:15] <CIDR> soothsayer: What problem are you running info?
[03:15] <CIDR> ermm into
[03:16] <soothsayer> when I use the fglrx driver i get the pretty blank screen when I use the drivers for amd/ati I run into kernel issues.. because I am running a recent kernel.
[03:16] <CIDR> I have a HD7770 ATI just released drivers on the 28th, do you have updated drivers as well?
[03:17] <gaelfx> BlackDalek: well, that just tells us that it failed, which we already know, but does it have a time stamp by it? Maybe you can hunt down the previous errors using that info if it's there
[03:17] <dr_willis> you mean the fglrx drivers from the repos. Vs. the Drivers from the ati site (which are newer fglrx drivers)
[03:17] <soothsayer> No.. I  tried to download 9.3 and then download the recent cat. but it crashes from there i had it detect one time as a galluim?
[03:18] <CIDR> Crashes when/where?
[03:19] <soothsayer> yeah I have tried from the repos and i have tried from other sources.. the crashes happen when the driver loads. basically boot screen. either goes blank. won't load at all or just gives a grub prompt.. kinda random on that.
[03:19] <CIDR> I'm kind of scared of the mix of what all has been installed
[03:19] <soothsayer> I have even tried a fresh install.. and got nothing.
[03:19] <CIDR> I'd remove all fglrx things, download the latest cat, and try an install
[03:20] <soothsayer> me too.. hahaha... but i am trying to get it working..
[03:20] <soothsayer> last cat that comes up is 9.3 for driver.. 11.4 for cat
[03:20] <CIDR> Seems about right?
[03:21] <soothsayer> but the driver isn't installing because it requires a lower kernel. iwhich means I would have to change the kernels and such to get it to go down to be able to install amd drivers..
[03:21] <CIDR> That's odd.
[03:21] <soothsayer> that is what i thought.
[03:21] <CIDR> then again the cat version I have is 12.6
[03:21] <CIDR> so it's significantly newer
[03:22] <soothsayer> a web site was telling me it was a 2.6 kernel i had to use.. nah this is only a 256 meg.
[03:22] <soothsayer> my one gig card wouldn't hook up to this x8 agp and this is only sloted for x4
[03:23] <WeThePeople> is there a command to find out what router brand is being used on a network?
[03:23] <OerHeks> WeThePeople, ask the administrator?
[03:23] <CIDR> WeThePeople: check out the mac address, then look it up
[03:23] <litropy> WeThePeople, do oyu have the MAC address?
[03:23] <gaelfx> soothsayer: are you sure it didn't say >=2.6? Are you talking about the unoffical AMD Linux site?
[03:23] <WeThePeople> good idea
[03:23] <CIDR> run a nmap against it?
[03:23] <WeThePeople> thanks
[03:23] <sacarlson> WeThePeople: might try from a browser to http to the gateway address of your service
[03:24] <soothsayer> it was the official site and it was saying 2.6 yes.. 2.6.2 I think.
[03:24] <fabioluciano> WebDawg, Get your gateway adress and use telnet to communicate with.
[03:24] <soothsayer> and this is running kernel 2.8 or something like that.. i know it is close to 3.
[03:24] <litropy> WeThePeople, http://www.coffer.com/mac_find/
[03:24] <fabioluciano> there is no way to do that in simple way
[03:25] <WeThePeople> its a gemtek
[03:25] <litropy> WeThePeople, :)
[03:25] <dr_willis> never heard of that brand..
[03:26] <WeThePeople> oerheks, cidr, litropy, sacarlson, thanks
[03:26] <CIDR> soothsayer: hrmmm
[03:26] <fabioluciano> WebDawg, that information are from your network board, dont?
[03:26] <CIDR> soothsayer: and that's the newest version?
[03:27] <soothsayer> yeah I know right.. i have been bashing my poor keyboard to death with trying everything i could think of.
[03:27] <soothsayer> yeah those are the only version that work with my card.. because it is old and they dropped support for it.
[03:28] <litropy> dr_willis, it's a generic taiwanese brand. I haven't heard anything bad, but I haven't heard anything good, either.
[03:28] <soothsayer> wonder if they make a x4 nvidia that would be a gig of memory?
[03:28] <CIDR> x4 ?
[03:29] <soothsayer> yeah this is a 1.8 amd. but i can't find anything that works with video. but i sure can get another video card.. just a greedy frengi.
[03:30] <litropy> CIDR, soothsayer, I'm trying to gether what's going on ... you have a video card that's got compatibility issues?
[03:30] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/7qa1GzfX
[03:30] <CIDR> litropy: nah I'm fine
[03:30] <CIDR> it's soothsayer
[03:31] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: Looks like I'll be never-ending looping
[03:31] <soothsayer> yes litropy I have and older card RV350 or radeon 9550 and it is having a serious driver issue. the kernel is too high to use the older driver because they wanted natty or less and there isn't any support on the newer versions because they dropped support
[03:32] <litropy> soothsayer, didn't torvalds himself just give the finger to nvidia?
[03:33] <soothsayer> eh... Not sure.. I have ati currently well amd make down piece of crap. but i am thinking of trying to get another card but i am stuck with x4 right now.
[03:33] <litropy> Oh. This is ati
[03:33] <litropy> D'oh
[03:34] <soothsayer> yeah.... I am thinking of getting a nvidia.. because i am having so much trouble with this one hahaha
[03:35] <litropy> soothsayer, don't. Well, maybe for an older one. But the linux world is not happy with nvidia because of what you're going through right now.
[03:35] <CIDR> mv ati is working fine.
[03:35] <CIDR> My nvidia worked fine.
[03:35] <litropy> I know you have an ATI, just saying
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> litropy: nvidia joined the linux foundation recently
[03:35] <CIDR> soothsayer: how many monitors do you need to support?
[03:36] <soothsayer> just one.. and i am thinking of bumping to at least 512.. because doom runs to slow and jerky on this thing i would hate to trying anything elder scrolls.
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> soothsayer: nvidia rocks imho :)
[03:37] <soothsayer> might try to go for a 512 nvidia.. i have been with ati/amd long enough me thinks haahha
[03:38] <Grant_P>  /ignore -channels #mwsf * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[03:38] <Grant_P> err
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> Grant_P: drop the first space you added :)
[03:38] <Grant_P> ActionParsnip: lol, yes damn copy and paste :P
[03:39] <soothsayer> sorry was on a site and it handed me all the bad news of this card.. hahaha
[03:39] <CMO> hi again everyone was here earlier needed some help with dns server redirection i wanted to redirect hosts in lan to a specifiq hostname located on lan with a http server now i have found a soulution the program is called MintDNS url: www.dyndnsservices.com
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> Grant_P: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1070654/   you can add that to your ~/.irssi/config file :)
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> CMO: how many nodes need to be affected?
[03:41] <CMO> 254 hole lan network just add the configuration to the application and run a custom dns server
[03:42] <CMO> but it only works with windows server
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> CMO: can your router not manage the resolution?
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> CMO: what are you using for LAN DNS?
[03:43] <MissVera> How to open GRUB configuration file?
[03:43] <CMO> ActionParsnip to be onest with u am not an expert but the app can control the wan ip settings which will set a dns server on local area network
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: there are many, what are you wanting to achieve?
[03:44] <MissVera> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[03:44] <MissVera>  To permanently change the default kernel boot options, press ALT+F2 or open a terminal from system > accessories > terminal. Type in the following command:  Code: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub a text editor will open with the grub configuration file. Near the top of that file you will see something very similar to this:
[03:44] <MissVera> That command, opens nothing.
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[03:44] <CMO> so u can startup a dns server and run the dns reqest to a dynamic server such as dyndns while the setting table u have set is redirected to the server located on ur localmachine
[03:45] <MissVera> ActionParsnip: Precise
[03:45] <J-Escobar> Question. I am unable to boot into 10.04. I am probably going to have to reinstall the OS. Is there a way I can reinstall Ubuntu without touching /home?
[03:45] <CMO> J-Escobar just backup home mate by running live ubuntu distro and back it up to usb or create a second backup partion
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: you can also use:  sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> J-Escobar: you can boot liveCD and delete the other folders. Why do you not have a backup of your data?
[03:46] <CMO> J-Escobar did u install home on a seperate partion
[03:46] <MissVera> ActionParsnip: yay! ty!
[03:46] <CMO> J-Escobar thats true philwyett
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: are you using KDE or XFCE by any chance?
[03:47] <J-Escobar> The problem with home is it is 1TB. I can't figure out why it won't boot. I have the data on there still, but don't have an option to transfer it off before a new install.
[03:47] <MissVera> ActionParsnip: xfce
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: then you can use:  gksudo mousepad /etc/default/grub
[03:47] <CMO> anyway my question is does anyone now any dynamic dns server program for linux ubuntu distro
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: I also suggest you run:  sudo ln -s `which mousepad` /usr/bin/gedit
[03:48] <gaelfx> how do you make the e with the ` over it?
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> J-Escobar: once you get a boot, get a backup and you won't have any worries about data integrity and you won't have this issue
[03:49] <CMO> need to go thanks anyway BUYBUY
[03:49] <gaelfx> on a US keyboard that is
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: could use the charmap app and copy
[03:49] <MissVera> ActionParsnip: That was.. Confusing. But, I have Grub open, all i needed was to edit a line. it breaks at the beginning for whatever reason
[03:49] <J-Escobar> I was hoping to get a clean install without wiping /home. But I do have a backup of all my important stuff. If i have to, I can purchase a new HD to backup my downloads and then restore and transfer back. I was just hoping for a faster and easier way.
[03:50] <gaelfx> ActionParsnip: you don't happen to know the exact name of that char, do you?
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: it's ascii 138
[03:50] <aristidesfl> Hi, I've got a problem running curses via upstart job. It crashes right away on tmux and screen, but not if I run in normally, without going thru upstart. What can the problem be? I'm on a fresh 12.04
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: in the terminal I'd press CTRL+X and use the mousepad
[03:51] <c2tarun> can anyone please try dragging the URL icon from google-chrome to desktop. My screen is freezing after this.
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: CTRL+X will close nano for you
[03:52] <sam__853> i have 3 instances of smuxi open under my messaging center, can someone inform me how to close these please
[03:54] <Stark> Running a VM using VirtualBox. Is there any way to set it to occupy an entire workspace?
[03:54] <Stark> And have it unfocus whenever I want to navigate out of that workspace?
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: 'e acute'  is how i'd say it
[03:55] <MissVera> ActionParsnip, I had to change the grub file, and after i saved then exited, I typed sudo update-grub  and it said, /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannotfind a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[03:55] <Grant_P> ActionParsnip: Thanks for that one, will check it out. :)
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: are you chrooted?
[03:55] <MissVera> I,, have no idea
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: are you booted to liveCD to edit grub?
[03:56] <MissVera> No, I installed it.
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: doesn't sound good. I suggest you use this: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[03:57] <Athleek123> FATAL: module ndiswrapper not found.  What do I do??
[03:57] <Ghosthunter007> Stark, yes during its creation dynamic means to use only space used and the other option is entire disk at once
[03:58] <Athleek123> I reinstalled and everything ^^
[03:59] <Athleek123> I get the error at sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:59] <MissVera> ActionParsnip, What is this for?
[03:59] <MissVera> ActionParsnip, I had been trying to do this because that thread showed me to. The nomodeset, bit.
[04:00] <Athleek123> Can anyone help me with my problem?
[04:00] <Stark> Ghosthunter007: I mean for screen resolution
[04:00] <Athleek123> If not its ok
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: if the OS is installed, you can hold SHIFT at boot, then press E and (e)dit the boot
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: you can add and remove them on the line with: quiet splash     on
[04:01] <robotdevil> someone really need to make a website with xorg.conf templates
[04:01] <gaelfx> ActionParsnip: thanks
[04:01] <Stark> Ghosthunter007: The workspaces function default with Ubuntu doesn't seem to allow me to switch out of the workspace I have the VM on without clicking the desktop first to unfocus the VM
[04:01] <Stark> Ghosthunter007: So setting it to fullscreen would lock me there completely unless there's a way to get it to let me navigate out without clicking the desktop
[04:01] <litropy> Welp, this is off-chance, but: I enabled tilda's animated pulldown and now tilda is blank -- like, it's not refreshing nor showing me what's going on. Is there a way to tell tilda to refresh without ending the command I'm running?
[04:02] <MissVera> ActionParsnip, Im afraid to try and reboot. The last time, i was unable to get to the boot.  I would make it past post, then it'd blackscreen with a blinking cursor.
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> Stark: set it fullscreen then press right ALT, you can then use CRL+ALT+Left Cursor to switch workspace
[04:02] <litropy> #tilda is empty, and only one person is in solenoid.oftc.net #tilda
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: what GPU do you use?
[04:02] <MissVera> ActionParsnip, so, I already edited grub. but when i tried to update it, it gave me that error /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannotfind a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[04:03] <Athleek123> Anyone knowledgeable about ndiswrapper?
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> litropy: try killing tilda, renaming tilda's config folder (or file) then rerun
[04:03] <Stark> ActionParsnip: My host key isn't set to right ALT, but the host key also won't let me use my workspace navigation command.
[04:03] <MissVera> ActionParsnip, and, that video you linked me to, I havent watched it just yet, but, found this in the comments https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair   ?
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: doesn't sound good, are you fully updated
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: try both :)
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: / needs to be mounted for the OS to boot
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: / holds the OS itself
[04:04] <MissVera> ActionParsnip, how would i see if im fully updated?  Sorry. I've been using Ubuntu for all of... two days.
[04:04] <litropy> ActionParsnip, I would, I really, really would, but I'm upgrading to 12.10 ... within tilda, at this very moment.
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> litropy: ah
[04:04] <JustAPerson> Hi! I just upgraded to 12.04 two days ago. the bar that SHOULD BE on the TOP with the battery, volume, time and username info is invisible. How do I fix this?
[04:05] <Athleek123> ActionParsnip when you are done would you mind giving me a hand?  I would really appreciate it
[04:05] <MissVera> ActionParsnip, those are two separate commands, right?
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> litropy: what if you press ENTER after clicking tilda?
[04:05] <JustAPerson> I can see the objects on it (i.e. the time, how much battery I have left) but the bar itself is invisible
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> JustAPerson: does it affect all session types?
[04:06] <JustAPerson> ActionParsnip: I do not know what you mean by that
[04:06] <MissVera> Well.. I hope they were two seperate commands, because thats how i entered 'em >.>
[04:06] <aperson> why must that always highlight me? :S
[04:06] <litropy> ActionParsnip, nothing.
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> JustAPerson: when you log in, click the Ubuntu logo near your username, those are the sessions you can use. Try a differnet one
[04:07] <litropy> ActionParsnip, I suppose I could just leave it and hope it doesn't ask me anything config oriented ... it might install all the way through and return to shell prompt, but ... I'm uneasy about the chances.
[04:08] <MissVera> ActionParsnip, It's updating, I guess.
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> litropy: if you open a terminal and run:  ps -ef | grep dpkg | grep -v grep     do you get output?
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: indeed. helps a lot
[04:08] <MissVera> ActionParsnip  Those were two separate commands, weren't they?
[04:09] <JustAPerson> ActionParsnip: yes it affects the guest session as well. I notice the bar starts as a grey color, but when I open a window it becomes invisible
[04:09] <litropy> ActionParsnip, yes, lots
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> litropy: ok, the update is running
[04:09] <maicod> I used ubuntu livecd because I wanted to resize a partition on a SDcard but that also contains a swap partition and the ubuntu livecd then 'steals' that swap partition. It locked it with swapon. why is that ?
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: you can run it as one, the semicolon just allows multiple commands on one line
[04:09] <litropy> ActionParsnip, at least I can check that.
[04:10] <MissVera> Ah!
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> litropy: could run top as well, see if its hung etc
[04:10] <c2tarun> can anyone please try dragging the URL icon from google-chrome to desktop. My screen is freezing after this.
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> litropy: you may be able to fg the process in a new terminal, not sure if that's possible though
[04:10] <MissVera> Uh
[04:11] <litropy> ActionParsnip, yep, I've got htop.
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> litropy: you could also kill the process then run the !aptfix commands
[04:11] <Athleek123> FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.  Can anyone help???
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: do you have the ndiswrapper package installed?
[04:11] <Athleek123> Yes
[04:11] <Stark> Well... it would appear as though my issue fixed itself.
[04:11] <Stark> Perhaps because I installed the Guest Additions.
[04:12] <MissVera> ActionParsnip...  failed to write status database record blah blah No space left on device...  Even though, when i installed, it reformatted, and I should have 50gb free...
[04:12] <Athleek123> Ndiswrapper -l returns correctly
[04:12] <Athleek123> Says driver installed
[04:13] <Athleek123> ActionParsnip it's when I run sudo modprobe ndiswrapper that I get the error
[04:13] <KorvinSzanto> Has anyone had luck using empathy with msn?
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> KorvinSzanto: ive setup amsn with msn before
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: try:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install ndiswrapper    may help
[04:15] <Athleek123> Ok
[04:15] <MissVera> Anyone know how to open gparted from the terminal?
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> MissVera: gksudo gparted
[04:15] <kanupatar> how you guys debug the kernel  for any issues/for performance ?
[04:15] <kanupatar> using kgdb ?
[04:15] <Athleek123> ActionParsnip unable to locate package ndiswrapper
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> !info ndiswrapper
[04:16] <KorvinSzanto> ActionParsnip, my online friends aren't showing up
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> !find ndisgtk
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> !info ndisgtk | Athleek123
[04:16] <KorvinSzanto> infact, users don't show up in the list at all
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: ndisgtk should be default install
[04:16] <Athleek123> ActionParsnip that wouldn't install.
[04:16] <KorvinSzanto> it says the msn is connected, but it just doesn't seem to be working
[04:16] <litropy> !aptfixes
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | litropy
[04:17] <MissVera> ActionParsnip, It failed updating because i supposedly ran out of space, even though i just reformatted, and in gparted, it says i've only used 3.77 gb , and have 51 remaining... though, the desktop and the terminal say im out of freespace?
[04:17] <Athleek123> Actionparsnip wait u mean it is installed automatically?
[04:18] <Athleek123> Errors were encountered while processing: ndisgtk
[04:18] <pengw> yo man
[04:19] <pengw> in ubuntu 12.04, is 1000kb = 1mb or 1024kb = 1mb???
[04:19] <Athleek123> Actionparsnip ^
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: what is the text above it?
[04:20] <Athleek123> Processing triggers for man-db
[04:20] <JustAPerson> ActionParsnip: Yes it affects all sessions (the top bar with time/session name being invisibile) Is this a part of unity? I tried `unity --reset` but the problem persists
[04:20] <MissVera> Somebody just beat me to death with this computer please.
[04:21] <pengw> 1024
[04:21] <pengw> man
[04:21] <pengw> i thought it is 1000
[04:21] <Athleek123> Actionparsnip ^
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> JustAPerson: not sure dude, does it affect a new ubuntu user?
[04:22] <y0om4> hi
[04:22] <y0om4> wget will allow me to download all the url files in a text file, right?
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: might be why you are getting the issue
[04:22] <Athleek123> Actionparsnip what is?
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> y0om4: http://www.veen.com/jeff/archives/000573.html
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: the fact that the OS has issues installing ndisgtk etc
[04:24] <Athleek123> ActionParsnip ok I'm gonna try something then ill get back to you
[04:24] <JustAPerson> ActionParsnip: just made a new user and it was also affected by this problem
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> y0om4: seems to be the -i option
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> JustAPerson: tried a different theme? use myunity to switch theme
[04:26] <Athleek123> Actionparsnip on the ndiswrapper install page it says there is a known bug in these deb packages that returns {insert error I am having}.  The kernel module may not have installed, to avoid this problem, it is best to compile from the source at ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net
[04:26] <Athleek123> What should I do
[04:27] <Athleek123> Aka how do I install the "kernel module"
[04:27] <psycho_oreos> modprobe
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: i guess do what it says, or grab a diffeent wifi device, they are stupidly cheap
[04:27] <Athleek123> But what does compile from the source mean
[04:27] <psycho_oreos> Athleek123, build a software from its source code, simply what it implies
[04:28] <psycho_oreos> well a software/driver/etc
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: programmers write source code for apps, then compile them. The ubuntu guys make handy debs for the binaries (programs) which result from the source code
[04:28] <Athleek123> How do I compile?
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: the guide is saying you will need to compile the source code yourself
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> !compile
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: is there no linux native driver for your wifi chip?
[04:30] <Athleek123> ActionParsnip nope
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: what wifi chip are you using?
[04:31] <JustAPerson> ActionParsnip: tried a few themes and the bar is still invisible. Also, windows in general look wrong: http://imgur.com/GnXtk
[04:32] <Liquidedge> Is there a way to create a shortcut in a folder to another folder that is on an external drive?
[04:32] <CIDR> Anyone ran D3 in wine ?
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> JustAPerson: thats just a terminal windows, what is the issue?
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> Liquidedge: use a symlink
[04:33] <JustAPerson> CIDR: yes I have, there are some graphics glitches though
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: checked the appdb?
[04:33] <Athleek123> ActionParsnip wg311v3
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: thats the adapter, not the chip
[04:33] <MissVera> gksudo seppuku
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: run:  sudo lshw -C network       what is the chip used
[04:34] <Liquidedge> ActionParsnip, reading about that now.  Should work.  Thanks!
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> Liquidedge: ln -s /path/to/folder ~/Desktop/name
[04:35] <Liquidedge> Now that's service.
[04:35] <Saiki> after running apt-get dist-upgrade -y  do I need to run anythign else to upgrage my system?
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> Liquidedge: obviously change /path/to/folder  to what you want to link TO and the ~/Desktop/name can be where you ink TO
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> Liquidedge: watch out using spaces for stuff, or you will need to escape them :)
[04:36] <Athleek123> Actionparsnip Marvell technology group ltd. 88w8835 [Libertas]
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: great. THAT is the chip
[04:37] <CIDR> JustAPerson: I ca n't get it to lauch.  I got the launcher and installer to work, now that it's 100% it won't go
[04:37] <CIDR> using wine 1.5.7
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: Netgear bought a tonne of wifi chips from Marvell and made the adapter you are using
[04:37] <Grant_P> brb
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: I'd ask in #wine
[04:37] <CIDR> thanks
[04:37] <Athleek123> Actionparsnip so how do I get the Linux driver?
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: and the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: seen this page?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3
[04:39] <JustAPerson> ActionParsnip: did you reply earlier? I had to reconnect. Changing themes does not help
[04:39] <Athleek123> Actionparsnip thats exactly what I dis
[04:39] <spik3> Hi guy's need help I plug and disconnected a monitor and lost 3d in unity how can I fix this
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> JustAPerson: yes, all you posted was a terminal, which oesn't show much...
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> spik3: reboot maybe..
[04:40] <Saiki> after running apt-get dist-upgrade -y  do I need to run anythign else to upgrage my system?
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: does reinstalling ndiswrapper with the debs help?
[04:40] <spik3> ActionParsnip I've tried that no go?
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> spik3: is Unity2D ok?
[04:41] <Athleek123> ActionParsnip: nope
[04:41] <spik3> Action Parsnip 2D is ok
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: looks like you#ll be compiling ndiswrapper then
[04:41] <Athleek123> ActionParsnip how again? And after I compile what do I do?
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> spik3: ok, reboot and log in to the unity3D session, then log off and log into the 2D sessin and read:  /var/log/Xorg.0.log   may give clues
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> Athleek123: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=compile+ndiswrapper
[04:42] <JustAPerson> ActionParsnip: sorry, I meant to show that the menu buttons and drop downs are all different. (The terminal was originally set to black text on black background for whatever, but I changed this)
[04:42] <Athleek123> Ty lol
[04:43] <litropy> ActionParsnip, ps -ef | grep dpkg | grep -v grep now returns nothing. Is it safe to say I can reboot?
[04:43] <spik3> ActionParsnip I will do catch-up soon
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> litropy: if no dpkg processes are running then its probably finished. reboot and hold your breath
[04:43] <litropy> ActionParsnip, k thx
[04:43] <Michael216> Hello
[04:44] <Michael216> Im looking to install ubuntu for the first time.
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> Michael216: cool
[04:44] <Saiki> Michael216: good choce
[04:44]  * litropy draws in all the air his lungs can contain, straining his diaphragm, puffing his cheeks, crossing both his fingers ...
[04:45] <Liquidedge> Problem #2:  When I ssh in to the machine, it accepts the ssh username/password, no problem, but the screen is just black.
[04:45] <Saiki> after running apt-get dist-upgrade -y  do I need to run anythign else to upgrage my system?  (like a do-release-upgrade) or somehting
[04:45] <Liquidedge> Saiki, No.
[04:45] <Michael216> I just mainly use the computer for surfing and playing games
[04:45] <Saiki> Liquidedge: simple reboot?
[04:45] <Liquidedge> Yup
[04:45] <Michael216> will it be a smoother ride?
[04:46] <Liquidedge> Michael216, it'll make an old machine seem super fast.
[04:46] <JustAPerson> Liquidedge: try entering `reset` blindly?
[04:46] <Saiki> Michael216: depending on what games you play
[04:46] <Michael216> Just basic browser based games
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: you now have the latest packages for the release you are using :)
[04:46] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to upgrade from lucid
[04:46] <Liquidedge> JustAPerson, Good thought.  Didn't work, though.
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | Saiki
[04:47] <spik3> ActionParsnip forgot to ask what do we look for
[04:47] <Michael216> Im out peace be back in the future
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> spik3: just errors really, and warnings
[04:48] <JustAPerson> Is there a way to repair my 12.04 installation? Much like with a LiveCD, but without the LiveCD part?
[04:48] <spik3> ActionParsnip: ok do you want me to do with the file
[04:48] <a5m0> anyone have trouble with the timeskip today on ubuntu? I have not but I've heard a lot of servers have
[04:48] <a5m0> JustAPerson, what's wrong with it?
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> spik3: read it
[04:50] <spik3> ActionParsinp: OK really dont know what I'm looking for /at
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> spik3: down the left side you will see (II)  which are informational
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> spik3: (WW) which are warnings (nothing major but should be noted)
[04:50] <JustAPerson> a5m0: a bunch of shit: nautilus won't start because of some dynamic library conflicts, the bar on the very top that shows the time, volume, etc is invisible, and a lot of things just look plain wrong/different
[04:50] <mah454> default gnome-shell theme is Adwaita , How can change it ? (change default)
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> spik3: and (EE) which are errors
[04:51] <spik3> ActionParsnip: ok give me a while back soon
[04:52] <a5m0> JustAPerson, a reinstall would probably be fastest
[04:53] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: is 12.04 out yet?
[04:53] <a5m0> yes Saiki
[04:53] <crond> Saiki, 12.04 has been out in 04/12
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: look at the version number, think about what year it is
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: the version numbers are extremely logical
[04:54] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: ok, I'm not thinking verystraight right now, sorry about that
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: its cool :)
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: makes EOL easy to calculate too :)
[04:54] <Saiki> 10.04 says "No new release found"
[04:54] <JustAPerson> a5m0: is there a CLI way to do that like do-release-upgrade? I don't have access to any blank CDs to burn an image to
[04:55] <mah454> How can fix this problem ? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=4716839#post4716839
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: you need to use -d   you will get offered the upgrade when Precise goes to 12.04.1
[04:55] <a5m0> JustAPerson, I found this by googling http://techie-buzz.com/foss/reinstall-ubuntu-from-command-line.html
[04:55] <blodgfx> hey
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> mah454: have you asked in #gnome as wel?
[04:56] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: there it goes. thanks
[04:56] <a5m0> JustAPerson, you could try the second command first to see if that resolves your conflicts: sudo apt-get install -f
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: np dude. be sure your backups are up to date in case of catastroophe
[04:56] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: it was 99% stockk, so I'm not worried
[04:57] <mah454> ActionParsnip, yes but do not answer to my question !
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> mah454: gah
[04:57] <mah454> ActionParsnip, sorry ! gah ?
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> mah454: gah = expression of exasperation
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> mah454: just found this: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/themeselector-gnome-shell-extension-to.html
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> mah454: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=gnome-shell+change+theme+ubuntu   that's all I used, then clicked the top link...
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> mah454: have you seen the link I pasted before?
[04:59] <JustAPerson> a5m0: I tried the second one first, it didn't do anything (0 packages changed) The first command appears to have frozen
[04:59] <a5m0> i think the only thing to do would be to wait
[04:59] <a5m0> or check top to see if there is actiivity
[04:59] <a5m0> i assume it would have a lot to do
[05:00] <spik3> ActionParsnip:found 5 ww relating to fonts 2ww Nvidia and 2 EE in Nvidia
[05:00] <a5m0> anyone know a good tutorial to move your boot partition to usb? for having full disck encryption?
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> spik3: fonts you can ignore
[05:01] <spik3> ActionParsnip: good
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> spik3: i suggest you uninstall the nvidia driver, reboot then reinstall it
[05:02] <spik3> ActionParnsnip: ok but how to remove Nvidia and reinstall as a Newbie
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> spik3: sudo apt-get --remove nvidia-current nvidia-settings
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> oops
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> spik3: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-current nvidia-settings
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> you can tell its 6am here :)
[05:05] <CetniK> is argentina white?
[05:05] <spik3> ActionParsnip time here is 15:05
[05:06] <designbybeck> hi
[05:06] <gaelfx> short of contacting the manufacturer directly, is there any way to find out what wireless chipset a USB wireless dongle uses?
[05:06] <gaelfx> (also short of actually buying it?)
[05:08] <designbybeck> why do YOU use Ubuntu Linux?/ Open Source Software!?
[05:08] <psycho_oreos> gaelfx, there are a few sites that may tell you such as linux-wireless.passys.nl (or something like that), Then there's googling of model number appending "; chipset" behind it
[05:09] <CetniK> hmm
[05:09] <gaelfx> psycho_oreos: thanks, will try
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: wrong channel dude, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:10] <psycho_oreos> gaelfx, wikidevi may also tell you the chipset and their chipset ID. That's the other one I was trying to remember.. though there are a fair few sites.
[05:11] <designbybeck> ActionParsnip:  Don't you ever take a break and jump to another channel! ;)
[05:11] <blodgfx> hey
[05:11] <gaelfx> psycho_oreos: that was the first google result actually :D good call
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: i'm in +1 sometimes
[05:13] <blodgfx> google comin to montreal soon
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> blodgfx: its already there: http://www.google.com/about/jobs/locations/montreal/
[05:14] <psycho_oreos> gaelfx, off topic but I sometimes I hate winter days. Googling using my search method seems to be the fastest way but I'd wouldn't rest on a single answer. I would get a general consensus of the various reports on what people say its actual chipset is for that specific model.
[05:15] <blodgfx> ubuntu support uefi ?
[05:17] <CetniK> arch linux
[05:17] <gaelfx> psycho_oreos: yeah, don't worry, I have a little skeptic in me
[05:19] <psycho_oreos> gaelfx, and with that I'd add the likes of brand names like: netgear, 3com, trendnet and belkin to the extra-cautious list. Those vendors are notoriously known to mix various chipsets under the same model number. Needless to say it causes frustration and grief to the unsuspecting end user
[05:19] <sulaiman> Greetings
[05:19] <sulaiman> Everytime I open up my terminal, I have to enter "source ~/.rvm/scripts/rvm" , can I make it permanent?
[05:20] <blodgfx> ibm have good support for linux
[05:21] <psycho_oreos> except IBM doesn't manufacture wireless cards/dongles
[05:21] <blodgfx> hehe
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> sulaiman: sure you can add it in ~/.profile
[05:26] <gaelfx> psycho_oreos: actually, the one I'm looking at now is netgear :P
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> sulaiman: or rename ~/.bashrc   and symlink your source file to ~/.bashrc
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> sulaiman: editting ~/.profile is probably sleeker
[05:28] <psycho_oreos> gaelfx, well I'd be very cautious :) I have had two devices from netgear which claim they were supported but it came out to be a completely different chip inside :)　Of one of them was this: http://daemonizer.de/prism54/wg511/
[05:29] <SteinerRecliner> REGISTER avatar09 Stuartxtra@gmail.com
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> SteinerRecliner: i'd ask in #freenode for help
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> SteinerRecliner: nice nick btw :)
[05:29] <SteinerRecliner> Thank you
[05:32] <blodgfx> what is the speed of clock in ubuntu ?
[05:32] <gaelfx> psycho_oreos: there's always that risk, but the place I'm dealing with has a fairly good return policy, so I'm gonna be optimistic
[05:33] <sulaiman> thanks ActionParsnip
[05:33] <blodgfx> 125mhz?
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> blodgfx: dmesg can show 1000ths of a second in it's log...
[05:36] <navatwo> I know its off topic, but http://i.imgur.com/G60bi.jpg
[05:36] <navatwo> :|
[05:38] <LiquidEdge> I have sound everywhere but in Chromium.  Thoughts?
[05:38] <navatwo> whoops, wrong channel.
[05:38] <siva40801> Hi , I have problem with apt-get . Getting some error like "unable to connect to 192.168.0.4:3128"
[05:38] <navatwo> LiquidEdge: check that the driver is showing up in your sound settings
[05:38] <siva40801> some one please help me
[05:39] <LiquidEdge> navatwo, Chrome sound settings?
[05:39] <Saiki> siva40801: what are you trying to do?
[05:39] <LiquidEdge> navatwo, Sound works everywhere else.  Movies, music, etc
[05:39] <siva40801> Saiki: sudo apt-get update :(
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait 10 seconds then reboot
[05:39] <Saiki> siva40801: vm or dedicated?
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: do other browsers have sound?
[05:39] <LiquidEdge> It's the only browser I have on here.
[05:39] <LiquidEdge> Uses Alsa
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: don't you think you should try others...
[05:40] <siva40801> Saiki: I'm running this command in terminal (my ubuntu version is 12.04 LTS)
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> siva40801: do you use a proxy for web access?
[05:40] <LiquidEdge> ActionParsnip, my life is on Chrome, need to get that to work.
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: it's to TEST
[05:40] <LiquidEdge> I'll see what firefox does.
[05:41] <CMO> Hii ALL
[05:41] <litropy> Okay. I am in a text-based irc client, gdm won't start. I think pastebinit will post without a window manager ...
[05:41] <LiquidEdge> I miss BitchX
[05:41]  * wylde slides out the back door ....
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> litropy: sure, pastebinit is pure cli
[05:41] <litropy> wylde lol
[05:42] <CMO> litropy try to reinstall gdm or install kde
[05:42]  * Saiki locks and welds the back door shut
[05:42] <siva40801> ActionParsnip: yeah.. once I used proxy.. but now I'm not using proxy
[05:42] <litropy> hahahaha
[05:42] <litropy> see the thing is, I think I can only get into one tty, and I'm using it. but let me try ...
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> siva40801: then edit /etc/apt/apt.conf   and comment the proxy lines out. You may also need to unset http_proxy and ftp_proxy
[05:42] <navatwo> LiquidEdge: sorry, I meant your system sounds
[05:45] <CMO> anyway i found a dynamic dns server for windows server does anyone now any for linux
[05:45] <xujun10110> i want to use squidt to cache videos,but i don't know how to do
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> xujun10110: doesn't that happen by default?
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> xujun10110: have you asked in #squid too?
[05:47] <LiquidEdge> Okay, no sound in Firefox or Chromium, but movies and music work fine.
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: qis this in flash items? like youtube?
[05:47] <LiquidEdge> Correct.  Video plays, though.
[05:47] <xujun10110> no
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: then why didn't you say that?
[05:47] <LiquidEdge> Sorry.
[05:47] <xujun10110> exit
[05:48] <LiquidEdge> Didn't even think about it until you said it.
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: i bet if you play a streaming avi in your browser it plays
[05:48] <LiquidEdge> ActionParsnip, makes sense.  How do I get the flash stuff to play?
[05:48] <LiquidEdge> I'm using this as a media center, so kind of important.
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[05:49] <LiquidEdge> Yeah, gimme a few.
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: you can use http://pastie.org   (or similar)
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: if you copy and paste it as one command, its easier for you and you won't butcher the command
[05:51] <litropy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1070740
[05:51] <litropy> I believe you'll find the problem there.
[05:51] <Leo13> hello everyone
[05:52] <litropy> But I don't know what to do about it
[05:52] <Leo13> i have a question
[05:52] <Leo13> i want to program for ubutu
[05:52] <Leo13> what labnguage do u gusy use ?
[05:52] <litropy> something about it not being able to properly detect my GPU
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> !contribute | Leo13 mainly C and C++
[05:52] <Leo13> *What language do u guys use ?
[05:52] <litropy> Leo, we're primarily English.
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> Leo13: and python
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: is your web connection slow?
[05:53] <Leo13> hehehe
[05:53] <Leo13> i mean programming language
[05:53] <Leo13> u see im a .Net programmer
[05:53] <LiquidEdge> ActionParsnip, no.  Just setting up a lot.  Doing it now.
[05:53] <litropy> Leo13, I know I was joking
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: gotcha
[05:54] <Leo13> but im interested in linux , so do u guys have some IDE or something like VS ?
[05:54] <litropy> Guys, if I don't respond to something you sy to me, say it again because I don't have highlighting here and all these msgs look the same.
[05:54] <imetallica> Leo13, do u code using which Language?
[05:54] <Leo13> c#
[05:55] <imetallica> umm
[05:55] <imetallica> there is Mono
[05:55] <Leo13> yea
[05:55] <Leo13> but i heard
[05:55] <Leo13> is not installed as default anymore
[05:55] <Leo13> on ubuntu
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> Leo13: just offer your talents to a project and I'm sure they'll be glad for the extra hand
[05:55] <imetallica> then you can install it via software center
[05:55] <Leo13> right
[05:56] <Leo13> iwanted to learn a new language
[05:56] <imetallica> you could be using vala, it's somewhat like C#
[05:56] <imetallica> and it's for GTK stuff
[05:56] <Leo13> vala do they have an IDE for that ?
[05:56] <litropy> I reinstalled gdm, no dice
[05:56] <imetallica> I think geany can handle vala
[05:57] <litropy> but see my Xorg log above.
[05:57] <Leo13> Geany
[05:57] <litropy> I noticed a segfault with xorg upon startx
[05:57] <Leo13> Geany
[05:57] <Leo13> is a text editor isnt ?
[05:57] <imetallica> well since I'm a C/C++/Python dude, can't tell how is Vala support... I most do my development using geany
[05:57] <imetallica> not only a text editor
[05:58] <imetallica> is an IDE
[05:58] <siva40801> ActionParsnip: There is no file like /etc/apt/apt.conf  :(
[05:58] <wylde> litropy: have you verified your RAM and filesystem are in good health?
[05:58] <imetallica> siva40801, if you are looking for changing the repositories, it's in the file called /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:59] <Leo13> i guess im not gonna get Visual Studio in linux right ?
[05:59] <imetallica> Leo13, geany is a good IDE
[05:59] <Psytonic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1070749/ <<< I'm getting a permission denied error?
[05:59] <Leo13> ill give it a shot
[05:59] <Psytonic> and probably a few other issues....
[05:59] <Leo13> and see what happens
[05:59] <litropy> wylde, I'm not sure as to the best way to verify that using bash.
[05:59] <siva40801> imetallica: Actually I'm getting error when I try to run sudo apt-get update :(
[06:00] <sacarlson> Leo13: I like glade and it's development tools if you want to make gui stuf fast
[06:00] <imetallica> Leo13, if you know how to handle XML, there is glade to bake interfaces for you
[06:00] <imetallica> siva40801, which error?
[06:00] <Leo13> thats pretty cool
[06:00] <spik3> ActionParsnip: removed Nvidia and tried to reinstall Nvidia no luck any more suggestion?
[06:00] <Leo13> Glade is something similar to what i want
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> siva40801: then run:  grep -R http /etc/apt/*
[06:01] <Leo13> i wonder why mono is not in ubuntu by default anymore
[06:01] <Leo13> it was a pretty cool framework
[06:01] <litropy> guys, I only have one tty ... I'm gonna disconnect from here then pastebin a dmesg
[06:01] <imetallica> Leo13, I guess due to proprietary problems
[06:01] <sacarlson> Leo13: you can proto with glade in ruby or python or C# C++ ...
[06:01] <wylde> litropy: there should be a memory test option in the grub menu, and you can use fsck to check the filesystem.  'sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now' will force a reboot and filesystem check.
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> Psytonic: use visudo to edit sudoers, I don't suggest you add that as you will strip any sort of security from your OS
[06:02] <Psytonic> ActionParsnip: I know
[06:02] <siva40801> ActionParsnip: all results are in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:02] <Leo13> what do u guys like best
[06:02] <Psytonic> ActionParsnip: and I'm fine with it - need to know whats wrong though
[06:02] <Leo13> Java or just straight C
[06:02] <Leo13> for linux ?
[06:02] <imetallica> C
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> siva40801: then run:  grep -R -i proxy /etc/apt/*
[06:03] <imetallica> imho
[06:03] <siva40801> imetallica: The error is "Unable to Connect to 190.168.0.4:3128"
[06:03] <imetallica> Java needs a JVM, we got openJDK but it's not the best around the world
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> siva40801: also try:  grep proxy ~/.bashrc
[06:03] <Leo13> have u used java a lot
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> imetallica: we also 'got' oracle jvk...
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> *jdk
[06:04] <Leo13> im a windows guy
[06:04] <Leo13> and always had a hard time
[06:04] <Leo13> to beleive the portability of java
[06:04] <litropy> K. 4016MB of RAM. Xorg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1070740 | dmesg: http://[aste.ubuntu.com/1070750
[06:04] <imetallica> ActionParsnip, I know we do, but it's a pain in the butt to install it in any platform.
[06:04] <Psytonic> Leo13: whys that?
[06:05] <imetallica> and it's not delivered "out of the box"
[06:05] <litropy> The system seems fine enough ... I think it just forgot about my GPU
[06:05] <Leo13> ive heard a lot of complaints
[06:05] <siva40801> ActionParsnip: there are no results for both commands..  no files are listed
[06:05] <litropy> wylde, actionparsnip
[06:05] <Leo13> like if i write something in java can i run the same file in ubuntu
[06:05] <wylde> ewwww ATI :P
[06:05] <Psytonic> hoping someone can help me with a shell script >>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1070749/
[06:05] <Leo13> without changes to the source ?
[06:06] <imetallica> Leo13, if you want to do stuff nice for Linux, you should try GTK or Qt libraries to design interfaces... programming languages I could suggest Python or C++
[06:06] <Psytonic> Leo13: thats kinda the point
[06:06] <Leo13> i know is the point
[06:06] <Leo13> but does it actually work ?
[06:06] <Leo13> flawlessly
[06:06] <Leo13> im just asking
[06:06] <Psytonic> NOTHING works flawlessly
[06:06] <Psytonic> at all, ever
[06:06] <Leo13> im a .net developer
[06:06] <Psytonic> but yes, it works
[06:06] <litropy> leo13, more or less
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> siva40801: ok what is the output of:  echo $http_proxy
[06:07] <litropy> gtk and qt are crossplatform
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> Psytonic: death does
[06:07] <Psytonic> ActionParsnip: :P
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> Psytonic: if someone fully dies, then death has worked
[06:07] <Leo13> there u go
[06:07] <imetallica> ActionParsnip, lol?!
[06:07] <Leo13> Action has a point
[06:07] <Psytonic> or does it?
[06:07] <siva40801> ActionParsnip: you are awesome!!  result is "http://192.168.0.4:3128"
[06:07] <wylde> litropy: your dmesg url got a little beat up....
[06:07] <zixem> Hey xD
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> siva40801: then that is defined in ~/.bashrc or /etc/bash.bashrc  or /etc/environment
[06:08] <litropy> wow I can't even /me with this client
[06:08] <imetallica> Leo13, if you want portability go for Python... it could give you less headaches + there are good bindings in GTK && QT
[06:09] <Leo13> phyton
[06:09] <imetallica> thus is cross platform
[06:09] <Leo13> what is the syntax
[06:09] <Leo13> like
[06:09] <litropy>  /me cries
[06:09] <Psytonic> nothing wrong with java...
[06:09] <Leo13> im used to c like syntax
[06:09] <imetallica> it's very similar
[06:09] <Leo13> had a hard time with ruby already
[06:09] <Psytonic> hoping someone can help me with a shell script >>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1070749/
[06:10] <imetallica> ya ain't goin' to have much hard time with it
[06:10] <Leo13> Python it is  then
[06:10] <litropy> psytonic, I would if I had a browser!
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> litropy: rop the first space
[06:10] <wylde> litropy: just a thought. Have you tried purging fglrx? Then trying the nouveau drivers?
[06:10] <litropy> actionparsnip, this client doesn't /me. so I'm pseudo /me
[06:10] <imetallica> http://www.python.org <-- the way to go
[06:10] <litropy> 'ing
[06:10] <Psytonic> Leo13: why python over java?
[06:10] <LiquidEdge> ActionParsnip, Can you give me that command again?  Something died on my machine.  And a little bit inside me.
[06:11] <imetallica> Psytonic, java is ugly :p
[06:11] <Psytonic> :O
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> LiquidEdge: lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[06:11] <Psytonic> take that back!
[06:11] <imetallica> hate java
[06:11] <Psytonic> pfft
[06:11] <Leo13> hehehe
[06:11] <litropy> Can I has some commands?
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> Psytonic: why don't you just log in as root and go full retard, much easier
[06:12] <Leo13> i though u guy would be against .Net
[06:12] <imetallica> like I can do all with python
[06:12] <imetallica> much faster and less brainstorming than java
[06:12] <Psytonic> ActionParsnip: ...its for a script?
[06:12] <Psytonic> imetallica: fair enough
[06:12] <imetallica> only language I dislike as much as I do with java is C#
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> Psytonic: i'm not sure that the visudo command can be manipulated in that way
[06:13] <Leo13> hehehe
[06:13] <Psytonic> it can
[06:13] <Psytonic> it works, the issue i
[06:13] <imetallica> tried to understand once
[06:13] <Psytonic> 'm having is the the conditional
[06:13] <spik3> ActionParsnip:Have you got any-more ideas about Nvidia??
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> Psytonic: why are you hitting enter after nearly every other word, it makes no sense
[06:13] <litropy> K. I'm headed over to +1. If you message me, I MAY get it ...
[06:13] <imetallica> too brainstorming for me
[06:14] <Psytonic> typo: different keyboard than I'm used to
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> Psytonic: you could also ask in #bash for help with bash conditons
[06:14] <Psytonic> ActionParsnip: ta
[06:14] <wylde> litropy: I'm far from an expert but it looks to me like the proprietary driver is causing the segfault. Personally I'd clean out that driver and try to get to a basic working system. Then approach getting proprietary driver working.
[06:14] <imetallica> wylde, which proprietary driver?
[06:15] <imetallica> did u made the updates? after updating the kernel I could install fine my video card drivers
[06:16] <Leo13> guys can i ask u a quick question about the drivers in ubuntu and linux
[06:16] <litropy> wylde, all I've got is a command prompt. I'd be googling how to install a generic ati driver, if I could.
[06:16] <Leo13> in general
[06:16] <imetallica> wylde, run, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, reboot and try to reinstall the restricted drivers, the updated version one.
[06:16] <litropy> imetallica, I am up to date.
[06:16] <wylde> imetallica: I'm not the one having the problem.
[06:16] <imetallica> Leo13, shoot it
[06:17] <imetallica> ah k, sry... sleepy here :P
[06:17] <litropy> imetallica, any idea what the command for resricted driver install would be?
[06:17] <Leo13> do u guys write the drivers
[06:17] <Leo13> for ubuntu
[06:17] <Leo13> or the manufacturers do ?
[06:17] <imetallica> jockey-gtk on terminal
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> Leo13: bit of both
[06:17] <imetallica> or jockey-text
[06:18] <litropy> brb, trying jockey-text
[06:18] <Leo13> woow
[06:18] <Leo13> a bit inestable
[06:18] <Leo13> imetallica
[06:19] <skypce> hello
[06:19] <imetallica> Leo13, ?
[06:19] <Saiki> anyine IN HERE speak chinese?
[06:19] <Leo13> it would be  alot better
[06:19] <Leo13> if the anufacturer provides the drivers
[06:19] <skypce> i have a question, how can i trigger a sound when have a liferea notifiation?
[06:19] <skypce> notification sorry
[06:19] <skypce> i have a question, how can i trigger a sound when have a liferea notification?
[06:20] <Pitel> how can I set my messenger status to be automaticaly online after boot?
[06:20] <imetallica> Leo13, that's true... but not all manufacturers have good support for Linux. A good example who explode in the media recently is nVidia
[06:20] <imetallica> ATI is the one with the best support for Linux atm.
[06:21] <Leo13> really , you would think that nvidia
[06:21] <Leo13> would do a nice job on that
[06:21] <Leo13> then is gonna be pretty hard for users
[06:21] <Leo13> to make the change men
[06:21] <imetallica> I saw a e-mail from the mailing list about a kernel developer answering a question from an employee from nvidia
[06:22] <imetallica> it was hilarious
[06:23] <imetallica> Leo13, there you go -> http://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/ksummit-2012-discuss/2012-June/000304.html
[06:23] <Jihui_Choi> I wanna make a facebook app, but it requires https url. How can I make https connect on my ubuntu 12.04. I don't have any domain right now and I'm on dynamic ip.
[06:25] <imetallica> well good night everyone, just saw now that pass 3AM here LOL
[06:26] <Leo13> take care budd
[06:38] <mobhero> hi, when i give cmd "sudo chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers"
[06:39] <mobhero> its getting no valid sudoers sources found, quitting unable to initialize policy plugin. error, pls help me
[06:41] <piglit> i am thinking of buying a nas from synology a 112 is there some way to use cloud with that synology and ubuntu?
[06:43] <L3top> 0440
[06:44] <LiquidEdge> Okay, here's my output
[06:44] <LiquidEdge> http://pastebin.com/y8x5bcAq
[06:46] <LiquidEdge> Sorry, wrong chan
[06:46] <LiquidEdge> Can someone in #ubuntu-help invite me?
[06:49] <HungryMan> anyone know how I can get 3D acceleration working on Ubuntu 12.04 with FGLRX? I've never had an issue before but I just reformatted and suddenly it's giving me problems
[06:49] <qjaz> hi
[06:49] <DJones> LiquidEdge: I don't think #ubuntu-help is a support channel, looks to be an old channel thats no longer used
[06:49] <LiquidEdge> Ah, thanks.
[06:49] <qjaz> i wld like to setup a postfix+courier mail setup with my own dns on LAN...any good tutorials ??? i am new to linux n ubuntu...
[06:49] <DJones> If its ubuntu support/questions, this is the right channel
[06:50] <qjaz> i wld like to setup a postfix+courier mail setup with my own dns on LAN...any good tutorials ??? i am new to linux n ubuntu...
[06:50] <LiquidEdge> What's the help chan, then?
[06:50] <DJones> LiquidEdge: This is the main support channel for ubuntu
[06:50] <LiquidEdge> Okay, well, then I have questions.  :)
[06:50] <qjaz> yea sure...
[06:50] <LiquidEdge> I've got sound in audio, video, etc.  But nothing in Chrome when I play flash.
[06:51] <LiquidEdge> Youtube, etc
[06:52] <qjaz> i wld like to setup a postfix+courier mail setup with the my own dns on LAN...any good tutorials ??? i am new to linux n ubuntu...
[06:53] <qjaz> any1 help me ???
[06:54] <dominic_> qjaz: try this http://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Ubuntu_10.04
[06:54] <qjaz> thanx dominic
[06:55] <dominic_> dunno if they have updated tutorial for 12.04
[06:59] <skule> Update Manager reports an error like "Not all updates can be installed" I can then click cancel or "Partly upgrade", I am already at 12.04 and apt-get reports no errors
[07:08] <bradleyayers> i have ubuntu running in a VM, I added a network adapter while it's still on, is it possible to get the network adapter discovered without rebooting the vm?
[07:12] <skule> how come apt-get upgrade keep reporting that this package is kept back: "ia32-libs-multiarch:i386"
[07:12] <dominic_> test
[07:12] <UndiFineD> bradleyayers, I am not sure, but if you add an interface with e1000 driver, you might try modprobe e1000
[07:12] <wangchoufeng> what is wrong
[07:13] <bradleyayers> UndiFineD: thanks
[07:13] <wangchoufeng> what is Xchat?
[07:15] <gRAVIty__> need help with ethernet new to IRC. help please?
[07:16] <BlackDalek>   how do I copy and paste from the CLI? (I have no GUI running)
[07:17] <caf4926> try Ctrl + SHIFT + V
[07:17] <caf4926> to paste
[07:17] <BlackDalek> but how do I copy?
[07:17] <gRAVIty__> so we do get help on IRC :)
[07:18] <gRAVIty__> CTRL SHIFT C
[07:18] <caf4926> +C
[07:18] <BlackDalek> gRAVIty__ caf4926 that doesn't work from tty CLI
[07:19] <gRAVIty__> have you used your mouse?
[07:19] <caf4926> BlackDalek, what are you trying to do
[07:19] <BlackDalek> gRAVIty__: there is NO mouse. there is NO display manager/gui etc.
[07:19] <caf4926> you know about TAB to auto complete?
[07:20] <BlackDalek> I am trying to work out how to copy and paste text from the screen.
[07:20] <caf4926> BlackDalek, but why
[07:21] <BlackDalek> caf4926: incase there is something useful in dmesg output which I should copy and paste into here ;)
[07:22] <iceroot> skule: use "dist-upgrade" instead
[07:22] <caf4926> BlackDalek, you should send it to a txt file
[07:22] <gRAVIty__> been struggling with this for the past four days http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2010190
[07:22] <iceroot> skule: upgrade will never change dependencies, but dist-upgrade will, thats the reason why it is kept back
[07:23] <BlackDalek> caf4926: how? using pipe? something like "dmseg | filename.txt ? Is that right?
[07:24] <caf4926> BlackDalek, for example if you are working from your user login and you did lspci -nnk > info.txt
[07:24] <iceroot> BlackDalek: dmesg | grep searchstring > filename.txt   is the way i would go
[07:25] <caf4926> you get a file info.txt in your home
[07:25] <caf4926> yes
[07:25] <caf4926> I think so
[07:25] <gRAVIty__> @iceroot : can you help with ethernet problem?
[07:25] <iceroot> gRAVIty__: sorry i have a call now
[07:25] <BlackDalek> ok.. so dmesg > filename.txt would copy everything to a file?
[07:25] <iceroot> BlackDalek: yes
[07:25] <goddard> anyone tried a paid codec pack before?
[07:25] <gRAVIty__> sure i will wait
[07:26] <caf4926> BlackDalek, once you have your info it can be easier for you to boot a live cd or work from a second computer
[07:26] <gRAVIty__> @caf4926: waiting for your to be free :)
[07:27] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, come again
[07:27] <gRAVIty__> caf4926: been struggling with ethernet for the past four days http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2010190
[07:28] <gRAVIty__> have to use windows to IRC :(
[07:28] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, I use carl4926 in the forum
[07:29] <gRAVIty__> caf4926: great. should I send a pm there?
[07:29] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, let me look at the thread BRB
[07:29] <gRAVIty__> sure
[07:30] <BlackDalek> caf4926: isn't there some cli text file editor i could use to copy info rather that going to the trouble of booting a live session?
[07:32] <gRAVIty__> @BlackDalek- He is viewing a thread on ubuntuforums.org will take a few moments till he gets back
[07:32] <BlackDalek> no problem ;)
[07:33] <chicognu> What is the GUI name to configure the sources from where download software updates ?
[07:33] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, that's a puzzle for sure
[07:34] <gRAVIty__> lol.ok. anything which I can do?
[07:34] <gRAVIty__> looks like I am going to be stuck to windows for a while
[07:34] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, When you run 12.04 from the Live cd how is the network then?
[07:34] <gRAVIty__> same problems
[07:34] <gRAVIty__> when i run on live cd
[07:35] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, what about wireless?
[07:35] <gRAVIty__> i dont have a wifi router here :(
[07:35] <gRAVIty__> new connection. The old DSL router does not work with this
[07:35] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, thing is, hardwire should just work
[07:36] <Snowie> Hi All. Just me, or is googles chrome playing up on some pages on 12.04 for others as well. Has been fine for ages on 12.04, noticed it in last couple of weeks. any updates in this time for either that may affect it? Switching back to chromium seems to work fine
[07:36] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, it's almost unheard of for it not to
[07:36] <gRAVIty__> ya. i used several previous versions of ubuntu. did not have a  problem with ethernet
[07:36] <caf4926> BlackDalek, I can't really say, I don't know how anyway...
[07:37] <BlackDalek> ok
[07:37] <gRAVIty__> can you explain more about the problem so that i can dig more on google myself?
[07:37] <gRAVIty__> the problem is i dont even understand what to look for :P
[07:37] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, I'm not sure I do either
[07:37] <gRAVIty__> caf4926: Thanks for your time :)
[07:37] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, I'm not a network guru
[07:38] <gRAVIty__> can u suggest some one?
[07:38] <gRAVIty__> i think chilli is one
[07:38] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, one second
[07:38] <gRAVIty__> \sure
[07:39] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=508533
[07:39] <gRAVIty__> Sure. will take his help and report back to you. should I refer you?
[07:40] <caf4926> gRAVIty__, however you feel is OK with me
[07:40] <gRAVIty__> cool! thanks a lot. cya!
[07:40] <BlackDalek> can someone remind me.. what is the command to try and start display manager from CLI?
[07:41] <BlackDalek> lightdm
[07:42] <Snowie> BlackDalek, you mean to change to another terminal and start the GUI? interested myself, not even sure if this can be done. will keep eyes out for the answer
[07:43] <BlackDalek> I mean something like "sudo init lightdm start" or words to that effect....
[07:44] <geirha> BlackDalek: sudo service lightdm start, or sudo start lightdm
[07:44] <BlackDalek> thank you
[07:50] <ICWiener> I need a way to synchronize folders between two computers. I can mount them w/ sshfs, but that's not very convenient to do every time I start my computer. Also, I'd need to have both computers on for that to work. Is there any better way?
[07:50] <geirha> ICWiener: Ubuntuone?
[07:50] <ICWiener> Not over internet. Not w/ HughesNet
[07:52] <ICWiener> Any better ideas?
[07:53] <gigix> ICWiener, you're fine with sshfs but you'd like it to start automatically ?
[07:53] <ICWiener> Yeah. Ima use it for porn and don't wanna go through a lot of trouble
[07:54] <ICWiener> I have a 10GB partition on each computer that mounts at startup
[07:54] <ICWiener> I wanna have those two sync every chance they get
[07:55] <dr_willis> rsync and a cron job perhps.
[07:55] <geirha> or a version control system
[07:55] <dr_willis> sort of depends on wwhat dagtga is on them and how much is changeing ;)
[07:55] <dr_willis> as to whats more effective
[07:55] <ICWiener> rsync?
[07:55] <ICWiener> What's that about?
[07:56] <dr_willis> !rsync
[07:56] <dr_willis> if the 2 pcs are on the same lan. you could just share the directory. no need for 2 copies
[07:57] <Nillerz> I have a major issue
[07:57] <ICWiener> They aren't always connected. It's for porn between my laptop and my desktop.
[07:57] <Nillerz>  First off, I've experienced what can only be seen as the same exact bug on 3 separate computers, each running different Ubuntu-based distros... the computer will freeze, for no discernable reason, and no input will be taken, I cannot use any keyboard shortcuts to change the tty, cannot interact with the window manager, and cannot do anything other than Alt-SysRq-B to reboot
[07:57] <dr_willis> !info unison
[07:58] <Nillerz>  This problem plagues my computer, running Pinguy 12.04 64 bit, my wives computer, running Pinguy 11.04 32 bit, and a friends computer, he's running Ubuntu 12.04 32 bit
[07:58] <Nillerz> I just restarted after this incident. I have a dmesg output
[07:58] <Nillerz> http://pastebin.com/vwVaaYZf
[07:58] <psicobra> hi all
[07:59] <dr_willis> hello
[07:59] <psicobra> well pleased with this setup
[08:00] <digitalsoft> how to speed up sftp transfers, iam using filzilla
[08:00] <psicobra> i got an old knackered p4-m laptop with 512 MB RAM running a 200x CF card in an ide adapter using xubuntu it is lighting fast
[08:00] <psicobra> boots in about 8 seconds shuts down in 5
[08:00] <digitalsoft> how to speed up sftp transfers, iam using filzilla *(how about multiple commenctions for same transfer?)
[08:01] <caf4926> Nillerz, has this happend since install or is it recent
[08:02] <Nillerz> It's been happening to all our computers on and off after the install
[08:03] <Nillerz> Some days it isn't an issue other days it is.
[08:03] <Nillerz> I just recently installed the 64 bit os, hoping that would solve the issues, no avail
[08:03] <xujun10110> Does anynor know how to use squid to cache hot videos?
[08:03] <Nillerz> We are all using different PCs and have completely different setups.
[08:04] <caf4926> Nillerz, it's particularly odd that it's affecting different pc's
[08:04] <caf4926> Nillerz, I have not seen this at all
[08:04] <Nillerz> I was guessing it was a fairly common bug considering it did, across different distros and different machines.
[08:05] <Nillerz> I'm trying to think of common factors
[08:05] <dr_willis> test with a live cd, see if it  affects a live cd also...
[08:05] <Nillerz> the only one I can think of is the partitioning scheme, I partitioned them all in a similar fashion
[08:05] <geirha> Nillerz: have you checked the logfiles for loglines around the time of a freeze? /var/log/dmesg or /var/log/syslog
[08:05] <Nillerz> dr_willis, I would do that but it might take hours of regular use on a live-cd
[08:06] <caf4926> Nillerz, partitioned how?
[08:06] <Nillerz> geirha, I have included a dmesg output above
[08:06] <geirha> Nillerz: That looks like a normal boot. Did it freeze during boot?
[08:07] <dr_willis> the  dmesg output is so long... its pratically unuseable. :) i dident notice anything standing out about it.. but im on my phone. so its hard to read
[08:07] <caf4926> Nillerz, I'd expect to see: swap, root ext4 and perhaps also /home ext4
[08:07] <Nillerz> caf4926, we all have somewhere between 10-20 gb ext3 for a root partition, me and my wife both have twice as much swap space as ram (I have 8 gigs of ram, she has 3), and our home folder is in a different partition, and is partitioned as ext3, uses the rest of our hard drive
[08:08] <Nillerz> geirha, I can't get a dmesg output before restarting, I can't do ANYTHING before restarting
[08:08] <dr_willis> why are you using ext3 and not ext4 ?
[08:08] <caf4926> Nillerz,  check .xsession-errors
[08:08] <Nillerz> dr_willis, the exact reasoning is unknown, but I remember I had a very very good reason for it in the past
[08:08] <geirha> Nillerz: dmesg output is continously written to syslog...
[08:09] <Nillerz> caf4926, where is that located?
[08:09] <caf4926> hidden /home/username
[08:09] <Nillerz> geirha, where can I find that?
[08:09] <geirha> Nillerz: /var/log/dmesg iirc (I'm not on Ubuntu right now)
[08:09] <geirha> Nillerz: /var/log/syslog may also have clues
[08:10] <Nillerz> http://pastebin.com/gNhH053z
[08:11] <Nillerz> geirha, http://pastebin.com/35XFgcmK
[08:11] <Nillerz> that is the contents of /var/log/dmesg
[08:13] <geirha> Nillerz: That's just this boot. It must've been logrotated. previous one should be /var/log/dmesg.0 or .1 or so
[08:13] <Nillerz> roger, I'll check...
[08:15] <AdvoWork> Hi there, i've ported dreamweaver using wine, and it works if i run wine "/home/user/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Adobe/Dreamweaver.exe" so i add a launcher shortcut and select run application in terminal. This also works fine (but opens a terminal too), as its a gui, i want to open the program normally, but if i create a launcher without using the terminal, so just application, nothing happens?
[08:16] <geirha> AdvoWork: Open a terminal and run   tail -F ~/.xsession-errors   click on your launcher and see what appears in that terminal
[08:20] <dr_willis> or perhaps make a script that launches the app. then make a launcher that runs the script. ;)
[08:20] <dr_willis> or check out other wine app .desktop files that have been made and see what they do
[08:21] <geirha> Odd the installation didn't add one already really
[08:22] <dr_willis> or he dident look.
[08:22] <link> hi everybody!
[08:23] <dr_willis> hellos
[08:23] <Guest10261> ???
[08:23] <Guest10261> hi!!!
[08:23] <Guest10261> So...
[08:23] <dr_willis> time go come up with a new nick. ;)
[08:23] <blackthor> Hello, i just had to reboot a ubuntu LTS 10.04 box due to the java leap second bug.  what struck me is that  networking did not come back up properly. i logged in using IPMI and everything looked normal (2 eth interfaces with designated fixed IP adress, also "auto eth", etc). however pinging from or to the machine did not work, until i manually did   /etc/init.d/networking restart . then suddenly everything started working.  any clues on h
[08:23] <Guest10261> mmm?
[08:24] <dr_willis> !nick
[08:26] <ICWiener> Could I make my computer any harder to get to? You need to log in CLI and startx manually then it asks you for a different password to get to my desktop. The root password is needed to mount stuff, too.
[08:29] <fidel> hi
[08:29] <Jonne> is 'mdb file viewer' the only app that can open mdb files? Not having any luck with LibreOffice Base
[08:31] <Nillerz> It just happened again
[08:31] <Nillerz> geirha, caf4926, dr_willis, I am going to note that I could, in fact, move the mouse after it froze up on me
[08:32] <caf4926> Nillerz, OK
[08:32] <caf4926> Nillerz, but you could perform any action such as open a terminal and say run: top
[08:32] <dr_willis> theres some known 'usb keybord not responding' issues. You could check ghee forums and askubuntu.com see if any seem similer
[08:32] <Nillerz> no
[08:32] <Nillerz> I couldn't switch to other ttys
[08:32] <dr_willis> could you ssh in?
[08:33] <Nillerz> dr_willis, I don't thnk that was the case, first off because my pc was not responsive to clicks, and also because I reset the computer using alt-sysrq-b
[08:34] <Nillerz> I don't have the tools available right now to attempt an ssh connection
[08:34] <dr_willis> ive had X lock up totally and ssh still works
[08:34] <caf4926> dr_willis, good idea
[08:34] <Nillerz> I will try to do that in the future if the problem persists
[08:35] <caf4926> Nillerz, you'll need to setup ssh on one machine, perhaps the most likely one to be affected
[08:35] <dr_willis> theres also alt-sysreq-SOMTHING that closes X. but i forget what combo it is
[08:35] <Nillerz> now, I have a gunzipped file and a plaintext file in /var/log
[08:35] <Nillerz> one is called dmesg.1.gz and the other is called dmesg.0
[08:35] <Nillerz> then I'd have to network the computers
[08:36] <dr_willis> i cant imagine why you wouldent want them networked ;;)
[08:36] <dr_willis> thats half the fun
[08:36] <Nillerz> dr_willis, I'm actually deployed for the military right now, so my network here isn't nearly as awesome as the one I have at home
[08:37] <dr_willis> !dontzap
[08:37] <dr_willis> !nozap
[08:37] <Jonne> !doublenegativezap
[08:37] <dr_willis> Theres some way to restaart X with the sysreq-key  and K i think
[08:38] <Nillerz> although I do occasionally use dd-wrt on my router to wirelessly connect to my 3g wireless-hotspot-modem (the only way to get internet here) so I can have LAN parties with Minecraft while having the internet still function for me
[08:38] <Nillerz> dr_willis, I'm going to quickly google that
[08:38] <Jonne> crtl-alt-backspace if you have the dontzap flag set in xorg.conf
[08:38] <dr_willis> used to be the old alt-ctrl-delete did it.. but thats disabled now
[08:38] <dr_willis> yea bacckapsace :) thats the old skool way
[08:38] <Nillerz> I can guess why...
[08:38] <dr_willis> ive nevver accidently hit alt-ctrl-delete in years of pc ussage... so noi idea why..
[08:39] <Nillerz> I'm using openbox, it doesn't do anything for me. :P
[08:39] <dr_willis> i literally CANt use the alt-sysreq-whatever key sequence on many of my machines (laptops)
[08:39] <Nillerz> but if I were to start using Linux for the first time and were coming from Windows, and something wasn't working right, ctrl-alt-del is the first thing I'd do
[08:40] <Nillerz> Anyway....
[08:40] <Nillerz> one is called dmesg.1.gz and the other is called dmesg.0
[08:40] <dr_willis> alt-ctrl-del = reboot the  machine. If you are on the console.
[08:40] <Nillerz> which is an older log-file?
[08:40] <dr_willis> 1 = older
[08:40] <dr_willis> .2 = even older
[08:40] <Nillerz> okay, let's crack that one open then...
[08:40] <dr_willis> cron job rotates the log files every so often
[08:41] <Nillerz> http://pastebin.com/ahr0J8r0
[08:42] <Nillerz> One second, duty calls, I'll be back in about 30 minutes
[08:42] <Nillerz> Thanks for the help if I don't see you again...
[08:46] <blackthor> can't you use  CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to restart X ?
[08:47] <samba35> i dont know what the bar called (on 12.04 ) where is a bar with dash home ,office shortcut ,system setting ..etc . if i want to open  application and minimize same by clicking shortcut ..how do i do it
[08:47] <dr_willis> blackthor:  its diabled by default these days. has been for like 3 years
[08:47] <blackthor> dr_willis: for real? oh! :)   that's pretty lame.
[08:48] <dr_willis> samba35:  you mean the lefft side panel? launcher bar. oive seen some hacked/tweked versions to do that. but its not the default way
[08:48] <k1l_> blackthor: that doesnt work anymore. its altgr-print-k to restart the xserver. but all open programs will be killed
[08:48] <dr_willis> blackthor:  you been oout of touch. ;)
[08:48] <samba35> yes left side bar
[08:48] <blackthor> dr_willis: commandline ftw! :)
[08:48] <dr_willis> left side panel = launcher
[08:48] <admi> hello room, is there any way to view ie only pages in ubuntu
[08:48] <dr_willis> admi:  use a useragent-extension to make the site think you are running IE
[08:49] <dr_willis> and hope the site dosent use activex
[08:49] <samba35> dr_willis, can you please give me some more details on that
[08:49] <blackthor> dr_willis: can you spare me an idea for my problem:
[08:49] <dr_willis> samba35:  i dont use the hack. its unofficial and unsupported here. i saw it mentioned on either webupd8 or the omgubuntu! blog sites
[08:49] <admi> @dr_willis how do i do that
[08:49] <blackthor> i just had to reboot a ubuntu LTS 10.04 box due to the java leap second bug.  what struck me is that  networking did not come back up properly. i logged in using IPMI and everything looked normal (2 eth interfaces with designated fixed IP adress, also "auto eth", etc). however pinging from or to the machine did not work, until i manually did   /etc/init.d/networking restart . then suddenly everything started working.  any clues on how i ca
[08:49] <samba35> ok
[08:50] <dr_willis> admi:  no need for the @,  find an extension for your browser that changes the user agent.
[08:51] <admi> dr_willis : i tried but they say that these extensions are for wondows
[08:51] <AdvoWork> im running a wine program, and the error states Too many open files, ulimit -n probably needs to be increased. its already 1024, how do I know what to set this to and how do i change it? I assume its setrlimit?
[08:54] <aboobacker> http://askubuntu.com/questions/158558/help-with-quickly
[08:54] <aboobacker> help please v
[08:54] <BlueEagle> AdvoWork: I would assume the configuration file of wine would be a good place to look. If 1024 is not enough then I would ask what you are doing in Wine that spawns so many open files. :/
[08:55] <dr_willis> !info quickly
[08:55] <BlueEagle> aboobacker: Could you give a brief summary so I know if I should take the time to open the link?
[08:56] <blackthor> nobody had the same issue ever?
[08:56] <aboobacker> @BlueEagle at last I started a simple project (you tube video downloader) in quickly , But got stucked . I added youtube url entry dialog using quickly add dialog command and ;linked it to new button . How return url to the main window ? I don't have any previous experiance with python
[08:56] <BlueEagle> blackthor: Does another reboot cause the same issue?
[08:58] <aboobacker> @BlueEagle How to do it ?
[08:58] <BlueEagle> aboobacker: This is not twitter. Adding the @ makes the line _not_ highlight and thus defeates the purpouse of prefixing. As for the issue; sorry, nothing I know how to fix.
[08:58] <Angana> Hi ...team
[08:58] <tking> hi guys good morning, i just installed some properiety driver  called ATI/AMD proprietry FGLRX graphics driver and noticed my environment becomes darker
[08:58] <blackthor> BlueEagle: well,  the last reboot was triggered by  shutdown -r now
[08:58] <Angana> i am unable to make video call in pidgin
[08:58] <Angana> i am unable to make video call in pidgin
[08:59] <blackthor> as it is a production machine (which is currently back in use), i can't reboot it again to see if the problem persists
[08:59] <BlueEagle> blackthor: And if you try it again does the same issue arise?
[08:59] <BlueEagle> !repeat | Angana
[08:59] <BlueEagle> !details | Angana
[08:59] <Angana> okey...
[08:59] <blackthor> the machine had 100% uptime since it got installed, so i can only check next weekend if the problem keeps occurring,  just wondering if there were any clues to look at
[08:59] <Angana> am using ubuntu 12.4
[08:59] <BlueEagle> !enter | Angana
[09:00] <BlueEagle> Angana: Did you read !Guidelines btw?
[09:00] <Angana> pidgin Pidgin 2.10.3
[09:00] <blackthor> auto ethX  was included in the interfaces config file,  now browsing through the syslog
[09:00] <Angana> what guidline...
[09:00] <blackthor> to detect any suspicous output line
[09:01] <BlueEagle> blackthor: Well it could be an issue with modules not being loaded when the interfaces are brought up I guess. I would think dmesg would be a good place to start.
[09:01] <daveonearth> ola
[09:01] <BlueEagle> !guidelines | Angana
[09:01] <Angana> ok ..am reading the same..
[09:05] <blackthor> what would be the effect of removing avahi/avahi-daemon on a server?
[09:06] <k-rAd-> tell everyone to use safe and secure dns free and paid
[09:06] <BlueEagle> !info avahi
[09:07] <fred-fri> i have a one line script that i want to be run each time i log in (e.g. not on system boot- on my user login!). where should i put the line?
[09:09] <asiekierka> hello
[09:09] <asiekierka> so I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04, then to 11.10
[09:09] <asiekierka> but the upgrade to 12.04 broke
[09:09] <asiekierka> some packages were kept unupdated, like 290, including xserver ones
[09:09] <asiekierka> and now when I turn on the GNOME session I can't see any windows
[09:09] <Acid190> of course the 12.04 broke, it's no good lol
[09:10] <asiekierka> but it's an LTS!
[09:10] <asiekierka> how do i fix it?
[09:10] <werxxx> what is 12/.04?
[09:10] <Acid190> it's called an LTS, doesn't mean that is what it's currently capable of
[09:10] <Acid190> 10.04 is only real LTS right now, my opinion
[09:10] <asiekierka> What do I do in this case?
[09:10] <Acid190> fresh install always works for me
[09:11] <asiekierka> Acid190: i don't want to lose all the settings
[09:11] <croz> Is there a "How to Install and Setup Conky for Dummies" guide?
[09:11] <geirha> Nillerz: Ok, so the kernel is apparently not on the fritz when it happens. Next stop /var/log/syslog   find log line from the time of freeze, and look back 5-10 minutes for clues. If nothing there either, /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[09:11] <asiekierka> Acid190: i don't want to lose any settings, in fact
[09:11] <Acid190> of course, no one wants to lose anything
[09:11] <asiekierka> Acid190: but it's my dad's computer
[09:11] <asiekierka> which i'm naturally fixing
[09:11] <Acid190> ahhhhhhh
[09:11] <dr_willis> croz:  conky homepage and docs.  basically you make your own .conkyrc and run conky
[09:11] <asiekierka> so any way to fix invisible GNOME?
[09:12] <Acid190> ok, I just got here, what's really going on with the puter?
[09:12] <asiekierka> okay, i found a workaround
[09:12] <asiekierka> x-window-manager --replace
[09:12] <Acid190> good deal
[09:13] <Acid190> never had to use it, hope it works for ya
[09:13] <Acid190> ubuntu is like BIOS, if it works, don't update it :)
[09:14] <asiekierka> i was at 10.10 :|
[09:14] <Acid190> 10.10 is a good one too
[09:14] <asiekierka> was*
[09:14] <dr_willis> i tend to install so muuch cruft from helping people trouble shoot in here.. i find clean installs work best
[09:14] <asiekierka> i don't have it anymore
[09:14] <asiekierka> lol
[09:14] <k-rAd-> how could my oneiric be missing a crontab ?
[09:14] <AdvoWork> any reason why when dowloading files via ftp (so connecting to a remote server) and downloading files from there, to local client, it slows the internal network down?
[09:15] <k-rAd-> both sudo and normal user ?
[09:15] <dr_willis> ive had very few issues in 12.04 i think the nvidia bug i had finally got fixed ;)
[09:15] <Acid190> make your own "update" script for packaged, repositories, settings, etc....then you can fresh install anytime
[09:15] <asiekierka> Acid190: the hack fixed it!
[09:15] <asiekierka> great
[09:16] <Acid190> good job trouble shootin' it yourself
[09:17] <sha0coder> hi ppl
[09:17] <sha0coder> how can i disable services 4 ever?
[09:17] <croz> dr willis is there any default script for a 17.3" laptop
[09:18] <sha0coder> for ex mysql, and apache
[09:18] <sha0coder> ?
[09:18] <sha0coder> they arent in rc2.d, and are launched on the start
[09:18] <sha0coder> is rare ..
[09:21] <sha0coder> root@randori:/etc# ls rc?.d | grep -i mysql
[09:21] <sha0coder> root@randori:/etc#
[09:21] <sha0coder> o_O
[09:24] <dr_willis> croz:  thers literally 1000's of conky configs out there.
[09:25] <dr_willis> !upstart
[09:25] <dr_willis> if its a upstart controlled service it woulg et ran by the /etc/init/whater.conf file i belive
[09:29] <saimone> hi all, I am a newbie on linux and I have a problem of lag.
[09:29] <saimone> is there anyone to help me ?
[09:30] <k-rAd-> i can't get crontab to work on oneirc and firefox freezes up on me
[09:30] <Jonne> what sort of lag?
[09:30] <dr_willis> details are handy to tell us.
[09:30] <saimone> I have lags on video/music streaming
[09:30] <saimone> when I surf in general in fact
[09:31] <caf4926> saimone, you mean internet lag
[09:31] <saimone> is there something I have to check or fix
[09:31] <saimone> yes exactly
[09:31] <caf4926> saimone, the OS seems OK though
[09:31] <Nillerz> Alright, I'nm back
[09:32] <saimone> OS is an XFCE ubuntu (ubuntustudio)
[09:32] <dr_willis> by 'streaming' you mean what site exaxtly?
[09:32] <Nillerz> I'm pretty sure this isn't a heat related issue because I was just having my PC run while in a case for about 30 minutes
[09:32] <saimone> myspace, youtube and so on
[09:32] <dr_willis> so you mean 'flash video playback' not  general 'streaming'
[09:33] <caf4926> saimone, yes, can you download a file at good speed?
[09:33] <saimone> @dr_willis I don't think it's so specific
[09:33] <Nillerz> geirha, which syslog should I use?
[09:34] <Nillerz> nevermind I just opened hte one that wasn't last modified yesterday
[09:34] <dr_willis> this is not twitter... you  dont use @;s :)
[09:34] <ninjah> hi
[09:34] <saimone> how to verify caf4926 ?
[09:34] <ninjah> anyone here alive and living? cuz it seems that people at ubuntustudio are all
[09:34] <ninjah> well, gone
[09:35] <caf4926> saimone, try downloading openoffice manually
[09:35] <saimone> (sorry ! I don't tweet in fact... but I thought I need to do this way ^^)
[09:35] <caf4926> saimone, test streaming of this http://www.su2root.ukfsn.org/files/all_videos/Partitioning%20example%20win7-linux.mpeg
[09:37] <nailora> in what log file will i find information about network problems
[09:37] <ninjah> saimone, why so small part?
[09:37] <saimone> your streaming sounds good...
[09:37] <saimone> :/
[09:37] <p1rania> hello
[09:37] <ninjah> hi
[09:38] <Nillerz> http://pastebin.com/busgqDw7
[09:38] <anonymous_> Hellp
[09:38] <anonymous_> Hello
[09:38] <saimone> I don't understand ? "so small part" ?
[09:39] <ninjah> partitions
[09:39] <ninjah> nvm
[09:39] <ninjah> is here someone that uses ubuntustudio?
[09:39] <ninjah> or just mere ubuntu?
[09:39] <ninjah> cuz i was on ubuntustudio channel and i think they all retired or died
[09:39] <dr_willis> ubuntu dtudio just has extra packages installed by default i recall. and perhaps a differnt kernel
[09:40] <dr_willis> it is 5:30 am in the usa ;)
[09:40] <fidel> ninjah: there shouldnt be that much diff - so just give it a try
[09:40] <ninjah> it's 11 40 CET+1 and not just the yanks that use linux brother from another mother
[09:40] <Nillerz> That is /var/syslog
[09:41] <saimone> (afk talking with caf4926)
[09:41] <ninjah> i meant to ask why is it crashing... i updated it - and it just pauses when rendering
[09:41] <dr_willis> but im in thei channel at this time a great deal.. and this IS the slow time.
[09:42] <ninjah> i made a small tiny demo of a cartoon
[09:42] <ninjah> and that 1 minute - the bitch wont render it halfway
[09:42] <ninjah> oop
[09:42] <ninjah> s
[09:42] <ninjah> sorry for the bitch thing
[09:42] <fidel> !enter > ninjah
[09:43] <croz> dr_willis: where can i find conky files
[09:43] <Nillerz> geirha, where in the dmesg can you see where it bugs out?
[09:43] <fidel> ninjah: try to realize what application or process might cause your problem - just refering to 'it' causes usualy even more questions for us ;)
[09:44] <geirha> Nillerz: nowhere, so the kernel isn't reporting any errors when it happens
[09:44] <dr_willis> croz you mean example configs? conky homepage/forums/ubuntu forums,  dozens of theme sites..
[09:44] <ninjah> fidel, YOU ARE A BIGGER BITCH THAN YOUR BROTHER WAS. HE WAS SENDING ME AND MY PRESIDENT CIGARS back in a day. now i have to smoke Colombian
[09:44] <Nillerz> geirha, what did you read to tell me what was going on in the last message you sent me?
[09:45] <geirha> Nillerz: hm. Well not from any of the /var/log/dmesg files you've pasted though, but I see some error messages in that syslog
[09:45] <fidel> erm ...
[09:46] <ninjah> i am sorry fidel
[09:46] <fidel> ninjah: grow up and stick to the topic man
[09:46] <ninjah> colombians are fine too
[09:46] <ninjah> okay
[09:46] <fidel> its not kindergarten
[09:46] <geirha> Nillerz: In that syslog, it's complaining about an SD card
[09:46] <ninjah> okie dokie... but you're not as Free as you present yourself ubuntu users
[09:47] <geirha> Nillerz: 12:35 - 12:36 is about the time your system froze?
[09:48] <riktking> hi im having problems setting up SSH keys with putty into my 10.04 server can anyone help?
[09:48] <ninjah> fidel, may i use that joke, since i am a comedian and need to ask for every joke cuz i was occused of plagiarism before
[09:48] <Nillerz> Somewhere around that time...
[09:48] <Nillerz> one second let me check it with IRC times..
[09:49] <ninjah> 11 40 ETC+1
[09:49] <dr_willis> riktking:  i recall getting that going by following some guides. I think i had to let putty generagte the keys then concert them to a format ubuntu could use. then copied them over. beena while since ive lasgt used putty
[09:49] <riktking> dr_willis: thanks i followed a guide but i get server refused our key
[09:49] <Nillerz> actually no
[09:50] <Nillerz> that couldn't have been the time
[09:50] <ninjah> fidel, it's about Blender
[09:50] <riktking> its  no biggie id just like it to be seamless :D
[09:50] <Nillerz> because I was posting about this issue long before that
[09:50] <fidel> ninjah: dont talk to me - talk to the channel. thx
[09:50] <ninjah> and everything in between
[09:50] <Nillerz> I'm guessing I had the last crash at around 11:45
[09:50] <dr_willis> riktking:  it may need to be converted.  i seem to recall putty using some dfiffernt format.
[09:50] <riktking> ok
[09:50] <ninjah> what's wrong with you ?
[09:50] <Nillerz> if anyone could find the last thing I posted before the last crash and when I joined again, x-chat won't let me scrollup that far...
[09:50] <ninjah> you were asking me what's the problem
[09:51] <ninjah> and i said it to YOU, dear fidel
[09:51] <dr_willis> !logs
[09:51] <ikonia> ninjah: do you need ubuntu help ?
[09:52] <Noriandir> hi. does anyone know how to configure a ftp server with vsftpd?
[09:52] <fidel> ninjah: reading the following likn might help you get more help ... isnt that comedy too? http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[09:52] <ninjah> ikonia, yes ubuntu studio problems
[09:52] <Nillerz> thanks
[09:52] <Nillerz> :P
[09:52] <ikonia> ninjah: right, so ask the questions to the channel, no more silly jokes/rants/speeches
[09:52] <ninjah> fidel, don't talk to me - talk to the channel
[09:52] <ikonia> ninjah: correct, ask the channel for help
[09:53] <CIDR> [04:38:04] <Nillerz> http://pastebin.com/busgqDw7
[09:53] <CIDR> ?
[09:53] <xujun>  i want some help about squid. does anyone help me?
[09:53] <fidel> !anyone > xujun
[09:53] <fidel> !ask > xujun
[09:53] <xujun> ok
[09:53] <Nillerz> the time it's showing in the log is 8:31
[09:53] <Nillerz> but I'm in another time zone
[09:55] <Nillerz> so I'm guessing 11:30 or so
[09:55] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:55] <riktking> can someone say my name plz
[09:55] <ninjah> why no jokes? are we all turning into SOMETHING that's glued to the monitor, keyboard and a mouse? why can't be more casual about it?
[09:56] <dr_willis> ninjah thats what #ubuntu-offtopic is for.
[09:56] <CIDR> riktking
[09:56] <ninjah> just asking... and i need help about ubuntustudio which has told me to ask you people cuz it has noone on now to help me
[09:56] <I-0> can any 1 tell me how to clear the screen ?
[09:56] <CIDR> type clear
[09:56] <ninjah> clr?
[09:56] <CIDR>  or /clear
[09:56] <ninjah> oh
[09:56] <riktking> CIDR: thanks, im testing notifications
[09:56] <dr_willis> ninjah:  ive not even seen you ask an actual question. but i may have missed it...
[09:56] <CIDR> i figured
[09:57] <ninjah> you have missed it dear doc
[09:57] <TvL2386> hey guys, I'm having an Intel 82599 10G NIC. Ubuntu12.04 comes with driver ixgbe version 3.6.7-k. I've downloaded the latest driver 3.9.17-NAPI and "make installed" it. I see /lib/modules/3.2.0-26-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ixgbe/ixgbe.ko is overwritten by a newer file. I've rebooted the server but ethtool -i eth4 still shows version 3.6.7-k??? After rmmod ixgbe ; modprobe ixgbe the ethtool command shows the correct version. How can I fix t
[09:57] <TvL2386> his?
[09:57] <xujun10123> xujun10110
[09:57] <I-0> clear
[09:57] <CIDR> I-0 /clear in irc
[09:58] <ninjah> so the probably FAQ question is: i have upgraded and updated the ubuntu studio. tried to render a minute and some secs of a, lets' say a demo for a cartoon
[09:58] <cordoval> guys who can tell me the non interactive version of sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nginx/stable ?
[09:58] <cordoval> it asks for ENTER
[09:58] <ninjah> and the it just PAUSED everything, and none of the keyboards or the mouse button were working
[09:58] <cordoval> and i want it to be yes and unattended
[09:58] <Guest50140> q
[09:58] <xujun10123> test
[09:59] <ninjah> it does that even if i watch a plain DVD
[09:59] <I-0> !proxy
[09:59] <I-0> !cloak
[10:00] <Nillerz> I-0, I'm in a country that blocks internet access. I need to get around these.
[10:00] <Nillerz> I'd appreciate it if I weren't yelled at by a perl script for doing so
[10:00] <ninjah> i'd like to help in translations to ex-yugoslavian languages.
[10:00] <I-0> Nillerz : use ssh
[10:00] <Nillerz> I-O : no, I'm trying to fix an issue.
[10:01] <croz> dr_willis: which sites did you say i can find conky files again. i had to restart.
[10:01] <Nillerz> I'm not being disruptive, I'm not spamming or trolling.
[10:01] <dr_willis> croz the conky homepage....
[10:01] <ninjah> so no help
[10:01] <ninjah> okay
[10:01] <croz> I don't see any config files there. Maybe I'm missing it. http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[10:01] <CIDR> so your box locks up when you render some stuff?
[10:01] <CIDR> was there anything in any relevnt logs?
[10:02] <ninjah> jesus if you are all so uptight, wonder what the microsoft jerk are
[10:02] <Nillerz> CIDR, If you're talking to me, I don't see any, though I'm still digging through. I don't know what exactly triggers the issues
[10:02] <CIDR> I was talking to ninjah
[10:02] <I-0> Nillerz  : When your proxy is   expired ? suppose i set proxy , then up to how much time they will be fresh
[10:02] <glitsj16> cordoval: add the -y switch to assume yes to all queries
[10:03] <cordoval> glitsj16: oh
[10:03] <Nillerz> I-O, it's a VPN
[10:03] <ninjah> CIDR, doing anything now will cause the crash
[10:03] <ninjah> as i said if watchin a mere movie on a dvd
[10:03] <I-0> Nillerz : !vpn
[10:03] <c0rnel> hello all
[10:03] <CIDR> It locks?
[10:03] <CIDR> ctrl+alt+f1 or anything give you a console?
[10:04] <c0rnel> what interfaces are available for printer management in 1204?
[10:04] <dell> hello
[10:04] <I-0> mode/#ubuntu [+j 5:10] by FloodBot3     : can any one tell me what that means
[10:04] <ninjah> nothing. no key, no mouse - just the REBOOT or 7 secs of waiting to shutdown button
[10:04] <ninjah> i mean on the case
[10:04] <cordoval> glitsj16: but it is ENTER not yet
[10:04] <CIDR> I-0 it throttles joins
[10:05] <dr_willis> http://conky.sourceforge.net/faq.html
[10:05]  * xujun10123 
[10:05] <cordoval> oh it works
[10:05] <CIDR> I-0 bot just did it automatically after the netsplit
[10:05]  * xujun10110 
[10:05] <CIDR> So only 5 users can join in 10 seconds at a time.
[10:05] <I-0> dr_willis : conky is not working on my gnome 3 .What Should i do ?
[10:06] <ct529> hi there .... how can I partition a new disk using GPt rather than old MBR 4 partition structure
[10:06] <dr_willis> I-0:  check the forums and askubuntu.com to see if any known issues or work arounds are needed
[10:06] <dell> hello anyone
[10:06] <dell> anyone from holland
[10:07] <glitsj16> c0rnel: you can use your web browser for printer management .. try http://localhost:631 and you'll get the CUPS interface
[10:07] <zq__> 第一次发现这么高端的聊天工具。。。
[10:08] <jatt> yes
[10:08] <c0rnel> glitsj16, that's the best interface?
[10:08] <Nillerz> I'm missing a huge chunk of logged data in my syslog
[10:08] <dr_willis> cups web interface - is the 'best'of all ive used to manage printers
[10:08] <Nillerz> The syslog file prior to the current one goes up until 1530 yesterday
[10:08] <Nillerz> and the current one starts after the last crash
[10:08] <chalcedony> good morning dr_willis :))
[10:08] <dr_willis> 6 am: Joy!
[10:08] <c0rnel> dr_willis, ok, thank you
[10:09] <glitsj16> c0rnel: can't say i use anything else really, i hardly print to paper
[10:09] <chalcedony> does anyone know of a ubuntu related pill reminder alarm that can wake someone up to take meds?
[10:09] <CIDR> chalcedony just make a normal reminder on any calendar?
[10:09] <xb3289> TO zq__: 是吗? 我也是第一次用 :)
[10:09] <I-0> CIDR : if i configure sshd_configure and change its port from 22 to 2222 , what should es supposed the effect on ssh tunnel working via firefox
[10:09] <chalcedony> CIDR, we dont know how to do that?
[10:09] <CIDR> I-0 none
[10:09] <chalcedony> he's got lubuntu
[10:10] <CIDR> I-0 will work the same
[10:11]  * xujun10110 
[10:12] <I-0> CIDR : so, why we need to change the port . Can you suggest me the condition ?
[10:12] <CIDR> port 22 is blocked?
[10:12] <CIDR> run a service on a non standard port incase a vulnerability exsists for it, and things are scanning for ssh servers?
[10:12] <xujun10123> gdfgk
[10:12] <CIDR> because it's fun?
[10:13]  * xujun10123 
[10:15] <I-0> CIDR : ok ! which of the following is sevice ccpd or cups and use for what purposes
[10:15] <Nillerz> I'm at a loss. How come a whole chunk of time is gone from my syslogs?
[10:15] <CIDR> cups is for printing
[10:15] <CIDR> What's with the random questions, homework?
[10:16] <CIDR> Nillerz not sure
[10:17] <Elchzard> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1070087/
[10:17] <al3x> join #defocus
[10:17] <Nillerz> Well, until it crashes again, there's no way of me finding out what exactly caused the crash.
[10:17] <I-0> CIDR : i'm reading  a book of readhat   , i don't have printer but i want to know what that are for . can you tell me what is ccpd please ?
[10:17] <Elchzard> Anyone, any ideas on how I can get this python script to run in the background?
[10:18] <Elchzard> (From the sh script :P)
[10:18] <CIDR> cannont print driver.  Just google it?
[10:18] <CIDR> oh well, need to get some sleep.
[10:18] <CIDR> Later guys
[10:21] <I-0> if i use elit proxy then upto how  much they will be referesh ?
[10:21] <geirha> Elchzard: Apparently it must be connected to a terminal, but telling screen to not attach should suffice.
[10:22] <xujun10110> Does anyone know how to use squid to cache hot videos?
[10:22] <Elchzard> geirha: -rmS ?
[10:22] <Elchzard> * -dmS
[10:22] <geirha> Elchzard: Remove all the '&' you've randomly littered your script with. They serve no purpose
[10:23] <Elchzard> That's an old iteration, i think they're mainly gone now :p
[10:23] <Dr_O> Why do you want to run it in screen?
[10:23] <geirha> Elchzard: I don't remember the screen options for that off-hand. #screen can probably better help you with the options
[10:23] <Elchzard> Dr_O: If I run without screen, it gives its output directly to the terminal I ./unusedfiles.sh from
[10:23] <Dr_O> So redirect the output to a log file?
[10:24] <AdvoWork> hi there, im accessing my dedicated server via https://whatever:whatever and its giving me a The sites security certificate is not trusted(in chrome) any idea how I fix that, in 12.04?
[10:24] <I-0> if i use elit proxy then upto how  much they will be referesh ?   please help me ,its my homework
[10:25] <geirha> Elchzard: Also consider reading the BashGuide (See /topic #bash). That script is overly complicated and error prone; best learn bash properly.
[10:25] <Dr_O> Elchzard: ( my-verbosescript >/my.log 2>&1 ) &
[10:25] <geirha> the ( and ) serve no purpose there
[10:26] <Dr_O> I was about to say that!
[10:26]  * Dr_O hangs head in shame!
[10:27] <AdvoWork> anyone here use Cinnamon?
 Elchzard: ( my-verbosescript >/my.log 2>&1 ) &           :     >/     : what sign is  this
[10:28] <geirha> I-0: It's > file where file is an absolute path in this case
[10:28] <Razva> hi folks! I've just installed x11vnc on my ubuntu machine, than rebooted
[10:28]  * xujun10110 
[10:28]  * xujun10123 
[10:28] <Razva> now I'm trying to connect again to the vnc server but...it doesn't works
[10:28] <Razva> the screen is at the login point
[10:28] <Razva> should I login, than start the vnc client?
[10:29] <croz> can i just copy paste this and it will work? does all of that go into /bin/bash or is it a conkyrc file?
[10:30] <I-0> geirha  : can you suggest me good lessons for this
[10:30] <jatt> !enter
[10:30] <geirha> I-0: http://bash-hackers.org/wiki/doku.php/howto/redirection_tutorial
[10:30] <fidel> Razva: is the vnc service running already?
[10:30] <geirha> I-0: Also see the other resources given in #bash's topic.  /topic #bash
[10:31] <Razva> fidel: well...I'm looking in the console right now and I don't think it's tarted
[10:32] <Razva> is there any way to start the vnc server without logging in?
[10:32] <Razva> the idea is that I wanna get rid of the monitor, but control the desktop via vnc
[10:32] <Razva> so I need some way to start the vnc server without a monitor, via bash
[10:33] <Razva> hah, after logging out (from the X server) the vnc connection crashed
[10:33] <fidel> Razva: ensure your vnc service of choise is started during boot
[10:34] <Razva> so I suppose that, via bash, I need to somehow...login...?
[10:34] <fidel> Razva: login via ssh - setup vnc service - reboot - try to connect with your vnc-client to your vnc-server
[10:35] <fidel> at least thats some way of mini-test i would do to ensure the service is running directly after booting
[10:35] <geirha> croz: copy paste what?
[10:36] <I-0> geirha : is proxy make internet slow ? when i visit http://www.proxynova.com/proxy-server-list/ , there i found elit proxy , i found their life very less .Sorry to ask stupid question as i don't know any thing about proxy .Is proxy have some life time ?
[10:36] <dr_willis> you can start a vnc session  from rc.local or on the fly as a service
[10:36] <Dr_O> Razva: you know that X is network aware and so you can just ssh in with X forwarding and run remotely (if you have a local X server)
[10:37] <Razva> fidel: lol, I've just started x11vnc with -create, and it created me a...bash console... :)) ok, so the next question would be: is there any way to arrive at the login screen without being logged in to X already?
[10:38] <Razva> Dr_O: no, the client is on windows
[10:38] <Razva> the thing I wanna do is simple: give each person a way to login to their own user, on X, on the server
[10:38] <dr_willis> Razva: use a different vnc server. no visible x session needed to be ran on the server
[10:39] <dr_willis> ssh in. run vncserver. get own vnc desktop.
[10:39] <Razva> dr_willis: ok, any recommendations? I've tried x11vnc but seems that it doesn't has no visible x session...
[10:39] <dr_willis> connect with vnc client. repeat for others
[10:40] <dr_willis> most vnc servers work the way i said. x11vnc is an exception
[10:40] <dr_willis> as is vino
[10:40] <Razva> ah, ok
[10:40] <solidus-lake> is there an easy way to get gimp-2.8 on ubuntu-12.04 without using a repository that has known issues?
[10:40] <Razva> tightvncserver - virtual network computing server software
[10:40] <Razva> vnc4server - Virtual network computing server software
[10:40] <Razva> xtightvncviewer - virtual network computing client software for X
[10:40] <Razva> xvnc4viewer - Virtual network computing client software for X
[10:40] <FloodBot1> Razva: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:40] <Dr_O> You could check out NX technology for this use case. reall shame freenx never hit it big
[10:40] <dr_willis> bbl
[10:40] <Razva> tightvncserver < this should do tha trick?
[10:41] <Razva> *the
[10:42] <I-0> dr_willis : is elite proxy has some life time ?
[10:42] <stevieg> hi all...have an Intel based thinclient with a DVI-I video output. Using Intel#s xorg driver. Used a video splitter from DVI-I to two VGA monitors. Xrandr detects only one VGA port (as expected). Is there a way to highlight that I've got two VGA monitor connections?
[10:44] <croz> I just want a conky file i can copy, put on my system, and it work.
[10:45] <fidel> croz: and where is the problem?
[10:45] <croz> there is no problem i just want one. do you have a nice looking yet effective conky file
[10:45] <fidel> got several ones - but conky files need manual love anyways tzo fit your needs
[10:48] <croz> thats the thing i just want a nice looking, basic. i dont want to show love to conky
[10:48] <croz> i got work to do and im also trying to learn programming as a hobby (python)
[10:48] <croz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12063632&postcount=20126
[10:48] <croz> look at that one
[10:49] <Nipas_> Hello! I Have 12.04 and after installation/updates etc, I decided to try KDE 4.9 beta via adding the ppa etc. All good but browser fonts since then, are ugly (badly rendered) even after removing kde an returnong to gnome/unity
[10:49] <wh1zz0> Hi guys... I have just updated to 12.4 Precise Pangolin and my cursor is annoyingly and extremely BIG! I have searched google for a solution but found none so far, I have even tried to change the theme from dconf tools editor to DMZ-black but it still remains too big. Here is ascreenshot of how my cursor looks... http://imagebin.org/219176.. Pls help, it's really ugly
[10:51] <croz> fidel come back to me!
[10:53] <wh1zz0> Anyone?
[10:53] <wh1zz0> whew
[10:57] <Razva> installed tightvnc, but it shows some weird desktop...
[10:57] <psicobra> hi all
[10:58] <psicobra> been a long time
[10:58] <psicobra> !floodbit
[10:58] <psicobra> !floodbot
[10:59] <psicobra> !ubottu
[10:59] <gisli_> any GNU Screen users here? I'm having problems with "source .screenrc", it tells me the commands are not found...
[10:59] <wh1zz0> part
[11:00] <geirha> gisli_: you're trying to run screen commands with bash. That's bound to fail.
[11:00] <psicobra> i just ordered another home mad ssd drive for my ew linux lappy when it arrives cant wait
[11:00] <geirha> gisli_: There's a #screen channel btw.
[11:00] <psicobra> *made
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> psicobra  chit chat in #ubunyu-offtopic, please
[11:00] <fidel> psicobra: any support question for that? as we try to move non-support things to #offtopic
[11:00] <anthony_630> hello! Are you know any download menegers for linux?
[11:00] <fidel> !ot > psicobra
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu*
[11:01] <angs> I am trying to install a driver on ubuntu 12.04 on an embedded board. when I type make I get the following error http://pastebin.com/wRqt7X3R  that links to wrong directory. It links to ...arch/armv7l/Makefile instead of arch/arm/Makefile   .. This is the Makefile of the driver installation file (not .../arch/arm/Makefile directory) http://pastebin.com/s9TJ9uk2   . What line do I need to change in the makefile in order to fix the link problem?
[11:01] <fidel> anthony_630: jdownloader is pretty common i guess
[11:01] <psicobra> fair enough
[11:01] <gisli_> geirha: woops...I thought source just read the file after it is updated. Yeah there is #screen but no activity, was hoping someone here could help :p
[11:02] <anthony_630> thanks!
[11:02] <croz> anyone know of a good howto guide for conkey for linux noobs?
[11:02] <melvincv> is there an easy guide to help me generate a .deb file locally from source?
[11:02] <fidel> croz: http://conky.sourceforge.net/documentation.html
[11:02] <geirha> gisli_: I see screen has a source command too. So  Ctrl+A :source ~/.screenrc
[11:03] <fidel> croz: either start by manually creating a file - or search one out of those thousands showing some specific config - OR use the default conf and tweak it
[11:03] <fidel> i still dont get where your problem with that is.
[11:03] <croz> im a noobie bro! help me out!
[11:03] <croz> how long does it take to learn this? 10 hours? :(
[11:04] <croz> like i dont get that the guy has /bin/bash stuff pasted in there
[11:04] <croz> but isnt the file a conkyrc file
[11:04] <croz> in the home directory
[11:04] <geirha> gisli_: I'd probably just run the changed commands manually though, via C-a:
[11:06] <fidel> croz: its about 2 minutes using the default config - maybe adding some minutes reading the docs
[11:07] <gisli_> geirha: yeah...but it would be better to automatically load them at startup. Thanks though, the :source-way doesn't even work
[11:07] <fidel> as there are about millions of conky-howtos&tutorials i doubt it makes sense to quick-do anotherone inhere as long as you have no actualy issue/problem with conky you want to troubleshoot with us
[11:07] <geirha> gisli_: hm? the screenrc file should be loaded at startup already
[11:08] <gisli_> geirha: yeah it should...but for some reason it aint
[11:09] <croz> fidel i want a pretty one too though
[11:09] <croz> like transparent and stuff
[11:10] <nutgear> hi, I have ubuntu 11.04, on an acer laptop that refuses to run higher versions of ubuntu, and I'm trying to get a netgear wnda 3100 v2 wireless usb to work on it.
[11:10] <croz> can you just tell me what i do with what those people paste onto the forums?
[11:10] <nutgear> following instructions I've installed it first on a windows computer to copy the inf and sys files
[11:10] <nutgear> but as it's vista, I can't find them!
[11:10] <nutgear> does anyone know how to get a copy of these?
[11:10] <geirha> gisli_: Hm. try specifying it explicitly with -c. Also, there's no byobu involved here, right?
[11:10] <nutgear> or another way maybe to get this wifi usb to work?
[11:12] <gisli_> geirha: hahaha holy cr**! Why do these things always happen to me? I've been trying to get this to work for about 20 minutes, just opened a fresh terminal and fired up screen and it worked (it is reading .screenrc). Turns out my "testing" shell was on another server :D
[11:13] <optimight> ?j #haskell
[11:14] <gisli_> geirha: thanks for your help though
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> gisli_  everybody thinks things only happen to them
[11:16] <pistolas> hi!
[11:16] <root> hi
[11:16] <gisli_> MonkeyDust: I never said that these things only happen to me?
[11:17] <gisli_> - ?
[11:17] <pistolas> i have a CRM and a websites builder.. sould i choose a cloud server or a dedicated server? i dont want vps!
[11:17] <pistolas> could someone help me?
[11:18] <fidel> croz: you create a textfile - insert your config - save it somewhere and start conky and tell it with the call which config to use
[11:18] <fidel> thats it in short
[11:19] <nutgear> pistolas you could try asking in #web ?
[11:19] <YOBA> PRIVET POCANI
[11:19] <fidel> and i am pretty saure reading some parts of the docs might have solved that question already ;) please dont get me wrong ;)
[11:19] <pistolas> ok 'nutgear' thanks :)
[11:19] <YOBA> IM FROM 2CH.SO IM RUSSKEY ANONIMOUS
[11:19] <nutgear> yeah netgear is a pain...
[11:19] <fidel> croz: or - as mentioned before - consider using the default config first and tweak it to your needs. like that you have a chance to learn/understand it
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[11:20] <YOBA> I M KOROCHE WANT TO INSTALL I2P
[11:20] <fidel> YOBA: please dont use CAPS
[11:21] <YOBA> IM FROM 2CH.SO MNE POHUY
[11:21] <geirha> gisli_: ehe, pebkac. It happens :)
[11:21] <nutgear> there should be a czech language version of this room somewhere
[11:22] <Ankhwatcher> Hey, I want to resize the partition that ubuntu is installed on and create a second partition from the space freed. How do I do that?
[11:22] <fidel> !cz
[11:22] <croz> i dont want to spend an hour doing that or two. i just want a pretty, nice working one. :D
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> !cz
[11:22] <Ankhwatcher> Is it safe to unmount the hard drive that the OS is running on?
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> Ankhwatcher  no and i guess you can't, even
[11:22] <fidel> Ankhwatcher: is it safe to remove the floor yo are staying on?
[11:23] <peetaur> haha fidel
[11:23] <fidel> not perfect picture - but somehow works i guess ;)
[11:23] <samba35> i am using windows 7 as a guest on ubuntu12.04 how do i activate sound on windows 7 ,i can see active speker on taskbar i am not able to get any sound
[11:23] <geirha> or cut the branch you're sitting on
[11:23] <fidel> samba35: virtualbox?
[11:23] <fidel> or what kind of vm-tech are you using?
[11:23] <samba35> sorry kvm
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> samba35  better ask in ##windows if you want to know how windiws works
[11:24] <peetaur> Ankhwatcher, you can remount it, but if you unmount it, your system will fail. Here is remounting (-o remount) it read only (-o ro): mount -o ro,remount /dev/sdX# /
[11:24] <Ankhwatcher> I'm trying to do this remotely. Am I going to have to wait until I go go home and boot the computer off a USB to do this? Or can I schedule changes to be made during a reboot
[11:25] <Ankhwatcher> samba35: did you install the virtualbox drivers and set Win7 to the virtualbox soundcard?
[11:25] <Ankhwatcher> samba35: also poke around in the VM settings and make sure that sound is enabled there.
[11:25] <samba35> i am using kvm not virtualbox
[11:26] <samba35> i am getting sound on host
[11:26] <oCean> Ankhwatcher: to resize your OS partition, you need to run gparted off a live image
[11:26] <Ankhwatcher> oCean: so it's time to make a bootable usb stick again!
[11:26] <oCean> samba35: maybe you could also try asking in #kvm (if nobody here can help you at this moment)
[11:27] <samba35> yes i am doing samething also
[11:27] <samba35> oCean, 1st try there
[11:31] <angs> I am trying to install a driver on ubuntu-desktop 12.04 on beagleboard-xm.  When I type "make", I get the following error http://pastebin.com/wRqt7X3R  that links to wrong directory. It links to ...arch/armv7l/Makefile directory instead of arch/arm/Makefile   .. This is the Makefile of the driver installation file (not .../arch/arm/Makefile directory) http://pastebin.com/s9TJ9uk2   . What line do I need to change in the makefile in order to fix the p
[11:31] <angs> roblem?
[11:31] <oCean> samba35: btw, have you seen this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/88291/how-do-you-get-sound-working-on-a-windows-7-guest-os-in-kvm-on-ubuntu-11-10
[11:32] <melvincv> I'd prefer the default scrollbar in ubuntu. why is it looking so complicated? It even gets in the way sometimes.
[11:32] <melvincv> *normal scrollbar
[11:33] <samba35> i have removed apparmor long time back
[11:33] <samba35> i will check other options
[11:33] <samba35> thanks oCean
[11:33] <croz> fidel you around?
[11:33] <croz> what do i do with portions of scripts that show this
[11:33] <croz> #!/bin/sh
[11:33] <croz>  /sbin/iwconfig ath0|grep Rate|cut -d"M" -f1|cut -b20-24
[11:33] <melvincv> Hope I can get back the normal scroll. I'm using lubuntu for a while.
[11:33] <croz> and are labeled as .conky-wifi
[11:37] <tornado369> Hi guys, i have a problem with my ubuntu. The audio works on the system (youtube,mp3,ecc.) but now in wine. How can I solve this?
[11:39] <zveda> omgosh I found the whaya song
[11:39] <zveda> oops sorry
[11:39] <geirha> tornado369: run winecfg and tweak the sound settings. Try switching between alsa and oss sound systems
[11:41] <tornado369> geirha: i have not alsa or oss in my options. I can chase between "audio of system", "default" and my audio card's model
[11:42] <geirha> tornado369: Oh, must've been changed since last I messed around with wine. Hm. Not sure then. Maybe #winehq has some ideas.
[11:43] <tornado369> geirha: Thank you, I'm trying now, see you later
[11:44] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:50] <sachael> apparently the top-right corner of my touchpad is middle click, as per RTCornerButton=2. In what config file is this written? I don't have xorg.conf
[11:53] <sachael> did I connect correctly? this channel seems awfully quiet..
[11:53] <Pici> sachael: yep, you've just caught the channel in a low period.
[11:54] <sachael> oh, ok, a bit strange for a channel with 1500 users :)
[11:54] <erle-> does anybody know how to encode videos with arista without crash?
[11:55] <ikonia> erle-: tried mencoder ?
[11:55] <sachael> so, anyway, in what config file is the touchpad configured? I need to remove RTCornerButton; seems /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf might be the right place
[11:56] <erle-> ikonia, i would like to use some presets
[11:57] <angs> I am trying to install a driver on ubuntu-desktop 12.04 on beagleboard-xm.  When I type "make", I get the following error http://pastebin.com/wRqt7X3R  that links to wrong directory. It links to ...arch/armv7l/Makefile directory instead of arch/arm/Makefile   .. This is the Makefile of the driver installation file (not .../arch/arm/Makefile directory) http://pastebin.com/s9TJ9uk2   . What line do I need to change in the makefile in order to fix the p
[11:57] <angs> roblem?
[11:58] <ikonia> erle-: there are some profile driven presets, it's a little hard to get used to working, but it's very solid
[11:58] <erle-> i also want aac audio and everything
[11:58] <erle-> without 3 different tools
[11:58] <ikonia> erle-: mencoder can handle audio
[11:59] <erle-> ok
[12:00] <erle-> ikonia, thanks, i googled something
[12:02] <SkippersBoss> My 12.04 crashed out. Anyone an idea where i focus my attention on ?? http://imagebin.org/219180
[12:05] <erle-> ikonia, compiled without libfaac-support in ubuntu ...
[12:06] <ikonia> erle-: that's frustrating, sorry
[12:07] <trong_khoi1234> kiemm ma
[12:08] <trong_khoi1234> Chan qua
[12:08] <erle-> ikonia, ffmpeg also
[12:08] <erle-> why the fuck?
[12:08] <erle-> sorry, for that language
[12:08] <IdleOne> erle-: Please no cursing
[12:10] <StaRetji> folks, I have problem recording audio from input line (Ubuntu server 12.04 precise). I would really appreciate assitstancc
[12:10] <erle-> ikonia, what to prefer, mencoder or ffmpeg?
[12:11] <erle-> i will build one now myself
[12:11] <StaRetji> no audio is played, whatsover, card is present, alsamixer is there, all unmuted, tried pulse audio (note it is headless system).
[12:12] <ikonia> erle-: ffmpeg is more accepted, I like mencoder though, but that's just me
[12:19] <SouthAfrica> good day
[12:22] <RomeoAva> Can some one help witha Samsung Multifunction SCX-4001 instaall, please?
[12:23] <RomeoAva> bchemnet, there is someone available please?
[12:25] <RomeoAva> I have Ubuntu11.10 do you think is a good idea to change to Ubuntu 12.04?
[12:25] <iceroot> RomeoAva: never touch a running system
 what means that?
[12:26] <iceroot> RomeoAva: there is no need for an upgrade if everything is working fine
[12:26] <RomeoAva> Ubuntu 12.04 is not so ready?
[12:26] <iceroot> RomeoAva: 12.04 is great but if everything is working fine there is no need to upgrade
 my scanner from Samsung Laser multifunction doesn't work
[12:27] <shaneo> Hi guys since yesterday my sound has stopped working in chromium. The system sound works but no youtube videos or anything else works
[12:27] <iceroot> !scanner | RomeoAva
[12:27] <RomeoAva> I have a few days of instaling and uninstalling and nothing yet
[12:28] <RomeoAva> simlpe scann doesn't see my scanner
[12:28] <RomeoAva> xsane the same
[12:28] <iceroot> RomeoAva: use the link about supported hardware
[12:29] <RomeoAva> ok
[12:37] <erle-> ikonia, libvo_aacenc ist the solution
[12:37] <erle-> ffmpeg supports that
[12:37] <ikonia> that's useful
[12:38] <erle-> for your info, because all the forum discussions you find at google use options that dont exist any more
[12:38] <shaneo> chromium isnt showing up in applications in the sound menu settings could that be one of the reasons why theres no sound frow web apps
[12:38] <shaneo> *from
[12:38] <sasho> /pingme!
[12:38] <shaneo> all was well yesterday and now today when i try to watch youtube clips theres no sound at all only system
[12:39] <SouthAfrica> Are there any ubuntu geniuses in here? Africa needs your help.
[12:40] <ikonia> SouthAfrica: just ask you question
[12:49] <croz> Anyone know how to get Skype to stop fucking popping up for every incoming message?
[12:50] <ikonia> croz: tone down the language
[12:50] <IdleOne> !language | croz
[12:50] <croz> !language
[12:50] <croz> ah ok sorry
[12:50] <IdleOne> croz: don't remember exactly where in the settings but you can disable the popups
[12:50] <croz> nah
[12:50] <croz> ive checked
[12:50] <IdleOne> settings for skype that is
[12:51] <croz> windows skype poops on the linux one
[12:55] <melvincv> croz: I see that they have released v4 of Skype for linux, but it's almost the same.
[12:56] <croz> no way
[12:56] <croz> the windows one looks way better.
[12:56] <croz> on linux you have two windows at startup. windows is always one window
[12:57] <croz> and you can control which chats or contacts will notify you if they say something
[12:57] <croz> on skype you cant do that
[12:57] <croz> err on linux
[12:57] <ikonia> croz: contact skype if you're not happy with the productg
[12:57] <ikonia> croz: it's closed source "linux" can't do anything about how good/bad it is
[12:58] <croz> :(
[12:59] <croz> When I try to play counterstrike source the screen freezes and i start getting some messages in a terminal saying neauveua or some shit
[12:59] <croz> do you know how to fix that?
[13:02] <iceroot> croz: 1. change your language, 2. install the nonfree nvidia driver
[13:03] <iceroot> !nvidia | croz
[13:03] <qw[UA]> tell me please channel about offtopic
[13:03] <iceroot> !ot | qw[UA]
[13:03] <qw[UA]> thanks
[13:05] <Squad42> hey
[13:06] <WeThePeople> hwclock didnt work for setting the hardware clock.. is their a alternative?
[13:06] <gry> Hello. Squad42
[13:07] <azei> hello there
[13:07] <Squad42> jest ktos z Polski??
[13:07] <azei> anyone can explain what this contab doing http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071223/ ?
[13:07] <ikonia> oops
[13:07] <ikonia> !pl  |Slacker|
[13:07] <ikonia> !pl  | Squad42
[13:08] <azei> heloo ?
[13:09] <gRAVIty_> hi
[13:09] <azei> anyone can explain what this contab doing http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071223/ ?
[13:11] <gry> ikonia: A follow-up on what we did to NetworkManager before. Setting managed=true didn't fix the problem, but made it worse - now commenting everything in /etc/network/interfaces does not get rid of the delay and errors (waiting for network configuration, waiting 60 more seconds for network configuration, booting without full network configuration).   I see I need networkmanager for mobile broadband, and I probably don't need /etc/network/interfaces and wh
[13:11] <gry> (Let me know if that got cut off)
[13:11] <gRAVIty_> ethernet problem in 12.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071229/ . can someone check this out?
[13:11] <Pici> it got cut off. (at and w)
[13:12] <gRAVIty_> gry: can you check this out? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071229/
[13:12] <gry> and whatever application uses it, if it's optional.
[13:13] <shaneo> could someone please assist me I have no sound in chromium
[13:13] <gry> gRAVIty_: When do you get these messages?
[13:13] <gry> shaneo: Do you have sound elsewhere?
[13:13] <gRAVIty_> when the ethernet does not work
[13:13] <shaneo> gry, yes everywhere but chromium
[13:13] <gRAVIty_> i have been struggling with this for a week now
[13:13] <gry> gRAVIty_: Does it always not work, or does it work intermittedly?
[13:13] <gRAVIty_> it works intermittedly
[13:14] <gRAVIty_> i am now using linux
[13:14] <gry> shaneo: What kind of web page lacks sound? Is it a Flash applet?
[13:14] <shaneo> youtube
[13:14] <shaneo> gry, its pretty much everything no pandora, youtube, soundcloud
[13:16] <gry> shaneo: give me a few minutes.
[13:16] <shaneo> gry, ok np
[13:16] <ikonia> gry: got most of that
[13:16] <ikonia> gry: so how are you going to manage it going forward ?
[13:17] <gRAVIty_> gry: Detailed description of the problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2010190
[13:17] <gry> ikonia: So far I see no GUI tool for mobile broadband other than NetworkManager, so I'd try to keep using it.
[13:17] <gry> gRAVIty_: What hardware are you using?
[13:18] <ikonia> gry: I'm inclined to agree
[13:18] <gRAVIty_> lenovo x200 tablet
[13:18] <gRAVIty_> gry: just a reminder it might help -Detailed description of the problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2010190
[13:19] <shaneo> gRAVIty_, thats a cool laptop
[13:19] <gRAVIty_> shaneo: gift :)
[13:19] <shaneo> gRAVIty_, thats a hell of a gift at $2500 :)
[13:20] <shaneo> your one lucky dude
[13:20] <gRAVIty_> shaneo: lovely uncle :)
[13:20] <shaneo> gRAVIty_, thats why I love family :)
[13:20] <gRAVIty_> shaneo, are you good at resolving ethernet problems? I have one which is bugging me since 7 days
[13:21] <shaneo> gRAVIty_, sometimes what seems to be the issue
[13:21] <gRAVIty_> shaneo:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2010190
[13:21] <gRAVIty_> shaneo: dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu 12.04 ethernet works sporadically
[13:22] <gRAVIty_> gry: there?
[13:22] <shaneo> gRAVIty_, did you see if their were any additional drivers for your card
[13:23] <gRAVIty_> shaneo: works sporadically. do u think looking for additional drivers helps?
[13:24] <shaneo> gRAVIty_, yeah it can help solve problems open Additional Drivers in Ubuntu and let it search for some
[13:24] <shaneo> gRAVIty_, always had issues with wifi till i installed the bcmwl drivers now all is good
[13:24] <gRAVIty_> shaneo: can you guide through the process? never had problems with drivers with this laptop and ubuntu. or some link where i can find
[13:25] <gry> gRAVIty_: I'm looking at it, give me a bit time
[13:25] <shaneo> gRAVIty_, use additional drivers from within Ubuntu no need to search
[13:25] <gRAVIty_> gry: sure no problem
[13:26] <gRAVIty_> shaneo: what should I search for?
[13:26] <shaneo> gRAVIty_, open the dash and start typing additional load the app and let it search for any propietary drivers
[13:27] <shaneo> gRAVIty_, if there are any Ubuntu will show them to you than just select it and install...if there are any
[13:27] <gRAVIty_> shaneo: no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[13:28] <shaneo> :(
[13:28] <shaneo> than you may have to wait on gry cause im not to good with the debugging part of ubuntu
[13:28] <gRAVIty_> :(. yup this seems to be a bit of a puzzle. Good thing with this problem has introduced me to IRC. Else I never would have stumbled upon IRC :)
[13:29] <gRAVIty_> shaneo: thanks for your help :)
[13:29] <gry> shaneo: Do you have sound in Firefox when you visit exact same sites?
[13:29] <shaneo> though im working on it. I've been thinking of helping with the Ubuntu manual to help expand my skills :)
[13:29] <shaneo> gry, i dont have ff
[13:29] <shaneo> but ill install it and try
[13:29] <spamaj> i'm trying to install language pack for libreOffice Writer but I'm getting "you need write permissions to install extension!" when i try to import extension from extension manager. Can anyone help with this?
[13:31] <Eagleman> Why isnt tcpdump just sjowing ip's instead of this:    15:30:08.105559 IP 546BCD9F.cm-12-4d.dynamic.ziggo.nl.54605
[13:31] <Eagleman> showing
[13:31] <gRAVIty_> spamaj: Try this http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=106030&p=599071
[13:31] <gry> shaneo: Would you mind installing firefox and checking for the issue in it for a test? (You can uninstall it later)
[13:31] <spamaj> thanks
[13:31] <gRAVIty_> spamaj: did you try googling your problem?
[13:32] <spamaj> yes .... but I still haven't found solution. That is why I  come here
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> gRAVIty_  don't say to google, when people ask for help, please
[13:32] <RagnaRok__> guys whenever i try to create a new project under netbeans (7.0.1) and switch to the design tab the preview window just reads "loading..." but nothing seems to happen how can i fix this
[13:32] <shaneo> gry, ok i installed and no sound there either
[13:32] <red> im using a USB headset with ubuntu, and for some reason I can hear the mic thru the headset speakers whenever its not muted -- can I disable that somehow
[13:32] <gry> gRAVIty_: Can you pastebin your ifconfig please?
[13:33] <gRAVIty_> gry: Sure
[13:33] <gRAVIty_> MonkeyDust: I am sorry
[13:33] <gry> shaneo: Try to find a link to switch to HTML5 Youtube instead of Flash. Does that (temporarily) enable sound in youtube?
[13:34] <shaneo> gry, in chromium or ff
[13:34] <IdleOne> www.youtube.com/html5
[13:34] <gRAVIty_> gry: Ethernet is working right now. WIll it help if I ifconfig now?
[13:34] <gry> ff
[13:34] <gry> Yes, please.
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> shaneo  gry it's youtube;com/html5
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> shaneo  gry it's youtube.com/html5
[13:35] <shaneo> MonkeyDust, Do i just join the trial and it works or do i need to enable it somewhere
[13:35] <gRAVIty_> gry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071283/   - The ifconfig
[13:35] <gry> Thanks
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> shaneo  join the trial
[13:36] <shaneo> gry, I think I enabled it and there is still no sound
[13:36] <gry> gRAVIty_: Right click networking icon, edit connections, wired tab, edit button, 'ipv4' tab. Which method is selected, please?
[13:36] <BlueEagle> spamaj: Is there a folder in your home directory that your user does not have write permissions to?
[13:36] <gry> shaneo: Thanks, I will take a look
[13:37] <gRAVIty_> gry: Automatic(DHCP)
[13:37] <shaneo> gry, I tried it in ff and chromium. Ok thanks
[13:37] <BlueEagle> spamaj: hint: `ls -la ~'
[13:38] <spamaj> BlueEagle, well this is administrative user so I guess all permissions are set as they should
[13:38] <Saiki> shaneo: does sound work elsewhere?
[13:38] <gRAVIty_> gry: I dont know if this info helps. I am also not able tot connect to an IRC channel through a client. I tried pidgin, irssi. Just mentioning. No idea if this helps. I am currently using an online IRC (client)
[13:38] <shaneo> Saiki, yes everywhere but chromium and ff
[13:39] <BlueEagle> spamaj: You're not running as !root are you?
[13:40] <BlueEagle> spamaj: Did you hever start any LibreOffice application with !sudo or !gksu?
[13:40] <spamaj> gRAVIty_, following link you posted I get this:  "chown: cannot access `/home/spamaj/.gvfs': Permission denied"
[13:40] <shaneo> spamaj, in a terminal try chown ~/.gvfs username:username
[13:40] <spamaj> BlueEagle,  no I started LibreOffice with icon i have on the dock
[13:41] <BlueEagle> spamaj: It appears that .gvfs is not owned by your user but rather by root. What does this yeld: ls -la ~|grep .gvfs
[13:41] <BlueEagle> spamaj: Yes, you will need to start a terminal in order to run that command.
[13:41] <moes> When I switch workspaces..it opens a desktop with four windows..How do I change this so that one window opens per desktop
[13:42] <gry> gRAVIty_: Hmm, 'uname -a' please?
[13:42] <Saiki> moes: you can right-click the windo itself on the taskbar and throw it to another desktop
[13:42] <gRAVIty_> gry: let me try that
[13:42] <Saiki> window*
[13:42] <gRAVIty_> gry: Linux ravikanth-ThinkPad-X200-Tablet 3.2.0-23-generic-pae #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 22:19:09 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[13:42] <BlueEagle> spamaj: Also, when people say !word in a chat that is an indication that there is a factoid associated with that word. To look up that factiod in IRC: /msg ubottu !word
[13:43] <spamaj> chown ~/.gvfs username:username  give this in terminal: chown: invalid user: `/home/spamaj/.gvfs
[13:43] <gry> gRAVIty_: amd or x86?
[13:43] <gRAVIty_> gry: x86
[13:43] <BlueEagle> spamaj: You need to change username with your actual user name.
[13:43] <Elchzard> Is there any way I can have a command run once there ISN'T a specific process running?
[13:43] <shaneo> spamaj, hmm thats odd
[13:44] <spamaj> ls -la ~|grep .gvfs yeld this: dr-x------  2 spamaj spamaj    0 Jul  2 14:19 .gvfs
[13:44] <shaneo> spamaj, is there anything in your .gvfs folder
[13:44] <BlueEagle> spamaj: Ok, according to that line you do not have write permission to .gvfs
[13:45] <shaneo> spamaj, also in a terminal do chmod 777 ~/.gvfs
[13:45] <shaneo> no sudo
[13:45] <BlueEagle> shaneo: Why are you giving EVERYONE access?
[13:45] <spamaj> BlueEagle, I did change username with my username (spamaj)
[13:45] <iceroot> shaneo: please dont suggest 777 here
[13:45] <iceroot> shaneo: 777 is always bad
[13:46] <BlueEagle> spamaj: Try chmod 700 ~/.gvfs
[13:46] <shaneo> BlueEagle, iceroot sorry
[13:46] <BlueEagle> spamaj: That will give you write access to the directory.
[13:46] <iceroot> shaneo: no problem
[13:46] <Elchzard> Anyone?
[13:46] <Elchzard> Is there any way I can have a command run once there ISN'T a specific process running?
[13:46] <iceroot> Elchzard: #bash   pgrep is imo what you want
[13:46] <BlueEagle> Elchzard: The best you can do is a !cron job that checks if the process is running. Set it to run how often you need.
[13:47] <BlueEagle> !cron > Elchzard
[13:47] <spamaj> well, still I can not add this extension :(
[13:47] <gRAVIty_> gry: If you have more insight into the problem please let me know. I will try googling parallely and see if i can find anything
[13:47] <BlueEagle> spamaj: Still saying you are missing privileges?
[13:47] <gry> gRAVIty_: I'm still searching relevant information, please, stand by
[13:48] <gRAVIty_> gry: sure
[13:48] <spamaj> BlueEagle, yes
[13:49] <BlueEagle> spamaj: Well are there any directories or files in your home directory that doesn't belong to you or where you don't have write permissions?
[13:50] <spamaj> BlueEagle, spamaj account is administrative account
[13:50] <BlueEagle> spamaj: That doesn't matter.
[13:50] <shaneo> spamaj, one thing you could do is remove the dir and recreate it as your username
[13:50] <BlueEagle> spamaj: There may still be folders that are owned by root.
[13:50] <shaneo> spamaj, as long as there is nothing important in it
[13:50] <spamaj> OK let me see what is in home
[13:51] <shaneo> spamaj, rm -rf ~/.gvfs && mkdir ~/.gvfs
[13:51] <BlueEagle> !rm
[13:51] <damo22> how do i instruct grub2 to use the bios_grub partition manually?
[13:52] <BlueEagle> damo22: /etc/default/grub or /etc/grub.d/ I guess.
[13:52] <damo22> do i tell grub2 to install to the MBR even though i have an EFI partition on a mac that i dont want to destroy
[13:52] <BlueEagle> !mac
[13:53] <gry> gRAVIty_: Please try to switch from 'DHCP' to 'Manual' and to enter the IPs manually.
[13:53] <gry> gRAVIty_: Then restart the ethernet connection and see if it works/behaves stably
[13:53] <gRAVIty_> gry: It is a dynamic Ip. not a static. what do I do for this?
[13:54] <gry> One minute, I'll try to find a good guide, I'm not sure in all the points needed
[13:54] <gRAVIty_> gry: ok
[13:56] <alessandro_> O que é isso?
[13:56] <Pici> !br | alessandro_
[13:57] <alessandro_> #ubuntu-br
[13:58] <gry> gRAVIty_: Try opening 10.5.1.1 in a browser, does it look like your router?
[13:58] <rocketmagnet> hi all
[13:58] <gRAVIty_> gry: ok
[13:58] <gry> gRAVIty_: (Then 10.1.1.1 after that)
[13:58] <mang3> Hi, i am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 with software raid. The installation successfully completes but after restart it cant find a valid boot device. I setup 2 identical disks with boot swap and root and created 3 raid devices with swap boot and root. What have i done wrong? :(
[13:58] <rocketmagnet> i've a question related to updaes - i allway update with apt-get update/upgrade, but i also get a window that shows me updates that apt-get tells me that are hold back
[13:59] <alessandro_> A galera fica apenas entrando e saindo?
[13:59] <gRAVIty_> gry: I dont think I have a router. It i sjust direct cable modem bu tI am trying your suggestions
[13:59] <iceroot> rocketmagnet: use dist-upgrade instead of upgrade
[13:59] <alessandro_> Gry?
[14:00] <gry> alessandro_: " /join #ubuntu-br "
[14:00] <rocketmagnet> iceroot: only $dist-upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[14:00] <rocketmagnet> i come from debian
[14:00] <gRAVIty_> gry: The connection has timed out . The server at 10.5.1.1 is taking too long to respond.
[14:01] <gry> Thanks, what about 10.1.1.1?
[14:01] <gRAVIty_> gry: Same with the other one
[14:01] <gry> I see, I'll need to figure out the modem IP and then we'll setup the connection manually (this is a possible solution per https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/124318)
[14:01] <spamaj> shaneo, rm: cannot remove `/home/spamaj/.gvfs': Device or resource busy
[14:02] <iceroot> rocketmagnet: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:02] <iceroot> rocketmagnet: its the same on debian
[14:02] <gRAVIty_> gry: ok
[14:02] <gry> Do not remove that unless you want to delete everything in the shares you're accessing. spamaj
[14:02] <iceroot> spamaj: dont remove that!
[14:02] <shaneo> spamaj, sounds like its mounted by an application. Are you running owncloud or anything
[14:02] <spamaj> I did backup everything that was important
[14:03] <iceroot> spamaj: dont remove that!!
[14:03] <iceroot> spamaj: .gvfs is not a normal directory
[14:03] <spamaj> ok
[14:03] <iceroot> spamaj: its the gnome virtual file system e.g. for the auto-mounter
[14:04] <shaneo> :( sorry guys ill stop giving advice
[14:04] <iceroot> shaneo: ok :)
[14:04] <gRAVIty_> gry: I am reading through the link. give  me a fwe mins
[14:04] <LjL> shaneo: if the advice involves removing important directories at least... :)
[14:04] <iceroot> LjL: shaneo or setting 777 :)
[14:05] <shaneo> lol thats some good advice :)
[14:05] <spamaj> well it was easy to install ubuntu .. but to run it ... looks like nothing for me :)
[14:05] <alessandro_> A dont make # /join ubuntu-br
[14:05] <spamaj> i can not even install language office pack :P
[14:05] <antoniuccio> buona giornata
[14:06] <LjL> !it | antoniuccio
[14:06] <iceroot> spamaj: what is the issue you are facing?
[14:06] <spamaj> iceroot, I'm trying to install extension to LibreOffice
[14:07] <shaneo> ugh no matter what browser I install I have no sound
[14:07] <iceroot> spamaj: what extension? is it in the repos?
[14:07] <wdp_> shaneo, chmod 777 your browser then. </scnr>
[14:07] <iceroot> shaneo: only in flash?
[14:07] <angs> what is the command to search a package "apt-get list ?"
[14:07] <wdp_> ^^
[14:07] <gRAVIty_> gry: I am not clear of what to do with the link. As in how do I set up the Manual DHCP
[14:07] <shaneo> ff, chromium, chrome, iron
[14:07] <iceroot> angs: apt-cache search foobar
[14:07] <angs> iceroot: thanks
[14:07] <shaneo> iceroot, i think so?
[14:07] <spamaj> Now i don't understand anything :P
[14:07] <shaneo> wdp_, haha
[14:08] <zax> hi change permissions whats the command from -rw- r-- r--  to  -rw- rw- r--  thanks
[14:08] <spamaj> i moved file i wanted to install (language extension) to other user home directory
[14:08] <iceroot> zax: chmod g+w
[14:08] <spamaj> and I managed to install it from there
[14:08] <fairuz> zax: chmod 664
[14:08] <iceroot> zax: its chmod g(roup) + w(rite access) so chmod g+w
[14:08] <zax> icsroot: thanks
[14:09] <spamaj> so looks like something is wrong with this account : spamaj that was meant to be administrative account
[14:09] <zax> iceroot: thanks
[14:09] <gRAVIty_> gry: there?
[14:10] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: can you check this? been struggling for a week with this. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2010190
[14:11] <jiffe98> mdadm seems to be sending me event alerts erroneously
[14:12] <jiffe98> it detected 3 newarray events over the weekend that didn't happen
[14:12] <gRAVIty_> anyone good with ethernet issues?
[14:12] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: using dhcp?
[14:12] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: yes
[14:13] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: It is currently working but it works sporadically
[14:13] <iceroot> you are using network-manager to handle it?
[14:13] <iceroot> gRAVIty_:
[14:13] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: yes. I tried Wicd - no improvement
[14:14] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: what is the output of "cat /etc/network/interfaces"
[14:14] <iceroot> !paste | gRAVIty_
[14:14] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: It is currently working. I am able to IRC now with this. I will do as u suggested
[14:15] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071340/
[14:16] <enroxorz> hey guys. what's the deal with ia32-libs?
[14:17] <saju_m> i setup netbeans with nfs shared project folder for development. But netbean taking long time to read and write to shared location. Can i do ant thing in NFS setup to speedup read and write ops.???
[14:17] <enroxorz> i cant install them and i need them for 2.3 Android SKD
[14:17] <enroxorz> SDK
[14:17] <enroxorz> anyone know a work around?
[14:17] <iceroot> enroxorz: we even dont know the error you are getting
[14:17] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: ok looks fine
[14:18] <enroxorz> sorry iceroot
[14:18] <saju_m> I also want to exclude some folder/file which are not require at client side and redice size of the shared folder.
[14:18] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: My Ethernet works fine FOR NOW.  but it stops suddenly for no reason.
[14:18] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: during the work? or just on the next boot?
[14:19] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: It is sporadic. It works sometimes and it does not work sometimes. No idea why
[14:19] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: checked another cable?
[14:19] <enroxorz> well now my terminal is coming back blank...
[14:19] <gRAVIty_> iceroot:I have a dual boot works perfect with windows 7
[14:19] <enroxorz> i hate reinstalling my ubuntu partition!
[14:19] <iceroot> saju_m: nfs is doing a locking when accessing a share. depending how much files you have nfs can be a problem
[14:20] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: ok
[14:21] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: gry suggested me to try manual DHCP and gave this link https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/124318 and disappeared
[14:21] <brendan`> anyone able to recommend a screenshot app for 11.10 to capture regions?
[14:21] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: I have a dynamic ip and I dont know how to set up manual DHCP
[14:22] <brendan`> gRAVIty_: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[14:22] <ericus> Hello, is it possible to run ClearOS in Virtualbox and have ClearOS to act as gateway/firewall even for the host OS (Ubuntu)?
[14:22] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: on the network-manager tool there is a point called ipv4 settings or something like that, there you can set a static ip instead of dynamic
[14:22] <Pici> brendan`: iirc, shutter can do that
[14:23] <brendan`> yeah i just found that in the software center
[14:23] <brendan`> installing now
[14:23] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: Let me find it
[14:23] <brendan`> ty
[14:23] <iceroot> brendan`: gimp for example
[14:23] <Pinkamena_D> hello
[14:23] <Pinkamena_D> can anyone help me set up ddclient for namecheap
[14:24] <sparr> I have a wired network connection and an unused wifi card. I'd like to turn my computer into an AP. What software can I use to do that?
[14:24] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: The problem is I dont know what the settings are for my connection. How should i find them? call the ISP and ask for what?
[14:25] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: or can i figure them out myself?
[14:25] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: yourself
[14:25] <Onixs> Hostapd
[14:25] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: its a local ip, your isp has nothing to do with a local ip
[14:25] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: ip 192.168.10.40  netmask 255.255.255.0  gateway 192.168.10.1
[14:26] <shaneo> gRAVIty_, do you know the address to your router and have access to it? If so all info can be found there
[14:26] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: I am confused because of a lack of understanding. I can only connect on computer. I have no router.
[14:26] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: can conect only to one computer
[14:27] <Eagleman> Why is why are my iptables blocking every incoming connection on eth1.10?  http://pastebin.com/W3LESsrz
[14:27] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: when you are using dhcp you have a dhcp server in your network
[14:27] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: without an dhcp server you would not get an ip
[14:27] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: ok
[14:28] <Pinkamena_D> can anyone help me set up ddclient for namecheap? i have tried namecheaps tutorial but it is very short and lacking
[14:28] <Phoenixz> My ISP cuts off non active SSH connctions after about a minute (yeah, I know), as long as there is some activity, it will keep the connection open.. Does SSH support some kind of heartbeat or something tyhatI could configure to just sent some traffic every.. 10 seconds or so?
[14:28] <iceroot> Eagleman: #iptables
[14:28] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: how do i figure out mys settings when I dont have a router?
[14:29] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2010190
[14:29] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: you already posted them
[14:29] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: if thatz is your thread
[14:29] <Pinkamena_D> or is their a better client that you would recommend?>
[14:30] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: that is my post. Since the IP is not static. Will have a problem? I was told the whenever I switch on my internet connection I will have a new IP address
[14:30] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: the ip we are talking about is not a public ip
[14:30] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: 192.168.10.40 is a local ip in your home network (also called lan)
[14:31] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: ok. This is where I am confused. It makes sense to have a local ip when you have multip computers but I have just one computer :(
[14:32] <duyphuong> mvcc
[14:32] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: you have a router in your network
[14:32] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: which connected the wan (internet) with the lan
[14:32] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: when you open a browser you should see your router/modem on http://192.168.10.1
[14:32] <gry> thank you iceroot
[14:33] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: let me check
[14:34] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: I dont see anything when I open 192.168.10.1 in th browser
[14:35] <gry> Isn't there a .linux command to see current gateway ?
[14:35] <RomeoAva> scanner for samsung SCX-4100 doesn't work
[14:35] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: what is the output of "route"
[14:35] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: route
[14:35] <iceroot> gry: route
[14:35] <dtcrshr> my trackpad stopped working the touch click after the last update, how do i get it back?
[14:35] <dtcrshr> on windows (dual booting) its working fine, so no hardware issues
[14:35] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071363/
[14:35] <RomeoAva> scannner for Samsung SCX-4100 doesn't work in Ubuntu 11.10
[14:36] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: output of "route" http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071363/
[14:36] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: nslookup hs.bluwifi.in
[14:36] <mang3> Hi, i am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 with software raid. The installation successfully completes but after restart it cant find a valid boot device. I setup 2 identical disks with boot swap and root and created 3 raid devices with swap boot and root. What have i done wrong? :(
[14:36] <lalle> OTAYMQErGA8IT0ZRMmFzM1VjSFU;E
[14:37] <lalle> anyone knows what encrypting that is?
[14:37] <iceroot> lalle: that is only maybe only a hash
[14:37] <sunshinehappy> my laptop is making a grinding sound :(
[14:37] <creature> mang3: I've recently done a very similar thing, and my system didn't boot either. I'm not sure it's anything you did wrong. For what it's worth, I found that using the boot-repair liveCD fixed it for me.
[14:37] <iceroot> mang3: used the alternate installer with the mdadm tool?
[14:37] <sunshinehappy> i was trying to set up graphics stuff yesterday
[14:37] <gry> lalle: Where did you get that?
[14:37] <lalle> gry: does it matter?
[14:37] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: nslook up output   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071366/
[14:37] <creature> mang3: My system had /boot on a RAID1 array, and / on a RAID5 array.
[14:38] <creature> mang3: You may have to use the very latest version of boot-repair; when it prompts you to upgrade when you launch the CD, be sure to say yes.
[14:38] <gry> lalle: it might be helpful to figure out what to do to read the information
[14:38] <lalle> iceroot: wich means?
[14:38] <lalle> gry: it is from a url, to a txt2img.cgi file.. it is the text
[14:38] <mang3> creature: thanks for that! :) I will try it right away. Have been feeling kida stupid all day :)
[14:39] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: hm
[14:39] <shaneo> lalle, than its probably a sha1
[14:39] <iceroot> gRAVIty_: your cable is connected to what?
[14:39] <lalle> what is it mirc encrypts?
[14:39] <iceroot> lalle: sha, md5 something like that
[14:39] <shaneo> lalle, also rsa
[14:39] <iceroot> lalle: mirc is using ssl
[14:40] <enroxorz> iceroot, hey buddy, sorry for the disappearance. my desktop went a bit wonky. I keep getting an error for ia32 libs. Opened up an Aksubuntu ticket up. http://askubuntu.com/questions/158650/ia32-libs-cannot-install-android-2-3-libs-on-ubuntu-12-04-x64
[14:40] <iceroot> lalle: for the connection itself
[14:40] <shaneo> lalle, IRC uses sha1WithRSAEncryption when connecting ssl
[14:41] <shaneo> most servers atleast
[14:41] <gry> shaneo: Were it you with no sound in chrome/firefox or was it someone else?
[14:41] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: what does the output mean?
[14:41] <shaneo> gry, thats me
[14:42] <saju_m> have any way to exclude files from NFS shared folder ???
[14:42] <gry> shaneo: What Chrome version are you using?
[14:42] <Phoenixz> My ISP cuts off non active SSH connctions after about a minute (yeah, I know), as long as there is some activity, it will keep the connection open.. Does SSH support some kind of heartbeat or something tyhatI could configure to just sent some traffic every.. 10 seconds or so?
[14:42] <shaneo> gry, the latest chromium
[14:42] <linuxsage> Hi, I ve recently installed fedora 17 alongside windows 7, and ubuntu but updating grub doesnt show fedora...any help
[14:42] <shaneo> gry, though i just installed iron
[14:44] <shaneo> gry, either way no matter what browser i install i get the same issue
[14:44] <shaneo> gry, i have installed every browser i could all with the same results
[14:44] <gry> What Ubuntu version are you using?
[14:44] <gRAVIty_> iceroot, gry: what does an ACPI error mean?
[14:44] <shaneo> gry, 12.04 amd
[14:44] <creature> mang3: I lost my entire weekend to it, so I know how you feel. :) The boot-repair guy suggested it was a problem with an incorrect fstab, if you wanted to try to fix this yourself.
[14:44] <gry> what's the exact error text please?
[14:45] <retif> where i can remove Alt+` binding?
[14:45] <shaneo> gry, the only app showing up in applications in the sound settings is screencloud maybe its interfering?
[14:46] <qw[UA]> hello
[14:46] <qw[UA]> help me please
[14:46] <linuxsage> Viola t worked like magic....just mount the fedora / partition
[14:47] <qw[UA]> i would like  to replace the picture on a desktop
[14:47] <shaneo> qw[UA], right click desktop and click change background
[14:47] <qw[UA]> didn't see
[14:48] <shaneo> qw[UA], :) its ok
[14:48] <qw[UA]> i am see
[14:48] <RomeoAva> scannner for Samsung SCX-4100 doesn't work in Ubuntu 11.10
[14:49] <stripey> why if I have installed "restricted extras" would I need to install "Medibuntu" for mp4 codecs?
[14:49] <gRAVIty_> iceroot: got disconnected. Still there?
[14:49] <RomeoAva> scannner for Samsung SCX-4100 doesn't work in Ubuntu 11.10. Tried with bchemnet.com
[14:49] <gRAVIty_> gry: there?
[14:49] <Phoenixz> My ISP cuts off non active SSH connctions after about a minute (yeah, I know), as long as there is some activity, it will keep the connection open.. Does SSH support some kind of heartbeat or something tyhatI could configure to just sent some traffic every.. 10 seconds or so?
[14:50] <shaneo> stripey, restricted extras should install MediBuntu
[14:50] <ikonia> Phoenixz: look at the -keepalive option
[14:50] <gry> shaneo: ok
[14:50] <gry> gRAVIty_: is iceroot still helping you? they seem better at networking than me
[14:50] <stripey> shaneo, how would I check?
[14:50] <gRAVIty_> gry: i got cut off. I dont know if he is stil around.
[14:50] <gry> Phoenixz: that's not the isp afaik, try to use ~/.ssh/config to set a longer timeout
[14:50] <Phoenixz> ikonia: I was looking for heartbeat... thank you!
[14:51] <shaneo> stripey, open synaptinc and type medibuntu and see if its installed
[14:51] <ikonia> Phoenixz: it depends at what your router is tracking as usage, but that works most of the time
[14:51] <kaya> hi
[14:51] <shaneo> *synaptic
[14:51] <stripey> shaneo, thanks mate
[14:51] <kaya> GhostFreeman, hello
[14:51] <Phoenixz> gry: Well, it has to be because this problem has shown up at 3 places, all with same ISP... my laptop at home, no problem.. Here at work, boom, after one minute it cuts off
[14:51] <shaneo> stripey, np
[14:52] <babalabon> I have ubuntu 12.04, is there a way to move the launcher to the lower bottom, rather than the the default left side???  Any help me?
[14:52] <gRAVIty_> gry: he is probably engaged. do u think you can help out?
[14:52] <creature> babalabon: As far as I know, the answer is no.
[14:53] <Phoenixz> KeepAlive yes; ClientAliveInterval 60.. does the trick, thanks ikonia!
[14:53] <RomeoAva> Samsung SCX-4100 Laser Multifunction - The scanner doesn't work in Ubuntu 11.10
[14:53] <RomeoAva> I read and done all from your site. The drivers are installed and configured and they do not appear with sane-find-scanner.
[14:54] <gRAVIty_> babalabon: tried this? http://www.unixmen.com/move-unity-launcher-to-the-bottom-with-unity-bottom-launcher-ppa-ubuntu/
[14:55] <gRAVIty_> anybody good with ethernet?
[14:55] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: just ask your question
[14:56] <babalabon> Thanks gRAVity
[14:56] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2010190
[14:57] <gry> ikonia: ethernet disappears intermittedly, they already posted http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071366/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071283/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071229/
[14:57] <gry> ikonia: for gRAVIty_
[14:57] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: ya problem did not get solved
[14:57] <gry> ikonia: also "route" http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071363/ nslook up output   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071366/
[14:57] <ikonia> let me have a read
[14:57] <gRAVIty_> gry: Thanks :)
[14:58] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: sure will wait
[14:58] <gry> ikonia: (I try to not hilight too much, but they also said it's lenovo x200 tablet)
[14:58] <tuxinator> hi all
[14:58] <ikonia> that looks very much like a duplex issue
[14:59] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: what is a duplex issue?
[14:59] <Shylenol> is their some channel for dhclient
[14:59] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: can you post the output of "ethtool eth0" please in a pastebin for me please.
[14:59] <ikonia> Shylenol: just ask your question
[14:59] <Shylenol> im sorry, ddclient
[14:59] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: on it
[14:59] <brad> hi, trying to access a usb flash drive from ubuntu server but nothing is showing up in fdisk/df - dmesg does show the drive being "attached" though, not really sure where to go from here
[15:00] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: program not installed. will install it and give output
[15:00] <Shylenol> i was here before like 5 minutes ago no one responded at all
[15:00] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: thanks
[15:00] <ikonia> Shylenol: ok
[15:01] <Shylenol> ok syrry it was another nick because i forgot to close the other irssi
[15:01] <tuxinator> hi ubuntu people, 	any idea why there is no db_checkpoint binary in 10.04?
[15:01] <ikonia> tuxinator: not installed it ?
[15:01] <blodgfx> ubuntu support uefi ?
[15:01] <ikonia> blodgfx: yes
[15:01] <Shylenol> i am trying to set up dynamic and with ddclient and its not working so far so i came here for help
[15:01] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: ethtool eth0 output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071417/
[15:02] <Shylenol> dynamic *dns*
[15:02] <tuxinator> ikonia: :D i mean cannot find a package containing it
[15:02] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: ok, that's interesting
[15:02] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: could you re-run it with sudo please.
[15:02] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: on it
[15:04] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: sudo ethtool eth0 output :http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071420/
[15:04] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: wrong pastebin, that's the same output
[15:04] <ninjah> greets all
[15:04] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: oh, wait, you've become root
[15:04] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071420/
[15:05] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: i did beome root. please check
[15:05] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: ok, so this is just a standard wired connection ?
[15:05] <ninjah> anyone using a Pinnacle USB 700 card for editing? i cannot seem to find the drivers.
[15:05] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: ya standard wired connection
[15:05] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: home connection or an office ?
[15:05] <gRAVIty_> ikonia:home
[15:06] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: There was an ACPI error when ethernet does not work.
[15:06] <ninjah> and people over at ubuntustudio channel are all sleeping. so could you help me?
[15:06] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: that's useful to know
[15:07] <shaneo> gry, any luck on the sound issue?
[15:07] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12059970&postcount=15    ACPI error
[15:07] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: post number 12: is when it works fine for the same command
[15:07] <gry> shaneo: I forgot whether it's x86 or amd in your case; I am about to link you to a test page
[15:08] <shaneo> gry, amd and ok thanks
[15:08] <babalabon> Where do I find all the lastest extra  compiz plugins
[15:08] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: I'm wondering if this is simply a power managment bug
[15:08] <babalabon> ???
[15:08] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: based on the apci warnings
[15:08] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: what do you suggest I do?
[15:09] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: tried booting with the noapci or apci=off options ?
[15:09] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: I think it is possible that is case. SInce no one is able to figure out the mistake. It is probably not an ethenret problem.
[15:09] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: (one not both)
[15:09] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: did not.
[15:09] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: worth a try
[15:10] <ninjah> please, help
[15:10] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: should I try now and let you know? can you guide me through it? (will be a problem If ethernet stops working :( when I reboot
[15:10] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: just interupt the grub boot process and append either apci=off or noapci to the boot line
[15:11] <geobila> ??
[15:11] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: how do I do that? :(
[15:11] <sn_joe> I have a question about crontab.  Would anyone like to discuss it in a pm or should I just drop it in here?
[15:11] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: hold shift to get the grub menu, then press "e" to go into edit mode
[15:12] <gry> shaneo: http://www.quirksmode.org/html5/tests/video.html <-- do you hear any sound for this in firefox or in chromium please?
[15:12] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: and then type noacpi and press enter? thats it?
[15:13] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: add it to the end of the boot line
[15:13] <Meridious> ikonia, gRAVIty_ : instead of holding 'e' at the grub menu, consider holding 'a'  This will keep you from accidently a word or char in your grub line
[15:14] <ikonia> I didn't say hold e
[15:14] <ikonia> I said press "e"
[15:14] <Meridious> ikonia: you say potato, i say poTAHto
[15:14] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: If My ethernet does not work. I will pm you on the forums. Hope thats ok
[15:14] <ikonia> Meridious: I say do something, you say I said do something else
[15:14] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: I don't use the gorums
[15:14] <ikonia> forums
[15:14] <glitsj16> sn_joe: cron is pretty common in linux, why not try to get as many views as possible right here in the open .. :)
[15:15] <isabel> my wireless stopped working after a update of ubuntu 12.04
[15:15] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: ok I will then have to use windows and get onto IRC. will do that. thanks
[15:15] <isabel> any thoughts on what i can check?
[15:15] <Meridious> ikonia: if you really wanna argue over the semantics of this, I can humor you on another channel.
[15:15] <geobila> isabel is it ATI, intel or Nvidia?
[15:15] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: rebooting thanks!
[15:16] <geobila> sorry y bad
[15:16] <isabel> geobila: i think its intel how can i check?
[15:16] <shaneo> gry nope
[15:16] <sn_joe> Thanks glitsj16.  The situation is thus: I have two scripts that are accessed through a gateway script given a parameter.  I have  two crons set up to call the gateway script and give it one or the other parameter every 15 minutes.
[15:16] <sn_joe> Both scripts run perfectly on command line
[15:16] <geobila> Isabel did you try the additional drivers again?
[15:17] <sn_joe> However the first cron runs every 15 perfect.  The second one doesn't run at all.  ideas?
[15:17] <gry> shaneo: ok, that's interesting, please stand by
[15:17] <shaneo> gry, ok
[15:18] <shaneo> gry, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/36976460/Screenshot%20from%202012-07-02%2011%3A17%3A39.png
[15:18] <isabel> geobila: looks liked the "Broadcom STA wireless driver" in installed and in use
[15:19] <tuxinator> ikonia: :D i mean cannot find a package containing it
[15:19] <glitsj16> sn_joe: besides possible permission problems .. not much to go on without eyes on the script in question (censored if sensible info is inside)
[15:20] <geobila> Isabel baby steps, have restarted? tried sudo update and upgrade etc ?
[15:20] <isabel> geobila: i suspect the bcm stuff is blacklisted, how do i check that. Yes i restarted it several times now
[15:20] <shaneo> gry i restarted chromium after that screenshot now i see video but no sound
[15:20] <sn_joe> glitsj16: Well, that's the thing.  It can't be a permissions issue because if it can call the gateway script for one call why not the other?
[15:21] <argu> need a bit of help after upgrading to 12.04, apparently I have only visible 2 core on a quad, from lshw -class cpu "cores=4 enabledcores=2 threads=4" (had all 4 cores working  on 10.04)
[15:21] <escott> sn_joe, what is your cron line
[15:21] <glitsj16> sn_joe: the script itself might have commands that need those, can't judge that from here
[15:21] <shaneo> gry, except for h.264/mp4 no video there
[15:21] <kaya> need help on this http://imagebin.org/219196
[15:22] <glitsj16> sn_joe: they both call the 'gateway' script at the same time?
[15:22] <kaya> need help on this http://imagebin.org/219196
[15:22] <shaneo> gry, maybe there is something wrong with my h.264/mp4 codecs ?
[15:23] <sn_joe> */15 0-9,10-21,22-0 * * * /usr/bin/php <somescript> processJob=flushemailqueue
[15:23] <shaneo> webm & ogg/theora all have video playback. no sound though
[15:23] <gry> if only I could find a piece of relevant information; this is in no way easy to search
[15:23] <sn_joe> */15 0-9,10-21,22-0 * * * /usr/bin/php <somescript> processJob=pullamazonorders
[15:23] <gry> sn_joe: ?
[15:23] <Halifax> whats good
[15:23] <Halifax> looking for info on using sudo comaans
[15:24] <gry> shaneo: what hardware are you using please?
[15:24] <Halifax> comands
[15:24] <sn_joe> and yes glitsj16 , they try to call at the same time.
[15:24] <ikonia> !sudo | Halifax
[15:24] <shaneo> hda-intel
[15:24] <shaneo> gry, ^
[15:24] <gry> yes, but what machine manufacturer / model ?
[15:24] <shaneo> gry, Intel IbexPeak HDMI
[15:24] <escott> sn_joe, why call php directly instead of using a shebang? in any case as long as <somescript> is a full path that should be fine
[15:25] <gry> shaneo: intel isn't a laptop manufacturer is it ?
[15:25] <sn_joe> escott: I guess I'm too new to this to know what a shebang is.  Yes, I use the full path.
[15:25] <shaneo> gry, lol sorry its an acer aspire
[15:25] <escott> sn_joe, #!/usr/bin/php on the first line of the php script
[15:26] <Halifax> how do you rebot entire ubuntu system to recognize a different pc. formated the hard drive on a notebook presario. then installed the hard drive on asus veriton m460 , but still says user pc notbook
[15:26] <sn_joe> escott: OK.  What does that do?
[15:26] <gry> ok, let's see if that brings any light to the problem
[15:26] <shaneo> gry, ok
[15:26] <escott> sn_joe, means you dont have to specify the interpreter. when trying to execute a file the kernel looks for a binary image and failing that looks for a shebang and uses that to exec the script
[15:27] <gry> shaneo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Old/AcerAspire5050 No sound unless you turn the "Surround" column up in alsamixer.
[15:27] <gry> shaneo: do you have alsamixer installed?
[15:27] <shaneo> gry, yes i do
[15:27] <compdoc> is there a gui I can install to open network servers in 12.04  ?
[15:27] <sn_joe> escott:  is that an 'either or' or is there an advantage to using shebang?
[15:27] <gry> shaneo: ok, what's up with its surround column right now?
[15:27] <shaneo> gry, there isnt one
[15:27] <Halifax> anyone know how to reboot entire ubuntu eithout flash drive or cd drive
[15:27] <escott> sn_joe, if you specify the interpreter then the shebang will be ignored
[15:28] <ikonia> Halifax: same as with a flash drive or cd drive
[15:28] <shaneo> gry, I have a digital column with nothing in it
[15:28] <ikonia> Halifax: or do you mean actually "boot up"
[15:28] <sn_joe> escott: So basically it just sets a default interpreter.
[15:28] <Halifax> dont know how new user to ubuntu. running cario dock with gnome plus effects
[15:28] <gry> shaneo: aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav <-- do you hear sound when you run that?
[15:28] <escott> sn_joe, yes
[15:29] <ikonia> Halifax: I suggest reading https://help.ubuntu.com it will show you the basics of how to use your ubuntu system
[15:29] <Halifax> ty ikonia.
[15:29] <sn_joe> escott: Well thanks for that.  I'll see about that in the future but right now I just need to figure out why this script doesn't work
[15:29] <shaneo> gry, nope
[15:29] <shaneo> gry, ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[15:29] <shaneo> gry, aplay: main:564: audio open error: Device or resource busy
[15:29] <glitsj16> sn_joe: have you confirmed that both scripts work independently of each other?
[15:30] <escott> sn_joe, when you call it manually are there any important environment variables
[15:30] <kaya> need help on this http://imagebin.org/219196
[15:30] <shaneo> gry, alsamixer layout https://dl.dropbox.com/u/36976460/Screenshot%20from%202012-07-02%2011%3A28%3A36.png
[15:30] <shaneo> gry, also it might help to tell you that my laptop only has one speaker and its on the lefy
[15:30] <shaneo> *left
[15:31] <escott> kaya, either click cancel or report problem
[15:32] <sn_joe> I'm using the zend framework.  The gateway script loads the basic environment and autoloaders and then creates a class called job.  That class switches based on the single parameter jobName and creates a class of the job type.  Those classes implement an interface that includes a simple script that executes some job.  Both objects can be created without issue and both 'start' methods run correctly and independently.
[15:32] <applematt> Good morning everyone!
[15:32] <sn_joe> I have logging in the 'job' to tell me when one gets created.  I'm only seeing the one getting hit
[15:33] <escott> sn_joe, and what does the logging show when the second job is called
[15:33] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: there? I am on windows now :( ethernet has stopped working both with acpi=off and acip=on
[15:33] <sn_joe> The logging never gets hit
[15:33] <gry> shaneo: ok, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071468/ is your problem as I currently see it, I'm trying to find a way to troubleshoot that
[15:34] <shaneo> gry, ok thanks much
[15:34] <escott> sn_joe, does your logging at least show the cron job starts?
[15:34] <sn_joe> escott: No.
[15:35] <sn_joe> escott: It does when I process the mailqueue but not when I try to pull the amazon orders
[15:35] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071472/ still ethernet is not working
[15:35] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: which options did you boot with ?
[15:36] <escott> sn_joe, well without knowing more about the script we can't say if there is something wrong with the cron job statement that you showed above, or if the script is bombing out before logging
[15:36] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: both with on and off. ethernet did not work for both
[15:36] <ilmpc> I have an ubuntu server install on a dead HDD, but the data is still accessible. If I back up /etc, /var/www, and the list of installed packages, should that be enough to restore it on a new install?
[15:36] <escott> !clone | ilmpc
[15:36] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: now I am on windows 7
[15:36] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: which option did you use
[15:36] <applematt> has anyone had experience with running Ubuntu 10.04 on Xenserver 6.0.2?
[15:36] <sn_joe> And my logic is telling me that the 'job' class can't be to blame or it wouldn't work with processEmailQueue
[15:36] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: i dont follow
[15:37] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: I gave you two specific kernel boot options to try, which ones did you use
[15:37] <ilmpc> escott: the drive is unbootable, so I can't do that. And I'm more interested in the configuration than the package list itself.
[15:37] <escott> sn_joe, ive never found logic to be much help in dealing with bugs
[15:37] <escott> !chroot | ilmpc
[15:37] <gRAVIty_> acpi=off
[15:37] <sn_joe> escott: *sigh*  Indeed.
[15:37] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: acpi=off
[15:37] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: ok, did you try the "noapci" option as I said
[15:38] <ilmpc> escott: if I chroot in, will is use the host system or the chroot's /bin, /sbin, etc? Because most of the coreutils are corrupted
[15:38] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: damn! i think i am trying acpi instead of apci. let me do all these things again and get back to u
[15:38] <escott> ilmpc, chroot's
[15:38] <glitsj16> sn_joe: i'm with escott, might be a race-condition, might be your db (i assume processing amazon orders is done from db) .. this could be a job for some serious php profiling/debugging..
[15:38] <navatwo> ilmpc: if you chroot you are in a fake root.
[15:38] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: I'm about to leave for an hour or so
[15:38] <ilmpc> escott: that poses somewhat of a problem then.
[15:39] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: sure. will report to you after an hour
[15:39] <ninjah> still waiting for help about a HW issue - the Pinnacle 700-USB drivers... anyone?
[15:39] <sn_joe> escott: glitsj16 , Both scripts use the database, yes.
[15:39] <escott> sn_joe, you are running things at the same time so if there is some single resource that needs to be acquired one of the scripts would fail
[15:39] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: if you are ok with any other mode of communication. tha twould be great too. (mail or forum)
[15:40] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: I don't have any other forms of communication
[15:40] <Koby> hey, can anybody help me out with an easy question i have?
[15:40] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: best use the channel then others can help too
[15:40] <sn_joe> escott: glitsj16 , how do I tell the cron to wait one more second before firing? */15 0-9,10-21,22-0 * * *
[15:40] <ikonia> Koby: if you just ask, people will try to help
[15:40] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: Thanks. will do that. apci=off, noapci right ?
[15:40] <glitsj16> sn_joe: best advise i can come up with as it stands is trying to incorporate some time-lag in your logic and in your cron timing both
[15:41] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: hang on
[15:41] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: ok
[15:41] <escott> sn_joe, i would just make a shell script that calls to the two php scripts. that way you guarantee the first finishes before calling the second
[15:41] <escott> sn_joe, a more general concern is what is going to happen when those scripts take 16minutes
[15:41] <angs> I am trying to use the usb dongle in the ad-hoc mode on beagleboard-xm (that runs ubuntu 12.04). I am able to connect to my access point through the dongle. However  I could not use it on the ad-hoc mode. I am using these commands: http://pastebin.com/kTMkgCDx  I wonder if someone can tell me what is wrong with the settings or advise anything to make it work? the doggle is micronext mn-wd 152B that has RTL8188CUS chipset
[15:41] <rymate1234> hai
[15:41] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: it's 39 < gRAVIty_> ikonia: sure. will report to you after an hour
[15:41] <ikonia> 16:3oops
[15:41] <ikonia> sorry
[15:41] <rymate1234> small problem with unity notifications
[15:41] <rymate1234> they ain't working
[15:42] <geekbri> I'm a bit confused.  Do the services in /etc/init.d run AFTER all the upstart services in /etc/init ?
[15:42] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: 39? i dont follow
[15:42] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: it's 'acpi=off'  and 'noapic'
[15:42] <rymate1234> when I recieve a notification, it uses the xfce notifications, not the unity notifications
[15:42] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: they are the two options
[15:42] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: note the differences
[15:42] <sn_joe> the email queue never gets that full and if we start to get that much demand, we'll use a third party to send them.  The amazon orders, I can't go beyond a few minutes on that script before amazon throttles me back./
[15:43] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: sure got that. I didi the acpi=off irght. i just have to try noapic
[15:43] <ikonia> gRAVIty_: go for it
[15:43] <pistolas> i can disabled desktop rigth click menu in gnome?
[15:43] <gry> oh ok, I think the sound folk quit as I was helping too long
[15:43] <escott> sn_joe, famous last words
[15:43] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: thanks :(
[15:43] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: thanks :)(
[15:43] <geobila> pistolas kai gamo ta onomata
[15:43] <Koby> Thanks. I'm running lubuntu Oneiric Ocelot, and on the update manager it is offering an upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04. If I click Upgrade Now, will it change my OS from Lubuntu to Ubuntu?
[15:43] <sn_joe> escott: What do you recommend?
[15:43] <ikonia> Koby: no, it will not
[15:44] <Koby> Thanks a lot, have a wonderful day!
[15:44] <glitsj16> sn_joe: escott had the best idea really, call one script from cron and migrate your logic there, at least that's worth a shot before pulling out your php hairs debugging
[15:44] <escott> sn_joe, you have to incorporate that into your design in some fashion.  best is to have it in the database and you lock the records before you process them. if thats not possible make a shell script. the script should begin with a test to see if a lock file exists, if it doesn't touch the file, then process, then cleanup and delete the file
[15:45] <sn_joe> escott: glitsj16 , Thanks. That will get me moving on this.  I really appreciate your help and expertise.
[15:45] <glitsj16> sn_joe: welcome, and good luck
[15:46] <rymate1234> guys
[15:46] <escott> sn_joe, #!/bin/bash if [ -e /tmp/job_lock_file_whatever ] ; then; echo "file exists"; else touch /tmp/job_lock_file; /usr/bin/php ; /usr/bin/php; rm /tmp/job_lock_file; fi
[15:46] <rymate1234> how do I get unity to use the unity notifications not the xfce notifications
[15:47] <glitsj16> rymate1234: if you don't like xfce's notifier, make sure you remove that and install notify-osd
[15:48] <rymate1234> notify-osd is already the newest version.
[15:49] <glitsj16> rymate1234: i guess xfce will have started xfce4-notifyd before notify-osd, resulting in the second one not starting
[15:49] <shaneo> gry, i performed this tutorial yesterday could it have affected me http://www.stchman.com/alsa_update.html
[15:50] <geobila> uninstall xfce4-notifyd
[15:50] <glitsj16> rymate1234: sudo apt-get purge xfce4-notifyd
[15:50] <geobila> even better
[15:50] <burg> hello. for some reason my ubuntu server can`t solve dns anymore
[15:51] <burg> other computers from the same network don`t have this problem
[15:51] <rymate1234> kk removed
[15:51] <rymate1234> how to start notify-osd
[15:52] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: noapic says Error: command not found
[15:52] <Gentoorax> burg: can you still ping other machines?
[15:52] <gRAVIty_> ikonia: in case you are aorund
[15:52] <geobila> gravity_ : not noapic but noapci
[15:52] <glitsj16> rymate1234: /usr/lib/notify-osd/notify-osd &
[15:53] <burg> Gentoorax, only if i type the ip directly
[15:53] <Gentoorax> burg: OK, compare your /etc/resolv.conf
[15:53] <rymate1234> done
[15:53] <glitsj16> rymate1234: test with 'notify-send "foo" "bar" (or something you already have)
[15:53] <gRAVIty_> geobila:: thanks
[15:53] <Gentoorax> burg: with on of the working machines
[15:54] <Gentoorax> burg: it should specify the nameserver
[15:54] <rymate1234> works! thx
[15:54] <glitsj16> :) np
[15:54] <geobila> gravity_: my bad, it is NOAPIC
[15:54] <Gentoorax> burg: if your not using any special nameserver, just try and stick the line nameserver 8.8.8.8 in the /etc/resolv.conf file
[15:54] <geobila> sorry mate
[15:54] <ilmpc> !lvm
[15:54] <Gentoorax> burg: it should work instantly once saved
[15:55] <burg> Gentoorax, it is using: nameserver 192.168.0.1
[15:55] <ClientAlive> by chance has anyone used arandr with lubuntu before? There's something I'm not doing right and it keeps going back to a previous setting every time I reboot.
[15:55] <Gentoorax> burg: that looks like your router or gateway, which is not correct for a nameserver usually, try 8.8.8.8 which is the google dns server
[15:55] <burg> Gentoorax, it works now, thank you
[15:56] <Gentoorax> burg: no problem.
[15:56] <apple314> Hy guys, I might be off topic. But there still might me a kind soul so here goes... I'm trying to make a bash script, that will take a picture if login is bad. Tried to grep FAILED from /var/log/auth.log, and it seems to work but only when I'm logged in and the script has started... I can't get it to work at first login screen. Also tried to fiddle with pam modules but got nowhere fast. If anyone cou;d point me in the right direction I w
[15:56] <apple314> ould gratlly appreciate it. Thanks in advance
[15:57] <blurry> what is mysql-client for
[15:57] <bazhang> apple314, try #bash
[15:57] <Gentoorax> burg: You might want to check it sticks around after a reboot, ubuntu has tools these days which can automatically overwrite this file. I think there is a connection manager application manager somewhere that you can set this in, if it doesn't survive the reboot.
[15:58] <igor__> i cant change partition size in gparted
[15:58] <burg> Gentoorax, do you know its name?
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> igor__  is the parttion unmounted?
[15:58] <igor__> yes
[15:58] <isabel> geobila: Thanks the wirelss is working, thanks alot for your help
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> igor__  what happens when you try? are you in a live session?
[15:58] <geobila> isabel cheers
[15:59] <apple314> bazhang: I'm there, but no action...
[15:59] <igor__> i have 3 partitions. xp linux swap and linux. i unmount the xp partition and it gives me no options
[16:00] <Gentoorax> burg: No sorry, I mainly a gentoo guy, we do everything from the console :) if I remmeber correctly though, if you use the gnome desktop right click the connection icon top right and you can set it in there.
[16:00] <igor__> i want to make a nother partition in the xp partition
[16:00] <glitsj16> blurry: it's a client to connect to a mysql server
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> igor__  you mean NTFS partition?
[16:00] <igor__> yes
[16:01] <burg> Gentoorax, i am using ubuntu server, no gui
[16:01] <Gentoorax> burg: Oh, in that case, shouldn't have a problem
[16:01] <iLogical> I am having a very heavy mouse moving on the startup screen, In the one we choose the windows manager, can I change it?
[16:01] <burg> great, thank you
[16:01] <blurry> glitsj16: why so. it can be done by mysql command
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> igor__  not sure what you mean by 'make a partition in the ntfs partition'
[16:02] <chaos_zero> hi
[16:02] <argu> any clues why only 2 cores would be enabled on a quad core system?
[16:02] <igor__> i have 3 partitons. linux, windows xp, and linux. i want to change the size of the xcp partition so i can install windows 7 there.
[16:02] <chaos_zero> and its only with ubuntu not other os
[16:03] <glitsj16> blurry: ? mysql follows a client-server model, i'm not sure i get your issue sorry
[16:03] <igor__> so i have 7 and xp in the ntfs partition
[16:03] <blurry> glitsj16: if i want to use php development with mysql on linux. i only need to install mysql-server ?
[16:04] <kaya> need help on this http://imagebin.org/219196
[16:04] <blodgfx> igor : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GParted
[16:04] <compdoc> kaya, click report problem, and update your system
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> igor__  you must unmount all the other partitions too, i guess, to make place for the ntfs partition
[16:04] <chaos_zero> can anyone tell me now to configure ddclient on ubuntu?
[16:04] <blurry> glitsj16: Existing configuration file (./config.inc.php) is not readable.    this is what i get in windows. using xampp. the config.inc.php is presend in phpmyadmin folder.
[16:05] <glitsj16> blurry: you'll need both, which doesn't mean they both need to reside on the same machine
[16:05] <igor__> so maybe run a live cd?
[16:05] <kaya> compdoc, i  have tried but still repeating the same problem
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> igor__  obviously, that's why i asked if you're in a live session
[16:06] <blurry> glitsj16: php will automaticaly connect to mysql-server . so why do i need mysql-client ?
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> igor__  make sure to backup first
[16:06] <compdoc> kaya, that doesnt say much. any idea which program?
[16:06] <glitsj16> blurry: ask in ##windows .. never used php on windows sorry
[16:06] <igor__> oh. sorry. didnt catch that
[16:06] <OerHeks> chaos_zero, see the wiki > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[16:06] <igor__> is there a tut somewhere for doing backups?
[16:07] <Pici> !backup | igor__
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> igor__  backup first, before you start modifying partitions
[16:07] <glitsj16> blurry: if you install mysql-server it will pull-in the mysql-client as a dependency
[16:08] <glitsj16> blurry: you might be mixing the mysql logic with the packaging of mysql on linux as compared to windows
[16:09] <blurry> glitsj16: ok
[16:09] <blurry> glitsj16:  so to use mysql-server . you have to have mysql-client. even if you doo all by php and phpmyadmin
[16:09] <blurry> ?
[16:10] <y0om4> if a photo computer image is 600x400, you print it using snapfish, then could you scan that printed photograph using a scanner to get a resolution higher than 600x400?
[16:11] <blurry> glitsj16: ok. can you tell me about the phpmyadmin error?
[16:11] <kaya> compdoc, give the command
[16:11] <blurry> glitsj16: Existing configuration file (./config.inc.php) is not readable.    this is what i get in windows. using xampp. the config.inc.php is presend in phpmyadmin folder.
[16:11] <compdoc> kaya, any idea which program is crashing?
[16:11] <glitsj16> blurry: are you running a lamp stack on ubuntu? if not, take a good look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[16:12] <blurry> glitsj16: no that error is in windows
[16:12] <kaya> compdoc, nothing crash but  when i switch on my pc the msg comes on top my window
[16:13] <iLogical> the session loading screen is too have for my pc, I need change it some way
[16:13] <compdoc> kaya, something is crashing. you may have to look through the logs
[16:13] <iLogical> heavy*
[16:13] <isabel> my wireless was not working after a ubuntu update, i got that fixed, now my wired connection is not available?
[16:14] <isabel> any ideas, where i can start to look?
[16:14] <glitsj16> blurry: the way php, mysql and apache (or nginx ..) are inter-related on linux differs quite a bit from windows, really worth a read if you want to run it on linux .. if you pastebin your config and provide the link i'll have a look
[16:14] <srabtnom> hi all, ubuntu stores the pin code of the my sim card in my laptop, i'd like to use it in another os but i forgot but sim card, where is the pin code of a sim card stored in ubuntu ?
[16:15] <gry> shaneo: I'm reading that now
[16:15] <kaya> compdoc, also i log in as guest to my friend's pc and copy  somefiles but as restarting the pc the files  disappear
[16:15] <kaya> how does guest user loose files
[16:15] <kaya> Anyone with ideal
[16:15] <gry> shaneo: can I ask why you did that instead of just updating the alsa software in software center?
[16:16] <kaya> Anyone with idea  of  how does guest user loose files
[16:16] <gry> shaneo: or did you just update it first, it stopped working, and you followed the tutorial only after that?
[16:17] <oCean> blurry: this channel can not help you with issues you have on Windows. Also, the XAMPP stack is not supported here
[16:18] <glitsj16> iLogical: are you using ubuntu 12.04?
[16:18] <isabel> if i run sudo ifconfig eth0 up it tells me there is no such device how do i fix this?
[16:18] <iLogical> glebihan, yes
[16:19] <LABcrab> Hey people!  i'm trying to print on a printer attached to my Time Capsule from Ubuntu, but it's not working.  i tried three different types of drivers too!  How can this be fixed?
[16:20] <glitsj16> iLogical: can you elaborate a bit .. what actually is 'heavy' in the login screen?
[16:20] <iLogical> glebihan, the mouse teletransports sometimes
[16:21] <iLogical> glitsj16,
[16:21] <iLogical> If I move it, it doesn't follows
[16:22] <kaya> Anyone with idea  of  how does guest user loose files
[16:22] <kaya> Anyone with idea  of  how does guest user loose files
[16:22] <blurry> oCean: thanks
[16:22] <glitsj16> iLogical: okay, once you are logged in your mouse/touchpad etc. are working okay without teleportation (feeling star-trekky lol)
[16:22] <iLogical> yes glitsj16
[16:22] <Guest51625> !ping
[16:22] <gRAVIty_> what are noapic and acpi=off suppsed to do?
[16:22] <bbryan> Looking for help. Installed ubuntu alongside windows 7. Apparently the boot loader failed to install. Still loads windows...
[16:24] <hudu> Question: I'm installing 12.04 LTS but I want to use LXDE and Openbox (or maybe Fluxbox).  Do I first run the standard installation and then change the DE and WM after Ubuntu is up and running?  Or is there a guideline for telling it to install initially using this software instead of the default DE/WM?  I have not been able to locate such a guideline with google.
[16:24] <glitsj16> iLogical: please hang on a sec, have to look at some lightdm (which is the name of the login screen setup in ubuntu 12.04 btw) .. few minutes please
[16:24] <paul__> Hi guys
[16:24] <srabtnom> bbryan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:24] <paul__> one question
[16:24] <paul__> I install compiz
[16:24] <bazhang> hudu, lubuntu-desktop package will give you that
[16:24] <gry> shaneo: I lost you
[16:24] <LABcrab> Nobody knows?
[16:25] <paul__> but i cannot remember which option allow me to move one window and when I push over a side automatically fill the half of the screen
[16:25] <bazhang> !purelxde | hudu
[16:25] <iLogical> glitsj16, sure
[16:25] <paul__> somebody know which option was that???
[16:25] <gry> LABcrab: did you try CUPS yet?
[16:25] <gry> !cups
[16:26] <gRAVIty_> gry: help with noapic, acpi=off
[16:26] <hudu> bazhang, ubottu ... thanks much
[16:26] <LABcrab> gry: Yeah, i tried all the CUPS and they're all good for milk, juice or water.
[16:26] <LABcrab> gry: the CUPS driver actually gives me problems.
[16:27] <gry> ok, what hardware / what printer are you using
[16:27] <LABcrab> All the drivers do.
[16:27] <LABcrab> HP CP1215 with AppSocket/JetDIrect via DNS-SD.
[16:28] <LABcrab> It asks me if i have a Duplexer Installed.
[16:28] <bbryan> scrabtnom:  I'll play with that and see what I can get to work. Thanks.
[16:28] <angs> what is a good tool for wireless signal analysis (apart from iwlist)?
[16:29] <LABcrab> gry: ?
[16:29] <glitsj16> iLogical: okay, before going on, perhaps a word on what i'm thinking of .. logic check as you will .. as your mouse and other pointing devices work okay once logged in, i would try to replicate that under lightdm .. can you pastebin the output of 'synclient -l' please?
[16:29] <LABcrab> i either get a red circle with a horizontal line, a blue circle with an i inside, or both.
[16:29] <kaya> Anyone with idea  of  how does guest user loose files
[16:30] <OerHeks> LABcrab, this manual is old, but still valid, i think > you need avahi >>http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1377817
[16:30] <shaneo> gry, idk
[16:31] <iLogical> of course glitsj16
[16:31] <iLogical> synclient -l
[16:31] <iLogical> oops
[16:31] <iLogical> Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?
[16:31] <gry> shaneo: please give details on the steps you followed, did you update alsa using your system software center first and did it work after that, or did you just follow the guide you linked
[16:31] <iLogical> glitsj16,
[16:32] <iLogical> i can use synaptics just fine though
[16:32] <gry> LABcrab: I'm searching
[16:32] <BluesKaj> synaptiks iLogical
[16:32] <Amo> Hello]
[16:32] <shaneo> gry, i just followed the guife
[16:32] <shaneo> *guide
[16:33] <Amo> Any one is Arabian :)
[16:33] <Amo> lOl
[16:33] <kaya> Anyone with idea  of  how does guest user loose files
[16:33] <iLogical> wait
[16:33] <iLogical> synaptic was opened with an error
[16:33] <gry> LABcrab: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1204163 #6
[16:33] <BluesKaj> or synaptic package manager, iLogical , not sure , but neither is synaptics
[16:33] <glitsj16> iLogical: might be confusing synaptics (the package manager) with synclient .. what does 'which synclient' say?
[16:33] <gry> !ar | Amo
[16:33] <gry> err
[16:34] <three18ti> kaya, are the files tight?
[16:34] <Pici> !sa | Amo
[16:34] <iLogical> glitsj16, same thin
[16:34] <gry> thanks Pici
[16:34] <Pici> np
[16:34] <Amo> gry , thx Are you Arbian
[16:34] <chaos_zero> hello again
[16:35] <kaya> three18ti, tell me what to do
[16:35] <gry> shaneo: ok, can you possibly try to open Software Center and install/update alsa from there, setting it to override previous packages and settings and use the defaults?
[16:35] <LABcrab> OerHeks: Doesn't work.
[16:35] <chaos_zero> when using ddclient and use=if it appears to get the ip as a local ip and attempt to report that, how can i fix this
[16:35] <sab0> hi i am using ubuntu 10.04, when trying to update getting this error ......http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071569/, can anyone please tell me how to solve this prob?
[16:35] <iLogical> glitsj16, but at this time I checked that synaptics was closed
[16:35] <kaya> three18ti, cuz  am in need with those files
[16:35] <glitsj16> iLogical: check in the package manager if you have xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed, we'll take it from there
[16:35] <LABcrab> gry: That printer works plugged direct in the computer.
[16:35] <shaneo> gry, ok ill give it a shot
[16:36] <LABcrab> The issue is solely using it *in Ubuntu* *connected to the Time Capsule*.
[16:36] <LABcrab> The reason for the Time Capsule is because computers in the house are away from the Time Capsule and printer.
[16:36] <shaneo> gry, what exactly will I be looking for in sc
[16:36] <iLogical> glebihan, I've just installed it.
[16:37] <iLogical> glitsj16, *
[16:37] <gry> shaneo: I think that might be 'alsa' but not sure
[16:37] <LABcrab> Alsa salsa?  Who picks these names?
[16:37] <shaneo> gry, 204 items match alsa
[16:38] <Amo> anyone speak arabic here ! :D
[16:38] <Amo> lOL
[16:38] <three18ti> !ask | kaya, files can't be loose or tight.  perhaps you meant lose.  try to ask a question:
[16:38] <glitsj16> iLogical: okay, nm the tabbing ;) i'll try to follow .. might need a reboot, but you can try 'synclient -l' now and see if that returns anything
[16:38] <iLogical> same return
[16:38] <iLogical> I wil reboot, brb
[16:38] <gry> Amo: /join #UBUNTU-SA
[16:38] <kaya> Amo: For the Saudi Arabia team : /join #ubuntu-sa : للانظمام الى قناة الفريق السعودي - For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية
[16:39] <glitsj16> iLogical: hold on one sec ..
[16:39] <gry> shaneo: sudo aptitude install alsa-base alsa-utils
[16:40] <sab0> hi i am using ubuntu 10.04, when trying to update getting this error ......http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071569/, can anyone please tell me how to solve this prob?
[16:40] <kaya> three18ti, i have  been copied the files  but as i restarting the pc i dont find them am in need to retrieve them
[16:41] <iLogical> same return after installing and restarting glitsj16
[16:42] <ltstp> hello man
[16:42] <Toph2> sab0,,, just a suggestion.. leave a space on either end of a link when posting it
[16:42] <glitsj16> iLogical: well i tried to add something i forgot but you we're rebooting, no problem ..
[16:42] <shaneo> gry, already installed i did an apt-get --reinstall
[16:42] <iLogical> oh sorry
[16:43] <kaya> three18ti, i have  been copied the files  but as i restarting the pc i dont find them am in need to retrieve them
[16:43] <glitsj16> iLogical: my mistake actually, should of thought to ask you to pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf as well
[16:43] <chaos_zero> hello when i am using ddclient and i have use-if it appears to obtain  local ip address from the router and report that ip to the ddns provider, producing an error
[16:43] <chaos_zero> how do i fix this
[16:44] <sab0> hi i am using ubuntu 10.04, when trying to update getting this error ...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071569/    ...., can anyone please tell me how to solve this prob?
[16:44] <iLogical> glitsj16, this file is empty or doesn't exists
[16:44] <gry> sab0: Hi. How are you trying to update?
[16:44] <fidel> sab0: check your clam ppa
[16:45] <iLogical> /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe
[16:45] <iLogical> I have this other
[16:45] <three18ti> !patience | kaya, I'm trying to help, but cut me some slack here.
[16:45] <sab0> gry, both from terminal and update manager
[16:45] <glitsj16> iLogical: that's quite normal these days .. i'll pastebin something together if you tell me what graphics card you have
[16:45] <three18ti> kaya, how did you install ubuntu?  how did you copy the files?  where did you copy the files?
[16:45] <SecretFire> hey everyone, I just tryed using an install disc for Ubuntu Ultimate edition 3.4, going from Kubuntu 11.04, and it seems to freeze while booting regardless of the choice I make at the boot menu, is it a problem with my hardware?
[16:46] <iLogical> glitsj16, http://pastebin.com/smNwpuvS
[16:46] <LABcrab> No dice?
[16:46] <sab0> fidel, can you please tell me how to check clam ppa, i am novice on linux platform
[16:46] <glitsj16> iLogical: thanks, having a read
[16:46] <iLogical> I have the onboard GPU for the asus m2a-vm mobo
[16:47] <iLogical> ntegrated ATI Radeon X1250-based graphics
[16:47] <iLogical> glitsj16,
[16:47] <fidel> sab0: is the error 100% cryptic for you?
[16:47] <bazhang> SecretFire, ultimate is not supported here
[16:47] <sab0> fidel, yes
[16:47] <glitsj16> iLogical: hmm, fbdev as graphics driver .. i'm the worst with ATI so i guess we'll need to caal upon some help here :) i think you might need to install ATI drivers
[16:48] <fidel> sab0: it says: the signatur of your clam ppa (a source you added most likely manually) is NOT valid
[16:48] <SecretFire> bazhang : where is it supported
[16:48] <bazhang> SecretFire, no idea, use alis to search
[16:48] <sab0> fidel, ok thank you, can you please tell me how can i solve this?
[16:48] <bazhang> !alis | SecretFire
[16:48] <fidel> sab0: at that point you have to either check why the sig is invalid or disable the ppa
[16:48] <iLogical> glitsj16, I had already tried and failed, bu look, I want change this session loader thing, can't do that?
[16:49] <SecretFire> thanks want aware of alis
[16:49] <shaneo> gry, still no luck though
[16:49] <SecretFire> wasn't*
[16:50] <glitsj16> iLogical: you could go for gdm to replace lightdm, but i don't think you'll notice any difference really .. without proper graphics support your machine will struggle
[16:50] <gry> Well, I can't really help you, because you performed a third-party install of alsa. Do NOT follow tutorials which you don't understand. If you still want to put things back to place, you might give #alsa a try. shaneo
[16:50] <lord-bugs> hola
[16:51] <iLogical> ok I will try to install ATI drivers again and say the errors I get, thanks for you help glitsj16
[16:51] <LABcrab> Aw BOO!
[16:51] <lord-bugs> kk
[16:51] <shaneo> gry, ok thanks
[16:52] <gry> Good luck!
[16:52] <shaneo> i appreciate all your assistance thanks
[16:52] <glitsj16> iLogical: ask around here for some guidance on that .. in the mean time i'll put something together but it might resolve itself once ATI is onboard
[16:52] <glitsj16> iLogical: you're welcome
[16:53] <sab0> hi, i was trying to update my ubuntu 10.04 but having this error...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071569/
[16:54] <scateu> quit
[16:54] <qwebirc26150> How do i convert my disk drive to NTFS?
[16:54] <Dr_Willis> qwebirc26150:  keeping existing data?
[16:55] <qwebirc26150> doesnt matter
[16:55] <gry> sab0: Does everything else other than clamav update itself successfully?
[16:55] <iLogical> I am getting this problem when trying to install proprietary drivers for my onboard graphics card and I get this error: http://pastebin.com/GAAFUfC1
[16:55] <angs> I have a usb wifi dongle. how can I find what chipset it has, so that I can install the appropriate linux dirver?
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> qwebirc26150:  if it dosent matter. use a   gparted, delete partions, remnake them, set them to be ntfs, format them
[16:55] <bazhang> angs, lsusb with it plugged in
[16:55] <sab0> gry, i dont know, frankly i am novice user
[16:56] <angs> bazhang: it shows only the name of the brand, lsusb does not show the chipset
[16:56] <gry> sab0: Cound you pastebin 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' output please?
[16:56] <bazhang> angs, there should be code as well
[16:57] <angs> bazhang: right, I found the chipset now, thanks :)
[16:58] <qwebirc26150> @Dr_Willis -- I only have one partition and its not letting me unmount what do i do
[16:59] <StevenXL> Hi everyone. I can't seem to find klibido in the live CD repos. I've made sure to use multiverse as source.
[16:59] <StevenXL> Why can't I find it, and is there a recommended alternative?
[16:59] <kivisto_> does ubuntu use evdev mouse system by default
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> qwebirc26150:  i alwyas use gparted from a live cd.
[17:00] <sab0> gry, sudo apt-get update .... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071613/ ; sudo apt-get upgrade.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071619/
[17:00] <StevenXL> l
[17:00] <gry> Thanks!
[17:02] <iLogical> glitsj16, I remember it now, the guy said my model explicitly didn't have support
[17:02] <glitsj16> iLogical: man that's too bad ..
[17:03] <gry> sab0: Try re-adding Launchpad PPA for Clamav Update Team.
[17:03] <sab0> gry, can you please tell me how can i do that?
[17:03] <iLogical> I just want to choose a session loader than doesn't consumpts so much resources that the mouse starts teleporting
[17:04] <ForSpareParts> Hey, guys. I've been on Precise for a while now -- today, for some reason, my login screen is really, really slow. Everything runs fine once I hit the desktop, but typing in passwords, selecting a username, anything on the login screen takes at least ten seconds or so to register. Any idea why?
[17:05] <glitsj16> iLogical: i need to go to checkout a possible new place to live in 30 min. .. i wouldn't mind helping to look around, but i'm not sure if i'll be back on today .. feel free to pm me if you want to leave e-mail or something i can get back to you .. sorry, at the moment that's the best i can do
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> ForSpareParts:  ive seen where X gets slow if it just sits ther for some time.  restarting the X server some how clears it up and makes it back to normal speeds.
[17:05] <gry> sab0: 'sudo add-apt-repository -r ppa:ubuntu-clamav/ppa && sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-clamav/ppa'
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> ForSpareParts:  is it slow as soon as you boot up? or have you noticed it just being slow if it waits for a user to login for some time
[17:05] <gry> sab0: then sudo apt-get update
[17:06] <iLogical> glitsj16, no problem, good luck
[17:06] <glitsj16> iLogical: thanks, likewise
[17:06] <glitsj16> better shower to make the right impressions lol, bye
[17:06] <ForSpareParts> Dr_Willis, I saw this immediately after logging out. I did a hard reset, and the same thing happened. Logged in and back out, just to check, and again, same thing.
[17:07] <deper29> i'm having trouble trying to set use keys for logging in over ssh. on my client I keep getting permission denied (public key)
[17:07] <dougl> weltall, you around? I am trying to install nvidia drivers after updating to kernel 3.4 can you lend a hand? I am getting permission errors while runninng the script on 295.59 drivers file?
[17:08] <gry> deper29: http://www.linuxproblem.org/art_9.html
[17:08] <gry> deper29: If that does not help, please give more details about the steps you followed and the errors you're getting (including 'ssh -vvv user@host' output)
[17:08] <trism> StevenXL: it was removed for bug 727386 (still used kde3 libs which were removed)
[17:09] <sab0> gry, i am getting this erro " add-apt-repository: error: no such option: -r "
[17:10] <deper29> gry, thanks, I'm going to give this a shot right now
[17:10] <gry> sab0: try replacing -r with --remove
[17:12] <chamomile> WFT is this? grub-install installs a version of grub that uses menu.lst and ignores grub2 commands?
[17:12] <enroxorz> hey guys. so i went back to a 32 bit version of ubuntu and surprisingly i found that half the issues i had are gone. is it safe to say that the bit version isnt up for primetime?
[17:12] <chamomile> ubuntu's wiki says that it comes with grub2
[17:12] <chamomile> why then is it installing a different version with grub-install?
[17:12] <escott> chamomile, you must have grub1 installed
[17:12] <sab0> gry, i am getting same  erro " add-apt-repository: error: no such option: --remove"
[17:13] <chamomile> escott, what is the grub2 package?
[17:13] <escott> chamomile, grub-pc
[17:13] <StevenXL> Hi everyone. I am installing Ubuntu from a live CD, and I'm at the part where I am partitioning my hdd.
[17:13] <chamomile> escott, what is the grub2 package in the repo for?
[17:14] <StevenXL> Is the first partition going to be the Ubuntu partition, or will the second partition be the ubuntu partition?
[17:14] <StevenXL> I want to allocate a large chunk of the HDD to the windows partition and don't know which is which.
[17:14] <gry> sab0: Sigh.. please pastebin 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' thank you.
[17:14] <Arash> how to add codecs to Kazam ?
[17:14] <escott> chamomile, so remove grub, then install grub-pc. not sure why there is also a grub2. there seem to be mulitple packages for dealing with the efi/bios grub2/1 split. a common install is grub-common, grub2-common grub-pc and grub-pc-bin
[17:15] <Arash> how to add codecs to Kazam ?
[17:15] <gry> sab0: Sadly we happen to run different versions of something, so I will guide you through a more manual way.
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> !info kazam
[17:15] <BluesKaj> StevenXL, what does the first partition show as file system , NTFS or ?
[17:15] <escott> StevenXL, will you be installing windows afterwards?
[17:15] <chamomile> escott, ok, installed grub-pc, but now the command "grub" is gone
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> I imagine with kazam you are to convert the videos after you record them
[17:15] <sab0> gry, thank you, i am sending you the pastbin
[17:15] <Necrosporus> There is a banner in the ubuntu software center, which is advertising proprietary software. I have edited /etc/apt/sources.list removing all mentioning of multiverse and restricted. Ubuntu Software center still show me proprietary software. I do not want to use nor install proprietary software, how should I disable it in software center and why is not it disabled by default?
[17:15] <Arash> Thank you Dr_willis
[17:15] <StevenXL> BluesKaj, it doesn't show what the filesystem, only how big each partition will be.
[17:16] <escott> chamomile, you shouldn't be using "grub" you should be using "grub-install" and "update-grub"
[17:16] <StevenXL> escott, no, it is installed now.
[17:16] <BluesKaj> StevenXL, well what's on the drive , first of all
[17:16] <chamomile> escott, ok, I see
[17:16] <chamomile> escott, thanks
[17:16] <escott> StevenXL, then the ntfs partitions are windows partitions
[17:16] <StevenXL> BluesKaj, I have windows 7 install on my drive. I am using ubuntu off a live CD.
[17:17] <escott> StevenXL, usually you would shrink the NTFS from the end and add ubuntu after the NTFS partition
[17:17] <gry> sab0: ok
[17:17] <arash_> how to make a good FLV out of MP4 ?
[17:17] <StevenXL> escott, I understand that but the install tool doesn't tell me any other info except size. I have one drive, it is asking me how much spance I want to allocate to ubuntu by moving a slider around.
[17:17] <escott> StevenXL, i believe so
[17:18] <arash_> dr do you got any suggestions ?
[17:18] <escott> chamomile, double check you have a normal config by running dpkg -l "*grub*"
[17:18] <arash_> !info winff
[17:18] <SolarisBoy> arash_: you can use ffmpeg if you have it available
[17:18] <arash_> I have but have no idea how to use ffmpeg
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> arash_:  ffmpeg, mencoder, arista, or otehr tools..
[17:18] <sab0> gry, paste bin for cat /etc/apt/sources.list.....  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071647/
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> arash_:  winff is a front end to ffmpeg
[17:19] <arash_> arista looks nice
[17:19] <BluesKaj> StevenXL,  choose manual partitioning , it will show what filesystems etc and other info are on the drive
[17:19] <StevenXL> escott, the installer is asking how much of my main hdd i want to allocate to ubuntu. If my drive is 100 gigs, I move a slider around, so that one side will say 20 - 80, 40 - 60, etc.
[17:20] <SolarisBoy> arash_:  ffmpeg -i <input.mpg> -f flv <outputfile.flv>
[17:20] <SolarisBoy> in the simplest form
[17:20] <StevenXL> if I chose 40 - 60 for example, I don't know if 40 is the amount it will allocate to windows or to ubuntu
[17:20] <escott> StevenXL, i'm afraid i've never used it. if you are comfortable with using gparted you could reboot the livecd, and select "try ubuntu" then you can use gparted directly
[17:20] <StevenXL> BluesKaj, the whole hdd right now is ntfs file system
[17:20] <arash_> Thank you solarisboy
[17:21] <StevenXL> escott, yea, I will use gparted.
[17:21] <SolarisBoy> sure arash_
[17:21] <StevenXL> Quick question, how big should my swap partition be?
[17:21] <StevenXL> or do I even need one?
[17:21] <StevenXL> it's been a long time since I installed ubuntu.
[17:21] <escott> StevenXL, the old recommendation was 2xRAM. i still say 2xRAM makes sense, but not everyone agrees
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> if you got 32gb of ram.. :) you most likely wont need 64gb of swap...
[17:22] <SolarisBoy> you would know if you need a lot of swap ..
[17:22] <SolarisBoy> like Dr_Willis said the rule starts to break down eventually =)
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> swap=ram+a little bit more - so you xan use hibernate/suspend if needed.. is the general rule these days
[17:23] <escott> I say if you have 32GB of ram you probably have enough disk that you wouldn't notice losing 64GB to swap :)
[17:23] <StevenXL> looks like i have 6 gb of ram
[17:23] <SolarisBoy> well you'll notice if you actually start using it lol
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> StevenXL:  so 6gb of swap wouldbe a safe amount. perhaps 6.5 or 7 gb.
[17:23] <TiZ> Hi. It takes a long time for the boot splash to appear when I start my computer. I get a blank screen for about 15 seconds after POST, and then the splash appears. Why does it take so long? Can I do anything to fix this?
[17:24] <Snackadoodlepop> Hey guys, I have some Noobish Questions...
[17:25] <escott> TiZ, check dmesg. look at the timestamps (which are in seconds after boot) and see what is taking a long time
[17:25] <BluesKaj> with 6g ram , swap is wasted space
[17:26] <Snackadoodlepop> With a PowerMac G5 could I install applications and have the support that I need with the games I would like to play ie; super meat boy etc
[17:26] <TiZ> escott: I've got a ten second gap in my dmesg: http://pastie.org/4188402
[17:27] <dougl> I recently installed kernel 3.4.0 to try to help with my 12.04 lockup issues and now my nvidia drivers dont work and I have no grub menu - can anyone help me out with any of these items?
[17:28] <shaneo> gry, found this line in the script maybe its where i messed things up http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071657/. Wasnt getting any luck in #alsa so decided to take a look at the script i believe me not changing the line affected the sound in browser?
[17:28] <Snackadoodlepop> Hey dougl give me a sec, what's the card name?
[17:28] <escott> TiZ, you might install bootchart
[17:28] <dougl> Snackadoodlepop, evga gt220
[17:29] <shaneo> gry, my model would be hda correct?
[17:29] <Snackadoodlepop> One second, I think I can help with the Nvidia drivers and the grub boot one moment.
[17:29] <Snackadoodlepop> Nvidia drivers. try these in terminal: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[17:29] <anon_> I have a very noobish question - I'm 100% new to ubuntu (linux). Been using windows since 1998. Took me a month to figure out how to get here. Any links to sites that tell me how to use Ubuntu from a brand new noob standpoint would be much appreciated
[17:29] <TiZ> escott: I can give that a try, but I dunno what it'll tell me.
[17:30] <gry> shaneo: I don't have extensive hardware, kernel modules, or scripting experience. If you're out of luck here, at #alsa, and at ##linux, you will want to ask the question at Ubuntu mailing list or Ubuntu forums for it to get attention of a wide range of people awake at different time of the day.
[17:30] <Miguelito> Hey any multimedia wiz's here :)
[17:30] <wylde> !manual | anon_
[17:30] <escott> TiZ, it will put some png files in /var/bootchart which are helpful. my suspicious is libreadahead just taking longer on your hardware than others
[17:30] <gry> !any | Miguelito
[17:30] <gry> !anybody | Miguelito
[17:30] <sab0> gry, any solution ?
[17:30] <gry> augh
[17:31] <anon_> Thank you very much, wylde & ubottu ;)
[17:31] <TiZ> escott: Okay then. I'll give it a shot.
[17:31] <dougl> Snackadoodlepop, thanks for the help - I have tried all the standard methods for installing nvidia drivers and am giving up as they need a patched kernel to install... PM? I will show you weltall's blog where he explains a fix that does not work for me.
[17:31] <Snackadoodlepop> Dougl: Try Grub customizer for the booting ussyes.
[17:31] <gry> sab0: ah, I missed your reply about the file! I'm looking now.
[17:31] <Snackadoodlepop> issues*
[17:31] <ForSpareParts> anon_, In addition to the manual, http://askubuntu.com/ is pretty good. If you've ever been on StackOverflow, it's like that.
[17:31] <gry> sab0: Add a # before line 48, do apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, please.
[17:32] <anon_> !manual
[17:32] <WeThePeople> what is the command to see if something is running as a daemon?
[17:32] <weltall> dougl, the last drivers from nvidia don't require fixes
[17:32] <anon_> Totally awesome, thanks forspareparts
[17:32] <weltall> all the problem you have are probably related to ubuntu management of such things or the fact they ship aeons old drivers
[17:32] <gry> sab0: Mind this WILL put you into the problem of not getting latest Clamav updates from the PPA, while you'll still be getting the updates from the main repository -- we will re-add the ppa if the update and upgrade are successful.
[17:32] <dougl> weltall, Hey!!! nice to see you - thanks for your blog posts... "the last drivers from nvidia don't require fixes" oh?
[17:33] <escott> WeThePeople, running as a daemon you mean not listening to its parent? or is a service running?
[17:33] <sab0> gry, i already deleted that ppa from my source list
[17:33] <weltall> 302.17 is the last driver
[17:33] <ForSpareParts> anon_, glad to help. I'm very new to this, myself. Working with Ubuntu has been highly rewarding, but also very frustrating at times.
[17:33] <weltall> anything else is old
[17:33] <Miguelito> gry, thanx i only started out like that as I have a few questions so i will toss out the first one
[17:33] <sab0> gry, but still having some erro
[17:33] <gry> sab0: Did you save the file?
[17:33] <StevenXL> escott, what file system should i use for ubuntu?
[17:33] <StevenXL> ext2, 3, or 4?
[17:33] <dougl> weltall, will go to the site and dl 302.17
[17:33] <escott> StevenXL, 4
[17:34] <sab0> gry,  which file gry?...i am really sorry to ask this type of quistion, i am novice in ubuntu
[17:34] <sab0> gry, now having this error " W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com lucid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> "
[17:34] <Miguelito> I have been shown k3b for producing cd's/dvd's but would like to add some pizaz to them like a them where a dvd player will load them like a normal playing dvd
[17:34] <gry> sab0: It's ok. We were editing /etc/apt/sources.list and what we were trying to do is delete line 48 from your paste. ("deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clamav/ppa/ubuntu lucid main")
[17:34] <xangua> !gpgerr | sab0
[17:34] <weltall> be careful that ubuntu doesn't cope well with those
[17:34] <ForSpareParts> anon_, Oh, here's another good one -- look up CompizConfig Settings Manager. It gives you a wealth of neat UI options, and I used it to make my alt-tab a bit more like windows and (more importantly) map my window-resizing to Win Up/Down/Left/Right.
[17:34] <gry> sab0: Or rather, comment it, by adding '#' before it.
[17:35] <weltall> without manual work of maintenance
[17:35] <ForSpareParts> You can get that from the Ubuntu Software Center.
[17:35] <anon_> Hey cool beans, I will go check that out :)
[17:36] <ForSpareParts> anon_, After Win7, I just couldn't live without those snap bindings. Too fucking useful!
[17:36] <ra21vi> Hello guys
[17:36] <dougl> weltall, "be careful that ubuntu doesn't cope well with those" I dont understand?
[17:36] <escott> !language | ForSpareParts
[17:36] <ForSpareParts> escott, Sorry. Noted.
[17:37] <weltall> it will overwrite the glx drivers and each kernel update will require a manual install of the module
[17:37] <anon_> I spent 10 years using Win98, then the last 4 or 5 using WinXP. So I'm not too spoiled, just stuck in a rutt that I need to get out of lol
[17:37] <sab0> ubottu,  can you please tell me how to solve this error...i am really not clear with your solution as i am novice
[17:37] <ra21vi> I need to install Python 2.5 on my newly installed 12.04. Since  Google Appengine old projects require Python 2.5, can anyone suggest me how can i get it.
[17:37] <dougl> weltall, gotcha = thanks :)
[17:38] <anon_> Now if I could just remember how to use IRC ^_^ It's gotta be like riding a bike, right? haha
[17:38] <sab0> xangua, gpgerr whats that?
[17:38] <trism> ra21vi: it supports python 2.7 now: https://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/python/gettingstartedpython27/
[17:38] <ForSpareParts> anon_, Ah. The Win7 keybindings I'm referring to made it so that the Windows key plus the arrows would resize a window to the left or right half of the screen, or maximize it. I had no idea how badly I wanted that feature until I discovered it ; )
[17:39] <trism> ra21vi: otherwise you are generally building it yourself
[17:39] <escott> sab0, it means the software is signed by canonical and has been checked not to be maleware
[17:39] <gry> sab0: sorry, I'll try to go over what happened and help you now
[17:39] <sab0> gry, thank you
[17:39] <Miguelito> anon_, i feel your pain - was heavily into linux 10-12 years ago and then because of a new job forced back into the winblows realm - it will take a little while but i will get back to where i need to be
[17:39] <escott> sab0, the error means that the signature is not recognized so its signed by someone, but we don't trust who that person is
[17:39] <anon_> Hmmm that sounds pretty interesting. May come in handy someday
[17:40] <gry> sab0: As I said before, I think we should just remove a line from sources.list, and then re-add the PPA. The GPG key solution ubottu suggested might be a bit complicated for us this time.
[17:40] <gry> sab0: To start, run 'gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and remove the line 48, it's a line before the last line -- add a # to its beginning, and save the file.
[17:41] <Miguelito> Any recommendations on cd/dvd compilation?
[17:41] <ra21vi> trism: i think there was python2.5 available in repo.
[17:41] <xangua> gry: sab0 or you could just go to Software Center, Edit, Sourcer and remove it from there
[17:41] <anon_> Well thank you all so much for your time and your help, ty ForSpareParts. I'm gonna start reading and becoming Ubuntu savvy ^_^
[17:41] <Num83rGuy> Does network manager create a tun device for VPN connections or can it if requested?
[17:41] <trism> ra21vi: not for a very long time
[17:41] <ForSpareParts> anon_, Word. Good luck.
[17:42] <trism> ra21vi: last release with python2.5 was hardy
[17:43] <trism> ra21vi: well, last supported anyway, it might have been in intrepid too, I forget
[17:43] <sab0> gry, can you please tell me where should i add #?
[17:44] <Cottus> sab0, example : test vs #test
[17:45] <dougl> weltall, you still here? the latest beta drivers did not install either - installer complained about gcc compiler and failed after I ignored the error.
[17:45] <gry> sab0: To the beginning of the line which contains 'clamav' bit -- it's a line which goes before the last line.
[17:45] <gry> sab0: So, it would become "# deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clamav/ppa/ubuntu lucid main".
[17:45] <weltall> you need to install gcc obviously
[17:45] <weltall> and beta is older atm
[17:45] <Pici> !who
[17:46] <sab0> gry, but i already deleted line 48 which contain clamav, so now where should i add a # ?
[17:47] <sab0> gry, sorry for asking again and again
[17:47] <Cottus> nowhere
[17:47] <dougl> weltall, so I actually need 302.17 - I thot it was a typo on 302.07?
[17:48] <weltall> 302.17 are the current stable drivers, there have been no beta since
[17:48] <gry> sab0: not a problem, if you already deleted it, make sure you saved the file
[17:48] <gry> sab0: then run 'sudo apt-get update' and see whether you're getting the error still
[17:48] <Num83rGuy> Does network manager create a tun device for VPN connections or can it if requested?
[17:48] <delac> how do I enable gallium3D drivers? It seems I got only VESA during installation.
[17:49] <sab0> gry, now having this error E: Type 'main' is not known on line 49 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:49] <escott> delac, should be automatic if supported
[17:49] <gry> sab0: ok, nice, please pastebin your current sources.list
[17:49] <Cottus> delac, i think its the xorg-drivers-something
[17:49] <sab0> gry, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071690/
[17:50] <gry> sab0: compare http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071690/ (current) and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071647/ (old)
[17:51] <gry> sab0: I suspect you did some redundant changes
[17:53] <dougl> weltall, "302.17 are the current stable drivers, there have been no beta since" do you have a link for these drivers - my webbrowser does not find them?
[17:53] <sab0> gry, now getting this error, after apt-get update " W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com lucid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> "
[17:53] <weltall> nvnews has all
[17:53] <gry> pastebin current sources.list please
[17:54] <ra21vi> another help I need is to make my Notebook cool. I was not able to use Ubuntu 11.10 on my Dell XPS-15z due to this, and now I see, it still gets hot with one terminal and one browser (chrome)
[17:54] <escott> !info powertop | ra21vi
[17:54] <dougl> weltall, sec - we are not talking about drivers from nvidia? we are talking open source drivers?
[17:54] <weltall> no drivers from nvidia
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> ra21vi: try  12.04 on it? its supposed to fix a lot of power issues
[17:55] <dougl> weltall, no, drivers from nvidia -? or no drivers from nvidia - ?
[17:55] <weltall> first
[17:56] <delac> escott, Cottus :should be supported. and I got xserver-xorg-video-ati. but should I be having xorg.conf? I seems to got one, a very short one, though.
[17:56] <dougl> weltall, so I am looking for drivers 302.17 from nvidia.com? or 302.07?
[17:56] <gry> sab0: pastebin current sources.list please
[17:56] <ra21vi> Dr_Willis: I am using 12.04 now, with clean install (no upgrade).
[17:56] <escott> delac, generally no, you should not have an xorg.conf
[17:57] <ra21vi> how to use the powertop, it shows me tunables, how can I apply that tune.. ?
[17:57] <weltall> 302.17
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> ra21vi:  check the forums and askubuntu for info on your exact laptop. there may be some known tweaks for any known power issues
[17:57] <sab0> gry, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071716/
[17:57] <delac> escott: that is what I thought. I wonder where that came from...
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> !powertop
[17:57] <dougl> weltall, there is no such driver according to nvidia website = got a link to what you are talking about?
[17:57] <weltall> just search nvnews linux
[17:58] <ra21vi> Dr_Willis: I installed powertop. It shows me tunable items. How can I enable them? do you know
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> i dont use powertop. no idea
[17:58] <ra21vi> Dr_Willis: oh. :)
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> i imagine thers some guides on swetting up powertop.
[17:59] <bobo37773> ra21vi: What do you need powertop for? Are you having heat issues or something?
[18:00] <ra21vi> bobo37773: yes
[18:00] <escott> ra21vi, i think its just enter or tab on the tunable. should say at the bottom what key to press to toggle the tunable
[18:00] <gry> 3~3~
[18:00] <bobo37773> ra21vi: Ah. Yeah I have been down this road before. Set up cpu frequency scaling. That will help you more then anything else out there
[18:00] <ra21vi> escott: oh got it.
[18:01] <ra21vi> bobo37773: can you please guide me how.
[18:01] <gry> sab0: Please comment line 40 at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071716/ -- by adding a '#' -- and try running apt-get update one more time
[18:01] <delac> escott: removing it doesnt help. I still only get VESA
[18:01] <gry> sab0: You uncommented that line, but it was commented before, and we didn't want to change it
[18:01] <bobo37773> ra21vi: Let me see what I can find
[18:01] <escott> delac, is your card supported by the gallium3d project
[18:02] <dougl> weltall, k - thanks fo rthe help - my son found them for me... will try now.
[18:02] <bobo37773> ra21vi: First of all what processor do you have?
[18:03] <bobo37773> ra21vi: Also, what kernel are you running?
[18:03] <erider> how do you mount a livecd
[18:03] <delac> escott: if I read rigth, RV730 should be supported
[18:03] <ra21vi> bobo37773: Intel i7-2620M 2.7G
[18:03] <erider> I can't find to iso in the cdrom dir
[18:04] <bobo37773> ra21vi: Can you give me a pastebin or similar of your modules(output of lsmod command)?
[18:04] <escott> erider, why do you want to mount a livecd?
[18:04] <escott> delac, i wouldn't know. you could check xorg.0.log see if it gives any clues
[18:04] <erider> escott: to get files from it
[18:04] <gry> sab0: Still here ?
[18:04] <bobo37773> ra21vi: Install "cpufrequtils". Should be in your repos
[18:04] <escott> erider, then you need to loop mount the casper image
[18:05] <sab0> gry, yes
[18:05] <TimRiker> https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/fprint wants me to go to System -> Preferences -> About Me and setup my fingerprint info. how do I do that on 10.04?
[18:05] <gry> sab0: got my last lines ?
[18:05] <erider> escott: tried that got: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0
[18:05] <escott> erider, what was your mount line?
[18:05] <ra21vi> bobo37773: I installed it
[18:06] <erider>  mount -t squashfs -o loop /media/Ubuntu_LiveCD/casper/filesystem.squashfs /home/erider/livecd/
[18:07] <dougiel> how do I change my gcc from 4.4 to 4.6?
[18:07] <escott> erider, how about taking the -t argument off?
[18:07] <sab0> gry, i put # before line 40, but getting this error " Reading package lists... Done
[18:07] <sab0> W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com lucid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> "
[18:08] <Varikonniemi> unity says this, should i be worried? : (exe:18789): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
[18:08] <Num83rGuy> dougi: I use https://launchpad.net/~shiba89/+archive/nvidia-precise for Nvidia drivers for 12.04
[18:08] <sab0> gry, i put # before line 40, but getting this error " Reading package lists... Done
[18:08] <sab0> W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com lucid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"
[18:08] <gry> sab0: ok, please pastebin your current sources.list :)
[18:09] <bobo37773> ra21vi: It should have installed a daemon. Start it.
[18:09] <graft> hi, i'm thinking about buying a laptop, it has an nvidia geforce gt 640M LE video card - how likely is this to work with ubuntu with no troubles?
[18:09] <sab0> gry, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071731/
[18:09] <erider> escott: nope, it displays mount usages
[18:09] <Num83rGuy> dougl: I use https://launchpad.net/~shiba89/+archive/nvidia-precise for Nvidia drivers for 12.04
[18:09] <escott> erider, mount -o loop .... gives mount usage?
[18:10] <ra21vi> bobo37773: it is started :) still the system is hot as it was :|
[18:10] <erider> escott: did you want me to remove squashfs as well?
[18:10] <TimRiker> er... https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/fprint wants me to go to System -> Preferences -> About Me and setup my fingerprint info. how do I do that on 12.04?
[18:10] <escott> erider, yes. it is considered part of the -t argument
[18:10] <bobo37773> ra21vi: I understand. Now run "cpufreq-info"
[18:10] <gry> sab0: ok
[18:11] <sab0> gry, any solution?
[18:11] <erider> escott: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[18:11] <Hetep> hola, am having a video problem where the nvideo geforce620 is causing a flickering screen. can anybody help por favor?
[18:11] <bobo37773> ra21vi: It should say somethign like: The governor "governorname" may decide which speed to use
[18:12] <erider> escott: what I need to umount first I think
[18:12] <dougiel> Num83rGuy, thanks for the tip?. that can be installed with muon right?
[18:12] <Guest27141> Anyone running linux on their 2012 macbook air?
[18:12] <ra21vi> bobo37773: The governor "ondemand" may decide which speed to use
[18:13] <gry> Guest98613: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071731/ && W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com lucid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[18:13] <Num83rGuy> Does network manager create a tun device for VPN connections or can it if requested?
[18:13] <gry> sab0: Guest98613 will be helping you now (i hope!)
[18:13] <Guest98613> sab0: try: sudo apt-cache clean && sudo apt-get update
[18:13] <bobo37773> ra21vi: Okay cool. If you do "lsmod | grep acpi" what do we get?
[18:14] <erider> escott: nah that is not it
[18:14] <Guest98613> sab0: this forum thread might have the answer you are looking for: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1850930
[18:15] <escott> erider, the CD is actually in the drive correct? its not an issue with trying to mount two things on loop0
[18:15] <bobo37773> ra21vi: Also "lsmod | grep cpufreq"
[18:15] <Guest98613> sab0: and sorry about the first command I gave you - it won't work :(
[18:15] <delac> I have lot of "fglrx" lines in the xorg.0.log, but jockey tells me that fglrx is not installed and System Settings says VESA is enabled. I did try enabling fglrx but it failed. How do I revert back to gallium3d?
[18:15] <mrguser> it will work
[18:16] <mrguser> it will work
[18:16] <mrguser> it will work
[18:16] <mrguser> it will work
[18:16] <FloodBot1> mrguser: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:16] <erider> escott: no it is in the drive because I can cd to it to get in the casper dir
[18:16] <mrguser> k
[18:17] <Hetep> Can anybody help with the flickering screen?
[18:17] <escott> erider, i meant if you had done sudo mount -o loop ubuntu*.iso /media/Ubuntu_LiveCD then the second loop mount should be on loop1 not loop0, but if its a physical disk then the loop is the first loop mount
[18:17] <mrguser> any body there
[18:17] <escott> erider, all i can suggest is that you check the md5sum. the command should work
[18:18]  * mrguser slaps [Derek] around a bit with a large E63-1
[18:18] <erider> escott: it is a physical disk but I can't see the .iso on the disk either
[18:18] <[Derek]> meh
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> mrguser  did you have a support question?
[18:19] <[Derek]> Why7 did he randomly slap me?
[18:19] <erider> escott: I am looking the casper dir
[18:21] <bobo37773> ra21vi: You still there?
[18:21] <Hetep> <-- Is looking for an Ubuntu guru friend
[18:22] <escott> erider, well you dont see the iso on the disk. you could dd it off the disk and make an iso
[18:22] <bobo37773> Hetep: Ubuntu gurus do not have friends. They are loner nomads :p
[18:22] <Hetep> potential issue with video card is frequency is set overly low
[18:22] <dougiel> how do I change my gcc from 4.4 to 4.6?
[18:22] <oCean> bobo37773: please keep the nonsense out of this channel, thanks
[18:22] <Hetep> nomads eh bobo
[18:22] <Hetep> Ocean, forgive
[18:23] <Hetep> though am looking for a person whom can potentially help with a video card discrepancy
[18:23] <ra21vi> bobo37773: yes
[18:23] <FinCrazy> is there like a #social channel on here or someplace for just random chatting?
[18:23] <oCean> FinCrazy: /join #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[18:23] <FinCrazy> thanks oCean
[18:23] <erider> escott: SQUASHFS error: Major/Minor mismatch, older Squashfs 3.0 filesystems are unsupported
[18:23] <bobo37773> ra21vi: Okay cool. So when you ran lsmod before did it give you output from both of those commands
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> FinCrazy  or #defocus
[18:23] <escott> erider, well thats telling
[18:24] <FinCrazy> thanks MonkeyDust
[18:24] <ra21vi> bobo37773: no result in both cases
[18:25] <bobo37773> oCean: That is a big negative. Helping people + nonsense only.
[18:25] <bobo37773> ra21vi: Can you please post your entire lsmod for me somewhere
[18:25] <ra21vi> bobo37773: ok
[18:25] <oCean> bobo37773: help is okay, continue the nonsense and you will find yourself outside of the channel
[18:26] <erider> escott: is there a work around?
[18:26] <ra21vi> bobo37773: here it is - http://pastebin.com/jq5U4GA0
[18:26] <c0deMaster> whats the replacement to /proc/ksyms ?
[18:26] <escott> erider, boot an older kernel presumably
[18:28] <angs> what module do I need to install for DWA-140 (2001:3c15) ?
[18:29] <rinzler> how do I stop the little bongo sound at the login screen?
[18:29] <bobo37773> ra21vi: Please run this command and tell me if you get any errors -> "sudo modprobe acpi-cpufreq"
[18:30] <ra21vi> bobo37773: no error, also no output. It completes silently
[18:31] <bobo37773> ra21vi: That's a good thing. Now run "lsmod | grep acpi"
[18:31] <Galvatron> rinzler: Look in the sound preferences 9roght click on the sound icon i the top panel).
[18:31] <ra21vi> bobo37773: no result
[18:31] <Galvatron> *right
[18:32] <ra21vi> bobo37773: also lsmod | grep cpufreq gives no output
[18:32] <Hetep> does anybody know if display frequency setting would cause a flickering screen?
[18:32] <bobo37773> ra21vi: Well if you loaded that module just now it should show in lsmod
[18:32] <rinzler> Galvatron: it only shows the settings for sound devices...
[18:33] <ra21vi> bobo37773: let me paste that lsmod result again and share with you
[18:34] <ra21vi> bobo37773: http://pastebin.com/G6FqrdeH
[18:34] <dougiel> how do I kill my xserver?
[18:34] <bobo37773> ra21vi: Try this -> "modinfo acpi-cpufreq"
[18:35] <dougiel> from ssh
[18:35] <bobo37773> dougiel: Just kill X
[18:35] <bobo37773> dougiel: Should be that simple
[18:36] <ra21vi> bobo37773: it says ERROR: modinfo: could not find module acpi-cpufreq
[18:36] <erider> escott: I found the iso and mounted it but it doesn
[18:36] <Galvatron> rinzler: There should be somthing with choosing sound themes
[18:36] <bobo37773> dougiel: sudo pkill X or something similar. Would probably be better to just log out of the window manager but whatever.
[18:36] <bobo37773> ra21vi: How about this "modinfo acpi_cpufreq"
[18:36] <escott> erider, your current kernel does not support that version of squashfs. you would have to boot an older kernel
[18:37] <erider> escott: I found the iso and mounted it but it doesn't give me access to a filesystem structure that would be on the image
[18:37] <dougiel> I am ssh into my 12.03
[18:37]  * Guest51625 boring
[18:37] <dougiel> I am ssh into my 12.04 box and need to shut down my x server = hwo do I do this?
[18:37] <fe80_> Hello
[18:38] <Guest51625> hello
[18:38] <Pici> dougiel: sudo service lightdm stop
[18:38] <oCean> Guest51625: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[18:38] <escott> dougiel, sudo shutdown -h now
[18:38] <Guest51625> i find ubuntu theme
[18:38] <escott> dougiel, sorry missed the X. follow Pici
[18:38] <ra21vi> bobo37773: same error
[18:38] <Galvatron> !question | Guest51625  | fe80_
[18:39] <dougiel> Pici, is that for kubuntu too?
[18:39] <Pici> dougiel: for kubuntu, replace lightdm with kdm
[18:39] <bobo37773> ra21vi: hmm. let me look into it a little more. What kernel version are you running?
[18:39] <Galvatron> dougiel: Kubuntu has KDM, nol LightDM
[18:39] <ra21vi> i think this is something weired with Dell. Ubuntu does not yet support XPS-15z model
[18:39] <escott> erider, you are doing everything correctly, but the system you are using is too new and cannot understand that squashfs image
[18:39] <dougiel> thanks
[18:39] <ra21vi> bobo37773: so lets leave it. I will fallback to Windows for my work and wait for 12.10 :)
[18:40] <erider> escott: ok thanks :(
[18:40] <ra21vi> bobo37773: Linux nitefury 3.2.0-26-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 14 17:49:24 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:40] <Hetep> does anybody know at least if a flickering screen would damage a video card?
[18:40] <ra21vi> bobo37773: and thanks a lot for helping me.
[18:40] <bobo37773> ra21vi: Yeah alright. If that's what you want. If you get back into this continue to look into scaling your cpu as this will cool you down the most.
[18:40] <MaryTr> Backtrack help
[18:41] <xangua> !backtrack | MaryTr
[18:41] <bobo37773> ra21vi: Your welcome. Any time. There were a lot of people helping me when I started
[18:41] <Galvatron> ra21vi: It should with no problem - a standard Intel CPU and nVidia GPU - unless there's something fairly new and/or untypical on the board.
[18:41] <MaryTr> thanks
[18:41] <duckxx> Ìû
[18:43] <Hetep> it's weird as well, the desktop environment returned to classic environment without the icons on the side posteri the video card installation
[18:43] <Hetep> have rebooted a few times trying to get the icons on the side back (Gnome 3.0 environment maybe), though without any fortune respectively
[18:44] <Galvatron> Hetep: What card? Have you installed the latest proprietary drivers (form AMD/NV)?
[18:44] <zowsz> which is the commando to copy an file?
[18:44] <FinCrazy> zowsz, cp
[18:44] <Hetep> Galvatron, it is the Geforce GT620 card, & have not installed any drivers yet for lack of knowing
[18:44] <Hetep> am not a newb, just kinda not a guru
[18:44] <FinCrazy> zowsz, in your command line try 'cp --help' and 'man cp'
[18:45] <Galvatron> zowsz: "cp" ("cp -r" for folders/directories).
[18:45] <zowsz> thakns
[18:46] <Galvatron> Hetep: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates && sudo apt-get  update && sudo apt-get upgrade" - it will give you the latest stable drivers from nVidia.
[18:47] <Galvatron> Hetep: Of course you will have to reboot (not just restart X).
[18:48] <bobo37773> Galvatron: Doing  that will upgrade an open source driveer to the closed source one? It will automatically update from nouveau to nvidia?
[18:48] <Hetep> gracias Galvatron
[18:48] <Galvatron> bobo37773: Yup
[18:48] <bobo37773> Galvatron: Interesting.
[18:48] <Hetep> began looking for drivers when you mentioned such & found the same command suggestions
[18:49] <Galvatron> This PPA will also keep you up to date with the latest drivers, since it's updated regularly
[18:50] <Hetep> so not the necessity to do the sudo apt-get install nvidia current command?
[18:50] <RomeoAva> I ned to change the Ubuntu 11.10 with 12.04. Which is the best way: upgrade or reinstall?
[18:51] <Galvatron> Hetep: Only if you already have the nvidia-current package installed
[18:51] <dougiel> Pici, nvidia installer still says x server is running - any suggestions?
[18:53] <nknik1> I have a fresh installation of debian squeeze and I have this error http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6582510
[18:54] <nknik1> I also have raid1 and one partiion as root one as boot and one swap
[18:54] <nknik1> any help ?
[18:55] <GeoGeek> anon: askubuntu.com is good for specific questions you might have...as is this channel.
[18:55] <Marytr> !backtrack
[18:56] <LjL> nknik1: am i missing something? debian squeeze is not ubuntu
[18:56] <dougiel> help my kubuntu 12.04 install has gone viral? what can I do to revover?
[18:56] <nknik1> but ubuntu is debian based thats whjy I am asking here
[18:56] <delac> where are panel shortcut config files stored?
[18:56] <dougiel> I need to killall x servers and install nvidia drivers from ssh - any help would be appreciated.
[18:57] <LjL> nknik1: better yet, ask in #debian, which is even more Debian-based. we only supposed Ubuntu here.
[18:57] <Akro> hello
[18:57] <Akro> hello
[19:00] <Akro> Help
[19:00] <dougiel> change runlevel so x server is not running?
[19:00] <dougiel> how do I change runlevel so x is not running?
[19:00] <Hetep> Galvatron, fairly certain the recent nvidia drivers were not installed
[19:01] <Miguelito> BluesKaj, what next
[19:02] <ShayGuy> Networking on my laptop is kaput. Please help.
[19:03] <dougiel> how do I stop x server from running so I can work thru ssh?
[19:03] <dougiel> to install my nvidia drivers?
[19:03] <Pici> dougiel: what was wrong with the command I gave you?
[19:03] <BluesKaj> Miguelito, open the run command (alt+f2) , gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , then add this line to the bottom if the file and save it , options snd-hda-intel index=0
[19:03] <dougiel> pici does not work
[19:03] <dougiel> Pici, nvidia installer says x is still running
[19:03] <Cottus> dougiel, service lightdm stop
[19:04] <dougiel> lightdm = unknown service
[19:05] <Cottus> gdm
[19:05] <BluesKaj> dougiel, are you on kubuntu , if so , sudo service kdm stop
[19:06] <Miguelito> BluesKaj, i ran that but nothing came up
[19:07] <dougiel> BluesKaj, did that ? and nvidia installer still sees x server running and I see graphic artifacts on my display.
[19:07] <Hetep> Galvatron, help, the display is left of center, though aside from that, perfect!
[19:07] <BluesKaj> Miguelito, ran what ?
[19:08] <Hetep> Galvatron, muchos gracias for your assistance
[19:08] <Miguelito> this gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[19:08] <Galvatron> Hetep: Open the NV panel
[19:09] <Galvatron> Hetep:: Type "gksu nvidia-settings"
[19:09] <BluesKaj> dougiel,  that command has to be run from the TTY , ctl+alt+f1, then stop kdm , the whatever command you were going to do
[19:10] <Galvatron> Hetep:: Either in the terminal, or in the command bar (Alt + F2)
[19:11] <BluesKaj> Miguelito, in the run command box , use alt+f2 , then the path
[19:12] <escott> dougiel, try kdm
[19:12] <nwilson5> is it normal to be having headaches trying to install ubuntu 12.04 with hardware raid/lvm on a uefi system.
[19:12] <BluesKaj> Miguelito, gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , then add this line to the bottom if the file and save it , options snd-hda-intel index=0
[19:12] <escott> nwilson5, yes, yes, yes :)
[19:12] <n1ckn4me09876543> anyone here use conky? I would like to make it not covered up by maximize windows so it behaves just like taskbar, here is a screenshot of what I'm trying to say: http://imagebin.org/219228
[19:13] <Hetep> Galvatron, then what?
[19:13] <kaya> what,nwhich
[19:13] <Galvatron> Hetep: Adjust the settings
[19:13] <escott> nwilson5, taking those one by one (a) make sure its real hardware raid and that your kernel and /boot are accessible outside the raid if possible (b) use the alternate cd (c) install grub-efi and hope for the best
[19:13] <nwilson5> escott: aware of any workarounds/ways of getting grub and graphics working after such an install
[19:14] <Miguelito> BluesKaj, its not opening the editor
[19:14] <nwilson5> hm
[19:14] <escott> nwilson5, none of those should affect graphics though. if your kernel is loading and your / is found then you have no boot-time issues
[19:15] <Galvatron> Hetep: Primarily the resolution and refresh rate. You must use "Save to X configuration file" to save them permanently.
[19:15] <nwilson5> ok
[19:15] <trism> n1ckn4me09876543: set in .conkyrc: own-window-type panel
[19:17] <trism> n1ckn4me09876543: although it will overlap maximized windows, I don't know if you can make it reserve space like a panel would
[19:17] <nwilson5> escott: the alternate install cd being a desktop version of ubuntu with debian installer. Doesn't the server edition provide that by default?
[19:18] <escott> nwilson5, never used the server installer
[19:18] <nwilson5> ok, well it's the same thing i think.
[19:18] <Hetep> Galvatron, how to save them to X configuration file?
[19:18] <Hetep> gracias for your help btw
[19:18] <Hetep> :)
[19:19] <Galvatron> Hetep: There's a button for it, whrere you change the resolution and refresh rate.
[19:19] <ShayGuy> My routing table is empty, the computer can't even LOOK for a router, and "Suspend" doesn't work.
[19:19] <n1ckn4me09876543> trism: thnx for suggestion that just gave me an idea to make a custom panel where conky resides but is transparent.
[19:19] <Hetep> Galvatron, yes, gracias. Just making certain since it gave a "browse" option
[19:20] <Miguelito> BluesKaj, what is gksudo vs sudo?
[19:20] <guntbert> !gksudo | Miguelito
[19:21] <Galvatron> Hetep: You might want to run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" prior to doing any changes in the panel (you must disable X to do it).
[19:21] <Miguelito> guntbert, thanx
[19:21] <BluesKaj> Miguelito,  open a terminal then , sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf ,  then add this line to the bottom if the file , options snd-hda-intel index=0 , then alt +o , enter key , then alt+x to save and exit the file
[19:21] <Enkwi> Anyone knows "mutt" and could help me with config?
[19:22] <Hetep> actually settings are now appropriate. Unless a thing needs to be adjusted for preventative measures, think things are good
[19:22] <Hetep> Gracias Galvatron, you saved the day!
[19:22] <Galvatron> Miguelito: To put it as simply as possible: A graphical app + "sudo" = a high chance of messing the access rights.
[19:23] <Galvatron> Miguelito: Yu might end up with the files in your home directory owned by the root.
[19:23] <escott> nwilson5, if you want to be more specific about what problems you are having we can be more specific about possible solutions
[19:23] <Enkwi> Using mutt I get: “imaps://imap.gmail.com:993” does not exist. Create it?
[19:23] <Enkwi> And if I keep going, I get a smtp URL problem
[19:23] <BluesKaj> guntbert, what's the text editor in unity now , I'm surprissed gksudo gedit didn't work
[19:23] <bonny_> Hey I just steam through playonlinux on ubuntu, but I was wondering how you would install games on steam, and how would i make it work on linux?
[19:24] <dougiel> yeah! 12.04!! runs just like windows 95 with way better eye candy :)
[19:24] <bekks> BluesKaj: "didnt work" means which error message exactly?
[19:24] <nwilson5> escott: I'm not the one dealing with the install now but just started looking up things for a coworker. He'd know more specifically what the problem is. But initially he was able to install but wasn't getting grub, now he's able to get grub but it doesn't go past - not sure where specifically it's stopping
[19:24] <Galvatron> BluesKaj: The text editor haven't been changed since 11.10, so you must have uninstalled it, or so.
[19:25] <bonny_> Hey I just steam through playonlinux on ubuntu, but I was wondering how you would install games on steam, and how would i make it work on linux?
[19:25] <guntbert> BluesKaj: I sometimes use gedit, it works with gksudo - just tried it :)
[19:25] <BluesKaj> bekks, Galvatron , not for me , i use kde , but gksudo didn't open gedit in the run command
[19:25] <i7c> bonny_: it only works with games that run on linux. so not many
[19:26] <bonny_> Can you give me examples of some shooters that might work?
[19:26] <Galvatron> bonny_: I guess it's not a question for this channel
[19:26] <bonny_> Which channel would i ask this question?
[19:27] <Galvatron> BluesKaj: Then use "kdesu kate" ("kdesudo" from the terminal).
[19:27] <toscho> hi
[19:27] <toscho> i want to change my XF86Back and XF86Forward key to Home and Pos1
[19:27] <bonny_> Galvatron: Where would i ask these questions?
[19:27] <Galvatron> BluesKaj:: KDE has neither gksu nor Gedit by defaukt and installing the just makes no sense at all.
[19:27] <Miguelito> BluesKaj, completed the task
[19:28] <BluesKaj> Galvatron, I was trying to help an ubuntu user .
[19:28] <Galvatron> bonny_: It's a <games ---> Wine issue, not really a Ubuntu one, so...
[19:28] <Enkwi> I try to use mutt but I get this: Invalid SMTP URL: “smtp://oliviercarpentier444@smtp.gmail.com:587/”
[19:28] <morphen> hello
[19:28] <bonny_>  So how do i join wine channel?
[19:29] <morphen> someone can help me?
[19:29] <guntbert> bonny: #winehq
[19:29] <fidel> !ask > morphen
[19:29] <vastina> okay... this has to be common... when I try to install a package, I get E: Couldn't find package <package_name>
[19:29] <vastina> anyone willing to help?
[19:29] <trism> vastina: which package?
[19:29] <morphen> I have to found some porn channel
[19:29] <fidel> vastina: what version are you running & what package?
[19:29] <vastina> nmap
[19:30] <guntbert> vastina: either you mistyped or you didn't enable the repository
[19:30] <vastina> very common
[19:30] <vastina> so nothing was mistyped, trust
[19:30] <fidel> vastina: ubuntu version?
[19:30] <guntbert> !info nmap
[19:30] <trism> vastina: pastebin: apt-cache policy nmap;
[19:30] <vastina> i'm running 2.6.32-28
[19:30] <IdleOne> !guidelines > morphen
[19:30] <trism> vastina: make sure you've run: sudo apt-get update; also
[19:30] <vastina> W: Unable to locate package nmap
[19:30] <vastina> trism: done that
[19:31] <trism> vastina: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:31] <toscho> hi
[19:31] <toscho> I want to change my XF86Forward and XF86Back keys to Home and End, but it doesn't work
[19:31] <delac> pidgin cant connect to gtalk with ssl through proxy. it worked fine on Natty. what changed?
[19:31] <Miguelito> BluesKaj, Galvatron the sound audio hardware is still switching back
[19:31] <vastina> deb file:///media/apt/repo binary/
[19:31] <Galvatron> BluesKaj: I get it now. What does typing "gedit" in the terminal return?
[19:31] <vastina> too small for pastebin
[19:31] <trism> vastina: and there is your problem right there
[19:31] <morphen> someone know irc porn channel ? I have to make a joke
[19:32] <vastina> trism: okay, can you give me a pastebin of entries that would work?
[19:32] <IdleOne> morphen: read the guidelines that ubottu messaged you and please stop with the porn stuff.
[19:32] <vastina> please
[19:32]  * vastina is not a ubuntite
[19:32] <morphen> sorry good evening
[19:33] <Galvatron> morphen: No, and we're not the place to get such advice
[19:33] <vastina> trism: that a no?
[19:33] <trism> vastina: what is: lsb_release -a;
[19:33] <trism> vastina: I can but I'd like to know what release you are actually on first
[19:34] <now3d> Hi all. Could anyone help me use get_iplayer and download a bbc programme? my dad was on the torch relay in UK..
[19:34] <vastina> trism: 10.04 lucid
[19:34] <now3d> This is the url:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/playlist/p00syj9l
[19:34] <vastina> thanks... not used to a lot fo the ubuntu conventions
[19:34] <vastina> s/fo/of/
[19:34] <HSarena> Hello guys!! I have ubuntu 11.10 and have 2 NTFS partition before, but now these 2 partition are READ-ONLY, how can I change permissions?????
[19:34] <trism> vastina: if you have a gui available: gksudo software-properties-gtk; will allow you to add the default repos you need, otherwise you will need at least something like:
[19:35] <vastina> trism: no gui, this is on an appliance :)
[19:35] <trism> vastina: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main
[19:35] <now3d> HSarena: You'll need to remount read write
[19:35] <trism> vastina: to get nmap
[19:35] <Dr_willis> HSarena,  if they are not in a 'clean' state  - you should have windows fsck themto verify they are ok.
[19:35] <Dr_willis> HSarena,  then try mounting them again.
[19:36] <Miguelito> BluesKaj, i wish i could remember what i did to get the system to work with my headset the last time i tried it
[19:37] <vastina> trism: same issue
[19:37] <endra> Hey
[19:37] <BluesKaj> Miguelito, so do I :)
[19:37] <trism> vastina: you'd probably want: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates main and deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid-security main as well
[19:37] <vastina> i amended the /etc/apt/sources.list file with deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main
[19:37] <Galvatron> !question | endra
[19:37] <trism> vastina: you need to run: sudo apt-get update; after making changes
[19:37] <escott> HSarena, make sure ntfs-3g is installed
[19:37] <endra> I have a computer a city away that allows guest acccess. Is there a way I can remote into it if I let a roommate login as guest and run some sort of remote desktop/ssh service without giving him the user/root password?
[19:38] <endra> I'll obviously be able to authenticate afterwards
[19:38] <escott> endra, no
[19:38] <BluesKaj> Miguelito, run lsusb in the terminal , see if your usb headset and mic show up as a device
[19:38] <vastina> trism: do i need to send an HUP to the apt-get daemon?
[19:38] <escott> endra, but if he has physical access he already has root. so just give him the password
[19:39] <trism> vastina: pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get update; if you are still having issues (you don't need to do anything else)
[19:39] <Miguelito> BluesKaj, now u know in phonon i get it to test ok - i just cant switch it to stay there
[19:39] <endra> escott: I don't want to give him the password :P there must be a way. What if bash is run through nc? I only need bash access so that I can commit code and pull it here
[19:39] <escott> endra, as a non-priv guest user he cannot start services
[19:40] <Miguelito> BluesKaj, i believe this is it Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0d9f:0004 Powercom Co., Ltd
[19:40] <ShayGuy> I've asked on the Ubuntu Forums and Ask Ubuntu already (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2013987, http://askubuntu.com/questions/158489/total-networking-fail-w-empty-routing-table-after-accidental-12-04-restart), but it didn't do much good. All I got was a suggestion that it might be a power management problem.
[19:41] <vastina> trism: http://pastebin.com/8RS5sWwg
[19:41] <BluesKaj> Miguelito, probly becausew as soon as you disconnect the heaset phonon devices switches back , check the hardware tab in phonon which is pulseaudio and check the output devices there as well
[19:41] <endra> escott: it doesn't have to be a service. I can sudo once I have access
[19:41] <dougiel> how do I uninstall a kernel from ssh?
[19:41] <rhizmoe> daily compiz crash
[19:41] <n1ckn4me09876543> where is the option to make/add "custom panel"  in ubuntu 12.04 unity   (like you do in gnome)
[19:41] <escott> endra, doesn't work that way. how is a guest user supposed to start anything that would allow you to login as anything other than him?
[19:42] <vastina> trism: followed your instructions I believe...
[19:42] <rhizmoe> n1ckn4me09876543: if you're talking about what i assume you are, it no longer exists.
[19:42] <vastina> trism: just need my nmap and some sip testing tools
[19:42] <trism> vastina: did you delete the plain lucid line? (in favor of the lucid-updates one?), you would need both since there is no updated nmap in lucid
[19:42] <Miguelito> BluesKaj, i dont disconnect the headset - thats just it - i switch the hardware and apply it but it just keeps going back to the other hardware
[19:42] <endra> escott: it can run as guest (even just bash will suffice, I just need to commit code) and then I can su into my account
[19:43] <trism> vastina: maybe pastebin the full sources.list
[19:43] <vastina> trism: of course :)
[19:43] <vastina> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates main
[19:43] <vastina> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid-security  main
[19:43] <vastina> that's all
[19:43] <vastina> not worthy of pastebin
[19:43] <FloodBot1> vastina: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:43] <trism> vastina: yeah you need deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main too
[19:43] <vastina> FloodBot1: that wasn't a flood daffy bot, need mroe lines
[19:43] <escott> endra, i guess maybe if you got him to start a userspace ssh daemon and you were to run "su" in that then you could su to yourself, but how can you trust him to give you a real "su" and not a keylogged version. if a friend asked me to do this for him instead of just giving me the password I would boot to single user and change his password just to mess with him
[19:44] <trism> vastina: since there isn't an updated version of nmap in the archive, just the one from the original release
[19:44] <nwilson5> so escott: it loads up to grub but then has a blank screen upon choosing the installation. In grub recovery mode, it errors with: "no suitable mode found." then "Booting However"
[19:44] <escott> !nomodeset | nwilson5
[19:44] <bilbotarra> alguien sabe un comando para saber qué tipo de arquitectura tiene mi portátil? gracias de antemano
[19:44] <endra> escott: because he doesn't know anything about computers lol
[19:45] <delac> seems pidgin tries to use SOCKS proxy instead of HTML when I have told it to use gnome proxy. why? it didn't do that on Natty.
[19:45] <vastina> trism: nmap was just a package I noticed I needed, I'm more interested in sipp tbh. I now see nmap is working though so big thanks
[19:45] <endra> escott: I don't care that he knows my password. I only care that he doesn't get my private id files :P
[19:45] <vastina> trism: no gui as this is an appliance
[19:45] <escott> endra, all the more reason not to be a pain in the ***. just tell him the password, have him do what you need to give you remote access and change it. don't be a ****
[19:46] <escott> endra, otherwise you are on the phone with this guy for an hour trying to instruct him how to properly start a userspace ssh daemon on a non-priv port
[19:46] <vastina> trism: big thanks though, you pushed me much closer to what I want
[19:46] <trism> vastina: I don't see any versions of sipp in the archive
[19:46] <escott> !es | bilbotarra
[19:47] <vastina> trism: hmm, guess I need to install from source eh?
[19:47] <vastina> thought ubuntu was 1 size fits all lol
[19:47] <Miguelito> BluesKaj, arrggghhh just cant get any of my multimedia stuff to work
[19:47] <vastina> trism: what about pcaputils?
[19:47] <bilbotarra> ufff, sorry, ubottu
[19:47] <bilbotarra> sorry, ubottu
[19:47] <trism> vastina: found it, deleted in hardy: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=377925
[19:47] <bilbotarra> I dont remember
[19:48] <BluesKaj> Miguelito, check the hardware tab in phonon which is pulseaudio and check the output devices there as well
[19:48] <bilbotarra> thanks, ubottu
[19:48] <trism> vastina: pcaputils is in universe, so you'd need to take all those deb lines you added to sources.list and add universe at the end after main
[19:49] <vastina> trism: just append 'universe' to the end after main on each line?
[19:49] <trism> vastina: yep
[19:49] <escott> endra, i guess my point is really that you are already at his mercy that he doesnt call over somebody who would know how to leverage physical access into root access. so don't antagonize him by making it obvious that you dont trust him
[19:49] <trism> vastina: depending on what you are doing, you may want to add: restricted multiverse too so you get everything
[19:49] <endra> escott: teamviewer to the rescue. Thanks anyways. 'give him your password' is not a good solution. There are a dozen ways to accomplish this
[19:51] <vastina> trism: much <3 from a linux brother from another mother :p very grateful for your help
[19:51] <trism> vastina: no proble
[19:51] <trism> vastina: +m
[19:51] <guntbert> how can I find out why a particular package was installed (eg I have kate installed and wonder why..)
[19:52] <escott> guntbert, apt-get remove it and see what depends on it
[19:52] <vastina> trism: got the sipp() i needed :D
[19:53] <guntbert> escott: ok, that will do  - but I seem to remember some command with a --why (or --why-not) parameter
[19:53] <endra> escott: nonetheless, I appreciate the help. Thanks a lot!
[19:53] <goddard> I need to share something with the Ubuntu community. .... it is freakin awesome... go download Miro
[19:54] <RomeoAva> Which is the best: to upgrade or to reinstall the ubuntu12.04?
[19:54] <JohnTeddy> My photos are a mess. I want to have them automatically organized and restructured in a nice way. Eliminate duplicates, etc. Is there any software that can do this with Ubuntu?
[19:55] <escott> JohnTeddy, most of the photo viewers support some form of dedup, as for organization every one seems to have a different approach :)
[19:55] <elia> eepc 701 cannot open graphic neither in low mode... ubuntu 12.04 some help ?
[19:55] <arosen> Hey, is there a way to convert gnome to look back like it did in 10.04? I want the window control buttons and all on the right side not the left.
[19:55] <escott> !classic | arosen
[19:55] <escott> !notunity
[19:55] <elia> maybe need reconfigure ?
[19:56] <sda1986> hi all; question, i would love to have the old "gnome-core" gnome without programs for everything, because then i want to choose my own program. do you know where i can find something similar on ubuntu1204?
[19:56] <kurtwp_> RomeoAva: I upgraded but it was not well after the upgrade.  I broke down and reformatted and started with a fresh install of 12.04  - JMO
[19:56] <escott> arosen, as for the window control buttons that can be set with gnome-tweak-tool or through gconf-editor (under metacity)
[19:56] <kurtwp_> RomeoAva: after the fresh install everything working fine - even my dual monitor setup
[19:57] <Duality> hi
[19:57] <Duality> when i start a script over ssh (i log in on my server with ssh and then start it with a & behind it) when i then logout the process stops.. how can i prevend this from happening ?
[19:57] <mazzulone> !list
 that is what I was thinking
[19:58] <escott> Duality, nohup
[19:58] <Duality> nohup?
[19:58] <escott> Duality, man nohup
[19:58] <Duality> ah
[19:59] <ShayGuy> To reiterate: Lenovo B570 laptop's networking down, both wired and wireless, can't suspend computer, might be a connection there.
[19:59] <Duality> you know just giving a name doesn't always help if the one where the answer is for doesn't know what it is :)
[19:59] <kurtwp_> RomeoAva: Just backup your current home directory (don't forget all the .files).  As you add programs back you look to your back up for all the data files and config files
[19:59] <endra> escott: turns out I can't su to my account from guest. setgid operating not permitted
 what about the partitions?
[19:59] <escott> endra, advanced questions get advanced answers :) presumption is you can figure it out from the keyword
[19:59] <kurtwp_> RomeoAva: Are you running two OS on one system
[20:00] <escott> Duality, ^^^ not endra
[20:00] <mazzulone> !list
[20:00] <escott> endra, thats seems reasonable
 hou to backup the programs and so on
 only one
[20:00] <escott> Duality, if you want to run something in the background and get access to it again use screen
[20:01] <mazzulone> !addon
[20:01] <phillijw> escott: or use tmux
[20:01] <kurtwp_> RomeoAva: Well I did not back up any programs I just installed the again as I needed them
[20:01] <endra> escott, any ideas on how I can access my own files from guest account?
[20:02] <escott> endra, unless you made it **4 hopefully you wouldn't be able to
[20:02] <endra> escott: so, being in the machine as guest and knowing user password there is no way to sudo/su into my account/root
[20:03] <escott> endra, i would hope not :)
 the backup home folder, you paste it back on the computer?
 I use Dropbox for important stuff
[20:03] <kurtwp_> RomeoAva: No I copied my home folder to an external USB drive - a big drive
 OK. I use the same
[20:04] <kurtwp_> RomeoAva: Just remember to copy all the .files - the .files hold all you configuration for most of the programs you use
[20:05] <Dr_willis> endra,  you could su to the user. or just login in at the console as the user to access the files.. if for some reason the desktops broken
[20:05] <escott> endra, if you are really determined im sure there is a bug in some program somewhere. and you could find a way to do a privilege escalation attack
 then about partitions? Can I have not do it? Just live all the space for the Ubuntu?
[20:06] <escott> Dr_willis, su is thankfully disabled in a guest account
[20:06] <Dr_willis> endra,  what do you need to do to the files?
[20:06] <endra> Dr_willis: su is disabled. I just need to git push :-/
[20:06] <Dr_willis> endra,  use the console?
[20:06] <endra> Dr_willis: what do you mean the console?
[20:06] <Dr_willis> or try a terminal and ssh into your exiting user, or the login command
[20:07] <Dr_willis> endra,  alt-crtl-f1 through f6 = consoles...
[20:07] <kurtwp_> RomeoAva: For my install I used the whole HD because I only have ubuntu installed - Could not care about adding another OS to the same system
[20:07] <kurtwp_> RomeoAva: It up to you and what you want to use your system for
[20:07] <shaneo> hi guys how could I go abouts purging alsa and re-installing it
[20:07] <endra> Dr_willis: I'm connected through teamviewer so I  do not think I will be able to do that
[20:08] <Dr_willis> endra,  try a terminal and ssh, or login command perhaps.
[20:08] <escott> endra, if you have ssh installed it should be running
[20:08] <Dr_willis> using guest account over teamviewer seems... weird...
[20:08] <endra> escott: you know, disabling su locally is just silly
[20:08] <endra> as guest*
[20:09] <escott> endra, some would say that not wanting to give your roommate who has physical access the password is just silly :)
  I meet different bad situations in Linux like can't use soen webinar conferences, use my Samsung scanner, etc. That is whay I was thinking at a Windoz
[20:09] <endra> escott: if it is to prevent somehow cracking the password, it only says operation not permitted after it authenticates you. Failing to authenticate shows Authentication Failure.
[20:10] <kurtwp_> RomeoAva: yeah I seen question about third party apps not working - however all my thrid party apps work
[20:10] <escott> endra, yeah its not perfect. i would rather they just disable the guest account entirely
[20:10] <Dr_willis> some would say the idea of a guest account is silly. ;)
[20:11] <escott> endra, but if they are going to have a guest account i dont see why it should be able to do anything that requires any kind of priviledges
[20:11] <kurtwp_> RomeoAva: for example my HP Multi printer has not issues, both my logic camera work, dual monitor setup, external drives, CounterPath softphoine
[20:11] <kurtwp_> RomeoAva: all have no issues
[20:12] <mazzulone> !lista
[20:13] <tompurl> Is anyone else having problems with Firefox on Ubuntu today?
[20:13] <endra> escott: yes you are right. I still think the ability to su should be allowed, though.
[20:13] <tompurl> Out of the blue, it is crashing on me every time I try to use it, including in safe mode.
[20:14] <endra> escott: unfortunately, what I think doesn't matter :P
[20:14] <peggys_mouse> hi folks. i have a failed upgrade on my hands. boots to the purple ubuntu screen with the red dots and then goes black. any suggestions?
[20:14] <mazzulone> !lista
[20:14] <escott> !nomodeset | peggys_mouse
[20:15] <XiRoN> hi
[20:15] <peggys_mouse> thanks ubottu, i'll take a look.
[20:15] <peggys_mouse> uh..thanks escott.
[20:16] <fbh> haha i was just about to give a thumbs up for thanking the bot
[20:16] <Dr_willis> endra,  tried opening a terminal and the 'login' command?
[20:16] <XiRoN> I have a super big problem, my dedicated server has received 730GB of traffic since yesterday, clearly I'm being DDoSed can anyone tell me of any tool I can use to check the incoming packets?
[20:16] <endra> Dr_willis: yes. The output was "Cannot possible work without effective root"
[20:17] <Dr_willis> they really got some fancy lockdown on the guest account these days it seems.
[20:17] <fgfdgdf> test
[20:17] <fbh> XiRoN: Try looking at ntop
[20:17] <guntbert> XiRoN: iftop
[20:17] <endra> meh, I'll just give him my password and change it when I get access through teamviewer
[20:17] <SwedeMike> XiRoN: tcpdump might be one. You should probably use -c 100 or something to make sure it stops after a certain amount of packets.
[20:17] <endra> the security I care about isn't the password, once again, it's my (sadly, not passphrased) private key
[20:18] <HSarena> I use ubuntu 11.10 and i have 2 ntfs partition from my past os and i use these in my ubuntu so easy but now these partition are READ-ONLY, so how can i change permission and fix it?????
[20:18] <escott> endra, i wouldn't worry that they guy who doesn't know how to gain root from physical access would even know what a private key is
[20:19] <escott> !info ntfs-3g | HSarena
[20:19] <escott> HSarena, make sure ^^^ is installed
[20:19] <endra> escott: so you'd give your car keys to your neighbour just because they don't know how to drive?
[20:19] <HSarena> escott : ok ;)
[20:20] <shaneo> hi guys should pulsa and alsa be installed at the same time are they not separate sound card drivers?
[20:20] <shaneo> *pulse
[20:20] <escott> endra, no. i would give my car keys to my neighbour who is not a mechanic and wouldn't worry that they are going to steal my cylinder heads
[20:21] <ShayGuy> Been in here for an hour and 20 minutes... I'm kind of out of options.
[20:21] <guntbert> ShayGuy: what is your problem?
[20:21] <escott> endra, and if my neighbor is a mechanic i kinda have to trust that he isn't interested in stealing my cylinder heads whether or not i give him the key
[20:22] <XiRoN> Anyone heard of gtld-servers?
[20:22] <ShayGuy> guntbert: Networking's down, both wired and wireless. Also I can't suspend, which may be related. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2013987 http://askubuntu.com/questions/158489/total-networking-fail-w-empty-routing-table-after-accidental-12-04-restart
[20:22] <escott> shaneo, yes both should be installed. one is the low level driver, the other is a software mixer
[20:22] <shaneo> escott, ok thank you
[20:22] <endra> escott: lol this conversation is going nowhere, but if that's the case then by that same logic you should trust guest access to be able to su/sudo since they are at the machine and can gain root if they really wanted to
[20:23] <guntbert> ShayGuy: your ip config is ok (apart from the routing table)?
[20:23] <escott> endra, having a guest account doesn't necessarily imply physical access. i could password protect the bios and lock it in a cabinet
[20:23] <ShayGuy> guntbert: Think so. I'll go get my laptop.
[20:24] <endra> escott: I suppose so :) thanks again for the help
[20:25] <guntbert> ShayGuy: then just add a default route for now:   sudo ip route add default via <ip-address of your router>
[20:26] <ShayGuy> guntbert: "RTNETLINK answers: No such process"
[20:28] <guntbert> ShayGuy:  maybe you need to tell it the interface as well sudo ip route add default dev <name of your interface>  via <ip-address of your router>
[20:29] <ShayGuy> guntbert: Uh... how do I know what my interface is?
[20:30] <vaga> hi
[20:30] <vaga> est kto jivoy?
[20:30] <peggys_mouse> escott: no luck. i think i'm dealing with an upgrade that failed in the middle.
[20:31] <guntbert> ShayGuy: look at the output of     sudo ip address show, it will list   lo (not of interest) and then one or several others, choose from them or tell us the names
[20:31] <escott> peggys_mouse, boot a livecd, chroot in, and use apt to continue the upgrade/fix it. or just reinstall
[20:31] <peggys_mouse> i was sufing while waiting for the upgrade to complete. I'm not sure exactly where it was in the process.
[20:32] <guntbert> !en | vaga
[20:32] <vaga> boring
[20:32] <vaga> ok
[20:32] <peggys_mouse> escott: thanks. i have 11.10 on a stick. can I use that or do i need 12.04 (which is what I was upgrading to)
[20:32] <ShayGuy> guntbert: Tried both other interfaces. Same error message.
[20:32] <escott> peggys_mouse, either should be fine provided the machine architecture matches
[20:33] <peggys_mouse> escott: thanks again.
[20:33] <DDAZZA> I want to alias a command with an argument e.g. "scp $1 REMOTEIP:/X/Y/Z"  Is this possible or do I have to write a bash script?
[20:33] <escott> DDAZZA, you want a bash function
[20:34] <escott> DDAZZA, http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/functions.html
[20:35] <guntbert> ShayGuy: can you show us the exact command you gave?
[20:35] <shaneo> my alsa mixer is showing three seperate internal sound volumes is that normal
[20:36] <shaneo> if i enable all three and turn them up it makes a loud humming sound
[20:36] <ShayGuy> guntbert: "sudo ip route add default dev eth# via 192.168.1.1" where # was either 0 or 1; like I said, I tried both.
[20:36] <BluesKaj> shaneo, paste it in imagebin so we can have a look
[20:36] <HSarena> escott : thank U ;-)
[20:36] <escott> HSarena, did that fix it
[20:36] <shaneo> BluesKaj, ok 1 sec
[20:36] <shaneo> BluesKaj, http://screencloud.net/v/iMHp
[20:36] <HSarena> escott : Yes, thank you so much ;)
[20:37] <guntbert> ShayGuy: and the ip addresses on eth0 and eth1 are ...?
[20:37] <escott> HSarena, good. for some reason thats not installed on all systems, and the in kernel driver is read-only
[20:37] <shaneo> BluesKaj, i should tell you that all sound works except within any web browser
[20:38] <DDAZZA> escott: Awsome, thank you
[20:38] <ShayGuy> guntbert: Uh, you've lost me. There are things that look like IPv6 addresses, you mean those?
[20:38] <JustAPerson> Hi! I've fucked up my 2 day old 12.04 install, is it possible to reinstall it without burning a CD? i.e. via command line
[20:38] <escott> JustAPerson, watch the languages, and more details please
[20:38] <shaneo> JustAPerson, how so did you mess is up
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> JustAPerson  you could use a pendrive
[20:39] <JustAPerson> MonkeyDust: good idea, forgot that
[20:39] <guntbert> ShayGuy: no, you should have an ipv4 address configured at at least one of them - which one is connected to the network?
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> JustAPerson  asketh and thou shalt be answered
[20:39] <JustAPerson> shaneo: Idk, I installed a few things and now nautilus won't open because of a dynamic lib problem, and a lot of visual problems
[20:40] <shaneo> JustAPerson, way over my head sorry
[20:40] <ShayGuy> guntbert: Huh? I'm not CONNECTED to the network. I'm typing this from another computer.
[20:41] <BluesKaj> shaneo, you need pulseaudio and pavucontrol for webaudio , most likely , as for the internal ctrls , U think those are your HDMI audio , probly not needed unless you have HDMI feeding your TV or audio receiver with HDMI inputs
[20:41] <guntbert> ShayGuy: yyes, of course, but we are talking about the config on your trouble child - one interface will be connected for anything to work
[20:41] <shaneo> BluesKaj, i have pulse audio not sure about pavucontrol 1 sec
[20:42] <ZeloZelos> which cursor is best? http://www.pasteall.org/pic/34191
[20:42] <ShayGuy> guntbert: lo, you mean? I can paste the full output of "sudo ip address show" if you want.
[20:42] <ZeloZelos> err, which backdrop color is bets  http://www.pasteall.org/pic/34191
[20:42] <bekks> ZeloZelos: This isnt a voting channel :)
[20:42] <ZeloZelos> oh, srry, didnt think anyone would mind
[20:43] <erreur-404> ya t il des francais ici ?
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[20:43] <shaneo> BluesKaj, pavucontrol wasnt installed. fingers crossed that it fixes my problem
[20:43] <guntbert> ShayGuy: lo is of no interest here, please use a !pastebin - and show the output of    ip link show    too    (I will not be around much longer, bed is calling)
[20:44] <toscho> hi
[20:44] <sirriffsalot>  Supposing I found two ram cards from somewhere else that seem to fit with another computer... Can it at all damage a computer simply to try and see if they function?
[20:44] <toscho> can anybody help me with an xkb problem?
[20:44] <erdem> burası nere beyler :(
[20:44] <erdem> türk varmı la burda
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> !tr
[20:44] <M1nerals> hey, do you guys know were i can find customized versions of ubuntu ?
[20:44] <escott> sirriffsalot, usually if it fits the slot its ok
[20:44] <shaneo> BluesKaj, still no luck :(
[20:45] <sirriffsalot> escott, and not so usually?
[20:45] <guntbert> sirriffsalot: don't apply force
[20:45] <escott> sirriffsalot, i wouldn't care to speculate on the unusual
[20:45] <BluesKaj> shaneo, it helps direct your audio to the the proper outputs , of course you have to set that up in pulseaudio as well, (phonon audio hardware setup)
[20:45] <JustAPerson> MonkeyDust: I'll try a USB drive, thanks for the suggestion
[20:46] <MissVera> Trying to update grub. Did 'sudo update-grub'  and I got, /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[20:46] <M1nerals> missvera you need to mount the devices first
[20:46] <M1nerals> needed to install grub
[20:46] <faryshta> Is there a way to download a file using RTMP (flash) protocol on Ubuntu?
[20:47] <shaneo> BluesKaj, via pulse audio volume controls?
[20:47] <escott> MissVera, sounds like you are trying to do a chroot reinstall, but havent done the chroot?
[20:47] <MissVera> M1nerals, Sorry, Im new, and don't understand.  I had reformated and installed, and everything went fine. then had issues with 'nomodeset',
[20:47] <MissVera> Had to edit grub config to add in 'nomodeset' then update it, and now it says the not mounted stuff
[20:47] <ShayGuy> guntbert: One moment.
[20:47] <sirriffsalot> But can it at all damage my computer when I power it on?
[20:48] <escott> MissVera, and now what is it that you want to do
[20:48] <MissVera> escott, update grub? And figure out why it thinks it isnt mounted?
[20:48] <escott> sirriffsalot, the answer to "could it" is always going to be yes, but it likely wont
[20:48] <faryshta> How can I install freeciv 2.3.2 on ubuntu?
[20:48] <sirriffsalot> escott, I'll see if it fits at all then! Cheers=9
[20:48] <escott> MissVera, you want to edit /etc/default/grub and remove the nomodeset?
[20:49] <KrisKustomPaint> I need some help getting my wireless networking adapters installed
[20:49] <escott> MissVera, having nomodeset should not prevent you from booting in any way, so if you still aren't booting with nomodeset then you should focus on that
[20:49] <MissVera> escott, no, I needed to add in nomodeset. I was having an issue where after i rebooted, it would get past the post, and the blackscreen with a cursor, so someone pointed me to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 which says to edit it, add nomodeset then update, but i cannot update because of that error
[20:50] <escott> MissVera, ok. so we are adding nomodeset.
[20:50] <Cottus> faryshta, i know a dirty way ..
[20:50] <ShayGuy> guntbert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1071992/
[20:50] <JohnTeddy> escott: What would you use to get rid of dedups and organize photos?
[20:50] <Cottus> faryshta, you'll have to set sources to point to quantal , then install, then remove those sources
[20:50] <escott> MissVera, first a couple questions. do you know what partition number ubuntu was installed to? do you have a separate /boot partition? is your cd the same cd you used to install?
[20:50] <MissVera> escott, lol. I already added it. I Just needed to do 'sudo update-grub'  but, i type it, and it give me that error.     /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)
[20:51] <escott> JohnTeddy, pretty sure shotwell should have that
[20:51] <KrisKustomPaint> I have a dell d620 and a broadcom bcm4311 modem I'm having problems getting to the directory on the c: drive to get the necessary files to install
[20:51] <JohnTeddy> escott: It tells me it didn't import duplicates. Though it didn't delete the duplicates.
[20:51] <JohnTeddy> I don't see where shotwell has this.
[20:51] <escott> MissVera, you still need to chroot
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> KrisKustomPaint  that's wine...
[20:51] <MissVera> escott, when i installed, I let the live usb figure out the partitioning for me. Didnt touch a thing.
[20:51] <KrisKustomPaint> wine?
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> KrisKustomPaint  c: drive, that's windows, so wine?
[20:52] <escott> MissVera, and in nautilus (File manager) have you opened the ubuntu disk (the one that was installed)?
[20:52] <MissVera> escott, Okay. Though, no idea what chroot is. Would you be able to help?
[20:52] <MissVera> escott, no..
[20:52] <escott> MissVera, yep... working up to that. have to get the background information first
[20:52] <KrisKustomPaint> I've never used linux just got it installed yesterday and been trying to get the wireless working for the past 12 hours
[20:52] <guntbert> ShayGuy: both interfaces are down and have no ip address assigned - let me think/read
[20:52] <escott> MissVera, then you likely added the nomodeset to the wrong place (the cd and not the installed system)
[20:53] <delac> I'm using Compiz Expo plugin on Classic desktop with 9 workspaces. For some reason window seems to sometimes change the workspace if I move altogether another window. Any thought what might cause this might?
[20:53] <MissVera> escott, that's entirely possible.
[20:53] <KrisKustomPaint> monkeydust i have no idea what wine is
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> KrisKustomPaint  linux does not use c: d: etc    it uses partition names, /dev/sd.....
[20:53] <escott> MissVera, so go ahead and open the file manager and it should list the ubuntu volume as one of the ones on the left that could be mounted
[20:53] <KrisKustomPaint> I understand that monkeydust
[20:53] <MissVera> escott, also, someone else noticed that my /dev/sda1 is mounted as /target, but, i have no idea what that means either
[20:53] <KrisKustomPaint> but all the same the files i need are on the c: drive
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> !bcm | KrisKustomPaint read this
[20:54] <escott> MissVera, i cant say either
[20:54] <escott> MissVera, can you paste the output of "mount" to us
[20:54] <escott> !paste | MissVera
[20:54] <escott> JohnTeddy, gphoto?
[20:54] <KrisKustomPaint> the problem is getting ubuntu to access the necessary files
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> KrisKustomPaint  do you want use windows files to install wireless in linux?
[20:55] <MissVera> escott, what was the way to post directly from the terminal?   something |pastebin?
[20:55] <BluesKaj> shaneo, you'll find the pavucontrol will show some audio output options , with a sound test for them
[20:55] <escott> JohnTeddy, have some fun with find and sha1sum and sort etc :)
[20:55] <ShayGuy> guntbert: Take as much time as you need.
[20:55] <escott> !pastebinit | MissVera
[20:55] <KrisKustomPaint> I can see the folders in windows, when i start ubuntu i can't get to the folders
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> KrisKustomPaint  you didnt use wubi, did you?
[20:55] <guntbert> ShayGuy: try   sudo ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.135 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
[20:56] <KrisKustomPaint> Monkeydust ...No I did a windows instalation so the installation files are on my c: drive
[20:56] <KrisKustomPaint> yes wubi
[20:56] <MissVera> escott that still doesn make sense to me. I Dont kno thecommand.
[20:56] <guntbert> ShayGuy: the ip address is just a random one
[20:56] <KrisKustomPaint> should i just smash my computer now?
[20:56] <escott> MissVera, "sudo apt-get install pastebinit; mount | pastebinit"
[20:56] <shaneo> BluesKaj, all system sounds are fine its only chromium, firefox, opera, chrome, and iron to name a few. They dont even show up in pavu
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> KrisKustomPaint  no you shouldnt use wubi
[20:56] <KrisKustomPaint> well too late
[20:56] <shaneo> BluesKaj, the only app that shows in is screencloud
[20:56] <KrisKustomPaint> what now
[20:57] <KrisKustomPaint> i had no other options
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> KrisKustomPaint  delete wubi in windows and do a normal installation
[20:57] <KrisKustomPaint> could install for usb, cd, or anyother way
[20:57] <MissVera> escott, i did it yesterday so i already have the app... but the command you're saying is different from what i did last night so its not working. but, here's the one from last night i found http://paste.ubuntu.com/1070712/
[20:57] <ShayGuy> guntbert: No visible response.
[20:58] <KrisKustomPaint> i got this jack up computer and its the only way i could get it to install
[20:58] <escott> MissVera, if this is a livecd and you rebooted everything could have changed
[20:58] <BluesKaj> shaneo, the options for browser audio won't show , pavucontrol is global , you may need to reboot , thewn try the youtube or some such to test the audio portion
[20:58] <guntbert> ShayGuy: good, what does    ip address     say now?
[20:58] <MissVera> escott I have not rebooted.
[20:58] <jellis> Hi. I want to install ubuntu restricted extras on ubuntu studio 12.04 or should I install xubuntu restricted extras now that studio uses xfce?
[20:58] <shaneo> BluesKaj, ok ill reboot and let you know how things go
[20:58] <escott> MissVera, can you rerun the command anyways
[20:58] <MissVera> escott, and, itssupposed to be installed. But its acting like it isnt
[20:59] <KrisKustomPaint> why can't I view the files that are on the windows partition?
[20:59] <KrisKustomPaint> or what ever you want to call it
[20:59] <escott> KrisKustomPaint, from wubi that may not be possible due to the loopback
[20:59] <gcq> hello
[20:59] <KrisKustomPaint> so I'm just stuck with no way of getting files into ubuntu?
[20:59] <MissVera> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072015/
[21:00] <thozethingz> I have a fresh ubuntu 12.04 install with 3 hard drives .. one for the OS ... the other 2 have been setup with a RAID 1 ... when I boot up, .. ubuntu see's the RAID HD's as 2 seperate drives ... using gparted to visually see ... the 2 drives are /dev/sdb & /dev/sdc ... they have an error icon saying "couldn't find valid filesystem superblock" .... I'm using an intel motherboard (DH77EH) with integrated RAID contro
[21:00] <KrisKustomPaint> I can't get the usb working in ubuntu either
[21:00] <escott> MissVera, then edit /target/etc/default/grub and add the nomodeset
[21:00] <Dr_willis> wubi mounts the host window ssytems some where in the /  of the drive.
[21:00] <Dr_willis> check output of the 'mount' command.
[21:01] <gcq> is anybody having problems with upgrades?
[21:01] <escott> MissVera, once that is done run the following commands: "sudo mount --bind /dev /target/dev; sudo mount --bind /proc /target/proc; sudo mount --bind /sys /target/sys; sudo chroot /target; update-grub"
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> KrisKustomPaint  wubi is not a 'real' installation, hence the problems
[21:01] <KrisKustomPaint> dr willis could you be more specific
[21:01] <Fishscene> I have a script on my desktop. Currently, when I open it, I get an option to run in terminal or display. I would like it to automatically run in terminal and NOT give me this message. Is there a way to do that?
[21:01] <KrisKustomPaint> not real how?
[21:01] <KrisKustomPaint> seems real
[21:01] <ShayGuy> guntbert: eth1 has a line that says "inet 192.168.1.125/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth1" and an inet6 line resembling eth0's.
[21:01] <gcq> is anybody having problems with upgrades?
[21:01] <escott> thozethingz, fakeraid. don't use it. use mdadm
[21:02] <files> hplip is giving me problems.  Google hasn't helped.  I installed Oneiric on a Dell machine last week and hplip is printing fine.  I loaded 12.04 LTS to another Dell machine and hplip cannot setup the printer (same exact printer) .  It sees it, but will not set it up.  Any suggestions?  I tried the hplip site and I tried google but to no avail.
[21:02] <MonkeyDust> KrisKustomPaint  it's an installation *inside* windows, not alongside it
[21:02] <Dr_willis> KrisKustomPaint,  i dont use wubi. all i can say is i rember it Mounting the windows C: some where in /   the output of the mount command should show you where.
[21:02] <Dr_willis> somthing like /host or similer
[21:02] <KrisKustomPaint> so whats the best way to install
[21:02] <escott> MissVera, make sure each of those commands is successful (doesnt give any error) before moving to the next
[21:02] <KrisKustomPaint> and how do i uninstall
[21:03] <MissVera> escott, How do I save it after I've changed it?  :x
[21:03] <guntbert> ShayGuy: good, now try     sudo ip route add default dev  eth1 via  192.168.1.1
[21:03] <faryshta> Cottus, dirty indeed.
[21:03] <gcq> too many people :(
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> KrisKustomPaint  uninstall: delete in windows, for installation tips, type !install
[21:03] <faryshta> Is there a way to download a file using RTMP (flash) protocol on Ubuntu?
[21:03] <escott> MissVera, you will need to edit it as root. so gksudo gedit /target/etc/default/grub
[21:03] <Dr_willis> KrisKustomPaint,  the whole point of wubi is it is removed/added like a windows app. so it has a entry in the add/remove programs settings of windows.
[21:03] <escott> MissVera, replace gedit with another text editor if you like something else
[21:03] <KrisKustomPaint> !install
[21:04] <MissVera> escott, gksudo doesnt work for me. I had to use sudo nano  and im in the editor i jut cant remember the key combo to save i
[21:04] <ShayGuy> guntbert: OK, now what?
[21:04] <KrisKustomPaint> well thats what got me to the wubi install in the first place
[21:04] <guntbert> MissVera: ctrl+x
[21:04] <escott> MissVera, sudo nano is fine ctrl-X should ask you to save
[21:04] <KrisKustomPaint> I couldn't get the usb install to work
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> KrisKustomPaint  ok, so now you know you don't want wubi
[21:04] <Cottus> faryshta, :D
[21:04] <MissVera> escott, then after I Save, dont I need to 'update-grub' ?
[21:05] <escott> MissVera, once that is done run the following commands: "sudo mount --bind /dev /target/dev; sudo mount --bind /proc /target/proc; sudo mount --bind /sys /target/sys; sudo chroot /target; update-grub"
[21:05] <KrisKustomPaint> I don't have a clue, today is the second day I've ever used linux
[21:05] <escott> MissVera, stop between each ";" and verify it worked
[21:05] <escott> MissVera, ie no error message
[21:05] <guntbert> ShayGuy: now the system *should* work for now, try    ping 192.168.1.1,   if that goes ok then ping 8.8.8.8   (use ctrl+c to intrrupt the pings
[21:05] <KrisKustomPaint> i just want something to work
[21:05] <thozethingz> escott ... thanks .. I will investigate that
[21:06] <MissVera> escott, Do i need to do update-grub before your commands?  Since thats what the thread said :x
[21:06] <holden87> hi guys! anyone here from portugal? i'm going there tomorrow and need some info! thanks!
[21:06] <escott> MissVera, no you need to do the bind mounts and chroot in that order
[21:06] <ShayGuy> guntbert: Nope. Just "Destination Host Unreachable."
[21:06] <MissVera> escott, okay, one sec.
[21:07] <guntbert> ShayGuy: then maybe you got the addresses wrong - check from your other computer - please talk to the channel again, I have to leave - Good luck :-)
[21:07] <XiRoN_> how can i unzip and overwrite all?
[21:07] <shaneo> BluesKaj, still no sound in browser :(
[21:08] <Cottus> ~man
[21:08] <Cottus> !man
[21:08] <XiRoN_> how can i unzip and overwrite all?
[21:08] <escott> XiRoN -o
[21:08] <angelixd> so I tried to update to Quantal and failed miserably, and now my nvidia drivers are particularly screwed up. the install scripts are complaining for a lack of the XKit.utils python library. however, the only solution I can find, to reinstall 'xkit-python' isn't possible
[21:08] <Fishscene> When I double-click a script, is there a way to have it execute without prompting me to "Run in terminal" "Display" "Cancel" "Run"?
[21:08] <XiRoN_> thanks escott
[21:08] <Dr_willis> XiRoN,  check the man pages for zip and unzip?
[21:08] <KrisKustomPaint> so.... just smash the computer
[21:08] <escott> XiRoN_, in the future unzip --help
[21:08] <delac> what does "Place windows" plugin do?
[21:08] <angelixd> anyone got any ideas how to deal with this?
[21:08] <guntbert> !quantal | angelixd
[21:09] <ShayGuy> What'd guntbert mean by "check from the other computer"?
[21:09] <shaneo> angelixd, quantal is in alpha 2 stage you shouldnt install it anywhere but a vm
[21:09] <Dr_willis> KrisKustomPaint,  or run the 'mount' command from a terminal and see if wubi has the windows host drive mounted somewhere allready
[21:09] <delac> what does "Place windows"  plugin in Compizconfig do?
[21:09] <Dr_willis> unless you want to work at getting a normal install going.
[21:09] <shaneo> angelixd, if you upgraded you will have to reinstall 12.04
[21:10] <gcq> Hello everyone. I installed the last LTS Ubuntu, and i'm having problems with software instalation since then. First was a PGP key error, and seems that error is fixed now. But now, some dependencies can't install due "0 OK" errors or bad package size. I tried everithing, from app-get -f install to deleting all related files and doing a app-get update but the problem persists. I'm running x64 ubuntu on VirtualBox. Any ideas?
[21:10] <escott> delac, it places windows in particular locations based on rules
[21:10] <KrisKustomPaint> whats a normal install?
[21:10] <Dr_willis> delac,  can put windows when they open. in specific places.. top left, right,  at position 300x300 and so forth
[21:10] <Dr_willis> KrisKustomPaint,  where you boot the cd, or usb and follow the installer... ie: NOT wubi.
[21:10] <angelixd> well, this sucks :-(
[21:10] <BluesKaj> shaneo, but the video plays fine , correct ? Download an flv file from youtube with youtube-dl  , then try it without the browser
[21:11] <KrisKustomPaint> ok
[21:11] <MissVera> escott, I did all of them and didnt get any messages back until the last command
[21:11] <Dr_willis> therea a plugin/extension for firefox to play flash videos in  vlc. :)
[21:11] <escott> MissVera, what did it say?
[21:11] <KrisKustomPaint> I'll try a vew things ill be back thank you
[21:11] <delac> escott, Dr_willis : if I dont have any rules I want to use, it is useless?
[21:11] <gcq> Hello everyone. I installed the last LTS Ubuntu, and i'm having problems with software instalation since then. First was a PGP key error, and seems that error is fixed now. But now, some dependencies can't install due "0 OK" errors or bad package size. I tried everithing, from app-get -f install to deleting all related files and doing a app-get update but the problem persists. I'm running x64 ubuntu on VirtualBox. Any ideas?
[21:12] <escott> MissVera, anything that looked like an error? or just informational? finally you can run "grep nomodeset /boot/grub/grub.cfg" and it should return a number of lines
[21:12] <Dr_willis> delac,  if it does stuff you dont need to do... seems like you dont have a use for it.. its VERY usefull for me.
[21:12] <escott> delac, is a fan on the moon useless?
[21:13] <Dr_willis> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashvideoreplacer/   lets you play flash videos in the browser in vlc, or sends them to vlc outside the browser.
[21:13] <The_Hess> hi, does anyone know if touchegg works for 12.04?
[21:14] <delac> Dr_willis: how do you use it?
[21:14] <MissVera> escott, generating grub.cfg   cat: /boot/grub/video.lst: No such file or directory   then Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-23-generic   then Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin   then done
[21:14] <tomdbike> Hey
[21:14] <escott> MissVera, sounds good
[21:14] <ShayGuy> OK, recap for the channel. My laptop won't connect to the router, and I'm not even sure it can network at all. There may be a power management problem. More details: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2013987 http://askubuntu.com/questions/158489/total-networking-fail-w-empty-routing-table-after-accidental-12-04-restart
[21:15] <MissVera> escott, Okay, and then?
[21:15] <escott> MissVera, then reboot
[21:15] <Dr_willis> delac,  i have specific windows i want set at specific places on my desktop whenever i launch them. with specific options.. File Copy Window = Top Right, always on top
[21:16] <MissVera> escott, :x... Ive been avoiding reboot, because that blackscreen with the blinky cursor just.. makes me sad.
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> The_Hess  it's in the repos, so it should
[21:16] <gcq> Hello everyone. I installed the last LTS Ubuntu today, and i'm having problems with software installation since then. First was a PGP key error, and seems, seems, that error is fixed now. But now, some dependencies can't install due to "0 OK" errors or bad package size. I tried everithing, from app-get -f install to deleting all related files and doing a app-get update but the problem persists. I'm running x64 ubuntu on VirtualBox. Any id
[21:16] <kleewyck> Has anyone seen a problem with xchat and ubuntu 12.04 where there is no scroll bar in the channel window?
[21:17] <escott> kleewyck, must be a bug with your liboverlay-scrollbar
[21:17] <delac> Dr_willis: might be usefull that way. Unfortunately for me it seems to throw the windows around the workspaces if I try to move other windows...
[21:18] <kleewyck> Thanks escott :(
[21:18] <escott> kleewyck, its actually not there, and its not that you just aren't seeing it because you aren't used to the overlay scrollbar?
[21:18] <MissVera> escott, Black screen with a cursor :x
[21:19] <escott> MissVera, so does the boot get to grub?
[21:19] <kleewyck> as I move over the window edges no scroll bar appears.
[21:19] <MissVera> No.  Post, then black screen with a cursor, then nothing.
[21:19] <kleewyck> escott on the user list it does appear.
[21:20] <Cottus> ShayGuy, can you send an ifconfig, ifconfig -a, and open a terminal to run "sudo tailf /var/log/syslog" ?
[21:20] <CIDR> Multiple video cards for multiple monitors IS NOT fun with x
[21:20] <Cottus> CIDR, how did it go?
[21:20] <delac> Dr_willis: on top of that, I seem to get odd flickering when I click any of the windows on the expo mode. Like if the windows were briefly moved to random workspaces and then back to their original places.
[21:20] <CIDR> Well it's fine on my HD7770
[21:20] <CIDR> but if I try to use my onboard graphics card, or another add-in cards it's pointless
[21:21] <CIDR> the ATI drives flip out and then basically just no longer work.  Might as well be using vesa drivers
[21:21] <Cottus> ..
[21:21] <escott> kleewyck, maybe your xchat scrollback buffer is disabled?
[21:21] <gcq> Hello everyone. I installed the last LTS Ubuntu today, and i'm having problems with software installation since then. First was a PGP key error, and seems, seems, that error is fixed now. But now, some dependencies can't install due to "0 OK" errors or bad package size. I tried everithing, from app-get -f install to deleting all related files and doing a app-get update but the problem persists. I'm running x64 ubuntu on VirtualBox. Any id
[21:22] <escott> MissVera, a black screen with a cursor might be more indicative of a boot loader thats not found than a modesetting issue
[21:22] <CIDR> Cottus if I add another screen, or enable xinerama the other screen just stays black, and my 2 exsisting ATI screens are miserably laggy/slow
[21:22] <The_Hess> MonkeyDust: I've had no difficulty getting it, but it just doesn't seem to actually do anything, and the GUI doesn't work/appear anywhere
[21:22] <Cottus> CIDR, did you add Virtual to the Screen section ?
[21:22] <CIDR> Yeah.
[21:22] <CIDR> Virtual 1440 900
[21:22] <Cottus> ok
[21:22] <CIDR> It's identical to my other dell monitor...
[21:22] <escott> MissVera, in which case the questions are "what do you see after POST," "what kind of bios do you have?," and is there anything unusual about your hardware setup?
[21:23] <MissVera> escott, Well, I had found the blackscreen cursor thing had been a normal issue for other people, and that adding nomodeset fixed it, but, apparently not..
[21:23] <CIDR> X log complains about "not enough video memory" for the virtual screen.  So I bumped it down to even something like 640X480, same error
[21:23] <files> gcq, please stop doing that.  You are exhibiting the worst chat room behavior.  Apparently nobody in this room has your answer at this time.  Come back in a few hours or tomorrow ... or try another chat room
[21:23] <Cottus> :O
[21:23] <gcq> files ok :(
[21:23] <susana> hello
[21:24] <ShayGuy> Cottus: Here's ifconfig -a: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072051/
[21:24] <MissVera> escott, Its old. nothing too unusual about that? Um. video is integrated.  And, after post, there is nothing. It is a black screen with a blinking cursor, where i can do nothing. And the Bios question, i dont know how to answer
[21:24] <susana> I'm having trouble with my wifi connection. When I installed Ubuntu it worked, but I rebooted and now it doens't show my wireless networks
[21:24] <Aptar> Is there a way to disable taping on a touchpad?
[21:24] <escott> MissVera, sounds like grub isn't being found. modesetting is less likely to be an issue on older integrated (ie intel?) graphics than modern nvidia/ati hardware
[21:25] <Aptar> Ha, nevermind.  I just found it.
[21:25] <Aptar> :P
[21:25] <MissVera> escott, AMD, and, i installed puppy before this, and it loaded and ran fine, if that tells you anything?
[21:25] <susana> also, my new kernel (after upgrade) doesn't boot
[21:25] <escott> MissVera, i need to head home, but i would think you should try reinstalling grub. basically the same process as before, but this time run "grub-install /dev/sda"
[21:25] <Cottus> ShayGuy, i saw frame error, i don't know  about this stuff , let me see what that is
[21:25] <XiRoN> Is there a way of reinstalling an OS over SSH?
[21:26] <MissVera> escott, same process as before?
[21:26] <CIDR> XiRoN yes
[21:26] <escott> MissVera, the whole bind mount chroot business
[21:26] <XiRoN> CIDR: Where do I go for information on that?
[21:26] <MissVera> escott, I'm a complete noob.
[21:26] <CIDR> XiRoN a couple really.  Some installers support a remote session from the medium, or you can chroot the root
[21:26] <BluesKaj> shaneo, try this , thanks to Dr_willis , https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashvideoreplacer/
[21:26] <Aptar> Now, one more question.  My files for xchat go into a folder /home/user/.xchat2/   Problem is when I try to browse the folders I don't see one .xchat
[21:26] <MissVera> escott, so, reenter every command but with the grub instal thing somewhere?
[21:26] <susana> please help!
[21:26] <escott> MissVera, thats ok. we can walk you through it again. if you want to wait 40minutes ill be home, otherwise ask someone else in the channel for instructions
[21:27] <phillijw> the . means hidden
[21:27] <MissVera> escott, I'll wait. Everyone else ignores me :x
[21:27] <Aptar> phillijw, Ah, How to unhide?
[21:27] <susana> should I reinstall ubuntu_
[21:27] <susana> ?
[21:27] <aethero> What command do I use in xchat to close all query windows?
[21:27] <XiRoN> Can someone define CRUX for me?
[21:27] <aethero> in mirc it's //close -M
[21:27] <bindi> actually, it's just /close -m
[21:28] <phillijw> Aptar: You just need to view hidden files. It's a setting in your software or else you can use "ls -a" with command line
[21:28] <aethero> Ok, but you know what Im asking.
[21:28] <BluesKaj> susana, tell us your situation
[21:29] <susana> BluesKaj, I'm having trouble with my wifi connection. When I installed Ubuntu it worked, but I rebooted and now it doens't show my wireless networks
[21:29] <susana> BluesKaj, also, my new kernel (after upgrade) doesn't boot
[21:29] <WeThePeople> is it possible to remove apps from preferred applications
[21:30] <goddard> anyone know if you can install mediafire express in ubunth through the repos?
[21:30] <Muninx76> Hello, I have a question about security permission and apache. Can someone help me in a side chat?
[21:30] <BluesKaj> susana, have you tried the recovery option on the new kernel , there may be some partial installs which need repair in the recovery kernel.
[21:31] <susana> BluesKaj, ok, let me try that
[21:31] <susana> BluesKaj, what should I do_
[21:31] <susana> ?
[21:31] <susana> I'm new to ubuntu
[21:31] <Cottus> ShayGuy, if you have "sudo tailf /var/log/syslog" can you run in another terminal "dhclient" and show me the difference?
[21:32] <Aptar> phillijw, I'm just not finding the option to view the hidden files, must be overlooking.
[21:33] <BluesKaj> reboot , choose the recovery kernel , and then when the dialog pops up choose the the repair broken packages option there , then reboot again and try the new kernel
[21:33] <ShayGuy> Cottus: dhclient isn't showing ANYTHING.
[21:33] <BluesKaj> susana,^
[21:33] <susana> thanks BluesKaj
[21:33] <Dr_willis> Default Nautilus file manager - Ctrl-H shows/hides .hidden files
[21:33] <Cottus> ShayGuy, /var/log/syslog should show something
[21:34] <phillijw> Aptar: Default Nautilus file manager - Ctrl-H shows/hides .hidden files
[21:35] <ShayGuy> Cottus: Ah, yeah. A bunch of DHCPDISCOVER entries.
[21:35] <Cottus> did it get an ip?
[21:36] <Cottus> i guess not
[21:36] <susana> BluesKaj, ok now I could boot, but still I have no wifi
[21:37] <ShayGuy> Cottus: They're all in the format "dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval #".
[21:37] <Cottus> ok ok
[21:37] <susana> BluesKaj, I checked for additional controllers and there's a broadcom STA driver
[21:37] <susana> BluesKaj, it says it is activated and currently being used
[21:38] <susana> BluesKaj, I added a new user when the wireless stopped working, does this have anything to do with the problem?
[21:38] <Cottus> ShayGuy, i'm reading http://serverfault.com/questions/185331/exact-meaning-of-rx-errors-and-frame-in-ifconfig-output , here it says it might be a bad cable
[21:39] <ShayGuy> Cottus: Oh, now there's a bunch of entries all within one second, starting with "dhclient: No DHCPOFFERS received." One more dhclient one after that, then the rest are avahi-autoipd(eth1)[25402].
[21:40] <KepX> i installed this cursor http://customize.org/xcursors/39405 but then i apply it i got the link pointer as the normal pointer?
[21:40] <Cottus> normal
[21:40] <ShayGuy> Cottus: dhclient also appears to have closed; presumably that's what it's showing.
[21:40] <abhinavmehta> can somebody help me with PLEX-MEDIA-SERVER running on ubuntu here..?
[21:41] <susana> BluesKaj, any ideas?
[21:41] <abhinavmehta> I've simple issue with PMS, its super-slow on my quad-core machine….donno why.
[21:41] <Muninx76> Hello
[21:41] <cb_> Can I tell ubuntu what screen resolution to use when installing? Am getting a Starting load fallback graphics devices [fail] when trying to install 12.04 on esx 3i server
[21:41] <Muninx76> Can anyone help me with a Linux Security question?
[21:42] <susana> can somebody help me with wifi in ubuntu 12.04?
[21:42] <Guest29674> hi
[21:42] <abhinavmehta> Muninx76: ask..?
[21:43] <escott> MissVera, have you booted back to the livecd?
[21:43] <abhinavmehta> susana: whats the problem..?
[21:43] <Guest29674> running ubuntu on my laptop via virtual box, for some reason whenever I make it full screen it becomes very laggy, any help?
[21:43] <susana> :(
[21:43] <susana> please
[21:43] <susana> I need to get to work
[21:44] <Muninx76> If I have a server running apache and a directory has drwxrwxrwx permissions, would people on the web have full access to that folder?
[21:44] <escott> Guest29674, did you install the guest additions
[21:44] <MissVera> escott, no. I was just asking a friend how i was supposed to reinstall grub through the terminal, when i couldnt get to it :P  So. Use the live usb to just run it again. okay, one minute.
[21:44] <peggys_mouse> escott: i tried to install 12.04 by running the live cd and then editing /etc/apt/sources.list and running update/upgrade but the install ran out of space and it looks to me like it is trying to install into the virtual environment. what did I do wrong?
[21:44] <Guest29674> Yes
[21:44] <abhinavmehta> Guest16593: could be coz you haven't installed (if any) GPU-drivers on VirtualBox.
[21:44] <escott> Muninx76, people using http are not like real users.
[21:44] <Guest29674> at least I think so
[21:45] <Guest29674> it didn't go exactly as the instructions I found
[21:45] <Guest29674> how can I check?
[21:45] <escott> peggys_mouse, did you chroot into the installed system
[21:45] <BluesKaj> susana, sorry , was away for a few ...which wifi chip ? and have you checked additional drivers for the driver to make sure it's enabled
[21:45] <peggys_mouse> escott: no. how do i do that?
[21:45] <escott> peggys_mouse, if not im about to explain to MissVera how one does a chroot
[21:45] <escott> :)
[21:45] <peggys_mouse> :)
[21:46] <Muninx76> So, someone using http wouldn't have full access to that directory?  Who would? Should I be concerned that it a folder is permissioned that what?
[21:46] <Muninx76> er, way.
[21:46] <susana> abhinavmehta, my wifi doesn't work. It did during the installation  process
[21:46] <susana> abhinavmehta, now I can't see the available networks
[21:46] <susana> abhinavmehta, I checked the proprietary drivers and it says Broadcom STA
[21:46] <susana> abhinavmehta, but I can't see any networks
[21:46] <susana> abhinavmehta, what can I do?
[21:47] <escott> Muninx76, in general that permission would seem to be a bit too broad, but you would not be concerned that a normal http user would be able to modify it
[21:47] <abhinavmehta> susana: tried ndiswrapper
[21:47] <Muninx76> If there were another script running on the server though, that would most likely be able to do anything in that folder though, right?
[21:47] <ShayGuy> Cottus: So if it is a problem with a cable, any idea what I can do about it?
[21:48] <bekks> For Broadcom, ndiswrapper is the worst solution.
[21:48] <escott> Muninx76, any other user/process on the system could modify the file
[21:48] <Muninx76> Thanks, that's exactly what I needed. You've been a big help!
[21:48] <susana> BluesKaj, Broadcom STA it says
[21:48] <susana> BluesKaj, 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[21:49] <cb_> Munix76 that pressumes that you have all protocols, except for http blocked. If other protocols are allowed then people can get to that folder
[21:49] <MissVera> escott, K, I'm in!
[21:49] <Cottus> ShayGuy, first you need to try another cable to confirm , then ask in ##networking :P
[21:49] <abhinavmehta> Muninx76: correctly said by escott, further try to make chroot-jail for that dir…and your www-root folder will be safe from intruders.
[21:49] <escott> MissVera, peggys_mouse (peggy ill give these for MissVera and trust you can adjust as needed)
[21:49] <abhinavmehta> susana: tried ndiswrapper..?
[21:49] <ShayGuy> Cottus: What, you mean like an Ethernet cable?
[21:50] <abhinavmehta> anyone on PlexMediaServer here..?
[21:50] <escott> MissVera, peggys_mouse start by mounting the installed ubuntu system with "sudo mkdir /media/ubuntu; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/ubuntu"
[21:50] <Cottus> ShayGuy, yes
[21:50] <bekks> susana: You could try following this guide: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38327/how-can-i-get-broadcom-bcm4311-wireless-working
[21:50] <MissVera> escott, will these commands save even though im just going through the live cd and didnt boot into it?
[21:50] <BluesKaj> susana, open a terminal , sudo modprobe b43 , if there is no output then it's loaded
[21:51] <escott> MissVera, peggys_mouse then bind mount the special filesystems. "sudo mount --bind /dev /media/ubuntu/dev; sudo mount --bind /sys /media/ubuntu/sys; sudo mount --bind /proc /media/ubuntu/proc"
[21:51] <bekks> BluesKaj: Which doesnt solve the problem of a possibly missing firmware.
[21:51] <susana> abhinavmehta, nope, should I use a windows controller? but it worked while installing and the first time I used the computer
[21:51] <ShayGuy> Cottus: Well, I didn't have a cable plugged in. That hadn't made a difference before.
[21:51] <bekks> susana: No, you can follow the link I just gave you.
[21:51] <escott> MissVera, the point of this is to access the installed system from the cd. once we run the "chroot" command any changes will be on the real system
[21:51] <BluesKaj> bekks, agreed , feel free to make any suggestions
[21:52] <bekks> BluesKaj: I just did ;)
[21:52] <MissVera> escott, Im running Xubuntu, should I just change ubuntu to xubuntu? :x
[21:52] <escott> MissVera, peggys_mouse, ill hold here until you guys catch up
[21:52] <Cottus> ShayGuy, is it an ethernet card?
[21:52] <susana> BluesKaj, no output
[21:52] <BluesKaj> bekks, to susana as well
[21:52] <escott> MissVera, its just a filename. doesn't matter what it is. just be consistent
[21:52] <susana> bekks, ok
[21:52] <ShayGuy> Cottus: What do you mean, and how do I check?
[21:52] <bekks> BluesKaj: I did, as you can read in the backlog. :)
[21:53] <Cottus> ShayGuy, i mean is it a wireless or cable?
[21:53] <peggys_mouse> escott: i think i need to reboot first.
[21:53] <abhinavmehta> susana: nothing wrong in using windows-based drivers, I guess. Rest it personal-choices.
[21:53] <escott> peggys_mouse, why do you say that?
[21:54] <bekks> abhinavmehta: ndiswrapper is buggy and broken by design.
[21:54] <ShayGuy> Cottus: I usually connect wirelessly with this computer. That's what I've been trying to do now.
[21:54] <Cottus> sorry
[21:54] <susana> BluesKaj, I'll try bekks web ok?
[21:54] <abhinavmehta> bekks: ohh..
[21:55] <MissVera> escott, k, done
[21:55] <bekks> abhinavmehta: and, in addition, there are at least two more recent native driver approaches available. So there is no need to use ndiswrapper.
[21:55] <escott> MissVera, then sudo chroot /media/ubuntu
[21:55] <i7c> is there some git GUI that shows the single branches a little bit better than gitg?
[21:55] <BluesKaj> ok susana
[21:55] <escott> i7c, giggle gitk?
[21:56] <MissVera> escot, K.
[21:56] <peggys_mouse> escott: the install i was doing crashed because it ran out of room. i wanted to make sure to clear that up so these instructions had space to work. maybe i didn't need to but figured it wouldn't hurt.
[21:56] <i7c> escott: oh i'm stupid, i totally overlooked those in the ubuntu wiki. thx
[21:56] <escott> peggys_mouse, ok
[21:56] <abhinavmehta> bekks: ok..thanx for update. :)
[21:56] <jgoppert> anyone know why 12.04 is sending 1mbps of nfs traffic from each of my workstations?
[21:56] <Cottus> ShayGuy, you can also try to reconnect , through whatever means, and in the meantime check /var/log/syslog :)
[21:56] <hecate> broadband usb disapears after install and or connection of ethernet. Also had to be connected through win xp then reboot to ubuntu install disk to even be recognized by ubuntu. Any thoughts?
[21:57] <ShayGuy> Cottus: You mean just plug it into the router?
[21:57] <BluesKaj> susana, my wifi knowledge is somewhat limited , but check networm manager to se if you have any networks ,  ifup wlan0, in the terminal might help
[21:57] <Cottus> no
[21:57] <Cottus> ShayGuy, this time i mean through network-manager , i suppose,
[21:58] <escott> how can i force grub to always show the menu. the documentation is a bit unclear https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Configuring_GRUB_2
[21:58] <MissVera> escott so, Im sitting at root@xubuntu:/#    if that's right.
[21:58] <escott> MissVera, good. now run "grub-install /dev/sda"
[21:58] <Cottus> ShayGuy, nevermind, i don't know that stuff ,
[21:59] <susana> bekks, it didn't work
[21:59] <MissVera> escott, should it be /sda   or /sda1 ?
[21:59] <bekks> susana: what exactly "didnt work"?
[21:59] <escott> MissVera, /dev/sda without the "1"
[21:59] <susana> bekks, the wireless
[21:59] <bekks> susana: what did you do exactly, and which error messages did you receive?
[21:59] <nmvictor> is their VBA support in MS Office Excel, Word e.t.c under wine?
[21:59] <ShayGuy> Cottus: Well, the top-right menu still says "Networking disabled (gray); ✓ Enable Networking; (i) Connection Information (gray); (pencil) Edit Connections..."
[21:59] <Cottus> escott, it's in /etc/default/grub
[21:59] <escott> Cottus, what option in that?
[21:59] <MissVera> escott, installation finished, No error reported.  :>
[22:00] <susana> bekks, no error msjs. I did as said in your link
[22:00] <Cottus> escott, hidden_timeout i think
[22:00] <Cottus> escott, i 'll send you debian
[22:00] <escott> Cottus, that doesn't say it would show the menu. "The time the screen remains blank but available for display is determined by a setting in /etc/default/grub (GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT) "
[22:00] <escott> MissVera, hold there for a moment. trying to figure out how we can force grub to show the menu for debug purposes
[22:00] <bekks> susana: Did you check the firmware is installed correctly?
[22:01] <susana> how can I see that bekks?
[22:01] <bekks> susana: Thats said in my link.
[22:01] <Cottus> escott if you remove that setting and set GRUB_TIMEOUT?
[22:01] <nmvictor> is their VBA support in MS Office Excel, Word e.t.c under wine?
[22:01] <MissVera> escott, the last time i tried to alter the config, i had to type 'sudo nano /etc/default/grub'
[22:01] <susana> bekks, huh?
[22:02] <MissVera> i doubt that helps, since i know next to nothing about any of this.
[22:02] <escott> Cottus, the documentation is just astoundingly good :)
[22:02] <escott> MissVera, do "nano /etc/default/grub" (the sudo is unnecessary because you are already root)
[22:02] <Cottus> http://sprunge.us/d0dT
[22:03] <susana> bekks, I followed the first response method
[22:03] <bekks> susana: First answer, point 3: "make sure that the firmware-b43-installer and the b43-fwcutter packages are installed"
[22:03] <MissVera> escott, K. Im there.
[22:03] <escott> MissVera, what does the GRUB_TIMEOUT line say?
[22:03] <susana> bekks, they are
[22:03] <susana> bekks, I installed them
[22:03] <escott> MissVera, and is it commented (does it start with a #)
[22:03] <bekks> susana: Did you check dmesg to see wether that was sufficient to load the firmware?
[22:03] <Cottus> ShayGuy, enable Networking and then enable Wireless Networking
[22:04] <devslash> I installed ubuntu server 12.04. does it support mounting hfs+ file systems out of the box?
[22:04] <ShayGuy> Cottus: "Enable Networking" is already checked. Hence the checkmark. (Or is that not showing up?)
[22:05] <escott> devslash, read-only unless journaling is disabled
[22:05] <wolfslord> I'm trying to set my 5.1 sound to work properly under ubuntu 12.04. I'm following every tutorial I find on google, but none is working. Can someone help me?
[22:05] <escott> devslash, might require some userspace drivers
[22:05] <susana> bekks, I'm new to linux
[22:05] <Cottus> ShayGuy, it is ,
[22:05] <bekks> susana: Could you please pastebin the output of "dmesg" then?
[22:05] <devslash> I want read only access not write
[22:05] <Cottus> ShayGuy, so, ShayGuy does it ever connect?
[22:06] <devslash> Should've specified that
[22:06] <ShayGuy> Cottus: Nope.
[22:06] <susana> bekks, ok
[22:06] <Cottus> i saw many packets in eth1 though
[22:06] <goddard> anyone use mediafire express?
[22:06] <Cottus> ok
[22:07] <Cottus> ShayGuy, so , you cannot connect
[22:07] <Cottus> ShayGuy, do you have a list with all the wireless networks
[22:07] <devslash> Escott so I can mount it read Only?
[22:07] <MissVera> escott, GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 no # infront   but, there are #'s at the bottom?    #Uncomment to enable BadRam filtering, modify to suit your needs #this works with Linux (no patch required) and with any kernel that obtains #the memory map inforation from GRUB (GNU mach, kernel of FreeBSD ...)  #GRUB_BADRAM="0x012345678,0xfefefefe,0x89abcdef,0xefefefef"  then #uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)
[22:07] <escott> devslash, you should be able to
[22:08] <susana> bekks, http://pastebin.com/wyyd2ftc
[22:08] <escott> MissVera, ok. don't need to know about the lines below. just that one line. What about the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT line?
[22:08] <ShayGuy> Cottus: When I unchecked and then checked that, syslog showed NetworkManager saying "sleeping or disabling..." immediately after recording the check/uncheck.
[22:08] <MissVera> escott, =0
[22:09] <escott> MissVera, but commented?
[22:09] <peggys_mouse> escott: sorry this is taking forever. having trouble rebooting to live
[22:09] <Cottus> that's normal
[22:09] <susana> bekks, lots of 'fatal error'
[22:09] <MissVera> escott, are you asking if it has a # in front of it?
[22:09] <escott> MissVera, yes
[22:09] <MissVera> escott, none of the GRUB_ have a # in front of them
[22:10] <MissVera> escott, except that one that the bottom that was #GRUB_BADRAM
[22:10] <J-Escobar> I need a little help. Yesterday I was in disk utility and formatted my slave drive and after a reboot, my primary drive will not boot up. I am running 10.04. At first I thought I accidentally formatted my primary drive, but I booted a live CD and everything is still there. So not sure why it will not boot up. I have a backup of my etc, var, usr, bin, and home directories from a few days ago. Is there a way I can repair it so it will bo
[22:10] <J-Escobar> tried a test 10.04 install on another drive and tried to restore my directories and it boots, but doesn't work 100% right.
[22:10] <escott> i feel like i should edit this documentation to say "English do you speak it ...."
[22:10] <devslash2> Escott so will it work as read only out the box?
[22:10] <MissVera> :/
[22:10] <bekks> susana: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1783272.html
[22:10] <escott> devslash2, can't answer "out of the box" but it should be readable
[22:11] <devslash2> Ok
[22:11] <Cottus> J-Escobar, boot loader got erased maybe
[22:11] <escott> MissVera, currently you don't see any grub splash screen correct
[22:11] <J-Escobar> Cottus: i am also thinking something happened to the boot loader. not sure how though. how would I go about fixing that?
[22:11] <MissVera> escott, no..
[22:12] <escott> MissVera, asking #grub if they can translate
[22:12] <wolfslord> Does anyone knows how to make 5.1 surround sound work under ubuntu 12.04?
[22:13] <Cottus> J-Escobar, grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/yourprimarydrive/boot/ /deb/sda
[22:13] <iLogical> my mic volume control defaults it every session, how to stop it?
[22:13] <susana> bekks ok
[22:14] <escott> MissVera, i think what we might want is to change GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 to =5 and change GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true to =false
[22:14] <escott> MissVera, which will hopefull give us some indication that grub is alive and kicking
[22:15] <escott> MissVera, after you make those changes save the file and exit nano (ctrl-X) then run "update-grub"
[22:15] <J-Escobar> Cottus: Do I just boot from a live cd and run that command?
[22:15] <Cottus> J-Escobar, yes (*/dev/sda)
[22:15] <Cottus> /dev/sda
[22:16] <MissVera> escott, Okay. it's saved
[22:16] <J-Escobar> Cottus: ok thanks, let me boot the live cd and try it. i will let you know how it goes.
[22:16] <MissVera> escott, and updated :x
[22:16] <Cottus> ok
[22:17] <escott> MissVera, lets make sure that was there and run "grep HIDDEN /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[22:17] <escott> MissVera, actually do "grep -i timeout /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[22:17] <susana> bekks, still nothing
[22:17] <MissVera> escott, it didnt do anything
[22:18] <peggys_mouse> escott: the live cd is now hanging on the ubuntu screen. any ideas how to get around that?
[22:18] <susana> bekks, and dmesg still throws the same errors
[22:18] <escott> peggys_mouse, hit the up arrow. what does it say?
[22:19] <peggys_mouse> escott: nothing. just that same purple screen
[22:19] <escott> peggys_mouse, try a cold reboot (full shutdown)
[22:19] <peggys_mouse> escott: i have several times
[22:19] <MissVera> escott,  k. so. it says set timeout=-1 then set timeout=1-  then  if [ "x${timeout}" != "x-1" ]; then set timeout=0
[22:19] <peggys_mouse> always comes back to the same spot
[22:19] <escott> peggys_mouse, it booted once, i see no reason why it shouldnt boot again
[22:20] <iLogical> my mic volume control defaults it every session, how to stop it?
[22:20] <escott> MissVera, ok. i guess thats correct. does "grep -i nomodeset /boot/grub/grub.cfg" still show your nomodeset stuff?
[22:20] <peggys_mouse> escott: when i had that drive full problem, what drive where they talking about? not related i assume?
[22:20] <escott> peggys_mouse, i dont know. i wasnt there :)
[22:20] <MissVera> peggys_mouse, Mine used to do that. So, I'd try to boot it , have it fail, then take the live media out and boot it, let it fail, then put it back in and reboot, and it would work. Dont know why.
[22:21] <Mikato> guys my cursore was disapear when i installed paralllels tools
[22:21] <Mikato> how to fix that?
[22:21] <Guest68430> :)
[22:21] <MissVera> escott, yes.
[22:21] <peggys_mouse> MissVera: i'll try that
[22:22] <Guest68430> polen
[22:23] <escott> MissVera, ok. then i guess try and reboot again. this time you should see a 5 second countdown timer at some point during the boot. during that timer you can press SHIFT and it should show a grub menu. if it doesn't then grub isn't working
[22:23] <ShayGuy> Sorry, I think my connection went out.
[22:24] <MissVera> OH
[22:24] <MissVera> I LOVE YOU
[22:25] <J-Escobar> Cottus: it is mounting the drive in /media is that a problem? I am also getting an unrecognized option error.
[22:25] <Cottus> np
[22:25] <ShayGuy> Cottus: Last thing from you I got was "ShayGuy, do you have a list with all the wireless networks "
[22:25] <Cottus> yes that one
[22:25] <peggys_mouse> escott: i think i'm hooped. will have to re-install. what a day.
[22:25] <MissVera> escott, ahem  so   GNU GRUB version 1.99-21ubuntu3
[22:26] <CIDR> What do you guys reccomend for watching TV via cable/dvb card ?  no DVR stuff or anything
[22:26] <escott> CIDR, what country are you in?
[22:27] <CIDR> US
[22:27] <MissVera> escott, and at the bottom, press enter to boot the selected OS 'e' to edit the commands befoe booting or 'c' for a command-line.  So! Im in grub. For the first time.   ..ever.. and i've been trying to fix this issue for two days -.-  <3
[22:27] <escott> CIDR, pirate it from europe :)
[22:27] <Cottus> :D
[22:27] <CIDR> Eh, I have cable going right to it, just like to be able to watch the baseball game on one of my monitors
[22:27] <escott> CIDR, in truth getting cable is going to be a pain. most providers don't like to give you the card you need to decrypt
[22:28] <escott> MissVera, what happens when you select one and press enter?
[22:28] <Cottus> J-Escobar, can you tell me "grub-install --version" is it 99 ?
[22:28] <CIDR> I don't need a cable card...
[22:29] <CIDR> Half of it is unecrpted DVB, the other half is still analog
[22:29] <MissVera> escott, which should I select?  There is...   Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.0-23-generic   then  Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.0-23-generic (recovery mode)  then two Memory test options
[22:29] <Cottus> first
[22:29] <escott> CIDR, if you are happy with unencrypted or analog then thats fine
[22:29] <J-Escobar> Cottus: I am not sure sorry. is the command grub-install --boot or should it be grub-install -root ? i found a site online that is showing the same command using root instead of boot.
[22:30] <escott> MissVera, either
[22:30] <MissVera> escott, I just went with the first Ubuntu option.
[22:30] <CIDR> I am, so reccomendations on software?
[22:31] <Cottus> J-Escobar, it's --boot-directory=
[22:31] <escott> CIDR, the v4l project is the place to go for information on hardware http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[22:31] <J-Escobar> Cottus: ok, I am running 10.04 if that helps any.
[22:31] <wolfslord> Can anyone help me with a sound problem?
[22:31] <escott> CIDR, they can also point you at software
[22:32] <MissVera> escott, and Im on a page with quite a few lines of info and it doesnt appear to be going anywhere.  at the top it says something about Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)
[22:32] <ShayGuy> Cottus: Did you get what I said after that? It was 'Cottus: When I unchecked and then checked that, syslog showed NetworkManager saying "sleeping or disabling..." immediately after recording the check/uncheck.'
[22:32] <escott> MissVera, ok. then back to the livecd
[22:33] <MissVera> escott, did you need any info from this page  of stuff?
[22:33] <Cottus> ok ok , you better ask in ##networking , can you see a list of wireless networks?
[22:33] <escott> MissVera, no. couldn't find the root. thats all we need to know
[22:34] <peggys_mouse> escott: thanks for all your help. i'm giving up for now. will come back tomorrow with a fresh head.
[22:34] <Cottus> J-Escobar, show me a "grub --help"
[22:35] <Cottus> J-Escobar, Sorry , grub-install --help
[22:36] <trololo> =)
[22:36] <Cottus> :P
[22:37] <J-Escobar> Cottus: here it is http://pastebin.com/G2P9yrMU
[22:38] <MissVera> escott, Alright, back in live.
[22:38] <Cottus> J-Escobar, you can try "grub-install --root-directory=/media/thedir/boot /dev/sda"
[22:39] <escott> MissVera, ok. we can go through the whole chrooting process again. if you remember it. sudo mkdir /media/ubuntu; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/ubuntu mount --bind /dev /media/ubuntu/dev same for /proc and /sys
[22:39] <Cottus> J-Escobar, i don't even know if it is a grub problem , you should know that
[22:39] <wizack> I just deleted everything in my home directory by misstake with "sudo rm -rf * ~/.Private/", its about 4 months of hard work so I need professional help here, please do not troll. How do I restore them?
[22:39] <Mikato> ok how via terminal change the directory for example i want into parallels tools?
[22:39] <escott> Cottus, J-Escobar, its --boot-directory
[22:40] <MissVera> escott, I dont remember it, sorry. :x
[22:40] <escott> !undelete | wizack
[22:40] <J-Escobar> Cottus: ok i will give it a shot.
[22:40] <escott> MissVera, peggys_mouse start by mounting the installed ubuntu system with "sudo mkdir /media/ubuntu; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/ubuntu"
[22:40] <escott> MissVera, peggys_mouse then bind mount the special filesystems. "sudo mount --bind /dev /media/ubuntu/dev; sudo mount --bind /sys /media/ubuntu/sys; sudo mount --bind /proc /media/ubuntu/proc"
[22:40] <J-Escobar> escott: the --boot-directory command was not working.
[22:41] <nicfer> hello
[22:41] <escott> J-Escobar, try from a chroot then. i find that easier see ^^^^
[22:41] <Cottus> wizack, also testdisk,
[22:41] <escott> MissVera, J-Escobar, finally sudo chroot /media/ubuntu
[22:42]  * Cottus thinking chroot is the best!
[22:42] <ccolorado> Hello there. I am wondering do apt-cache and / or aptitude save (cache's) the packages it has downloads ? if so where are they  ?
[22:42] <VirtualBlackness> ccolorado: /var/cache/apt/archives
[22:43] <ccolorado> VirtualBlackness: tanks
[22:43] <J-Escobar> Cottus, escort I get this when I try --boot-directory http://pastebin.com/T2QnP6aQ  should I just add sudo chroot before the command and try again?
[22:43] <wizack> escott Cottus Thanks guys. I'm nervous.
[22:43] <escott> wizack, you should be
[22:43] <Cottus> J-Escobar, can you chroot ?
[22:43] <nicfer> one question, I need to install ubuntu on a netbook and I don´t have a usb drive at hand, can I boot from a cd on a remote pc drive?
[22:44] <escott> wizack, since your data is encrypted its going to be hard to even distinguish it from free unallocated space
[22:44] <nicfer> with some kind of network booting
[22:44] <Cottus> :O
[22:44] <J-Escobar> Cottus: when I chroot it just gives me a chroot: missing operand
[22:44] <Cottus> sure
[22:44] <Cottus> ok
[22:44] <Cottus> wait
[22:45] <Cottus> !chroot
[22:45] <i7c> hi. if i install the ge
[22:45] <Cottus> J-Escobar, i'll send you some commands to chroot
[22:45] <escott> J-Escobar, you have a different usage message from me. not sure what version of grub you have. to use the chroot you have to bind mount the special filesystems then chroot in. see the instructions I was giving MissVera above
[22:45] <J-Escobar> Cottus: ok thank you
[22:45] <i7c> sorry. if i install the guest additions in virtual box the virtual system is still completely seperated from my host system, isn't it?
[22:45] <Cottus> np
[22:45] <wizack> Cottus escott: Should I "reboot" or kill the system via the switch?
[22:45] <escott> J-Escobar,  start by mounting the installed ubuntu system with "sudo mkdir /media/ubuntu; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/ubuntu"
[22:46] <escott> J-Escobar,  then bind mount the special filesystems. "sudo mount --bind /dev /media/ubuntu/dev; sudo mount --bind /sys /media/ubuntu/sys; sudo mount --bind /proc /media/ubuntu/proc"
[22:46] <escott> wizack, you are still logged in?
[22:46] <wizack> escott: Yes
[22:46] <aguitel> is there anyway to install cinnamon in 12.04?
[22:47] <escott> wizack, and its not giving you lots of errors?
[22:47] <wizack> escott: No... weird
[22:47] <nicfer> anyone knowing about my question?
[22:47] <escott> wizack, im torn between the "immediate shutdown" and the "maybe some of your data could be pulled from the FUSE VFS memory"
[22:47] <VirtualBlackness> i7c it is completely separated from your host file system, unless you specifically point a virtual folder... however it will (obviously) use a lot of the hw... and there is crossover with regard to the desktop environment (mouse etc)
[22:47] <wizack> escott: It show all my files on the Desktop and so on even if they are not there physically
[22:47] <escott> wizack, if you try and cat them does it give you IO errors?
[22:48] <escott> wizack, it may only allow you to save data from files that you have recently read or have open file handles, but id say your chances of getting anything back are slim
[22:49] <angelixd> okay, I got a really weird issue here
[22:49] <wizack> escott: cat: /home/beloved/Desktop/vinsatser.txt: No such file or directory
[22:49] <angelixd> I just re-installed ubuntu on my thinkpad using a jump-drive live installation
[22:49] <i7c> VirtualBlackness: okay, but that means i dont have to worry that any bad software in the virtual system can affect the integrity of my host? (cuz my virtual system is windows eeew :D)
[22:49] <escott> wizack, ok. in that case just shut it down
[22:49] <wizack> escott: How?
[22:49] <angelixd> and it appears that the master boot record got written to the jump drive instead of my laptop's hard drive
[22:49] <escott> wizack, doesn't really matter
[22:50] <J-Escobar> Cottus: ok i have ran those commands. what is next?
[22:50] <Cottus> source /etc/profile
[22:50] <wizack> escott: I removed with "sudo rm -rf ~/.Private/*"
[22:50] <Cottus> env-update
[22:50] <Cottus> grub-install /dev/sda
[22:50] <wizack> escott: Then everything went black
[22:50] <angelixd> seriously, when I boot up with my jump drive now, my hard drive is registered as the root partition and everything
[22:51] <wizack> escott: What is .Private for?
[22:51] <VirtualBlackness> i7c yes. You can get it as infected as you want. However if you pass files between it and linux, you will want to clean those files before passing them on again to another windows install... but the linux host will remain unaffected.
[22:51] <escott> wizack, it holds the ciphertext for the encrypted home. ie its where the data really was. you deleted your entire home directory
[22:51] <wizack> escott: Shit, I use encrypted LVFS
[22:51] <J-Escobar> Cottus: command env-update was not found.
[22:51] <Cottus> np
[22:52] <schultza> what is the best gui editor for c/c++ programming?
[22:52] <nicfer> sorry for the repetition, but I´m not sure if my messages get published
[22:52] <i7c> VirtualBlackness: thanks for your help :)
[22:52] <escott> wizack, .Private is for ecryptfs. not sure why you would have ecryptfs AND LVFS
[22:52] <angelixd> does anyone know of a good, simple way to write a correct MBR to my hard drive?
[22:52] <red> op security, put ur boot partition on a usb stick
[22:52] <wizack> escott: I was asked upon install.
[22:53] <wizack> escott: Anything I should think of other than the link you gave me?
[22:53] <escott> wizack, pray
[22:53] <Cottus> J-Escobar, you basically entered the system now
[22:53] <wizack> escott: I do that now. Namaste.
[22:53] <escott> angelixd, grub-install /dev/sdX
[22:53] <nicfer> can I now be read?
[22:53] <red> y
[22:53] <OerHeks> yes nicfer
[22:53] <escott> angelixd, what is currently mounted as /?
[22:54] <nicfer> wasn´t identified before
[22:54] <angelixd> escott: /dev/sda1
[22:54] <escott> angelixd, sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[22:54] <wizack> escott: Almost cryed
[22:55] <chipotle_> is there a way to clone my ubuntu part of the hdd (i dual boot with win7) so i can use ubuntu with my new ssd
[22:55] <angelixd> on another note, shouldn't this be handled by the installer?
[22:55] <OerHeks> nicfer " to install ubuntu on a netbook and I don´t have a usb drive at hand, can I boot from a cd on a remote pc drive?" yes you can, connect the drive, boot your netbook and go into bios, it should be availabel in the boot menu
[22:55] <escott> angelixd, sometimes it gets confused
[22:56] <n1ckn4me09876543> when i typed in terminal: $ fbpanel        i get this msg volume: can't open /dev/mixer
[22:56] <n1ckn4me09876543> fbpanel: can't start plugin volume
[22:56] <n1ckn4me09876543>   how can I disable that plugin so i can run fbpanel?
[22:56] <nicfer> it´s a desktop cd reader...
[22:56] <VirtualBlackness> OerHeks: I think he is asking if he can somehow boot over network to another machines DVD.... is that correct nicfer
[22:56] <Cottus> escott, wizack with a testdisk wouldn't it be possible to copy the folder intact?
[22:56] <angelixd> escott: one hell of a thing to get confused about :-/
[22:57] <nicfer> yeah, that´s what i meant
[22:57] <Cottus> escott, at times testdisk does not copy all file but empty
[22:57] <escott> angelixd, or it had some error and just kept chugging along but the mbr never got set up. it happens
[22:57] <ceti331> why does 2-finger swipe for desktopswitching endup being unuseably fast .. is that due to simulated momentum
[22:57] <escott> Cottus, sorry whats the question?
[22:57] <angelixd> well, hopefully this time it worked.  let's see
[22:58] <Cottus> is testdisk enough ? and is it enought to just copy .private ?
[22:58] <VirtualBlackness> nicfer: It would be pretty complicated if you could... you would have to setup a pxe boot and point to it as boot medium... I couldn't walk you through it.
[22:59] <escott> chipotle_, you could just dd it, but only if its the same size. you could copy it. in either case you have to fix various things like bootloaders and /etc/fstab and initrds. you could also do !clone and reinstall
[22:59] <angelixd> escott: thanks for the help.  everything is fine now :-)
[23:00] <escott> Cottus, he deleted .private. it no longer exists to copy
[23:00] <angelixd> is it worth filing a bug or a blog post about this?
[23:00] <devslash> [15:59] (devslash) I'm using ssh to login into my server and starting a copy command but for some reason after about 10 minutes my ssh client says that the connection has become interrupted and the file copy operation stops.  The server is Ubuntu based.  Is there something I can do to have the file copy continue even if I disconnect and reconnect?
[23:01] <escott> angelixd, we definitely dont need another blog post on this. if you want to try and recreate the problem and identify why its happening a detailed bug report would surely be appreciated
[23:01] <MissVera> escott, Okay, I've done the sudo chroot /media/xubuntu
[23:01] <Cottus> escott, nevermind, :" testdist is a program that shows deleted files and let you copy entire directory, however it does not always copy as expected , resulting in some empty files "
[23:01] <escott> angelixd, but a "it happened once when the moon was in the seventh house, and jupiter was rising" isn't going to do much good for anyone
[23:01] <angelixd> escott: fair enough :-P
[23:02] <escott> MissVera, ok. run "sudo blkid | grep sda1" and take note of the UUID (long string of letters and numbers)
[23:02] <devslash> Escott any idea?
[23:03] <MissVera> escott, K, did you want me to type out the UUID?
[23:03] <escott> MissVera, compare that uuid to what is listed in /etc/fstab? does it match? run "grep vmlinuz /boot/grub/grub.cfg and see if it contains root=UUID= that UUID again
[23:03] <escott> MissVera, you dont need to type it
[23:03] <MissVera> escott, do I just type out /etc/fstab to see if it matches?
[23:04] <P-Chan> Youtube videos run faster in my google chrome. How fix it? Linus Torvads solution don't fixed that
[23:04] <escott> devslash, use screen
[23:04] <aaas> what package provides the 'gear' or 'cog' at the top right, or is there an alternative way to log out, my 'gear' seems to be missing
[23:04] <escott> devslash, you can run around nohup'ing everything but screen is going to be a bit nicer
[23:04] <devslash> Screen cp /food/foo2?
[23:05] <escott> MissVera, cat /etc/fstab and look for that UUID
[23:05] <MissVera> escott, I ran the latter command, and I dont see root=UUID= anywhere.  Its only two lines worth of info.
[23:05] <escott> devslash,
[23:05] <escott> devslash, http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935
[23:06] <escott> MissVera, what do those lines look like?
[23:06] <escott> MissVera, in particular what follows root=????
[23:07] <MissVera> escott, cat /etc/fstab has two UUID numbers. one for ext4 and one for swap.  the one under ext4 matches, the one under  swap does not
[23:08] <trism> aaas: indicator-session if you are using unity or gnome-panel with indicator-applet
[23:08] <escott> devslash, basically when you ssh in. run "screen" you get a new bash prompt. if you are disconnected ssh back in. run screen -ls it should list PID.tty#.hostname, and screen -r [TAB] should fill that in so you can reconnect to your disconnected session
[23:09] <escott> MissVera, ok so fstab is correct
[23:09] <devslash> Okay thanks
[23:09] <aaas> trism thanks a bunch that worked easily
[23:10] <escott> MissVera, so the key is that vmlinuz line of the grub.cfg
[23:10] <MissVera> escott, for grep vmlinuz /boot/grub/grub.cfg the two lines, after root.   root=/dev/sda1 ro   quiet splash nomodeset $vt_handoff   and then the other says root=/dev/sda1 ro recover nomodeset
[23:10] <escott> MissVera, odd. sda1 is correct (although not ideal)
[23:11] <SplinterOfChaos> tyz.
[23:11] <escott> MissVera, "grep UUID /etc/default/grub" what does it say?
[23:12] <escott> MissVera, and here when I type UUID i mean "UUID" not the long string
[23:12] <SplinterOfChaos> d
[23:12] <SplinterOfChaos>  
[23:12] <SplinterOfChaos>  
[23:12] <FloodBot1> SplinterOfChaos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:12] <MissVera> # Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass "root=UUIS=xxx" paramtere to Linux     #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true
[23:13] <MissVera> escott,   erp.  parameter*
[23:13] <escott> MissVera, so why does yours say /dev/sda1 if that line is commented
[23:13] <MissVera> omg so many types
[23:13] <escott> MissVera, its ok. i got what i needed. the second line begins with a #
[23:14] <MissVera> escott, Uh.  Your guess is as good as mine.  lol...
[23:14] <escott> MissVera, going to start some dinner and ponder next steps
[23:15] <escott> MissVera, its maybe worthwhile to run "update-initramfs"
[23:15] <microcolonel> is there an ubuntu offtopic channel?
[23:15] <nbdntu> why is ubuntu server installer so ugly?
[23:15] <raven> i would like to capture values of a current meter by (web)camera to make statistics. ocr not very helpful yet. anyone who would like to play around a bit?
[23:15] <Myrtti> !ot | microcolonel
[23:15] <beandog> nbdntu: console apps, gotta be able to install it on *anything*
[23:15] <Myrtti> NDPMacBook: it's utilitarian.
[23:15] <MissVera> escott, i tried to update all the packages last night, and it said i ran out of room, so it never did. but that was after the install. Which, was also weird, because I had 50gb of free space.
[23:15] <microcolonel> thank you, Myrtti .
[23:16] <nbdntu> yeah, but installer should try X first... and then console if X fails
[23:16] <nbdntu> *i think*
[23:17] <nbdntu> there is X server available for ubuntu server?
[23:17] <nbdntu> i'll be able to install X later?
[23:17] <MissVera> escott, i tried 'update-initramfs' and id said i need to specify at least one of -s, -u, or -d
[23:17] <beandog> nbdntu: yah you can install it later
[23:18] <devslash> Escott ok I used screen then disconnected from my server and logged back in. How do I reattach to the screen session I started previously?
[23:18] <nbdntu> beandog: thanks! :D
[23:18] <microcolonel> NDPMacBook: of course, ubuntu server is a subset of ubuntu with some tweaks for servers, but it's ultimately connected to the same repositories.
[23:18] <microcolonel> whoopse
[23:18] <microcolonel> sorry NDPMacBook
[23:18] <microcolonel> that was for you nbdntu
[23:18]  * Cottus thinks sometimes disc is full ( inode ) by <- the number of files 
[23:18] <microcolonel> :p
[23:18] <microcolonel> I need to sleep
[23:18] <raven> i would like to capture values of a current meter by (web)camera to make statistics. ocr not very helpful yet. anyone who would like to play around a bit?
[23:19] <Cottus> devslash, screen -R
[23:19] <Cottus> i think
[23:19] <escott> devslash, screen -ls should list it, screen -r [TAB] should fill in the name
[23:19] <devslash> Okay thanks
[23:19] <escott> MissVera, -k al
[23:19] <escott> MissVera, -k all
[23:22] <MissVera> escott, it just keeps telling me to specify at leastone of -c, -u, or -d   even though after that if gives a list of options and -k is on them  >.>
[23:22] <raven> i would like to capture values of a current meter by (web)camera to make statistics. ocr not very helpful yet. anyone who would like to play around a bit?
[23:23] <lolly> hello
[23:23] <Cottus> pop
[23:23] <MissVera> escott, i did  update-initramfs -k all    to no avail
[23:23] <escott> MissVera, try -u -k all
[23:23] <lolly> can someone help me?
[23:23] <Guest91071> Raven you can buy meters with RS 232 output and logging software for <$100
[23:24] <cathie> what's wrong lolly?
[23:24] <devslash> Thanks guys its working perfectly now
[23:24] <lolly> i want to install win7 on ubuntu but it has wrong hard disk type or something
[23:24] <lolly> how can i solve dat
[23:24] <paul_> hello folks :)
[23:25] <escott> lolly, what was the exact error message?
[23:25] <MissVera> escott, k. generating /bot/initrd.img-3.2.0-23-generic   and then it just back to the root@xubuntu:/#
[23:25] <lolly> hmm 1 min
[23:25] <MissVera> boot*
[23:25] <MissVera> gdi
[23:25] <aguitel> i am using xfce+cinnamon ,can i remove xfce ?
[23:25] <i7c> aguitel: sure, then you can only log into cinnamon afterwards
[23:25] <lolly> it says for win7 u need NTFS
[23:26] <aguitel> i7c, thanks
[23:26] <escott> MissVera, ok. so im tempted to try and hand edit the grub.cfg. this is probably easiest from a gui so you can cut and paste. so open a new terminal and type "gksudo gedit /media/ubuntu/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[23:26] <i7c> lolly: that is right. you cannot install win7 on the same partition like ubuntu
[23:26] <cathie> let's see if I can get help with something minor.. I'm using ubuntu 10.04 and need to activate ctrl+alt+backspace to work, but it doesn't work.
[23:26] <stopbit> can't figure out why any param will not work http://codepad.org/8vXHAqgA
[23:26] <escott> lolly, ok. boot the livecd and select "try ubuntu" then use gparted to shrink the ext4 partition of ubuntu
[23:26] <aguitel> i7c, how remove all xfce?
[23:27] <MonkeyDust> lolly  don't forget to backup data first, if you start resizing partitions
[23:27] <i7c> aguitel: sudo apt-get remove xfce4     and after that you can run a sudo apt-get autoremove
[23:27] <i7c> aguitel: the second command will remove all unused packages such as xfce plugins
[23:27] <aguitel> i7c, and what about this? :http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[23:27] <lolly> ok thanks will try
[23:27] <paul_> any hints on how i can turn unity to 3d ?
[23:28] <MonkeyDust> paul_  you mean the cube?
[23:28] <cathie> What apt do I install to enable control alt backspace to log out?
[23:28] <paul_> i`d like the click and drag between workstations to work
[23:28] <escott> cathie, you would need to make an xorg.conf and enable zapping
[23:28] <zamn> hey i edited my grub2 configuration but for some reason its not taking effect once i restart
[23:28] <MissVera> escott,  *gksudo:11075): Gtk-WARNING ** Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "equinox",
[23:28] <cathie> wow sounds complecated
[23:28] <i7c> aguitel: the one for "xubuntu" should work for you also
[23:28] <escott> zamn, if you edited /etc/default/grub you would need to run update-grub
[23:29] <zamn> i did
[23:29] <escott> MissVera, but the gui should appear
[23:29] <aguitel> i7c, ok
[23:29] <MonkeyDust> cathie  system settings, keyboard, shortcuts .... but it's ot logout, it's stopping X
[23:29] <i7c> aguitel: this one removes a little bit more than the one i told you. also removes programs that come with xfce like editors etc
[23:29] <MonkeyDust> not
[23:29] <MissVera> escott, nothing appeared.. still just on terminal.
[23:29] <raven> i would like to capture values of a current meter by (web)camera to make statistics. ocr not very helpful yet. anyone who would like to play around a bit?
[23:29] <aguitel> n
[23:29] <escott> MissVera, you ran this in a new terminal correct
[23:29] <MissVera> escott, yes.
[23:30] <stopbit> Can some one give me a hand with this snippet of code.  http://codepad.org/25D7zdJa
[23:30] <Cottus> raven, where do you have the output shown? in the screen?
[23:30] <MissVera> escott, also, everytime i tried to gksudo anything, it never worked.  I had to sudo nano.
[23:30] <zamn> stopbit: you're comparing a character to a string
[23:31] <L3top> MissVera: on a whim, can I please have the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA  while I backscroll through your issue?
[23:31] <MissVera> L3top, should I do this in a new terminal? And while you're backscrolling, realize I know nothing about any of this :/
[23:32] <Saiki> can someone tell me where the default location for apache-tomcat is in ubuntu server?
[23:32] <Guest91071> I think Raven is a bot
[23:32] <zamn> Saiki: just find it.  Type in termina: sudo find / -name "apache"
[23:32] <L3top> any terminal will do MissVera... but it looks like escott is on the right track. I just want to eliminate a bad video driver
[23:32] <raven> Cottus yes i capture the watts with a webcam on full 320x240 and i already changed the video input to black/white and very obvious chars but i got no useful value out of the ocr
[23:32] <L3top> as a compounding issue
[23:34] <escott> MissVera, generally not recommended but since this is a livecd nothing is permanent. try "sudo gedit /media/ubuntu/grub/grub.cfg
[23:34] <Saiki> zamn: no results
[23:34] <MissVera> L3top, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controll [0300]: VIA Technologies, Inc. KM400/KN400/P4M800 [S3 UniChrome] [1106:7205] (rev 01)
[23:34] <L3top> oh... wow...
[23:34] <zamn> Saiki: try with the wildcard at the end
[23:34] <Cottus> raven, thnx
[23:34] <escott> L3top, we got it to bring up the kernel, but there was no root
[23:35] <raven> Cottus ?
[23:35] <MissVera> escott, sudo: gedit: command not found
[23:35] <Cottus> raven, for the info
[23:35] <escott> MissVera, what is the gui text editor in xubuntu?
[23:35] <Marcin> single user mode in ubuntu
[23:35] <Marcin> how to do that?
[23:36] <escott> MissVera, gvim? if you are comfortable with it?
[23:36] <BHSPitMonkey> Hey all. On some boots, I don't have any sound devices appearing in my Sound preferences. A reboot tends to fix it. Does anyone have a reboot-less workaround suggestion? (Restarting pulse doesn't help.)
[23:36] <lolly> emm... one question i dunno what version of ubuntu do i have so i  downloaded it from official site and now trying to install it on flash for livecd or whatever, is it matters if i have different ubuntu version? can i still use gparted programm?
[23:36] <MissVera> escott, I don't know.  And, I'm using te Voyager edition of Xubuntu, if that helps... Someone had recommended it to me.
[23:36] <BHSPitMonkey> lolly: gparted is available for any version of ubuntu
[23:36] <escott> lolly, you can use your old install cd thats fine
[23:36] <MissVera> escott, I dont know what gvim is :x
[23:36] <lolly> thats a problem cuz i dont have it
[23:37] <L3top> escott: I see... but bringing up unity gui on a km400 is going to be... fun without these issues. The best driver she will have available is the openchrome, and I would not expect more than 2d unity. It is an integrated micro/pico itx board without a lot of umph. Just be mindful if only terminal hits.
[23:37] <escott> MissVera, what is listed in the gui menu under text editors
[23:37] <escott> L3top, she is running xubuntu
[23:37] <Guest91071> Raven why not use a voltmeter that puts out RS-232 and not bother with OCR?
[23:37] <BHSPitMonkey> escott: gvim might be scary for an uninitiated user
[23:37] <L3top> nm then escott. Sorry to intrude
[23:37] <escott> L3top, not a problem
[23:38] <Jordan_U_bak> MissVera: What are you trying to do?
[23:38] <MissVera> escott, I dont even know where/what the gui menu is... I started using linux distro's a week ago.
[23:38] <escott> L3top, if you've got any ideas i would appreciate them. grub.cfg lists root=/dev/sda1 which is correct, but the kernel panic'ed when it couldn't find root on (0,0)
[23:38] <escott> L3top, presumably the full message was couldn't find root on hd(0,0) or something
[23:38] <MissVera> Jordan_U_bak, not fail at life.  I dont even know anymore. One problem leads into another and i dont have any clue whats going on anymore.
[23:38] <BHSPitMonkey> MissVera: the GUI is the graphical interface, as opposed to the command line. A GUI menu means one you can see and click on
[23:38] <Pops> No Voice for me?
[23:39] <ghostchick> gksudo leafpad?
[23:39] <MissVera> Ghostchick
[23:39] <MissVera> This distro hates me
[23:39] <escott> L3top, as MissVera typed it out her panic was: "not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)"
[23:39] <lolly> so?
[23:39] <Jordan_U_bak> escott: The grub.cfg should have root=UUID=foo , not root=/dev/sda1. It sounds like you don't have any initrd (and grub knows that passing root by UUID only works with an initrd, so it doesn't do it). Ubuntu requires an initrd to boot.
[23:40] <ghostchick> Also for gui application it is always preferable to use gksudo ; sudo is for  terminal commands only
[23:40] <escott> MissVera, the hardware is pretty .... special, lets just say special :)
[23:40] <Saiki> zamn: looks like it goes in /usr/share/tomcat6-*  how do I add other pages?
[23:40] <L3top> sorry to backtrack MissVera have you got pastebinit installed? Or can you install it as you have no GUI?
[23:40] <Jordan_U_bak> MissVera: What was the original problem?
[23:40] <MissVera> escott, lol. It's old. It belongs to a group of children. I wanted to find something lightweight for them to do schoolwork on.
[23:40] <zamn> Saiki: what do you mean add other pages? your configuration files should be in /etc/apache or apache2
[23:41] <escott> MissVera, what does "ls /media/ubuntu/boot/init*" say?
[23:41] <MissVera> L3top Ive pastebin'd something before, i put the url in earlier
[23:41] <L3top> it is capable of running... for the record. I have several of them doing various things.
[23:41] <BHSPitMonkey> MissVera: when did the problem start to occur? Right after you installed ubuntu?
[23:41] <escott> MissVera, that was a previous boot. you would have to reinstall it
[23:41] <L3top> MissVera: can you please pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l?
[23:41] <Guest74270> http://imageshack.us/f/85/panel003.png/  can you guys help me what could cause this kind of problem>
[23:42] <L3top> BHSPitMonkey: Xubuntu
[23:42] <Saiki> zamn: apache-tomcat, not apache
[23:42] <MissVera> escott, /media/xubuntu/boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-23-generic
[23:42] <zamn> ah
[23:42] <zamn> not sure then
[23:42] <L3top> MissVera: the ? was just to indicate a question, not part of the command
[23:43] <MissVera> L3top, can you remind me of the command?  Would it be..  sudo fdisk -1 | pastebinit    ?
[23:43] <BHSPitMonkey> Guest74270: what's the problem there?
[23:43] <L3top> sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit        lower case L not 1
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[23:43] <escott> MissVera, im just chasing down something Jordan_U_bak said. can you go back to the terminal that was chrooted (the first one and not the new one) and run "update-grub; grep vmlinuz /boot/grub/grub.cfg" and see if it still says root=/dev/sda1
[23:43] <MissVera> Now I'm getting confused.  Beyond confused. too many people saying commands and ideas at once.
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[23:44] <BHSPitMonkey> Guest74270: ah, I had to look from a higher angle to see
[23:44] <BHSPitMonkey> bizarre
[23:44] <lolly> escott are they paying u for this kind of job? :)
[23:44] <L3top> MissVera: I am not trying to confuse. Just help. I will wait for you to complete escotts request. I am walking in, he is familiar.
[23:44] <MissVera> L3top, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072212/
[23:45] <escott> L3top, BHSPitMonkey, Jordan_U_bak for everyone trying to help MissVera. installed on /dev/sda1. kernel panic couldn't find root. grub.cfg lists root=/dev/sda1, /etc/default/grub says use UUID. fstab UUID is correct. initrd is updated. chipset is S3 junk... but that would seem to be unrelated to the kernel panic
[23:46] <L3top> Ty MissVera. Now please follow escott's requests. Further communication from me will be with him.
[23:46] <escott> my only thought was to edit the grub.cfg to list a UUID by hand. im not sure what else it could be except a northbridge driver issue (knowing that this has S3 thats more likely)
[23:46] <L3top> escott: often (esp with these) KP occurs with unrecognized nic.
[23:47] <L3top> escott: though this does not seem related to the message puked
[23:47] <BHSPitMonkey> problem with the installer?
[23:48] <MissVera> escott, on both lines, it doesnt say root=dev   it says root=UUID=longstringof numbers.  on both.
[23:48] <escott> MissVera, ok thats NEW :)
[23:48] <c001> I'm having a lot of difficulty finding wifi drivers for the alfa awus036nhr for unbuntu 11.10 or anything >= the 3.0 kernel
[23:48] <lolly> ok i have a problem, when trying to do livecd thing it says: "Start booting from USB device...
[23:49] <escott> MissVera, maybe we didn't have an initrd before running update-initramfs. now that we do maybe we will get lucky. make sure that UUID matches the previous UUID
[23:49] <lolly> SYSLINUX 3.84 2009-12-18 EBIOS and nothing
[23:49] <escott> Jordan_U_bak, thanks for the pointer on initrd presence
[23:50] <L3top> lolly: what version?
[23:50] <L3top> lolly: of ubuntu I mean
[23:50] <lolly> on usb device or installed on notebook?
[23:50] <escott> MissVera, the one you found with sudo blkid | grep sda1
[23:52] <L3top> lolly: usb...
[23:52] <lolly> newest one i think, that what i downloaded from official site
[23:52] <MissVera> escott, sorry, little confused.  Am I tying sudo blkid | grep sda1  to see if the UUID matches the one i just saw attached to root= ?
[23:52] <escott> MissVera, yes
[23:53] <lolly> i was asking before can i use newest version for live cd if i already have another version installed on notebook
[23:53] <L3top> lolly: the newest one would be quantal.
[23:53] <L3top> the current offical release is 1204 lts
[23:54] <lolly> yeah dat one
[23:54] <MissVera> escott, Yup, it matches
[23:55] <escott> MissVera, ok. lets try another reboot then :) if we get the root up i may leave you to someone else for the inevitable video issues
[23:55] <L3top> Are we still using a 3 yr old iso/syslinux?
[23:57] <MissVera> during boot it took me directly to grub, even though I didnt push shift?
[23:57] <escott> MissVera, thats fine
[23:57] <jvdz> Can anyone point me in the direction of an encrypted file/directory/user-home system where by default the keys are not on the system? E.g. I have a VPS, want to store documents on it. ~/Documents is only unlocked when I (exchange a key over SSH?) unlock it
[23:58] <MissVera> escott, so far, no error screen, and no black screen with a cursor.....    so far its loading it..
[23:58] <MissVera> IT LOADED
[23:58] <escott> jvdz, you could keep your ecryptfs keys on removable media
[23:58] <lolly> i dunno bro, my uncle gaved me his shitty notebook with ubuntu installed on it and said fix it i want win7 on my notebook, i said ok np, i dunno what is version of his ubuntu and so on, all i want is to change type of hard disk on NTFS so i can install dat win7
[23:59] <L3top> !cookie | escott
[23:59] <jvdz> escott: Ecrypt… I will have to look into that.
[23:59] <MissVera> lmao
[23:59] <escott> L3top, thanks!