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[00:09] <bazhang> troll detected
[00:17] <BarkingFish> Evening guys.  I'm speaking to someone at the moment about an Ubuntu install they were doing, and someone in #ubuntu gave this gent misinformation, which lead to him winding up cancelling his install.  Is there any way you can keep an eye on this stuff please?
[00:17] <BarkingFish> Someone told him he'd have to compile ndiswrapper (presumably from source)
[00:17] <bazhang> what nick
[00:18] <BarkingFish> the guy can't recall at the moment, but he says that the user isn't on right now
[00:18] <bazhang> ok thanks BarkingFish
[00:18] <BarkingFish> but apparently he was answering dang near every question which came up in the channel
[00:19] <BarkingFish> i've asked the user concerned that if he spots this person again, to let me know please. As soon as I find out, bazhang, i'll pass him onto you
[00:19] <bazhang> great thanks
[00:20] <BarkingFish> got it, bazhang - he's just told me it was someone called ActionParsnip
[00:20] <bazhang> BarkingFish, and the nick of the user being helped?
[00:20] <BarkingFish> Athleek123
[00:20] <bazhang> ok
[00:32] <bazhang> BarkingFish, thanks for the report; if there's nothing else, please dont idle here
[00:33] <BarkingFish> oops
[00:33] <BarkingFish> Sorry, bazhang - I'll head out
[00:33] <BarkingFish> thanks again
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[01:16] <Tasmania> Hello can I please be unbanned from #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:17] <bazhang> why were you banned there in the first place
[01:17] <Tasmania> For not shutting up about SOPA when I was warned to stop.
[01:19] <Tasmania> I was repeatedly told to stop pressing the issue, but I continued to do so.
[01:22] <bazhang> !guidelines | Tasmania please have a read
[01:22] <bazhang> !coc | Tasmania and this please
[01:22] <Tasmania> Ok.
[02:04] <bazhang> Tasmania, have you read those documents linked here yet?
[02:04] <Tasmania> I'm not done.
[02:05] <bazhang> ok
[02:06] <Tasmania> I will have to go over them multiple times, till it has rendered in my brain.
[02:07] <Tasmania> As for now I'm leaving.
[02:09] <elky> He's done this a few times now, yes?
[02:10] <elky> Always pinging me in PM overnight too
[02:10] <elky> this morning it was at 3am
[02:10] <bazhang> yeah, he just did the same in PM with me
[02:30] <Tasmania> Alright, I've read everything and looked over it.
[02:31] <Tasmania> I'm ready for whatever's coming to me.
[02:39] <Tasmania> I'm finished with everything.
[02:40] <mneptok> Tasmania: you understand the Code of Contact and IRC Guidelines?
[02:40] <IdleOne> Conduct*
[02:40] <mneptok> blah
[02:40] <Tasmania> Yes, I understand.
[02:40] <mneptok> fingetrs on autopilot
[02:41] <Tasmania> I've taken the time to look over them.
[02:41] <mneptok> Tasmania: also understand, this channel is for business related to ops in Ubuntu channels.
[02:41] <Tasmania> Alright, thanks.
[02:41] <Tasmania> I privmsg an op and they told me to ask in this chatroom.
[02:41] <mneptok> Tasmania: PMing individuals is not the solution. that's why this channel exists.
[02:42] <Tasmania> I know....now.
[02:42] <mneptok> exactly.
[02:42] <mneptok> and now you know why
[02:42] <Tasmania> Yes.
[02:42] <mneptok> OK, one mo'
[02:42] <Tasmania> I'm listening.
[02:44] <mneptok> i have unbanned you from #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:44] <mneptok> please follow the same rules we expect of everyone, and be aware that there are limitations to what goes on even in -offtopic
[02:45] <Tasmania> Affirmative.
[02:45] <mneptok> if there is nothing else, please do not forget your riding gloves on your way out.
[02:46] <Tasmania> Can I leave this channel now
[02:46] <mneptok> yes, please.
[02:46] <Tasmania> ok.
[02:46] <mneptok> aaaaaaaand back to TV
[14:15] <bazhang> that's kav in -ot
[14:18] <bazhang> * r00t_ (~r00t@85.17.31.98)  that was pretty horrible
[14:20] <ikonia> isn't kav banned ?
[14:21] <bazhang> just kicked iirc
[14:21] <ikonia> ok
[15:58]  * Myrtti twitches
[15:59] <IdleOne> Myrtti: I'm gussing you are twitching for a good reason
[15:59] <IdleOne> guessing also
[15:59] <Myrtti> it has a typo on it :-(
[15:59] <Myrtti> Tm_T: is the kubuntu channel alive enough to warrant the factoid?
[16:13] <Tm_T> yes
[16:14] <Tm_T> occasionally it's more active than finnish ubuntu channel (:
[16:19] <Tm_T> !kubuntu-#ubuntu-fi is <reply> Kubuntu on Ubuntun rinnakkaisjakelu, joka käyttää KDE-ohjelmistoja ja KDE Plasma työtiloja. Katso http://kubuntu.org/ saadaksesi lisätietoa. - Saadaksesi tukea, liity kanavalle #kubuntu-fi - Katso myös !kde
[16:20] <Tm_T> !kde-#ubuntu-fi is <reply> KDE (http://kde.org) on avoin yhteisö, joka luo ja ylläpitää ohjelmistoja sisältäen muunmuassa Plasma työpöydän. Asentaaksesi Ubuntuun: « sudo apt-get install  kubuntu-desktop », tai katso http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE - Lisätietoa löydät osoitteesta http://kubuntu.org
[16:20] <Myrtti> the kubuntu one has a typo
[16:20] <genii-around> What is the gist of that?
[16:20] <Myrtti> KDE Plasma -työtiloja
[16:20] <Myrtti> or KDE Plasma-työtiloja
[16:21] <Myrtti> whichever
[16:21] <Myrtti> Plasma-työpöydän
[16:21] <Tm_T> Myrtti: bah, I forgot that after changing something else
[16:21] <Myrtti> I'm not sure about the "sinä-passiivi" either
[16:22] <Myrtti> makes me twitch
[16:22] <Tm_T> ubottu: no, kubuntu-#ubuntu-fi is <reply> Kubuntu on Ubuntun rinnakkaisjakelu, joka käyttää KDE-ohjelmistoja ja KDE Plasma -työpöytäympäristöä. Katso http://kubuntu.org/ saadaksesi lisätietoa. - Saadaksesi tukea, liity kanavalle #kubuntu-fi - Katso myös !kde
[16:23] <Tm_T> I need coffee, can't read properly
[16:23] <Myrtti> besides
[16:23] <Myrtti> hm, nevermind
[16:23] <Tm_T> ubottu: no, kde-#ubuntu-fi is <reply> KDE (http://kde.org) on avoin yhteisö, joka luo ja ylläpitää ohjelmistoja sisältäen muunmuassa Plasma-työpöydän. Asentaaksesi Ubuntuun: « sudo apt-get install  kubuntu-desktop », tai katso http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE - Lisätietoa löytyy osoitteesta http://kubuntu.org
[16:24] <Tm_T> a tad bit better, thanks Myrtti for input
[16:34]  * genii-around slides Tm_T a coffee
[16:56] <IdleOne> Why do people go and download single packages from packages.ubuntu.com?
[16:57] <Pici> Because it has a link to download them.
[16:58] <IdleOne> last i checked there is a message about also downloading the depends
[16:58] <genii-around> "because they can"
[16:58] <IdleOne> or maybe there isn't
[16:59] <IdleOne> genii-around: I can climb a coconut tree. I buy my coconuts at the store
[17:00] <bkerensa> IdleOne: they download them there because they do no realize its for developers
[17:00] <bkerensa> =/
[17:01] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: Well that's uninteresting. If I had cocnut trees newar me I would most definitely climb them.
[17:01] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: I also have a fear of falling down and dying.
[17:01] <IdleOne> more so the dying part
[17:02] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: Make yourself a harness. You give up too easily (or you're not as interested in climbing things as I am :)
[17:02] <IdleOne> hehe
[18:56] <Shano56> hi
[18:58] <LjL> hi Shano56
[18:58] <Shano56> I'm looking to appeal my ban from #ubuntu
[18:59] <LjL> Shano56: are you sure there is a ban? i only see a kick
[19:00] <Shano56> Pretty sure
[19:01] <Shano56> I was banned 1-2 weeks ago
[19:01] <Shano56> I thought it was lifted, turned out my IP was changed so then I got accused of "ban evading"
[19:01] <LjL> uhm
[19:02] <Shano56> I believe bazhang was the one who set the ban
[19:03] <LjL> ah i see it
[19:04] <Shano56> Sweet
[19:06] <LjL> Shano56: can you explain what you did that got you banned?
[19:07] <Shano56> Yes, here is the log > http://pastie.org/4140212
[19:07] <Shano56> Please let me know if you need any further info
[19:07] <IdleOne> Shano56: have you actually tried to join #ubuntu?
[19:08] <Shano56> Yeah I'm not actually banned right now (i can connect), but I've since had to hard reset my modem and router, and my ISP did something due to network problems
[19:09] <Shano56> Which is why bazhang accused me of ban evading, here's the log if you wanna see > http://pastie.org/4140147
[19:09] <LjL> Shano56: i'd just like you to have a read of our guidelines and various other tidbits of information from the bot, so we're a bit clearer on the acceptable behavior in #ubuntu
[19:09] <Shano56> oh and I'm on a different computer than what I was banned on, not sure if that makes a difference
[19:09] <LjL> !etiquette > Shano56
[19:10] <LjL> Shano56: aside from that, i'd say you're free to rejoin
[19:10] <Shano56> Okay LjL, I will read now. thank you.
[19:12] <Shano56> Can I leave this channel now?
[19:12] <IdleOne> just a moment please
[19:12] <Shano56> Okay
[19:16] <IdleOne> !guidelines
[19:16] <IdleOne> !codeofconduct
[19:17] <IdleOne> Shano56: Please have a good read of the above links at your leisure. You should be able to join #ubuntu now. Have a good day. Hope we don't see you in here again :)
[19:17] <Shano56> Thank you IdleOne , apologies for my poor behaviour before, won't happen again! ;)
[19:17] <IdleOne> No worries. We all have bad days
[19:18] <Shano56> Indeed, see you :)
[19:28] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu-ops Shano56 wasn't sure whether he could rejoin; he was asked to read the guidelines etc and he agreed to do that and avoid unbecoming behaviors in the future.
[20:38] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: is that your backup client in #u?
[20:39] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: Yes.
[20:39] <IdleOne> k :)
[20:39] <IdleOne> Glad I asked before removing it
[20:39] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: This client is my home machine, and the lag is sometimes unbearable.
[20:40] <Jordan_U> I can't evensee what I'm typing while I'm typing it!
[20:40] <IdleOne> that is bad
[23:20] <mneptok> bioterror: how can we help?
[23:23] <bioterror> mneptok, you could start with fixing that server ;)
[23:24] <bioterror> seems like the closest one is not always the most stable :P
[23:24] <mneptok> bioterror: what server are you talking about?
[23:24] <bioterror> rajaniemi.freenode.net
[23:25] <mneptok> bioterror: if services are slow, i cannot help. Freenode continues its tradition of excellence with no o: line for me.
[23:25] <Myrtti> we actually don't specifically recommend connecting to the closest server
[23:26] <Myrtti> the connection speeds are so good these days that the difference you get with connecting to the geologically closest versus our normal irc.freenode.net alias of several servers in rotation is marginal at best
[23:27] <Myrtti> actually using irc.freenode is better as our sponsors do take servers down for maintenance and then using irc.freenode is your best bet
[23:28] <knome> isn't that chat. nowadays?
[23:28] <bioterror> yes, we have this chat with "rooms" nowdays
[23:29] <knome> no, i mean the default connection address
[23:29] <Myrtti> could be, I don't bother with learning all the aliases and servernames, chat probably is right
[23:29] <knome> " Please be aware that the below list is at no time authoritative, and as such our advice is to connect using chat.freenode.net. "
[23:29] <Myrtti> or rather, haven't bothered yet
[23:29] <knome> well there you go
[23:30] <knome> " Our main server rotation is chat.freenode.net. "
[23:30] <knome> that too ;)
[23:30] <Myrtti> life is a bugger, keeps me from learning freenode website from the heart, and that damned dax changes it every day too!
[23:30] <Myrtti> ♥
[23:30] <knome> ;)
[23:31]  * Myrtti returns reading her Assassins's Creed book
[23:32] <dax> irc.freenode.net is a CNAME to chat.freenode.net, so they're both the same basically. This has been the case for a long time :P
[23:33] <Myrtti> SEE! I'm not talking all bull!
[23:33]  * Myrtti really goes back to her book
[23:33] <knome> i used irc. previously too, but since the website says chat.... ;)
[23:33] <dax> but yeah, we recommend one of those and not anything else. the individual servers can go down for maintenance, and the regional rotations aren't up to date (except .au, which isn't hard to keep up to date :P)
[23:34] <knome> yeah, just hard to keep up to time since the timezone difference
[23:34] <knome> ;)
[23:35] <Myrtti> knome: oh come on, you think people ever change their irssi configs? I had irssi config entry for freenode virtually untouched since I registered here until staffdom ;-)
[23:35] <knome> i do...
[23:35] <Myrtti> weirdo.
[23:35] <knome> yeah, but that goes without saying
[23:36] <mneptok> knome: if you pick at it, it will never heal.
[23:37] <knome> ;)
[23:37] <knome> i'm off.
[23:37] <knome> see you later! :)
[23:38] <mneptok> date with friends to compare ~/.irssi/config files?