[00:00] <MissVera> Okay. It has me wanting to log in, and to choose between Xubuntu and xfce... Which is new. And, doesnt want to take my password.   Guh.
[00:00] <jvdz> escott: Really, in my scenario, I'd have local mac (with FS encryption), and I'd like to ssh-rsync to a remote VPS
[00:00] <escott> jvdz, most encryption systems will let you keep the key elsewhere. its not necessarily going to be easy to do, but it can surely be done
[00:00] <RyuGuns> I'm installing some stuff, however, I forgot what type of processor I have, how do I tell?
[00:00] <jvdz> escott: During that rsync, I'd have to mount my remote directory (using encrypt I'd presume); once completed, it would be unmounted. Is that the general approach?
[00:00] <escott> jvdz, why not just do the rsync on ciphertext?
[00:01] <ghostchick> RyuGuns,  uname -a
[00:01] <RyuGuns> Into the terminal?
[00:01] <dioms> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[00:01] <escott> jvdz, unless you need to read the files on the VPS, why let the VPS ever see plaintext?
[00:01] <jvdz> escott: Pardon, I don't know what that is.
[00:01] <RyuGuns> Thanks, ghostchick!
[00:02] <escott> jvdz, you want encrypted files on the VPS. why not encrypt them locally, and then rsync the encrypted files?
[00:02] <roadster> Is it possible to make my Ubuntu look like this? I really like the way this looks. www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WnaZL3ARN0
[00:03] <escott> MissVera, you can fix the password by selecting recovery mode from the boot and typing passwd username where "username" is your username
[00:03] <roadster> What kind of desktop is that?
[00:04] <jvdz> escott: By local encrypt, do you mean like openSSL encrypting the local files?
[00:04] <asus1025c> i followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1953734&page=10 (POST #94)  and i can confirm my hdmi port works. now. i can confirm that i can watch  480p films with vlc/smplayer on  my 32INCH LCD TV. No problems encountered
[00:04] <asus1025c> By the way my netbook is ASUS 1025C Atom N2800  Intel Graphics GMA3650 running jxself's compiled 3.4.4 on Trisquel GNU/Linux 5.5
[00:05] <asus1025c> Trisquel GNU/Linux 5.5  is based on Ubuntu 11.10
[00:05] <escott> jvdz, whatever method you want. unless you need to be able to edit the files on the VPS. i would never expose the VPS to plaintext. encrypt it with whatever method you want. gpg/ecryptfs etc and put the encrypted files on the VPS directly. rsync wont care that the files are binary.
[00:05] <MissVera> escott, I went through recovery and now I've got a menu? resume, clean, dpkg, fsck, grub, network, root, system-summary ?
[00:05] <asus1025c> My netbook supports 1024x600  @24bit colour and I am currently displaying my desktop on my 32inch LCD TV  at 1280x1024 @24 bit colour...   and all of that using 100% free software! No blobs and no meego closed source crap!
[00:05] <escott> MissVera, "root"
[00:06] <MissVera> I cant believe its been so long since i installed, I forgot what i passworded the damn thing as
[00:06] <aguitel> in gome terminal appears only black screen ,why ?
[00:06] <MissVera> escott, so  root@localhost:~#
[00:06] <escott> MissVera, passwd username
[00:07] <asus1025c> so are there any people here who happen to own an Intel Atom N2800 netbook who is willing to share their experiences regarding hdmi and video display on BIG LCD TV
[00:07] <asus1025c> s
[00:07] <MissVera> user does not exist... fml
[00:07] <asus1025c> so are there any people here who happen to own an Intel Atom N2800 netbook who is willing to share their experiences regarding hdmi and video display on BIG LCD TV  screens?
[00:07] <ghostchick> MissVera,  don't type username
[00:08] <MissVera> I didnt. I typed in what I though i had named their profile.
[00:08] <escott> MissVera, "username" should be your username whatever you set it as
[00:08] <Fedora1> I have a big problem!!!!
[00:08] <ghostchick> what appears under /home?
[00:08] <MissVera> In fact, Im certain of what i named it, and it's not working... So. I dont know.
[00:08] <Jordan_U> escott: They can find the username with "ls /home/".
[00:08] <Fedora1> whose in charge?
[00:09] <MissVera> lol
[00:09] <aguitel> in gome terminal appears only black screen no line to write
[00:09] <Jordan_U> Fedora1: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[00:10] <MissVera> Jordan_U if I typed that where i am, and it didnt do anything.  unless, thats something I'm supposed to put in terminal...
[00:11] <Jordan_U> MissVera: "ls /home/" is something you would enter into the terminal.
[00:12] <MissVera> Jordan_U so, if i cant log in, how do i get to terminal?
[00:12] <mvid> has anyone had any luck installing ubuntu on the samsung chromeBOX
[00:12] <ghostchick> ctrl +alt +f 1
[00:12] <escott> MissVera, you are in a terminal. a root one
[00:14] <PapaSmurf007> I'm trying to win an arguement, can someone give me some ideas for the "benefits of working for free to develop open source software"
[00:14] <IdleOne> !ot | PapaSmurf007
[00:14] <MissVera> ls home did nothing. ghostchick had me try cd /home/   and then ls -a  and in the next line all it gave me were blue dots :/
[00:14] <PapaSmurf007> oh ok, i'll take it elsewhere
[00:15] <lolly> so can anyone help?
[00:16] <escott> MissVera, whatever you used to install screwed up a lot of stuff. never got the bootloader installed, didnt make the initrd, and evidently never created the user account
[00:16] <MissVera> lol
[00:16] <MissVera> Figured something like that
[00:17] <escott> MissVera, "grep 1000 /etc/passwd" just to make sure it didnt create the user
[00:18] <MissVera> escott, didnt do anything.
[00:19] <escott> MissVera, then "adduser <username>"
[00:19] <neteffect> hi
[00:19] <escott> MissVera, that should create /home/username
[00:20] <escott> then you can "passwd <username>"
[00:20] <melontrolly> Does anyone know how to run a command when usb device is plugged in using udev? Any help would be appreciated http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11302684/run-something-when-usb-device-is-plugged-in-doesnt-work
[00:21] <escott> and finally you will want to make that user an administrator. not sure what version of ubuntu this was. if it is 12.04 run "usermod -a -G sudo <username>" for other versions run "usermod -a -G admin <username>"
[00:21] <escott> at least i think its admin
[00:21] <MissVera> escott,  adding new group 'lon' (1001) ...      groupadd: cannot lock /etc/group; try again later.    adduser: '/usr/sbin/groupadd -g 1001 lon' returned error code 10. Exiting.
[00:21] <MissVera> escott, i could never add a user. hh
[00:22] <escott> MissVera, something has locked /etc/group. i dont know what it would be or how to clear it. probably got locked by the original installer before it ran into trouble
[00:23] <escott> MissVera, maybe the fuser command can clear the lock, but i dont know what the command would be. and im a bit too tired at this point
[00:23] <escott> goodluck :)
[00:25] <ghostchick> escott,  Congratulation though you debugged the hardest part
[00:25] <MissVera> Aye.  Thanks a lot escott.  Ive been stuck on this for about a day and a half.
[00:25] <escott> ghostchick, it wasn't so much debugging as just doing stupid things that are usually done automatically. had i known to look for these issues from the start it would have been easy
[00:27] <escott> MissVera, im almost tempted to tell you to just reinstall. we know the hardware can work. we just need the installer to not chock in the middle of the install
[00:27] <escott> choke
[00:27] <ki7rw> oh man! i used rsync to back up my server drive and everything was backed up except for my home movies - they are lost forever - i will never use rsync again
[00:27] <MissVera> escott.... Wouldnt I have to do all of that all over again?
[00:28] <escott> MissVera, if the installer doesn't blow up halfway through the customization no we wouldn't. its clear the installer just crashed in the middle. it didn't do any of the final steps to make the system usable
[00:28] <rinzler> Installed 12.04 on my Dell Precision  m70, and when I'm on battery, the left speaker clicks incessantly... any ideas on how to stop it?
[00:28] <escott> ki7rw, that would be a silly response
[00:29] <MissVera> escott, it never crashed though. It continued, and then loaded the OS. No indication of any problems, until i rebooted and had a blackscreen with a cursor
[00:29] <ki7rw> i mean it! it's an unreliable piece of crap!
[00:30] <escott> !language | ki7rw
[00:30] <ki7rw> kiss off
[00:30] <escott> rather than being frustrated and lashing out at the software you might ask for help on how to use rsync properly
[00:31] <escott> MissVera, im worried that you fix up the user account and then find that something else in the install failed...
[00:31] <escott> MissVera, you might be better off doing a fresh install from vanilla xubuntu
[00:32] <evie_hammond> ki7rw: if you use the -n switch it does a dry run and shows you what it will do
[00:32] <Meep> When I watch flash or there's any sort of flash ad banners on a webpage, my laptop will periodically just shut down.
[00:32] <escott> MissVera, worst case it fails again in the same way and you know that (A) you need to install grub, (b) make initrds (c) update-grub (d) create user accounts ...
[00:32] <Meep> Help?
[00:32] <escott> MissVera, and you can do that all in one chroot without all the intervening reboots
[00:32] <escott> MissVera, would take 15minutes if you know what to do
[00:33] <rinzler> Installed 12.04 on my Dell Precision  m70, and when I'm on battery, the left speaker clicks incessantly... any ideas on how to stop it?
[00:33] <MissVera> escott, keyphrase, if i knew what to do
[00:34] <escott> MissVera, yeah but you tell someone in channel that you need to do these things and they can walk you through it
[00:34] <escott> you've done chroot 3 times now. at some point it becomes muscle memory
[00:34] <escott> figuring out what to do is 80% fo the battle
[00:35] <Athleek123> Hi, yesterday I was having trouble with a FATAL: ndiswrapper module not found, and I was told I had to compile ndiswrapper.  I ended up deleting ubuntu with the hope that reinstalling would help, but before I reinstall I want to make sure there is someone knowledgeable who can help me prevent the error from appearing again
[00:36] <bazhang> Athleek123, you suggested that you needed to compile it, by some third party guide
[00:36] <bazhang> Athleek123, install ndisgtk as suggested at the time if you must use it
[00:37] <Athleek123> bazhang i believe it was an ubuntu guide, and I was asking whether or not the guide was correct; I was told it was correct
[00:37] <Athleek123> ndisgtk didn't install for some reason
[00:37] <bazhang> Athleek123, the channel logs indicate otherwise
[00:38] <bazhang> Athleek123, what was the reason for ndisgtk not installing properly, give us the exact error message
[00:38] <Athleek123> i remember actionparsnip saying something like, I guess you'll have to compile then
[00:38] <Kinter> hi
[00:38] <escott> MissVera, i don't really see a downside in trying to get a good install. i do see a downside in trying to identify/fix the unknown unknowns of a partial install
[00:38] <bazhang> Athleek123, from a guide you suggested.
[00:39] <bazhang> Athleek123, please provide the exact errors on the ndisgtk issue
[00:39] <Athleek123> bazhang well i guess I put it the wrong way because I was trying to see if the guide was correct
[00:39] <solidus-lake> hey, i was wondering how i can enable the testing repositories but only allow certain packages from them
[00:39] <solidus-lake> for example i want gimp 2.8
[00:40] <Athleek123> bazhang and i dont remember exactly, but it was really general, like ndisgtk couldn't install: errors
[00:40] <solidus-lake> but i dont want to use some 3rd party repo for it and im guessing in unstable they have a pkg for it
[00:40] <bazhang> Athleek123, the exact error message from failed ndisgrk install please
[00:40] <MissVera> escott, you and ghostchick are the only people who've stuck with me through problems, Im definitely not reinstalling if you two are going offline.  I mean. So far, it seems only the user issue is there.
[00:40] <Athleek123> bazhang i dont have it
[00:40] <Athleek123> bazhang in software center it said it needed python-glade2
[00:40] <bazhang> Athleek123, try to install it now and pastebin the errors
[00:40] <bazhang> !paste | Athleek123
[00:41] <Athleek123> ^" I ended up deleting ubuntu with the hope that reinstalling would help"
[00:41] <Athleek123> ^deleting'
[00:41] <neteffect> the vmware player is kinda slow but it really does a good job runnign this ubuntu install wow
[00:41] <Athleek123> and idk how to get python-glade2
[00:42] <solidus-lake> anyone can inform me how to use a whiltelist for some testing packages?
[00:42] <escott> MissVera, i would give the channel more credit. i've seen a lot of the guys in channel battle through some crazy stuff. you bring to them a clear concise explanation of what happens and ask for the commands you need to run and they will certainly help. bazhang, ActionParsnip, holstein, etc. they all know the steps
[00:43] <solidus-lake> jesus, really, no one here knows apt that well eh?
[00:43] <solidus-lake> interesting
[00:44] <IdleOne> !patience
[00:44] <escott> solidus-lake, be patient. channel has gone quiet the last hour or so
[00:44] <MissVera> escott, im going to try two things, and if it doesnt work, i'll fresh install and I'll try to save this entire conversation so i know what sort of help to ask for when/if i need it
[00:44] <rinzler> Installed 12.04 on my Dell Precision  m70, and when I'm on battery, the left speaker clicks incessantly... any ideas on how to stop it?
[00:45] <Athleek123> bazhang: Errors were encountered while processing ndisgtk.
[00:45] <escott> !logs | MissVera
[00:45] <solidus-lake> does ubuntu have a backports?
[00:45] <IdleOne> yes
[00:45] <MissVera> !seppuku
[00:45] <MissVera> Oh darn
[00:45] <IdleOne> solidus-lake: you can enable them via Software Sources
[00:45] <bazhang> MissVera, dont do that
[00:46] <MissVera> bazhang, sense of humor. Calm down.
[00:46] <Athleek123> bazhang^
[00:46] <excelsior> What's the downside(s) of doing an in-place upgrade from 10.10 to 12.04?
[00:46] <bazhang> MissVera, wrong place for it. /msg ubottu
[00:47] <excelsior> !ot
[00:47] <IdleOne> excelsior: not advisable. it will break. you need to follow the upgrade process. see /msg ubottu !upgrade
[00:47] <MissVera> bazhang, it's the wrong place to express a sense of humor? Didnt realize there was a proper place. Especially after battling distros for a week as a recent windows convert. But.  Okie doke.
[00:48] <randomDude> i have a 12.04 desktop that users loginto via ldap.... printer settings management thingo won't let them stop print jobs
[00:48] <Athleek123> bazhang is mad at me
[00:48] <MissVera> I think he's just mad period. :x
[00:48] <Athleek123> :S ya
[00:48] <IdleOne> MissVera: We try to keep this channel strictly for support. We do have a off topic channel were jokes are greatly appreciated #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:49] <MissVera> IdleOne, no one speaks in there. Besides.98% of what i say is support related. Pardon a slip.
[00:49] <IdleOne> MissVera: no worries. :)
[00:49] <Datatsream111> Someone wanna give me some installition support quick?
[00:50] <randomDude> any idea why none sudo users are unable to stop print jobs in Settings > Printers > [Select Printer] > Show Jobs > [Select Print Job] > <Click Stop Icon> ?
[00:50] <alankila> MissVera: pro tip: embed your jokes as part of the advice and steer clear of anything that has even a whiff of controversy. (End-of-offtopic-advice.)
[00:50] <escott> randomDude, are the members of lpadmin?
[00:50] <randomDude> escott: probably not.
[00:51] <randomDude> escott: same problem as this person : http://askubuntu.com/questions/87600/printer-jobs-can-not-be-stopped
[00:51] <escott> randomDude, make them. i wouldn't expect cups to check if they were members of sudo
[00:51] <Datatsream111> Does it normally take 2 hours plus on a blank screen for ubuntu to be installed as single operating system?
[00:51] <rinzler> Datatsream111: specific questions are more appreciated here. what's up?
[00:51] <randomDude> escott: one would would think that if they weren't the guhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/87600/printer-jobs-can-not-be-stoppedi would popup a warning saying as much
[00:52]  * randomDude rages
[00:52] <rinzler> Datatsream111: at what stage of the installation?
[00:53] <escott> randomDude, the simplification of the gnome-system-settings dialogs have broken a lot of things
[00:53] <randomDude> escott: including basic logic of the universe
[00:54] <Datatsream111> rinzler: Just after choose the system to be single operating system as opposed to duel boot or custom setup, I've been on a blank screen with the loading cursor for two hours and I don't know if the OS is even installing
[00:54] <excelsior> IdleOne: thanks for the recommendation. Is there a way to preserve my music and video collection without having to using cloud storage, since my net connection is a bit slow?
[00:54] <neteffect> wow my ubuntu on this vm player is slow oh well
[00:55] <rinzler> Datatsream111: it seems like your computer is having a hard time processing the whole desktop thing plus the installer. have you tried the alternate installer?
[00:56] <rinzler> Datatsream111: it's very low graphics, so it's usually easier on a system...
[00:56] <Datatsream111> rinzler: not at all. I'm worried a hard shutdown in this stage would botch somthing up.
[00:57] <IdleOne> excelsior: sorry, what recommendation was that?
[00:57] <excelsior> full install versus upgrade
[00:57] <excelsior> instead of upgrade
[00:58] <rinzler> Datatsream111: if you were going to wipe the drive and start with ubuntu, you wouldn't loose anything that wouldn't be replaced by a clean install.
[00:58] <ghostchick> excelsior,  you can also create a partion for your medias
[00:58] <jburkholder> hey, anyone have a second?
[00:58] <excelsior> what's the recommended way to do that? I'm using an encrypted drive at the moment.
[00:58] <bz> man parted
[00:58] <Datatsream111> rinzler: Alright, then I'll try that out. Thanks for the help!
[00:58] <bz> man fdisk
[00:58] <jburkholder> I'm missing one
[00:59] <rinzler> Datatsream111: no problem. Been in the same boat myself :P
[01:00] <Loshki> excelsior: how many GB is your collection?
[01:01] <excelsior> ghostchick: I've done partitioning before, but I'm unsure which steps to take. I'm sure my collection is more than 250GB out of a 500GB hard drive.
[01:01] <excelsior> I'm whittling down what I can do without, but still, it's annoying.
[01:02] <Rokon> Does anyone know if it will be possible to update Windows 7 to windows 8 without messing up grub2 and my ubuntu dual boot?
[01:02] <ghostchick> excelsior,  gparted, and well the size means it will be slow
[01:03] <excelsior> actually, I managed to get it less than 250 GB now.
[01:03] <rinzler> Rokon: If you ask me, I wouldn't use Windows 8 unless my life depended on it :P
[01:03] <ghostchick> Rokon,  look at easybcd in windows, but as for the setup it do not think it will be possible
[01:03] <Loshki> excelsior: I think the cheapest, most practical way to back up 250GB is via an external usb drive
[01:04] <rinzler> Rokon: yeah, windows has been notorius for having a distructive install
[01:04] <excelsior> Yeah, but I just don't wanna...
[01:05] <rinzler> Rokon: try this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:05] <Loshki> excelsior: well, you asked...
[01:06] <excelsior> I want to do the partition approach, but the drive is encrypted, what all will I need? Is the live boot thumbdrive enough?
[01:06] <don> hello all
[01:06] <don> my 1st time here
[01:06] <don> ^^
[01:06] <don> ubuntu is awesome!
[01:07] <Rokon> thanks rinzler, I'll check it out
[01:07] <Guest19839> how to register
[01:07] <eph3meral> is there GTK+ equivalent to xman ?
[01:07] <Guest19839> my name Rokon?
[01:07] <rinzler> Rokon: this one might be helpful too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot#Installing_Windows_After_Ubuntu
[01:07] <ghostchick> excelsior,  normally any ubuntu/linux modern live cd   should be ok
[01:08] <excelsior> ok, well I have it, is there a checklist, or recommended tutorial?
[01:08] <rinzler> Guest19839: go ask in #freenode. They'll help you there..
[01:08] <Guest19839> sry, twas my first time here
[01:08] <escott> Rokon, probably not, but you can just reinstall grub after windows eats the mbr
[01:09] <Rokon> kk
[01:09] <Rokon> that sounds fine
[01:09] <Rokon> I'm not activly installing windows
[01:09] <Rokon> I'm just researching before hand
[01:09] <escott> Rokon, just make sure you have a bootable livecd/liveusb of the same architecture
[01:10] <Salacious> hey peeps I get a permission not allowed on php doing a chmod on an apache server running on 12.04. how do I allow php to do chmod's? (its local host no security threat)
[01:10] <Salacious> sorry it was operation not permitted
[01:11] <rhizmoe> run the webserver as a user with permissions
[01:11] <Salacious> how do you do that?
[01:11] <Salacious> or can you link me to docs
[01:12] <blackshirt> what you mean?
[01:12] <rhizmoe> httpd.conf has a "user" configuration parameter
[01:12] <rhizmoe> it determines what user account the webserver runs under
[01:13] <Salacious> still gonna need docs for commands to pass into the terminal. sorry guys, when it comes to apache i am a newb
[01:13] <KrisKustomPaint> I need some help getting the sta drivers working on a dell d620
[01:13] <blackshirt> apache was run under www-data user
[01:15] <KrisKustomPaint> i went through the terminal stuff your suposed to do and that all went fine until i went to go to the additional drivers and activate the driver and there was nothing there
[01:16] <n1ckn4me09876543> I put lxpanel in StartUp Applications and it started fine when I reboot, now I wanted it to wait 15 seconds so I put: sleep 15 && lxpanel   in the Command, now lxpanel doesnt start at all, what am I doing wrong?
[01:17] <Salacious> still not understanding how to tell apache to run as me guys sorry.
[01:17] <icecube45> okay, so
[01:17] <icecube45> my computer is having some problems
[01:18] <icecube45> im trying to host a minecraft server on it, it is configured correctly, and set outside of my routers firewall
[01:18] <icecube45> yet something seems to be blocking incoming connections
[01:18] <icecube45> for tools such as canyouseeme.org say the port it closed
[01:19] <blackshirt> salacious, exactly i don't know what you need
[01:19] <bz> icecube45: check from localhost
[01:19] <icecube45> bz, i can connect fine using localhost
[01:19] <icecube45> and using the internal ip
[01:19] <bz> icecube45: then it's your router
[01:19] <Salacious> blackshirt, in php you can do chmod, well I get operation not permitted
[01:19] <icecube45> im set outside my firewall
[01:19] <icecube45> this only occurs with ubuntu
[01:19] <icecube45> my windows computers dont have this problem
[01:19] <icecube45> can anything be blocking the connection
[01:19] <bz> icecube45: what address are you listening on?
[01:20] <icecube45> its port 25565
[01:20] <bz> address, not port
[01:20] <blackshirt> okey,
[01:20] <icecube45> like my public ip?
[01:20] <bz> like what address is it listening on?
[01:20] <icecube45> 192.168.2.7
[01:20] <icecube45> it should be
[01:21] <CIDR> Just can't get diablo 3 playable in wine
[01:21] <bz> so maybe listen on 0.0.0.0
[01:21] <icecube45> i set the config not to bind to an ip
[01:21] <blackshirt> I think apache on ubuntu was running as a normal user...ie, www-data user,
[01:21] <icecube45> so it becomes flexable
[01:21] <bz> so, 0.0.0.0 is what you want
[01:21] <icecube45> ill try
[01:21] <icecube45> then check back in
[01:21] <rinzler> icecube45: check your router's port forwarding.
[01:21] <icecube45> rinzler
[01:21] <rinzler> ?
[01:21] <icecube45> im set outside my firewall
[01:21] <bz> rinzler: scroll up, got nothing to do with forwarding
[01:22] <rinzler> bz: I don't see why?
[01:22] <icecube45> 0.0.0.0 right?
[01:22] <bz> wesh
[01:22] <icecube45> i cant scroll up in weechat
[01:23] <daniel_6684> Good day. I have a question about the Heads-Up Display on my 12.04 LTS....
[01:23] <rinzler> if canyouseeme.com can't see you, it's cause his public device isn't listening and passing packets. correct?
[01:23] <icecube45> bz, launching now
[01:23] <bz> icecube45: gogogogo
[01:23] <lolly> someone knows how to use disk?
[01:23] <lolly> fdisk*
[01:23] <ghostchick> lolly,  what you need to do?
[01:24] <icecube45> bz, bootedup, canyouseeme cant see me
[01:24] <bz> lolly: if you need to ask, you prolly shouldn't mess with it
[01:24] <daniel_6684> Whenever I try to go looking for applications, I hit my <ALT> key and it appears, but there are no applications whatsoever on my HUD, so where are they?
[01:24] <icecube45> bz, should i possibly post my netstat -ltn?
[01:24] <lolly> to create NTFS so i can install win7
[01:24] <bz> icecube45: sure
[01:24] <ghostchick> lolly,  use gparted
[01:24] <bz> icecube45: i assume that the server's running on the same machine you're typing on right now?
[01:24] <icecube45> yes bz
[01:25] <lolly> ghostchick: i cant
[01:25] <icecube45> bz, here is my netstat -ltn
[01:25] <icecube45> tcp6       0      0 :::25565                :::*                    LISTEN
[01:25] <bz> no god no don't
[01:25] <icecube45> dont worry
[01:25] <icecube45> only pasted the one line
[01:25] <bz> ok, what about the other lines?
[01:25] <icecube45> ah kk
[01:25] <icecube45> ill go 2 paste
[01:25] <daniel_6684> Whenever I try to go looking for applications, I hit my <ALT> key and it appears, but there are no applications whatsoever on my HUD, so where are they?
[01:25] <bz> excellent idea
[01:25] <Salacious> so we still dont have an answer on making apache allow me to use chmod in php? like how do you change the user?
[01:26] <laumonier> hi why when i try to use ffmpeg to convert a mp4 to mp3 it doesnt work ?do i need some codec?and why it tells me ffmpeg is not supported and that i should use arista?is it a bug? thx for answer
[01:26] <daniel_6684> Whenever I try to go looking for applications, I hit my <ALT> key and my Heads-Up Display (HUD) appears, but there are no applications whatsoever listed. Where are they?
[01:26] <escott> lolly, you don't need to create an ntfs partition. you just need to create free space to install windows into
[01:26] <ghostnik11> Hi I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 on hp pavilion dvd6 and a problem comes up saying compiz isn't working and I need to update the packages
[01:27] <icecube45> bz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072325/
[01:27] <neteffect> i wonder how to install flash
[01:27] <Linux_Guy> ghostnik11, you actually got to the bios to make it boot and install?
[01:27] <Linux_Guy> I've not been able to get that far, it seems to "skip" it
[01:28] <ghostnik11> Linux_guy: yeah it installed but for some reason I can't get into the main part of Ubuntu where I see the home screen
[01:28] <daniel_6684> Whenever I try to go looking for applications, I hit my <ALT> key and my Heads-Up Display (HUD) appears, but there are no applications whatsoever listed. Where are they?
[01:28] <quixotedon> neteffect: i bet you can do it through ubuntu software center and search "flash" (without quotes)
[01:28] <bazhang> !repeat | daniel_6684
[01:28] <Linux_Guy> ghostnik11, so you can't get to synaptic. how far does it boot to?
[01:29] <neteffect> ok
[01:29] <icecube45> bz, you see that paste?
[01:29] <bz> icecube45: yeah.
[01:29] <icecube45> k
[01:29] <bz> icecube45: can we do an experiment?
[01:29] <icecube45> sure bz
[01:29] <bz> icecube45: just wanna make sure your ports are being fwded correctly
[01:29] <icecube45> k
[01:29] <ghostnik11> Linux_guy: wait your telling this isn't just a couple end users problems with the new version of Ubuntu.  Nope can't get to synaptic I was going to ask how can I tell it to boot into low video mode that doesn't use compiz and uses only 2d and metacity
[01:30] <icecube45> okay sure bz, whatever u say
[01:30] <bz> icecube45: so on the minecraft machine, nc -l 0.0.0.0 10012
[01:30] <Linux_Guy> ghostnik11,  as far as how widespread I do not know. you're the first to me, but that's just going by my experience
[01:31] <bz> icecube45: don't sigterm it
[01:31] <Linux_Guy> ghostnik11,  if you can get the 2d version working fine, then I would think you could use that mode to grab compiz,. though it depends on your system specs I would also imagine
[01:31] <icecube45> sigterm?
[01:31] <bz> control-c
[01:31] <icecube45> ah kk
[01:31] <icecube45> well, its doing whatever
[01:31] <icecube45> whats it ment to do :3
[01:32] <bz> icecube45: check your query window for a sec
[01:32] <icecube45> yes?
[01:32] <icecube45> nothing new bz
[01:32] <icecube45> still doing whatever
[01:32] <ghostnik11> Linux_guy: it keeps trying to run compiz but it wont work. Its and amd processor with 1gb of ram, how can I get it to login screen when during installation I told it to automatically log me in
[01:33] <icecube45> bz: how long is this ment to take exactly?
[01:33] <Linux_Guy> I'm not too familiar with 12.04, but I know exactly where it is in the older 10.04
[01:33] <bz> icecube45: open up another term, then: echo "it works" | nc <insert your minecraft server ip> 10012
[01:34] <daniel_6684> Whenever I try to go looking for applications, I hit my <ALT> key and my Heads-Up Display (HUD) appears, but there are no applications whatsoever listed. Where are they?
[01:34] <icecube45> bz
[01:34] <daniel_6684> The https://help.ubuntu.com/ is no help/
[01:34] <icecube45> should i use the internal or external ip
[01:34] <icecube45> for the ip here
[01:34] <bz> external ip, of course
[01:34] <Linux_Guy> ghostnik11,  it is administration > login screen
[01:34] <bz> unless you're happy with playing single-player minecraft
[01:34] <blackshirt> hi quixotedon, ... Nice meet you here wkwkkw
[01:34] <bz> :p
[01:34] <Linux_Guy> that will let you select auto login or not
[01:34] <icecube45> bz
[01:34] <icecube45> im sorry, but could u do a paste of that command
[01:35] <icecube45> weechat doesnt handle copying well
[01:35] <daniel_6684> The https://help.ubuntu.com tells me what SHOULD be there, but not how to troubleshoot the Heads-Up Display.
[01:35] <bz> icecube45: echo "it works" | nc <external ip> 10012
[01:35] <ghostchick> ghostnik11,  /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[01:35] <icecube45> echo "it works" | nc    │ aaas
[01:35] <quixotedon> blackshirt: what's up my master? :)
[01:35] <icecube45> oops
[01:35] <ghostnik11> Linux_guy: I can get to administration. Or the main window for that
[01:35] <icecube45> sorry
[01:35] <ghostchick> ghostnik11, should tell you if your hardware can run or not unity 3d
[01:35]  * Linux_Guy agrees with ghostchick 
[01:35] <ghostnik11> Ghostchick: yeah but I can't get to terminal
[01:36] <Linux_Guy> control + alt + F2
[01:36] <bz> i prefer ttyS0
[01:36] <icecube45> bz, done
[01:36] <ghostnik11> Linux_guy: meant to say I can't get to administration
[01:36] <bz> icecube45: works?
[01:36] <icecube45> what shold happen
[01:36] <bz> icecube45: check the window that had "nc -l 0.0.0.0 10012"
[01:37] <icecube45> nothings there bz
[01:37] <mrbean> hey how can I install xbmc on a 32 bit ubunti os
[01:37] <bz> icecube45: seriously? not even an "it works"?
[01:37] <icecube45> nope
[01:37] <mrbean> Im using an old version of xbmc but its only 64 bit
[01:37] <bz> what did you type in?
[01:37] <icecube45> is that bad ... :/
[01:37] <icecube45> echo "it works" | nc 68.164.80.221 10012
[01:37] <bz> no man, the other window
[01:37] <Linux_Guy> mrbean have you looked at the xbmc site? sometimes they show how
[01:37] <bz> nc -l ...
[01:38] <icecube45> ah
[01:38] <icecube45> 2 secs
[01:38] <mrbean> yeah
[01:38] <icecube45> nc -l 0.0.0.0 10012
[01:38] <icecube45> is my networking seriously messed up?
[01:38] <ghostnik11> Ghostchick, Linux_guy: tells me its unable to run display I think its due to fact that I am trying to use my tv as display monitor because screen hinges on laptop is broken
[01:38] <ghostchick> mrbean,  google for a webupd8 tutorial on  xmbc
[01:39] <icecube45> bz, using my internal ip on the echo it works thing, it works fine
[01:39] <icecube45> just with my external it doesnt work
[01:39] <bz> icecube45: yeah, then you have a forwarding issue, bro
[01:39] <Linux_Guy> ghostnik11,  have you tried a smaller monitor rather than the tv?
[01:39] <icecube45> bz: it shouldnt be that tho
[01:39] <ghostchick>  ghostnik11 , on which session you are of ubuntu, unity 2d?
[01:39] <icecube45> bz: all my other computers are fowarding fine
[01:39] <bz> rinzler was actually right
[01:40] <bz> icecube45: how do you know that?
[01:40] <icecube45> bz: ive tested them multiple times
[01:40] <bz> how?
[01:40] <mrbean> oh crap
[01:40] <icecube45> bz: running servers on them
[01:40] <mrbean> sorry it was SPICE
[01:40] <mrbean> not xbmc
[01:40] <icecube45> bz: they just dont have the capacity to run them, thats y i want this one to work
[01:41] <ghostnik11> Is there a way I can tell it in terminal to use metacity or 2d. Linux_guy: don't have smaller monitor just my flat screen tv its a Sony. Ghostchick: I told it to auto log me in and I think it tried to log me in in unity.  Right now I am using my cell phone to talk via irc
[01:41] <bz> icecube45: so they can't run minecraft, but you tested them by running minecraft?
[01:41] <icecube45> bz: do i need to have eth0 or eth1 enabled to make this work or anything
[01:41] <icecube45> bz: i ran a server on them, its jsut supppeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrr laggy
[01:41] <icecube45> bz: and running the server ate all my ram, it ended up crashing my comp
[01:41] <bz> icecube45: yeah, welcome to java
[01:41] <icecube45> xD
[01:42] <icecube45> bz: i have one theory
[01:42] <bz> icecube45: it's a forwrding issue; check your router
[01:42] <icecube45> bz: i checked it
[01:42] <bz> icecube45: do any of the other comps run nix?
[01:42] <icecube45> bz: should be fine
[01:42] <icecube45> bz: no they dont
[01:42] <icecube45> bz: windows Xp and 7
[01:42] <mrbean> hello?
[01:43] <icecube45> bz: its very strange
[01:43] <bz> icecube45: it's not, it's quite obvious
[01:43] <bz> icecube45: double check your forwarding
[01:43] <icecube45> bz: i have, jsut now
[01:43] <bz> icecube45: how?
[01:43] <icecube45> bz: 192.168.2.1, gets me to router page, overlooked my port fowarding, checked my interla ip
[01:44] <icecube45> bz: do i need eth1 or eth0 runnign or anything to get this working, my /etc/networking or whatever uses lo
[01:44] <bz> icecube45: wat
[01:44] <bz> icecube45: lo is loopback, you wouldn't even be able to touch it from another box on your lan if you only had lo
[01:45] <icecube45> bz: is this my problem?
[01:45] <AndyKing> hi
[01:45] <bz> icecube45: didn't you say that you are able to do the nc -l trick over lan?
[01:45] <icecube45> bz: i also get a thing when starting up saying waiting for network configurationg
[01:45] <bz> icecube45: ok, pastebin ifconfig -a
[01:45] <icecube45> bz: k
[01:46] <icecube45> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072349/
[01:46] <AndyKing> when i run a program compiled with wxwidget tools, a error like ' Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.' occurs
[01:46] <bz> icecube45: eth2 is up
[01:46] <mrbean> help
[01:47] <icecube45> bz: so....?
[01:47] <bz> icecube45: what're eth2 and eth0?
[01:47] <mrbean> I need to use an old verison of spice but im using a 32 bit os
[01:47] <mrbean> its for 64 bit
[01:47] <icecube45> bz: what do you mean?
[01:47] <escott> mrbean, install a 64bit os
[01:48] <mrbean> is there nothing else I could tr
[01:48] <mrbean> y
[01:48] <bz> icecube45: i mean that the nix kernel creates a new eth* entry for each physical interface; you've got more than one interface, so i'm guessing your network topology is a bit more complicated than usual
[01:48] <icecube45> bz: really?
[01:48] <randomDude> escott: running `sudo lprm` did the trick
[01:49] <icecube45> bz: want me to describe my router?
[01:49] <icecube45> bz: router is connected to a thing called nettopia, or vise versa, and that is connected to the phone lines
[01:49] <escott> randomDude, lprm should work without sudo for an lpadmin member
[01:49] <Pad22> question: Everytime I have my ubuntu box's networking up, all the machines (including ubuntu) ping spikes from 9-10ms to 500+ms .... When the machine is off, or interface down, everything is OK.
[01:49] <Pad22> Any ideas?
[01:49] <Pad22> I'm starting to think it's hardware related.
[01:50] <escott> mrbean, you could use a 64bit simulator, or work it out on pencil and paper
[01:50] <icecube45> bz?
[01:50] <bz> icecube45: doh
[01:50] <mrbean> ok thanks gtg
[01:50] <escott> Pad22, whats the network topology
[01:51] <mrbean> sorry
[01:51] <bz> icecube45: what port do you use for mc?
[01:51] <icecube45> bz: um....?
[01:51] <icecube45> bz: 25565
[01:51] <icecube45> bz: the default for mc
[01:51] <bz> icecube45: ok, "nc -l 0.0.0.0 25565" on the
[01:51] <Pad22> DSL -> Asus RT-n16 out to an HTPC and a secondary switch where I have a desktop and ubuntu connected
[01:52] <bz> icecube45: on the mc server box, then `echo "it works" | nc 68.164.80.221 25565" ` some other box
[01:52] <bz> or maybe i could do that
[01:52] <icecube45> bz could u?
[01:52] <icecube45> and bz
[01:52] <icecube45> server is up, should i shut it down?
[01:52] <bz> icecube45: um, yeah.
[01:53] <icecube45> bz kk
[01:53] <icecube45> running what u told me
[01:53] <Pad22> I'm running icmp pings from the desktop (windows) constantly watching the response time.... I thought it was due to IPv6, so I moved the IPv6 tunnel off the ubuntu server to the router
[01:53] <Pad22> still, no change
[01:53] <icecube45> bz: the nc -l 0.0.0.0 25565 is running
[01:53] <bz> icecube45: try the echo | nc command with your internal ip
[01:53] <icecube45> k
[01:53] <Pad22> even pings from the ubuntu box are listing 300ms+
[01:54] <escott> Pad22, what about pings from HTPC to router?
[01:54] <icecube45> bz "it works" using internal ip on echo
[01:54] <bz> icecube45: btw, what ip does your router forward port 25565 to?
[01:54] <icecube45> um
[01:54] <icecube45> bz: ?
[01:54] <bz> icecube45: i bet you've got windoze setup on a static ip
[01:55] <icecube45> bz: i dont have a static ip set on my ubuntu, i jsut want to test if it works, then im setting one
[01:55] <icecube45> bz: im porting it to 192.168.2.7
[01:55] <bz> icecube45: so my previous question stands
[01:55] <icecube45> what previous question?
[01:55] <bz> icecube45: btw, what ip does your router forward port 25565 to?
[01:55] <icecube45> ah
[01:56] <icecube45> i have it set up
[01:56] <icecube45> so that its fowarded 192.168.2.7, on port 25565,
[01:57] <icecube45> bz ^^^
[01:57] <bz> icecube45: can you double check that it works on windows? eg, don't touch the router; just reboot to windows, then set your new static to .2.7, then run mc
[01:57] <icecube45> bz: can i not run minecraft, but something else
[01:58] <icecube45> bz: using the same port
[01:58] <randomDude> i'm looking for a way to cause ubuntu desktops to suspend after half an hour of inactive mouse and key input when locked or at the login screen...
[01:58] <bz> icecube45: that's odd, why?
[01:58] <icecube45> bz: not enough ram to run the server
[01:58] <icecube45> bz: on my windows
[01:58] <escott> randomDude, power management settings dont let you set that
[01:58] <icecube45> bz: u can connect to it by minecraft.. its a, um... griefing tool... :3
[01:58] <bz> icecube45: but you just said you tested mc on this very box...in windows
[01:59] <randomDude> escott: in any regard?
[01:59] <ceti331> is there a command to bring up trackpad settings  in ubuntu (i'm runninngg fluxbox at the  minute)- i want to change 2finger scroll sensitivity
[01:59] <icecube45> bz: i didnt say on this box
[01:59] <icecube45> bz: windows is not installed on this box
[01:59] <bz> icecube45: mate, you got two variables then
[01:59] <escott> randomDude, mine says "suspend when inactive for" and then a dropdown with 30min as an option
[01:59] <ceti331> ok found it -
[02:00] <bz> icecube45: different box (eg different ip), and different os
[02:00] <Pad22> escott, ok, with the network up on the ubuntu box, both the windows desktop and htpc have 500ms+ pings out to the internet
[02:00] <ceti331> now my questoin is, is there a way to change 2 finger scrolling sensitivty
[02:00] <icecube45> bz: the only thing different between them is the internal ip, which i adjust if im gonna host from there
[02:00] <escott> Pad22, weird
[02:00] <icecube45> bz: and the OS
[02:00] <Pad22> escott, internally however, everything is OK .... it seems to me that there is some sort of incompatibility between the ubuntu box and the router which is causing all other machines to lag
[02:00] <Pad22> escott, yeah :)
[02:00] <escott> Pad22, clearly, but strange since both are linux boxen
[02:00] <sirriffsalot> What packages do I need when someone says I need "Qt4" to do the "make" command...?
[02:01] <icecube45> bz: should i still test?
[02:01] <Pad22> escott, yep... and I just reflashed with tomato usb to see if that would help out and set all settings back to factory
[02:01] <randomDude> escott: i believe you can see that if you are running ubuntu on a laptop... however i would like this option on desktops
[02:01] <bz> icecube45: every test you've just done for me demonstrates that it's a problem exterior to your 'buntu box
[02:02] <icecube45> bz: but it only happens on a ubuntu os
[02:02] <bz> no, it only happens on THAT box
[02:02] <icecube45> bz: no
[02:02] <icecube45> bz: when i had a different os on this box, it worked fine
[02:03] <bz> icecube45: you knwo what?
[02:03] <icecube45> bz: its just not gonna work?
[02:03] <bz> icecube45: set another one of your boxes to .2.7, then run a server on them
[02:03] <icecube45> bz: they dont have enough ram
[02:03] <escott> randomDude, install gconf-editor. im sure you will find it there
[02:04] <bz> icecube45: not sure how to help you then
[02:04] <icecube45> bz: thanks anyways
[02:04] <icecube45> bz: that may be my only option then
[02:04] <icecube45> bz: its very strange
[02:04] <icecube45> bz: quick question
[02:04] <bz> the problem resides outside of your nix box; it's got nothing to do with anything that sits inside. ubuntu sits inside.
[02:04] <icecube45> bz: whats the mininum amount of ram that is required to run ubuntu?
[02:04] <jhesketh> Howdy. If I have an upstart process (running as root) start at boot time, is there any way a user might be able to stop that process from ever starting? (eg could they add book parameter or enter an interactive boot mode etc where they could choose for that daemon not to start)
[02:04] <bz> icecube45: define 'run ubuntu'
[02:05] <bz> icecube45: heck, define your use case
[02:05] <icecube45> to run wubi
[02:05] <bz> icecube45: i can run my nix server on 30 mb of ram
[02:05] <icecube45> cool
[02:05] <icecube45> running ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop
[02:05] <bz> icecube45: wubi sounds graphical, so probably hundreds of megs of ram
[02:05] <alankila> I think around 512 MB is reasonable minimum for trying to get the desktop up
[02:05] <bz> icecube45: go with that one ^
[02:06] <icecube45> alankila: i tried that exact amount of ram
[02:06] <alankila> it'd probably work with 256 but could be pretty painful
[02:06] <trism> jhesketh: check out /etc/init/lightdm.conf which implements the text kernel argument (so the service doesn't start)
[02:06] <escott> jhesketh, you could define a special boot mode with a special boot argument and then test that argument by checking /proc/cmdline in your script....
[02:06] <bz> icecube45: although, i run icewm on my debian with 256 MB just fine
[02:06] <icecube45> alankila: it wouldnt work, it would freeze after saying prefix not defined
[02:06] <escott> jhesketh, which is what lightdm.conf does
[02:06] <icecube45> i wish i could get it to work on this computer
[02:06] <jhesketh> thanks trism, escott.. I have to go but I'll give it a try in a sec
[02:06] <icecube45> but thanks anyways
[02:06] <alankila> icecube45: "prefix not defined" means nothing to me. In any case you shuold have swapping happening so your experience of the system should be that it's slow, not that it doesn't work.
[02:07] <trism> indeed
[02:07] <icecube45> thanks anyways guys
[02:07] <jrdnn> icecub45 If you go with Lubuntu (I think Wubi should support it since it's an official ubuntu flavor now) you should only need like 64MB
[02:07] <icecube45> jrdnn: is that command line only?
[02:07] <jrdnn> icecube45* Sorry.
[02:07] <jrdnn> icecub45: No it's a GUI. About the  closest Linux there is to Windows.
[02:07] <icecube45> cool
[02:08] <icecube45> thansk anyways guys
[02:08] <icecube45> i dont think my problem is going to get solved
[02:08] <icecube45> cya
[02:08] <jhesketh> trism, escott: ah, I see what you're saying. Ok, that's cool. However what I actually want to do it stop people from ever being able to stop this script (it's a security measure)
[02:09] <escott> jhesketh, im confused then. how would they stop the script?
[02:09] <icecube45> ang around here
[02:09] <icecube45> i think im just gonna hand around
[02:10] <escott> jhesketh, don't give them root and don't give them physical access and they can't do anything you dont want
[02:10] <icecube45> if u can think of anything let me know
[02:10] <bz> icecube45: check your forwarding ;_;
[02:10] <bz> icecube45: or install windows on the mc box and check your forwarding from inside windows
[02:10] <icecube45> bz: ill check my fowarding to the end of time
[02:10] <icecube45> bz: its got no harddrive
[02:10] <icecube45> bz: so no windowws
[02:11] <bz> what is this i don't even
[02:11] <escott> !enter | icecube45
[02:11] <icecube45> Gah
[02:11] <icecube45> not again....
[02:11] <icecube45> ...,,,..
[02:11] <icecube45> oops
[02:11] <FloodBot1> icecube45: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:11] <icecube45> sorry guys, my client froze
[02:13] <icecube45> dz: the wierd thing is, my computer is using dmz
[02:14] <bz> icecube45: you mean it's sitting in a dmz?
[02:14] <icecube45> bz: i enabled dmz for its internal ip, so it is outside the NAT firewall
[02:14] <bz> icecube45: and yet not one of its ports are accessible from the outside
[02:15] <icecube45> bz: thats right
[02:15] <icecube45> bz: is there anything that can be blocking incoming connections on ubuntu?
[02:15] <bz> let's reason this out
[02:15] <DarwinSurvivor> icecube45: "sudo iptables -L" will tell you if iptables is set to block anything
[02:15] <bz> ports inaccessible; problem at either ubuntu or at router, no?
[02:15] <|Long|> i have 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
[02:16] <bz> icecube45: yet we already accessed your ports from an internal ip
[02:16] <bz> icecube45: so...problem can't be ubuntu, right?
[02:16] <|Long|> on ftp can someone plz point me some tips
[02:16] <icecube45> bz: its wierd
[02:16] <DarwinSurvivor> bz: it could be if he has some IP's white/black listed in iptables
[02:16] <escott> |Long|, why use ftp. there are soooo many better alternatives
[02:16] <icecube45> bz: check iptables?
[02:16] <bz> DarwinSurvivor: that would be...so so ironic and hilarious
[02:17] <bz> icecube45: yeah, check iptab
[02:17] <|Long|> escott, cause i can control all of the activities
[02:17] <escott> |Long|, and you can't with sftp?
[02:17] <icecube45> bz: command again please?
[02:17] <bz> icecube45: iptables -L as root
[02:18] <|Long|> escott, i can ssh and sftp, but not with ftp
[02:18] <phungus-> so, any ideas why a Lucid server would be unable to bind ip aliases?
[02:18] <icecube45> hmm thats wierd
[02:18] <icecube45> my securitylog on router
[02:18] <escott> |Long|, so back to the original question. if sftp is working why are you using ftp?
[02:19] <icecube45> it says Blocked by DoS protection 192.168.17.1
[02:19] <icecube45> when
[02:19] <DarwinSurvivor> icecube45: "sudo iptables -L" will tell you if iptables is set to block anything
[02:19] <phungus-> oh good grief was using eth0.1 instead of eth0:1
[02:19] <icecube45> thats my WAN ip...
[02:19] <phungus-> duh
[02:19] <phungus-> n/m
[02:19] <|Long|> escott, becuase it echo information on irc for me to see what is going on
[02:19] <icecube45> the 192.168.17.1
[02:19] <icecube45> and DoS is blocking it?
[02:19] <phungus-> 16yrs as a sysadmin and this trips me up for 20 mins
[02:19] <phungus-> lol
[02:19] <DarwinSurvivor> icecube45: ah, your router may have an adaptive firewall. If it detected an IP was spamming, scanning or brute forcing, it may have black-listed it.
[02:20] <icecube45> dz: ill make a paste of iptables
[02:20] <|Long|> escott, glftpd is the best and most stable ftp out there
[02:22] <icecube45> my iptables, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072390/
[02:22] <icecube45> dz: see above
[02:22] <icecube45> dz: i dont know how to read iptables... so
[02:23] <DarwinSurvivor> good grief, who set that up?
[02:24] <icecube45> uh... ubuntu
[02:24] <DarwinSurvivor> that suckers got more chains that bike shop!
[02:24] <icecube45> i havent touched iptables
[02:24] <icecube45> is that bad? :/
[02:24] <escott> looks like a standard ufw ruleset
[02:24] <DarwinSurvivor> do you use any firewall configuration tools (ufw, etc)?
[02:24] <escott> !ufw
[02:24] <DarwinSurvivor> Agree with escott, looks like ufw generated it....
[02:25] <icecube45> well
[02:25] <icecube45> i havent touched ufw either
[02:25] <icecube45> is it blocking my connections?
[02:25] <icecube45> !Ubottu
[02:25] <icecube45> thats so cool
[02:26] <icecube45> everyone needs a ubottu in their lifes
[02:26] <escott> !enter | icecube45
[02:26] <DarwinSurvivor> looks like the "ufw-not-local" chain may be causing problems.
[02:27] <icecube45> Darwin, how can i fix
[02:27] <DarwinSurvivor> as a definitive test, you can run "supo iptables --flush" to disable the firewall
[02:27] <cyphase> i have dual monitors, one 1440x900, one 1280x1024. is there a tool i can use to create a wallpaper by combining two images? i can do it in gimp, but preferably there's something simpler
[02:28] <DarwinSurvivor> I wouldn't recommend running without a firewall with DMZ enabled, it leaves your computer completely unprotected from the internet
[02:28] <DarwinSurvivor> !polls | cyphase
[02:28] <icecube45> well, worth a shot
[02:28] <wardrop> Does anyone know how to get the total size of a directory via the command line? `du` seemed like the perfect tool, but it counts size on disk instead of actual file size. The problem with size on disk is it changes depending on the cluster size of the file system, hence comparing two sets of files in this manner is unreliable.
[02:28] <escott> cyphase, gimp would be up there on the simplicity scale. also your image needs to be 1440 x1924
[02:28] <icecube45> darwin, can u post it again please
[02:28] <icecube45> weechat doesnt let me scroll up
[02:29] <icecube45> !ubottu | icecube45
[02:29] <cyphase> DarwinSurvivor, i wasn't taking a poll, i was asking if there was a tool more focused on my goal. nor did i ask for "the best" tool :)
[02:29] <icecube45> thats so cool
[02:29] <escott> wardrop, you could use ls and awk
[02:30] <wardrop> escott: Got an example? I'm not quite an uber guru yet
[02:30] <icecube45> DarwinSurvivor: please repeat that iptables command, i missed it
[02:30] <DarwinSurvivor> cyphase: sorry, we don't have a bang-command for "recommendations", so the "polls" one gets used quite a bit. The #ubuntu channel is for support issues (broken things), you'll probably have better luck in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:30] <cyphase> DarwinSurvivor, fair enough, that did cross my mind :)
[02:30] <DarwinSurvivor> icecube45: sudo iptables --flush
[02:31] <cyphase> thanks
[02:31] <icecube45> and to turn it back on?
[02:31] <DarwinSurvivor> wardrop: look in "man du" for options that may allow you to get the "true" size instead of the "disk" size.
[02:31] <DarwinSurvivor> icecube45: run gufw and it should re-enable it.
[02:31] <jrdnn> warpdrop: Try the -A parameter for actual filesystem size instead of disk
[02:31] <jrdnn> wardrop* Sorry
[02:32] <DarwinSurvivor> icecube45: is there any particular reason you are using DMZ, or is it just for testing/debugging?
[02:32] <icecube45> thanks
[02:32] <escott> wardrop, http://unstableme.blogspot.com/2009/11/sum-of-numbers-in-file-unix.html
[02:32] <icecube45> well
[02:32] <icecube45> long story
[02:32] <escott> wardrop, so ls -s | awk '{s+=$1} END {print s}'
[02:33] <escott> wardrop, but du --apparent-size is easier
[02:34] <bz> icecube45: you realize that i'm 'bz' and not 'dz', right? that's pretty much a guarantee that i won't see your messages
[02:34] <wardrop> escott: Well spotted on the --apparent-size attribute. Didn't see that one in the manual.
[02:34] <icecube45> bz: i know
[02:34] <icecube45> bz: it was a while up there
[02:34] <bz> holy what my god so many rules
[02:34] <icecube45> bz: typo
[02:34] <escott> wardrop, only because it happened to be at the top of the man page. im tooo lazy to scroll :)
[02:34] <bz> icecube45: iptables -F as root
[02:34] <icecube45> bz: why?
[02:35] <DarwinSurvivor> bz: already have him running --flush
[02:35] <bz> DarwinSurvivor: nice nice
[02:35] <icecube45> what he said
[02:35] <DarwinSurvivor> icecube45: "-F" is the same as "--flush"
[02:35] <wardrop> escott: haha, nice
[02:35] <icecube45> k
[02:35] <icecube45> lets hope this works
[02:35] <icecube45> bz: starting server up..
[02:36] <bz> icecube45: gogogogogo
[02:36] <icecube45> bz: comon.... please work
[02:36] <icecube45> bz: nope.avi no go
[02:36] <icecube45> bz: WTF IS WRONG WITH THIS
[02:36]  * icecube45 goes and weeps in a corner
[02:37] <bz> icecube45: chill. try the nc -l diagnostic again
[02:37] <escott> icecube45, please cut down on the commentary. look back over the last hour and you probably account for 50% of the traffic in channel. it makes it harder to help others
[02:37] <DarwinSurvivor> icecube45: and can you confirm that "sudo iptables -L" no looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072408/
[02:38] <bz> escott: /ignore
[02:38] <icecube45> Darwin
[02:38] <icecube45> it looks a lot better
[02:38] <icecube45> bz: what were the commands again
[02:38] <flipflop__> hello
[02:38] <icecube45> Hello!
[02:38] <bz> icecube45: on the mc box: nc -l 0.0.0.0 25565
[02:38] <DarwinSurvivor> icecube45: "sudo iptables -L" to see the current settings, "sudo iptables -F" to disable all the rule.
[02:38] <escott> bz, ignore doesn't help others who need help and can't find the thread
[02:38] <bz> icecube45: on the non-mc box; echo "it works" | nc <external ip> 25565
[02:39] <icecube45> let me shut down the server
[02:39] <icecube45> bz: good new is, it recognizes that it is running on 25565 :2
[02:39] <icecube45> cause it wont let me do that command untill i shut down the server
[02:40] <icecube45> bz: does it have to be on a different box
[02:40] <icecube45> bz: or can i use the same box, for i only have one ubuntu box
[02:41] <bz> icecube45: could be the same box
[02:41] <bz> icecube45: obviously a different vt
[02:41] <icecube45> bz: vt?
[02:42] <jpmorgan> hi, i installed rvm from source but i can't open gems. i removed the ubuntu versions of ruby, rvm and ruby gems. yet: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072409/. should i just rm gem and gem1.8 in usr/bin/ why werent they rmed when i removed the packages and purged the config files?
[02:42] <bz> icecube45: virtual terminal. gnome-term xterm kterm kate xfceterm rxvt urxvt
[02:42] <icecube45> bz: can i use a different tab?
[02:42] <icecube45> bz: would that work fine
[02:42] <bz> icecube45: ouash
[02:42] <DarwinSurvivor> icecube45: yes
[02:42] <icecube45> bz: okay, command again please
[02:43] <DarwinSurvivor> icecube45: do you have a text editor or something you can copy-paste them into to save?
[02:43] <icecube45> Darwin
[02:43] <icecube45> its not that
[02:43] <icecube45> its that im using weechat, so it messes up the copy/paste unless on one line
[02:43] <bz> DarwinSurvivor: he's got like 5 lines of scrollback :D
[02:43] <kike> Any scary stories of migrating from 10.04 to 12.04???
[02:44] <icecube45> and that
[02:44] <gry> icecube45: ctrl + shift + select
[02:44] <icecube45> gry: select?
[02:44] <gry> left click
[02:44] <gry> drag mouse
[02:44] <icecube45> ah
[02:44] <DarwinSurvivor> ah
[02:44] <numberto> Hi guys, have some problems installing ubuntu 12.04 amd64 on a flash stick. Well, it actually installs it but after booting from it it stays at black screens doing nothing.
[02:44] <icecube45> well, still cant scroll up
[02:44] <escott> !nomodeset | numberto
[02:44] <bz> icecube45: nc -l 0.0.0.0 25535
[02:44] <icecube45> done
[02:45] <bz> or was it 25565
[02:45] <gry> icecube45: pageUp doesn't work?
[02:45] <icecube45> other command please
[02:45] <icecube45> 25565
[02:45] <numberto> escott: thanks
[02:45] <icecube45> oi! it does, thanks gry
[02:45] <bz> icecube45: echo "it works" | nc 68.164.80.221 25565
[02:45] <icecube45> gry, since u know about weechat
[02:45] <icecube45> how can i go to a different tab
[02:45] <icecube45> like switching from here to a privte message and back
[02:46] <icecube45> bz: trying
[02:46] <gry> icecube45: do you have channel list plugin loaded -- do you see a list of channels at the left?
[02:46] <icecube45> gry: on the bottem right i see that i have pms i just cant access them
[02:46] <DarkNyan> I have a problem with GRUB bootloader. Anybody wanna help? They get cookies :)
[02:46] <jpmorgan> also does can anyone recommend a really good tutorials on $PATHS and symlinks
[02:46] <bz> icecube45: might wanna dial-down on slapping that enter key for escott's sake
[02:46] <DarwinSurvivor> !details | DarkNyan
[02:46] <icecube45> Sorry, really bad habbit XD
[02:47] <icecube45> sorry escott
[02:47] <icecube45> bz: nothing
[02:47] <EvilMog> I have a problem with metal as a service nodes getting stuck in comissioning even when their clocks are synch'd
[02:47] <jhesketh> escott: sorry, I've returned now... Basically I have to give them physical access. I'm trying to make a locked down live distro (off ubuntu clearly) which they boot into. They won't be given root etc. I'm just wondering if they can stop the starting of root processes or escalate themselves to root before TTY/ldm etc are started
[02:47] <EvilMog> are there any plans to make the process a little more robust?
[02:47] <escott> jpmorgan, PATH is separated by : symlinks are like hard links but can be broken and can traverse filesystems. does that cover what you need?
[02:47] <icecube45> bz: it didnt work
[02:48] <icecube45> gry: so how can i do it?
[02:48] <DarkNyan> I have a problem with the installation of 12.04 from the Desktop AMD64 Cd regarding the GRUB bootloader installation on /dev/sda and /dev/sdb which resulted in a fatal error and therefore not allowing me to access Ubuntu 12.04 which has been successfully installed on the partition /dev/sda4 build
[02:48] <DarkNyan> DarwinSurvivor
[02:48] <escott> jhesketh, stopped reading at "i have to give them physical access"... unless you plan to enable a cryptographically signed bootloader (do you have an efi system?) then they have root
[02:48] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: what's the error, and define "can't access"
[02:48] <DarkNyan> This has resulted in 2 failed installations. I am running Intel Raid Storage Technology, but I'm not completely sure it is a RAID issue.
[02:49] <jpmorgan> escott, i need a lot more than that. it makes sense but still awful putting it into practice
[02:49] <escott> DarkNyan, you mean fakeraid
[02:49] <DarkNyan> By not access, I mean not being able to boot into Ubuntu 12.04
[02:49] <icecube45> bz: the echo didnt work, i suspect it times out, for i can enter a new command now
[02:49] <escott> jpmorgan, give a specific question then
[02:49] <bz> icecube45: uh, does the other window say 'it works'?
[02:49] <icecube45> bz: nope
[02:49] <gry> icecube45: '/mouse enable' and drag mouse to left or right
[02:49] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: please be *specific*. "Nothing happens" "I get an error" "the screen goes black" "it stops responding"....
[02:49] <bz> nice
[02:50] <DarkNyan> Well right now, I need a way to install GRUB Bootloader DarwinSurvivor after a fatal error with no error details.
[02:50] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: you are being *very* vague. If you got a "fatal error" with no message, how did you know it was a "fatal error"?
[02:50] <jhesketh> escott: yeah I realise they can boot other systems etc, a signed bootloader is not viable. We have to assume they will boot the live USB - quite a large assumption but we are aware of the consequences of it. Other than that assumption though, is it safe to say they can't get root without rebooting?
[02:51] <escott> DarkNyan, if at all possible don't use fakeraid. if you have to use fakeraid then in some limited configurations it will work as a boot device, but its limited
[02:51] <DarkNyan> @DarwinSurvivor, it says Fatal Error as a error prompt. Nothing else.
[02:51] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: and is that what you get when installing, or when trying to boot afterwards?
[02:51] <DarkNyan> When installing.
[02:52] <DarkNyan> The last part of the installation I mean specifically.
[02:52] <escott> jhesketh, sure. the fewer permissions you give them in the logged in system the better because it reduces the number of privilege escalation attacks they can make
[02:52] <icecube45> Bz: ubuntu crashed
[02:52] <aman_> can someone help me with a sound related issue on 12.04
[02:52] <bz> icecube45: nice
[02:52] <apolo444> Hello
[02:52] <icecube45> Rstarting
[02:52] <aman_> can someone help me with a sound related issue on 12.04?????
[02:53] <escott> jpmorgan, is there a specific situation that isn't working the way you expect it to?
[02:53] <jpmorgan> escott, i am nt at a point where i can intelligently ask a question. i see what it does. i just don't know how to do it myself. the other day i installed homebrew on my mac and and it broke my usr local so i moved it to opt. but the usr local paths and manpaths were still there
[02:53] <icecube45> But bz, there was no, it works
[02:53] <gry> aman_: only if you ask with all the details, please :-)
[02:53] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: have you verified the installation media ("check this disk for defects" when booting off of it)?
[02:53] <aman_> yes, i have no sound basically, i;ve reinstalled all the drivers as well still nothing
[02:53] <jhesketh> escott: Yep, hoping to give them very few permissions. But we also want a logging program to run as root, and I'm just wondering - as it's an upstart daemon - if there is a way a user might stop this. (for example, by interactively booting and choosing not to start that daemon)
[02:53] <DarkNyan> If the amount of people asking questions is overwhelming you, I'm always happy to wait :)
[02:53] <apolo444> Hello
[02:53] <gry> hi apolo444
[02:53] <jpmorgan> and i couldnt get homebrew to do anything in opt. then i moved it again to home
[02:53] <DarkNyan> DarwinSurvivor, I checked before, lemme check again.
[02:54] <DarkNyan> Brb.
[02:54] <aman_> gry:  yes, i have no sound basically, i;ve reinstalled all the drivers as well still nothing
[02:54] <escott> jhesketh, they could reboot to init=/bin/bash, remove the logging program and reboot again
[02:54] <icecube45> Now, bz, is it just not gonna work?
[02:54] <gry> aman_: I suspect people would wonder what ubuntu version you're using and what hardware you have
[02:54] <escott> jpmorgan, you had a binary which wasn't working in a particular path?
[02:54] <apolo444> Please help to install ubuntu 12.04
[02:55] <icecube45> Gry: what were u saying about /mouse enable 2 me
[02:55] <KM0201> apolo444: what problem are you having?
[02:55] <gry> apolo444: what is the problem please ?
[02:55] <ghostchick> aman_,  pulsecontrol and alsamixer tried those?
[02:55] <gry> icecube45: '/mouse enable' and drag mouse to left/right to switch windows
[02:55] <icecube45> Thanks
[02:55] <apolo444> You speak spanish?
[02:55] <jpmorgan> anyway. it just want badly. and now its going badly with installing rvm from source on precise because i removed an earlier version that i dled from the ubuntu repositry and it seems the path didnt fully get removed and now i cant open rvm
[02:55] <IdleOne> !es | apolo444
[02:55] <gry> icecube45: there are some better ways via /window command but I don't use them; I click channel names in the list at the left, which you probably don't have loaded
[02:56] <icecube45> !ubottu | icecube45
[02:56] <apolo444> Gracias
[02:56] <bz> icecube45: i'm out of ideas
[02:56] <icecube45> Thanks anyways bz:
[02:56] <aman_> Using ubuntu 12.04, running hp, intel centrino 2, "/proc/asound/card1/codec#0:Codec: ATI R6xx HDMI " alsa shows no bars when i use ATI card, but for intel it does show all max.
[02:57] <escott> jpmorgan, when you say path i dont think you mean what we would mean which $PATH
[02:57] <icecube45> Bz: thanks for all ur time, care to play minecraft or anything
[02:57] <kaya> what,nwhich
[02:57] <bz> icecube45: i play quake 3 :p
[02:57] <DarkNyan> DarwinSurvivor Nope, definitely not that.
[02:57] <icecube45> Ah kk bz
[02:57] <icecube45> That i dont have
[02:57] <escott> jpmorgan, if you are installing from source a few things you should do (a) use a prefix in the ./configure step (b) use checkinstall instead of make install (c) install to /opt or /usr/local
[02:57] <jpmorgan> ok what is it then? i feel like its a rabbit hole at the moment.
[02:58] <apolo444> El canal ubuntu-es salgo sólo
[02:58] <escott> jpmorgan, im not sure what you mean by path
[02:58] <aman_>  Using ubuntu 12.04, running hp, intel centrino 2, "/proc/asound/card1/codec#0:Codec: ATI R6xx HDMI " alsa shows no bars when i use ATI card, but for intel it does show all max. NO SOUND, please help!!!
[02:58] <escott> jpmorgan, perhaps you mean residual configuration files. you can apt-get --purge program
[02:58] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: ok, can you try installing *without* using the raid setup to determine if it is raid related (and not a cpu/network/graphics/etc issue)?
[02:58] <DarwinSurvivor> !patience | aman_
[02:58] <baazigar> hello, i just started my ubuntu and my mouse doesnt move
[02:59] <DarkNyan> @DarwinSurvivor I didn't use the RAID in the first place unless its automatically included with the Desktop AMD64 CD.  Sorry for misinforming you if I did.
[02:59] <jpmorgan> i did purge when i removed ruby but this still is on the machine gem
[02:59] <jpmorgan> bash: /usr/bin/gem: /usr/bin/ruby1.8: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[02:59] <quixotedon> baazigar: have you done updating the os?
[02:59] <aman_> ok i'll wait
[02:59] <baazigar> quixotedon : i did it 3 weeks ago
[02:59] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: so you are not using the Intel Raid you mentioned earlier?
[03:00] <icecube45> Bz: new error..
[03:00] <bz> icecube45: go aehad
[03:00] <escott> jpmorgan, that is just saying that /usr/bin/gem is installed and the first line of that program is #!/usr/bin/ruby1.8 which is not a valid executable. so "bad interpreter" for /usr/bin/gem
[03:00] <DarkNyan> I said it was a possibility because I have Intel Rapid Storage Technology but it doesn't seem to be why in my own opinion.
[03:00] <quixotedon> baazigar: before it was working fine?
[03:00] <DarwinSurvivor> aman_: while you wait, check your hardware (wireless mouse batteries, touchpade disable switch, cords, etc)
[03:00] <apolo444> En ubuntu es salgo yo sólo
[03:00] <jpmorgan> but i have neither installed through the repos
[03:00] <DarwinSurvivor> !es | apolo444
[03:00] <quixotedon> !es| apolo444
[03:00] <baazigar> quixotedon : it worked fine yesterday, but today,i dont know why it jammed
[03:01] <icecube45> Bz: "the system network services are not compatable with this version"
[03:01] <jpmorgan> and i just installed them in my home folder
[03:01] <gry> apolo444:    /join #ubuntu-es
[03:01] <apolo444> Ok
[03:01] <DarwinSurvivor> aman_: oops wrong name, please ignore
[03:01] <bz> icecube45: what changed?
[03:01] <DarwinSurvivor> baazigar: while you wait, check your hardware (wireless mouse batteries, touchpade disable switch, cords, etc)
[03:01] <baazigar> quixotedon : oh wow its working now, it was a temporary problem after i booted
[03:02] <quixotedon> baazigar: yeah, i think so, glad it works now.. :)
[03:02] <icecube45> Well, i have no internet connection, and there is no wireless thingy bz
[03:02] <jhesketh> escott: ok, so if they went into /bin/bash for their init they could remove it. However it's a non-persistent live usb so when rebooting their changes should be lost. That said, would setting the init parameter allow them to start other serivces themselves from /bin/bash etc. eg use init=/bin/bash and then start ldm.
[03:02] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: by "have" do you mean "is connected", "is being used" or "is sitting on the table next to me"?
[03:02] <escott> jpmorgan, if you are confused about what program you are executing use the tool "which" "which gem" will tell you the path to the gem executable "ls -l `which gem`" will tell you what that points to if it is a symlink
[03:03] <bz> icecube45: no, i mean what have you changed with the new system? did you update, upgrade, delete, modify somethin?
[03:03] <icecube45> I rebooted..Bz
[03:03] <escott> jhesketh, they could init=/bin/bash and then modify the system, and then resume the boot
[03:03] <DarkNyan> @DarwinSurvivor, I will google and check.
[03:03] <jhesketh> escott: ah I see
[03:03] <escott> jhesketh, they could change root= argument, let it fail to busybox, then find root, make changes...
[03:04] <bz> icecube45: hm, ifconfig -a?
[03:04] <jhesketh> escott: hmm, ok then.. thanks for that. I don't suppose there is a way to limit the boot loader so they can't modify any of these parameters?
[03:04] <jhesketh> (I'm guessing that's not easy)
[03:04] <icecube45> Well i cant paste3 it bz
[03:04] <aman_> yes Darwin, I'm trying. I've tried every post there is on line. Reinstalled everything.
[03:04] <escott> jhesketh, for a usb system there probably is, but i dont know what it would be
[03:04] <bz> icecube45: no need, just read off the device names
[03:04] <jpmorgan> escott, $ which gem /usr/bin/gem $ gem -v bash: /usr/bin/gem: /usr/bin/ruby1.8: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[03:04] <bz> icecube45: eth0, eth2, ham0, and lo, right?
[03:04] <jhesketh> escott: ok, no worries. Thanks very much for all your help :-)
[03:04] <icecube45> Lo, ham0, eth2, eth0
[03:05] <DarkNyan> DarwinSurvivor It is installed but not being used on my computer.
[03:05] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: what is it, a pci-e card, a motherboard-embedded controller, etc?
[03:05] <escott> jpmorgan, run "head `which gem`" you will see the first line is "#!/usr/bin/ruby1.8" run "ls -l /usr/bin/ruby1.8" and you will see it doesn't exist
[03:06] <bz> icecube45: so, as root, "dhclient eth2"
[03:06] <DarkNyan> DarwinSurvivor It is a Firmware RAID that is marketed with Intel Harddrives.
[03:06] <icecube45> Im trying rebooting..
[03:06] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: ok, so part of the motherboard/bios then. Have you confirmed that it is disabled in the BIOS?
[03:06] <icecube45> Bz: im rebooting
[03:07] <DarkNyan> DarwinSurvivor I could not find any trace of it in the BIOs + The Intel Raid Storage Technology Panel says it is not enabled.
[03:07] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: what "panel". is it a physical panel, a windows config panel, a bios page, etc?
[03:07] <DarkNyan> DarwinSurvivor: It is a software panel.
[03:08] <jpmorgan> when i ran head all i got was an ">" and yes ruby1.8 doesn't exist
[03:08] <escott> jpmorgan, you cannot run /usr/bin/gem, because it needs /usr/bin/ruby1.8 (that is the specified interpreter) and you have uninstalled it. you might be able to run /usr/local/bin/ruby /usr/bin/gem, but unless /usr/local/bin/ruby is a ruby1.8 interpreter your /usr/bin/gem is not tested to work with it
[03:08] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: a software panel *where*?
[03:08] <DarkNyan> DarwinSurvivor: In my Windows Tray panel.
[03:08] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: in a windows install, in another linux install, etc?
[03:09] <icecube45> Bz upon booting, it says, booting system without full network configuration
[03:09] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: ok, then there is a good chance it is disabled in WINDOWS, but the motherboard is still using it!
[03:09] <bz> icecube45: dhclient eth2
[03:09] <DarkNyan> Well I can't find any trace of it in the BIOS, unless SATA mode is supposed to be in IDE instead of AHCPI, I have no idea how to disable it. DarwinSurvivor
[03:10] <arall> icecube45: what's in your /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:10] <escott> jpmorgan, if your attitude is "damn the torpedoes" and you want to use YOUR ruby interpreter to run the system provided gem, then you can use update-alternatives to establish a symlink from /usr/bin/ruby1.8 to /usr/local/bin/ruby, or just slam the symlink in manually (discouraged). best course of action though is to uninstall gem, and install /usr/local/bin/gem that is compatible with /usr/local/bin/ruby
[03:10] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: how many hard drives do you have installed?
[03:10] <icecube45> Arall uh
[03:11] <DarkNyan> @DarwinSurvivor 1 harddrive with one 540GB Partition for Windows, and a 40GB partition for Ubuntu as well as  15GB System Reserved partition.
[03:11] <jpmorgan> point is gem is not installed: sudo apt-get remove --purge gem  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree    Reading state information... Done Package gem is not installed, so not removed
[03:11] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: you mentioned there as an sda and an sdb, is that correct?
[03:11] <icecube45> Arall, can i get back 2 u, got 2 quickly do something
[03:11] <escott> !find /usr/bin/gem
[03:11] <escott> jpmorgan, ^^^
[03:11] <arall> icecube45: OK
[03:11] <jpmorgan> escott, i dont want to run the system provided gem. but the system is not allowing me to run the rvm one
[03:12] <escott> jpmorgan, because /usr/local/bin is appearing in $PATH after /usr/bin. so it finds /usr/bin/gem and says "I found gem"
[03:12] <DarkNyan> @DarwinSurvivor I tried sda but it is not a partition with any data on it, it is recognized as the harddrive. I'm going to try to reinstall with GRUB in it's own partition.
[03:13] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: from what I've read, intel's fakeraid (which appears to be what you have) is notorious for being a PITA to get working correctly, so I'm not surprised you are having troubles
[03:13] <escott> jpmorgan, in any case uninstall rubygems package, and maybe flip your PATH ordering around to export PATH=/usr/local/bin:$PATH
[03:13] <RED_> hey I got a little problems, I tried install Wine via PPA, it downloaded the packages fine and all that stuff, I get a pop up for the MS fonts thingy. I cannot accept it clicking ok doesnt do any thing nor can I type in the terminal, I exited the terminal. now whenever I try install any thing via apt-get the MS font thing pops up. any one know how to get rid of it?
[03:14] <DarkNyan> @DarwinSurvivor, I am probably wrong about RAID then. Intel Matrix RAID [Intel Rapid Storage Technology] is a firmware RAID and is out of control of the software in Windows. Any way to disable it? I'm trying to google it but I can't find anything useful.
[03:14] <DarwinSurvivor> RED_: PPA's are 3rd party repositories and as such are not supporting in the #ubuntu help channel. You will need to contact the owner of the PPA directly for assistance
[03:14] <RED_> yea I know that any way to force quit apt-get?
[03:15] <RED_> or just accept the dam thing
[03:15] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1815640
[03:15] <escott> jpmorgan, hopefully that all makes sense. im off to bed
[03:15] <jpmorgan> escott, i will try that. thanks. but starting from the beginning do you know of great tutorial. a blind person cant talk about what he doesnt see.
[03:16] <jpmorgan> escott, and good night
[03:16] <Jordan_U> DarkNyan: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[03:16] <DarwinSurvivor> RED_: killing the package manager (apt-get) during an installation is VERY dangerous
[03:16] <escott> jpmorgan, i would have to point you to either tldp or the debian administrators handbook
[03:16] <DarkNyan> @Jordan_U I'm in Windows as @DarwinSurvivor knows.
[03:16] <RED_> yea well I can't do anything else unless I can accept the agreement
[03:16] <escott> jpmorgan, but you are pulling in a half dozen concepts at once in this. so you just have to struggle with them until they make sense.
[03:17] <RED_> I can clean up a dirty install
[03:17] <DarwinSurvivor> RED_: can you post a screenshot?
[03:17] <jpmorgan> escott, i will check those out.and yes i make a mess of things at first. thn i somehow put it back together. im very messy. and again thanks for directing me to the right path.
[03:17] <RED_> sure
[03:17] <rhizmoe> how come terminal is tending to hide from focus via alt-tab?
[03:17] <rhizmoe> it's selectable, but it doesn't come up
[03:17] <rhizmoe> s/up/forward
[03:17] <Jordan_U> DarkNyan: Can you boot from a Ubuntu LiveCD?
[03:18] <RED_> well var is locked atm how do I unlock it?
[03:18] <DarkNyan> @DarwinSurvivor I'm not sure if this applies to me because A. I have no option to disable RAID through my BIOS B. Intel RAID is Firmware, not Hardware C. He seems to be attempting to install to another disk. /Tag Jordan_U
[03:19] <icecube45> Arall what was it again
[03:19] <arall> icecube45: cat /etc/network/interfaces
[03:19] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: the live-cd contains tools that can be used to test how the BIOS (firmware) is presenting the drives and hopefully get a better idea of what is happening.
[03:19] <DarkNyan> @DarwinSurvivor Sure, you want me to boot into the Desktop or Alternate CD?
[03:19] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: unfortunately, such tools are not as easy to use in windows, nor are many of the #ubuntu helpers familiar with them
[03:19] <Jordan_U> DarkNyan: Desktop.
[03:20] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: desktop if you can
[03:20] <DarkNyan> Sure, is there a builtin IRC client in the LiveCD?
[03:20] <icecube45> Arall, auto lo, newline, iface lo inet looping
[03:21] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: I believe x-chat is in it, if not, use http://webchat.freenode.net/
[03:22] <icecube45> Arall?
[03:22] <DarkNyan> Thanks, I'll BRB, if there is a overwhelming amount of help requests, I'm always happy to wait :)
[03:22] <Jordan_U> DarkNyan: Yes, but it's not great. I would recommend either going to http://webchat.freenode.net or installing xchat (which is possible froin the LiveCD environment) instead of using Empathy.
[03:22] <DarwinSurvivor> Jordan_U: he's gone
[03:23] <arall> icecube45: hold on, that gets rid of my first idea
[03:23] <icecube45> K
[03:24] <spyder83> I'm having a problem with Ubuntu 10.04 and the Intel Turbo Mode for a first gen i7 920. It won't boot. I get a kernel panic about the cpu if I leave turbo mode enabled. If I disable it, it boots just fine. Anyone have similar problems?
[03:25] <aman_> Darwin, pavucontrol and alsamixer look fine.
[03:26] <Jordan_U> spyder83: I haven't heard of a computer with a "Turbo" mode in decades :) I'm assuming this isn't the same as the old turbo buttons, so what does this actually do?
[03:26] <icecube45> Arall... Sitting here with no internet :3
[03:27] <DarkNyan_> @DarwinSurvivor @Jordan_U http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072449/
[03:27] <spyder83> Jordan: it's not. It's a feature in intel cpu's that basically allows you to bump up an extra multiplyer when proccessing get's intense
[03:27] <bz> aman_: no sound?
[03:27] <RED_> ok darwin I solved the first thingy but now after it install the software I get error code 1
[03:28] <DarwinSurvivor> RED_: which software? the wine PPA?
[03:28] <spyder83> Jordan: it's not anything you do manually. You just enable it and it increases the multiplyer by one when it needs to
[03:28] <aman_> yup bz
[03:28] <bz> aman_: mplayer an mp3 file
[03:28] <aman_> no sound
[03:28] <arall> icecube45: I missed when you first described the problem. You have no icon for wireless, right?
[03:28] <InferiorHuman> Jordan_U, goes from like 3.4 to 3.8ghz when it needs it on new ivy bridge cpu's so basically 400mhz which is nothing compared to the 1gig you can easily oc it
[03:28] <icecube45> And no connection arall
[03:28] <RED_> apt-get gives me that error
[03:28] <Jordan_U> DarkNyan_: OK, no sign of FakeRAID there. Try following this guide and post any error messages you get (if any): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#ChRoot
[03:29] <RED_> but the software is install just fine
[03:29] <bz> aman_: aplay /dev/urandom
[03:29] <Jordan_U> !bug | spyder83
[03:29] <LeJoker> Evening, #ubuntu, I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to check if a certain program is listening on a particular IP?
[03:29] <aman_> cant hear anything
[03:29] <aman_> all volumes ok
[03:29] <DarkNyan_> Sure thing Jordan_U DarwinSurvivor
[03:29] <Jordan_U> spyder83: In this case, since it's a kernel panic, you want "ubuntu-bug linux".
[03:29] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan_: that shows you having *2* hard drives, a Sony 4GB and a Samsung 640GB. Is it by any chance a "hybrid" (hdd+ssd) drive?
[03:29] <LeJoker> And if neccesary, how to change that
[03:30] <bz> aman_: are your speakers on?
[03:30] <jrdnn> LeJoker: netstat?
[03:30] <RED_> DarwinSurvivor I get this error E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:30] <RED_> it install fine now tho
[03:30] <aman_> yup
[03:30] <arall> icecube45: what's the output of lspci | grep 'Network' ?
[03:30] <DarwinSurvivor> RED_: for help installing software from a PPA, you need to contact the PPA developer. If you need help with any other software (including the *official* wine version), we can help you with that
[03:30] <LeJoker> jrdnn: I have one running, how do I tell which program is which?
[03:30] <icecube45> 2 secs
[03:31] <spyder83> Jordan_U: Like submit a bug report?
[03:31] <Jordan_U> spyder83: Yes (after confirming that one hasn't been filed already).
[03:32] <spyder83> ok
[03:33] <ceti331> hi - does the 'utouch-geis' library have a commandline debug mode (e.g. display touch info)
[03:33] <jrdnn> LeJoker: lsof -Pnl -M -i4 for ipv4 or -i6 for ipv6, sudo apt-get install lsof maybe needed
[03:33] <silv3r_m00n> I am getting this make: dh_testdir: Command not found
[03:33] <silv3r_m00n> what package do I need to install
[03:34] <DarwinSurvivor> !find dh_testdir | silv3r_m00n
[03:34] <DarkNyan_> @Jordan_U Is it Linux or Linux swap/Solaris?
[03:34] <LeJoker> jrdnn: I'm new-ish to ubuntu, what does lsof do?
[03:34] <icecube45> Arall, broadcam corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[03:34] <DarwinSurvivor> LeJoker: lists all processing that are using the specified file
[03:34] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan_: did you see my question above?
[03:35] <DarwinSurvivor> LeJoker: to learn what any command does run "man _the_command's_name_here_" and it will explain it (and show how to use it)
[03:35] <DarkNyan_> No, sorry @darwin, kinda hard to see when you ask me when you don't get alerts when you are mentioned.
[03:35] <arall> icecube45: do you have b43-fwcutter installed?
[03:35] <LeJoker> DarwinSurvivor: Ah, thanks :)
[03:35] <icecube45> What arall?
[03:36] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan_: that shows you having *2* hard drives, a Sony 4GB and a Samsung 640GB. Is it by any chance a "hybrid" (hdd+ssd) drive?
[03:36] <DarkNyan_> @DarwinSurvivor, that is my USB flash drive which is loading my USB flash drive.
[03:36] <DarkNyan_> *LiveCD
[03:36] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan_: ah, that makes sense!
[03:36] <Jordan_U> DarkNyan_: Your Ubuntu partition is the one listed as just "Linux" (sda5).
[03:36] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan_: just a second, reviewing your convo from a while ago for something...
[03:36] <icecube45> Arall, this just started after a reboot
[03:37] <arall> icecube45: so your wireless was working before?
[03:37] <icecube45> Yes
[03:37] <bikcmp> was today a release day or something?
[03:37] <DarkNyan_> DarwinSurvivor Jordan_U doesn't seem to be working
[03:37] <DarkNyan_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda5 mount: can't find /dev/sda5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[03:37] <bikcmp> the ubuntu mirrors seem to be going /extremely/ slow
[03:37] <DarkNyan_> Sorry, my mistake
[03:38] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan_: did you install grub to sdb by accident?
[03:38] <Jordan_U> DarkNyan_: Re-read the command you're supposed to run in step #5.
[03:38] <arall> icecube45: did you update anything before restarting?
[03:38] <icecube45> No
[03:38] <DarkNyan_> @Jordan_U @DarwinSurvivor Sorry, I forgot the /mnt @DarwinSurvivor No, I didn't install GRUB at all.
[03:39] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan_: do you remember what error you got while installing?
[03:40] <DarkNyan_> @DarwinSurvivor Fatal Error: Grub could not be installed to /dev/sd something/
[03:40] <icecube45> Arall, didnt update3
[03:40] <arall> icecube45: hm. Humor me and tell me what the output of the following is: dpkg-query -l b43-*
[03:41] <DarkNyan_> @Jordan_U Which drive do I install GRUB to? The normal Linux Sda?
[03:41] <DarwinSurvivor> !fixgrub | DarkNyan_ try the following
[03:41] <icecube45> No packages found maching b43-*
[03:41] <icecube45> Arall ^^^^
[03:41] <zjhui> hi,  i have follow the help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen  to install the xen.  But when  i  install the  xen-hypervisor-amd64 and update-grub . When i reboot the system , i can't find the xen kernel in grub
[03:41] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan_: be back in 5 minutes
[03:42] <dr_willis> DarkNyan_:  if you are booting drive sda, then yes. it goes on sda. not sda1
[03:42] <arall> icecube45: aha. sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[03:42] <DarkNyan_> @Dr_willis Doesn't work that way I believe /sda/ is a harddrive with no free space or used space.
[03:42] <taime1> Hello. I have a machine that will only boot linux (many flavors) in like 8 bit color mode.. installing nvidia drivers doesnt help at all. Windows runs fine. Any idea what it could be?
[03:42] <DarkNyan_> @DarwinSurvivor Sure, no problems.
[03:42] <dr_willis> DarkNyan_:  the mbr of the drive is a very tiny part. even if the hd is full. you can write to the mbr.
[03:43] <icecube45> Um arall, no internet connection..
[03:43] <dr_willis> DarkNyan_:  and theres no need for @ on irc....
[03:43] <arall> icecube45: lol sorry forgot you are lacking internet
[03:43] <icecube45> Ya..
[03:43] <zjhui> should i editor the grub.cfg manually ?
[03:43] <arall> icecube45: Can you plug an ethernet cable in?
[03:43] <icecube45> Yes
[03:43] <icecube45> But...
[03:43] <DarkNyan_> @dr_Willis Nope, Can;t install [/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `/dev/sda/'.]
[03:43] <icecube45> That means restarting my cop, for the battery isnt charging
[03:44] <icecube45> Comp
[03:44] <Jordan_U> DarkNyan_: '/dev/sda' not '/dev/sda/'
[03:44] <dr_willis> DarkNyan_:  thats not saying sda is full. its saying it cant find sda for some reason.
[03:44] <dr_willis> Jordan_U:  good catch
[03:44] <DarkNyan_> @Jordan_U My mistake :( Have a cookie @dr_willis I do it as a habit, sorry if that bothers you :(
[03:45] <dr_willis> seems using @ all the time .. would get very annoying.. and hurt your hand.. ;)
[03:45] <dr_willis> DarkNyan_:  use the tab key toi complete nicks..
[03:46] <DarkNyan_> Nice tip :) dr_willis
[03:46] <DarkNyan_> It looks like it works now. I'm going to try. Thanks dr_willis , DarwinSurvivor , Jordan_U
[03:46] <dr_willis> as we said @is pointless on irc. ;) and slows you down
[03:46] <dr_willis> plus @ means somthing totally differnt on IRc
[03:49] <arall> icecube45: OK. If you can access the internet on the computer with ethernet, run sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter. Otherwise, you can follow the directions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43_-_No_Internet_access
[03:50] <bz> !manners
[03:50] <DarkNyan> Thanks guys :) dr_willis DarwinSurvivor Jordan_U  You fixed everything :)
[03:50] <Jordan_U> DarkNyan: You're welcome.
[03:51] <devslash> i set up samba and created a share and restarted smbd but i can't access my share from another  computer
[03:51] <dr_willis> devslash:  you gave the user a samba password via 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' ?
[03:51] <devslash> no
[03:52] <devslash> but I'm not even getting a prompt
[03:52] <dr_willis> you set up a guest share?  tryed accessing the server via its ip#?
[03:52] <devslash> i am using its ip
[03:52] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: just got back and read the scroll-back. good to hear it's fixed!
[03:53] <dr_willis> devslash:  so what  os is accessing the share?  whats the shares name?
[03:53] <devslash> not sure what to do
[03:53] <DarkNyan> DarwinSurvivor: YAY! Just need to find the grub-customizer package now.
[03:53] <devslash> I'm trying to connect to it from a mac
[03:54] <DarkNyan> Does anyone know the Grub Customizer package name?
[03:54] <dr_willis> devslash:  can the mac ping the linux box? and i do think macs can handle nfs  shares and ssh.
[03:54] <devslash> yra
[03:54] <devslash> yea
[03:54] <dr_willis> DarkNyan:  not sure there is one in the default repos.
[03:55] <DarwinSurvivor> DarkNyan: not sure either, check out grub on http://help.ubunt.com that may help
[03:55] <DarkNyan> Coolios.
[04:06] <dr_willis> it just got real quiet... :) ...
[04:11] <devslash> I'm trying to get samba working. once i edit the configuration file, i did sudo restart smbd. is there any other service i have to restart ?
[04:12] <devslash> dr_willis: watchu talkin about
[04:12] <dr_willis> sudo service samba restart (i think, or similer)
[04:12] <dr_willis> Im not even sure you need to restart it any more these days. Many services se eyou change their configs and auto restart
[04:12] <jrdnn> devslash: 10 minutes with no messages in a channel with hundreds of people logged in?
[04:13] <dr_willis> see  if the linux box sees its own shares.   via findsmb and smbtree commands. or the file manager
[04:16] <V3NG3NC3678> Someone convince me to install ubuntu 12 or whatever the latest version is
[04:17] <dr_willis> V3NG3NC3678:  use what you want.. it dosnet matter to us. we dont get a comission.
[04:17] <V3NG3NC3678> I want to
[04:17] <dr_willis> 12.04 is the latest. 12.10 is in testing
[04:17] <V3NG3NC3678> but unity makes me want stab penciles in my eyes
[04:17] <dr_willis> get over it.. unity works very well.
[04:17] <jrdnn> V3NG3NC3678: You can use whatever theme you want, unity isn't required for Ubuntu or any other Linux distro
[04:17] <dr_willis> i got my unity tweaked very well. the hud is handy. and lenss save me a lot of time.
[04:18] <V3NG3NC3678> can I just not install it or remove it?
[04:18] <devslash> dr_willis: smbtree doesn't show anything
[04:18] <dr_willis> quicklists are also a nice feature that are only getting better
[04:18] <dr_willis> theres other desktops you can install./ this is linux. :)
[04:18] <jrdnn> sudo apt-get install kde or whatever
[04:18] <dr_willis> gnome-shell is ppopular -- it deoends on what you want
[04:18] <SwedeMike> actually, unity in the latest incarnation (12.04) works pretty well, you just have to get used to it. I've started to like to find my applications by means of pressing the windows key and then typing the name, then using cursor keys to find and then enter to select. Using the mouse is a lot more cumbersome.
[04:18] <t1m310rd> does anyone know of a way to install a repository's full contents automatically?
[04:19] <dr_willis> theres some unofficial unity tweaks/addons that hopefully get included by default in 12.10 ;)
[04:19] <V3NG3NC3678> ok I am going in DL it now
[04:19] <devslash> dr_willis i added an entry in smb.conf [share] comment=some comment path=/full/path/to/shared/folder/ browseable=yes guest_ok=no read_only=yes
[04:19] <dr_willis> saw a nice quicklists tweak that gives every apps icon a list of each window.
[04:20] <stochastic> can anyone help me mount a Canon EOS 350D camera?
[04:20] <V3NG3NC3678> Does AMrk come in here at all anymore?
[04:20] <dr_willis> devslash:  as a test. you could make a guest share, or try enableing the home share.
[04:20] <dr_willis> devslash:  about all i do these days is enable the Homes Share. and perhaps share /media/
[04:21] <devslash> is what i did correct ?
[04:22] <t1m310rd> I need to install the backtrack utities on a normal Kubuntu install, i added the repositories, but i don't really know how to install everything from them.
[04:22] <V3NG3NC3678> 17 m for DL
[04:23] <bz> asl?
[04:23] <dr_willis> devslash:  looks ok. but i always just cut and paste examples from the comnents
[04:24] <V3NG3NC3678> t1m310rd - don't bother
[04:24] <V3NG3NC3678> the kernals will not work
[04:25] <dr_willis> synaptic can show whats in a specific repo.
[04:25] <ignerious> how to remove broken or corupted installation packages???
[04:25] <dr_willis> apt-get clean      perhaps.
[04:26] <danub> how do i get a bottom bar in untiy?
[04:26] <Num83rGuy> Every time I start Ktorrent from command line or script I get errors.  http://pastebin.com/tzbJEtJL
[04:26] <danub> this autohide side bar is pissing me off
[04:26] <dr_willis> use a dock
[04:27] <dr_willis> !dock
[04:27] <dr_willis> set it to not hide. ;)
[04:27] <danub> i have to download a dock package for this?
[04:27] <V3NG3NC3678> So what is a good program that can transmit music liek a DJ over AAC?
[04:27] <danub> really?
[04:27] <V3NG3NC3678> something that is in the cloud
[04:28] <ignerious> Please help me to fix this problem http://pastebin.com/yL9mnfFf
[04:28] <dr_willis> unity is on the side.. unoficial hacks to move it.
[04:28] <danub> but there is no way to unautohide that sucker?
[04:28] <ignerious> Please help me to fix this problem http://pastebin.com/yL9mnfFf
[04:28] <dr_willis> mine dosent hide...
[04:29] <dr_willis> 12.04 default is to not hide
[04:29] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[04:29] <jrdnn> ignerious: sudo apt-get install gnome-wine-icon-theme
[04:29] <danub> dr_willis: how did you do that then? all my apps either cause it to autohide
[04:30] <dr_willis> danub:  its the default. i did nothing
[04:30] <ignerious> same error
[04:30] <ignerious> what to do
[04:30] <ignerious> how should i remove them
[04:30] <ignerious> ???
[04:30] <danub> not on mine :(
[04:30] <bindian> does any one knows the best alternative of evernote on Ubuntu (please don't suggest wine or same)
[04:30] <dr_willis> myunity has settings for it also
[04:30] <V3NG3NC3678> someone dance with me!
[04:30] <V3NG3NC3678> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULjCSK0oOlI
[04:30] <linux_is_my_hero> whats the deal with new computers from other os's not allowing linux installs?
[04:31] <linux_is_my_hero> seems like a monopoly to me
[04:31] <V3NG3NC3678> lol,.. you just noticing this?
[04:31] <babygotaface> if there is anyway to get instant notification receiving email with any mail notification script or anything like that?
[04:31] <V3NG3NC3678> try installing ubuntu on crapple
[04:31] <dr_willis> linux_is_my_hero: 4primary partions in use makes it a pain
[04:32] <danub> how do i get to perferances?
[04:32] <danub> i only have system tools
[04:32] <linux_is_my_hero> dr_willis: meaning windows 7 has 4 partitions, or ubuntu has 4?  i thought ubuntu had 2. :-(
[04:32] <ignerious> help
[04:32] <ignerious> please
[04:32] <linux_is_my_hero> dr_Willis: i feel stupid.
[04:33] <linux_is_my_hero> danub: do you have a gui?
[04:33] <ignerious> ????
[04:33] <ignerious> please
[04:34] <danub> yea, but its goofed
[04:34] <dr_willis> linux_is_my_hero:  many new pcs come with windows7 and are partioned with windows and the revovery partions to use 4 primary partitions. which makes it a real pain to install linux on the hard drivce.
[04:34] <danub> i cant even scroll the unity search results
[04:34] <linux_is_my_hero> ignerious: i just got here.  what is your problem? :-)
[04:34] <linux_is_my_hero> danub: what if you use keyboard shortcuts to bring up the tty?
[04:34] <ignerious> Please help me to fix this problem http://pastebin.com/yL9mnfFf
[04:34] <dr_willis> danub:  theres commands to totally reset unity bac to defaults
[04:35] <ignerious> see the link
[04:35] <ignerious> i have posted it
[04:35] <linux_is_my_hero> dr_willis: linux can't just format the hdd with the ubuntu file system?
[04:35] <danub> dr_willis: oh please tell me, i gotta get this fixed. this will drive me absolutely batshit
[04:35] <danub> linux_is_my_hero: EFI secure boot
[04:35] <dr_willis> linux_is_my_hero:  if you have 4 primary partitions in use.. and want to keep them all.. you  are going to have issues installing linux. since you cant make any more partitions
[04:36] <dr_willis> danub:  unity --reset  i belive is the main command.
[04:36] <danub> dr_willis: ok, ill give that a shot
[04:36] <linux_is_my_hero> dr_willis: i see...you'd have to get another hdd and pull your files over, then format the windows drive and set it up for ubuntu.
[04:36] <dr_willis> danub:  the omgubuntu or webupd8 blog site detauls  secceral commands to reset unity and compiz  and gnome back to defaults
[04:36] <dr_willis> linux_is_my_hero:  i just buy a 2nd hd and put the original somewhere  safe. ;)
[04:36] <danub> i cant do it because i get a D-BUS error :(
[04:37] <linux_is_my_hero> dr_willis: anything else, like a chip on the motherboard that would keep ubuntu from being installed?  i know nothign of it, but i've heard rumours :-(
[04:37] <dr_willis> linux_is_my_hero:  thats supposed to be in windows8/arm hardware  - so far rumors and rants..
[04:37] <danub> linux_is_my_hero: the secure boot is a problem. locks in an OS
[04:37] <ghostchick> unity --reset
[04:37] <danub> unity --reset gives an error, cant do it
[04:38] <linux_is_my_hero> ignerious: do you have any personal files on that computer that you want to keep?
[04:38] <ignerious> no
[04:38] <linux_is_my_hero> ignerious: in your case, i would reinstall ubuntu.
[04:38] <dr_willis> danub:  log out, do it from the console perhaps. and log back in.   or you got deeper isues going on.
[04:38] <linux_is_my_hero> download and burn the iso on a neighbor's computer or something
[04:38] <ignerious> sad :(
[04:38] <danub> dr_willis: probably deeper. i have been doing upgrades since 7.04
[04:38] <linux_is_my_hero> ignerious: i know, but it will take longer to fix it than to reinstall it
[04:39] <danub> haven't done a full install since
[04:39] <dr_willis> danub:  id suggest a clean install then.
[04:39] <ignerious> no way you can fix it???
[04:39] <dr_willis> i never upgrade.  releases
[04:39] <danub> ill try to log out and do it from the commandline. thanks for the help
[04:39] <linux_is_my_hero> ignerious: i know just enough to get by, which is why i would reinstall.  but can you fix unity in the hour it takes for ubuntu to install?  that's what it will come down to.
[04:40] <ignerious> ohhhh
[04:40] <linux_is_my_hero> ugnerious: on the other hand, this is also an opportunity for you to learn.  if you are the patient type, and you can break the problem into little pieces and make a plan, then you can fix it without reinstalling, and learn a whole lot about linux
[04:40]  * dr_willis dident even see ignerious 's issue..
[04:41] <linux_is_my_hero> ignerious: dr_Willis seems very knowledgable.
[04:41] <linux_is_my_hero> ignerious: you could ask him.  sorry i can't help, i have class tomorrow and its getting late.
[04:41] <linux_is_my_hero> dr_Willis: what is secure boot?
[04:41] <dr_willis> no need to msg me ignerious ..
[04:41] <ignerious> ok
[04:42] <ddelony> Hi.
[04:42] <ddelony> My 12.04 netbook hangs on boot.
[04:42] <dr_willis> linux_is_my_hero:  a complex topic that  you may want to check out the wiki pages and other blog sites.
[04:43] <ddelony> Oh wait, I was able to boot into recovery mode.
[04:43] <ignerious> dr_ willis: please help
[04:43] <dr_willis> ignerious:  and the issue is?
[04:43] <linuxtech> I think I have a filesystem issue, we had some power fluctuations with that Derecho storm blew through.  I have tried touch /forcefsck and debsums and that hasn't helped.  Any suggestions?
[04:44] <ignerious> I have send you the link in pm please see it
[04:44] <dr_willis> linuxtech:  fsck by hand from a live cd.
[04:44] <dr_willis> ignerious:  you could at least summarize the issue.. people tend to ignore it otherwise
[04:45] <linuxtech> Machine doesn't have a CD, so I will need get a USB memeory thing or get a harddrive ready to boot with usb...
[04:45] <linuxtech> Not tonight..,
[04:45] <dr_willis> linuxtech:  i always keep a spare usb key in my pc toolbox.
[04:45] <ignerious> i cannot i dont know how to summerise this issue
[04:45] <ignerious> please see it
[04:45] <majest_> can anyone help configuring a static IP on ubuntu server 12.04?
[04:46] <P-Chan> I want to use abrowser but can't run here. why?
[04:47] <HaltingState> a taskbar should be an option in unity; who made the decision to destroy the operating system
[04:47] <dr_willis> your summary would be  'you are having package manager issues'
[04:48] <JoseeAntonioR> HaltingState: You can choose to use other desktop environments if you're willing to.
[04:48] <ignerious> yes that is it
[04:48] <ddelony> I've run a fsck in recovery mode and now it seems to boo okay. I've had this happen several times already.
[04:48] <ignerious> please help me now
[04:48] <dr_willis> and i can barely read that log. im on my cell phone.   check the askubuntu.com site and forums perhaps for how to fix up apt/packages when they get confused. i rarely need tomess with apt-get in that depth
[04:49] <majest_> can anyone help configuring a static IP on ubuntu server 12.04?
[04:49] <JoseeAntonioR> !patience |  majest_
[04:50] <dr_willis> majest_:  check askubuntu.com ? i think its a single file you edit. but ive never done it myself.
[04:50] <HaltingState> JoseeAntonioR, not having a task bar should not be a choice.  Its like saying the jews under hilter "had a choice" to leave germany
[04:50] <majest_> i have for 11.04 and it worked fine but i'm having no luck
[04:50] <ignerious> any on can help me???
[04:50] <ignerious> please
[04:51] <JoseeAntonioR> HaltingState: Please, keep this channel for support only. Opinions are greatly appreciated in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[04:51] <dr_willis> you can easially use a dock with unity. or some other simple taskbar addones
[04:52] <V3NG3NC3678> Installing it now!
[04:52] <ignerious> Please help me to fix this problem http://pastebin.com/yL9mnfFf
[04:52] <V3NG3NC3678> WOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo!
[04:52] <ignerious> anyone ?????
[04:52] <V3NG3NC3678> widing out win 7!
[04:52] <V3NG3NC3678> wipeing*
[04:52] <V3NG3NC3678> lol
[04:52] <V3NG3NC3678> by by win 7
[04:52] <dr_willis> ignerious:  you should give a summary of whats it about.. most people wont read a url just to discover they have no idea how to fix the probloem...
[04:52] <ignerious> yes yes
[04:52] <JoseeAntonioR> V3NG3NC3678: Please, stop flooding the channel.
[04:53] <V3NG3NC3678> I'm excited :P
[04:53] <sede> ANYONE from those present here to set up a server group softwared
[04:53] <dandaman> hi all, i recently got a dinovo edge keyboard and some of the keys are on it are inactive
[04:53] <dandaman> i wanna manually set the keycodes but i cant figure out what they are
[04:53] <KM0201> V3NG3NC3678: have you ever used ubuntu?
[04:53] <dandaman> can anyone help me set this up pleasE?
[04:53] <dandaman> im on 10.04
[04:53] <V3NG3NC3678> back in 9.10
[04:54] <V3NG3NC3678> I tried doing 10 etc but for soem reason my graphics card wouldn't boot the GUI
[04:54] <JoseeAntonioR> dandaman: Please, explain keycodes.
[04:54] <ignerious>  'I am having package manager issues' please help
[04:54] <dr_willis> dandaman:  on a weird keyboarad once i got lucky and found a nice guide in the forums on setting  it up. ;) but i think it might have been the archlinux forums.. heh.
[04:54] <ignerious>  'I am having package manager issues' please help
[04:54] <V3NG3NC3678> ironically that was with a Dell
[04:54] <V3NG3NC3678> lol
[04:54] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | V3NG3NC3678
[04:54] <JoseeAntonioR> ignerious: Please, develop the issue and stop repeating your question.
[04:54] <ignerious> Please help me to fix this problem http://pastebin.com/yL9mnfFf
[04:55] <majest_> Has anyone had the error "an inet prefix is expected rathr than" when configuring a static IP on 12.04 server
[04:55] <V3NG3NC3678> now for the million dollar question,.. how do I ride myself of unity?
[04:55] <dr_willis> V3NG3NC3678:  and you have actually USED unity for what? 20 sec now?
[04:55] <linux_is_my_hero> Lol im on android right now :-)
[04:56] <V3NG3NC3678> not even,.. it's not even installed
[04:56] <dr_willis> V3NG3NC3678:  install any of the other dozen window  managers/ or desktops out there...
[04:56] <V3NG3NC3678> I just don't want it
[04:56] <JoseeAntonioR> V3NG3NC3678: In the login screen, click on the srew icon. You'll find other options there.
[04:56] <majest_> sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[04:56] <CellTech> it makes me chuckle. We linux peoples have so many programs to do some odd stuff. But no one has figured out how to break open and closed CD-R and reuse it.. I don't use CD's. So I only need this 1 to fix a dumb dell laptop that doesn't boot from usb
[04:56] <dandaman> damn i think i might have to hack around in the bios for this one :\
[04:56] <linux_is_my_hero> Dandaman: yeah the older bios are like that :-(
[04:57] <dandaman> yeah xev isnt picking up these key presses
[04:57] <dandaman> this mobo is like a year old :\
[04:57] <V3NG3NC3678> the login after I install it?
[04:57] <dr_willis> dandaman:  check the tail of 'dmesg' output it may have some info
[04:57] <linux_is_my_hero> Dandaman: i got nothin. Sorry :-(
[04:57] <dr_willis> V3NG3NC3678:  the login screen has a 'gear' icon that lets you pick what desktop to use
[04:57] <shal3r> "recovery mode" in 12.04 now runs X, not single user mode. Is it possible to override that from grub?
[04:57] <dandaman> i did, didnt say anything
[04:57] <V3NG3NC3678> oh sweet
[04:57] <V3NG3NC3678> did not know that
[04:58] <dr_willis> i bet theres a lot about Unity you dont know either...
[04:59] <V3NG3NC3678> I am actually kinda excited
[04:59]  * dr_willis must have 24 items in that Gear/session icon menu on his Login screen..
[05:00] <V3NG3NC3678> I been waiting to try ubuntu 10+ for a while now
[05:00] <dr_willis> some of the docks even add their own 'dock + just a window manager' entry
[05:00]  * dr_willis is using 12.04 :)
[05:00] <dandaman> god i hope the bios has something for me....
[05:00] <dandaman> be back in a minute
[05:00] <V3NG3NC3678> Tho as I said earlyer
[05:00] <OerHeks> V3NG3NC3678, now you know nomodeset, have fun.
[05:00] <ignerious> JoseeAntonioR: have you got the link??
[05:01] <V3NG3NC3678> I really need a broadcaster for AAC, any programs for that?
[05:01] <sede> help me,ANYONE from those present here to set up a server group softwared
[05:01] <dr_willis> broadcaster? Like a UPNP server? DLNA stuff to stream to devices in the house?
[05:01] <linux_is_my_hero> Ignerious: i got irc on my android phone
[05:01] <JoseeAntonioR> ignerious: I'm sorry, but I can't help you with that now.
[05:01] <bent-stack> Hi all,  is there a way to filter the Ubuntu IRC channels to focus on one discussion - People often post a wealth of usefull diagnotic information..but the discussion is often hard to follow later - from http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[05:02] <linux_is_my_hero> Ignerious: have you gotten to the tty yet?
[05:02] <V3NG3NC3678> No to stream to a server
[05:02] <V3NG3NC3678> on win I use Sam broadcaster
[05:02] <dr_willis> hmm. normally the server streams to  the clients...
[05:02] <V3NG3NC3678> I am the broadcaster
[05:02] <V3NG3NC3678> broadcaster ---> server -- clients
[05:03] <OerHeks> try mixx &  icecast
[05:03] <majest_> Has anyone had the error "an inet prefix is expected rathr than" when configuring a static IP on 12.04 server
[05:03] <V3NG3NC3678> what is Mixx?
[05:03] <dr_willis> !info mixx
[05:04] <dr_willis> !info icecast
[05:04] <sede> halp me, ANYONE from those present here to set up a server group softwared
[05:04] <OerHeks> !info mixxx
[05:04] <dr_willis> must be under differnt package names
[05:04] <OerHeks> icecast is not in the repo's, i guess. but suitable for streaming.
[05:04] <dr_willis> sede:  perhaps tell the channel what you mean by a 'server group softwared'
[05:05] <V3NG3NC3678> is mixx on the repos?
[05:05] <OerHeks> V3NG3NC3678, sure
[05:05] <dr_willis> V3NG3NC3678:  bot says mixxx is ;)
[05:05] <dr_willis> apt-cache search shoutcast     perhaps to find similer apps..
[05:06] <shal3r> Is it possible to disable X startup via boot option in grub?
[05:07] <V3NG3NC3678> shal3R!
[05:07] <V3NG3NC3678> wher do I know you from?
[05:07] <aeon-ltd> shal3r: you mean stop gdm from starting? i don't think so grub only does kernel boot options iirc
[05:09] <shal3r> aeon-ltd, that's bad. My mouse and keyboard is not working in X, so i can do nothing
[05:09] <ghostchick> shal3r,  change the init lvl
[05:09] <shal3r> ghostchick, how?
[05:10] <sede> dr_willis, thanks for the sigerencia
[05:10] <sede> I could help, they mean by group server software, the truth I have to configure one but I have no idea that setting, there is little information on this type of server
[05:14] <majest_> Has anyone had the error "an inet prefix is expected rather than..." when configuring a static IP on 12.04 server
[05:15] <dandaman> wonderful...my mobo doesnt have a bios
[05:15] <dandaman> how is this even possible
[05:15] <bent-stack> majest_: what command are u using to set the ip?
[05:16] <V3NG3NC3678> so any guess as to why my GPU wouldn't display the GUI from 10+?
[05:16] <sede> I could help, they mean by group server software, the truth I have to configure one, but I have no idea that you could set set, there is little information on this type of server
[05:18] <aeon-ltd> dandaman: not possible unless it has a uefi instead
[05:19] <sede> channel someone has knowledge about groupware servers
[05:19] <sede> ??
[05:20] <dandaman> nvm, it was delete
[05:20] <randomDude> sede: indeed some channel might
[05:21] <linux_is_my_hero> V3ng3nc3678: what about keyboard shortcuts on boot before the os starts to load? :-(
[05:21] <OerHeks> V3NG3NC3678, a shile back you were given the grub solution with nomodeset
[05:21] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[05:21] <V3NG3NC3678> yup that was prolly ti
[05:22] <linux_is_my_hero> V3ng3nc3678: i had that issue too with a nvidea card. :-(
[05:22] <V3NG3NC3678> if I remember right I had a ATI in that dell
[05:23] <V3NG3NC3678> dell is worst for linux I think
[05:23] <devslash> i want my server to have a static ip so i added this to /etc/network/interfaces auto eth0 faceeth0 inet static
[05:23] <OerHeks> V3NG3NC3678, if it is ATI, then it is so old that even nouveau doesn't support it.
[05:23] <devslash> address 192.168.1.32 net mask 255.255.255.0
[05:23] <V3NG3NC3678> that was an e-1505
[05:24] <V3NG3NC3678> had a dual core
[05:24] <V3NG3NC3678> so wasn't that bad
[05:24] <sede> randomDude , what you mean
[05:25] <V3NG3NC3678> i dunno what is worse\
[05:25] <sede> randomDude: what you mean
[05:25] <V3NG3NC3678> dual 1.6 or cingle 2.1ghz
[05:25] <V3NG3NC3678> lol
[05:26] <OerHeks> V3NG3NC3678, with flash you would want dual core.
[05:26] <V3NG3NC3678> nah I got a main rig for that
[05:26] <devslash> i want my server to have a static ip so i added this to /etc/network/interfaces: auto eth0
[05:26] <devslash> iface eth0 inet static
[05:26] <devslash> address 192.168.1.32
[05:26] <devslash> netmask 255.255.255.0
[05:26] <devslash> gateway 192.168.1.1
[05:26] <FloodBot1> devslash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:26] <V3NG3NC3678> that one is a monster
[05:26] <devslash> when i boot i get an ip but i can't access outside of my lan
[05:26] <V3NG3NC3678> 24 cores on that one :)
[05:26] <linux_is_my_hero> V3ng3nc3678: thats what she said lol
[05:27] <V3NG3NC3678> main PC is a server computer
[05:27] <devslash> can anyone tell me if I'm doing something wrong ?
[05:27] <OerHeks> V3NG3NC3678, well this is getting offtopic. find the ati card specs, so we can help you.
[05:28] <V3NG3NC3678> Well this is a Toshiba,. that was old news
[05:28] <linux_is_my_hero> Devslash: is your router blocking your mac address from the internet?
[05:28] <V3NG3NC3678> looks like it is working fine on this one
[05:28] <devslash> no i don't use mac blocking
[05:28] <V3NG3NC3678> tho I didn't see the login screen cause I diabled it
[05:28] <linux_is_my_hero> Devslash: anything changed from when you were able to get to the internet? Upgrades, hardware changes?
[05:28] <devslash> hmm i did dhclient eth0 and it now it works
[05:28] <OerHeks> devslash, if you can ping, yhen you have no dns in dnsresolve.conf
[05:29] <devslash> well i don't understand why i need to do dhclient
[05:30] <linux_is_my_hero> Devslash: i had this problem too.  My ethernet cable was damaged.
[05:30] <OerHeks> devslash, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[05:31] <V3NG3NC3678> yummi more ati drivers
[05:31] <V3NG3NC3678> atleast this one loads I guess
[05:31] <V3NG3NC3678> looks like radio shack around my room
[05:31] <V3NG3NC3678> lol
[05:32] <devslash> OerHeks:  but how can i make it load automatically
[05:33] <elisa87> what's the reason for this error? my internet is connected E: Unable to locate package help
[05:33] <OerHeks> devslash, we need more info for that, paste your etc/network/interfaces @ use paste.ubuntu.com  and give the url here
[05:34] <devslash> ahh i figured it out
[05:34] <devslash> i added a dns-nameservers line in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:35] <gRAVIty_> can someone tell how I can do a USB install for ubuntu 12.10. The normal methods do not work because they dont yet support ubuntu 12.10
[05:35] <V3NG3NC3678> what is post delivery driver?
[05:35] <linux_is_my_hero> Ahh, lemme guess..secure boot?
[05:35] <OerHeks> gRAVIty_, join #ubuntu+1 for QQ 12.10
[05:36] <gRAVIty_> Thanks
[05:36] <NewLappy> just got a new HP ProBook. The HP_TOOLS look like they may be interesting and useful in the future. So now I'm looking for some definitive information on this UEFI stuff and that in conjunction with setting up a multi-boot system...except the newest information I can find is over 6 months old
[05:38] <ignerious>  'I am having package manager issues' please help
[05:38] <gRAVIty_> OerHeks: are you on ubuntu+1?
[05:38] <ignerious>  'I am having package manager issues' please help
[05:38] <OerHeks> gRAVIty_, nope
[05:38] <ignerious> Please help me to fix this problem http://pastebin.com/yL9mnfFf
[05:39] <NewLappy> ignerious, what kind of "issues" are you having?
[05:39] <OerHeks> NewLappy, this info is updated yesterday > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[05:39] <ignerious> Please help me to fix this problem http://pastebin.com/yL9mnfFf
[05:39] <V3NG3NC3678> yay it's working!
[05:39] <ignerious> http://pastebin.com/yL9mnfFf
[05:39] <aeon-ltd> ignerious: please be patient, spamming won't help
[05:40] <NewLappy> thanks OerHeks I'll see if I can make sense of that and consolidate it with my original ideas for this machine
[05:40] <OerHeks> ignerious, what are you trying to install and how did you di that?
[05:40] <ignerious> some themes through ubuntu-tweak
[05:41] <V3NG3NC3678> so where is this skrew driver you speak of?
[05:41] <dr_willis> skrew?
[05:42] <OerHeks> ignerious, on what ubuntu are you now?
[05:42] <V3NG3NC3678> options for GUI other then unity
[05:42] <ignerious> 11.10
[05:42] <V3NG3NC3678> also
[05:42] <V3NG3NC3678> FF needs to be updated
[05:42] <dr_willis> V3NG3NC3678:  themain desktops are kde, lxde, xfce and gnome-shell, and of course unity
[05:43] <V3NG3NC3678> yes where to I chgange it?
[05:43] <dr_willis> install the one you want.. use the gear icon on the login screen to select what one to use at login time...
[05:43] <V3NG3NC3678> oh great
[05:43] <dr_willis> !gnome-shell
[05:43] <V3NG3NC3678> my very first linux crash
[05:44] <Ghosthunter007> On Ubuntu Tweaks I set my logon screen wall paper and icon but its not taking affect I have also rebooted the system, could this be my policykit blocking the change
[05:44] <dr_willis> Ghosthunter007:  what ubuntu relase are you using?
[05:45] <Ghosthunter007> 12.04 64bit and 0.7.1 on Ubuntu Tweaks
[05:45] <V3NG3NC3678> ok this thing says I need to update things
[05:45] <dr_willis> 12.04 login wallpaper is set where it changes to whagtever the user has selected.
[05:45] <V3NG3NC3678> how do I do that?
[05:45] <dr_willis> V3NG3NC3678:  via the package manager tools/software center, or the cli.
[05:46] <Ghosthunter007> wall paper on desktop is ok its the logon screen that wont change
[05:46] <dr_willis> should ba icon at the left side.]
[05:46] <dandaman> there goes 2 hours of my time
[05:46] <dandaman> i give up :(
[05:46] <dr_willis> Ghosthunter007:  the login screne wallaper Changes automatically - to be the same that my user is using on his desktop
[05:47] <V3NG3NC3678> can't I do sudo apt-get update?
[05:47] <dr_willis> V3NG3NC3678:  via the package manager tools/software center, or the cli.   that would be the 'cli' method.
[05:47] <dr_willis> update, then upgrade,.. yes..
[05:47] <V3NG3NC3678> where the hell is terminal?
[05:47] <Ghosthunter007> hmm oddly it never done that, it was the default ubuntu pink
[05:48] <dr_willis> if using unity. tap the alt key. type in  'term' and it should show the icon... i always pin the icon to the panel.
[05:48] <V3NG3NC3678> found it
[05:48] <dr_willis> lunch time. bbl.
[05:48] <V3NG3NC3678> updating
[05:49] <unknerror> dose someone know where are the gnome 2.X themes located?
[05:51] <ghostchick> unknerror,  /usr/share/themes ?
[05:52]  * unknerror give a big hug to ghostchick THX!
[05:52] <immortalrites> I've tried everythign to get my ipod to work, nothing works, help
[05:52] <V3NG3NC3678> why does video seem laggy as hell?
[05:52] <ghostchick> unknerror,  thanks and no problem the user ones are in the individual homes
[05:53] <kanha_> hi
[05:53] <jrdnn> kanha_: Hello
[05:53] <immortalrites> I've really tried everything, how can I get my ipod to work on ubuntu?
[05:54] <kanha_> I am not able to update my ubuntu11.10 using sudo apt-get update ?
[05:54] <devslash> i set up ubuntu server and installed openssh. i used a complicated password for the regular user that i use. is there anything else i need to do to prevent hack attempts
[05:54] <kanha_> *.
[05:55] <Psytonic> hi all, is there a linux equivalent to netbios? or just use netbios?
[05:55] <dax> devslash: turn off password authentication and use SSH keys
[05:56] <V3NG3NC3678> hey can someone help me fix video drivers?
[05:56] <devslash> how does that work ?
[05:56] <V3NG3NC3678> this is horrible
[05:56] <ddelony> I've been having an odd problem with 12.04
[05:57] <[deXter]> V3NG3NC3678, What's the issue here?
[05:57] <dax> devslash: using SSH keys: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys | disabling password authentication: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring#Disable_Password_Authentication
[05:57] <ddelony> I have occasional hangs on booting.
[05:57] <V3NG3NC3678> how do you do that dexter like highlight my name?
[05:57] <V3NG3NC3678> the video is laggy as hell
[05:57] <V3NG3NC3678> win 7 was smooth
[05:57] <jrdnn> Psytonic: https://www.zulius.com/how-to/resolve-windows-netbios-names-from-linux/
[05:58] <fidel> ahoi
[05:59] <Psytonic> jrdnn: so theres no linux equivalent? just use netbios? or rather netbios is the standard, not just a windows thing?
[06:01] <LeJoker> Quick question: If I have a link, and a program/shortcut whatever references that link, will it access the actual location of the folder?
[06:01] <Dr_O> Psytonic: what do you mean by netbios? do you mean sharing files and printers between linux machines?
[06:02] <LeJoker> (12.04)
[06:02] <Psytonic> no, i want a name->ip service kind of thing
[06:02] <Psytonic> but not a centralised dns
[06:02] <Dr_O> unix traditionaly used DNS
[06:02] <ccb056> is the chrome search bar broken for just me or everyone?
[06:02] <Psytonic> something akin to windows broadcasting it's own name
[06:03] <Dr_O> I never understand why DNS is not what peiple want when IP/machine maping.. but maybe that is just me. You could check out boinjour/avahi type stuff
[06:03] <Psytonic> dns requires a server, thats basically it - I'm working with 6 autonamous robot peers
[06:03] <Random832> Psytonic: my system sends its hostname to the dhcp server [a netgear router] which provides dns service for the local network
[06:03] <Random832> that's fairly standard
[06:04] <Random832> how do these robot peers know their ip address?
[06:04] <Random832> how do they know their own hostname
[06:04]  * tMH is gone. nsf
[06:04] <Psytonic> Random832: thats what I'm trying to work out
[06:04] <Dr_O> with 6 just put themin /etc/hosts
[06:04] <Psytonic> I can set hostnames easily enough, but I'd rather not have to have static IPs
[06:04] <Random832> Psytonic: knowing their own ip address and own hostname is the first step, you have to have that before they can tell anyone else their hostname
[06:04] <Random832> get a dhcp server
[06:04] <Random832> or static ips
[06:04] <Random832> that is your choice
[06:05] <Psytonic> got a DHCP server, on the router
[06:05] <Random832> ok
[06:05] <Random832> so they tell the dhcp server their hostname, and it provides dns
[06:05] <Random832> just like on millions of other home networks
[06:05] <Random832> why do they need names, anyway?
[06:05] <LeJoker> Better yet: How do I change the install directory of a program, assuming I already moved the files?
[06:05] <Psytonic> hmmm...I thought u had to have some other mechanism
[06:05] <Psytonic> IP's may change
[06:05] <ghostnik11> How do u get xorg to display to tv
[06:06] <Random832> ok
[06:06] <Random832> i mean why do you need to uniquely identify them at all
[06:06] <Psytonic> so basically I just need to get them to send their hostname?
[06:06] <Random832> they're identical "robot peers", doesn't each one just need to find the ooooooother five?
[06:06] <Psytonic> Random832: yes
[06:06] <Random832> so have each one scan the local network for whatever port they listen on
[06:06] <ghostnik11> I am trying to tell my laptop to display to tv but the function key +f4 won't do it
[06:07] <Random832> or send a broadcast udp packet
[06:07] <Random832> if they're all on a local segment you've got some extra tricks available
[06:07] <Psytonic> Random832: drop outs are a big issue, dont want to have to scan
[06:07] <Psytonic> and not on a local segment
[06:07] <Random832> or you could use zerocon, which i don't understand much about - it's layered on broadcast dns
[06:07] <Random832> zeroconf
[06:07] <Psytonic> kk
[06:08] <Psytonic> hmmm
[06:08] <Psytonic> might just stick to netbios
[06:08] <Psytonic> supervisor is probably going to crack the shits if I spend too long on it, lol
[06:08] <Random832> that still leaves you having to assign hostnames to each machine
[06:08] <Psytonic> oh wait, hostnames rather
[06:08] <Random832> are you sure they're _not_ sending the
[06:08] <Psytonic> yeah, I'm ok with that
[06:08] <Random832> right, yeah
[06:08] <LeJoker> Can anyone tell me a bash command to change the install directory of a program installed via the software center in 12.04?
[06:09] <Random832> what kind of router is it
[06:09] <Random832> most should do the hostname / dns thing right out of the box
[06:09] <Psytonic> dunno, might change
[06:09] <Psytonic> yeah
[06:09] <Psytonic> just need to check i guess
[06:09] <Psytonic> I just assumed it wasnt working because I was told there was a problem
[06:09] <Random832> are they all on the same router?
[06:09] <Psytonic> yup
[06:09] <Random832> eh
[06:09] <Random832> i gtg to bed
[06:10] <Psytonic> Random832: night, thanks for the help
[06:10] <Random832> LeJoker: no such thing... what are ou trying to do?
[06:10] <LeJoker> Random832: I cp'd a folder out of my home because it was taking up far too much space, and I just want it to redirect to the new location when I boot up that program
[06:10] <Dr_O> Psytonic: I found this link: http://www.turnkeylinux.org/forum/support/20090212/register-hostname-dns
[06:10] <Random832> ...wait, you can install to your home via the software center?
[06:11] <Psytonic> Dr_O: ta
[06:11] <LeJoker> Random832: It was default
[06:11] <Random832> or you mean your user config dir like ~/.program
[06:11] <LeJoker> I didn't have an option
[06:11] <Random832> just make a symlink
[06:11] <Random832> then it can still find it by looking in your home
[06:11] <LeJoker> I'm kinda new to linux, I don't actually know what that is :P
[06:11] <Psytonic> symbolic link: google knows it
[06:11] <Random832> well how about you start over saying what specifically you are talking about, and someone else can help you - it's 2AM for me
[06:11] <LeJoker> I'd seen the term before but I don't know how to do it
[06:12] <Random832> ever used windows or mac
[06:12] <LeJoker> mhm
[06:12] <Random832> it's like a shortcut or an alias, except completely transparent (apps don't have to understand them to use one that's already there)
[06:12] <mah454> How can administration with dconf-editor ? in gconf-editor i can set some configuration and use "Set As Default" but dconf-editor have not this !
[06:12] <Random832> the command is ln -s , type "man ln"
[06:12] <LeJoker> got it, thanks :)
[06:13] <dr_willis> links are a feature of the filesystem. :) at a lower level of the  os then how windows handles its .lnk files
[06:14] <sindikat`> test
[06:14] <ignerious> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-colors/+bug/835414
[06:14] <dr_willis> somthing to rember about hard links. a hardlink is the same as the original file. its as if you just have 2 names.
[06:15] <dr_willis> !info gnome-colors
[06:16] <Sindikat> test
[06:16] <dr_willis> 2+2=
[06:16] <deper29> 5
[06:16] <dr_willis> in binary...
[06:16] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:16] <Psytonic> no such thing as 2 in binary :P
[06:17] <deper29> lol
[06:17] <dr_willis> irattional binary numbers
[06:18] <jrdnn> Psytonic: 10 types of numbers in binary
[06:19] <Psytonic> jrdnn: no theres not, theres only...oh wait i see what you did, ahahahaha :P
[06:19] <Psytonic> :|
[06:19] <amitav> hey, with the recent 12.04 version, what is the grub version provided?
[06:20] <saju_m> I have a ubuntu  user named 'saju' and homefolder '/home/saju'  Howto change username and homefolder name ???
[06:20] <OerHeks> amitav 1.99
[06:20] <saju_m> i am using ubuntu 12.04
[06:20] <ghostchick> amitav,  grub 2
[06:21] <Psytonic> saju_m: https://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=change+username+linux&oq=change+username+linux&gs_l=hp.3..0l4.440.6039.0.6242.31.22.2.0.0.2.600.5450.2-2j3j5j3.13.0...0.0.MxNFPN3Smm0&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=288684bd0a365fdd&biw=1680&bih=942
[06:21] <amitav> OerHeks, ghostchick : please clarify
[06:21] <dr_willis> saju_m:  easier to just make  new user with the  new name and then copy the files over you need.
[06:21] <dax> amitav: GRUB 2 version 1.99
[06:22] <OerHeks> !grub | amitav
[06:22] <dr_willis> make sure you put him in the sudo group so you have sudo rights.
[06:22] <amitav> OerHeks, ghostchick : If it grub 1.99, i.e. old grub I can easily restore it using grub from the command line but if it new grub then I have to learn it
[06:22] <dax> grub 1.99 is grub 2, not grub 1.
[06:22] <dr_willis> !grub2
[06:22] <dax> grub 1 is version 0.97 or something like that
[06:22] <dr_willis> Grub-fu-skills
[06:23] <dr_willis> down with version # bloat!
[06:24] <amitav> ah, okay
[06:24] <amitav> thanks guys
[06:29] <dial-a-monkey> ccb056: Bump = yes
[06:35] <dr_willis> its quiet... ;^) how will i ever make my quota.
[06:43] <dial-a-monkey> Anyone have any tips/info about how to filter the Ubuntu IRC channels for a specific conversation? there is often very useful troubleshooting information but it gets hard to pull it out later from the chat logs.- Thanks
[06:47] <mi3> dial-a-monkey: you can use grep for a thing like this but you will need to do that for each and every file
[06:48] <Oniklus> you can easily apply a grep search to multiple files 'grep -r [a-z]+ file0*
[06:49] <Oniklus> question is, what search criteria will you use to extract all the 'useful' information
[06:49] <Oniklus> it's not like all the 'useful' lines are prefixed with USEFUL or something else distinct
[06:49] <dial-a-monkey> Mi3: Ok thanks I was kinda hoping I could follow a conversation ( between a few people) , like Wireshark follows a TCP flow ;) I've been googling and installing different clients :  command line would work - thanks
[06:50] <mi3> umm ok
[06:52] <dial-a-monkey> Oniklus: Any information regarding troubleshooting that I hadn't though of
[06:52] <tren> any VGA experts around ? =)
[06:53] <kurdiplyas> Hy everyone, Is here xubuntu experts &
[06:54] <ghostchick> kurdiplyas,  what is the problem
[06:54] <dial-a-monkey> I can grep the logs via user id - I was hoping to filter the gui in real time - like watch the conversation between 2 people + remove all the IRC events 'XXX has joined the room'
[06:55] <dr_willis> most clients support hiding the  part/joins stufff
[06:55] <dr_willis> i dont see any of those messages ;)
[06:55] <dial-a-monkey> hmm not empathy?
[06:55] <dr_willis> empathy is a poor irc client.it may have a plugin for it
[06:55] <dr_willis> most of the IM clients are rather poor at irc.
[06:55] <kurdiplyas> The problem with login. after matching the pass i waiting a lo of time
[06:56] <dr_willis> and in a HUGE room like this one. the limiationsreally show.
[06:56] <dial-a-monkey> DO any clients have " Follow these people" or " follow this conversation" - Thanks
[06:56] <dr_willis> you could proverly script such a thingk. check the weechat homepage/scripts - one may allready exist for it.
[06:57] <dial-a-monkey> = Ok cool = thanks
[06:57] <dr_willis> ive rarely seen a question asked in here.. that wasent also covered in detail on  the forums. or askubuntu.com ;)
[06:57] <dr_willis> brb
[06:57] <kurdiplyas> I find one way? but it doesn't work. I've remove package gvfs-backend
[06:59] <only_u> anyone know if theres a SNES emulator for ubuntu??
[07:00] <dax> only_u: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=snes
[07:00] <dax> so zsnes (in multiverse) or bsnes (in universe) if you're on 12.04
[07:02] <ryanmc> does anyone know any good mods to speed up apache aside from mod_pagespeed
[07:04] <sanjugog> sanjugog@sanjay:~$ ifconfig -a
[07:04] <sanjugog> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1b:38:cd:94:9a
[07:04] <sanjugog>           inet addr:192.168.1.2  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[07:04] <sanjugog>           inet6 addr: fe80::21b:38ff:fecd:949a/64 Scope:Link
[07:04] <sanjugog>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[07:04] <FloodBot1> sanjugog: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:04] <sanjugog>           RX packets:6613 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[07:04] <only_u> thanks dax
[07:07] <tren> after upgrading kernel with apt-get command i no longer use programs that require opengl drivers, any suggestoins ??
[07:15] <fizyplankton> does anyone know why the system monitor resources tab will not remember that i want it to show me the PID column when i close and reopen system monitor? it remembers other columns fine, and my P.o.S. laptop remembers it fine. both are running 10.04
[07:16] <Saiki> how do I make sure java is running?
[07:17] <fizyplankton> Saiki: do you mean see if it is running at a particulat second?
[07:17] <Saiki> fizyplankton: if it is running on the system, yes
[07:18] <Saiki> fizyplankton: trying to access a java webpage gives me "description The requested resource (/iweb/role/) is not available."
[07:18] <fizyplankton> Saiki: "ps -ef | grep java". ignore the one that says "ps -ef | grep java"
[07:19] <Cottus> Saiki, there are packages icedtea-?-jre-* you can install one of these
[07:19] <Cottus> !java
[07:20] <Saiki> Cottus: these are the ones I installed:
[07:20] <Saiki> # apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[07:20] <Saiki> # apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk
[07:20] <Cottus> oh
[07:20] <dalek_> There is NO support for my nvidia legacy on board video card (in a toshiba laptop) in Ubuntu 12.04. I require nvidia drivers version 173 which are no longer available in current Ubuntu. Is support for my video card ever going to be available in future or has support ended permanently for all future Ubuntu releases?
[07:20] <fizyplankton> Saiki: did you install those as root?
[07:20] <Saiki> fizyplankton: yes
[07:20] <Saiki> fizyplankton: I'm loggedin on root
[07:21] <Cottus> !root
[07:21] <Cottus> do not enter the internet as root
[07:21] <Saiki> Cottus: root has a password, set by me
[07:21] <fizyplankton> lol is ubottu refrencing the matrix?
[07:21] <Cottus> heh
[07:21] <Saiki> Cottus: it's a VM that's linked to my PC
[07:22] <fizyplankton> i see what you did there.......
[07:22] <Cottus> i believe jre is enough
[07:22] <Saiki> ok, but I still can't access the webpage
[07:22] <fizyplankton> Saiki: at the risk of sounding like an indian dell tech support representative, have you tried rebooting?
[07:22] <Saiki> fizyplankton: 20+ times now
[07:22] <Cottus> can you send the webpage to test it ?
[07:23] <Cottus> Saiki, icedtea6-plugin ?
[07:23] <Cottus> did you install that
[07:23] <fizyplankton> Saiki: what browser are you usuig?
[07:23] <Saiki> Cottus: http://www.sendspace.com/file/5nulqd
[07:23] <Saiki> fizyplankton: chrome
[07:23] <samir> hi i'm unable to install lamp..
[07:24] <dalek_> has support for legacy nvidia cards ended in all future ubuntu releases?
[07:24] <samir> local host s not showing 'it works' page
[07:24] <fizyplankton> Saiki: im as much of a chrome fan as the next person (as long as the next person is remotely sane), but iv had issues with java+chrome. try firefox (i know........)
[07:24] <moj0rising> hi, samir. How did you try to install the LAMP stack?
[07:25] <samir> sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[07:25] <samir> by this cmd
[07:25] <Saiki> fizyplankton: I don't have ff, IE work?
[07:25] <moj0rising> I don't see that in the apt cache, samir
[07:25] <fizyplankton> Saiki: "will ie work?" HELL NO. ie never works. plus, you cant get it on ubuntu. but first and foremost, IE NEVER WORKS
[07:26] <Cottus> yep
[07:26] <Stark_> What command would I use to make a volume at /dev/sdb bootable?
[07:26] <samir> means wha ??
[07:26] <devslash> has anyone set up ubuntu to use ssh over public/private keys instead of a password ?
[07:26] <samir> what ?
[07:26] <moj0rising> if you do something like ls /etc/init.d/ | grep apache , what do you see?
[07:26] <fizyplankton> Saiki: firefox comes preinstalled. did you uninstall it?
[07:26] <Cottus> devslash, on debian i have
[07:27] <Saiki> fizyplankton: webserver is ubuntu, MY pc s windows 7
[07:27] <samir> nothing .
[07:27] <Cottus> devkhadka, no, actually i haven't , on gentoo i have
[07:27] <devslash> the one i need to use on the client ithat i connect from is the public key right ?
[07:27] <Cottus> devslash, , no, actually i haven't , on gentoo i have
[07:27] <moj0rising> okay. I bet you don't have the lamp stack installed.
[07:27] <moj0rising> 1 sec..
[07:27] <fizyplankton> Saiki: im cinfused. is ubuntu having problems, or is windows having (more) problems?
[07:28] <Cottus> cat id_ecdsa.pup > authorized_keys
[07:28] <samir> ok
[07:28] <Saiki> fizyplankton: my server (ubuntu) has a webpage (iweb) that I can't access. I'm trying to figure out why that page is not working
[07:28] <Cottus> no
[07:28] <Cottus> @ devslash
[07:29] <fizyplankton> Saiki: does it load on any machine?
[07:29] <devslash> and do i need to store that in a certain location ?
[07:29] <Cottus> devslash, you keep the private key in .ssh then run that command on the serverside user .ssh
[07:29] <moj0rising> samir: try sudo dpkg -l | grep apache
[07:29] <samir> ok wait.
[07:29] <devslash> im confused
[07:29] <Saiki> fizyplankton: not that I'm aware of, only this and the ubuntu machine linked together
[07:30] <moj0rising> I see that there is supposed to be a meta-package called lamp-server in 12.04 so that's good.
[07:30] <fizyplankton> on the webserver, open a browser and go to 127.0.0.1
[07:30] <Cottus> devslash, public is for the public
[07:30] <fizyplankton> Saiki: actually, what port is it on?
[07:30] <devslash> Cottus:  if i use a pretty complex password, is it even necessary to do all this ?
[07:30] <Saiki> fizyplankton: should be 8080, I'm not sure
[07:30] <Cottus> devslash, i don't know
[07:30] <fizyplankton> Saiki: then on the websever, open a browser and go to 127.0.0.1:8080
[07:30] <Saiki> fizyplankton: the dev that released it is fond of port 8443, but that doesn't work either
[07:31] <Saiki> fizyplankton: 8080/ says "It works"
[07:31] <Cottus> devslash, there are bruteforce attacks that do not work with private/ public key
[07:31] <fizyplankton> Saiki: also, are you using apache?
[07:31] <samir> mojo there is nothing with name lamp-server
[07:31] <Saiki> fizyplankton: the default page, as well as /pwAdmin/ work. and yes
[07:31] <moj0rising> samir: It looks like you don't have the packages installed...
[07:31] <devslash> what do you mean don't work ?
[07:31] <Cottus> devslash, i mean you are subject to them
[07:31] <samir> it has http apche server
[07:31] <devslash> yes
[07:31] <samir> and 3-4 mmore
[07:31] <fizyplankton> Saiki: whats the webserbvers ip?
[07:32] <devslash> if i use a 35 character password of letters,numbers and symbols
[07:32] <Saiki> 192.168.111.133
[07:32] <moj0rising> try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install lamp-server
[07:32] <firekraag> Saiki: This is your LAN IP
[07:32] <samir> ok..
[07:32] <fizyplankton> Saiki: on the win machine, go to 192.168.111.133:8080
[07:32] <fizyplankton> firekraag: trust me. i have apache working
[07:32] <Cottus> devslash, i don't know, you'll add the ssh command in a script, correct ?
[07:33] <devslash> no what script ?
[07:33] <Saiki> fizyplankton: If you're seeing this page via a web browser, it means you've setup Tomcat successfully. Congratulations!
[07:33] <moj0rising> ah! also, the package name is actually lamp-server^
[07:33] <moj0rising> with the '^'
[07:33] <fizyplankton> Saiki: not sure what tomcat is, but is the page working the way you want?
[07:33] <Saiki> fizyplankton: for me 192.168.111.133:8080/pwAdmin/  works as well
[07:33] <Stark_> Is there no command to make a volume bootable?
[07:33] <Cottus> devslash, you'll then enter the password by hand ???
[07:33] <moj0rising> so if you don't have that in your command, samir, it won't install.
[07:33] <samir> ohh..its installing nw.
[07:33] <devslash> no
[07:33] <Cottus> devslash, ah ,ok
[07:33] <samir> without using ^
[07:33] <moj0rising> good deal.
[07:34] <devslash> i have it stored in a secure lastpass database
[07:34] <Saiki> fizyplankton: tomcat6, and the iweb is not, no
[07:34] <goddard> whats the difference between RX and TX in networking
[07:34] <devslash> and i can retrieve it as needed and paste it
[07:34] <chicao__> Becker says many of the bacteria in the mouth of a dog are species specific, so it won't harm its owner.
[07:34] <Cottus> oh,ok
[07:34] <chicao__> wrong #
[07:34] <fizyplankton> Saiki: but i thot you said that tomcat works with 192.168.111.113:8080
[07:34] <moj0rising> ha. all right.
[07:34] <Cottus> Saiki, did java work?
[07:34] <Lartza> If I've done rsync -a how would I restore from that? With the same -a switch?
[07:34] <Saiki> fizyplankton: it does
[07:35] <Saiki> Cottus: I'll pm you the reply from grep
[07:35] <fizyplankton> Saiki: so using the 192....... everything works perfectly?
[07:35] <Saiki> fizyplankton: not /iweb/  everything else though
[07:35] <samir> mojo it said unable to locate lamp-server..
[07:35] <moj0rising> so, samir. keep an eye on the console as the packages install. it will probably prompt you occasionally for things like the MySQL password and such.
[07:35] <samir> is it due to missing of ^
[07:35] <fizyplankton> Saiki: and is the iweb the java doodad?
[07:35] <Saiki> fizyplankton: yes
[07:35] <moj0rising> okay. one sec. I'm verifying the package name for you. ..
[07:36] <fizyplankton> Saiki: does iweb work on the server at 127.0.0.1:8080/path/to/iweb
[07:36] <samir> its done now...says 0 package installed,0 remove...everything 0
[07:36] <moj0rising> okay.
[07:36] <Saiki> fizyplankton: don't know how to check
[07:36] <moj0rising> the '^' is essential
[07:37] <samir> ok id used it 2nd time
[07:37] <moj0rising> so you need to type "sudo apt-get install lamp-server^"
[07:37] <moj0rising> without the quotes
[07:37] <fizyplankton> Saiki: on the web server, open up a browser and go to 127.0.0.1:8080/path/to/iweb
[07:37] <samir> done ..
[07:37] <samir> what next
[07:37] <moj0rising> samir: it should now ask you if you want to continue y/n
[07:37] <Saiki> fizyplankton: it's server ed. I can't just "open a browser"
[07:38] <fizyplankton> Saiki: so theres no GUI?
[07:38] <samir> it didn't .
[07:38] <Saiki> fizyplankton: correct
[07:38] <moj0rising> press enter after pasting that line into the console.
[07:38] <samir> bt it did ask me when i installed it first time.
[07:38] <firekraag> Saiki: wget '127.0.0.1/path/to/iweb
[07:38] <Cottus> Lartza, i aliased once : rsync --acls --devices --executability --group --hard-links --human-readable --itemize-changes --owner --perms --progress --recursive --specials --times --xattrs
[07:38] <moj0rising> hmm.
[07:38] <fizyplankton> Saiki: do you know how to forward ports, and are you comfortable letting me ssh into the server?
[07:39] <moj0rising> samir: type "ls /etc/my.cnf"
[07:39] <moj0rising> no quotes
[07:39] <moj0rising> anything?
[07:39] <Saiki> fizyplankton: you can't ssh it. there is not internet connection on it
[07:39] <samir> no such file or directory
[07:39] <fizyplankton> Saiki: then what the hell are you setting up a web server on it for?!?!?
[07:40] <Saiki> fizyplankton: iweb is a control pannel for a game, a game I am playing locally
[07:40] <samir> it sayas.  no such file or directory
[07:40] <Saiki> Cottus: I sent a pm with grep reply
[07:40] <fizyplankton> Saiki: do you have team viewer installed?
[07:40] <moj0rising> still looks like you don't have this stuff installed.
[07:40] <moj0rising> so, let's reqind a minute...
[07:41] <Saiki> fizyplankton: not giving you access to my windows pc
[07:41] <moj0rising> rewind
[07:41] <Cottus> Saiki, i meant' if now it opens the java enabled website,
[07:41] <samir> ok.
[07:41] <fizyplankton> Saiki: my plan is to use teamviewer to PuTTY into the server. thats itr
[07:41] <fizyplankton> it*
[07:41] <moj0rising> samir: what, exactly, was the output when you pasted that apt-get line I last sent you?
[07:42] <moj0rising> well. just tell me the last line
[07:42] <Saiki> fizyplankton: I have an ssh open on winscp, if there's commands I need to enter, just tell me
[07:42] <moj0rising> so you don't scroll the channel.
[07:42] <samir> o  updated
[07:42] <samir> o installed ..
[07:42] <samir> etc.
[07:42] <fizyplankton> ssh via irc like this is a nightmare. how hard would it be to give the server internet
[07:42] <Saiki> Cottus: I am 99% sure pwAdmin is
[07:42] <moj0rising> okay. any reason given?
[07:43] <samir> no
[07:43] <Saiki> Cottus: yes. pwadmin loads, and it's java-based
[07:43] <Stark_> Seriously, is there no command to make a UDF volume bootable?
[07:43] <moj0rising> that's very unusual...
[07:43] <Stark_> Is there any command I can use to have dd give me a bootable volume?
[07:43] <Cottus> ok:)
[07:43] <samir> i thing everything is installed ..
[07:44] <samir> bt still localhots is not showing the page..
[07:44] <Saiki> fizyplankton: pretty hard, given my netowrk is crazy. I'm routing a router through a router
[07:44] <samir> it works.
[07:44] <fizyplankton> Stark_: does it have to be thru cli? or can you do it graphicall?
[07:44] <samir> localhost
[07:44] <Stark_> fizyplankton: I checked the "properties" on the drive, it won't let me change anything, nor is there an option to make it bootable.
[07:44] <samir> it says unable to find thepage
[07:44] <moj0rising> okay. so if you type service apache2 start, what happens?
[07:44] <fizyplankton> Stark_: what program did you do that with?
[07:44] <Stark_> fizyplankton: Nor does disk utility have any option to make it bootable.
[07:45] <geirha> Stark_: You can make iso9660 bootable. I've never heard of bootable UDF...
[07:45] <Stark_> fizyplankton: dd, I used it to copy a Windows 7 ISO onto my flash drive
[07:45] <fizyplankton> Saiki: *sigh* have to make things difficult
[07:45] <Saiki> fizyplankton: not me, my family lol
[07:45] <samir> action failed
[07:45] <samir> no such file or directory
[07:45] <fizyplankton> Stark_: from ubuntu, launch up gparted
[07:45] <samir> The Apache error log may have more information.
[07:45] <moj0rising> samir: also, can you paste the output of the apt-get line to paste.ubuntu.com for me
[07:46] <moj0rising> ah.
[07:46] <moj0rising> okay.
[07:46] <devslash> anyone here familiar with ssh
[07:46] <samir> ok wait.
[07:46] <Stark_> fizyplankton: Installing
[07:46] <devslash> and public/private keys
[07:46] <moj0rising> in that, case, samir, type tail -n 20 /var/log/apache2/error_log and paste that to paste.ubuntu.com
[07:47] <Saiki> fizyplankton: do you want the link totry it yourself on your pc?
[07:47] <fizyplankton> Saiki: sure
[07:47] <Cottus> !ssh
[07:47] <moj0rising> I am guessing on the exact log file path. I normally run apache in red hat, which is slightly different.
[07:47] <Saiki> fizyplankton: http://www.sendspace.com/file/5nulqd
[07:47] <Stark_> fizyplankton: Alright, gparted is open
[07:47] <samir> you are asking about the output from apt-get install lam-server^
[07:47] <samir> ??
[07:47] <Cottus> !ssh-server
[07:47] <fizyplankton> Stark_: at the dropdows box at the top right, click /dev/sdb
[07:47] <devslash> hey cottus
[07:47] <devslash> i thought you left
[07:48] <moj0rising> yeah. but, if you are getting apache errors, then just show me the log file instead.
[07:48] <Cottus> nah
[07:48] <Stark_> fizyplankton: Done. Unallocated, unallocated, 3.84GB.
[07:48] <fizyplankton> Stark_: gimee a sec
[07:48] <devslash> ok i copied the public key to the client I'm connecting from and did cat mypublicfile.pub >> authorized_keys
[07:48] <Cottus> wrong
[07:48] <Hyperbyte> I have an LTSP (terminal) server with Ubuntu 12.04.  For some reason, Thunderbird, Firefox and ksoftirqd are using insane amounts of CPU.  Does anyone have any ideas why this is happening?
[07:48] <fizyplankton> Saiki: whats this exe?
[07:48] <Cottus> to the client you're connecting to
[07:48] <devslash> why
[07:49] <devslash> huh
[07:49] <Cottus> reverse
[07:49] <Saiki> fizyplankton: its not an exe..
[07:49] <devslash> explain
[07:49] <devslash> im confused
[07:49] <Cottus> ok
[07:49] <samir> oka wait pls.
[07:49] <Stark_> fizyplankton: Notable that I did not format the drive before using dd. It was totally empty, not even a filesystem. Could this be why dd seems to have made it a UDF?
[07:49] <devslash> I'm on the client i want to connect from with the pub file
[07:49] <zjhui> i want to install xen on ubuntu 11.10 , after i install the xen-hypervisor-amd64, shuold i make menuconfig the kernel ?
[07:49] <fizyplankton> Stark_: right click on the partition, click manage flags, and then hit "boot"
[07:50] <Stark_> fizyplankton: Can't click "manage flags"
[07:50] <Stark_> fizyplankton: Only "new" and "information"
[07:50] <Saiki> fizyplankton:  "Click here to start download from sendspace"  <click that
[07:50] <fizyplankton> Stark_: so you mean there is no partitoin scheme?
[07:50] <Cottus> you have a private key, that's yours, you give public to others, encrypt the communication through the private, decrypt through the public, something like that
[07:50] <Stark_> fizyplankton: Right.
[07:50] <devslash> ho do i actually do that
[07:50] <devslash> how
[07:50] <fizyplankton> Saiki: is wants me do download "DownloadSetup.exe"
[07:50] <samir> mojorosing ,it says cannot open `/var/log/apache2/error_log' for reading: No such file or directory
[07:50] <Cottus> on the client :ssh-keygen -t ecdsa
[07:50] <Stark_> fizyplankton: I... thought since dd would be formatting it anyway, having no partition scheme wouldn't matter?
[07:51] <moj0rising> samir: okay, type ls /var/log
[07:51] <Cottus> copy id_ecdsa.pub to the server
[07:51] <devslash> what is ecdsa
[07:51] <Stark_> fizyplankton: Or did I misinterpret the fact that it would erase everything, and it really just meant it would delete all files, not actually format the drive?
[07:51] <Saiki> fizyplankton: http://fs07n1.sendspace.com/dl/ce9de5ed09d0e3bf5689c7f064737c07/4ff2a41b1dcc8741/5nulqd/iweb145.7z
[07:51] <Cottus> !ecdsa
[07:51] <Saiki> try that link?
[07:51] <moj0rising> paste the results to paste.ubuntu.com
[07:51] <Cottus> the evolution of dsa
[07:51] <fizyplankton> Stark_: you should format the drive with an MBR partition scheme. "Disk utility" can do that easily. back up your data if necessary, and make sure to close gparted before you partition it
[07:52] <Cottus> devslash, they are passwordless keys
[07:52] <Cottus> no
[07:52] <Cottus> wrong
[07:52] <fizyplankton> Saiki: 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable
[07:52] <devslash> unknown  jey type ecdsa
[07:52] <devslash> key
[07:52] <Cottus> try dsa
[07:52] <Stark_> fizyplankton: You mean the volume? The drive can't format to an MBR scheme.
[07:52] <Saiki> fizyplankton: ok I know that page works.. probably just a my-pc link
[07:52] <devslash> now do o copy the file it generates to my server ?
[07:52] <Cottus> the public one
[07:52] <Stark_> fizyplankton: Wait, yes it can, that was officially the most retarded thing I can remember ever saying in my life.
[07:53] <Stark_> fizyplankton: Disregard completely.
[07:53] <samir> mojo ,done
[07:53] <devslash> does it matter if i use a passphrase
[07:53] <devslash> ?
[07:53] <fizyplankton> Stark_: lol. most retarded thing so far...
[07:53] <devslash> i skipped it
[07:53] <Saiki> fizyplankton: http://www.sendspace.com/file/5nulqd  rght in the middle it says "click here to start download from sendspace"
[07:53] <dr_willis> !info gparted
[07:53] <Cottus> devslash, i don't know
[07:53]  * Stark_ apparently doesn't know how to acronyms
[07:53] <devslash> ok so i copy the public to the server
[07:54] <devslash> right ?
[07:54] <Cottus> yes
[07:54] <Stark_> fizyplankton: Should I now create a partition, or just leave the MBR-formatted drive as it is and re-enter my previous dd command?
[07:54] <devslash> what about the one i generated on the server ?
[07:54] <fizyplankton> Saiki: damn. dont have 7z support installed
[07:54] <devslash> do i use that one for anything
[07:54] <Cottus> it's for the server to connect to you
[07:54] <Saiki> fizyplankton: lol well, at least we're getting somewhere
[07:55] <moj0rising> samir: did you send me the url of your paste?
[07:55] <fizyplankton> Stark_: i dont have that much experiance with dd, other than following IRC given commands like theres no tomorow and hoping to high heaven that my disk doesnt got wiped
[07:55] <moj0rising> can you paste that url here for me?
[07:55] <Stark_> Alright, I'mma just give dd another try
[07:55] <devslash> ok so i copy the public key i generated on the client to ~/.ssh ?
[07:55] <Saiki> fizyplankton: do you need it in another format?
[07:55] <samir> mojo shall i send it here ??
[07:56] <geirha> Stark_: The partition table is stored in the MBR, so you need a partitioning tool that'll update the MBR
[07:56] <Cottus> devslash, to the 'user' you want to connect to
[07:56] <devslash> where ?
[07:56] <fizyplankton> Saiki: im installing 7zip support now
[07:56] <devslash> where is that
[07:56] <samir> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072705/
[07:56] <Cottus> .ssh that is correct
[07:56] <Stark_> geirha: dd is already running :|
[07:56] <Saiki> fizyplankton: ok
[07:56] <Cottus> devslash, i mean you can add it to all users' .ssh directories
[07:56] <geirha> Stark_: And what does that do?
[07:56] <Stark_> geirha: If this doesn't work, though, then I'll just reformat and then add a partition with diskutil. Just wondering what partition scheme I should use.
[07:57] <devslash> ok it still doesn't work
[07:57] <devslash> i can't connect to it
[07:57] <Stark_> geirha: dd copies the raw data of the ISO onto the flash drive so that it can boot.
[07:57] <samir> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072709/
[07:57] <devslash> on the server i used rsa
[07:57] <fizyplankton> i swear. every time i get on irc, im like "im gonna just get this one problem fixed, and thats it". i end up helping 9 people at once and never getting my problem fixed. EVERY time
[07:57] <devslash> does that matter
[07:57] <devslash> ?
[07:57] <samir> mojorising
[07:57] <samir> this is the log output
[07:57] <samir> url
[07:58] <samir> did u get it ?
[07:58] <moj0rising> samir: okay. good. apache is definitely installed then
[07:58] <Saiki> fizyplankton: lol I feel your pain. what's the issue you're having?
[07:58] <Stark_> fizyplankton: You're probably just a really awesome person, don't feel too bad
[07:58] <geirha> Stark_: Oh you've switched to iso9660? well, if the iso image is bootable, that should make the usb drive bootable
[07:58] <fizyplankton> gnome system monitor wont remember to show me the PID columns
[07:58] <devslash> Cottus: i used rsa on the server. does that matter ?
[07:58] <moj0rising> so I was slightly off on the log file name
[07:58] <samir> so what can ishall i do now ?/
[07:58] <moj0rising> it's actually /var/log/apache2/error.log
[07:59] <fizyplankton> Saiki: uh, what do i do with the files
[07:59] <moj0rising> samir: so type tail -n 30 /var/log/apache2/error.log
[07:59] <Saiki> fizyplankton: it's a tomcat webpage
[07:59] <samir> ok
[07:59] <moj0rising> paste that into paste.ubuntu.com and give me the url of the paste page
[07:59] <fizyplankton> Saiki: no. what do i do with them?
[07:59] <immortalrites> Can someone please tell me how to get my ipod4g ios 5.1.1 to work with ubuntu, preferrably a method you know will work for me
[07:59] <Saiki> fizyplankton: they go in the tomcat folder. or do you mean what do they do?
[08:00] <Cottus> devslash, let me check my server side sshd_config
[08:00] <Cottus> it's in /etc/ssh/
[08:00] <fizyplankton> Saiki: wheres the tomcat folder?
[08:00] <Saiki> fizyplankton: should be /var/lib/tomcat*  (mine's 6, so "tomcat6" for me
[08:01] <samir> its showing nothing
[08:01] <Saiki> and it goes in "webapps"
[08:01] <devslash> yes
[08:01] <devslash> i edited mine to not allow password prompt
[08:01] <moj0rising> samir: the log file is empty?
[08:01] <moj0rising> or does not exist?
[08:01] <ct529> hi everybody .... I am trying to install kubuntu on a GPT formatted disk, but i have been unsuccessfull so far .... the installer does not see the GPT partitioning
[08:01] <ct529> in other words, it sees the partitions, but sees the total dimension of the disk  (750G) as 95G, and the partitions seem much smaller than what they actually are if I see them using gparted
[08:01] <ct529> any clue?
[08:01] <samir> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072709/
[08:02] <immortalrites> no one here uses an ipod touch and knows how to get it to work with ubuntu?
[08:02] <samir> sorry/..
[08:02] <fizyplankton> Saiki: i dont have a /var/lib/tomcat. still not sure what tomcat is
[08:02] <samir> its not.
[08:02] <samir> samir@samir-Lenovo-G460:~$ tail -n 30 /var/log/apache2/error.log
[08:02] <samir> samir@samir-Lenovo-G460:~$
[08:02] <samir> prompt returns like this
[08:02] <moj0rising> okay. good.
[08:02] <moj0rising> but you need the whole path in there...
[08:03] <moj0rising> tail -n 30 /var/log/apache2/error.log
[08:03] <immortalrites> :( I really need a way to get my ipod to work, nobody has a way of doing it?
[08:03] <moj0rising> immortalrites: I don't. Sorry. Silly question: Have you googled?
[08:03] <samir> whole path of which file ??
[08:03] <moj0rising> the log file we
[08:04] <immortalrites> yes I'm done lots of gogling
[08:04] <elshaka> is there a way to downgrade the flash plugin that comes with google-chrome?
[08:04] <immortalrites> *googling
[08:04] <Saiki> !tomcat
[08:04] <moj0rising> 're trying to read, samir
[08:04] <Saiki> !tomcat6
[08:04] <Saiki> bah.. ubotu don't like me lol
[08:04] <moj0rising> immortalrites: ..and what are the results of your searches?
[08:04] <fizyplankton> Saiki: lol. forever alone
[08:04] <immortalrites> Alot of methods, none of them work for me.
[08:04] <immortalrites> various problems
[08:05] <dr_willis> elshaka:  i saw the asksubuntu.com site had literally dozens of tips/tricks/hacks with flash for differnt reasons. It mentioned the files used for flash by chrome. so itss most likely possible.
[08:05] <samir> i don't know what to do ..
[08:05] <Saiki> fizyplankton: search for it in synaptic. It's java-based webpages
[08:05] <samir> mojo
[08:05] <moj0rising> maybe if you can tell us some error messages or more specific issues you are having after attempting install, we can help you even though we don't have ipod touches.
[08:05] <Saiki> !apache-tomcat
[08:05] <Saiki> nope, ubutu knows nothing about it lol
[08:05] <moj0rising> samir: just paste this "tail -n 30 /var/log/apache2/error.log" into your command console.
[08:05] <moj0rising> then press enter
[08:06] <dr_willis> then stand back!
[08:06] <moj0rising> paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[08:06] <dr_willis> ;)
[08:06] <immortalrites> well banshee says it syncs my ipod but it simply does not, the songs are not actually put on my ipod, itunes in wine and play onlinux does not recognize my ipod, and rhythembox says my ipod is full when its barely half full
[08:06] <Saiki> fizyplankton: /var/lib/tomcat6  is there mine's stored
[08:06] <elshaka> dr_willis, thanks i'll check
[08:06] <samir> its same.
[08:06] <fizyplankton> immortalrites: i think gtkpod will work. not sure tho
[08:06] <samir> no output..
[08:07] <dr_willis> elshaka:  the askubuntu.com site is where i learned how to replace flash with vlc to play videos from youtube. :)
[08:07] <immortalrites> I'll try gtkpod some more, couldnt figure it out but I'll try again
[08:07] <elshaka> dr_willis, wow that's quite awesome :D
[08:08] <samir> i think i shall wholley install lamp from beginni g ?
[08:08] <drgonzo> Hello all
[08:08] <moj0rising> good luck, immortalrites. Come back and let us know how you did or bring some more detail on exactly what trouble you're having and we may be able to hook you up.
[08:08] <dr_willis> elshaka:  yep. basically i dont need flash any moar.
[08:08] <samir> shall i ?/
[08:08] <samir> mojo ??
[08:08] <moj0rising> samir: so you get a file not found error when you paste that line?
[08:08] <moj0rising> or the file is empty?
[08:09] <moj0rising> I don't think that will help, samir.
[08:09] <Guest85199> I've just installed a fresh copy of 11.04 Natty. I've plugged in a external USB drive that I can access fine through nauticalis, but when i try to access it via terminal i get permission denied. Its automounted with ownership of my account.  Any ideas?
[08:09] <moj0rising> I think there is a little problem we just don't know about because we haven't seen the log file.
[08:09] <fizyplankton> Guest85199: do ls -l /media and give me the line with your flash drive
[08:10] <moj0rising> Guest85199: have you tried reading that volume with sudo / as a priviliged user?
[08:10] <Guest85199> drw-r-xr-x 5 drgonzo drgonzo 4096 2012-07-01 21:41 home backup
[08:11] <Saiki> fizyplankton: but I have to go to bed. it's 3am and I need to be up at 8
[08:11] <Guest85199> i've tried chown -R username home backup and still cant access it
[08:11] <fizyplankton> Saiki: lol wimp. its 410 here
[08:11] <Guest85199> but i can access it fine via naticalis
[08:11] <fizyplankton> Guest85199: do ls -l /media and give me the line with your flash drive
[08:11] <Saiki> fizyplankton: I will be woken up before 8
[08:11] <Guest85199> nautilus sorry
[08:12] <Guest85199> home backup is the usb flash drive
[08:12] <Saiki> fizyplankton: and I need my sleep. I will have a stressful day
[08:12] <Guest85199> drw-r-xr-x 5 drgonzo drgonzo 4096 2012-07-01 21:41 home backup
[08:13] <fizyplankton> Guest85199: try chmod 700 "/media/home backup"
[08:13] <moj0rising> samir: I have to go as well. Sorry I can't stay to help you more. I think once you see the contents of your error.log file, it wil become more clear as to what the matter is.
[08:13] <Guest85199> okay
[08:14] <dr_willis> permissions and file ownership confuse  new users a lot it seems, ;)
[08:14] <moj0rising> . I can see that the directory for that file is present, based on your paste.
[08:14] <fizyplankton> dr_willis: aint that the truth
[08:14] <Guest85199> fizyplankton, that did it
[08:14] <fizyplankton> Guest85199: its working now?
[08:14] <Guest85199> yes
[08:14] <fizyplankton> awesome
[08:14] <Guest85199> i tried 655 but that didnt work
[08:14] <Guest85199> why did 700?
[08:14] <dr_willis> had to teach some people at work... even if its just you on the pc.. theres still different users/ownership  and permissions for files.
[08:15] <moj0rising> you can also try searching for the log file with "locate error.log" or "find / -name error.log"
[08:15] <dr_willis> a directory must be 'executable' for you to access whats inside it  Guest85199
[08:15] <moj0rising> Good night, everyone.
[08:15] <moj0rising> ... morning, for some.   :)
[08:15] <dr_willis> !permmissions
[08:16] <fizyplankton> the importand part is the first number. 6 would have given you read and write permissions, but not the "X" permission. for directories, im not sure what it does, i just know that its often needed. for files, its execute, but for folders........
[08:16] <Cottus> good morning moj0rising
[08:16] <dr_willis> its 4 am here
[08:16] <Guest85199> dr_willis: natilus accessed it fine.
[08:16] <Cottus> :D
[08:16] <nopz> Hi
[08:16] <moj0rising> dr_willis: yikes!
[08:16] <moj0rising> see you later.
[08:16] <fizyplankton> moj0rising: its 4am here too
[08:16] <nopz> When you create a new cron in cron.d do you have to manually restart cron ? /etc/init.d/cron restart?
[08:16] <moj0rising> too late / early for me.
[08:16] <Guest85199> also this was automounted when plugged in, why would it mount not executable?
[08:17] <nopz> Because i have crons that should execute everyday at midnight, but it did nothing
[08:17] <fizyplankton> moj0rising: this is my prime time
[08:17] <dr_willis> it mounted and kept the original owner.
[08:17] <moj0rising> nice.
[08:19] <fizyplankton> is my client frozen? this channel is never silent for this long
[08:19] <fizyplankton> nope. it works
[08:19] <edwinkcw> fizyplankton: just two min silent
[08:20] <devslash> does anyone here use shore wall ?
[08:22] <viju> thanks
[08:23] <viju> it seems very difficult to use
[08:23] <szal> who or what?
[08:24] <devslash> what is ? shore wall ?
[08:24] <Zyclops> Hey all, i'm about to hire 10 new employees.  They need to have both ubuntu and windows installed.  I'd like to set the OSs up once and pre-install all the stuff they need (development environments, web servers etc).  Security is also a concern.  I need full disk encryption and the ability to access the contents of the machines if any of the developers leave. Also if a developer screws a machine up I need to be able to
[08:24] <spike9128> heyoo
[08:25] <spike9128> so, who wants to give me a hand with something
[08:25] <ct529> hi everybody .... I am trying to install kubuntu on a GPT formatted disk, but i have been unsuccessfull so far .... the installer does not see the GPT partitioning
[08:25] <ct529> in other words, it sees the partitions, but sees the total dimension of the disk (750G) as 95G, and the partitions seem much smaller than what they actually are if I see them using gparted
[08:25] <ct529> any clue?
[08:26] <chu> spike9128: Just ask your question, if someone is able to, they'll help :)
[08:26] <spike9128> yeah i know, i was adding flavor
[08:26] <spike9128> annnyways
[08:27] <spike9128> ok yah know how in other os's you go into the java runtime environment  to up the MB it uses fo itself, therin making things run faster?
[08:27] <spike9128> yeah
[08:27] <spike9128> how do i do that on ubuntu
[08:28] <Zyclops> hehe did i ask to many questions
[08:29] <Mike_H> hello
[08:30] <spike9128> anyone know/
[08:30] <spike9128> ?
[08:32] <goddard> Guest58145: hi
[08:32] <goddard> Zyclops: no
[08:32] <gRAVIty_> bodhi_zazen: there?
[08:35] <dr_willis> java has -commandline options  for the memory ussage
[08:37] <Guest58145> hello everyone
[08:37] <dr_willis> howdies
[08:39] <Guest58145> <watching room
[08:40] <dr_willis> been a slow night tonight at times.
[08:40] <Cottus> Zyclops, ability to access : ssh-server
[08:40] <gRAVIty_> sporadic ethernet problems on ubuntu 12.04. Help anyone?
[08:41] <dr_willis> check dmesg output for error info. check cabeles// make sure dog dident chew on them.. :)
[08:41] <gRAVIty_> dr_willis: works well on windows 7 I have a dual boot
[08:41] <Cottus> Zyclops, you can save a selection of packages to install in !Synaptic, but you can also make a custom livcd
[08:41] <Zyclops> right ok
[08:42] <gRAVIty_> At the moment it works on ubuntu too. But I dont know how I long it will continue
[08:42] <dr_willis> keep eye on dmesg logs. some nics have sort of flakey drivers  from what ive seen in the past.
[08:43] <gRAVIty_> dr_willis: Detailed description oftheproblem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2010190
[08:43] <dr_willis> check thechipset on the forums and askubuntu.com and the bug reports to see if any known isues are out there.
[08:43] <Big_Mike_H> hello everyone
[08:43] <gRAVIty_> been trying for 8 days now :(
[08:43] <dr_willis> howdy
[08:45] <Big_Mike_H> i thought id just set this up and say hello to everyone.
[08:45] <AdvoWork> Hi there, ive got a folder full of backups, 4.5GB, im right clicking, Compress, and writing to the home directory, and its saying An error occured while adding files to the archive. Permission denied. Any idea splease?
[08:45] <gRAVIty_> dr_willis:does the problem look familiar?
[08:46] <dr_willis> gRAVIty_:  last issue i had with a nic was 6+ years ago.
[08:47] <gRAVIty_> haha. I use an x200 lenovo tablet. I doubt if it has nic problem :(
[08:48] <gagan662> ubuntu 10.04 stuck at copying file during installation. Using wubi to install it.
[08:49] <beast-ro> [10.04] anyone else got a problem with skype (2.2) not showing your face (local) when you're in a video call...?
[08:50] <gagan662> ubuntu 10.04 stuck at copying file during installation. Using wubi to install it.
[08:51] <goddard> gagan662: why use wubi? and why use 10.04?
[08:52]  * dr_willis agrees on both counts..
[08:52] <goddard> AdvoWork: your permission is denied.. probably a file you don't have permissions on
[08:53] <goddard> AdvoWork: ls -la
[08:53] <gagan662> goddard: 1:I tried from live media but problem persists. 2: i dont like unity :)
[08:53] <AdvoWork> goddard, yeah, spotted it now, thankyou
[08:54] <Zyclops> skype is shit
[08:54] <goddard> gagan662: you can run classic gnome in 12.04
[08:54] <AdvoWork> out of interest, i assume it's a bad idea to have ssh connections with a password remembered somehow, is there a safe way to do it?
[08:54] <goddard> gagan662: it is super simple
[08:54] <goddard> AdvoWork: keys
[08:54]  * dr_willis likes Unity.
[08:54] <SolarisBoy> AdvoWork: keys or keys with ssh-agents
[08:55] <goddard> unity rocks
[08:55]  * SolarisBoy agrees with the unity statements
[08:55] <dr_willis> I like my Askubuntu Lens
[08:56] <SolarisBoy> is that only in 12.04 dr_willis ?
[08:56] <dr_willis> i usedit in 11.10 also  i recall
[08:56] <SolarisBoy> o cool
[08:56] <beast-ro> Zyclops - any other options?
[08:57] <gagan662> goddard: yeah it's an alternative.But don't you know how to fix issue
[08:57] <goddard> beast-ro: what do you use skype for? just video chat?
[08:58] <Zyclops> beast-ro: yeah i've found google chat is much reliable
[08:58] <beast-ro> coz all my friends and family use it... i cant change their systems for them...  No good chatting by my self!
[08:59] <goddard> gagan662: could be a few issues honestly
[08:59] <goddard> gagan662: how is the health of the drive?
[08:59] <beast-ro> google video chat in g+ is good... i agree
[08:59] <AdvoWork> if i can connect to my server(for files) via sftp or smb, which should I chose for speed?
[09:00] <goddard> AdvoWork: try them both
[09:00] <dr_willis> over the internet or local lan?
[09:01] <ssrvm> how can i disable ability of user (non admin lubuntu) to delete icons AND modify panel? help please?
[09:01] <AdvoWork> goddard, and just visually monitor the speeds as a test, or is there a more technical way?
[09:01] <ssrvm> no help from lubuntu and lxde
[09:01] <AdvoWork> dr_willis, over lan
[09:01] <goddard> AdvoWork: you could use bmon
[09:01] <goddard> AdvoWork: actually I think there is a better way
[09:01] <gagan662> goddard: i have another issue(independent of version) when i run ubuntu from live system hangs nd i have to force shutdown the system
[09:01] <dr_willis> AdvoWork:   i imagine both will be about as fast as the HD wwill allow. sftp may be slower due to some overhead/encryption. but its most likely easier to use then samba
[09:02] <dr_willis> AdvoWork:  also it will depend on what the os is on both machines.  ;) and what sort of files you are messing wwith
[09:02] <goddard> AdvoWork: oh ya time might work
[09:03] <goddard> gagan662: what machine are you running?
[09:03] <gagan662> goddard: desktop
[09:04] <goddard> gagan662: how old is it?
[09:04] <gagan662> goddard: hp
[09:05] <gagan662> goddard: 4 yrs
[09:05] <goddard> gagan662: usually if the live media doesn't work then Ubuntu won't work on the system or the CD is bad
[09:06] <gagan662> goddard: i compared th hashes . media is ok
[09:06] <gagan662> goddard: the*
[09:08] <goddard> gagan662: without digging into it to deeply then I would just give 12.04 a go.  If your heart is set on 10.04 I would do some hardware error checking and if you confident it is ok then you can dig into the forums and internet for related hardware issues
[09:10] <Zally666> How to fix a freakin tuner
[09:10] <dr_willis> sort of hard to justify using 10.04 these days.
[09:10] <MonkeyDust> gagan662  with 12.04 you will have newer apps, better support, less issues
[09:11] <karthick87> What is the default file permission for home folder ?
[09:11] <gagan662> goddard: i will give 12.04 a try. thanks
[09:12] <Charbolti> hi
[09:12] <gcq> anybody having problems with instalation of packages in a fresh ubuntu install?
[09:12] <Charbolti> !users
[09:12] <Charbolti> iron
[09:12] <Charbolti> _GoRDoN_
[09:12] <FloodBot1> Charbolti: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:12] <dr_willis> hmm. isent that factoid wrong for 12.04+  its now the sudo group?
[09:12] <dr_willis> i think someone mentioned that last week in here.
[09:13] <fidel> !anyone > gcq
[09:13] <fidel> gcq: what kind of issues to you see
[09:13] <Myrtti> dr_willis: suggest an update then
[09:13] <gcq> gpg problems
[09:13] <gcq> but i reinstalled ubuntu and same
[09:14] <MonkeyDust> gcq  what have you done and tried before you came here
[09:14] <fidel> gcq: from the default repos or some specific ppa?
[09:14] <fidel> !details > gcq
[09:14] <mah454> Hello
[09:14] <mah454> I need sample /etc/lightdm/unity-greeter.conf
[09:15] <mah454> please send to me ...
[09:15] <Zally666> So howto working tv tuners?
[09:16] <siva4080> How to take screenshot in ubuntu (selected region).. please help
[09:16] <dr_willis> what have you done so far to get it working Zally666
[09:16] <dr_willis> !screenshot
[09:17] <Zally666> Modprobes
[09:17] <dr_willis> theres other screenshot apps in the repos also
[09:17] <gcq> Ok ubottu. I have the problem in all related to app-get, from the updates manager to console. I'm running the very last Ubuntu 12.06 LTS. When i try to do an app-get update or upgrade or install some packages it fails. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072793/
[09:17] <Antonis> Hello I am running ubuntu 12.04 64bit and I am facing a problem with sound. Youtube, spotify, mp4/avi movies with totem or vlc, audio streams using vlc, flash games in browser (chrome)
[09:17] <Zally666> But i only get to scanning
[09:18] <fidel> gcq: ubottu is a bot - we use her to automate some texts we need daily
[09:18] <fidel> gcq: its 12.04 right? ;)
[09:18] <gcq> oh :). yes
[09:18] <Antonis> The sound is fastforwarding sometimes (NOT always), sometimes I hear a schhhhhhhhhhh for some seconds then it gets back to normal, sometimes it repeats the same sound for some seconds then continues normally
[09:18] <fidel> gcq: have you tried using another mirror?
[09:18] <Antonis> any suggestins/help?
[09:18] <Cottus> may be a ghost
[09:19] <gcq> i tried spain mirrors and us mirrors
[09:19] <MonkeyDust> siva4080  try shutter
[09:19] <gcq> fidel i tried spain mirrors and us mirrors
[09:20] <Antonis> anyone?
[09:20] <fidel> !anyone > Antonis
[09:20] <deltatia> hi
[09:20] <beast-ro> google chat added.. thanks.
[09:20] <beast-ro> can you get a notifier for google video chat?
[09:20] <Antonis> fidel, well I asked my question now I am awaiting answer =) thank you
[09:21] <deltatia> whats up
[09:21] <deltatia> not sure
[09:21] <gcq> MonkeyDust, i tried to set them manually, but it fixes the gpg problem but keeps failing for other reasons
[09:21] <beast-ro> i want to see incoming video chat calls (like skype)
[09:21] <fidel> Antonis: it might help to mention what sound-system yopu are using etc
[09:21] <fidel> !details > Antonis
[09:23] <Antonis> what do you mean by sound-system? I installed ubuntu 12.04 three days ago (fresh install no upgrade) and did all the updates but I am facing this problem, which I didn't have with 11.10
[09:24] <MonkeyDust> gcq  that looks like PPA errors, are you using a PPA ?
[09:24] <gcq> fresh install MonkeyDust
[09:24] <Zally666> Dr willis next weekend?
[09:25] <dr_willis> Zally666:  hmm?
[09:25] <Zally666> The tuner fix?
[09:25] <Zally666> The tuner fix?
[09:25] <dr_willis> given the lack of details.. no idea
[09:25] <Zally666> K thkx
[09:26] <Antonis> fidel, you don't have to answer me through the bot.. if you have the time to help just ask anything you want to know and I will try to answer, if not then just don't =)
[09:26] <Zally666> What detail would u need?
[09:26] <MonkeyDust> gcq  i also see you have backports activated, that's not so good
[09:26] <gcq> MonkeyDust i delete them then.
[09:26] <dr_willis> its all about the chipset Zally666 . determine the chipset, check askubuntu.com and the forums and the mythtv forums perhaps to see how well the tuner is supported.'
[09:27] <Zally666> Its supported
[09:27] <Cottus> Antonis, /Antoni :D : ps -A |grep pulse
[09:27] <Zally666> I just messed modprobes
[09:28] <Zally666> In init d
[09:29] <Antonis> Cottus, =)  2443 ?        00:07:09 pulseaudio
[09:29] <Cottus> ok
[09:29] <gcq> MonkeyDust backports removed. Now throws a bzip error as some times does: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072806/
[09:31] <MonkeyDust> gcq  guess something went wrong with the cd or during installing, my advice is to reinstall and see if the same errors occur
[09:32] <gcq> i alredy did that, this is the second time i install ubuntu.
[09:32] <gcq> MonkeyDust i alredy did that, this is the second time i install ubuntu.
[09:33] <gcq> MonkeyDust and the same error as the other time :(
[09:33] <simonZR> hi, how can I manually add an IP to a url dns resolution in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[09:33] <Antonis> Cottus, so? :P
[09:34] <bindi> simonZR: sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[09:34] <Cottus> pulse audio is the sound system fidel asked you before
[09:34] <bindi> simonZR: or gedit instead of nano if you wish
[09:34] <Antonis> ah okay thank you
[09:34] <simonZR> bindi: yes and then?
[09:34] <bindi> simonZR: it has examples
[09:35] <simonZR> bindi: not really
[09:35] <bindi> simonZR: oh?
[09:35] <simonZR> bindi: maybe it was modified before. In any case it says DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
[09:36] <bindi> pfft, that's for wussies
[09:36] <simonZR> bindi: 'your changes will be overwritten'
[09:36] <bindi> i don't know if ubuntu 12.04 has something special in it then
[09:36] <simonZR> in any case is that file not related to the dns server ?
[09:37] <bindi> simonZR: try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/130452/how-do-i-add-a-dns-server-via-resolv-conf
[09:37] <simonZR> what I want is to add an (url,IP) entry so that it doesn't call the dns server, not change the dns server IP
[09:37] <simonZR> bindi: that's not what I want
[09:37] <bindi> it's not?
[09:37] <bindi> do you want to add something like myfunnyhost.derp so it resolves into any IP you specify?
[09:37] <gcq> What you do with a computer with ubuntu installed that can't install packages... Nothing! yay! :(
[09:37] <simonZR> bindi: I want to manually add a url dns resolution, rather than adding a new dns server
[09:38] <bindi> simonZR: yes, that's what resolv.conf was for
[09:38] <bindi> If you want to add more entries to /etc/resolv.conf, create a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail and add them there.
[09:38] <simonZR> bindi: but the question you linked to says 'add a dns server'
[09:38] <trey> simonZR, you want to add an entry to /etc/hosts
[09:38] <bindi> hmm
[09:38] <simonZR> bindi: I don't have a dns server to point to, I just want to manually add a IP
[09:38] <simonZR> trey: thank you
[09:38] <bindi> oh yes
[09:38] <bindi> i mixed hosts and resolv.conf lol
[09:39] <bindi> *sigh*
[09:39] <dr_willis> gotta love adblocks via the hosts file
[09:39] <bindi> my fault
[09:40] <bindi> dr_willis: i tried that (on windows)... locked up the browser
[09:40] <dr_willis> you did its wrong. ;)
[09:41] <bindi> dr_willis: how come? :p
[09:42] <dr_willis> i even have my hosts file on my phone blocking ads.
[09:42] <bindi> this was 6 years ago though, things could've changed since
[09:43] <alexmakin> Hello, gwibber seems to use a lot of cpu usage after a while
[09:43] <alexmakin> is there a potential fit for 12.04 or later version I can download?
[09:44] <maciejjo> hi, I have problem with printing default test-page from ubuntu
[09:44] <maciejjo> It prints text instead of images
[09:44] <maciejjo> http://www.hybryde.org/hybryde_evolution/isos/evolution/squashfs/usr/share/cups/data/testprint
[09:44] <maciejjo> this text
[09:44] <FloodBot1> maciejjo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:45] <coder2> can anybody help me with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12071572#post12071572
[09:46] <maciejjo> printer is connected to debian server, but from the cups settings I can print the test page
[09:46] <maciejjo> but not from ubuntu
[09:47] <fidel> coder2: regarding point 5 - read the errors and if they are relevant: fixing them sounds like the best idea
[09:47] <fidel> coder2: your windows throws errors every day as well - it just hides some of them
[09:47] <I-0> can any one tell me how to use DHCP  in ubuntu ?
[09:47] <fidel> coder2: regarding 4 - well - when does it hangs & why - any idea? our magic-mirror is out of order ;)
[09:48] <nagarjuna> hi guys, Due to some problem i uninstall firefox and purge it. Now i tried to install through apt-get but its giving 404 error. Can someone tell how to install it
[09:48] <[flux]> Does Ubuntu 12.04 have issues with SSH?
[09:48] <fidel> coder2: regaring 3 - general vs case-specific - try to describe app-specific issues - otherwise the chance to get help is most likely small
[09:48] <dr_willis> [flux]:  none here
[09:49] <fidel> coder2: regarding 2 - check what gfx -chip you have - then recosnider if you are using the best driver
[09:49] <coder2> fidel: i know that and i am contributing to OS in other way, its lack of User experience, so can you tell me how to disable those warnings please
[09:49] <[flux]> dr_willis: Sorry, meant 13.04
[09:49] <fidel> coder2: regarding 1 - using powertop might be a first step
[09:50] <[flux]> dr_willis: Can't seem to SSH into an old box of mine for some reason.
[09:50] <pistolas> hi!
[09:50] <zxiest> Hey there :-)
[09:51] <zxiest> Is there a way to point a process id to a new process? .. Would there be any downtime?
[09:52] <coder2> fidel: can you please answer these answers there on thread because right now i do not have my machine with me. and for future many people will get benefit too.
[09:52] <MarKsaitis> hey
[09:52] <fidel> coder2: erm no - its on you to deliver details first
[09:53] <MarKsaitis> how do I check my ubuntu 12.04 for correct file permissions and such? All the differences from when the system was freshly installed vs the system now?
[09:53] <MarKsaitis> help!
[09:53] <coder2> okay let me edit the question :)
[09:53] <zoopp> Hello! Can someone please help me with this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/158608/the-system-is-crashing-when-i-change-the-screen-brightness
[09:54] <kv102t> If i telnet my mysql server i don't get a reply.. How can i enable remote access ?  - i know it's not ubuntu but you people are amazing !
[09:54] <fidel> kv102t: why using telnet in the first placE? why not ssh into the server and connect to mysql from there?
[09:55] <fidel> kv102t: from my point of view we all should avoid using telnet if there are other options available
[09:56] <kv102t> fidel: I was just testing the port was open. It's not
[09:57] <fidel> kv102t: which port are you now refering to?
[09:57] <kv102t> fidel: 3306
[09:57] <fidel> so mysql
[09:58] <kv102t> fidel: Yes, sorry, i did say mysql....
[09:59] <dr_willis> is mysql setup to listen to external interfaces by default?
[10:00] <dr_willis> i thought it was not. but its been ages since i last mesed with mysql on ubuntu
[10:00] <kv102t> fidel: Yeh, i did read that but on our install it's not.
[10:00] <dr_willis> ssh to the box. try to telnet to   localhost:3306  perhaps?
[10:01] <zoopp> Hey, might someone be able to help me with this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/158608/the-system-is-crashing-when-i-change-the-screen-brightness
[10:01] <fidel> kv102t: what do you mean by 'its not'? kv102t try to avoid letting us guess
[10:01] <Cleitus> hi
[10:01] <fidel> it helps to speak in full sentences - otherwise it ends up in confusion ;)
[10:01] <Cleitus> is anyone there?
[10:02] <fidel> !ask > Cleitus
[10:02] <dr_willis> Cleitus:  several hundred peoople are here
[10:04] <coder2> fidel: now please give answer there http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12071572#post12071572
[10:05] <fidel> coder2: you misunderstand the idea of irc-support channels and i'll go grab some food now. Ask the channel and be as detailed as possible with your problem descriptions. Good luck
[10:05] <nokia> hi
[10:05] <dr_willis> hello
[10:06] <Arash> hello
[10:06] <Arash> what is Desktop.files.utils
[10:06] <Arash> ?
[10:06] <pistolas> i have downloaded ubuntu mini remix install.. how cant i instal gnome?! :(
[10:07] <dr_willis> wheres that name comming from Arash ?
[10:07] <Arash> update
[10:07] <Arash> Desktop-files-utilis Its something like this
[10:07] <coder2> fidel: i didnot misunderstood but thought for future , on google things one will directly resolve the problem. but anyway thank you
[10:07] <dr_willis> pistolas:  install the ubuntu-desktop or gnome-shell orother packages you want
[10:08] <Arash> dr package name is : desktop-file-utils
[10:08] <Arash> !info desktop-file-utils
[10:08] <Arash> the question is how to use It ?
[10:08] <dr_willis> seems rather well named. ;)
[10:08] <dr_willis> it includes sevarl utility binaries i imagine. see whats in it. checktheir man pages
[10:08] <MagD> have a little problem does anyone know a working tut for 12.04 ldap samba as pdc  all i tried are buggy in diffrent parts
[10:09] <aler> i have problems
[10:09] <aler> xd
[10:09] <pistolas> dr_willis: error - package 'gnome-shell' has no installation candidate
[10:09] <kv102t> ok localhost error
[10:09] <aler> I'm trying to create an AP wireless
[10:09] <kv102t> packets out of order
[10:10] <dr_willis> pistolas:  could be its called somthing else.  use the package manager tgools to search for what you wan tto install
[10:10] <aler> i've tried networkmanager way bud it creates and adhoc AP
[10:10] <aler> But android doesn't support Adhoc
[10:10] <pistolas> ok thanks ;)
[10:11] <dr_willis> aler from  what ihear.. some android devices do.
[10:11] <aler> any way to disable adhoc mode ?
[10:11] <aler> dr_willis: only CyanogenMod Rom does
[10:11] <dr_willis> you wan tto make a wwireless router out of your pc basically?
[10:11] <aler> yes
[10:12] <aler> airbase-ng allows it witout adhoc but network manager not
[10:13] <aler> I want to "mirror" my wifi signal but networkmng disconnect from it to makes a new one
[10:14] <aler> And I wanted to get both working: Router --> Computer ---> Device
[10:14] <ch_> ciao
[10:15] <R3volution> yo
[10:15] <aler> and networkmanager does Router --> computer OR Computer --> device
[10:16] <fork> hey guys someone there?
[10:16] <zoopp> Hello...can you see this message?
[10:16] <Twich_Up> Yes zoopp
[10:16] <dr_willis> yes zoopp
[10:17] <zoopp> Ah..alright..I thought they weren't delivered because I'm not identified by NickServ.
[10:17] <Twich_Up> Ok
[10:19] <zoopp> I'm sorry for being persistent but..could someone perhaps take a look at my problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12071572#post12071572
[10:19] <zoopp> erm not that one sec
[10:19] <zoopp> this one http://askubuntu.com/questions/158608/the-system-is-crashing-when-i-change-the-screen-brightness
[10:19] <alexmakin> any advice on how to stop gwibber from using so much CPU?
[10:20] <dr_willis> zoopp: summarize the issue...
[10:20] <milf0rk> hey guys... does someone know how to compile this shitty module? http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ISDN-Karten/AVM_FRITZ!Card_USB#FRITZ-Card-USB-2-x
[10:21] <dr_willis> and what youve done to fix it
[10:21] <zoopp> Basically..whenever I try to change the brightness of my laptop's screen there's a chance the the system will lock up.
[10:21] <zoopp> And I don't know how to investigate the cause of the problem
[10:22] <zoopp> It seems the me that it could be a kernel issue but I'm not sure.
[10:23] <dr_willis> test with a 12.10 live cd and its newer kernels  perhaps
[10:28] <zoopp> Alright, I'm looking for the livecd image right now.
[10:29] <aler> any idea?
[10:30] <jalal> hi ..i need help for chroot
[10:31] <jalal> i am trying to custmize ubuntu
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> jalal  have you explored remastersys?
[10:31] <jalal> i am in chroot..i am try to install packges
[10:31] <jalal> no i am not using remastersys
[10:31] <jalal> i am getting someerror in synaptic
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> jalal  you mean customize the installer?
[10:31] <kiros> is there a simple way to install lib32 shared libraries particularly libGLU.so.1 libmss and libSDL-1.2?
[10:31] <jalal> dpkg depecenyed leaving unconfigured
[10:32] <kiros> in 64bit 12.04
[10:32] <jalal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072876/
[10:32] <jalal> here my problem
[10:33] <Kaapa> hello everyone. Since today's upgrade I'm not seeing a bunch of icons on the tray
[10:33] <Kaapa> did that happen to anyone?
[10:33] <Kaapa> namely: skype and gstm
[10:33] <aler> another problem
[10:33] <aler> how can i revert efects of chmod a-x /
[10:33] <Cottus> !search ia32
[10:34] <jalal> any help
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> kiros  what Cottus says, you may need ia32-libs, it's in the repos
[10:34] <ickefes> hi guys! i am using sinc-best resampling under pulseaudio and it sounds good and eats a lot of cpu. is it possible when having sox installed to let pulseaudio use its algorithems to save cpu?
[10:35] <jalal> possible help pleaseeeeee
[10:35] <kiros> which ones?
[10:35] <innociv> How do I kill a process with monit?
[10:35] <trey> jalal, try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:35] <jalal> i did this brother
[10:35] <jalal> nothing solved
[10:36] <aler> how can i revert efects of chmod a-x / ?
[10:36] <Cottus> apt-get update?
[10:36] <jalal> llisten
[10:36] <QuQua> bot!
[10:36] <jalal> i am custmizing ubuntu mini remix using ubuntu builder
[10:36] <QuQua> !uptime
[10:36] <jalal> i install packeges form synaptic but it gives unconfigured error
[10:36] <Cottus> QuQua, ubottu
[10:36] <aler> cannot open shared object file: Permission denied
[10:36] <QuQua> thx
[10:37] <KornKage2> WindowsXP Uptime: 1wk 13hrs 33mins 5secs Best: 2wks 3days 8hrs 7mins 32secs
[10:37] <jalal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072876/
[10:37] <DJones> !uptime
[10:37] <QuQua> hehe:>
[10:37] <jalal> help me brothersssssssssssssssssssssss
[10:37] <aler> hi?
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> please guys, use /msg ubottu to test factoids
[10:38] <jalal> i am damn upset coz of this
[10:38] <aler> bash: /usr/bin/sudo: Permission denied
[10:38] <aler> FAIL
[10:38] <QuQua> hello
[10:38] <aler> i'm root
[10:38] <QuQua> metoo
[10:39] <KornKage2> WindowsXP Uptime: 1wk 13hrs 35mins 4secs Best: 2wks 3days 8hrs 7mins 32secs
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> KornKage2  did you have a support question?
[10:39] <DJones> KornKage2: Can you turn of the sript that's responding to !uptime
[10:39] <DJones> s/sript/script
[10:40] <jalal> anybody reponce to my problem?
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> jalal  type !patience
[10:41] <jalal> i have alot patience
[10:41] <neteffect> it can be frustrating
[10:42] <jalal> i am doing work from last4 hours and in end got error then it ucks my mind
[10:42] <aler> Can't open /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf: Permission denied
[10:42] <aler> any idea
[10:42] <jalal> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place Errors were encountered while processing:  bluez  gnome-bluetooth  gnome-shell  gnome-user-share E:
[10:43] <kiros> thank you Cottus, MonkeyDust, i dont know why it wasn't coming up before i did the update
[10:43] <neteffect> how do i set up the printer?  i have ubuntu and vm player
[10:43] <beast-ro> jalal
[10:43] <jalal> yes brother
[10:43] <cordoval> guys how to run a script.sh that opens a terminal on ubuntu and runs the rest of the script there?
[10:43] <MonkeyDust> kiros  ia32-libs did the trick?
[10:43] <Sungrazer> hmm - 12:27:57 up 213 days,  1:24,  2 users,  load average: 0.35, 0.15, 0.11 :P
[10:43] <Cottus> aler, chmod a+x
[10:43] <kiros> well its downloading now
[10:44] <jalal> beast-ro solution
[10:44] <jalal> ?
[10:44] <beast-ro> try using the yobboppa software source. they have good bluetooth software (bluez etc)
[10:44] <Cottus> neteffect, http://localhost:631
[10:44] <beast-ro> worked for me
[10:44] <Cottus> !cups > neteffect
[10:44] <aler> Cottus: failed
[10:44] <Cottus> aler, whoami
[10:44] <monster> hello
[10:44] <neteffect> thx!
[10:45] <Cottus> np
[10:45] <aler> Cottus: # chmod a+x /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
[10:45] <aler> Can't open /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf: Permission denied
[10:45] <beast-ro> jalal, https://launchpad.net/~yorba/+archive/ppa/
[10:45] <Cottus> aler, are root? you can check with "whoami"
[10:45] <aler> again
[10:45] <Cottus> :)
[10:45] <aler> root
[10:45] <aler> Lol
[10:46] <Cottus> heh
[10:46] <Cottus> ls -l /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf? can you open other files ?
[10:46] <aler> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 333 jul  3 12:28 /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
[10:46] <aler> and yes ican
[10:46] <jalal> i am in chroot console
[10:47] <monster> emm... when i'm trying to start up using liveusb it just says "SYSLINUX 3.84 2009-12-18 EBIOS ..." any suggestions?
[10:47] <jalal> from there now costmizing ubuntu minit remix
[10:47] <temp> hello guys, does anyone know how to schedule media files to play with vlc using the crontab tool, quite new to it and it doesn't seem to be working.
[10:48] <monster> anyone?
[10:48] <aler> Reming I'm creating a Wifi AP without adhoc
[10:48] <aler> but networkmanager doesn't alow it
[10:49] <neteffect> serial port 1 is where the printer is on the host machine.  how do i make my printer print to that from ubuntu?
[10:49] <tren> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072739/
[10:49] <temp> my ubuntu version is 11.10
[10:50] <tren> any1 know what to do there ?
[10:50] <tren> my VGA drivers do not work and i cannot open any application that uses opengl :D
[10:50] <beast-ro> jalal, sorry gave you wrong address for bluetooth package source. try : https://launchpad.net/~yobbobandana/+archive/ppa
[10:51] <jalal> listen beast,i a in chroot console
[10:51] <jalal> custmizing ubuntu mini rmeix
[10:51] <jalal> i want to change splash screen how to ?
[10:52] <temp> anyone?
[10:53] <Cottus> temp, first thing to do is send the crontab you edited
[10:54] <neteffect> what does it mean System-Administration-Printing ?
[10:55] <geirha> temp: The main problem with that is that cron does not have any knowledge of your Xserver. To run a graphical program, it must have an Xserver.
[10:55] <beast-ro> the error in your pastebin [http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072876/] shows issues with bluez conflicting...? is this not your problem.  reply if you still need help.... otherwise good luck.
[10:56] <geirha> temp: The easiest way I can think of is to write a script that runs an infinite loop and spawns a vlc at a given time. Then you run this script from startup applications
[10:57] <mithran> hai
[10:57] <mithran> hai
[10:58] <mithran> my network administrator blocked my windows from booting how can i repair ?
[10:58] <mithran> can yooou  help me?
[10:59] <temp> geirha: thanks would try that
[10:59] <temp> Cottus: thanks, would send it.
[10:59] <temp> exit
[10:59] <temp> quit
[10:59] <kiros> MonkeyDust, it worked thanks. only problem now is i cant read any words of the words when i get into never winter nights its just black
[11:00] <geirha> temp: What's the goal? run a certain video file at a given time each day?
[11:00] <beast-ro> quit
[11:00] <werxxx> ./quit
[11:01] <geirha> mithran: sounds like you need windows support, not ubuntu ...
[11:01] <zxiest> kill -s USR2 restarts the process?
[11:02] <Kaapa> damn - lost a bunch of tray icons after the upgrade today
[11:02] <Kaapa> dropbox, skype, gstm, crash manager
[11:02] <geirha> zxiest: That's upto the process. If it has defined the USR2 signal to mean "I'll restart", then yes.
[11:02] <zxiest> geirha aha.. Thanks :-)
[11:02] <mithran> geirha:  i was working with my windows and ubuntu  one day my network administrator locked my windows  now i can only work with my ubuntu ?
[11:03] <zxiest> geirha is there a way to create a new process, point the old process to it, then kill the old process?
[11:03] <geirha> zxiest: point a process to another? I don't follow
[11:04] <geirha> mithran: So ask your network administrator what you have to do to get it reopened
[11:04] <mithran>  i have the root password with me?
[11:05] <zxiest> geirha assume we have a webserver that's listening to a port. all clients will be communicating with it. I want to start a new server that accepts the new clients but I don't want to kill the old process yet. When the old process terminates, I want to rename the new process to it
[11:05] <mithran> geirha:  my network admin did not allow me to play windows games so he locked it  :(
[11:05] <gac> zxiest: doesn't sound possible to me, two processes can't bind to the same port
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> kiros  what's never winter nights?
[11:06] <geirha> zxiest: That's not really possible
[11:06] <neteffect> for my printer in ubuntu i put serial:/dev/ttyS1 and it says permission denied
[11:06] <zxiest> gac yup.. It looks like it's an internal thing in unicorn that lets it do this. Once it creates its new process, it stops listening on the old on
[11:06] <bouma> help, i let some packages update, then it came up in the wrong res and refused to "enable" the prop nvidia driver. then i ran sudo nvidia-xconfig
[11:06] <kiros> pc rpg made by bio-ware then they ported it to linux sort of
[11:06] <bouma> and now X11 wont start
[11:06] <bouma> ive tryed rescue mode and can only get to a prompt
[11:06] <zxiest> gac and geirha, thank you very much :-)
[11:06] <bouma> any suggestions on how to fix X ?
[11:07] <geirha> zxiest: Run the webserver on two servers with a load balanser in front. Then you can take down one of them while the other takes all the heat
[11:07] <bouma> im running 11.10
[11:07] <alx__> hi, guys. i've downloaded wubi from ubuntu.com, but cannot get it executed. i'm using win 8 customer preview -- any advice, please?
[11:07] <mithran> geirha:  i think it may be related with the grub can you help me :(
[11:09] <zxiest> geirha yes but it's more costly :-) Unicorn lets me do this with Ruby on Rails :-)
[11:10] <geirha> mithran: Sorry, I can't help you with grumpy network admins.
[11:11] <fidel> alx__: puh - using wubi itself isnt that troublefree in some cases - and i am not sure how well it works in win8 (preview)
[11:11] <fidel> why are you using wubi in the first place alx__ ?
[11:11] <bouma> how do i reinstall a package, ie nvidia-current-updates
[11:12] <alx__> fidel, it's the simplest way to install linux without repartitioning etc, afaik
[11:12] <bouma> i dont want to remove and then have to redownload, ... does ubuntu keep the package locally ?
[11:12] <fidel> alx__: yep - thats the advantages - but it comes with downsides too ;)
[11:12] <bouma> can i trigger a reconfigure of a package ?
[11:13] <Dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure packagename
[11:13] <tren> my VGA drivers do not work and i cannot open any application that uses opengl, here is a paste of me trying to install fglrx drivers :D
[11:13] <tren> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072739/
[11:13] <mithran> geirha:  ok thnx for your advice . i shall try it
[11:13] <alx__> fidel, i'm trying to install latest 12 on my notebook; previosly there were problems with wifi and general performance, just want to know if they still exist in 12, and don't want to clear whole machine just to check if these problems were resolved
[11:14] <Dr_willis> alx__,  totally depends on the chipsets 12.04 has improved a lot of things for notebooks
[11:14] <fidel> alx__: how about using a live-cd?
[11:14] <Dr_willis> alx__,  try the live/usb. or full install to a usb to test
[11:14] <karanga> what command can I run to re-detect sound so that hdmi sound output shows up when I connect my laptop to my TV via HDMI?
[11:16] <bouma> this is rediculous, even Xorg -configure, wont do anything
[11:16] <loool> hi again
[11:16] <alx__> fidel, Dr_willis, for some reason I canot run it from usb; maybe my particular notebook problem; re live-cd -- not sure where to get a disc, actually :) sounds so pre-historic, actually
[11:16] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[11:16] <loool> any way to create a non adhoc ap on ubuntu???
[11:17] <Nicekiwi> my system just 100% locked up, then 20secs later just rebooted. How do I findout what happend?
[11:17] <fidel> Nicekiwi: maybe checking your syslog & dmesg might give some first impression
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> karanga  "Exactly what i was looking for. Worked perfect"  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1961114
[11:18] <Nicekiwi> fidel: wheres what?
[11:18] <karanga> Thanks MonkeyDust, I'll check that link out
[11:18] <alx__> fidel, actually found the reason why it did not start: I had sftp drive mounted as a drive letter, and wubi choked on that silently
[11:18] <fidel> Nicekiwi: 'man dmesg' in terminal
[11:18] <fidel> Nicekiwi: syslog should be under /var/log/syslog
[11:23] <soraxx> I'm asking for non adhoc
[11:23] <Nicekiwi> fidel: none of those even seemed to register the reboot
[11:23] <soraxx> Let me know if there is a solution
[11:28] <gagan662> goddard: there?
[11:28] <horatio_cromwell> best technical ubuntu book ?
[11:29] <horatio_cromwell> anyone recommend
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> horatio_cromwell  define "best"?
[11:29] <Kartagis> horatio_cromwell: best depends on your understanding, really
[11:30] <fidel> !poll
[11:30] <Dr_willis> technical book = very broad topic.
[11:31] <alx__> can you recommend _any_ ubuntu book, please?
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> horatio_cromwell  http://news.softpedia.com/news/Official-Ubuntu-12-04-LTS-Manual-Is-Now-Available-278686.shtml    http://ubuntumanual.org/
[11:32] <DJones> !manual | alx__
[11:32] <zxiest> Do you guys know if there is a way to give a name to the unicorn process? I would like to use unicorn for multiple projects on the same server. When I want to kill -s USR2, I want to be able to choose which unicorn process I would like to restart.
[11:35] <zxiest> sorry wrong channel :-)
[11:35] <Dr_willis> !info unicorn
[11:35] <Dr_willis> ;P
[11:36]  * Dr_willis notices that UbuntuManual.org and Ubuntu-Manual.org are 2 very differnt sites. ;P
[11:36] <zxiest> Haha.. I was aiming for the Ruby on Rails channel :-)
[11:38] <zxiest> How do I rename a process? :-)
[11:38] <viktor> i'm having problems creating a bootable usb. is "boot" the only flag that must be activated?
[11:39] <Dr_willis> viktor,  im not even sure the boot flag is needed by linux at all.
[11:40] <Dr_willis> but it wont hurt to have it flagged bootable I guess.
[11:40] <Dr_willis> viktor,  how are yoy trying to make the bootable usb?
[11:40] <viktor> Dr_willis, i was using unetbootin, but intend to try again using usb-creator-gtk
[11:41] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:41] <saurabh> Hello, I have created a project and setup a ppa on launchpad. I am using quickly to create my application. But when I try to push the code to launchpad, it created 12.07 version instead of 0.1 version
[11:41] <saurabh> Can somebody help me to resolve this issue?
[11:42] <Dr_willis> viktor,  theres numerous tools on the pendrivelinux site also.. or you can just 'dd' the iso file to the flahs drive with 12.04+
[11:42] <fidel> saurabh: have you considered asking in #launchdpad
[11:43] <saurabh> fidel, I thought this was a better place to ask for ubuntu development. Wait, I will ask there too...
[11:43] <horatio_cromwell> Windows user and sys admin, making a move to use ubuntu as primary develpment machine, but also I want to run an Ubuntu server
[11:43] <viktor> Dr_willis, allright thnks, i'll try the site if usb_creator doesn't work, hope i don't have re-reformat my new usb too much :p
[11:43] <horatio_cromwell> so is there a couple of books tghat cover these use cases that are recommended.  I would like a paper copy if possible
[11:43] <Dr_willis> viktor,  ive formated/dd'ed usb flash drives dozens+ of times.. have yet to wear one out.
[11:44] <Dr_willis> horatio_cromwell,  check out whats at amazon perhaps?
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> horatio_cromwell  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[11:44] <viktor> Dr_willis, good, that's reassuring
[11:45] <Dr_willis> viktor,  ive had more 'hard drives' die then USB flash drives..
[11:47] <zykotick9> Dr_willis: i know dd will work for the hybrid images - but cat really is recommended (by the person who appears to have added the feature to d-i) http://joeyh.name/blog/entry/Debian_USB_install_from_hybrid_iso/
[11:49] <Dr_willis> im not even sure of the proper syntax to use cat to do it. :)
[11:49] <zykotick9> cat mini.iso > /dev/sdX
[11:50] <Dr_willis> but if you decide to use 'sudo'  then you have to use tee dont you..
[11:50] <zykotick9> probably "sudo -i" might be easier
[11:51] <Dr_willis> i think i saw this debated in the forums once.  befor dd had a larger bs as a default. cat was faster.. now a days. Im not sure if theres any speed diff.
[11:54] <geirha> dd or cat plus redirection, makes no difference. Maybe one is slightly faster than the other, who cares?
[11:55] <Dr_willis> dd is cooler. :) since its so old skool it has funky syntax
[11:55] <zykotick9> according to this mint page, you can use dd/cat/cp?  i've certainly never tried to cp method.  http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=47434
[11:56] <viktor> Dr_willis, any specific tool you would recommend to install make live usb using ubuntu but for other linux (BT5)?
[11:56] <geirha> zykotick9: I'm pretty sure the cp will replace the block device with a regular file
[11:56] <zykotick9> geirha: i certainly surprised me
[11:56] <zykotick9> s/i/it/
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> viktor  mind: there's also the channel #backtrack-linux
[11:57] <Dr_willis> viktor,  i tend to use dd, or some of the tools from the pendrivelinux site. or set up grub2 on a flash to boot the iso files.
[11:58] <geirha> zykotick9: Just tested it. Didn't make a dent. GNU cp probably has some safe guard in place there.
[11:58] <Dr_willis> you can even set up grub2 to boot an iso file from a hard drive partition for really really speedy installs.
[11:59] <worm> A serious problem happened to my friend's ubuntu... He was updating the distribution from 11.10 to 12.04, but because of some reason, his update failed. Any solution?
[11:59] <worm> Not failed. Just interrupted...
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> worm  depends on how it failed, any errors?
[12:00] <worm> No error, just went out of battery/
[12:01] <worm> Can the upgrade be continued? But he can't login now.
[12:01] <Dr_willis> eww. thats not a nice way to stop it.
[12:01] <worm> That was an accident.
[12:01] <worm> The AC cable was disconnected...
[12:01] <Dr_willis> safest thing to do - would be backup imporntant stuff. and reinstall.
[12:03] <worm> And that means every programs will be re-installed. That will be a disaster if the internet connection is not available.
[12:03] <Dr_willis> how was he upgradeing without the internet?
[12:03] <Dr_willis> Or are we misunderstanding somthing.
[12:04] <worm> He had fetched all of the packages, and then when he had seen the terminal appears, he disconnected the internet.
[12:04] <worm> And then he took his laptop to his dorm...
[12:06] <Dr_willis> carrying the laptop while the hard drive was updateing.. with the lid open.. up flights of steps.. ;)
[12:07] <worm> Not a good habit, but that happened when we need to go to our dorm. The installation even had finished installing the kernel.
[12:07] <Dr_willis> well at the least. he should prob. boot a live cd and fsck the filesystems to make sure they are all valid. then id suggest backing up stuff..  then trying to chroot in and attempt to restart the upgrade process. or try t get the system repaird and bootable.
[12:08] <Dr_willis> If hes Lucky it may just need a fsck.
[12:08] <Dr_willis> what does the laptop do now? boots to grub? then errors out?
[12:08] <worm> His hard drive is well, but some packages had not been installed.
[12:09] <worm> Now he can just load to the lightdm
[12:09] <worm> And can't login.
[12:09] <Dr_willis> try the console see if he can login there.
[12:09] <worm> He can use the console.
[12:10] <Dr_willis> well thats a good sign i guess. ;)
[12:10] <worm> But I had tried to apt-get install lightdm ubuntu-desktop
[12:10] <worm> And nothing happened.
[12:10] <Dr_willis> 'cant login' would seem to imply that unity and/or some of the desktop files may not be installed all the way. If lightdm is running.. its allready installed.
[12:11] <Dr_willis> id kill the lightdm service (sudo service lightdm stop) then try a simple 'startx' and look for error messages if  the desktop fails.
[12:12] <worm> I am not sure if the incomplete upgrade can be continued... If I can continue doing the incompleted upgrade, the problems might be solved.
[12:12] <worm> Also there is an interesting fact: 2000+ packages are broken...
[12:13] <worm> And the solution is to remove a really huge amount of packages.
[12:13] <Dr_willis> well.. it may be faster to reinstall now...
[12:13] <Darael> I've got a system here, wanted to run KVM, but kvm-ok says the virtualisation extensions are available but disabled in BIOS.  Problem is, the BIOS configurator doesn't have any such option.  Can't find an updated BIOS, either.  Any ideas?
[12:13] <Dr_willis> and you could spend several hrs tryign to fix that system that may still be broken. or spend an hr and reinstall and know you will have a good system,
[12:14] <worm> I thought so, but is there any way for me to re-pack those installed softwares back to deb packages?
[12:14] <Dr_willis> the deb files are archived in /var/cache/apt/  i think
[12:14] <Necrosporus> There is advertising banner in software center. Is it a virus?
[12:14] <Dr_willis> if you install from cd, you wont need them.   well theres some updates I guess you may need.
[12:15] <worm> but for saving the disk space, I had ran "apt-get clean"
[12:15] <Darael> worm: Missing some context, but if you've changed anything and you want that in the new package there's dpkg-repack, otherwise see the cache in /var/cache/apt/archives.
[12:15] <aguitel> what package name to change windows themes ?
[12:15] <Dr_willis> necreo,  thres comercial games in the software center.
[12:15] <Brown_Mouse> Hi guys
[12:15] <AdvoWork> im trying to install themes in ubuntu 12.04. Im using the gnome-tweak-tool but i can't select a theme, it has an exclamation mark next to it. Ive added a repository, updateed, installed gnome-shell-extension-common which seemed to work, and then tried to install gnome-shell-extension-user-theme which failed(unmet dependencies, depends gnome-shell-extensions-common but is not going to be installed). Any ideas please?
[12:15] <Dr_willis> aguitel,  theres numerous themes in the repos you can install.  some ppa sites also have nice collections.
[12:16] <Brown_Mouse> Can someone help with a bootloader question please?
[12:16] <worm> Brown_Mouse: Please specify the problem.
[12:16] <Dr_willis> AdvoWork,  i always seem to recall using some commands from the webupd8 blog site on setting that up.  Not sure why they dont put it in by default.
[12:16] <aguitel> Dr_willis, i am talking about the program to change or install new themes
[12:17] <Dr_willis> aguitel,  what program? not seen any for gnome-shell/unity.    You may be able to drag the theme files to the theme setting tool like in gnome2 and it might copy them to the .theme dir
[12:17] <Brown_Mouse> Im trying to install 12.04 from cd and it asks where I want to put the bootloader.Trouble is ,I already have many OS's and use an older grub to boot them.
[12:18] <Dr_willis> I Just use MyUnity to select the theme settings.  Havent messed with the thems lately - found a nice one and stuck with it.
[12:18] <Brown_Mouse> I dont want to mess my current botloader up
[12:18] <aguitel> Dr_willis, i am under cinnamon ,no gnome shell
[12:18] <Dr_willis> Brown_Mouse,  you could install it onto a flash drive.. pop in the flash to boot the ubuntu system. :)
[12:19] <Dr_willis> aguitel,  No idea on cinnamon its not an official ubuntu thang. so not really sypported here.
[12:19] <cvr> Brown_Mouse: install to the superblock on the partition you installed ubuntu to and modify your other grub
[12:19] <andygraybeal_> eh, my gurus, how do i spit something out the serial port to a printer with the command line?
[12:19] <Dr_willis> Chain loading. is the term for that isent it. - never needed to use that.
[12:20] <Dr_willis> andygraybeal_,  old skool way 'echo "hello mom!" > /dev/ttyS0         (or whatever dev it is)
[12:20] <zykotick9> andygraybeal_: is it really a "serial" port printer?  or "parallel" printer?
[12:20] <andygraybeal_> Dr_willis, awesome
[12:20] <as001> hello I upgraded 11.10 to 12.04. and it wanted to restart nautilus. I said restart nautilus and now my desktop has been wipped out. I can not make file/folder with right click.
[12:20] <Dr_willis> Last i saw a serial port printer was.. like 20+ yrs ago.
[12:20] <andygraybeal_> zykotick9, serial printer baby :)
[12:21] <Brown_Mouse> cvr:Ok,so if I install grub to same partition as 12.04,it wont change my existing boot method?
[12:21] <Dr_willis> I used to IRC on a 'green bar' printing serial terminal.
[12:21] <andygraybeal_> wow nice.
[12:22] <Dr_willis> and noisey
[12:22] <andygraybeal_> Dr_willis, that is intense.  i got a ticket printer for kitchens,.
[12:22] <andygraybeal_> from epson
[12:22] <Pumpkin-> I saw a serial port printer ... today of all things.
[12:23] <Dr_willis> 'Order up! 2 eggs over easy and a side of BACON!'
[12:23] <andygraybeal_> i do not know what i'm doing :)  and that command isn't working ... but it could be that epson doesn't want to read the raw output.
[12:23] <Dr_willis> could also be the prijnter wants specific baud settings.
[12:23] <andygraybeal_> Dr_willis, 'all the bacon and eggs you have' :)
[12:23] <Pumpkin-> it is a specialised label printer, and it is quite old, but it is a serial printer
[12:23] <andygraybeal_> baud, omg.. i forgot about stop bits and parity.
[12:23] <Brown_Mouse> cvr:Do you mean modify my other grub menu.lst?
[12:23] <andygraybeal_> holy shit. .. memoriess.. memories.
[12:23] <zxiest> Is there a way to determine whether a number is an actual PID?
[12:23] <Dr_willis> you could fire up minicom and try differnt rates untill somthing works.. also it may need a form feed, or cr to fill the buffer and print
[12:24] <andygraybeal_> minicom ftw.
[12:24] <andygraybeal_> ah cr.. shit
[12:24] <Dr_willis> 9600 Baud 8N1 XON
[12:24] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:24] <Pici> andygraybeal_: Please mind your language here.
[12:24] <andygraybeal_> oh sorry man
[12:24] <andygraybeal_> it's the coffe.
[12:24] <zxiest> Lol
[12:24] <Dr_willis> Now im hungry.. time to go cook some Bacon  -
[12:24] <andygraybeal_> the staff is specifically told not to give me coffee.
[12:26] <andygraybeal_> how do i echo a carriage return?
[12:27] <as001> why can't I make file on desktop on Ubuntu 12.04 after upgrade and restart of Nautilus
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> andygraybeal_  with \n
[12:28] <andygraybeal_> rock man, thanks.
[12:30] <weaver535> Hello- Can anybody tell me what Gnome configuration files in ubuntu (Lucid) store the shortcut properties in the top panel?
[12:32] <Darael> weaver535: From memory, .gnome2/panel2.d
[12:32] <Darael> weaver535: That is, ~/.gnome2/panel2.d/
[12:33] <AdvoWork> how can i manually install a gnome theme?
[12:33] <Darael> I've got a system here, wanted to run KVM, but kvm-ok says the virtualisation extensions are available but disabled in BIOS.  vmx being under flags in /proc/cpuinfo, but "not supported" attempting to modprobe kvm_intel support this.  Problem is, the BIOS configurator doesn't have any such option.  Can't find an updated BIOS, either.  Ideas?
[12:34] <ikonia> Darael: talk to the hardware vendor to get the bios issue resolved or for them to explain what the option in the bios is
[12:35] <Darael> AdvoWork: Put it in ~/.themes for your user, or /usr/share/themes (from memory) for system-wide availability.  Don't recall how you activate it if it doesn't then show up in the Appearance dialog - you may have to install extra software.
[12:37] <gagan662> goddard: http://pastebin.com/ESQdMb8q
[12:38] <compdoc> Daraelm there are often seperate places in the bios that have the options to enable/disable. However, on some low end mobos, there are no options
[12:39] <compdoc> Darael ^
[12:40] <AdvoWork> Darael, i can't even copy the folder to /usr/share/themes/ it omits it, even with sudo?
[12:40] <Dr_willis> 'it omits it' -- whats it?
[12:40] <Dr_willis> safest to put themes in the users .themes dir
[12:41] <AdvoWork> Dr_willis, so just make .themes ?
[12:41] <Dr_willis> yes...
[12:41] <bhearsum> where does dns resolver information live these days? my /etc/resolv.conf is empty, /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d has 'head' and 'base, both of which are empty, /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf is empty, and /var/run/dnsmasq doesn't exist --- yet dns resolution works for the most part (except this one host, which i'm trying to debug)
[12:42] <compdoc> bhearsum, you can create a file named 'tail' in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/
[12:42] <compdoc> theres another way too, but I dont remember
[12:43] <bhearsum> compdoc: just did that
[12:43] <compdoc> then you have to run resolvconf
[12:43] <gagan662> goddard: hey you there?
[12:43] <bhearsum> sudo service restart resolvconf, or something else?
[12:43] <compdoc> something like that - sorry, I just woke up and my brain is fuzzy
[12:44] <bhearsum> no worries
[12:44] <AdvoWork> Dr_willis, strange but, ive done mkdir /home/user/.themes  and i copy a folder to that, but get no paste option. I tried chmod 777 .themes and same issue. Any ideas?
[12:44] <bhearsum> ok, i restarted the resolvconf service to no effect
[12:44] <bhearsum> if i run it by hand i get:
[12:44] <bhearsum> resolvconf: Error: /etc/resolv.conf isn't a symlink, not doing anything.
[12:45] <bhearsum> finally something googlable =)
[12:45] <andygraybeal_> i'm mucking with 'setserial' and i'm getting 'inaproppriate ioctl for device' what would this mean?
[12:45] <jeremy1> Advo are you using chmod -R 777?
[12:45] <Dr_willis> why would the fisrt thing you try be chmod 777?
[12:46] <Dr_willis> use the terminal. look at the permissions and ownership
[12:46] <AdvoWork> jeremy1, tried that too. Dr_willis i only have one user on the system though, file owner and group owner of .themes is that same user
[12:46] <Dr_willis> see if you can 'touch testfile' in that dir.. you may be having deeper issues
[12:46] <glitsj16> bhearsum: there's also http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/ you might check
[12:47] <bhearsum> glitsj16: thanks!
[12:47]  * bhearsum pokes around
[12:48] <AdvoWork> Dr_willis, cd /home/user/.themes    touch test.txt  works
[12:49] <Dr_willis> try making a directory with the file manger in .themes perhaps.. as a test
[12:49] <syrinx_priest> Hi all.  Currently on 10.04 and want to run the Upgrade to go to 12.04, but it doesn't show up in the Update Manager even though I have the LTS option selected.
[12:49] <AdvoWork> Dr_willis, i right click to go Create new file or folder, both greyed out
[12:50] <Dr_willis> and what file manager are you using?
[12:50] <syrinx_priest> Shouldn't it be available now?
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> syrinx_priest  type !upgrade for instructions
[12:51] <Pici> syrinx_priest: 12.04 will only appear as an update from 10.04 once the .1 point release is out.
[12:51] <AdvoWork> Dr_willis, well its a fresh version of ubuntu 12.04 and i've selected GNOME on the login
[12:51] <syrinx_priest> Ohh, thx, was unaware of that.
[12:52] <Dr_willis> AdvoWork,  you said you were using Cinimon earlier. its not got its own file manager?
[12:52] <syrinx_priest> Obligatory next question, when will the .1 release be out?
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> syrinx_priest  23 august
[12:53] <syrinx_priest> Oh wow, ok thanks again.
[12:53] <Turbolinux> Hello everyone. I am looking for a clinic program. Do you have a recommendation? Thank you for your help.
[12:53] <AdvoWork> Dr_willis, i was earlier this morning, sorry for the confusion. I'm now using GNOME, but am trying to install themes. I tried using the gnome-tweak-tool but it won't work and i cant get any fixes to work, so am trying to do it manually
[12:53] <ikonia> Turbolinux: clinic program ?
[12:54] <Turbolinux> For patient recording and bill printing.
[12:54] <Turbolinux> Do you have a recommendation?
[12:54] <Dr_willis> AdvoWork,  well i wouldent be suprised if all these issues are due to stuff Cinimmon has done. Ive never used the thing.
[12:54] <Giant81> just curious, has anyone ever run exchange 2010 admin tools on Ubuntu, maybe using wine?
[12:55] <Turbolinux> It will be used for orthodontics.
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> Turbolinux  do you have something to compare it with, so we know what you mean?
[12:55] <andygraybeal_> okay i got it i'm an idiot
[12:55] <Turbolinux> I tried Clinica program but it's too simple unfortunately.
[12:56] <Turbolinux> I am looking for the programs like this program.
[12:56] <maria_> hello, I am new in ubuntu. I have some DVD's that are from the USA and I am in Spain which is PAL, how can I watch them please
[12:56] <andygraybeal_> would you guys know the command for a cutter bar to run on an epson ticket printer?
[12:56] <jeremy1> libdvdread4 I think
[12:56] <Dr_willis> maria_,  vlc may be able to bypass the region code. or you could rip them to video.
[12:56] <jeremy1> and libdvdcss
[12:56] <Dr_willis> !dvd
[12:57] <Turbolinux> Do you have a recommendation? It will be used for orthodontics. My father will use it.
[12:57] <maria_> Dr_willis, how do i do that
[12:57] <maxmc> Hi. I'm running ubuntu 12.04 on my thinkpad x220 and since today my headphones don't play sound. as soon as I unplug them sound plays through the notebook speakers. This is independent of the sound source (browser, soundsettings-test, rhythmbox,...) any ideas how to fix this?
[12:58] <Dr_willis> maria_,  theres 'dvd ripper' apps in the repos. assuming the dvds dont have some fancy copy protection they should work
[12:58] <UNG> Hello, is it worth upgrading ubuntu to version 12? Will it slow down my computer, or is it faster than the 11 version?
[12:58] <Turbolinux> Is there an orthodontist here? Do you use Ubuntu for clinic works?
[12:59] <maria_> ok I will have a look, thank you for your help
[12:59] <AdvoWork> Dr_willis, i logged out/back in, and i think its working
[12:59] <zykotick9> maria_: careful changing region codes on the dvd drive - it can only be done a couple of times, then the drive will lock out changes.  ripping is probably best bet.
[12:59] <bhearsum> how do i list out my current nameservers? the resolvconf resolv.conf only lists 127.0.0.1, which i assume is dnsmasq, but i can't find a dnsmasq configuration or runtime file anywhere
[12:59] <maria_> ok thanks for the advice
[13:00] <UNG> Is it worth upgrading ubuntu to version 12? Will it slow down my computer, or is it faster than the 11 version?
[13:00] <sipior> Turbolinux: that is…awfully specific. maybe try here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_healthcare_software
[13:00] <sipior> Turbolinux: or this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Dental
[13:00] <bhearsum> aha! i find /var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf
[13:00] <Turbolinux> Sipior: Thank you for your help. I  will look them.
[13:02] <UNG> Is it worth upgrading ubuntu to version 12? Will it slow down my computer, or is it faster than the 11 version?
[13:02] <sipior> UNG: performance should be comparable, in general.
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> UNG  12.04 will be supported longer, that makes it worth it
[13:02] <BluesKaj> bhearsum, open /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head and list your nameservers there otherwise resolv.conf gets overwritten and dnsmasq can't read it
[13:03] <UNG> Ok, thanks for answers :).
[13:04] <bhearsum> BluesKaj: that file is empty, but apparenty /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf points at 127.0.0.1
[13:04] <bhearsum> and i *finally* found the dnsmasq config in /var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf
[13:04] <ofog> Hi, i have a command, that is built up from several bash variables . When it runs within the script the output is different from when i copy and paste the command (that i echo'ed from the script).. Anyone have any ideas why ?
[13:04] <compdoc> bhearsu, the command to update is:  sudo resolvconf -u
[13:04] <Dr_willis> heh.. wonder if  'locate  dnsmasq.conf' would have found it
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> bhearsum  it seems you did the dirty part of the job for us, always nice for future reference :)
[13:06] <bhearsum> MonkeyDust: :)
[13:06] <BluesKaj> bhearsum, what do you mean empty ...this is mine , http://paste.ubuntu.com/1073017/
[13:07] <bhearsum> BluesKaj: ok, not "empty", but "useless": http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1689130
[13:08] <gagan662> ubuntu 10.04 stuck at copying file. here is dmesg -> http://pastebin.com/ESQdMb8q
[13:09] <BluesKaj> bhearsum, then rdit the file and add the correct nameserver , that's just looking at your hosts file right now , but don't ask me why
[13:09] <BluesKaj> edit
[13:09] <bhearsum> it gets reset on boot
[13:09] <bhearsum> i don't understand this system, but it's working so i'm not going to muck with it at this point
[13:09] <bhearsum> i appreciate your input nonetheless though
[13:10] <DarkStar1> hello does apt-file still work as a command in 12.04?
[13:11] <BluesKaj> bhearsum, not if you add your nameservers to the "head" , it will write those nameservers to the resolv.conf file until you change the settings in "head"
[13:11] <Turbolinux> Is there a solution for moving an Access 97 database file to LibreOffice Base program?
[13:11] <bhearsum> ah
[13:11] <Pici> DarkStar1: it does if you have apt-file installed.
[13:11] <bhearsum> so modifying 'head' is effictively the same as modifying /etc/resolv.conf used to be?
[13:11] <BluesKaj> bhearsum, yes , exactly
[13:11] <bhearsum> interesting
[13:11] <bhearsum> thanks BluesKaj!
[13:11] <DarkStar1> Pici aah thanks
[13:12] <DarkStar1> I'll go install that now
[13:12] <Turbolinux> Can LibreOffice run this file?
[13:12] <BluesKaj> yeah it pi**ed me off ..why that was done is beyonf me , bhearsum
[13:13] <gagan662> ubuntu 10.04 stuck at copying file. running it as live. I get this dmesg -> http://pastebin.com/ESQdMb8q
[13:14] <Arketype> exit
[13:14] <Arketype> ...
[13:14] <Bellinger> OLLEGATOR
[13:14] <Bellinger> hi
[13:14] <Turbolinux> Is there an user who moved his or her database to LibreOffice Base program?
[13:15] <fidel> Turbolinux: from what to Libre?
[13:15] <ldiamond> Is there any good Hard drive diagnostic tools? I tried SMART but it says my disk is healthy, yet, my music sounds like if I was running with one of those old portable CD drives.
[13:15] <Bellinger> what?
[13:15] <Turbolinux> From Access 97 to LibreOffice Base program?
[13:15] <Turbolinux> .
[13:15] <fidel> ldiamond: how is hd-quality related to sound-quality?
[13:15] <ldiamond> fidel, because I'm playing music from the HDD?
[13:16] <ldiamond> fidel, I get skipping.
[13:16] <ldiamond> fidel, as in, the hard drive is not responding fast enough to play the song.
[13:16] <fidel> ldiamond: how does your sound sounds if it comes from i.e. USB?
[13:16] <fidel> ldiamond: my first feeling says: your sound is causing issues - not your hd (just a feeling)
[13:16] <ldiamond> fidel, it's not about the quality of the sound. The songs keep skipping
[13:17] <fidel> ldiamond: is it ONLY skipping from that specific HD?
[13:17] <fidel> and working well from all other sources?
[13:17] <viju> must be some issue with alsamixer
[13:17] <lamks> ldiamond: try different storage to make sure
[13:17] <ldiamond> yes
[13:17] <Turbolinux> Fidel: Is it possible?
[13:17] <fidel> ldiamond: yes what?
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> !who| ldiamond
[13:18] <BluesKaj> it's the application , not the hdd ldiamond, otherwise all of your apps would be affected by whatever was causing the hdd to malfunction
[13:18] <echo083> what is the new scanner manager in ubuntu precise ?
[13:18] <ldiamond> MonkeyDust, I was adding his nickname in front of every lines.
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> echo083  there's simple scan and xsane
[13:19] <echo083> MonkeyDust, in precise the default i simple scan ?
[13:19] <echo083> *is
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> echo083  yes
[13:20] <echo083> MonkeyDust, thanks !! :)
[13:20] <uhausy> alright got a process running inside a screen
[13:21] <uhausy> how can i "listen" to its output kinda?
[13:21] <uhausy> i've tried cat /dev/pts/1  where the process is running in pts/1, but, no output
[13:21] <uhausy> am i doing it wrong?
[13:22] <zykotick9> uhausy: you should be able to use "screen -r" to reconnect (if you only have 1 screen session)
[13:22] <uhausy> yeah, cant reattach, want to read from another process kinda
[13:23] <uhausy> i assume the above is only capturing input to the terminal?
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> uhausy  or do you mean you want to see it change? there's the command for that
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> uhausy  or do you mean you want to see it change? there's the command watch for that*
[13:23] <uhausy> no, i have a process running in a screen
[13:23] <uhausy> which outputs stuff
[13:24] <uhausy> which i want to capture from another process
[13:24] <uhausy> without, screen -r/-x, e.g. im writing a perl script to capture
[13:24] <uhausy> how can i capture the output of a pts?
[13:25] <andygraybeal_> how do i send a "GS" command to a serial port?  (like an ESCAPE command) ... 'group seperator'
[13:29] <Bellinger> OLLEGATOR
[13:40] <AdvoWork> Anyone know why, when using Cinnamon, and I right click on an application and chose Add To Panel. It doesnt?
[13:40] <tommyvyo> anyone know of a good Git Mergetool I can use on ubuntu server?
[13:41] <eutheria> i have an ssd, should i use full disk encryption? i hear you can't TRIM if you do
[13:41] <compdoc> eutheria, be sure to enable trim in fstab
[13:42] <cheater> hi
[13:43] <cheater> does ubuntu have a file where the release name used for apt sources ("precise", "oneiric", "lucid") is kept?
[13:43] <sipior> eutheria: well TrueCrypt permits TRIM use with full-disk encryption, for example. i think the problem is that people can then figure out which blocks are not in use. that probably isn't an issue for you.
[13:44] <eutheria> sipior, i was going to create a /boot +512m + / as an encrypted partition
[13:44] <cheater> ah, lsb_release -sc
[13:48] <telepusik> someone eager to help?
[13:49] <maddjimbeam> #binrev
[13:49] <telepusik> i cant install ubuntu from usb :(
[13:49] <Z``> Hi people. Is there any guide on how to netinstall ubuntu ? Everything I tried from the wiki didn't work. Thanks!
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> telepusik  what happens or doesnt happen when you try
[13:50] <telepusik> MonkeyDust: it just says SYSLINUX EBIOS ... and nothing happens
[13:50] <zykotick9> Z``: download mini.iso and follow prompts?  or do you mean netboot?
[13:51] <Z``> yeh,netboot (or etherboot)
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> telepusik  i found a link from 2010, what version are you intalling
[13:52] <telepusik> MonkeyDust, i tried to install 32 and 64bit 12.04 version the same thing, but when i tried to install 10.04 version it booted but i had some CD ROM error when was trying to install it
[13:53] <zykotick9> telepusik: my main box has a non-booting issue with recent SYSLINUX not booting.  Unetbootin gets around the issue for me.
[13:53] <telepusik> zykotick9: i downloaded unetbootin but dont know how to use it
[13:54] <AdvoWork> I installed KDE on 12.04 as a test, but i'm not a fan, so i can change it to log back into normal ubuntu, but i still see the KDE login box etc when i turn the pc on. Any ideas?
[13:54] <zykotick9> telepusik: run it an select your iso you already have...
[13:54] <telepusik> zykotick9, and distribution?
[13:55] <zykotick9> telepusik: actually, i think the USB need to be formatted to FAT first.  there is a manual ISO selection there somewhere (so you don't have to redownload)
[13:55] <FraNkiiToo-497b> Alguien sabe como instalar ubuntu con comandos?
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> !es
[13:55] <fred1> zykotick9 fat 32
[13:55] <zykotick9> fred1: yup
[13:55] <telepusik> zykotick9, my usb is FAT32 and exFAT i formatted it every time
[13:56] <telepusik> zykotick9, before using ultraiso
[13:56] <Pupeno_W> Hello. In my own computer I have Host *, ForwardAgent yes. I do ssh root@b1 (b1 is a local virtual machine I'm using to test some stuff). If I do ssh root@b1 inside b1, shouldn't I log in straight away due to the ssh forward? or am I missing something?
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> Pupeno_W  ssh root looks very wrongand dangerous
[13:57] <fred1> telepusik:http://askubuntu.com/questions/128802/ubuntu-12-04-wont-boot-from-usb
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> Pupeno_W  ssh root looks very wrong and dangerous
[13:57] <Pupeno_W> MonkeyDust: that's besides the point.
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> Pupeno_W  is it even possible to ssh as root?
[13:58] <Pupeno_W>  In my own computer I have Host *, ForwardAgent yes. I do ssh pupeno@b1 (b1 is a local virtual machine I'm using to test some stuff). If I do ssh pupeno@b1 inside b1, shouldn't I log in straight away due to the ssh forward? or am I missing something?
[13:58] <Pupeno_W> Better now?
[13:58] <compdoc> shouldnt be able to ssh as root
[13:58] <Pupeno_W> MonkeyDust: of course it is if you set up a ssh key.
[13:58] <telepusik> fred1, i'm using windows xp right now, and dat guide looks like for ubuntu
[13:59] <fred1> telepusik: install inside windows is an option
[14:02] <telepusik> fred1: no  cuz i have two notebooks one with windows, the one i'm typing u from, and second with ubuntu 10.04 and also i dont know password for ubuntu and have no administrator rights, i want to install new ubuntu on that notebook
[14:02] <I-0> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=446 count=1 ;reboot ;     Can any one explain this  Line
[14:03] <Pupeno_W> So… now that I'm not talking about scary root… does anybody know what I'm talking about?
[14:04] <fred1> telepusik: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword/
[14:05] <I-0> how to go on ubuntu-offtopics  ?
[14:05] <edogawaconan> hello
[14:05] <edogawaconan> I'm looking for pcretest
[14:05] <andresn> I have an application running on tomcat as a service and it has problems to get an internet connection. Is that normal?
[14:05] <edogawaconan> a search on the website doesn't seem to yield anything on precise
[14:05] <Gyges> I-0, !offtopic
[14:05] <I-0> !offtopic
[14:06] <ketty> eccomi
[14:06] <edogawaconan> it's in lucid, but not anything after that :(
[14:06] <hanc> hello,I have a problem about my ubuntu 12.04
[14:06] <edogawaconan> why did it removed
[14:07] <hanc> i install it on my thinkpad t60
[14:07] <vexus> hanc: and what is your problem?
[14:08] <edogawaconan> ah, apparently a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcre3/+bug/889073
[14:08] <hanc> as the system just start, everything is ok.but a few moment later,the sound became not very clear
[14:09] <hanc> if i logout then login again or restart my system, everything is ok again
[14:09] <samba35> how do i check wheter my gui support unity 3d or not ?
[14:10] <neteffect> i want to install ubuntu on this windows 7 machine
[14:10] <telepusik> fred1: already have a question when should i hold shift?
[14:10] <AdvoWork> in unity, is there a way i can get a fixed menu at the top, like a quick launch? i know its on the left hand side, but would prefer it at the top too, or something?
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> neteffect  you need a free partition that's large enough to install ubuntu
[14:11] <hanc> anybody help me?
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> neteffect  a partition is space on your harddisk
[14:11] <dxdemetriou> I'm trying to use /etc/dconf/db/local.d/locks in Ubuntu 12.04 but it does not work: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141653/preventing-users-from-changing-pinned-applications-in-the-launcher
[14:11] <daze> Anybody knows what ctrl+shift+x does in guake? I have it set up for KeepassX autotyping and it's not working for guake (toggles out of the terminal, as if alt+tab was pressed). Guake keyboard shortcuts do not have that combination set..
[14:12] <Punch> I'm having some problems installing 12.04 on my system. The boot just hangs about 4 seconds in with no errors. The last line I see is system_call_fastpath
[14:13] <fred1> telepusik:  while the PC Boots
[14:13] <glitsj16> samba35: have you tried '/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p' yet?
[14:13] <Quartic> Hi, I'm having a weird graphics issue - sometimes it appears that some lines on my screen are shifted to the right by about 10-30 pixels. It affects my background, and the launcher, but not open windows. Any ideas?
[14:13] <telepusik> fred1: ok and if i changed my BIOS so he boots from usb first do i need to change it back ?
[14:14] <samba35> yes on all options but i getting freqant gui crash
[14:14] <Gyges> Punch, what happens next?
[14:14] <BronzeEagle> Hello, I'm having issues with using dual monitors when I run xrandr --output DVI-0 --left-of DVI-1 it does what it's supposed to, but I can't use the mouse on DVI-1
[14:14] <BronzeEagle> And when I tried arandr it did the same thing
[14:14] <uhausy> @reboot in crontab is prior to ifup/networking up, anywya to make it after ?
[14:14] <samba35> glitsj16, is 2d and 3d use same hardware or 3d require better hardware
[14:15] <Punch> gyges: I logged onto IRC to ask for help :-D
[14:15] <Gyges> Punch, i mean does it reboot?
[14:15] <BronzeEagle> Usung xfcem and there is no sticky option under display
[14:15] <Punch> Gyges: Nope, just hangs
[14:15] <BronzeEagle> xfce*
[14:15] <Punch> Gyges: The screen is full of typical looking kernel loading messages. No kernel panic or anything like that
[14:15] <fred1> telepusik: if you dont have a cd in the drive it wont matter#
[14:16] <Punch> Gyges: This happens whether I select the boot to ubuntu option or the install to hard driv e option.
[14:17] <rattatoue> I am on a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04. Everything works good, except. When I plugin my Logitech webcam it shows up in LSUSB, however it crashes pulseaudio. Some programs I use for like listening to music. If the webcam is plugged in, they start skipping like crazy. This is only on ubuntu, no problem on other distros. How can I fix this? its really annoying
[14:17] <r00t_> DOCTOR DOCTOR GIVE ME THE NEWS IVE GOT A BAD CASE OF
[14:17] <dxdemetriou> what I'm trying to do is this: "http://vniup.com/index.php/ubuntu-gnome/is-there-a-way-to-disable-changing-the-background-in-gnome.html". In previous Ubuntu versions I used: "sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename /usr/share/backgrounds/1280x1024.png"
[14:17] <glitsj16> samba35: if it states "Unity 3D supported' it should work on present hardware .. might be something else causing the issue .. have you checked /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors/warnings ?
[14:17] <r00t_> killing jews
[14:17] <neteffect> will ubuntu put a boot loader on my windows 7 box???
[14:17] <Gyges> oink oink
[14:17] <samba35> ok i will report next time
[14:17] <samba35> thanks
[14:18] <sipior> r00t_: don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
[14:18] <omegax00> I need help with my mouse
[14:18] <escott> uhausy, modify your cron job to start cron after networking
[14:18] <fred1>  neteffect: yes if you want it to
[14:18] <neteffect> yes i do
[14:18] <omegax00> Microsoft Wireless Mouse 5000 Model 1387
[14:18] <Gyges> escott, did you get any sleep?
[14:18] <neteffect> i want everything to work perfect
[14:19] <escott> Gyges, yes?
[14:19] <omegax00> I can't seem to find the same driver that Damn Small Linux is using
[14:19] <omegax00> In DSL it works fine no jitters or slow movement
[14:19] <omegax00> I am using xbmcbuntu now
[14:19] <fred1> neteffect: in that case read and read and read before you install
[14:19] <neteffect> cool
[14:19] <I-0> who will gave me more money 1.Linux 2.Programming language (C , C++, JAVA )
[14:19] <uhausy> escott: any pointers as to how?
[14:19] <Quartic> Is there a way I can post a screenshot of the issue I'm having?
[14:20] <samba35> what is compiz ?
[14:20] <omegax00> please help me or show me where to go for help
[14:20] <wilee-nilee> neteffect, Ubuntu has a bootloader called grub it is grub 2 and it will boot ubuntu, if you install from windows a wubi instal the Windows bootloader will be the bootloader
[14:20] <escott> uhausy, look at /etc/init/* those files have fairly straightforward dependencies
[14:20] <Gyges> samba35, !compiz , composite manager , graphic effects window boarder
[14:20] <Gyges> border
[14:20] <uhausy> tyty
[14:20] <omegax00> Microsoft Wireless Mouse 5000 Model 1387
[14:20] <omegax00> I need drivers
[14:20] <omegax00> help please :)
[14:20] <Abhijit> omegax00, following this conversation may help you http://www.spinics.net/linux/fedora/fedora-users/msg387487.html
[14:21] <escott> uhausy, anacron starts on runlevel so you might change it to depend on networking, or create your own job
[14:22] <Punch> Does anyone know where to find installation troubleshooting documentation? I've tried seaching and haven't had any luck.
[14:22] <telepusik> fred1: one more question how can i create a new NTFS hard drive or what without liveusb?
[14:22] <maxmc> Sorry for asking agin, but noone answerd so far:  I'm running ubuntu 12.04 on my thinkpad x220 and since today my headphones don't play sound. as soon as I unplug them sound plays through the notebook speakers. This is independent of the sound source (browser, soundsettings-test, rhythmbox,...) any ideas how to fix this?
[14:22] <Gyges> !screenshot > Quartic
[14:23] <wilee-nilee> Punch, there are a numerous problems that can happen tell us what your are and we can go from there.
[14:23] <wilee-nilee> yours
[14:23] <tren> maxmc tryed alsamixer in terminal ?
[14:23] <Punch> wilee-nilee: Hi Wilee-nilee, I'm not sure what else I can add. The boot process hangs about 4 seconds in with a screenful of regular looking kernel messages. The last line says system_call_fastpath
[14:24] <Gyges> wilee-nilee, ^in the livecd
[14:24] <wilee-nilee> maxmc, there is a speaker or headphone option in the right click of the sound icon.
[14:24] <Punch> wilee-nilee: This is from the installer which I copied to USB using the Universal USB Installer described on the ubuntu install pages.
[14:24] <omegax00> no this doesn't help Abijit
[14:25] <maxmc> @tren, wilee-nilee: thanks, i ll check your suggestions
[14:25] <wilee-nilee> Punch, this an actual install already or booting a disc or usb.
[14:25] <Quartic> Ok, the problem I'm having: http://imagebin.org/219327
[14:25] <omegax00> As I said I have the mouse connected it just moves very slow and jittery
[14:25] <wilee-nilee> Punch, cool you answered while I was typing.
[14:25] <Punch> wilee-nilee: I'm attempting a fresh install using 12.04 amd64 media from a USB drive.
[14:26] <Punch> wilee-nilee: I'm downloading the alternate installer now to see if that helps for any reason.
[14:26] <Cenzino> list please
[14:26] <Gyges> !list > Cenzino
[14:26] <bazhang> Cenzino, its not a warez network
[14:26] <wilee-nilee> Punch, you will probably get help here, you might try the nomodeset option.
[14:26] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | Punch
[14:27] <Punch> wilee-nilee: sounds good, I will give it a try.
[14:27] <omegax00> how would I find the mouse driver that works with ubuntu with my wireless 5000 mouse?
[14:27] <tren> my VGA drivers do not work and i cannot open any application that uses opengl, here is a paste of me trying to install fglrx drivers :D  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1072739/
[14:28] <dudud> can someone help me with rtorrent/torrent on ubuntu, im close but some dudud error
[14:28] <omegax00> It works Perfect in Damn Small Linus but I don't want to use it its too limited for me
[14:28] <tren> this happend after kernel update
[14:28] <Gyges> Quartic, it may be irrelevant but ~/.xsession-errors might show something ( ~ stands for /home/username/ ;)
[14:29] <bestdnd> i have a problem of overheating, sensors command gives me http://paste.ubuntu.com/1073154/    what can i do? underclock? set the fan to run faster? how do i do it?
[14:30] <Gyges> tren, have you tried rebooting?
[14:30] <tren> Gyges: yes
[14:31] <AdvoWork> in unity, is there a way i can get a fixed menu at the top, like a quick launch? i know its on the left hand side, but would prefer it at the top too, or something?
[14:31] <BronzeEagle> Hello, I'm having issues with using dual monitors when I run xrandr --output DVI-0 --left-of DVI-1 it does what it's supposed to, but I can't use the mouse on DVI-1
[14:32] <escott> BronzeEagle, so the cursor doesn't appear?
[14:32] <tren> Gyges: Building only for 3.2.6 Building for architecture i686 Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed.
[14:32] <Gyges> i once set two monitors 1 inch apart in the config, and i have to hit the middle border with the mouse , to pass through!!!
[14:33] <SkippersBoss> AdvoWork, I thought the whole point of unity was to ditch thismode of operation and use the super key instead
[14:33] <BronzeEagle> escott: the cursor appears but it stops at the edge of DVI-0 and won't go to DVI-1
[14:33] <Gyges> i had to collide with it in speed
[14:33] <Quartic> Gyges, here's that file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1073163/
[14:33] <escott> BronzeEagle, so how do you know its actually left of DVI-1
[14:34] <escott> BronzeEagle, i would try and drag a window to the other display and see if you can drag that window around
[14:34] <Punch> wilee-nilee: Adding nomodeset did the trick. Thank you very much!
[14:34] <BronzeEagle> escott: because I can drag windows to DVI-1
[14:34] <Joshua_MG> hi all.
[14:34] <BronzeEagle> Just it stops at the mouse
[14:34] <Gyges> tren, isn't there a kernel-source package?
[14:34] <Joshua_MG> How can I change my sound to Mono instead of Stereo?
[14:35] <escott> BronzeEagle, so the window extents partway across but you cant move it further, or can you drag all the way onto the other display, but there is no cursor
[14:35] <BronzeEagle> escott: the former
[14:36] <tren> Gyges: now u got me ... i really dont know, im not that good with linux only recently started using it
[14:37] <bestdnd> i have a problem of overheating, sensors command gives me http://paste.ubuntu.com/1073154/    what can i do? underclock? set the fan to run faster? how do i do it?
[14:37] <escott> BronzeEagle, what graphics card?
[14:38] <Gyges> it's ok ,
[14:38] <Gyges> how can i install the source of a kernel?
[14:38] <Gyges> Quartic, could it have to do with the Expo plugin of Compiz,? can you try disabling it ?
[14:38] <escott> BronzeEagle, and are you using panning and scaling at all
[14:38] <telepusik> sorry guys, how can i create a new NTFS file system without using liveusb/cs/dvd?
[14:39] <Gyges> telepusik, do you have linux installed?
[14:39] <BronzeEagle> escott: 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1650 Pro (Secondary) (rev 9e)
[14:39] <telepusik> Gyges: yes
[14:39] <AdvoWork> ive just accidentally disabled unity lol, any idea how I can get it back, i cant get any menus or anything? this was in compiz doh
[14:40] <Gyges> telepusik, then gparted  is a partition manager
[14:40] <Quartic> Gyges, apparently Expo is required by the "Ubuntu Unity Plugin"
[14:40] <Gyges> oohh
[14:41] <telepusik> Gyges: well i want to install win7 on my ubuntu, and when im trying to install gparted it shows me some error
[14:41] <escott> BronzeEagle, fglrx or radeonhd? and what does xrandr say
[14:41] <vexus> telepusik: what is your system?
[14:42] <fred1> telepusik: if you do that all you will have is windows 7 no linux
[14:42] <Gyges> telepusik, the only way i know in order to install win on linux is through virtualization, do you know what that is ?
[14:43] <vexus> Gyges: no you can manipulate the windowsbootloader to start grub with easybcd was the only way for my on my s205 for over a year
[14:43] <bestdnd> i think he mean dual boot
[14:43] <maxmc> tren: i dont know what to do with alsamixer. , wilee-nilee: i right-clicked every sound icon, but couldn't find any headphones options.
[14:43] <Gyges> vexus, thnx for the info
[14:43] <BronzeEagle> escott: http://pastebin.com/gJ7FKqqZ
[14:43] <telepusik> Gyges: something like virtual box?
[14:44] <telepusik> vexus: linux 10.04
[14:44] <telepusik> vexus: 64bit
[14:44] <escott> BronzeEagle, and its not stuck in the dead space
[14:44] <Gyges> i suppose, i heard people talking about it
[14:44] <vexus> telepusik: and the hardware the interesting thing is do you have efi or bios
[14:44] <WhitePelican> assuming one has the proper working equipment, is there software available to play blu-ray discs on a linux box?
[14:44] <vexus> and do you like win7 64 bit oder 32 bit
[14:45] <BronzeEagle> escott: dead space?
[14:45] <AdvoWork> in my old version of ubuntu i had multiple desks. is this possible with unity/12.04?
[14:45] <philinux> AdvoWork: yes
[14:45] <telepusik> fred1: can i make double OS as i have on my pc winXP and 7 and when its booting i just select what i need
[14:45] <telepusik> vexus: bios
[14:46] <escott> BronzeEagle, DVI-1 starts at +1280+0 but is only 1024 rows, so there are 176 dead pixels (below?) it
 yes, it;s called dual boot
[14:46] <philinux> AdvoWork: use compiz config settings manager or myunity
[14:46] <escott> BronzeEagle, where 176=1280-1024
[14:46] <escott> rather 256
[14:46] <fred1> telepusik: if you install windows 7 first then Ubuntu you will have a dual boot system you choose which one to run at boot
[14:46] <philinux> AdvoWork: 12.04 has 4 by default
[14:47] <BronzeEagle> I see
[14:47] <vexus> telepusik: ok then there should be no problem (the way i would prefer is install both completly new) safe your data then boot windows installer make a partion (100 GB or so) and install ist then follows ubuntu 12.04
[14:47] <mojalefa> how do i get oracle 10g working ubuntu?
[14:47] <escott> BronzeEagle, so try to move it in the middle of the screen. if its not that. it could be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/570151
[14:47] <AdvoWork> philinux, ahh so i have to enable it, whats it calle?
[14:47] <vexus> telepusik: but that ereases all data on your hard disk
[14:48] <philinux> AdvoWork: no you get 4 on the launcher - the icon for the switcher is at the bottom
[14:48] <philinux> AdvoWork: you only need to fiddle if you want more than 4
[14:49] <fred1> telepusik:  http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony
[14:50] <telepusik> vexus: i have no data on ubuntu i just installed it
[14:50] <vexus> telepusik: another way without killing all data would be to make a partion with gpartet or partet or something else in linux then install windows 7 and there you have to install easybcd and make a boot entry for your ubuntu then you can boot both
[14:50] <BronzeEagle> escott: Nothing
[14:51] <bestdnd> i have a problem of overheating, sensors command gives me http://paste.ubuntu.com/1073154/    what can i do? underclock? set the fan to run faster? how do i do it?
[14:51] <philinux> telepusik: how often are you going to boot into windows rather than ubuntu
[14:51] <telepusik> vexus: as i said i cant install gparted it shows some error, can u tell me more about partition when i'll be installing win7
[14:52] <telepusik> philinux: more often in win7
[14:52] <fred1>  telepusik:  http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony
[14:52] <kaya>  i was just login as guest user and tried to copy some files but after restarting  i don wanna see the files to guest user
[14:53] <BronzeEagle> interesting!
[14:53] <kaya>  i was just login as guest user and tried to copy some files but after restarting  i don wanna see the files to guest user  need a help on this guys
[14:53] <BronzeEagle> escott: when I put DVI-1 on top of DVI-0 I can use DVI-1
[14:53] <telepusik> the only problem is that i have no cd or dvd only USB, and when im trying to install 12.04 version of ubuntu it doesnt boots showing "SYSLINUX EBIOS and so on"
[14:54] <vexus> telepusik: maybe your md-dos table is corrupted by an error and gpartet does not get it windows is better in ignoring errors and bugs from partiontables if you boot in the installation you should use advandced mode and then delete every partion
[14:54] <escott> BronzeEagle, you could see if its an issue with GLX. usually that would appear as an "I drag the window on to the other screen and it disappears" but it could be this
[14:55] <telepusik> vexus: last time i tried to install win7 on ubuntu it said i have no NTFS file system
[14:55] <telepusik> vexus: do i need to try again and delete all the partitions that would help?
[14:55] <Gyges> telepusik, just saying, there should be an option delete unknown partition or something like that...
[14:56] <escott> BronzeEagle, when they are stacked the total dimension is 1280x(1024+768) < (1024+1280)*1024 so if the graphics card can't handle the larger dimension in GLX it might handle the smaller
[14:56] <vexus> telepusik: afterthat make a new partion with the space you like to have for windows then choose it to install windows for linux you need 15-30 GB for /root maybe 100 mb for /boot (i like it to bee first partion) and 5-x for /home
[14:57] <telepusik> Gyges: yeah it was when i was trying to install win7 but i didnt used it cuz some guy said it doesn't works well
[14:57] <vexus> telepusik: windows does not like to have other partions beside itself so it is better to delete everything
[14:58] <telepusik> vexus: so u saying it would be better to fully delete ubuntu then install win7 and on win7 to install ubuntu again?
[14:58] <escott> telepusik, that shouldnt be necessary. if you create the free space for windows you should be able to use that
[14:58] <vexus> telepusik: then make only one ntfs partion with the windows installer with fixed size (maybe leave the first 100 mb for linux /boot)
[14:58] <vexus> telepusik: yeap it is the normal way
[14:58] <fred1>  telepusik:f your bios is an older type it wont boot from usb you are trying to install the hard way
[14:59] <telepusik> vexus: so how many partitions should i have?
[14:59] <BronzeEagle> escott: when I set DVI-0 to 1024x768 I can put my cursor on DVI-1 but it only goes as far as 1/4 of the screen and stops and won't go any further
[14:59] <vexus> telepusik: if you install windows only one with ntfs
[14:59] <daze> where is the proxy configuration stored in ubuntu?
[14:59] <vexus> telepusik: but it should be smaller then your hard disk
[15:00] <telepusik> fred1: actually my bios is booting usb flash but only ubuntu 10.04 installation, it didnt booted 12.04 versions
[15:00] <escott> BronzeEagle, sounds like some limitation in the graphics driver, very possible GLX based. you are just hitting a limit on screen size. try unity-2d
[15:00] <telepusik> vexus: ok will try
[15:01] <escott> BronzeEagle, also (1280-1024)/1024=1/4 ie 1/4 of the screen on the top is a box which is 1280x1280
[15:07] <telepusik> vexus: one last question, if i'll delete all the partitions and something would go wrong how can i fix problems or there should be no problems? just asking before deleting :)
[15:09] <AdvoWork> philinux, i see no icon? sorry for the hassle
[15:09] <recon69_lap> telepusik: you should always be able to boot from a live cd or live usb to install a OS. you do have a live CD?
[15:09] <svt_raiden> hi all
[15:09] <Quartic> Anyone have any idea what's causing this: http://imagebin.org/219327?
[15:09] <svt_raiden> does anyone knows how to make videocast by capturing my screen in Kubuntu?
[15:09] <svt_raiden> or Ubuntu
[15:09] <svt_raiden> :)
[15:09] <AdvoWork> philinux, ive got the unity launcher on the left, and a top bar which just shows the time/settings. no bottom bar
[15:10] <philinux> AdvoWork: it's the bottom icon on the left hand launcher
[15:10] <telepusik> recon69_lap: no. it doesn't works
[15:11] <recon69_lap> telepusik: what does not work?
[15:13] <telepusik> recon69_lap: i have no livecd/dvd was trying to do a liveusb but when im trying 12.04 version it doesnt boot, and when i tried 10.04 version it boot but i had error when it was checking cd rom
[15:13] <rigel> is there a way to redirect a port without sudo'ing?
[15:13] <rigel> i want to redirect all outgoing traffic to port x to the same port on localhost, and i would like to do so without needing to sudo
[15:14] <escott> rigel, no
[15:15] <recon69_lap> telepusik: do you have a usb stick that you can make into a live usb? and will you rig boot from usb? or check the iso's md5 check sum and burn the CD again, then have CD check itself for errors.
[15:16] <utopman> salut ici
[15:18] <neteffect> hi/bonjour
[15:18] <telepusik> recon69_lap: omg i understood only 3 words from what u said :D
[15:19] <[flux]> lol, telepusik
[15:20] <recon69_lap> telepusik: ok, I'll go slow, do you have a usb Flash Drive that you can burn the ubuntu 12.04 ISO to?
[15:20] <AdvoWork> philinux, doh, sorry, i see it. can i also do a ctrl+left to switch?ive got this on my old pc, cant remember what i used to do it though
[15:22] <philinux> AdvoWork: hold down the win key to see all keyboard shortcuts
[15:22] <telepusik> recon69_lap, yes sir
[15:22] <telepusik> recon69_lap, i already tried but it didnt worked fine :(
[15:23] <gitesh> ##ubuntu
[15:25] <recon69_lap> telepusik: where did you get the iso you are using(link plz), what OS are you using to create the USB, Do you know How to set the BOOT order in your computers BIOS?
[15:28] <aristidesfl> I'm trying to resize my boot partition with gparted, but it's already passed 15 minutes and still going. the partition has 9GB of space occupied and I'm resizing it from 300 to 14. is it normal for it to take so long?
[15:29] <NewLappy> for some reason I'm having a really difficult time wrapping my head around this whole UEFI concept :S Who has some familiarity with it?
[15:29] <recon69_lap> aristidesfl: I'd wait as long as the hard drive is busy.
[15:30] <BluesKaj> aristidesfl, why so large for just some boot data
[15:31] <aristidesfl> BluesKaj when I say boot I mean OS
[15:31] <AdvoWork> i have a command that works on redhat and centos: rpm -qa | grep -i test  is there an alternative for Ubuntu? that command gives: test-apache-7.2.0_GA_2669.RHEL5_64-20120410001942 for example
[15:32] <BluesKaj> aristidesfl, like /  ?
[15:32] <aristidesfl> finished
[15:32] <aristidesfl> BluesKaj like that
[15:33] <BluesKaj> mine is 8G , and that's plenty
[15:33] <recon69_lap> AdvoWork: well, ubuntu uses apt-get and it's got a test only switch. should be able to replace rmp with apt-get
[15:34] <NewLappy> BluesKaj, 8gig boot partition or 8gig / partition?
[15:34] <dury> hi there channel :-)
[15:34] <BluesKaj>  NewLappy  /
[15:35] <vexus> telepusik: maybe then it is better to make a cd from iso
[15:36] <aristidesfl> lets see if it boot
[15:36] <aristidesfl> s
[15:36] <NewLappy> I'm running Ubuntu on a computer I need to do some work on...as a "temporary" solution, I have an old 8gig HD in it and just looked with df -h and I'm using 4.7 gig is all.....however, I don't really have much in the way of personal data or files on here (maybe 5-10 Meg)....but I did realize the other day that when I installed Eclipse and some stuff to dapple in android development that it filled up pretty quickly
[15:36] <omegax00> that didn't help at all
[15:36] <vexus> telepusik: or you could use unetbootin or the ubuntu version from it to make an bootable usb
[15:36] <dury> in my 12.04 desktop disappeared the top panel and left one I guess it's Unity
[15:37] <aristidesfl> it booted success
[15:37] <dury> I was probing with  compiz
[15:37] <AdvoWork> recon69_lap, so apt-get -qa | grep -i test ?
[15:38] <dury> aristidesfl: you talk with me
[15:38] <ikonia> NewLappy: how would you like us to help you ?
[15:38] <omegax00> is there any one here that has a Microsoft Wireless Mouse?
[15:38] <aristidesfl> dury does it matter?
[15:38] <ikonia> omegax00: yes, I use microsoft mouse
[15:38] <omegax00> ok well how did you get the drivers installed
[15:38] <dury> aristidesfl: yeah I can't lanch any application
[15:38] <ikonia> omegax00: I didn't need any
[15:38] <omegax00> I can't find them at microsoft
[15:39] <omegax00> :(
[15:39] <omegax00> well I am using a Wireless Mouse 5000 Model1378
[15:39] <LjL> omegax00: my microsoft wireless mouse didn't need any drivers.
[15:39] <dury> aristidesfl: how can I get it back normal desktop
[15:39] <LjL> it just worked.
[15:39] <aristidesfl> dury no clue
[15:39] <omegax00> and it installed a driver but its not fuctioning correctly
[15:39] <ikonia> omegax00: you shouldn't need any, they are fully supported devices in xorg and native in the kernel event drivers
[15:39] <LjL> omegax00: seems pretty unlikely Microsoft would provide Linux drivers for their products, anyway, if you ask me
[15:39] <ikonia> omegax00: what installed a "driver"
[15:39] <omegax00> Linux
[15:40] <ikonia> omegax00: I believe you are mistaken
[15:40] <omegax00> I am using XBMCBuntu
[15:40] <NewLappy> ikonia, well, I just got a new laptop and it has UEFI (at least I'm pretty sure it does) and I've spent a couple hours now reading forum posts and online information but just can't quite wrap my head around it. I am hoping to find someone who has some experience with it to bounce some ideas off of interactively and increase my understanding....(this has nothing to do with the talk about the 8gig HD, that was just a side convo with Blues
[15:40] <NewLappy> Kaj)
[15:40] <dury> ikonia: can you help, please
[15:40] <omegax00> in Damn Small Linux the Mouse Drvier it uses works perfectly
[15:40] <TorpedoSkyline> Hi all. I'm currently running Mac OS X 10.6 and I want to switch to Ubuntu 12.04 as my primary OS. However, I'm going to keep OS X on another partition for when I need to sync some of my iOS devices (iPad 3 and iPod 4, which aren't compatible with libimobiledevice). I have a 1.5TB external hard drive that I need to be able to read and write to from both Mac and Ubuntu, so I'm wondering what filesystem to use. I'd rather not use FAT32 because of th
[15:40] <TorpedoSkyline>  limitations. What would you guys suggest?
[15:40] <ikonia> dury: what's the issue ?
[15:40] <omegax00> is there a way I can get access to there mouse driver?
[15:40] <ikonia> NewLappy: ask away, lets see what we can do
[15:40] <ikonia> omegax00: there is no need for a mouse driver
[15:41] <aristidesfl> Partition table entries are not in disk order <- is this important?
[15:41] <ikonia> omegax00: and to be hoenst, what XMBCUbuntu changes, I don't know, I'd suggest talking to their support resources
[15:41] <schnuffle2> TorpedoSkyline: Shrink your MAC partition MacOSX has to tools for that and then install Ubuntu beside
[15:41] <dury> ikonia: top panel and left disappeared
[15:41] <philinux> AdvoWork: see man apt-get
[15:41] <ikonia> dury: unity display stuff, I'm not really on top of to be honest
[15:41] <omegax00> it doesn't work with the normal Ubuntu either same issue
[15:41] <vexus> NewLappy: what are your problems i am using an uefi system since one year maybe i can help you
[15:41] <ikonia> dury: although someone else was having that exact same problem two days ago
[15:41] <omegax00> the Mouse moves extremly slow
[15:42] <ikonia> omegax00: it does work with the official ubuntu release.
[15:42] <TorpedoSkyline> schnuffle2, yes but I need read/write support on the external HD. What filesystem should I use for the external hard disk so I can read and write to it from both OSs?
[15:42] <omegax00> keyboard works fine
[15:42] <NewLappy> excellent, maybe between ikonia and vexus I can get a handle on this
[15:42] <ikonia> NewLappy: well, we can but try
[15:43] <optraz> i know .rpm and .deb is valid linux distribution package management syste, but what about .pkg or .ebuild?
[15:43] <recon69_lap> AdvoWork : cant really say, use man apt-get , the flag is probably -simulate , but the rpm -qa command, not sure what it does
[15:43] <omegax00> no it doesn't please don't call me a liar... I have tested this already and Ubuntu will not allow me to use my mouse correctly it installs a driver but its not working right for this mouse
[15:43] <schnuffle2> TorpedoSkyline: As far as I know osx uses hfs+ which should be at least readable under ubuntu
[15:43] <ikonia> omegax00: ubuntu does NOT install a driver for your mouse
[15:43] <omegax00> ok whatever
[15:43] <dury> ikonia: is there any source to solve it instead of installing again?
[15:43] <omegax00> I need a driver than
[15:44] <TorpedoSkyline> schnuffle2, I know but I need writable lol. =P Would HFS without journaling work?
[15:44] <AdvoWork> how come if i run wine "/home/user/.wine/drive_c/program files/adobe/whatever.exe in the terminal, it works fine, but if i make a launcher as an application it won't. If i do a launcher but use terminal it works again but then has a spare terminal which I dont need?
[15:44] <omegax00> the default software ubuntu uses is not working with my mouse
[15:44] <vexus> NewLappy, ikonia: the first prblem with uefi is that only one linux distro supports it nativly (Open Suse 12.1) and there are formating errors with gpt in windows and linux so it can be a hard way if you realy want to make a native uefi install
[15:44] <NewLappy> Well, as is my general practice when I get a new machine, I was going to start with a fresh install and dual boot Ubuntu, when I hit esc to get to bios options to take a look around they had a url in there for more info along with options for diagnostic tools and looking around I'm pretty sure this machine is using UEFI. this is the first machine I've ever used that didn't have standard bios. Am I correct in the UEFI is just the 'SYSTEM
[15:44] <NewLappy> ' partition at the beginning of the disk?
[15:44] <ikonia> dury: I'd have to investigate the problem properly
[15:44] <ikonia> dury: to be honest, without understanding the issue, I can't say with confidence.
[15:45] <NewLappy> vexus, what would be the other option if not a 'native' uefi install?
[15:45] <schnuffle2> TorpedoSkyline: Apparently it works readwrite as well. sometimes disks are readonly because they where not unmounted correctly a fsck.hfsplus /dev/yourdisk you correct that
[15:45] <dury> ikonia: I got the 12.04 lts cd... maybe booting that could do something
[15:46] <schnuffle2> s/you/should/
[15:46] <omegax00> very simple question and the answer obviously is not here you keep running around in circles like support rep common man I already told you the problem is actually quite simple to fix I just need to find out what mouse software Damn Small Linux uses they seem to have chosen a better option for a mouse support whatever you want to call it I call it a Drvier you call it whatever you want all I am saying is that the current software that
[15:46] <omegax00> my mouse!
[15:46] <ikonia> dury: that won't change your system config
[15:46] <dury> ikonia: well after booting and do something else I mean
[15:46] <ikonia> dury: if you boot the livecd and do "something" it may fix it sure.
[15:46] <vexus> if you wait a second on the windowsdisc ask to boot from hdd or cd the font changes that is the moment when uefi is aktivating bios emulationmode so you could use normal grub or something like that
[15:47] <sirriffsalot>  I'm looking at a tutorial with someone using xsynth dizzy.. or so he claims.. What is that program actually called? The graphical user interface that is
[15:47] <TorpedoSkyline> schnuffle2, is that new in 12.04? Because I always remember having to install packages like hfsprogs
[15:47] <schnuffle2> TorpedoSkyline: of course you need the hfsplus progs :)
[15:47] <TorpedoSkyline> lol =P
[15:48] <dury> ikonia: what to do after booting livecd, in your opinion?
[15:48] <vexus> NewLappy: if you only like to install ubuntu with any other os it is easy with 11.10 i had the problem that grub2 boots in circle with it self so i used grub-legacy but with 12.04 it works fine on my Lenovo Ideapad S205
[15:48] <TorpedoSkyline> schnuffle2, so I just sudo apt-get install hfsprogs and then it should work as a plug and play drive like in OS X?
[15:48] <ikonia> dury: I don't know without researching it
[15:49] <NewLappy> vexus, I haven't tried booting from a Windows disk yet....I booted once into G4L to make a backup incase I screw something up and then again into 12.04 CD (well, i've booted the Ubuntu cd twice)....and I don't see a /sys/firmware/efi directrory
[15:49] <TorpedoSkyline> schnuffle2, I just need something that I can get up and running quickly so everything works in my work environment.
[15:49] <ikonia> dury: I wouldn't like to guess without getting an idea of what the issue was
[15:49] <schnuffle2> TorpedoSkyline: I think so but haven't tried it
[15:49] <NewLappy> vexus, I guess my confusion comes from that I had originally planned to completely wipe and repartition the hard drive and then start installing fresh
[15:50] <NewLappy> can i still do that or what do I have to do different than I did in past
[15:50] <aristidesfl> how to list users in group?
[15:50] <TorpedoSkyline> schnuffle2, ok. I have it partitioned as exFAT right now and I remember that it was only read only, so… Well, I guess I'll give HFS+ a shot. Thanks!
[15:50] <vexus> NewLappy: i know that is a problem on ubuntu i used the 64+mac image to boot and it is not able to install normal efi with gpt and efipartion if you like to have that give suse a try or you have to do it with terminal and hands
[15:50] <dury> ikonia: all right, what would you do then?
[15:51] <schnuffle2> TorpedoSkyline: Good luck
[15:51] <omegax00> still no answers here
[15:51] <omegax00> :(
[15:51] <TorpedoSkyline> schnuffle2, thanks. I might need it. =P
[15:52] <omegax00> The new XBMCBuntu is Built on Ubuntu 12.04 Thought you guys would be able to fix this issue
[15:52] <vexus> NewLappy: now that is not confusing the efi support is realy bad at this moment maybe i try to make a working iso in the summer for ubuntu when i got the time and work done
[15:52] <schnuffle2> TorpedoSkyline: Can't you try if it works with a formatted USB stick?
[15:53] <TorpedoSkyline> schnuffle2, I probably will but I haven't downloaded Ubuntu yet. I'm on a low-bandwidth connection so I'm going to have to go to the library to download it. XD
[15:53] <sparky_> Hi, i'm having problems running a gameserver, the server is supposed to open in Terminal, but it opens in Text editor, and when I choose what application to open it in, Terminal is not an option! Please help :S
[15:53] <recon69_lap> omegax00: maybe if you got a paste bin with all the relevant info and posted a link people might try.
[15:53] <vexus> NewLappy: so what do you like to install Windows/Ubuntu Dualboot or only Ubuntu or what else?
[15:54] <NewLappy> vexus, I'll explain...will take a moment to type out :)
[15:54] <recon69_lap> sparky_: it's a server program, open a terminal and start the server from the command line
[15:54] <sparky_> How do I do that?
[15:55] <dury> ikonia: http://ubuntu.5.n6.nabble.com/Ubuntu-12-04-problem-top-panel-and-launch-pad-disappeared-after-compiz-configuration-td4484876.html
[15:55] <sparky_> recon69_lap,  how do I do that?
[15:55] <telepusik> recon69_lap: from official site, winXP, yes
[15:55] <ikonia> dury: I don't know without researching the problem
[15:56] <vexus> ikonia: are you just a fan or a canocical member?
[15:56] <ikonia> vexus: I don't work for canonical
[15:56] <recon69_lap> sparky_: hmm, somthing like "Accessories->Terminal Emulator " , a window opens that you can type in. you got that?
[15:57] <vexus> ikonia: do you know someone who works on ubuntu iso and bootloader stuff
[15:57] <sparky_> err.... i'm very very new to Ubuntu, so I don't really know x.x
[15:57] <NewLappy> vexus, how would I go about setting up similar to what I have done before, but possibly using uefi -- I had multiple partitions: the MBR of the drive pointed to my 'grub/boot partition' the menu.lst for that partition simply had chainloader to hand-off to other partitions. When installing an OS, install bootloader to the partition and not the MBR....then, I had a partition for Windows, a partition for Ubuntu, another Ubuntu install on a
[15:57] <NewLappy>  different partition, and a couple of other partitions for experimenting and installing different OSs as well as a big data partition for storing stuff.....I also am able to boot an iso off of the data partition (although for that I have to chainload through a chainloaded grub2 bootloader (like the one on my main Ubuntu partition)
[15:57] <sparky_> I have a normal Terminal I know, (CTRL^ALT^T)
[15:58] <NewLappy> vexus, I'm thinking that somehow the UEFI stuff would be on a partition that would replace the former grub/boot partition
[15:58] <taixzo> somebody else trying to install to a EFI system too?
[15:59] <AdvoWork> how come if i run wine "/home/user/.wine/drive_c/program files/adobe/whatever.exe in the terminal, it works fine, but if i make a launcher as an application it won't. If i do a launcher but use terminal it works again but then has a spare terminal which I dont need?
[15:59] <sparky_> recon69_lap, is there a command I can type in the normal terminal that will start to run the server? The server is basically just this:#!/bin/sh
[15:59] <sparky_> ./server.sh -n"\f9Sparky's Gema Server" -o"\f5Welcome to Sparky's Server! Don't kill in gema :)" -c10 -xpassword -f5190 -Pkbfspw -mcUrD
[15:59] <NewLappy> taixzo, I wasn't planning on it...in fact i didn't even know there was such a thing untill my new laptop arrived yesterday.. but now I guess I don't have a choice :S
[15:59] <recon69_lap> sparky_: here, this looks nifty http://www.thelinuxgeeks.info/how-to-open-terminal-here-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[16:00] <aristidesfl> cmr how can I fix this error I get every now and then? http://hastebin.com/digihareyo
[16:00] <NewLappy> taixzo, well, I guess I could just use it the way it came :S
[16:01] <sparky_> err, recon69_lap, how is that supposed to help >.> I can open a terminal, but I can't get my server to start in terminal
[16:01] <taixzo> NewLappy: I'm stuck there, it insists on booting into Windows
[16:02] <recon69_lap> sparky_:  just execute the correct server program from the command line, the cursor should stop working and the server will run in that terminal window till you stop it or close the window
[16:02] <sparky_> Ok i'll try
[16:02] <recon69_lap> sparky_: server programs do not have a GUI, so you see nothing
[16:02] <sparky_> I *think* I know what you mean
[16:02] <sparky_> Yes I know
[16:02] <sparky_> But the server I run should open In Terminal
[16:03] <sparky_> It will show the progress of it
[16:03] <NewLappy> taixzo, I'm seriously contemplating just running it stock and doing Ubuntu from VirtualBox but I really don't want to do that
[16:03] <sparky_> recon69_lap, search "How to make a assaultcube server" And look what the server looks like, its windows but it still looks the same
[16:04] <recon69_lap> sparky_: so whats the result with you run the server program in a terminal window, it should say something, like "Loading Server Vx.xx" or "error"
[16:04] <vexus> NewLappy taixzo : yeah normaly with bios you use ms-dos table und mbr and so on, with efi in multiboot you have to use gpt tables and the first partion have to be an 100-300 mb fat32 partion with the 0xEF flag there every bootable system have to place a part of the bootloader to handle it to the right partion from the os you like to start that is the base, but the problem at this moment is that only opensuse 12.1 is able to make this realy how
[16:04] <sparky_> It opens in text editor lol
[16:04] <ceti331> in ubuntu-classic : is it possible to acess panel configuration (add/remove panel items & panels;
[16:04] <ceti331> i can't seem to get that from right clicks, and can't find any menu option
[16:05] <taixzo> vexus: so is there a way to get this working without repartitioning the drive?
[16:05] <recon69_lap> sparky_: have you made the server file executable?
[16:05] <kosher> hey
[16:05] <recon69_lap> sparky_: ls -l <filename>
[16:06] <sparky_> How do I make the server file executable?
[16:06] <vexus> NewLappy taixzo: sry but i have to go for lunch for about 2-3h maybe you are there then i like to help you two but there is no web in train
[16:06] <noxcode> Was wondering how I could make my ubuntu desktop have a black theme and spin around like this with all the desktops. Looks bad ass cool
[16:06] <sparky_> Type ls -1 <filename> in terminal?
[16:06] <recon69_lap> sparky_: chmod +x filename.bin
[16:06] <sparky_> Do I type it in the Terminal?
[16:06] <angs> what package/firmware do I need to install for rt2870 chipset on ubuntu 12.04 desktop?
[16:07] <vexus> taixzo: maybe it depends on what you like to use
[16:07] <noxcode> want to make my Ubuntu look and do this stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WnaZL3ARN0
[16:07] <noxcode> is it possible?
[16:07] <recon69_lap> sparky_: yes :) and it ls -L
[16:07] <aristidesfl> cmr how can I fix this error I get every now and then? http://hastebin.com/digihareyo
[16:07] <sparky_> lol you are telling me two different things here
[16:07] <taixzo> vexus: mainly Ubuntu, I just use Windows for flight sim
[16:07] <sparky_> chmod +x filename.bin
[16:07] <aristidesfl> how can I fix this error I get every now and then? http://hastebin.com/digihareyo
[16:07] <sparky_> and ls -L
[16:07] <kosher> I install ubuntu 12.04 desktop from an iso that I put on USB, but after I install and reboot and remove the USB stick, it says error: hd0 cannot get C/H/S values.  I can boot to the iso if I put the usb back in and reboot.  If I type set, it says prefix=(hd0, msdos1) root=hd0,msdos1
[16:08] <vexus> taixzo: and how is your hdd actual formated?
[16:08] <compdoc> aristidesfl, theres nothing in the url you pasted
[16:08] <noxcode> kosher your fstab needs to be fixed prolly
[16:08] <kosher> anyone know how I can remove the old MBR?  I formatted all of the drives
[16:08] <recon69_lap> sparky_: ls = list files , ls -l = list long files, you can see if the file has the x flag set
[16:08] <ufrgs> Hello folks!
[16:08] <sparky_> Remember, i'm very new to Ubuntu x.x
[16:09] <kosher> noxcode: but I formatted and installed new using the ubuntu wizard, why wouldn't it create a clean stab with the right path?
[16:09] <aristidesfl> compdoc javascript disabled? try this one http://hastebin.com/raw/digihareyo
[16:09] <Arch> Hi guys, anyone know how Vidalia works?
[16:09] <recon69_lap> sparky_:  chmod +x <filename> will make a file executable
[16:09] <Gyges> Arch, i had a tor bridge
[16:09] <taixzo> vexus: GPT, with a fat32 'SYSTEM' partition, an NTFS 'OS' partiton (Windows), a ext4 Ubuntu partition and a NTFS "Recovery
[16:09] <taixzo> "partition
[16:09] <Arch> It's "Connected to the TOR network. but i can't access web anonymous. I just have firefox
[16:10] <vexus> kosher: i think you installed per default from the stick there is a problem with the bootable device the normal option should be the main hdd but at 12.04 it is the usbdrive so you have to plug it in to boot your pc
[16:10] <sparky_> "chmod: cannot access 'server_autogenerated.sh'L No such file or directory
[16:10] <dax> Arch: install the torbutton firefox extension, configure it, voila
[16:10] <ufrgs> It is showing an system error message here: "The application Classic Guest Session has closed unexpectedly". Could someone help me to fix it please?
[16:10] <sparky_> x.x
[16:10] <Arch> Dunno how to browse it's own browser.
[16:10] <sparky_> It is real lol
[16:10] <noxcode> kosher I had a problem not to far from what you are talking about. Turned out my fstab had some "weird" stuff in it from the automagic install.
[16:10] <sparky_> The file is real, but it is a hidden file in my "Home" folder, does that affect it?
[16:10] <Gyges> Arch, a solution is to set manually the socks proxy
[16:10] <Arch> Where can i download it dax?
[16:11] <kosher> vexus, it boots to live cd if I put the usb drive in after install
[16:11] <vexus> taixzo: it is possible to make ubuntu boot with that but you have to make it with lifecd terminal and chroot
[16:11] <ufrgs> ExecutablePath: /usr/lib/indicator-session/indicator-session-service
[16:11] <Gyges> dax, i think the torbutton stoped now ,there is a bundle
[16:11] <kosher> noxcode: what would I look for in the stab?
[16:11] <Arch> Can you guide me to do it Gyges?
[16:11] <dax> Arch: https://www.torproject.org/torbutton/ , see "expert install"
[16:11] <taixzo> vexus: I can do that - is there a guide somewhere?
[16:11] <angs> I am searching the package for ralink rt2870 chipset on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ but it does not show any output for "rt2870" or "rt2800" keywords. am I checking it on the wrong webpage?
[16:11] <Arch> aha
[16:11] <vexus> kosher: was it in while the installation?
[16:11] <ufrgs> Package: indicator-session 0.3.96-Oubuntu1
[16:11] <dax> Gyges: I don't recommend using software outside the repository when possible, so I don't recommend the browser bundle
[16:12] <kosher> vexus: yes, I had to since it's where the live cd is
[16:12] <ufrgs> ProblemType: Crash
[16:12] <ufrgs> I think the best would be post it somewhere, right?
[16:12] <kosher> vexus: are you saying I should remove the usb after boot?
[16:12] <kosher> then install?
[16:12] <noxcode> kosher well you should not see any ref to your USB key for one.
[16:12] <recon69_lap> sparky_: could very well be a problem, ls -al will show hidden files
[16:12] <sparky_> recon69_lap,  could I change the extension of my file to make it so in the right click menu, it will give me the option of "Run in terminal" ? Because atm it does not give that option
[16:13] <vexus> taixzo: maybe this could help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[16:13] <kosher> well the grub loader is definitely hosed
[16:13] <ufrgs> The thing is I cannot copy the text from the ErrorReport Window.
[16:13] <sparky_> The server is inside a hidden file.
[16:13] <kosher> boot-repair might clean it up
[16:13] <taixzo> vexus: thanks
[16:13] <ufrgs> Maybe using a log message view?
[16:13] <ufrgs> Could someone help me please?
[16:14] <vexus> NewLappy taixzo kosher:  ok bb for now
[16:14] <sparky_> recon69_lap,  ls -al shows the directory that my server file is inside, but not the server file itself.
[16:14] <ufrgs> When Ubuntu 13 will be launched?
[16:14] <recon69_lap> sparky_: well, go into the directory
[16:14] <noxcode> kosher I ended up just dong a GTP with a BBP (bios boot partition) for perfect alignment for my SSD. Wont use EFI/UEFI if you paid me though.
[16:14] <sparky_> I am
[16:15] <recon69_lap> sparky_: cd <dirname> , using tab complete is usefull
[16:15] <sparky_> dirname? what is that 0.0
[16:16] <Pecker> dirname = insert your directory name here
[16:16] <Gyges> Arch, you can set any application to go through a socks proxy at 127.0.0.1:9001 i believe
[16:16] <noxcode> [[ -d dirname ]]; then rm -R *.*
[16:16] <recon69_lap> sparky_: how can you be in a directory and see that directory in a ls command, you cannot!!!
[16:16] <jrdnn> ufrgs: 2013 04
[16:17] <recon69_lap> sparky_: what is this server, I'll read the instructions and get back to you
[16:17] <sparky_> Assaultcube server
[16:17] <sparky_> I am in the directory in a normal folder
[16:17] <Gyges> According to tor website "Users should be using Tor Browser Bundle, not installing Torbutton themselves."
[16:17] <ufrgs> jrdnn, whats that?
[16:18] <jrdnn> "< ufrgs> When Ubuntu 13 will be launched?"
[16:18] <ufrgs> jrdnn, man, loong time...
[16:19] <Asad2005> Can someone help my chanange font size in gwibber
[16:19] <Asad2005> Nothing in prefrences
[16:20] <recon69_lap> sparky_: type pwd , it will tell you what directory you are in
[16:20] <sparky_> I was in the directory in a normal folder
[16:20] <sparky_> Not in the terminal
[16:21] <sparky_> Sorry I misunderstood x.x
[16:21] <sparky_> Oh!
[16:21] <sparky_> I think I got it to work somehow! xd
[16:21] <sparky_> It gave me the option to run in terminal
[16:21] <sparky_> When I opened it
[16:21] <sparky_> :D
[16:21] <sparky_> Thanks recon69_lap  :3
[16:21] <kaya>  i was just login as guest user and tried to copy some files but after restarting  i don wanna see the files to guest user  need a help on this guys
[16:21] <recon69_lap> sparky_: also try "/usr/games/assaultcube-server" type it in the terminal window and hit enter
[16:22] <sparky_> ahk
[16:22] <esuave> so what can i do if my servers' inode is at 100%.. df -i shows me 100%
[16:22] <esuave> and the OS wont let me create any other files.
[16:22] <korbel> check permissions
[16:23] <Arch> I can't find express install there dax
[16:23] <sparky_> Thanks recon69_lap, it is working now, bye :)
[16:23] <recon69_lap> sparky_: good luck
[16:23] <Arch> Is there any better program that works like TOR?
[16:24] <dax> Arch: I said expert, not express
[16:24] <Arch> There's one file *.xpi
[16:25] <jrdnn> Arch: freenet, kind of
[16:26] <Gyges> Arch, Expert Install (Stable): Click to install from this website.
[16:26] <noxcode> Arch I do a bit of work on TOR. What do you want to use for. Just browsing? SSH ? piping DNS request ? Apps
[16:27] <Arch_> Right, i download the "torbutton-current.xpi"
[16:27] <noxcode> Arch there is alway the TBB. Dont need to install it. Can even put it on a USB.
[16:27] <Arch_> Then, what should i do with it?
[16:28] <noxcode> Just put it on your desktop and click on it. Will open up its own browser and you can surf etc.
[16:28] <Gyges> ( Arch .xpi is autoinstalled in firefox )
[16:30] <kaya>  i was just login as guest user and tried to copy some files but after restarting  i don wanna see the files to guest user  need a help on this guys
[16:30] <Arch_> aha; so i must try TOR now, wait
[16:30] <kaya>  i was just login as guest user and tried to copy some files but after restarting  i don wanna see the files to guest user  need a help on this guys
[16:30] <noxcode> Arch can go into #tor-dev and ask them. rrandom, ioerror and others are quite active devs. There are is also I2P. If you want to go into the Silk Road you will need TOR
[16:30] <quesada> playing any youtube video fullscreen 1920x1200 with nouveau crashes x. I can see my mouse, but nothing happens
[16:30] <quesada> is this a known bug?
[16:31] <Arch_> I can't open anything yet
[16:31] <rhel> Hi
[16:31] <quesada> the exact same hardware with sabayon and nouveau works fine
[16:31] <rhel> One question, I installed ubuntu.
[16:31] <rhel> I've never used Unity before, and I doubt if, for my system, 2D is better than 2D
[16:31] <rhel> *2D is better than 3
[16:31] <rhel> D
[16:32] <ikonia> rhel: better in what terms
[16:32] <rhel> so, I have a Nvidia 9300M GS, is this a good card for 3D?
[16:32] <ikonia> rhel: if you've got a supported 3d accelerated card, you should be able to use 3D without issue
[16:32] <noxcode> rhel if you dont like 2D or Unity and HATE Gnome3 there is always this www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WnaZL3ARN0
[16:32] <rhel> I use 3D "well", but sometimes, when I open the dash, it's slower than if i don't open the dash
[16:33] <rhel> no noxcode, thanks, but i love Unity, just that I don't know if 2D is better than 3D for me
[16:33] <rhel> and I think that in 12.10, Canonical won't support Unity 2D
[16:33] <ikonia> noxcode: please think about what you are suggesting, there is no need for any of that, the xubuntu-desktop package and xfce-desktop package will install xfce without the need for anything in that video
[16:34] <noxcode> ikonia can xubuntu do all that stuff in that video too? Maybe Ill install it then.
[16:35] <rhel> noxcode, i have also installed Xubuntu, customized as GNOME 2, and it's so cute
[16:35] <rhel> but I preffer Unity :-)
[16:36] <ikonia> noxcode: yes,
[16:36] <recon69_lap> telepusik: you can use "md5sum <nameofISOfile>" and check that it downloaded correctly by comparing it to the md5 value on the download page
[16:36] <rhel> but I think that in my PC it's a litte buggy
[16:36] <noxcode> ikonia cool might give it a try.
[16:36] <jiffe98> anyone know how I get mysql-proxy to create mysqld.sock files that are world accessible ?
[16:36] <rhel> noxcode, I didn't saw this video, but my XFCE is = that GNOME 2
[16:36] <jiffe98> I can connect if I am root but no one else
[16:37] <jiffe98> it seems to create 'srwxr-xr-x  1 root root   0 Jul  3 10:30 mysqld.sock'
[16:37] <noxcode> rhel yeah he seems to make a point of not using Gnome at all but it looks like the old Gnome2 with a bunch of really cool eye candy.
[16:37] <jiffe98> looking at another server running mysql-proxy I see 'srwxrwxrwx 1 root root    0 2012-06-25 11:29 mysqld.sock' but I'm not seeing any configuration differences
[16:38] <strk> The following packages have unmet dependencies: libboost-python1.42-dev : Depends: python-dev but it is not going to be installed
[16:38] <rhel> noxcode, i don't like the default XFCE in Xubuntu 12.04, but it's fully custumizable ^^
[16:38] <strk>  python-dev : Depends: python (= 2.6.6-2ubuntu1) but 2.6.6-2ubuntu2 is to be installed
[16:40] <peggys_mouse> when you run a live version of Ubuntu, where does it create it's file system? in RAM?
[16:40] <rhel> peggys_mouse, I supuse it so
[16:41] <rhel> it copies the DVD/CD data to RAM, and runs it from the RAM (I think)
[16:41] <peggys_mouse> rhel: so editing any of the files, ie at /etc should make no difference when you reboot?
[16:42] <jrdnn> peggys_mouse: Correct
[16:42] <genii-around> peggys_mouse: Yes, exactly.
[16:42] <peggys_mouse> damn....
[16:42] <IdleOne> peggys_mouse: correct, you can edit all the files you like and when you reboot it will be back at default
[16:42] <dury> ikonia: how can I lanch terminal.... I only have the cube feature :-(
[16:43] <ikonia> dury: I'm really sorry, but as I've said, I can't do anything to help you until I've researched the problem
[16:44] <recon69_lap> dury: thats so basic it's hard to describe :)
[16:44] <IdleOne> peggys_mouse: unless you make a live USB with persistence
[16:44] <IdleOne> !usb | peggys_mouse
[16:44] <dury> ikonia: how long will it take you that
[16:45] <dury> recon69_lap: what you mean
[16:45] <tx_pelli> can someone help me write to a HFS+ journaled external drive.
[16:45] <kosher> how do I purge out the MBR for grub to boot from ubuntu on sad?
[16:45] <peggys_mouse> i had an upgrade fail part way through yesterday. i was told to boot to a live disk and continue the upgrade from there. i did but didn't realize i needed to chroot. i edited /etc/apt/sourses.list and ran apt-get update/upgrade. from what everyone is saying, this should have no effect but i can't even boot off the USB now.
[16:45] <recon69_lap> dury: do you know what a terminal is, can you open one and use it?
[16:46] <dury> recon69_lap: of course I know what the terminal is.... but you don't know my problem
[16:47] <tx_pelli> I no longer have access to OSX to disable journaling
[16:47] <recon69_lap> dury: true, but "how can I lanch terminal.... I only have the cube feature" made me wonder
[16:47] <IdleOne> recon69_lap: if ikonia said he needs to research it is safe to assume the issue is more complex then simply opening a terminal
[16:48] <tx_pelli> but don't want to format the drive, just be able to add to it.
[16:49] <IdleOne> tx_pelli: try #OSX or check with /msg alis list *searchterm* for the appropriate channel
[16:49] <dury> recon69_lap: in 12.04 LTS unity disappeared after configuring compiz... not top panel even left one
[16:49] <heoa> http://ubuntu.mirror.cambrium.nl/ubuntu//pool/universe/m/mod-proxy-html/libapache2-mod-proxy-html_3.0.1-1.1_i386.deb <-- could someone help me to install this pgk?
[16:49] <peggys_mouse> anyone know what I might try if the USB install freezes on the opening purple screen after a minute?
[16:50] <peggys_mouse> (the same hardware was running 11.10 until recently)
[16:50] <heoa> I did "$ sudo dpkg -i *.deb" but I am getting iU in logs which means unpacked but not installed.
[16:50] <recon69_lap> dury: I know, one of the reasons i use xubuntu
[16:51] <IdleOne> heoa: sudo apt-get -f install
[16:51] <magpie> im running xubuntu 12.04, does anyone know why smplayer freezes during play?
[16:51] <IdleOne> heoa: that will try to fix/finish installing any packages that need to be.
[16:51] <dury> recon69_lap: do you know how to lanch it please
[16:52] <guest-6EojNY> hello
[16:52] <tx_pelli> Idle0ne: my question was an ubuntu question
[16:52] <guest-6EojNY> hello
[16:53] <magpie> im running xubuntu 12.04, does anyone know why smplayer freezes during play?
[16:53] <guest-6EojNY> hello
[16:53] <IdleOne> tx_pelli: sorry, seemed to be an OSX one.
[16:53] <recon69_lap> dury: http://www.thelinuxgeeks.info/how-to-open-terminal-here-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[16:53] <gitesh> Hi
[16:53] <Asad2005> Can someone help my chanange font size in gwibber
[16:53] <gitesh> I wanna install Ubuntu on my pc alognwith windows7.
[16:53] <tx_pelli> Idle0ne: no worries, I should've put everything in one line
[16:54] <rhel> Can somebody recommend me a perfect PC for running Ubuntu + Unity 3D?
[16:54] <heoa> IdleOne: rc  libapache2-mod-proxy-html:i386         3.0.1-1.1                               Apache2 filter module for HTML links rewriting
[16:54] <magpie> does anyone know why SMPLAYER freezes when playing a video?
[16:54] <rhel> And it can't be System76, because they don't sale to Spain, and it haven't spanish keyboard :_
[16:54] <heoa> IdleOne: which means it did not complete, apt-get sucks.
[16:55] <heoa> (I need to do the manual install remove everything I got from apt-get)
[16:55] <IdleOne> !hcl | rhel
[16:56] <tx_pelli> I used a Mac and my external was set up as a Time Machine Backup (HFS+,journaled). My Mac is toast and I need to figure out a way to write to the external drive. Can anyone help?
[16:56] <genii-around> !laptop
[16:57] <i7c> gitesh: what is your question?
[16:57] <tim_> Hi, guys I was wondering if anyone could help me with getting a critx clint installed
[16:58] <kosher> hey
[16:58] <tim_> Sorry was booted out, was wondering if I could get help installed critx client on here
[16:58] <kosher> why do I get an error when I do grub:>  find /boot/grub/stage1    File not found
[16:59] <kosher> how do I where to install grub??
[17:00] <Chub4Cherub> t
[17:01] <dury> recon69_lap: solve the problem
[17:02] <rhel> well, I found a perfect laptop, but I can't buy it now
[17:02] <glitsj16> tx_pelli: looks like you can try a force option in your hfsplus mount command https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/49052/comments/9 ..
[17:02] <dury> ikonia: back to unity success
[17:03] <recon69_lap> dury: :)
[17:03] <dury> ikonia: Ctrl+Alt+t open terminal
[17:04] <dury> ikonia: then in terminal typed " unity --replace" without brakets :-)
[17:05] <KeyboardMonkey> Hey guys I know this isn't the right place but i am having little trouble with compat wireless patch on ubuntu12.04, I tried to connect to Aircrack
[17:05] <KeyboardMonkey> but it said i need to register with nickserv
[17:05] <KeyboardMonkey> or something like that
[17:05] <tim_> Hi guys need to know how to install critx client on here. have not been able to figure it out
[17:06] <recon69_lap>  /help
[17:09] <recon69_lap> KeyboardMonkey: nickserv? it's part of IRC, you can register your user name here with nickserv, some rooms require that you register you username
[17:09] <Pici> !register | KeyboardMonkey
[17:09] <rhel> brbr
[17:11] <ksinkar> hello all, I have  freshly installed ubuntu 12.04 i386 and I am unable to run ubuntu software center.
[17:11] <ksinkar> If I do $ sudo apt-get update I get the following error : the package list of status file could not be parsed or open
[17:12] <tx_pelli> glitsj16: thanks but that didn't work. I still get "error while copying to "diskname". destination is read only"
[17:12] <recon69_lap> ksinkar: do you have another packet manager open?
[17:13] <anthology> anyone know how to scroll user list up key f11 doesnt work?
[17:14] <pim_> Hello, I want to lock the screen using windows-key + L. I tried going to Keyboard, shortcuts and then setting it, but it doesn't work. Does anybody know how to do this?
[17:14] <rhel> Re
[17:14] <rhel> i'm now using gnome-panel...
[17:14] <rhel> I think I preffer Unity :P
[17:15] <artao> hai. reading slashdot. ... just wanna say, if Cannonical starts required me to insall a key to "get the full benefit of [my] operating system", I am totally dumping ubuntu . thx
[17:15] <IdleOne> !ot | artao
[17:15] <ubuntu_problem> After upgrading to 12.04, printers that I add via the GUI disappear after a reboot or two. Is this a known problem?
[17:15] <artao> fine
[17:15] <dax> artao: might I suggest not purchasing hardware that uses Secure Boot, then?
[17:16] <artao> fair nuf
[17:16] <artao> that's all
[17:16] <artao> heat wave might have me a bit irritable. i'll shut up now.
[17:16]  * artao goes and sits in a corner silently
[17:16] <telepusik> lol
[17:17] <tiger> hey peoples i need help with  xserver
[17:17] <glitsj16> tx_pelli: i have no personal experience with hfsplus, but the bug report also has a link to source code from the developer that is recent (#36) .. seems like your only option i'm afraid
[17:17] <recon69_lap> telepusik: you mamage to check the md5sum of your ISO file?
[17:17] <ksinkar> recon69_lap: no
[17:17] <tiger> i custmize ubuntu miit remix with ubuntu builder..but now gui
[17:17] <tiger> plzzzzzzzzzzzzzz help meeee
[17:17] <klmlkdd> Hi
[17:18] <tiger> any expert here
[17:18] <tiger> ?
[17:18] <klmlkdd> Is there a way to wifi tether thats no ad-hoc
[17:18] <jrdnn> tiger: !ask
[17:18] <ksinkar> recon69_lap: it is fresh installation
[17:18] <telepusik> recon69_lap: i already installed the win7 and have 4 partitions
[17:18] <tiger> i custmize ubuntu mini remix os with ubuntu builder but there not gui
[17:18] <telepusik> recon69_lap: reading guide how to install ubuntu on it
[17:18] <tiger> how to install gui
[17:18] <jrdnn> tiger: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[17:18] <klmlkdd> creating an AP without adhoc mode
[17:19] <tiger> i did that
[17:19] <tiger> but not desktop
[17:19] <tiger> i also did gnome-envirment
[17:19] <tiger> and also lightdm
[17:19] <tiger> and also xserver-xrog
[17:19] <tiger> my last hope is here
[17:19] <ksinkar> recon69_lap: is there any way to find out if any other instance of package manager is open
[17:19] <kosher> how do I find out which drive boot is mounted from?
[17:19] <telepusik> recon69_lap: i can't understand why  do i cant install it from liveusb, i read some info and ppl say that that's cuz of bad usb flash
[17:19] <kosher> I have a /boot partition
[17:20] <ksinkar> recon69_lap: using ps -ef , but what do i grep for?
[17:20] <kosher> but I need to find out which drive it's from
[17:20] <telepusik> recon69_lap: but i just installed win7 from that usb so...
[17:20] <telepusik> recon69_lap, magic
[17:20] <klmlkdd> I tried to change it to Infraestructure and AP doesn't appear
[17:20] <lord-bugs> hola
[17:20] <recon69_lap> ksinkar: not sure, but you could try "sudo apt-get -clean" and see what happens
[17:21] <nannes> recon69_lap: without '-'
[17:21] <nannes> sudo apt-get clean
[17:21] <klmlkdd> #android
[17:23] <recon69_lap> well, in the good old days people used to tell you what happened :) helps catch those little mistakes
[17:24] <lord-bugs> exit
[17:24] <lord-bugs> leave
[17:24] <recon69_lap> telepusik magic?
[17:24] <jrdnn> lord-bugs: /part
[17:25] <lord-bugs> weebchat commands =/
[17:25] <nannes> recon69_lap: eheh..true
[17:27] <werxxx> I cannot to update my Ubuntu 11.04
[17:28] <nannes> werxxx: Just reinstall the new version over the actual one
[17:28] <tx_pelli> how do I change permissions to an external USB HD?
[17:28] <nannes> werxxx: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125600/update-11-04-to-12-04-with-livecd
[17:29] <werxxx> I have no CD-rom
[17:29] <Benkinooby> hi, i use ubuntu 10.04. evince takes several seconds to display a page.  it displays "Loading..." while loading the page. it's very disturbing. has anyone similar experiences?
[17:29] <nannes> !usb | werxxx
[17:31] <nannes> Benkinooby: It does happen when you're opening a really "fat" pdf file.... Or maybe, if you have too less free RAM
[17:32] <nannes> werxxx: Anyway, **if you read that ******* link**, you'll find out that doing a fresh install would be much better
[17:32] <SkippersBoss> tx_pelli,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[17:34] <kyle__> Finally got my rasberry-pi ordered.  Woot!
[17:34] <kyle__> Any inchannel folks who've put ubuntu on one yet?
[17:36] <klmlkdd> creating an AP without adhoc mode??????
[17:36] <heoa> How can I update the source of apt-egt?
[17:36] <heoa> err apt-get
[17:36] <heoa> just "$ sudo apt-get update"?
[17:36] <Priyanthaa|AFK> edditing /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:37] <Priyanthaa|AFK> and then 'apt-get update'
[17:37] <Benkinooby> nannes, ok, thank you
[17:37] <heoa> http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/quantal/i386/libapache2-mod-proxy-html/download <-- I want to get this file from apt-get but it is offering old version
[17:37] <IdleOne> kyle__: that is off topic for this channel, you may want to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss
[17:37] <tx_pelli> SkippersBoss: thanks but the drive is already mounted, just can't write to it.
[17:37] <kyle__> klmlkdd: Not all cards' drivers support making an AP.  Could be your issue.  Look it up
[17:38] <klmlkdd> my cad support's it
[17:38] <kyle__> IdleOne: True. Sorry.  Just jazzed about getting it :)
[17:38] <klmlkdd> it support Ad-hoc
[17:38] <kyle__> klmlkdd: Driver needs to, not card.  Technically _all_ 802.11 cards support being an AP, it's a matter of if the driver supports it.
[17:38] <recon69_lap> heoa: you probably better off doing a manual install of your preferred version then.
[17:38] <SkippersBoss> tx_pelli, you have to alter the mount.. command in fstab to you as user has write access :-)
[17:39] <GeekAdmin> hi. How do you encrypt Ubuntu 12.04?  I think I remember in 10.04 it asked at installation if you wanted to encrypt.
[17:39] <klmlkdd> kyle__: I'm using ath9 driver
[17:39] <glitsj16> Benkinooby: have you tried epdfview yet? always had the impression that was more responsive than evince (but that's just an .. impression)
[17:39] <heoa> recon69_lap: how? I have tried "$ sudo dpkg -i *.deb" but I get all the time errs
[17:40] <kyle__> klmlkdd: You're sure you're not using the NDIS driver right?
[17:40] <klmlkdd> kyle__: sure
[17:40] <kyle__> klmlkdd: I actually had a _hell_ of a lot of problems when I used the ath9 driver, but some of them were due to HP not admitting the one on my laptop had fried itself.
[17:41] <kyle__> klmlkdd: So IIRC, you don't set it to ad-hoc to create an AP, you set it to master mode.  Last time I did this it was with iwconfig, but the theory should be the same.
[17:42] <klmlkdd> I tried Adhoc mode and works fine
[17:42] <Benkinooby> glitsj16, i am in the evince channel on irc.gnome.org right now and having a discussion about evince's performance. it seems that the underlying library, called poppler is the responsible for performance. since most of the pdf viewser use poppler the differences in performance will only be marginal. i tried adobe pdf read wich performs a lot better. right now i am informing my self a bit about poppler and stuff on the evince channel. thank
[17:42] <Benkinooby> you for your input though
[17:42] <deper29> I am having a sound issue in 10.04 and I have no clue what the problem could be. If I use the headphone port on my computer I don't get any sound out of it at all. Could someone help?
[17:43] <tx_pelli> SkippersBoss: what is the command? :-)
[17:43] <glitsj16> Benkinooby: likewise :)
[17:43] <klmlkdd> master mode worked for me using "Fake AP" from aircrack-ng suite
[17:43] <deper29> I've played with the different outputs in my sound preferences, but can't seem to get anything at all still
[17:43] <klmlkdd> but networkmanager fails doing tat
[17:44] <recon69_lap> heoa: manual install, go download the version you want, unzip it, read the install instructions. I generally build from source though, probably quite a bit of messing around :)
[17:44] <Benkinooby> glitsj16, likewise?
[17:44] <kyle__> klmlkdd: I'm not sure networkmanager is up for the task.  I personally lothe NM, so I'm not the best person to ask about it ;)  Still, are you doing this through the GUI or CLI?
[17:44] <rhel> hi
[17:44] <zein> hello everyone
[17:45] <i7c> deper29: you played with pulseaudio or alsamixer or both?
[17:45] <Benkinooby> glitsj16, english is not my native language (that also causes grammer mistakes that may cause eye-cancer)
[17:45] <glitsj16> Benkinooby: that was understandle for 'thank you also for pointing to the underlying libpoppler issues, wasn't aware of that'
[17:45] <rigel> i have "command > filename.txt &" but that doesnt seem to be working
[17:45] <Benkinooby> glitsj16, oh, ok ... your welcome :)
[17:45] <glitsj16> Benkinooby: all cool :)
[17:45] <deper29> i7c, I have not played with pulseaudio at all, nor do I have any clue how to. I have played with alsa mixer, and it seems nothing is muted in there
[17:45] <rigel> and i need to both redirect stdout and spawn the process
[17:45] <jrdnn> zein: Hi
[17:45] <klmlkdd> kyle__:  using airbase-ng -e honeypot -c 12 -w aabbccddee mon0 command but My device cannot connect it says "Obtaining IP"
[17:46] <zein> What's the easiest way to get my ubuntu 12.04 laptop to display on an external HD monitor?  I was confused by the fact that it didn't work as plug and play.
[17:46] <kyle__> klmlkdd: by device, you mean the one you're running as an AP, or the one you're connecting to the AP?
[17:46] <klmlkdd> the one i'm connecting to the ap
[17:47] <i7c> deper29: sounds like you have to select the right port in pulseaudio. install the package pavucontrol to do so
[17:47] <klmlkdd> maybe because dhcp
[17:47] <kyle__> klmlkdd: And are you running dnsmasq or isc-dhcp-server on the system you're running as an AP?  It's kindof necessary if you want it to assing IP addresses.
[17:47]  * kyle__ nods
[17:48] <klmlkdd> kyle__: no :(
[17:48] <deper29> i7c, okay, I just installed that and opened it. Not sure what to do in there though. It looks very similar to my sound preferences.
[17:49] <klmlkdd> i tried with dhcp-server but it faile
[17:49] <Rudeboy> Does anyone know how to add a bottom image border, grass for instance?
[17:49] <heoa> recon69_lap: sorry there is no zip -file but deb -file: http://askubuntu.com/questions/158909/how-to-patch-apache-mod-proxy-3-0-1-with-3-0-1-1-1-in-12-04
[17:49] <zein> What's the easiest way to get my ubuntu 12.04 laptop to display on an external HD monitor?  I was confused by the fact that it didn't work as plug and play.
[17:49] <kyle__> klmlkdd: You should be able to manually assign an adress in the same range on the client, with the AP as the gateway, to test.  dhcp-servers are pretty simple to setup, but there can be pitfalls.  If you set one up, make sure it's listenning on all network interfaces, or on the right one.
[17:49] <pim_> I found how to do it: create a custom shortcut and make it run gnome-screensaver-command -l then bind this shortcut to e.g ctrl+L
[17:49] <i7c> deper29: check the tab "output devices".  you might select the _port_ of your output device
[17:50] <heoa> recon69_lap: and no install instructions, I supposed it would work just with `$ sudo dpkg -i *.deb` but no.
[17:50] <Guest29895> it was plug and play 4 me
[17:50] <kyle__> klmlkdd: ISC-dhcp-server (the standard one), will only accept requests on the network-interface who's ip matches the range it's serving, so set it to listen on all interfaces is usually safe.
[17:50] <qwebirc98873> please tell me best encrypted software for ubuntu
[17:51] <Benkinooby> glitsj16, xpdf is considerably faster but if i understand correctly, poppler is an offspring of the xpdf code which is deployed by xpdf...
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> qwebirc98873  define "best"
[17:51] <deper29> i7c, in there I see internal audio(which is what I think I want, but that doesn't seem to work), my PCI sound card, and my USB speakers. If it's any help, if I'm in Windows 7 I have to choose realtek speakers to get the sound working on the headphoens
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> qwebirc98873  "best" depends on how skilled you are and what you want to achieve
[17:52] <klmlkdd> kyle__: how can i chec if isc-dhcp-server are properly configured ?
[17:53] <i7c> deper29: mhm i guess you selected 'headphones' as port for internal audio then? if so check the tab "playback". if some software is playing sound you can see it there and select the output device for each software
[17:53] <qwebirc98873> :monkeydust:1)easy of use 2)good features 3)program should be secure and effective
[17:53] <kyle__> klmlkdd: The easiest way is to start it in one window (service isc-dhcp-server), and watch /var/log/syslog for it's messages in another (tail -f /var/log/syslog|grep -i dhcp).
[17:54] <kyle__> klmlkdd: It's pretty good about telling you what it doesn't like.  If it says something that you don't understand, and google dosn't answer for you, pastebin the errors :)
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> qwebirc98873  type !best for instructions
[17:54] <recon69_lap> heoa: sry, having dinner, but my solution way to complicated to do quickly
[17:54] <deper29> i7c, this is what I have http://imgur.com/lMNWM
[17:54] <glitsj16> Benkinooby: i happen to be lucky enough to limit my contact with pdf manipulation of any kind .. epdfview covers all my needs .. thanks for the input though, i do have friends who need a more professional pdf experience under linux .. fully opensource is the only future (i'll stop the politics here lol)
[17:55] <klmlkdd> kyle__: :facepalm:   Not configured to listen on any interfaces!
[17:56] <thomaspr> kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath5k/ath5k.ko
[17:56] <thomaspr> kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k.ko
[17:56] <i7c> deper29: mhm maybe your headphone output is one of the AUX outputs?
[17:56] <thomaspr> Is that what Natty wants ???
[17:56] <kyle__> klmlkdd: Like I said, it's good about telling you what it doesn't like.  Other than it's config file, make sure to look in /etc/defaults, I think there are some extra things configed in there.
[17:57] <i7c> deper29: start some music player and check in "playback" tab when you select the second device (envy24)
[17:57] <deper29> i7c, no, those are all outputs and inputs of my PCI sound card. I am plugging my headphones into the port on the case
[17:57] <i7c> deper29: mhm i see
[17:57] <deper29> i7c, yeah, that all outputs to my television
[17:58] <Praxi> hmm anyone running ubuntu 12.04 dual monitor? very odd behavior.  My menu's and notification icons are on the right monitor, if I have something full screened on the left monitor, then switch focus on the right, the left monitor window resizes itself to be about 1/2" from the top of the screen.
[17:58] <i7c> deper29: have you checked the configuration tab? are there any options for the internal device?
[17:58] <deper29> analog stereo duplex, analog stereo output, analog stereo input and off
[17:58] <i7c> Praxi: yes i use it with nvidia restricted drivers. works without issues
[17:59] <deper29> i7c, it is currently on stereo output
[17:59] <thomaspr> Wireless seems unstable. Could it be that Natty has taken two drivers mixed ?
[17:59] <Praxi> other than that seems fine, and I am running the nvidia restricted
[17:59] <thomaspr> kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath5k/ath5k.ko
[17:59] <thomaspr> kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k.ko
[17:59] <i7c> deper29: mhm try duplex
[17:59] <deper29> duplex does nothing, just did :P
[18:00] <klmlkdd> kyle__: I'll use this config http://paste.ubuntu.com/1073478/
[18:00] <raven> which tool is able to do color corrections via cmd line? i need to do a threshold to red
[18:00] <i7c> deper29: :(. i dont know if it is because of your older ubuntu version... my pavucontrol shows output ports for my internal device. i can choose between headphones and speakers
[18:01] <thomaspr> Some wireless specialists here ?
[18:01] <i7c> deper29: your normal output through that device works? with speakers?
[18:01] <klmlkdd> kyle__: dhcpd: Not configured to listen on any interfaces! again
[18:02] <kyle__> klmlkdd: I generally put authoratative in there, but looks ok.  What's the IP of the AP?
[18:02] <deper29> i7c, that would be awesome, but to make things complicated I never was able to successfully boot a newer version of ubuntu because I have a UEFI bios and am dual booting windows 7 and something doesn't like something else.
[18:02] <deper29> i7c, I never use the internal audio, I always use the turtle beach USB speakers
[18:02] <kyle__> klmlkdd: And look at /etc/defaults/isc-dhcp-server, there should be a line in there too.
[18:02] <klmlkdd> kyle__: it's another problem airbase-ng does not display the IP of the AP
[18:02] <aristidesfl> How can I fix this error I get every now and then? http://hastebin.com/raw/digihareyo
[18:03] <i7c> deper29: oh ok. but you selected the right output device in "playback" tab? you didn't mention this
[18:03] <linkproblem> Hi, anyone with some apache experience?
[18:03] <klmlkdd> at0       no wireless extensions.
[18:03] <deper29> i7c, yeah, I've tried every output device
[18:04] <deper29> i7c, if I use the USB speakers they work fine
[18:04] <klmlkdd> kyle__: ifconfig says at0       no wireless extensions.
[18:04] <kyle__> klmlkdd: You need to assing at0 an address in the range dhcp is serving.
[18:05] <i7c> deper29: ok. well i'm sorry but i think i dont know anything else to tell you. there is an #pulseaudio channel, maybe those guys know more.
[18:05] <i7c> linkproblem: what do you wanna know?
[18:05] <BluesKaj> kyle__, the word is assign :)
[18:05] <rhel> rehi
[18:05] <Miguelito> Hello - I was wondering why when I play video streams the people in the video turn light blue and if there is something I can do about that?
[18:06] <klmlkdd> kyle__: How can i do that?
[18:06] <deper29> i7c, okay, I'll give them a shot. thanks for your help thus far :)
[18:06] <linkproblem> i7c, I have problem with wordpress, links to new sites are created on site's navigation bar, but are leading to 404.
[18:06] <i7c> deper29: you're welcome.
[18:06] <kyle__> BluesKaj: No, it's a portmanteau of ass-kissing.  You flatter the interface enough until it self-assings the right address...
[18:06] <kyle__> Ahhem.
[18:06] <linkproblem> i7c, I thinks it's related to apache.
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> Miguelito  you have to enable or disable (i forget which) hardware accelleration, right click on the video
[18:07] <i7c> linkproblem: sorry i dont know that. try #httpd that's the apache channel
[18:07] <kyle__> klmlkdd: I would use ifconfig, but if it's a permenant/semi permenant setup, the network-manager screens.
[18:07] <linkproblem> i7c, thanks
[18:07] <BluesKaj> kyle__,  ahem the word is still assign despite your wordplay :)
[18:07] <kyle__> BluesKaj: Yea I know.
[18:07] <Miguelito> MonkeyDust, I just looked and it is enabled
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> Miguelito  try disabling it, see if it helps
[18:08] <Miguelito> MonkeyDust, 10-4 brb
[18:08] <mark_locklear>  Hey guys...I have a laptop that currently has Win7 and Fedora dual boot. I want to install Ubuntu 12.04 over the win7 partition...so it is dualbooted with Ubuntu and the exsisting fedora.
[18:08] <klmlkdd> kyle__: but networkmanager does not display at0 device
[18:08] <mark_locklear> When I start the installation on the 'Installation Type' screen I have the option to 'Install along side windows 7'...nope, don't want that. 'Replace Win7 with Ubuntu'...this sounds good, but when I choose that and 'continue' it tells me the entire disk with be used, which does not give me a warm fuzzy.
[18:09] <rigel> i do not understand why i am getting no ooutput from this script
[18:09] <rigel> http://pastebin.com/aNvta0ZN
[18:09] <mark_locklear> When I choose 'Something else' and 'continue' here is what I am seeing...http://pastie.org/4194394
[18:09] <rigel> any suggestions?
[18:09] <Benkinooby> !assing
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> mark_locklear  you can format to ext4 during installation
[18:10] <mark_locklear> MonkeyDust, have not tried...but what is your suggestion?
[18:10] <kyle__> klmlkdd: Then ifconfig it.  ifconfig at0 <whatever the adress is>
[18:10] <mark_locklear> afraid I will loose my fedora...
[18:11] <oCean> rigel: the hash-bing-bin-bash:  the script should start with #!/bin/bash
[18:11] <recon69_lap> mark_locklear: yes, it will use all the disk on a automated install. deleting all data on that drive/partition (not sure which)
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> mark_locklear  i think you're not being complete in what you say, start from the beginning
[18:11] <klmlkdd> kyle__: i did  ifconfig at0 up && ifconfig at0 192.168.2.129 netmask 255.255.255.128 &&route add -net 192.168.2.128 netmask 255.255.255.128 gw 192.168.2.129
[18:11] <rigel> oh dear god
[18:11] <Miguelito> MonkeyDust, that didnt help unless i have to close and reopen the browser, all the other colors seem  ok its just the people look like the blue guys from the commercials on tv
[18:11] <rigel> SORRY
[18:11] <oCean> np
[18:12] <recon69_lap> mark_locklear: do an manual/advanced install and you can set you own partitions
[18:12] <mark_locklear> MonkeyDust, OK...from the beginning...I currently have a dual boot setup of Windoze 7 and Fedora 14. Time to more away from Fedora, so I want to move on to Ubuntu 12.04. I don't use the windows partition so I would like to leave the fedora in place and replace windows with Ubuntu.
[18:12] <kyle__> klmlkdd: But wasn't your dhcp config using 192.168.0?
[18:12] <mark_locklear> MonkeyDust, When I start the installation on the 'Installation Type' screen I have the option to 'Install along side windows 7'...nope, don't want that. 'Replace Win7 with Ubuntu'...this sounds good, but when I choose that and 'continue' it tells me the entire disk with be used, which does not give me a warm fuzzy.
[18:12] <klmlkdd> kyle__: yep old config sorry
[18:12] <mark_locklear> MonkeyDust, I *think* the sda2&3 are the windows partitions. So if I want to install Ubuntu on top of windows (and not harm Fedora) should I choose/check sda3 to install to?
[18:13] <kyle__> klmlkdd: OK.
[18:13] <klmlkdd> i'll correct
[18:13] <lcc> can one easily install ubuntu on the _new_ chromebooks via usb?
[18:13] <mark_locklear> MonkeyDust, also here is complete boot script info http://pastie.org/4192699
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> mark_locklear  ok, rigth, i understand your concern, unfortunately i have no experience with a linux-linux dualboot, maybe someone can give advice
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> someone else*
[18:14] <mark_locklear> MonkeyDust, thanx...yes, this is what I am finding...its def an oddball
[18:14] <Zally666> Colinux in wine
[18:15] <glitsj16> Miguelito: have you seen http://askubuntu.com/questions/117127/flash-video-appears-blue/131040#131040 yet? that offers a fix without loosing HW acceleration .. worked perfect for me (especially if you have nvidia)
[18:15] <mkander_> I have installed ubuntu on a single drive, but now I want to add another disk and set up a sw raid 1 without reinstalling. Is that possible? If yes, how? ;) Thanks for any tips!
[18:15] <klmlkdd> kyle__: ok i did and ifconfig displays it
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> mark_locklear  boot the live session, delete the ntfs (windows) partition and install ubuntu on it -- backup fedora data first
[18:16] <klmlkdd> kyle__: :(
[18:16] <mark_locklear> MonkeyDust, thats probably what I will end up doing...sort fishing for a more straight forward way before I did it...
[18:16] <klmlkdd> another problem
[18:16] <klmlkdd> kyle__: Can't create PID file /var/run/dhcpd.pid: Permission denied
[18:17] <klmlkdd> i'm root
[18:17] <Miguelito> glitsj16, thanks! wow there is actually something about that lol - going there now and will let you know
[18:17] <kyle__> Um.
[18:18] <bob__> how is empathy supposed to work.  ?  Mine does nothing
[18:18] <kyle__> klmlkdd: Did you do a service isc-dhcp-server restart or just start?  Make sure it's stopped, then start again.  THis is odd.
[18:18] <glitsj16> Miguelito: i actually have hacked a script to be able to keep the 'blue face' effect .. very nice for some late-nite flipping
[18:19] <klmlkdd> kyle__: it's stopped
[18:20] <klmlkdd> kyle__: i have no dhcp3-server  package installed
[18:20] <kyle__> klmlkdd: ubuntu renamed it isc-dhcp-server
[18:20] <klmlkdd> kyle__: ah ok
[18:20] <Miguelito> glitsj16, i think i will try that ppa patch - is that what  you did
[18:20] <revol0xf> bob__ , how to you connect to a network, is it something other than NetworkManager.
[18:21] <glitsj16> Miguelito: easiest fix if you're on ubuntu 12.04 or 11.10 yes, i have that active one one machine
[18:21] <Miguelito> glitsj16, ok then bbs and will let you know how it went
[18:22] <klmlkdd> kyle__: old forum post are related to dhcp3-server
[18:22] <M1nerals> are there channel logs ?
[18:22] <glitsj16> Miguelito: good luck
[18:23] <xangua> !logs | M1nerals
[18:23] <M1nerals> thanks
[18:23] <M1nerals> is there a way to search these logs for a keyword ?
[18:23] <M1nerals> nvm
[18:24] <SolarisBoy> is it relatively safe to upgrade to 12.04 by now? im running intel hardware (no nvidia cards or anything), i would rather upgrade if at all possible safe as i have things configured as i'd like and not _alot_ of space for backups at the moment
[18:24] <torvald> Is there anything I can restart/reload for the touchpad-drivers to reload? Touchpad goes crazy, but it works after reboot.
[18:24] <Stark> Anyone know how to make a bootable volume from an ISO in Ubuntu?
[18:25] <Stark> unetbootin doesn't work
[18:25] <Stark> dd doesn't work
[18:25] <Stark> a Windows 7 VM with Microsoft's official software for creating Windows 7 boot disks, also doesn't work
[18:25] <Stark> Any other methods?
[18:25] <Miguelito> glitsj16, hmmmm do i need to restart my browser?
[18:25] <torvald> Stark: Then there might be something wrong with the ISO.
[18:25] <torvald> dd wont work alone.
[18:25] <torvald> unetbootin should work.
[18:26] <Stark> torvald: I've tried multiple ISOs and I'm quite certain there's nothing wrong with this one.
[18:26] <ki4ro> M1nerals: Just took a look at that website the ubottu suggested and it doesn't look too promising
[18:26] <Stark> torvald: Even though I haven't tested this one, even confirmed working ISOs are refusing to let me make a boot disk.
[18:26] <Stark> torvald: What should I be using in addition to dd?
[18:26] <tiger> people someone help mee plzz
[18:27] <torvald> MBR, bootloader etc.
[18:27] <tiger> third time i am in here
[18:27] <Gyges> Stark, maybe a pc problem with booting from that usb
[18:27] <BluesKaj> Stark, http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/install-linux-with-ease-using-unetbootin/
[18:27] <tiger> plzz help me for gui
[18:27] <werxxx> I can't updating my Natty Narwhall. I try it still one time.
[18:27] <Stark> Gyges: Same disk I used to install this installation of Ubuntu, as well as my previous Windows 7 boot disk
[18:27] <Gyges> oh,ok
[18:27] <Stark> BluesKaj: It's to install a Windows 7 partition
[18:27] <tiger> i rebuild ubuntu mini remix but i cant have gui
[18:27] <Stark> Gyges: Plus I've tried it with another disk
[18:27] <Stark> It's really freakish just how many ways this has not worked
[18:28] <Gyges> Stark, is it fat 16?
[18:28] <tiger> since ubuntu mini remix come with cli so how to install gui?
[18:28] <klmlkdd> kyle__: Can't create PID file /var/run/dhcpd.pid: No such file or directory.
[18:28] <Stark> Gyges: Not sure. I've formatted it many a time in many a way, though.
[18:28] <se7> salve a tutti
[18:28] <xangua> tiger: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop if you want Ubuntu esktop
[18:28] <BluesKaj> Stark, I use gparted live cd , usb sticks have probs with it
[18:28] <Stark> Gyges: Including NTFS, FAT (whichever FAT the Disk Utility does by default), and no partition scheme at all
[18:29] <Gyges> Stark, FAT32 should work, but FAT16 is safe
[18:29] <tiger> i will get gui in ubuntu mini from that?
[18:29] <se7> ci sono italiani?
[18:29] <Stark> Gyges: As in, FAT16 will *definitely* work?
[18:29] <Gyges> Stark, NTFS wont do
[18:29] <tiger> and i can continue custmization?
[18:29] <BluesKaj> !FAT16
[18:29] <se7> salve ci sono italiani?
[18:29] <Pici> !it | se7
[18:29] <Stark> Gyges: Although, DD formats it to UDF anyway
[18:30] <se7> ok grazie
[18:30] <Stark> Gyges: And a lot of things don't recognize the UDF at all, just see it as empty, e.g. Windows and GParted
[18:30] <Stark> Gyges: Ubuntu seems to recognize the UDF volume, though
[18:30] <Gyges> the bios is the question ?
[18:30] <sirriffsalot>  Anyone here with experience in phasex?:)
[18:31] <Gyges> i mean the bios only supports fat16 , ext2 and something else
[18:31] <Stark> Gyges: Not sure... it's a Dell XPS M1530 with BIOS revision 12
[18:31] <Gyges> i think
[18:31] <gabrielito> if I want to run 3 instances of freeradius on the same server do you suggest I install freeradius via aptitude or manually download and compile?
[18:31] <Miguelito> glitsj16, ok yes it did take a restart of the browser and yes it is now fixed so ty sir and thanks to all those here who help and suppoort this product!
[18:31] <Gyges> all the same
[18:31] <Gyges> ..
[18:32] <revol0xf> tiger, I am not that familiar with ubuntu mini but is it some kind of a bare minimal ubuntu installation?.
[18:32] <tiger> i install ubuntu mini there only cli envierment there no x srver
[18:33] <tiger> yes it is minimum pacakege installer
[18:33] <klmlkdd> qanyone of the irc
[18:33] <klmlkdd> How to solve Can't create PID file /var/run/dhcpd.pid: Permission denied ??
[18:34] <recon69_lap> kimlkdd : think that means it's already running
[18:34] <revol0xf> well then the first thing that you need for a GUI is the X server
[18:34] <tx_pelli> how come I can't just type 'sudo chmod -R 777 /media/1TB_' and have write access to an external drive?
[18:35] <Stark> So why won't dd work on its own?
[18:36] <revol0xf> later you can customize the GUI with your choice of window manager(like openbox) or desktop environment.
[18:36] <tiger> ok so i am installing ubuntu-desktop
[18:36] <tiger> i hope it will give me gui..if gui come then everything done
[18:37] <klmlkdd> kyle__: no ideas :(
[18:37] <recon69_lap> kimlkdd: also found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/isc-dhcp/+bug/974054
[18:38]  * anthology is using a GT-I9000 running Android 2.1-update1 (ECLAIR)
[18:39] <bikcmp> anthology: old!
[18:39] <imekaze> elo
[18:39] <imekaze> what do you say
[18:39] <calamari> hi. I have a friend on 10.04 lts, that wants to upgrade to 12.04 lts.. but the update manager is not showing that "new distro available" option at the top. Is a direct 10.04 -> 12.04 upgrade still an option? for example, if we just added the 12.04 repos to sources.list and apt-get update/upgrade, would that work?
[18:39] <anthology> ?
[18:40] <zykotick9> calamari: onice 12.04.1 is released the update will be available
[18:40] <glitsj16> tx_pelli: i guess for a similar reason why if you type 'bank put some more money in my account' it won't happen .. file permissions and filesystem support are separate worlds
[18:40] <xangua> calamari: you have to wait untill first revision 12.04.1 comes out; but if you want to upfgrade now use: gksu update-manager -d
[18:40] <EmilyS> Any suggestions for a no-pain webserver for plain ol' html?
[18:40] <calamari> xangua: okay thanks.. is there a potential problem with doing that?
[18:41] <genii-around> EmilyS: lighttpd is not bad
[18:41] <codemonk1y> looking for a way to write an iso image to usb, tried unetbootin and it does not execute the autorun file like the normal iso does
[18:41] <codemonk1y> its an iso image without a menu
[18:42] <tiger> i install ubuntu-desktop
[18:42] <tiger> but gui doesnot open
[18:42] <tiger> i am on cli,how to open gui?
[18:42] <codemonk1y> tiger: try startx
[18:42] <xangua> calamari: is juts: update-manager -d    ; well having backups or home in a separate partion is always good idea so it's up to you
[18:42] <tiger> nothing happend from startx
[18:42] <tiger> it said start x did not installed
[18:43] <codemonk1y> all one word
[18:43] <codemonk1y> startx
 every morning I wake up and click Dash Home and I'm like "yeah... I feel good about today"
[18:44] <tiger> it saying startx is not installed
[18:44] <NotAnExpert> Stark: 'dash home'?
[18:44] <tiger> plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz solve my problem
[18:44] <Stark> NotAnExpert: The best feature in Ubuntu
[18:44] <codemonk1y> any ideas of how, to run an iso file to usb, as to make the usb into a "cd" style boot
[18:44] <zykotick9> tiger: "sudo apt-get install xorg" then try again
[18:44] <codemonk1y> any ideas
[18:45] <tiger> can  install it from chroot console?
[18:45] <calamari> xangua: thanks.. they say when they have "show lts releases only" 12.04 still doesn't show up, even with -d
[18:45] <NotAnExpert> tiger: linux is not about finding someone to solve your problem, but rather about solving the problem yourself...others are generally very willing to help guide you and point you in the right direction :D
[18:45] <don-key> can anyone tell me how to troubleshoot a program i installed with crossover doesnt work
[18:45] <revol0xf> tiger, you need to install xorg, then a window manager OR a desktop environment like GNOME, KDE etc
[18:45] <tiger> i solve problem many..but having this terrible problem
[18:45] <zykotick9> tiger: if you are chrooted properly - then yes
[18:45] <tiger> yes i am
[18:46] <tiger> i am usging  ubuntu-builder tool
[18:46] <cdavis> Can someone suggest a decent way to integrate several rdesktop sessions into unity?
[18:46] <tiger> i am strugling form it  from morning
[18:46] <SolarisBoy>  cdavis: maybe remmina (application) if i am understanding you right
[18:46] <klmlkdd> hi?
[18:46] <NotAnExpert> Stark: oh, quick google search and now I understand....just never used that term for it before.....actually I never really called it anything :S
[18:46] <klmlkdd> bye
[18:47] <SolarisBoy> cdavis: you can save sessions and dock it in the unity side bar, and it will provide a widget to select collections etc
[18:47] <SolarisBoy> s/collections/connections/
[18:47] <recon69_lap> calamari: as far as i know you have to upgrade 10.04->11.04->12.04
[18:47] <toumbo> How can have my keyring unlocked on every boot? Thank you
[18:47] <tiger> got this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1073559/ :(
[18:48] <occupant> quick question from someone who doesn't really use ubuntu... on a stock install, does the unattended-upgrades run by default?
[18:48] <occupant> unattended-upgrades service, rather
[18:48] <zykotick9> recon69_lap: incorrect.  LTS->LTS is supported.  so 10.04 -> 12.04
[18:49] <Pici> recon69_lap, calamari: additionally, you still can't upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04 without going through 10.10 first.
[18:49] <tiger> when i try to install xorg got this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1073559/
[18:50] <recon69_lap> anyway, I'll stop spreading misinformation , g'night
[18:51] <zykotick9> tiger: you have broken packages... "sudo apt-get -f install" for a general attempt to fix
[18:51] <zykotick9> tiger: plus, xorg is already installed
[18:51] <tiger> i remove bluez
[18:51] <tiger> apt-get purge bluez
[18:51] <tiger> yes it said already install,then why  i cant have gui?
[18:53] <zykotick9> tiger: you are running as root - try "startx" as a regular user
[18:53] <tiger> bro i custmiz system with ubuntu mini..when i boot  it normal user
[18:54] <tiger> so with normal user it said startx not installed install it with apt-get install xinit
[18:54] <deepspeed> rg
[18:54] <bekks> tiger: Install some desktop manager like lightdm, kdm, gdm - and your X will be started automagically.
[18:55] <tiger> i make ubuntu min based on 12.04
[18:55] <zykotick9> bekks: i'd guess ubuntu-desktop probably already includes lightdm.  just a guess
[18:55] <tiger> so i install lightdm,i guess ubuntu 12.04 uses lightdm but it also dont solve my problem
[18:55] <bekks> zykotick9: right.
[18:56] <bekks> tiger: It does solve your problem, since X is started automagically then, and X isnt started using startx anymore.
[18:56] <delac> does any of the music players for ubuntu have fade in/out capability for pause/stop and manual track change, like foobar2000 has?
[18:56]  * genii-around wonders if some kind of DE is required to use a window manager
[18:56] <tiger> this is my problem bro..i do not understood if what is problem
[18:56] <bekks> tiger: So basically all you'd need is to install ubuntu-desktop
[18:57] <bekks> genii-around: No it isnt.
[18:57] <tiger> i install ubuntu-desktop brother
[18:57] <tiger> just now finish ubuntu-desktop
[18:57] <tiger> if you can help me via teamviewer then i will be very help full
[18:58] <zykotick9> bekks: i use startx to start my desktop often
[19:00] <tiger> gdm also doesnot solve problem
[19:01] <zykotick9> genii-around: where you really wondering about DMs?  DE and WM are typically alternatives to one another (though DEs use some sort of WM - but not one that's typically installed by itself)
[19:06] <Stark> Alright, anyway, I got sidetracked earlier
[19:06] <Stark> Deal is, it's freaking impossible to make a boot disk from an ISO in Ubuntu
[19:06] <genii-around> zykotick9: Yes, like xdm,gdm, etc.
[19:06] <Stark> It's failed in so many different ways, I'm starting to think it's actually probable that the whole world was built to trick me into thinking this should work when really it can't
[19:07] <Stark> Because clearly, creating a boot disk from a Windows 7 ISO is just not possible in this universe anymore
[19:07] <zykotick9> genii-around: i use slim as a dm on my desktop, my netbook doesn't have one
[19:08] <zykotick9> !info slim
[19:08] <petale-> hello
[19:08] <Stark> Things I've tried that have failed: UNetbootin, dd, a VM with Windows 7 and the official software to create a Windows 7 boot disk, physical Windows machines with that same software, trying another flash drive, trying another ISO, reformatting in every relevant way
[19:09] <calamari> got it working.. we had to do update-manager -d, without gksu
[19:09] <genii-around> zykotick9: I was more wondering something like... if you installed manually lightdm for instance as tiger did but have no desktop environment... does it pull one in as a dependency or just maybe dump you into something like twm
[19:09] <petale-> i`m a fresh user of a live cd whit oracle vm virtualbox
[19:09] <petale-> i need instrucion to how to remove filters and instaling apache server
[19:09] <zykotick9> genii-around: a de/wm shouldn't be a dependency (it might be) - but it's kinda useless to have a DM if you have no environments?!?
[19:10] <BluesKaj> Stark, are you just looking to make a live-cd from an Ubuntu ISO image?..you keep talking about a boot disk
[19:10] <genii-around> zykotick9: Yes, exactly
[19:10] <petale-> and of course a bootable cd
[19:10] <Stark> BluesKaj: No, I'm trying to make a bootable flash drive from a Windows 7 ISO
[19:10] <Stark> to install a Windows 7 partition
[19:10] <Stark> and I am trying to do this using Ubuntu
[19:10] <tiger> give up
[19:10] <BluesKaj> Stark, don
[19:10] <zykotick9> Stark: ##windows
[19:11] <spydmobile> Hi, I ran updates on my 12.04 64bit ubunto on my del lattitude e6500 with intel grafics to day and it asked me to reboot. when it got to the part where unity asks me to login, it said my grafics is running in low graphics mode. I have been reading and messing around for 2 hours and cannot get this fixed, does anyone have a suggestion? Ive tried Xorg -configure, reinstall gdm, and tons of other voodoo but no luck.
[19:11] <Stark> zykotick9: I'm on Ubuntu... I seriously doubt they'd have any way to help me.
[19:11]  * petale- hello peolple
[19:11] <zykotick9> spydmobile: what graphics card?  "lspci | grep -i vga" in terminal if unsure.
[19:12] <BluesKaj> Stark, one question ,why ?
[19:12] <tiger> startk i am upset too that ubuntu support team unable to solve my problem
[19:12] <tiger> but anyway thanks all who try to help me
[19:12] <Stark> BluesKaj: Gaming, Steam, Netflix, anything else Windows-exclusive
[19:13] <spydmobile> zykotick9: Its intel Mobile 4 integrated...
[19:13] <zykotick9> spydmobile: actually, is this a hybrid system?  you need "lspci -v" i think to see if that's the case.
[19:13] <BluesKaj> Stark, just burn a windows cd from the image , don't think windows is installable from usb
[19:14] <Stark> BluesKaj: It is certainly instalable from USB, as my previous installation was from USB
[19:14] <Carraway> is there a filesystem that I can put on an external hard drive that can be read by both linux/ubuntu AND os x
[19:14] <BluesKaj> windows ?
[19:14] <Stark> BluesKaj: Yes, Windows 7
[19:14] <tiger> window is instalable from usb
[19:14] <tiger> i am 100%sure coz i did
[19:14] <Carraway> oops, and by read, I meant read/write from both ubuntu & osx
[19:14] <spydmobile> zykotick9: unsure, it called it i915 with -v
[19:14] <Stark> BluesKaj: And I don't have any DVDs to burn to, nor would I waste one on this when I know it's super easy to install Windows from USB
[19:15] <Stark> Or at least, it's supposed to be super easy
[19:15] <Stark> And has been in the past
[19:15] <Stark> But now suddenly it refuses to work no matter what
[19:15] <hje841> How do I get in contact with a RS232 device through a USB-RS232 adapter in terminal?
[19:15] <deper29> i7c, okay, I tried something and seriously messed something up I think. I tried installing the realtek driver from http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false after I rebooted I have no sound at all :(
[19:15] <khismetix> Quick question.. we have a host running Ubuntu on Amazon EC2
[19:15] <zykotick9> spydmobile: does grub give you the option of booting an older kernel currently?
[19:15] <BluesKaj> then my answer is , it should work , but why isn't a question for this chat , ask in ##windows :)
[19:15] <khismetix> We cannot delete a java war file.. which is owned by root and has 777 UNIX permissions
[19:15] <khismetix> either logged in as the ubuntu user or sudo
[19:16] <khismetix> why might this be ??
[19:16] <spydmobile> zykotick9: No :( only this one and thos one recovery 3.2.0-26-generic
[19:16] <i7c> deper29: :-/ is this a desktop pc you are using?
[19:16] <Stark> BluesKaj: If I had money, I'd be willing to bet they'll just send me back here because there's no way they can help
[19:16] <deper29> i7c, it's a desktop
[19:16] <zykotick9> khismetix: is it located on a fat/ntfs partition?  (if so unix permissions don't apply)
[19:16] <petale-> locate file
[19:17] <khismetix> zykotick9 : I don't believe so
[19:17] <khismetix> pure Ubuntu
[19:17] <petale-> chmod +x *
[19:17] <i7c> deper29: are you sure that your soundcard is connected to the headphones jack?
[19:17] <i7c> deper29: oh you said it works on win, right
[19:17] <petale-> :)
[19:17] <deper29> i7c, before I had several choices of output. I had turtlebeach usb speakers, internal audio and the audiophile sound card. Now I have nothing except internal audio
[19:17] <zykotick9> spydmobile: you updated and now GUI won't start is your issue - to clarify.
[19:18] <BluesKaj> Stark, well if the ppl at ##windows don't know haow to help ...I won't state the obvious
[19:18] <Stark> BluesKaj: Apparently it isn't obvious, I'm not sure what you're getting at
[19:18] <andreb> hi all
[19:18] <r3dLunchb0x_> looking for a good tool to monitor nfs traffic. something that shows amount of data through certain interface.
[19:18] <andreb> how do i format a usb drive in ubuntu ?
[19:18] <andreb> via cli
[19:18] <tiger> andreb do this
[19:19] <spydmobile> zykotick9: When I get to login it forces me to low grafics mode, which does boot, but I am trying to get back my normal desktop seetings and be able to use my other monitor, in the old days I would fix my corrupted xorg.conf but this aint the old days ;-)
[19:19] <zykotick9> khismetix: then something else is at play (or you're not providing enough consistent information)??  "ls -l" the file and your command output to paste.ubuntu.com might help
[19:19] <BluesKaj> Stark, then why are you asking here ?
[19:19] <tiger> dmesg | tail
[19:19] <deper29> i7c, my internal soundcard from the motherboard is what's connected to the headphone jack
[19:19] <tiger> find your usb name
[19:19] <tiger> it should be /dev/sdc1
[19:19] <Stark> BluesKaj: What do you mean?
[19:19] <tiger> for format do this
[19:19] <khismetix> http://pastebin.com/DMT9NyKT
[19:19] <khismetix> zykotick9 :http://pastebin.com/DMT9NyKT
[19:19] <tiger> mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc1
[19:19] <BluesKaj> exactly what i said Stark
[19:19] <i7c> i7c: try resetting your pulseaudio settings. for that you can open a terminal and do    mv ~/.pulse ~/.pulse-backup    this will make a backup of your settings. then do    pulseaudio -k
[19:19] <genii-around> andreb: Tiger assumes you have partitioned it
[19:20] <zykotick9> khismetix: whoami
[19:20] <i7c> deper29: ^ this :D
[19:20] <khismetix> ubuntu
[19:20] <genii-around> andreb: Additionally that you want fat filesystem
[19:20] <Stark> BluesKaj: Because I'm having a problem in Ubuntu and would like to know how to fix it? I thought that was the whole point of this channel
[19:20] <tiger> dmeesg | tail first find device name
[19:20] <khismetix> zykotick9 : http://pastebin.com/ZqDmQsSH
[19:20] <petale-> ?? scanner
[19:20] <petale-> :)
[19:20] <i7c> deper29: afterwards you can restart pavucontrol and see if the devices come back
[19:20] <zykotick9> khismetix: the file is owned by ubuntu/ubuntu - root/sudo should be able to delete that easily.  what are the permissions on the containing folder might be an issue?
[19:21] <khismetix> I will paste directory perms
[19:21] <Guest15674> need help, cant boot into ubuntu :
[19:21] <andreb> tiger : dmesg | tail gives me   " inboiund IN=eth0" and so forth i dotn see anything about /dev/*
[19:21] <zykotick9> khismetix: remember "ls -ld" to just get the directory
[19:22] <tiger> you usb is not mounted
[19:22] <khismetix> http://pastebin.com/2VZbeveg
[19:22] <deper29> i7c, so pulseaudio -k will reset the settings?
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> Guest29895  what happens or doesnt happen when you try
[19:22]  * BluesKaj scrolls back
[19:22] <zykotick9> khismetix: the folder is root owned you need to use sudo to delete that subfile i'd guess
[19:22] <khismetix> is the fact that the parent /home/ubuntu dir is not group writeable
[19:22] <charsi_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2015576
[19:22] <i7c> deper29: by moving that folder with  mv  they are already reset.  pulseaudio -k   just stops the service and it is automatically restarted
[19:22] <charsi_> can't boot into ubuntu :(
[19:23] <khismetix> I am trying sudo zykotick9  and that fails
[19:23] <r3dLunchb0x_> looking for a good tool to monitor nfs traffic. something that shows amount of data through certain interface.
[19:23] <deper29> i7c, when I do pulseaudio -k after moving the folder I get E: main.c: Failed to kill daemon: No such process
[19:23] <chrisirc> Hello. I've downloaded Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.0.2.exe and searching for its checksums on google I'm just finding http://r.virscan.org/0cdb18b306aa49e2c1e6cc8086bd2fe4 which gives me a 3% chance of it being infected with malware.
[19:23] <khismetix> zykotick9 : that was what I showed in this pastebin …> http://pastebin.com/ZqDmQsSH
[19:23] <khismetix> sudo rm -f cms_w3.war failed
[19:23] <chrisirc> And no other results from google at all.
[19:24] <i7c> deper29: then just type  pulseaudio
[19:24] <zykotick9> khismetix: that show an ip address is ~ remotely mounted?
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> chrisirc  your question being...
[19:25] <khismetix> zykotick9 : which shows remote mounting ??
[19:25] <zykotick9> khismetix: "mount"
[19:25] <charsi_> Can somebody please help me fix my grub settings..
[19:25] <charsi_> i just installed ubuntu but can't boot into it
[19:25] <tiger> charsi what problem to grub?
[19:25] <deper29> i7c, I get this if I do that http://pastebin.com/uXNc1pKb
[19:25] <khismetix> ok
[19:25] <zykotick9> khismetix: SIDENOTE - use tab completion for the file name instead of *
[19:25] <andreb> tiger : i am trying to mount the drive using mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/Backup and i am getting teh error  " fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy" .. the drive is plugged in :(
[19:26] <zykotick9> !tab | khismetix
[19:26] <charsi_> tiger, i get "no such partition" when i boot
[19:26] <khismetix> Yes sorry it is an old habit of mine
[19:26] <khismetix> http://pastebin.com/j2vNFKvP
[19:26] <i7c> deper29: oh oh. looks truly messed up... have you done a restart already?
[19:27] <BluesKaj> Stark, have you tried "burn" in the terminal ?
[19:27] <deper29> after I installed that driver I did a restart and this is how it was
[19:27] <deper29> I can try restarting again?
[19:27] <zykotick9> khismetix: you don't appear to have a separate /home at all - so ~ should be local!
[19:27] <Stark> BluesKaj: No, I haven't. What syntax would I use?
[19:27] <lessless> which browser i can chroot on truecrypt image?
[19:27] <lessless> make a 'portable' version
[19:27] <khismetix> yes.. so, under what circumstances would rm fail ??
[19:27] <khismetix> local file , sudo
[19:27] <Stark> BluesKaj: It's installing atm
[19:28] <zykotick9> khismetix: that's where something doesn't add up.
[19:28] <khismetix> very strange alright
[19:29] <khismetix> presumably sudo should never refuse to delete a file ??
[19:29] <khismetix> local file
[19:29] <eladio> en español por favor
[19:29] <khismetix> non mounted UNIX fs
[19:29] <DJones> !es | eladio
[19:30] <r3dLunchb0x_> looking for a good tool to monitor nfs traffic. something that shows amount of data through certain interface.
[19:30] <deper29> i7c, I'll be right back. trying another reboot
[19:30] <zykotick9> khismetix: does this give any output? "lsof | grep -i cms_v3.war"
[19:30] <raven> how to pipe a mencoder image stream to convert?
[19:30] <khismetix> no output zykotick9
[19:30] <eladio> en español
[19:31] <zykotick9> khismetix: good
[19:31] <BluesKaj> Stark, burn -I -n image.iso
[19:31] <zykotick9> khismetix: just try rm cms_v3.war
[19:31] <eladio> excuse me speak spanish
[19:31] <Stark> BluesKaj: Where do I specify the destination volume?
[19:31] <zykotick9> !en | eladio
[19:31] <DJones> eladio: This is an english only channel, you need to join #ubuntu-es for spanish
[19:31] <genii-around> !es | eladio
[19:31] <zykotick9> sorry
[19:31] <glitsj16> r3dLunchb0x_: have you tried nfswatch yet?
[19:32] <khismetix> zykotick9 : permission denied (as ubuntu)
[19:32] <zykotick9>  !es is what i meant eladio
[19:32] <anthology> khismetix: run mc using sudo navigate to file press f8 to deletr
[19:32] <khismetix> permission denied when sudo rm file
[19:32] <r3dLunchb0x_> glitsj16: downloading the source for it right now, unless ubuntu has an apt pkg for it.
[19:32] <khismetix> anthology.. is mc text based ??
[19:32] <khismetix> non-gui anthology  ?
[19:32] <anthology> yes
[19:33] <khismetix> the programme mc is not currently installed
[19:33] <khismetix> to install apt-get install
[19:33] <deper29> i7c, nothing still :(
[19:33] <glitsj16> r3dLunchb0x_: assuming your on ubuntu 12.04 it should take 'sudo apt-get install nfswatch'
[19:33] <khismetix> so, should I install ??
[19:33] <anthology> mc
[19:33] <BluesKaj> Stark, burn -I -n image.iso -p /pathtovolume
[19:33] <phil_phys> dear friends is there a chat about C programming language??
[19:34] <anthology> midnight commander
[19:34] <Pici> phil_phys: ##c
[19:34] <charsi_> need help with grub.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2015576
[19:34] <Stark> BluesKaj: Invalid syntax. First argument should be a main mode. See 'burn -h' for more info.
[19:34] <choppyfireballs> I was wondering what the best way to back up a mysql database is using CRON
[19:34] <khismetix> anthology :I've mc up now
[19:34] <khismetix> anthology : never used it.. says 8 for delete
[19:35] <khismetix> how do I choose option 8
[19:35] <glitsj16> r3dLunchb0x_: you can always search for a regular ubuntu package on packages.ubuntu.com, that will have all info for all available versions etc.
[19:35] <phil_phys> ##c
[19:35] <anthology> press f8
[19:35] <LjL> phil_phys: /join ##c
[19:35] <tanin> will 12.10 get new gimp out of "box"?
[19:35] <r3dLunchb0x_> glitsj16: thank you, it installed and am currently watching the output. now to figure out how to watch a specific mount point. thank you again.
[19:35] <khismetix> permission denied (13) anthology
[19:36] <glitsj16> r3dLunchb0x_: very welcome
[19:36] <i7c> deper29: :-/
[19:36] <choppyfireballs> I was wondering what the best way to backup a mysqldatabase using CRON would be
[19:37] <i7c> deper29: you should try to undo this stuff you did
[19:37] <anthology> did you run mc with sudo
[19:37] <zykotick9> glitsj16: r3dLunchb0x_ i use "apt-cache search foo" to find most packages from terminal, "apt-cache policy foo" will show what version of things is installed, and where packages are coming from (by there url)
[19:37] <deper29> i7c, how would I uninstall that driver I installed? I had to use an install script to install it, and in the readme it doesn't say how to uninstall it
[19:37] <khismetix> anthology  : yes, with sudo
[19:38] <r3dLunchb0x_> zykotick9: thanks for that
[19:38] <tanin> #list
[19:38] <chrisirc> What is the correct sha256 sum of Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.0.2.exe?
[19:38] <glitsj16> zykotick9: thanks for the additional info, i use an alias in ~/.bashrc that's so old i forgot where it aliases to .. could need angrade :)
[19:39] <i7c> deper29: i dont know. i can't tell you that.
[19:39] <glitsj16> *upgrade
[19:39] <anthology> try log in as root using su them run mc
[19:39] <deper29> i7c, darn :/
[19:39] <trism> tanin: 12.10 already has gimp 2.8
[19:39] <kosher> hey
[19:39] <yahoo> hi
[19:39] <zykotick9> anthology: bad advice probably - root is disabled by default
[19:39] <Somelauw> What happens if when updating I choose to start a shell to examine the current situation. How will I find the files I need to backup?
[19:39] <tanin> thanks much
[19:40] <kosher> After installing ubuntu 12.04 desktop, I get an error hd0 cannot get c/h/s values... i've tried running boot repair, tried installing to another partition, no luck.  I am installing from a USB that was created from the iso.
[19:40] <khismetix> zykotick9 : root disabled on an EC2 ?
[19:40] <tanin> I assumed it would
[19:40] <chrisirc> MonkeyDust, I want to have some safety running the program I downloaded, so I wonder what you think about it turning up on the virscan website, and whether anyone has got the same hash as me.
[19:40] <kosher> when I type set, I see prefix=(hd0,msdos1)/boot/grub
[19:40] <kosher> that's in grub rescue
[19:40] <kosher> I also see root=hd0,msdos1
[19:40] <kosher> why it says dos, I have no idea
[19:41] <khismetix> zykotick9 : when I do sudo bash, whoami, I get root
[19:41] <zykotick9> khismetix oh ya - you could be bad and try "sudo -i" then cd to the correct directory (and delete the file with tab completion, don't use * just in case)
[19:41] <khismetix> yet when I navigate to that file.. cannot delete it
[19:41] <khismetix> zyk
[19:41] <zykotick9> khismetix: get out of sudo bash!  fast - don't use that
[19:41] <khismetix> might try that
[19:42] <kosher> anyone?
[19:42] <drPoo> Would this setup (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto#Installing_custom_init-scripts) work on 12.04?
[19:42] <khismetix> zykotick9 : sudo -i  didn't work
[19:42] <zykotick9> !doesntwork
[19:42] <khismetix> zykotick9 : what is the significance of using tab completion
[19:43] <BluesKaj> Stark_, maybe 'burn' isn't the right choice , but I know wodim works , http://linuxconfig.org/using-command-line-wodim-tool-to-burn-iso-image
[19:43] <khismetix> zykotick9 : I simply cd to the correct directory and rm -f fullfilename
[19:43] <khismetix> tried both rm -f and plain rm
[19:43] <zykotick9> khismetix: stop with the -f as well
[19:43] <khismetix> sure.. just said that
[19:43] <khismetix> tried both
[19:43] <khismetix> the file won't budge
[19:44] <Somelauw> Oh, wait I found it. If I edit the config file manually, does it solve the problem?
[19:44] <khismetix> could there be some inode
[19:44] <zykotick9> khismetix: ? i have no further suggestions - good luck
[19:44] <khismetix> issue
[19:44] <threexk> hello.  How do you add a custom keyboard shortcut?  I went to System Settings->Keyboard->Shortcuts and added one, but it just says "disabled".
[19:44] <khismetix> I remember before you can find inode and delete file with a find exec
[19:44] <korbel> Is anyone aware of a non-free repo for debian/ubuntu that is similar to rpmfusion for fedora?
[19:44] <kosher> error hd0 cannot get c/h/s values!
[19:44] <kosher> damnit
[19:45] <zykotick9> korbel: don't try and mix debian and ubuntu - which do you want?
[19:45] <anthology> khismetix: boot up a linux live distro delete the file from there
[19:45] <khismetix> anthology : this is on the cloud
[19:45] <khismetix> anthology : this is an EC2 instance on the cloud
[19:45] <kosher> ubuntu is such a buggy POS
[19:45] <korbel> ah, excellent point. Lets say for debian
[19:45] <threexk> Nevermind, I figured it out--you have to click the right place in the row.
[19:46] <zykotick9> korbel: for non-free, non-official stuff see debian-multimedia (they recently changed the name slightly) for ubuntu see mediubuntu
[19:46] <drPoo> where do I copy bash scripts that I want to be executed at startup in 12.04? Would this work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto#Installing_custom_init-scripts?
[19:46] <horatio_cromwell> anyone recommend ome free disk/partition imaging software ?
[19:46] <korbel> and by chance, would this contain the progress of the nvidia-drivers?
[19:46] <Stark_> So burn can be added to the list of methods that didn't work
[19:46] <khismetix> even this won't work anthology , zykotick9  : find . -inum 344090 -exec rm -i {} \;
[19:46] <spydmobile> horatio_cromwell: i like clonezilla.
[19:47] <zykotick9> horatio_cromwell: not sure what ome is - but clonezilla
[19:47] <khismetix> 344090 is the inode
[19:47] <Priyantha> korbel: for the newest nvidia drivers you need the xorg-edgers ppa
[19:47] <drPoo> horatio_cromwell, parted, gparted, fdisk... but you can get gparted as a livecd
[19:47] <korbel> ty
[19:47] <Priyantha> korbel: https://edge.launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[19:47] <zykotick9> drPoo: those are partitioning software, not imaging
[19:47] <Priyantha> please read the instructions carefully korbel !
[19:47] <horatio_cromwell> drPoo:  disk imaging (cloning a disk or partition) not creating partitions
[19:47] <korbel> again, ty
[19:48] <Priyantha> those instructions are with serious warnings which you should know :)
[19:48] <BluesKaj>  horatio_cromwell look at dd
[19:48] <Arch> Hi; anyone knows how to set a VPN connection on Ubuntu 11.04?
[19:48] <delac> does any of the music players for ubuntu have fade in/out capability for pause/stop/seek and manual track change, like foobar2000 has?
[19:48] <Priyantha> use network-manager-vpn ?
[19:48] <horatio_cromwell> bascically a free partition magic
[19:48]  * zykotick9 thinks disk imaging backups is a waste of space generally
[19:49] <kosher> mother chucker
[19:49] <khismetix> zykotick9 : no other ideas ?
[19:49] <kosher> i've installed ubuntu 80 times
[19:49] <Priyantha> what's wrong kosher ?
[19:49] <kosher> still won't boot
[19:49] <Arch> I've username, password; address, portal and one ip for VPN; just dunno how to set them
[19:49] <kosher> After installing ubuntu 12.04 desktop, I get an error hd0 cannot get c/h/s values... i've tried running boot repair, tried installing to another partition, no luck.  I am installing from a USB that was created from the iso.
[19:49] <khismetix> I remember once being able to delete a file whose inode had becomed detached using that find . -inum piped to exec trick
[19:49] <BluesKaj> horatio_cromwell, what is it that you want to do ?
[19:49] <Priyantha> Arch: what kind of VPN is it ?
[19:50] <kosher> error hd0 cannot get c/h/s values!
[19:50] <kosher> when I type set, I see prefix=(hd0,msdos1)/boot/grub
[19:50] <Priyantha> are you 100% sure your hdd is healthy kosher ?
[19:50] <kosher> yep
[19:50] <Arch> I dunno, i just purchase it today; they give me username, password, address; and one ip:port
[19:50] <kosher> i've tried two diff hdds
[19:50] <kosher> i can boot to my usb stick
[19:50] <Priyantha> Arch: it's important to know what kind of VPN it is on the other side
[19:51] <Arch> HTTPS they wrote.
[19:51] <Priyantha> if it is a WIndows vpn, most likely it is a pptp connection
[19:51] <kosher> i ran boot-repair
[19:51] <kosher> same issue
[19:51] <Priyantha> Then I would suggest to install "sudo apt-get install network-manager-pptp-gnome"
[19:51] <r3dLunchb0x_> glitsj16: nfswatch borks on ubuntu's nfsV4....is there another way to monitor the size/amount of traffic going through nfs?
[19:51] <Priyantha> strange kosher :(
[19:51] <rhizmoe> windows vpns have been ipsec for several years now
[19:51] <BluesKaj> kosher, direct your question at someone rather than the chat in general , Priyantha asked you what's wrong
[19:51] <Priyantha> ow yeah you're right rhizmoe :(
[19:52] <rhizmoe> almost a decade
[19:52] <kosher> ?
[19:52] <kosher> BluesKaj: what do you mean
[19:52] <Arch> Where can i find n download it Priyantha?
[19:52] <glitsj16> r3dLunchb0x_: nothing that springs to mind right now
[19:52] <BluesKaj> ahh kosher now you got it , Priyantha asked what's wrong use his/her nick to answer
[19:53] <Priyantha> Arch: you can try to do "sudo apt-get install strongswan-nm"
[19:53] <Priyantha> then it will install a strongswan plugin for network-manager
[19:53] <Arch> In terminal?
[19:53] <angs> what is the importance of  usb.ids? if vendor id is defined wrong, would it effect anything on the functionality?
[19:53] <khismetix> zykotick9 : if I cp the file to /tmp and cd /tmp, the copy deletes fine
[19:53] <Priyantha> Arch: yes in terminal
[19:54] <kosher> .... gparted says /dev/sdb1 is set to boot
[19:54] <zykotick9> r3dLunchb0x_: thanks! i'd never heard of nfswatch.  cli monitors are my favourite.  sorry it's not working for you.
[19:55] <Priyantha> kosher: did you do a clean install ?
[19:55] <kosher> yeah
[19:55] <spydmobile> !logged
[19:55] <kosher> formatted all the drives with gparted
[19:55] <kosher> also ran the generic install
[19:55] <Priyantha> and your "/dev/sdb1" is that the disk with the OS ?
[19:55] <isitme> kosher: if you don't put the nick in front of your sentence your partner might not see that you answered
[19:55] <kosher> ran boot-repair and cleaned... reinstaled
[19:55] <Arch> Done Priyantha, now what to do?
[19:56] <Priyantha> kosher: if so then it should be not hd0 but hd1
[19:56] <Jordan_U> kosher: Could you run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt which it produces?
[19:56] <kosher> Priyantha: ok, Jordan_U ok
[19:56] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | kosher
[19:56] <Priyantha> Arch: you may click on the network icon ?
[19:57] <Priyantha> Arch: if it's okay you'll see there a menu with creating vpn conection or something
[19:57] <aaas> anyone have any good solution to run apt-get upgrade automatically?  I'm just sick of all the update reminders, though I want to keep everything up to date.  I hear running it with -y is bad, I was thinking just run it every morning with cron so I could just press 'y' and check for config file replacements if necessary but im not sure root can run a terminal from cron. any ideas?
[19:57] <Jordan_U> Priyantha: Most (all?) BIOSs number the drive you booted from as drive 0.
[19:57] <Priyantha> I am currently not running a Ubuntu desktop so I can't check for you sorry, currently running Debian
[19:57] <Arch> Priyantha: Yes i've it; i just dunno how to create.
[19:58] <Arch> when i put everything into it, and save; then click on it; it said: "Failed"
[19:58] <Priyantha> Jordan_U: I know Jordan_U, but kosher said "sdb1" and sdb is mostly the second drive ;) so not drive 0 but drive1
[19:58] <gozon> i had install a program that has a problem and i found  a patch on the internet but i dont know how to install the patch
[19:58] <Priyantha> Jordan_U: "sda" is mostly the first drive and so drive 0
[19:59] <Priyantha> Arch: did you try that before or after installing the stuff ?
[19:59] <Jordan_U> Priyantha: How the BIOS numbers drives, and how Linux numbers drives, is often completely unrelated.
[19:59] <Arch> I've try that before lunching your code.
[19:59] <zykotick9> doesn't the booted drive become sda be default these days?
[20:00] <Jordan_U> zykotick9: No.
[20:00] <Arch> It's a check button before VPN connection that i've created; but still i can't surf anonymous. still website's are filer
[20:00] <Priyantha> Arch: you should try it know again ;) and maybe even log out and log-in again, I don't know if the applet and the network-manager tool behind it is aware of the changes already
[20:00] <zykotick9> Jordan_U: did it for a while and recently change?
[20:00] <Jordan_U> zykotick9: No.
[20:00] <gozon> i installed a program that has a problem and i found a patch that fix it but i dont know how to install the patch...could someone help me please
[20:00] <CetniK> priyantha are you poonjabi?
[20:00] <kosher> no mouse
[20:00] <Priyantha> CetniK: no I am not
[20:00] <Arch> aha, Error was '(null)'
[20:00] <kosher> how do I run the boot info script?
[20:00] <papna> I ran `apt-get install  python-mpi4py  python-h5py  python-chaco python-traits` on a working install of Ubuntu 11.10. A configuration screen came up asking me about grub and I told it not to try to install grub. That seems to have broken my kernel image install e.g.: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1073681/ Can anyone help me repair this?
[20:00] <Priyantha> CetniK: I am just Priyantha :)
[20:01] <kosher> or get it without a mouse
[20:01] <CetniK> but are you a benchod?
[20:01] <aaas> gozon there are examples on teh web, what program is it
[20:01] <khismetix> More on this file deletion issue… I cannot "touch" a file in the directory
[20:01] <Arch> i must try it and if not succeed, call to company i've buy VPN.
[20:01] <khismetix> directory is owner by root:root but even sudo touch xx won't happen
[20:01] <Priyantha> CetniK: I don't know what a benchod is so I don't think so no ;)
[20:01] <zykotick9> Jordan_U: that would explain why the install could be mbr installs properly to the hd with recent versions, and not older ones.  sdX is a deprecated system IMO, using Labels or UUIDs is cleaner
[20:01] <gozon> aaas, i can give you the link of the issue and perhaps can help mefigure it out?
[20:02] <aaas> gozon i can try i haven't done it in a while
[20:02] <gozon> aaas, http://code.google.com/p/webcamstudio/issues/detail?id=75
[20:02] <Jordan_U> zykotick9: Drive enumeration by the kernel happens before the root filesystem is found, and the kernel can never really know for sure what drive the bootloader was loaded from, or where the kernel itself was loaded from. Yes, UUIDs and labels are the only reliable way to go.
[20:03] <aaas> gozon one sec
[20:03] <gozon> aaas, sure..take your time
[20:05] <zykotick9> Jordan_U: i can believe everything you are saying - but, recent ubuntu installers from USB don't suffer the same issue they used too (where you had to manually select the HD for grub to install to - or it would end up on the usb) so it does now seem to be able to know something?
[20:05] <raven> how to pipe a mencoder image stream to convert?
[20:05] <raven> how to pipe a mencoder image stream to convert?
[20:06] <zykotick9> !alis | raven i'd search for a mplayer/mencoder channel if i where you
[20:07] <aaas> gozon sorry was afk one sec
[20:07] <aaas> gozon so you have the source?
[20:07] <aaas> gozon you're compiling?
[20:08] <gozon> aaas, i really appreciate it...no...i did apt-get after adding a ppa
[20:08] <Jordan_U_bak> zykotick9: Ubuntu's installer tries to install grub to what appears to be the "first" drive by default, this is because this drive will most likely be the one that the BIOS is configured to boot from. This is a decision which they have made consciously, and which I disagree with. When it is detected that you are installing Ubuntu to a USB device however they *do* do the sane thing and install grub's boot sector to the MBR of th
[20:09] <aaas> gozon ok if you look at the patch you see it say +++ /user/bin/webcamstudio
[20:09] <aaas> gozon im assuming you have that file, right?
[20:10] <Jordan_U_bak> zykotick9: In previous versions of Ubuntu they didn't treat USB drives differently, now they do. I personally wish that they would always default to installing grub's boot sector to the MBR of the drive containing Ubuntu, and there is no technical problem preventing them from doing so, they have just decided not to do things that way.
[20:10] <gozon> aaas, the apt-get installed the application...i guess it is
[20:10] <gozon> there
[20:10] <ZummiG777> Question, is there a way to bring up all interfaces listed in an interfaces file without having to do a init.d restart?
[20:11] <aaas> gozon check run ls /usr/bin/webcamstudio
[20:11] <aaas> gozon does it show the file
[20:11] <gozon> aaas, yes it does show in green
[20:11] <kosher> Jordan_U_bak: Priyantha:  http://pastebin.com/SFqhQWF7
[20:12] <aaas> gozon does it show /usr/bin/webcamstudio.orig
[20:12] <cmdrhenner> zummig777 try: ifup interfacename
[20:12] <aaas> gozon just curious
[20:12] <gozon> aaas, it shows /usr/bin/webcamstudio in green letters
[20:13] <aaas> gozon but not /usr/bin/webcamstudio.orig?
[20:13] <gozon> the ls command
[20:13] <zykotick9> Jordan_U_bak: thanks for the details!
[20:13] <ZummiG777> cmdrhenner: Oh, I know that, I've got a inetrfaces file with many entries that I don't want to ifup the way through.  I wasn't sure if there was a way to basically say "bring up all interfaces in this file"
[20:13] <gozon> aaas, not with dot orig
[20:13] <faryshta> How do I trick 12.04 to install a 12.10 package?
[20:14] <BluesKaj> ZummiG777, do you mean /etc/nrtwork/interfaces , it may not contain much if you're using network manager
[20:14] <Gyges> faryshta, add quantal repos in /etc/sources.list
[20:14] <papna> Of course...of course installing some Python packages would ask me about grub then ruin my kernel install.
[20:14] <papna> What else?
[20:14] <Gyges> faryshta, it's /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:14] <aaas> gozon ok so you have to go to that directory   ---> cd /usr/bin
[20:15] <ZummiG777> BluesKaj: I've got a series of static IPs in there that are controlled through centralized configuration management from a remote server.
[20:15] <gozon> aaas, and?
[20:15] <aaas> gozon you'll find more info here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1624005
[20:15] <BluesKaj> ZummiG777, err , /etc/network/interfaces
[20:15] <zykotick9> faryshta: Gyges mixing repos is a bad idea - your gonna end up with a broken frankensystem that no one can fix.  use pinning (for the entire system), or you'll end up upgrading everything.
[20:15] <wilornel> hey guys
[20:15] <aaas> gozon if you get an error id didnt work...it shouldn't break anything...it just wont work if you type things wrong
[20:15] <faryshta> zykotick9, what do I do then?
[20:16] <Jordan_U> zykotick9: You're welcome.
[20:16] <aaas> gozon you might have to use -p0 instead of -p1
[20:16] <aaas> gozon but try:
[20:16] <wilornel> I wanted to know, how to install a library?
[20:16] <wilornel> I have the files bmp.cpp and bmp.h
[20:16] <kosher> Jordan_U: Did you have a chance to look at the Boot Info Script?
[20:16] <aaas> gozon actually you might want to copy the patch file there, you'll probably need to use sudo
[20:16] <wilornel> In my project.c I #include <bmp.h>
[20:16] <Gyges> faryshta, search packages.ubuntu.com download each package you'll subsequently need and install
[20:16] <gozon> aaas, copy the patch where?
[20:16] <wilornel> but then when I compile with g++, it does not work!
[20:16] <aaas> gozon to /usr/bin
[20:17] <aaas> gozon then cd to that directory
[20:17] <glitsj16> r3dLunchb0x_: any luck yet finding alternatives to nfswatch? i ask because i'm not sure if tshark (console) / wireshark (gui) have nfs support .. no nfs around @home to test tshark so this could just be another dud .. time for me to move, goodluck & take care
[20:17] <Jordan_U> kosher: It's still loading in my browser (I am using a *very* bad connection at the moment :)
[20:17] <gozon> aaas, i am going read the page you just posted
[20:17] <wilornel> anyone?
[20:17] <aaas> gozon yes the command should be patch -p1 diff_webcamstudio.patch
[20:18] <aaas> gozon yes the command should be patch -p1 < diff_webcamstudio.patch
[20:18] <zykotick9> glitsj16: wireshark capture packets - that would include nfs ;)  not a very good "monitor" imo.  r3dLunchb0x_
[20:18] <aaas> gozon but both files need to be in that directory
[20:18] <r3dLunchb0x_> glitsj16: found a tcpdump dommand to monitor the port, will be pushing the through wireshark to see if it gathers up the info i need.
[20:18] <BluesKaj> ZummiG777, so your /etc/network/interfaces file is basically cloned in each pc with all the IPs ?
[20:18] <aaas> gozon the webcamstudio file and the patch file
[20:18] <wilornel> guys cmon its a fast one
[20:18] <Gyges> wilornel, search for the name of the library AND for packages ending in -dev
[20:18] <Jordan_U> kosher: Can you easily remove all drives except sda? It will make testing easier.
[20:19] <glitsj16> zykotick9: thx for the confirmation
[20:19] <gozon> aaas, so i do have to copy the patch in the bin directory?
[20:19] <kosher> yeah
[20:19] <gozon> thats all?
[20:19] <kosher> except sdc
[20:19] <kosher> unless you just mean to test booting
[20:19] <zykotick9> r3dLunchb0x_: nfswatch is pretty buggy :(  lots of ctrl+l to draw the screen
[20:19] <faryshta> Gyges, zykotick9 do you guys know how to erase all the files you get when you do "apt-get update"?
[20:19] <aaas> gozon you copy the file THEN run that command: 'patch -p1 < <patchfilename>'
[20:19] <aaas> gozon you can delete the file after
[20:19] <Jordan_U> kosher: I do mean to test booting.
[20:19] <cmdrhenner> ZummiG777: ifup with option -i , then you can use an interface-file
[20:19] <aaas> gozon you can delete the PATCH FILE after
[20:20] <ZummiG777> BluesKaj: There are a list of static IPs, all bound to lo in some fashion, that are cloned between machines.  This is part of an ipvs cluster.  I would like, when the file is updated, that all of the ip addresses that were added are brought up automatically.  In theory I could do a initl.d/networking restart but if there in an error I'd like eth0 to still be active.
[20:20] <gozon> aaas, i am getting confuse
[20:20] <gozon> lol
[20:20] <aaas> gozon ok one step at a time...
[20:20] <ZummiG777> Thanks cmdrhenner!
[20:20] <aaas> gozon you have /usr/bin/webcamstudio right?
[20:20] <gozon> aaas, right
[20:20] <aaas> gozon you have the patch file?
[20:20] <gozon> yes
[20:20] <aaas> gozon are they BOTH in /usr/bin
[20:21] <gozon> i am going to copy the pat in the bin
[20:21] <gozon> one minute
[20:21] <aaas> gozon ok
[20:21] <Gyges> faryshta, something with /var/cache/apt, if you delete the wrong ones you might end up autoremoving the system ;)
[20:21] <kosher> ok
[20:21] <kosher> I removed all but sda
[20:21] <cmdrhenner> ZummiG777: i don`t test it ;-)
[20:21] <kosher> same error
[20:21] <kosher> hd0 cannot get c/h/s values
[20:21] <faryshta> Gyges, ups
[20:21] <kosher> grub rescue
[20:21] <FloodBot1> kosher: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:22] <cmdrhenner> ZummiG777: just read "man ifup" :-)
[20:22] <kosher> Jordan_U: same error
[20:23] <Jordan_U_bak> kosher: That sounds like a BIOS bug to me, though I'm not certain. Is your drive connected via SATA or PATA (IDE)?
[20:23] <kosher> sata
[20:23] <kosher> let me try connecting this other SSD
[20:24] <Jemmm> hello
[20:24] <ZummiG777> Thanks all!
[20:24] <Jemmm> I need help with jolicloud
[20:24] <kosher> ok trying sdb now
[20:24] <BluesKaj> ZummiG777, I doubt if just adding IPs to the interfaces files will create any errors during a network interfaces restart , but i've never had to deal with a "cluster"
[20:24] <kosher> oh wow
[20:25] <kosher> Jordan_U_bak: nnow I get no such device:  {long guid}
[20:25] <kosher> Jordan_U_bak: this is the other drive I tried
[20:26] <cmdrhenner>  i`m new to motion, is there a way to use motion on videofiles? i've got gigs of videofiles from a doorcam of a serverroom, where i want to detect motions
[20:26] <thozethingz> My Intel Desktop board does not support linux drivers for the use of its integrated RAID controller ... can I use MDADM to setup a RAID without the use of the integrated RAID controller?
[20:26] <Jordan_U_bak> kosher: That makes sense, as sdb has a grub installation which is looking for the /boot/grub/ directory on sda (by UUID).
[20:27] <kosher> Jordan_U_bak: should I try reinstalling with just this drive attached?
[20:27] <gozon> aaas, the folder has a lock pic and i dont know how to move it...is in the temp directory
[20:27] <thyagu> hi
[20:27] <aaas> gozon a loc pic?
[20:27] <Jordan_U_bak> thozethingz: Yes, and it's recommended to use mdraid instead of FakeRAID in any case.
[20:27] <gozon> yes
[20:27] <Jordan_U_bak> kosher: Which drive, sda?
[20:27] <thozethingz> is mdraid different than mdadm?
[20:27] <kosher> Jordan_U_bak: the one that was SDB but now is the only drive
[20:27] <aaas> gozon ah are you doing this from a file manager or the console/teriminal?
[20:28] <Jordan_U_bak> thozethingz: No.
[20:28] <kosher> Jordan_U_bak: will wiping all of the partitions clear out the grub stuff?
[20:28] <thozethingz> Jordan_U_bak ... thank you for this information
[20:28] <SirShmoopy> hello, is it possible to install ubuntu on a hdd that is not intended for the hardware at hand? I.E. installing it on a modern machine and transplanting the drive to an older box?
[20:28] <Jordan_U_bak> kosher: Yes, that could be worth a try. I assumed that you wanted Ubuntu installed to what was sda (when you ran boot info script).
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> SirShmoopy  yes, you can clone it, type !clone to find out how
[20:29] <SirShmoopy> !clone
[20:29] <Jordan_U_bak> thozethingz: You're welcome. If you want to install Ubuntu to an mdraid array you'll need to use the alternate install CD.
[20:29] <gozon> aaas, would you tell me how to do it in the terminal?
[20:29] <Jordan_U_bak> !alternate | thozethingz
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> SirShmoopy  there's also clonezilla
[20:29] <aaas> gozon yes it's probably easier, and better for you to learn in the long-run... open up a terminal
[20:30] <thozethingz> Jordan_U_bak ... what is the "alternate install CD" ?
[20:30] <gozon> aaas, tell me the command :D
[20:30] <aaas> gozon  where is your patch file?  Downloads?  Desktop?
[20:30] <gozon> aaas,  downloads
[20:30] <Jordan_U_bak> thozethingz: See the message from ubottu.
[20:30] <Shano56> Newbie question, I am looking to add a line to ~/.bashrc
[20:30] <Shano56> How would I go about doing this
[20:30] <aaas> gozon which directory are you in:  'pwd'
[20:30] <aaas> gozon your home directory?
[20:30] <kosher> Jordan_U_bak: originally, yes but it's ok.  I am going to try this other drive. It's installing now from my USB to the SDB, which is now SDA since it's the only drive.  Will let you know in a few moments :)
[20:31] <gozon> aaas, i am in bin directory right now
[20:31] <aaas> gozon type: cd ~
[20:31] <aaas> gozon cd Downloads
[20:31] <sw0rdfish> hey what does this mean? "_tkinter.TclError: no display name and no $DISPLAY environment variable"
[20:31] <aaas> gozon now it says ~/Downloads?
[20:31] <thozethingz> Jordan_U_bak & ubottu ... perfect ... thank you so much
[20:31] <gozon> aaas, yes
[20:32] <aaas> gozon : 'sudo cp diff_webcamstudio.patch /usr/bin'
[20:32] <aaas> gozon if no error then 'cd /usr/bin/'
[20:32] <diddledan> sw0rdfish, it means the DISPLAY environment variable doesn't exist, which is set when you're in the Graphical Environment
[20:33] <Jemmm> So um do I wait my turn or just state my problem
[20:33] <kosher> Jordan_U_bak: ok install done, rebooting
[20:33] <Jordan_U_bak> thozethingz: You're welcome (and ubottu is just a channel bot :)
[20:33] <IdleOne> Jemmm: just ask and if someone can help they will
[20:33] <diddledan> sw0rdfish, you could try to fake it by typing `env DISPLAY=:0 /path/to/your/app`
[20:34] <Jordan_U_bak> Jemmm: Just state your problem :)
[20:34] <Jemmm> Oh ok well I installed Jolicloud on my computer, When I boot up windows the mic works fine but everytime I boot back to Joli it doesnt work.
[20:34] <sw0rdfish> diddledan, k thanks will give it a try.
[20:34] <kosher> Jordan_U_bak: same issue but now it's back to the error about hd0
[20:35] <gozon> aaas, i guess it moves the patch
[20:35] <kosher> Jordan_U_bak: hd0 cannot get c/h/s values
[20:35] <IdleOne> Jemmm: unfortunately Jolicloud is not supported in this channel. I suggest you try their forums
[20:35] <gozon> aaas, let me check
[20:35] <kosher> Jordan_U_bak: could it be some driver issue?
[20:35] <aaas> gozon do: 'cd /usr/bin'  then 'ls diff_webcamstudio.patch'
[20:35] <Jemmm> Oh ok thanks
[20:36] <gozon> aaas, is there
[20:36] <IdleOne> Jemmm: there is a #jolicloud but it does not seem very active
[20:36] <aaas> gozon ok make sure you're in /usr/bin and do 'patch -p1 < diff_webcamstudio.patch'
[20:36] <Jemmm> I'm in it now but nothing
[20:37] <lillina99> ciao
[20:37] <lillina99> !list
[20:37] <Jordan_U> kosher: This problem is happening before linux starts and uses its own drivers to access the hard drive. .
[20:38] <kosher> Jordan_U: it was booting ok with windows 7 and 8
[20:38] <gozon> aaas, can't find file to patch at input line 3
[20:38] <gozon> Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
[20:38] <gozon> The text leading up to this was:
[20:38] <gozon> --------------------------
[20:38] <gozon> |--- webcamstudio.orig	2012-06-20 22:31:10.117328614 +0900
[20:38] <FloodBot1> gozon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:38] <gozon> upps
[20:40] <average_guy> is the ubuntu server .iso more or less just an Ubuntu core install?
[20:40] <ignacio> hola
[20:41] <crazyharry> what NAS is best for Ubuntu Server, I need something within $350 range
[20:41] <BluesKaj> !server | average_guy
[20:41] <deper29> i7c, I got sound back. I just compiled a new kernel and installed it. there might have been an easier way, but this worked :P
[20:41] <IdleOne> !hcl | crazyharry This might have some info
[20:42] <zykotick9> average_guy: using mini is an ubuntu "core" install ;)
[20:42] <zykotick9> !mini
[20:42] <crazyharry> IdleOne, I want to know name of NAS, Lacie is one, but it says its for MAc or PC
[20:44] <average_guy> I just installed ubuntu server + lxde to try to get lighter then lubuntu it seems lovely.  I don't see a dif.  Kernel looks the same to me.
[20:44] <angs> what is wrong with this command? sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic build-essential
[20:45] <mdunphy_> hey all
[20:45] <BluesKaj> crazyharry,  you could install NAS software on a older pc , and installing a large HDD for the data is a method many ppl use , alot cheaper than flaky commercial NASs
[20:45] <mdunphy_> my version of whois says "Unknown AS number or IP network. Please upgrade this program." --- i'm on 10.04, so i have v5.0.013. is there an easy way to get the newest one (eg the one in 12.04) without upgrading all of ubuntu?
[20:46] <crazyharry> BluesKaj, how about getting a RAID NAS, I need a complete backup of my 1TB Ubuntu System
[20:46] <BluesKaj> why raid , crazyharry ..that just complicates things
[20:46] <crazyharry> BluesKaj, also now it has 4 HDD in RAID combination, I think it will be complicated to add HDD (other than external) to it
[20:47] <angs> what is wrong with the syntax of this command? sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic build-essential    what is the correct syntax for it?
[20:47] <i7c> deper29: haha :D well good you're able to do that ;)
[20:47] <BluesKaj> i'm talking about a totally separate NAS , connected only to the network , not to any particular pc
[20:48] <crazyharry> and use a software for backup ? BluesKaj
[20:49] <crazyharry> BluesKaj, do you think this will work ? http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10476
[20:49] <BluesKaj> if you just want to backup data , you don't need a NAS
[20:50] <crazyharry> ok, BluesKaj: whats the best I should do then
[20:50] <crazyharry> I only need to backup the server
[20:50] <crazyharry> nothing more
[20:50] <trism> angs: the syntax looks correct, what is the error?
[20:50] <BluesKaj> I just use an external drive , crazyharry
[20:51] <crazyharry> BluesKaj, is there software to backup the Ubuntu then ?
[20:51] <imbezol> crazyharry: depends on your recovery time objectives and recovery point objectives
[20:51] <crazyharry> also BluesKaj, please recommend me an external 2-3TB hard drive
[20:52] <zak_> hi
[20:52] <crazyharry> I have two 2-TB WD for mac and PC, but havent used it in Linux
[20:52] <zak_> i m new  to liux , anyone can tell me please how to change permissions of a whole partition
[20:53] <SkippersBoss> zak_
[20:53] <imbezol> zak_: use chmod on the partition mountpoint if it's a linux filesystem (ext, reiser, etc..)
[20:53] <SkippersBoss> what are you trying to achive
[20:53] <Gyges> zak_, always read man chmod
[20:53] <angs> trism: this is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1073795/
[20:53] <Gyges> !man
[20:53] <zak_> i set  a partition for my mp3 , i don't know why amarok cant read my mp3 , it says that i dont have the sufficiant permissions,, which i checked , i found it set to ''root''
[20:53] <imbezol> zak_: use mount options if it's an ntfs or fat filesystem
[20:54] <trism> angs: have you run: sudo apt-get update; yet?
[20:54] <zak_> imbezol: it is an ext 3 one actually
[20:54] <BluesKaj> crazyharry, if you are just backing up your data from ubuntu directories , you can even store it on ntfs formatted drive , there's no real software required , unles of course you have vast amounts of data in workplace that' needs backup then that's totally different
[20:54] <EzeQL> how can i change the path to point to a different version of a bin ?
[20:54] <imbezol> zak_: ok. you can change the permissions of the mountpoint (while it's mounted) with chmod
[20:54] <crazyharry> BluesKaj, I need them backed up periodically, maybe once a week
[20:55] <zak_> imbezol: hehe :) it is my foirst day with linux man :) i am not quite sure i can do this :/ lol
[20:55] <imbezol> zak_: or chown to make your user own the mountpoint
[20:55] <SkippersBoss> zak_ what does your fstab file say ??
[20:55] <drag0nius> hello
[20:55] <crazyharry> does this work for Linux ? http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-My-Book-Studio/dp/B002BH3ZCU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1341348843&sr=1-1&keywords=4TB+external+hard+drive
[20:55] <BluesKaj> crazyharry, then it depends on your situation ,,is this at work , is it back up for several pcs and servers ?
[20:56] <zak_> SkippersBoss: fstab ???
[20:56] <crazyharry> BluesKaj, yes its for work, but I need only the server backed up, the Mac server has its own 4TB backup connected directly to it through FireWire 800
[20:56] <SkippersBoss> You said you have a seperate partition set up for your mp3
[20:56] <imbezol> zak_: where did you mount the partition? and how'd you do it?
[20:57] <zak_> SkippersBoss:  this is the partition i want  to change permission from root to user ''/dev/sda4 on /MP3 type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=continue,user_xattr,acl,commit=5,barrier=1,data=ordered)''
[20:57] <crazyharry> BluesKaj, No other pc needs to be backed up in this hdd, only the Ubuntu server
[20:57] <angs> trism: no, I did not run it. I have just run it, I still get the same error
[20:57] <imbezol> zak_: chown username /MP3
[20:57] <zak_> imbezol: a friend did it for me actually ..:/
[20:57] <imbezol> zak_: are there mp3s in there already?
[20:57] <trism> angs: which ubuntu version?
[20:58] <imbezol> zak_: after you change the ownership of /MP3 to your user, do an ls -al /MP3 to see who owns the files
[20:58] <zak_> imbezol: yes they are
[20:58] <zak_> imbezol: chown: changing ownership of `/MP3': Operation not permitted
[20:58] <imbezol> zak_: put sudo in front of the command
[20:58] <imbezol> zak_: sudo chown username /MP3
[20:58] <drag0nius> i've TS3 server running on startup on my Ubuntu Server, today my LAN card broke (ASUS P5KPL-CM integrated, led is orange), how do i log in locally? Last message im getting on startup is TS3 Server's "listening on"
[20:58] <angs> trism: ubuntu 12.04, uname -a > Linux beagleubuntu 3.2.0-26-omap #41-Ubuntu Thu Jun 14 18:19:55 UTC 2012 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux    is the problem ubuntu-arm related?
[20:59] <imbezol> zak_: assuming you want to change everything in there to be owned by your user....
[20:59] <imbezol> zak_: chown -R username /MP3
[20:59] <zak_> imbezol: yes i want to change everything :)
[20:59] <trism> angs: perhaps
[20:59] <imbezol> zak_: that will adjust the ownership on the files too
[20:59] <zak_> imbezol:
[20:59] <zak_> linux-zak:/home/zak #  chown zak /MP3
[20:59] <zak_> linux-zak:/home/zak #
[20:59] <BluesKaj> crazyharry, firewire is a bit old , esata to sata , is the fastest interface to use , otherwise western digital is one of the the better HDD makers IMO
[21:00] <imbezol> zak_: again with sudo in front of course
[21:00] <zak_> imbezol: ax an exemple ''drwxr-xr-x   4 root root  4096 Mar 19  2004 Iron Maiden'' all the  folders are set to root :/
[21:00] <crazyharry> BluesKaj, but when I read the specs it doesnt say Linux is supported, do you think once I format it to ext2 it should be fine ?
[21:00] <zak_> imbezol:
[21:00] <zak_> zak@linux-zak:~> sudo chown zak /MP3
[21:01] <zak_> zak@linux-zak:~>
[21:01] <imbezol> zak_: do it with the -R option after chown
[21:01] <imbezol> zak_: that will recursively set everything inside MP3 too
[21:01] <zak_> imbezol:
[21:01] <zak_> zak@linux-zak:~> sudo chown -R  zak /MP3
[21:02] <zak_> zak@linux-zak:~>
[21:02] <imbezol> zak_: check out your files now.. should be fixed
[21:02] <crazyharry> BluesKaj, so I think I will buy this one http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0041OSQB6, 3TB
[21:02] <drag0nius> guys, how do i log into Ubuntu Server locally while i have TS3 server running on startup?
[21:02] <BluesKaj> crazyharry, for what it;s worth buy an external drive that is either USB3 or sata
[21:02] <zak_> imbezol: ok hold on please :)
[21:02] <imbezol> zak_: you could also do (assuming your group name is also zak) "sudo chgrp -R zak /MP3"
[21:02] <imbezol> zak_: that will fix the group ownership
[21:03] <trism> angs: you may have better luck for support in #ubuntu-arm but if you just need the headers for that kernel: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.2.0-26-omap; should do it
[21:03] <crazyharry> BluesKaj, I dont think the PowerEdge 2900 supports USB 3.0 , just USB 2.0
[21:03] <crazyharry> its a dell server where the Ubuntu is running
[21:03] <trism> angs: I don't know what the meta package is for omap
[21:03] <zak_> imbezol: ok hold on please
[21:04] <angs> trism: thank you
[21:05] <BluesKaj> crazyharry, you can buy an ordinary hdd then buy a separate enclosure for it , I have 2 and they work great
[21:05] <zak_> imbezol: yes works great :) thank you very much :)
[21:06] <imbezol> zak_: np. just to double check.. what's the output of "grep -i mp3 /etc/fstab" ?
[21:06] <crazyharry> BluesKaj, sure if it for my home, this is for office, I dont think my boss will like patched up things ;), so you think the 4TB My book studio II will work fine with Linux ?
[21:07] <zak_> imbezol: /dev/disk/by-id/ata-HDT722520DLAT80_VD051GTF084TGL-part4 /MP3                 ext3       acl,user_xattr        1 2
[21:07] <imbezol> zak_: ok. that's probably fine.
[21:07] <BluesKaj> crazyharry,  http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=HDD+sata+Enclosures&hl=en&client=ubuntu&hs=WBW&channel=fs&prmd=imvns&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1120&bih=478&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=17180773876213341914&sa=X&ei=917zT--DI8LdqgGb04nmAw&ved=0CKIBEPMCMAE
[21:07] <BluesKaj> oops
[21:08] <BluesKaj> forgot to install tiny url
[21:08] <zak_> imbezol: is there any way to set that partition as rot in a sense that nobody has the right or can delete/create any fle /folder unless he must be a su ?
[21:08] <crazyharry> BluesKaj, please send me a complete product
[21:08] <imbezol> zak_: what's the output of "ls -ld /MP3" ?
[21:09] <crazyharry> recommend :-D
[21:09] <drag0nius> isnt there some magic key combination that takes me to login in ubuntu server?
[21:09] <drag0nius> or opens second terminal/whatever?
[21:09] <zak_> imbezol: drwxr-xr-x 151 zak root 12288 Jul  3 19:49 /MP3
[21:09] <imbezol> zak_: so that means only zak (or root) can modify the contents, but anyone can read them
[21:09] <BluesKaj> crazyharry, you can  find one on your own  just look for sata usb3 exyernal drives
[21:10] <ignacio> hola
[21:10] <ignacio> necesito ayuda muy profesional
[21:10] <ignacio> pero muy profesional
[21:10] <ignacio> algien me puede ayudar?
[21:12] <zak_> imbezol: sorry got disconnected
[21:12] <zak_> imbezol: but i can delete files , eventhough i am not a superuser ! stange
[21:12] <imbezol> zak_: only as the user "zak" because you own the files
[21:12] <imbezol> zak_: if you logged in as another plain user, you could not delete the files
[21:12] <imbezol> zak_: it's probably best that way so you can manage the music collection
[21:13] <imbezol> zak_: ie.. delete songs you don't want anymore, add songs, etc
[21:13] <imbezol> zak_: the chown command is "change owner" and we changed it to zak
[21:13] <zak_> imbezol: even if it is me  i dont  wanna be able to delete files only if iam a su, the aim, is i want to be risk free to delete files ''accidently''
[21:14] <imbezol> zak_: then you should change them back to root
[21:14] <zak_> imbezol: then amarok will not be able to read the mp3 :/
[21:14] <imbezol> zak_: if the directory is rwxr-xr-x as you posted, and owned root and group root, you can still read them
[21:14] <kosher> Jordan_U: I just installed and booted FreeBSD 9 without any issues.
[21:15] <subz3r0> hi folks
[21:15] <imbezol> zak_: try this... "sudo chown -R root:root /MP3 ; find /MP3 -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; ; find /MP3 -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;"
[21:15] <zak_> imbezol: trust me i was able before the change we made i wonder if i can set permission to the whole partition as  root , and as user  for files to be able to  play them in amarok
[21:15] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I am using gnome classic and I want to remove empathy, but when I try to do that it says I have to remove gnome-core... why?
[21:15] <imbezol> zak_: then they will all be owned by root, but readable by anyone
[21:16] <imbezol> zak_: actually.. need sudo on each step
[21:16] <imbezol> zak_: run three separate commands
[21:16] <zak_> imbezol: chmod: changing permissions of `/MP3/Space Art/Space Art 1977/Space Art 1977': Operation not permitted
[21:16] <subz3r0> have a small issue with my netbook... sometimes when i boot the system, i can not set the FULL brightness which the netbook supports... (used the fn-keys) when i reboot again, it works. any suggestions what that could be? Its rly annoying... :/
[21:16] <imbezol> zak_: "sudo chown -R root:root /MP3", then "sudo find /MP3 -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;" , then "sudo find /MP3 -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;"
[21:18] <zak_> imbezol:
[21:18] <zak_> zak@linux-zak:~> sudo chown -R root:root /MP3", then "sudo find /MP3 -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;" , then "sudo find /MP3 -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
[21:18] <zak_> chown: invalid option -- 't
[21:18] <imbezol> zak_: just do the part inside the quotes one at a time
[21:19] <imbezol> zak_: there are three separate commands there, each starting with sudo
[21:19] <OerHeks> zak those are 3 commands
[21:19] <zak_> ah ok :)
[21:19] <zak_> sorry :/
[21:21] <zak_> imbezol: 1st ans 2nd  command work great but i got nothing for the last one
[21:22] <zak_> imbezol: yes now it is  done
[21:22] <imbezol> zak_: that's fine.. it won't output anything unless it has problems
[21:22] <zak_> imbezol: i should have waited some sconds since i got more than 10000 mp3 :)
[21:22] <imbezol> zak_: try rescanning your collection with amarok now
[21:22] <zak_> imbezol: ok hold on
[21:23] <jase_> hi getting major crashes on ubuntu 11.10 whats the best way to check logs to try and find out whats happening
[21:24] <zak_> imbezol: works great ,) i can not delete files as user from that partition, and amarok plays them all :)
[21:24] <Kevino> hello if i running 3.2.14 ppa kernel, which version would be the current upstream vervion?
[21:24] <Kevino> version*
[21:25] <imbezol> zak_: good stuff
[21:25] <zak_> imbezol: thank you very much man :)
[21:25] <imbezol> zak_: np. :)
[21:25]  * zak_ thinks he  has a loooooooooooooooot of things to learn in linux :)
[21:26] <zak_> what is the strange while moving from windows to linux is the feeling you get that you are quite unable to manipulate linux command line ../ and i hate that feeling :/
[21:28] <zak_> but i loooooooooooooover linux :)
[21:28] <qhartman> Has anyone else running chrome on 12.04 noticed weird behavior since 20 came out? I'm having trouble with the amazon cloud player and the AWS S3 interface specifically. I've also noticed a few cases of things seemingly not rendering correctly on random other sites.
[21:28] <ratcheer> zak_: We all do.
[21:29] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Can I remove empathy without removing gnome-core?
[21:29] <zak_> ratcheer: heh :) the pb is the day you decide to migrate from  windows to linux ,  that day , you have to leave back  all what one learned in windows , and start the new experience  from the start :)
[21:30] <zak_> anyone , thank you guys for all  your efforts :) imbezol thank you very much again , bye
[21:30] <fozilla> qhartman: I have only had problems with some flash sites
[21:32] <qhartman> fozilla, okie, thanks for the input.
[21:35] <Jordan_U> kosher: If I made you a CD image would you be able to try booting it and doing some tests?
[21:35] <stefan> Hi
[21:35] <kosher> Jordan_U: sure, no problem
[21:35] <stefan> Did anyone use xubuntu
[21:36] <kosher> Jordan_U: that would be great actually.  What's on it?
[21:36] <ratcheer> stefan: Not I.
[21:36] <Shano56> hey..is the person i was just talking to on query here? :)
[21:37] <kristenREUHREO> hi, I have a ssh shell on a remote linux computer, from a linux computer. What would be the easiest way to get a graphical interface (sort of vnc or teamviewer) from there ?
[21:37] <danub> hey all. is there a way to make ssh logins quicker? i seem to have a 5 second delay between putting in my username and when i get prompted for a password
[21:37] <Jordan_U_bak> kosher: Super GRUB2 Disk beta, which is based on GRUB 2.00.
[21:37] <kosher> Jordan_U_bak: excellent...
[21:38] <Miguelito> Hey I notice that when I play C&C online that it takes over my audio and even when I close it I dont get my audio back for other sources - any suggestions
[21:38] <Jordan_U_bak> kosher: I'm on a terrible connection at the moment, so I may drop out (and it's why I'm using two different nicks, one is my persistent client from my computer at home, the other is webchat from where I am now).
[21:38] <BluesKaj> kristenREUHREO, by remote do you over the internet or on a local network ?
[21:38] <BluesKaj> do you mean
[21:39] <kristenREUHREO> BluesKaj: over the internet, through the already active ssh connection
[21:39] <kosher> Jordan_U_bak: no worries.  Is there a link I can grab it from, or do you have to build it up?
[21:39] <kosher> Jordan_U_bak: in case your connection nukes and I have to bail, I am going to message you my email.
[21:39] <Miguelito> I shouldnt have to restart to restore my audio...
[21:40] <kristenREUHREO> kristenREUHREO: something simple, that doesn't require restarting the remote computer, nor using a new ssh connection
[21:41] <danub> hey all. is there a way to make ssh logins quicker? i seem to have a 5 second delay between putting in my username and when i get prompted for a password
[21:41] <Shano56> is there a command to open a folder/directory in terminal ?
[21:41] <danub> Shano56: you mean graphically? or just get into the directory?
[21:42] <beandog> danub: it's probably hanging on some authentication method.  If you wanna pastebin output of 'ssh -v <foo>' we can look at it
[21:42] <Shano56> graphically
[21:42] <Shano56> i know you can cd to change to that directory, just trying to open the directory
[21:42] <danub> beandog: im using putty from a windows system to connect to my home linux system
[21:42] <beandog> danub: oh. -__
[21:42] <beandog> well then I dunno
[21:43] <danub> Shano56: beats me. never tried doing that
[21:43] <danub> beandog: ill try it from a different machine at work
[21:43] <OerHeks> Shano56, " nautilus ~/Documents/ " opens the folder as you like
[21:43] <kristenREUHREO> so as anyone set up vnc or any similar remote desktop software successfully before ?
[21:44] <Miguelito> No suggestions for restoring audio?
[21:45] <danub> beandog: you were right. its trying publickey authentication
[21:45] <Jordan_U_bak> kosher: http://jordanu.dyndns.org/tmp/super_grub2_disk_hybrid_2.00s1~git.iso First try the "List devices/partitions" option and tell me what happens (assuming that you get to a proper grub menu).
[21:45] <joallard> How do I name a kernel something else than -custom?
[21:45] <BluesKaj> kristenREUHREO, you could try ssh  -X in the comman string
[21:45] <Miguelito> okies guess i will reboot
[21:45] <kosher> k grabbing
[21:46] <kosher> then grubbing ;)
[21:46] <kristenREUHREO> BluesKaj: that doesn't provide a remote desktop view, but just the ability to run graphical software remotely
[21:47] <danub> brb, going to see if turning off pub worked
[21:48] <kosher> ok download finished
[21:49] <schultza> im having a problem with cups not talking to windows after a reboot (im guessing a shutdown of windows and it's printer is causing this issue)... but i'm here to see if anyone knows of this issue
[21:49] <danub> nope, that didn't fix it
[21:49] <schultza> first is this the channel for cups troubleshooting?
[21:50] <danub> if it is cups specific, try ##cups
[21:51] <schultza> thank you
[21:51] <danub> anytime
[21:52] <ejv> Hello, I'm running apcupsd on 10.04 LTS, kernel version 2.6.32-41-server, and my dmesg is filled with "Control queue full" messags. `apcacces` is not responding, and I'm unable to restart the service via upstart or init.d. What do I do to fix this?
[21:53] <danub> ejv: manually kill it and start it?
[21:54] <ejv> it won't respond to a kill -9
[21:54] <lip> sudo?
[21:54] <danub> does it say <defunct> nex to it?
[21:54] <ejv> ps aux: root     28392  0.0  0.0  21456   708 ?        Ds   21:49   0:00 /sbin/apcupsd
[21:55] <danub> and a 'sudo kill -9 28392' wont kill it?
[21:55] <ejv> using sudo or su to root to kill the process both do no work
[21:55] <ejv> correct
[21:55] <danub> do a 'ps -ef|grep 28392'
[21:55] <danub> maybe its attached to another process
[21:56] <ejv> it returns my grep command and the /sbin/apcupsd line
[21:57] <danub> ok, no parent. hmm... aside from a reboot, not sure what you can do
[21:58] <ejv> yea i've tried that when I first noticed it, it just starts happening again almost immediatley
[21:58] <danub> k, gimme a sec
[21:58] <ejv> and I can't keep cycling the server, I have several VM's and database daemon's running, can't afford the downtime
[21:59] <danub> have a problem with your UPS?
[21:59] <demifuror> guys, can brasero burn dual layer dvds? mine stopped at 50% and went to finializing...been stuck on that screen for 15 mins or so?
[21:59] <ejv> without the apcaccess, I can't monitor the brick
[21:59] <danub> if you do 'acpaccess status' do you get anything back?
[22:00] <ejv> yes: Error contacting apcupsd @ localhost:3551: Connection refused
[22:00] <danub> lol
[22:00] <ejv> this was working *several* kernel versions ago, probably last year.
[22:00] <ejv> circa 10.04.2 or .3... I don't remember.
[22:01] <ejv> if this is some systemic failure of 10.04 in general, I will schedule the downtime and bump to 12.04, perhaps a 3.0+ kernel will fix this?
[22:01] <danub> ok, i found an article about this problem, gimme a sec to finish reading it
[22:02] <ejv> else, if this is a low level USB comms failure (I have no idea how to troubleshoot at the USB hardware level) I will order a replacement board. I just need to be sure.
[22:02] <ejv> or if it's the brick, I can order a replacement for that... sigh.
[22:03] <danub> ejv, what is the kernel version your running?
[22:03] <ejv> < ejv> Hello, I'm running apcupsd on 10.04 LTS, kernel version 2.6.32-41-server
[22:03] <danub> hmm, ok , hold a few more seconds
[22:04] <Gremlyn> hi all, I have two 10.04.4 LTS servers, one old and one new, and I am intending to rsync from old to new (migrating to a new hosting company). both servers are fully up to date as of right now, but each is listing a different kernel, and my efforts thus far have been unsuccessful to bring either server on to a new kernel version. I have the new kernel installed, and even seems like it is the only installed kernel, but I can't get iehter to USE 
[22:04] <ejv> i would ask in #ubuntu-server, but that chan is worthless, nobody ever talks there.
[22:05] <Gremlyn> ^
[22:05] <raven> how to write a script that counts the time between two times grep finds a keyword in a textfile?
[22:05] <ejv> Gremlyn: that actually wasn't directed at you, just my frustration with my current problem. Sorry.
[22:05] <Gremlyn> no no, I was just agreeing with you :)
[22:05] <ejv> ah :)
[22:06] <ejv> by the way Gremlyn, your qestion got cut off after "USE"
[22:06] <|Long|> hi have anyone here used irssic apps?
[22:06] <ejv> s/qestion/question/
[22:06] <danub> ejv: do you have apccontrol running? i see the 10.04 version referenced alot in these articles i'm coming across
[22:06] <Gremlyn> raven you could  echo $time > file; grep whateverl echo $time >> file
[22:06] <ejv> I have no idea what apccontrol is, so I don't think so
[22:07] <Gremlyn> ejv, "USE the new kernel" was the rest
[22:07] <danub> ejv: 'locate apccontrol' and see if you get any results.
[22:07] <Gremlyn> raven, s/whateverl/whatever;/ :)
[22:08] <Gremlyn> raven, obviously you would need to define what $time is
[22:08] <ejv> there are some docs and config files for apccontrol, but it's not running if it's a binary
[22:09] <ejv> Gremlyn: are the servers identical in terms of hardware? a dist-upgrade should align them to the same version (theoretically)
[22:10] <danub> raven: between 2 in the same file or in multiple files?
[22:10] <Gremlyn> ejv, they are virtual servers on different hosts
[22:10] <Gremlyn> so likely not 100% identical
[22:11] <Gremlyn> I tried dist-upgrade
[22:12] <danub> ejv: haven't come across a solution for it yet. its related to either a USB disconnect (try disconnecting the USB UPS,power down, move to a different port, and reboot?) and/or 10.04 (try upgrading?)
[22:12] <dalek_> PLEASE Need Help/Advice!!   If I install NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.35-pkg1.run according to the instructions given by nvidia here - http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-173.14.35-driver.html - is it going to work with Ubuntu 12.04? Since it is now impossible to install nvidia driver 173 from the additional hardware app...
[22:12] <ejv> Tue Jul 03 00:15:07 UTC 2012  apcupsd 3.14.6 (16 May 2009) debian startup succeeded
[22:12] <ejv> Tue Jul 03 21:49:05 UTC 2012  apcupsd exiting, signal 15
[22:13] <ejv> so it was online and working for about 22 hours... then failed. :\
[22:13] <raven> Gremlyn how does that command work?
[22:13] <Gremlyn> ejv, tells me everything is up-to-date
[22:14] <danub> raven: checking time between greps for words in the same file or multiple files?
[22:14] <ejv> Gremlyn: kernel version is less significant than your software versions (in my opinion), perhaps you're being too cautious?
[22:14] <Gremlyn> ejv, entirely possible?
[22:14] <raven> danub i produce this word with watch periodically and i now need to switch from watch to an intelligent script
[22:14] <Gremlyn> this is my first server migration
[22:15] <Gremlyn> dalek_, can't install it through normal proprietary drivers install on 12.04?
[22:15] <ejv> Gremlyn: what packages do you rely upon?
[22:15] <Gremlyn> basic lamp stuff
[22:15] <danub> raven: perl would probably be your best bet, but i still don't quite understand what you are trying to do
[22:15] <raven> danub so there is no "real" location this word is all the time but there is a file sometimes this word appears
[22:15] <ejv> danub: I appreciate you looking, looks like I'm back at square one. :\
[22:16] <Gremlyn> nothing fancy at all ejv
[22:16] <Gremlyn> I guess I could just try it and see what happens
[22:16] <Gremlyn> the new server is a blank slate, so not a big deal if I have to reinstall
[22:16] <dalek_> Gremlyn, there is no longer any support for it under proprietary drivers. Support for version 173 ended with Ubuntu 11.10
[22:16] <danub> raven: ahh, ok, i think i understand. so sometimes, in 1 file, a certain word will show up. you just want to have a log of when that word shows up in that file
[22:16] <danub> raven: correct?
[22:16] <ejv> just don't use any linux "LAMP" packages from the web, use your ubuntu repos :)
[22:16] <Gremlyn> oh gotcha dalek_, why nto use the newer driver? some issue with it for your build?
[22:16] <raven> danub i just shall calculate my watts out of the time
[22:17] <raven> danub yes nearly exactly
[22:17] <dalek_> Gremlyn, 173 IS the newest available driver for my video card (onboard in a laptop - non replaceable)
[22:17] <danub> raven: ok, give me a second and i will pastebin you a quick script.
[22:17] <raven> danub wait
[22:17] <danub> raven: yes?
[22:18] <chrisirc> How does one choose the disk to install to in the Ubuntu 10.10 installer?
[22:18] <chrisirc> It complains about not enough disk space available but didn't even ask me where to install to (and it can erase the whole disk!)
[22:18] <chrisirc> s/can/may/
[22:19] <Gremlyn> dalek_, nothing concrete to offer, but this might help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/147330/ubuntu-12-04-doesnt-resume-after-install-nvidia-drivers
[22:19] <ejv> are you using the advanced sectino of the gparted installer?
[22:19] <ejv> s/sectino/section/
[22:19] <ejv> it may be called "Manual"
[22:19] <ejv> I would look into that so you can control the install location.
[22:20] <Anxi80_> If i made changes to /usr/share/applications/defaults.list will future possible software updater updates try to overwrite them like they do with /etc/gnome/defaults.list?
[22:20] <raven> danub i am still not sure how to do the calculation then i need to bridge the gap from a trigger points (grep, gap of 5 to 60 seconds between the "triggers") to a fixed periodically currency output of a script
[22:20] <raven> -then +because
[22:21] <bekks> Anxi80_: Most likely yes.
[22:21] <Anxi80_> bekks, is their a better way of customizing my default apps that protects my settings?
[22:21] <kosher> Jordan_U: for some reason this freebsd install is taking forever.  I will ping you after I get this CD booted.
[22:21] <danub> raven: so you want the script to constantly run, never sleeping? or you want it to run, sleep x #_of_seconds, check again?
[22:21] <Shano56> anyone use cinnamon?
[22:22] <bekks> Anxi80_: You could pursue the update-alternatives mechanisms to protect your own configs.
[22:22] <IdleOne> Shano56: cinnamon is off topic for this channel
[22:22] <dalek_> Gremlyn, judging by that post, looks like support for 173 driver MIGHT be coming later... and it sounds like it MIGHT be possible to build the drivers from the .run file? Do you think it would hurt my system if I went ahead and tried it?
[22:22] <Shano56> my bad
[22:23] <Anxi80_> bekks, thanks
[22:23] <Gremlyn> dalek_, I imagine it would be recoverable should it fail miserably, so it's either try it and see, wait for the potential release of 173, and stick to the ubuntu drivers...
[22:23] <Gremlyn> all depends on how capable you feel about fixing things should it break
[22:24] <dalek_> Gremlyn, the problem with using the nouveau drivers is they are worse than useless with this particular nvidia card. :(
[22:24] <raven> danub no it has to run all the time. perhaps it woulld be possible to start the script when the trigger appears so the script only has to do the calculation from time to current. but the script also has to have a fixed output periode. for example to output the value every 60 seconds to a txt file. from this file another api takes this data. its the try to attach a sensor to the project www.volkszaehler.org its a metering tool
[22:24] <Gremlyn> sounds like you need to give it a shot then
[22:25] <Gremlyn> I always look at that kind of thing as a new adventure in linux, dalek_ :D
[22:25] <danub> raven: im going to msg u
[22:25] <enapupe> HI, I need some help to increase my SWAP, i`m already on a live key with gparted http://i.imgur.com/iKtcv.png
[22:26] <Pecker> enapupe: sounds like you need to make room for a bigger swap
[22:26] <Pecker> altho why you need mroe than 2 GB swap idk
[22:27] <Gremlyn> enapupe, why do you need to increase swap?
[22:27] <enapupe> Gremlyn: new memory ram comming
[22:27] <Gremlyn> if you're swapping 2GB, you're doing something wrong...
[22:27] <enapupe> Gremlyn: i`ll be with 8gb
[22:27] <Gremlyn> your swap doesn't HAVE to be the same size
[22:27] <enapupe> Gremlyn: i`m almost not using swap
[22:27] <enapupe> acually I just set the swapiness to 10
[22:28] <enapupe> but IF i want to hibernate it wont work, right?
[22:28] <bekks> enapupe: Whats your RAM size, and whats your swap size?
[22:28] <Gremlyn> does hibernate write to swap?
[22:28] <bekks> Gremlyn: Sure.
[22:28] <Gremlyn> never thought of that as a possibility
[22:28] <enapupe> bekks: currently 4gb ram 2gb swap
[22:29] <bekks> Gremlyn: Thats the only place to store something recoverably :)
[22:29] <enapupe> bekks: tomorrow 8gb ram
[22:30] <bekks> enapupe: you could create a swap file with 8.1G, insert it into your fstab and you'll be fine.
[22:30] <Gremlyn> enapupe, I would delete the existing swap, move sda6 and sda4 forward, and wgile you're at it shop of a piece of one of them
[22:30] <Gremlyn> going to take a WHILE
[22:30] <enapupe> bekks: have you seen the screenshot?
[22:30] <enapupe> the perfect scenario would be resize down sda1 (which i`m using only 10%) and add to swap
[22:31] <Gremlyn> oh, but your swap is a logcial partition in sda3
[22:31] <bekks> enapupe: then create backups before and do it.
[22:31] <Gremlyn> what is each drive?
[22:31] <enapupe> bekks: backup sucks
[22:31] <enapupe> but i need to merge both ntsf too
[22:31] <Gremlyn> sda1 = / ? sda6 = /home?
[22:32] <enapupe> Gremlyn: yes
[22:33] <beandog> When he says AWHILE, he means HOURS
[22:33] <bekks> enapupe: then create a backup of ntfs#1 and #2, delete #2, enlarge #1, copy over all files from your backup of #2. THEN, continue resizing, etc., after having a new backup handy.
[22:33] <beandog> Moving partitions with data around takes forever
[22:33] <bekks> beandog: Not on here.
[22:33] <andybrine> evening everyone
[22:33] <andybrine> is anyone here from the uk?
[22:33] <enapupe> ntfs is shitty windows, i can erase everything withoout problem
[22:34] <enapupe> my urgent goal is to resize swap
[22:34] <Gremlyn> enapupe, if you wanted to completely overhaul, here is what I would do: cut down sda1 to 35-50 GB, copy sda2 contents to sda4, move sda6 up behind sda1, cut out your swap after sda6, and have the ntfs at the very end
[22:34] <Gremlyn> but that is going to take some time to complete
[22:34] <beandog> You could just make a new swap file, instead of a partition
[22:34] <beandog> dunno how smart that is in *practice*, but you can do it.
[22:34] <bekks> beandog: thats what I told him already.
[22:35] <enapupe> i want to accomplish the correct way, increase the size of my current swap shirnking sda1, is this possible
[22:35] <enapupe> ?
[22:35] <beandog> bekks: oh okay, sorry, came in half way :)
[22:35] <bekks> enapupe: yes. as I told you.
[22:35] <enapupe> (sorry about my keyboard, it`s missconfigured)
[22:35] <Gremlyn> swap doesn't have to be a logical partiton, it can be standalone with something you cut off sda1
[22:36] <Gremlyn> or logical of sda1
[22:36] <bekks> Gremlyn: it has to be a partition at least :)
[22:36] <beandog> how much RAM do you have right now?  And how much swap?
[22:36] <Gremlyn> well, yeah :P
[22:36] <escott> bekks, you can have swap files, but hibernating to them is tough
[22:36] <beandog> You really wouldn't need any more than 1-2 GB of swap in almost any condition
[22:36] <beandog> Because, freak, if you're swapping 1 GB of data, you're in a painful situation.
[22:36] <bekks> escott: at least its a chance.
[22:37] <trying2code> i replaced my login desktop-login.ogg from /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo
[22:37] <bekks> beandog: hibernating ALWAYS goes to swap...
[22:37] <enapupe> the thing is not swapping ram, is hibernation
[22:37] <trying2code> but it doesnt play anymore
[22:37] <ejv> i have 0GB of swap, it's glorious.
[22:37] <beandog> bekks: it doesn't *have* to, but  yah ... good point.
[22:37] <enapupe> i`m not swapping any ram, i`m OK
[22:37] <beandog> man
[22:37] <bekks> And 1G swap is nuts nowadays.
[22:37] <enapupe> ejv: how do u hibernnate
[22:37]  * beandog missed half the picture
[22:37] <enapupe> ?
[22:37] <beandog> I'll just sit out this one. :)
[22:38] <ejv> enapupe: I don't hibernate. :)
[22:38] <ejv> for bears only.
[22:38] <enapupe> ...
[22:39] <Pecker> is linux hibernation any better than windows hibernation?
[22:39] <Gremlyn> trying2code, what do you mean 'replaced'?
[22:39] <beandog> Pecker: it works reasonably well, most of the time
[22:40] <beandog> Pecker: really though, it depends on your hardware, how good the drivers are, how recent your kernel is, etc.  But most of the time, yah, it'll work fine
[22:40] <dubcl> hi, i'm looking for an unification filesystem, like unionfs or aufs, any alternative?
[22:40] <bekks> dubcl: no.
[22:40] <Daghdha> Is it possible to move an app from 1 workspace to anouther?
[22:40] <beandog> dubcl: yah, mhddfs
[22:40] <beandog> dubcl: uses fuse
[22:41] <Pecker> Daghdha: right lcik app, say move to other workspace?
[22:41] <Pecker> in did that change in 12.04
[22:41] <Pecker> or*
[22:41] <Daghdha> THanks Pecker. I find that realy unintuitive
[22:41] <Daghdha> 3rd time i had to ask
[22:41] <Gremlyn> Daghdha, right click the title bar of the program, there are optins to do just that
[22:41] <Gyges> i used aufs
[22:41] <dubcl> beandog, but mhddfs detect when a device is full?
[22:41] <Pecker> with a busy channel soemtimes we dotn see questions
[22:42] <beandog> dubcl: yah, it automatically splits them to the drive with space
[22:42] <Daghdha> is it also possible to disable all these zoomy effects?
[22:43] <Daghdha> I open the workspace chooser and it zooms in slowly, i want that to be there instant.
[22:43] <Pecker> that would be a compiz thing
[22:43] <Daghdha> IEw.. last time i ran that it all went haywire
[22:43] <Pecker> nice
[22:43] <dubcl> beandog, thanks, I'll try
[22:44] <Daghdha> Pecker: Any config file i can edit to do the same?
[22:44] <beandog> good luck
[22:45] <Saer> Hi everyone, looking for help if able, I was doing a backup of my server via rsync/ssh when it locked up, after reboot I'm left with the error: Init: Failed to spawn friendly-recovery post-stop process: unable to execute: permission denied  (This occurs even in recovery mode) I've tried several things to troubleshoot and searched a bit with no luck, booted with recovery cd and was able to mount
[22:45] <Saer> the raid on /target and all my files are there, not sure where to go from here to try and repair
[22:45] <Pecker> idk abotu cfg files
[22:46] <Pecker> the manager works fine for me
[22:46] <Pecker> !compiz
[22:46] <Daghdha> Well, last time i usedit i had to restore a backup.
[22:47] <beandog> Saer: unmount it and run a fsck
[22:47] <Daghdha> I'm not 1000% sure it was caused by that but i am not willing to risk it. I will learn tolive with the stupid animated zoom effects. :P
[22:47] <beandog> Saer: or, while mounted, look at the system logs to see what stands out
[22:47] <dubcl> beandog, was what I looking for, thanks
[22:47] <Daghdha> Or, as you should call them, slow-effects :)
[22:47] <Pecker> ok then
[22:47] <beandog> dubcl: awesome. :)
[22:48] <Daghdha> Thanks for the help Pecker.
[22:49]  * Shano56 is away: I'm busy
[22:49] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell Shano56 about away
[22:49] <Shano56> eee
[22:49] <Shano56> my bad wrong button
[22:49] <Shano56> still trying to get used to xchat
[22:50] <Saer> I ran fsck and it found no issues
[22:50] <Saer> kernel log just has that same error as the last entry
[22:50] <lawltoad> how do I get eclipse to pick up /usr/share/java/ for jars in ubuntu?
[22:51] <beandog> Saer: pastebin it
[22:51] <beandog> Saer: and surrounding context
[22:51]  * Shano56 is away: be back later
[22:51] <Shano56> :/ i am confused
[22:52] <coberbilgisayar> sa hi
[22:53] <cndiv> Hey #ubuntu, can someone help me out understanding a forum post? I'm experencing this exact problem but don't know how to follow the advice on this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2006289&highlight=macbook+air+5%2C2
[22:53] <cndiv> it says to edit the boot options but I don't know how to do that
[22:54] <gr33n7007h> Does Adobe Shockwave work on Linux?
[22:55] <shazzr> Is it possible to use a Hauppauge Win-TV NOVA-T USB stick on Ubuntu 12.04 at all? I can't get mine to work...
[22:55] <escott> cndiv, assuming you can boot fully run: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub; then modify that line, and run update-grub
[22:56] <gr33n7007h> shazzr, yes it's possible
[22:56] <cndiv> I can't boot fully, this is on a brand-new macbook air, the install disc just hangs
[22:56] <marsfligth> Ubuntu 12.04 says that login password is invalid. What to do? (the password typed is correct)
[22:58] <escott> cndiv, at some point during the install disk boot you can press a key to get boot options and a menu. you can add kernel arguments at that point
[22:58] <gr33n7007h> shazzr, I watch mine through Mplayer
[22:58] <escott> cndiv, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing_the_CD.27s_Default_Boot_Options
[22:58] <cndiv> awesome! I'll give that a shot, thank you
[22:58] <beandog> gr33n7007h: no to shockwave
[22:58] <deper29> marsfligth, password is probably wrong? are you using a dvorak keyboard or something like that?
[22:59] <gr33n7007h> beandog, Thanks for the input bk
[22:59] <shazzr> gr33n7007h: How?
[23:00] <marsfligth> deper29: The password is correct and the keyboard works perfectly, I tested it on user name field
[23:00] <deper29> marsfligth, caps lock?
[23:00] <gr33n7007h> shazzr, create a channel.conf using w_scan here's the command: w_scan -ft -c GB -X -R N -O N >> channels.conf
[23:01] <beandog> that was gonna by my next guess
[23:01] <marsfligth> deper29: no, absolutelly
[23:02] <gr33n7007h> shazzr, change the -c flag to your country code ie if in the states US
[23:03] <shazzr> gr33n7007h: I'm in Norway. So I guess it should read NO?
[23:03] <marsfligth> deper29: It is a big problem because I can't acces to my home files because I used an encripted filesystem for all my home
[23:03] <deper29> marsfligth, but you can login?
[23:03] <gr33n7007h> shazzr, yes
[23:04] <shazzr> gr33n7007h: Not sure what to do afterwards though....
[23:04] <marsfligth> deper29: no, Ubuntu says that the password is not correct
[23:05] <gr33n7007h> shazzr, it'll take a while to create channels.conf but when it's finished copy the channels.conf into the mplayer dir: cp channels.conf ~/.mplayer/channels.con
[23:06] <deper29> marsfligth, I can get you back in I think, but you would lose anything encrypted
[23:06] <gr33n7007h> shazzr, it'll take a while to create channels.conf but when it's finished copy the channels.conf into the mplayer dir: cp channels.conf ~/.mplayer/ then : mplayer dvb://
[23:07] <shazzr> gr33n7007h: I might be out of luck. I don't think we have a signal for the kind of reciever where I am right now.... :(
[23:07] <shazzr> gr33n7007h: "ERROR: Sorry - i couldn't get any working frequency/transponder"
[23:08] <marsfligth> deper29: With a live cd I have full acce to all system exept '/home/myname'. So, I think that all about login and password should be in '/etc'
[23:08] <gr33n7007h> shazzr, you could try kaffeine
[23:08] <newbie|2> I have a Nokia E71 Phone, how can I copy files from PC to phone using Ubuntu + USB Cable?
[23:09] <deper29> marsfligth, yes, it would be encrypted though. your password isn't in plain text anywhere
[23:09] <deper29> marsfligth, no chance your username is wrong?
[23:09] <shazzr> gr33n7007h: Think I've done that already. No luck with that one either. I will bring the stick with me to a place where I KNOW there is coverage and try what you mentioned there....
[23:09] <newbie|2> !nokia
[23:09] <deper29> marsfligth, otherwise I'd say it's safe to assume someone changed your password
[23:10] <gr33n7007h> shazzr, sure
[23:10] <newbie|2> !nokia phone copy files
[23:10] <Jordan_U> newbie|2: Does it have an option to act as a "USB Mass Storage Device"? While that has some downsides (doesn't allow you to access the files on your SD card from the computer and the phone at the same time) it's easy and works universally.
[23:10] <newbie|2> ?
[23:11] <newbie|2> i dont know?
[23:11] <shazzr> gr33n7007h: Thank you anyway. :)
[23:11] <newbie|2> i want to copy a file from PC to my Nokia E71, how do I do it?
[23:11] <gr33n7007h> shazzr, np
[23:11] <newbie|2> how do I install Network Manager on Ubuntu?
[23:12] <deper29> newbie|2, it should be installed already
[23:12] <OerHeks> !wammu
[23:12] <OerHeks> !info wammu
[23:13] <marsfligth> deper29: I'm afraid that has been me following a guide to manage 'samba' users an passwords. The strange is that I haven't touched the 'root' and my account, I worked only on 'nobody' etc
[23:13] <kristenREUHREO> I'm really struggling to set up a vnc or a similar technology to get a remote desktop. I have been trying different software and solutions for the past hours with no luck. I really need help. My situation is pretty simple. I have a computer (A) that is connected through ssh on a remote computer (B) and I would like to get a remote desktop on B. Both use ubuntu desktop edition.
[23:14] <deper29> marsfligth, do you have the root account enabled?
[23:14] <marsfligth> no
[23:16] <kristenREUHREO> can someone help me to setup vnc please ?
[23:18] <marsfligth> deper29: I am afraid that I'll have to format all and loose all data and settings
[23:18] <deper29> marsfligth, no, you won't have to do that.
[23:19] <deper29> marsfligth, look into konboot
[23:20] <escott> kristenREUHREO, the easiest thing is ssh -X which would allow B to view one off gui applications running on A
[23:20] <kristenREUHREO> escott: yes I know, but I would want to see the whole desktop rather than just one application
[23:20] <kristenREUHREO> escott: and as a matter of fact I'm interested in one application that is already running on B.
[23:21] <marsfligth> deper29: konboot? Never heard
[23:21] <deper29> marsfligth, you should be able to hack into your system using that. you won't have access to your home folder but you won't have to reformat
[23:21] <kristenREUHREO> escott: (I'm KristenB by the way, the nickname was taken :))
[23:21] <escott> kristenREUHREO, then you need to install a vnc server on A. vino or Xvnc. and depending on the connection (if this is home to work) you might have to tunnel some ports
[23:22] <kristenREUHREO> escott: I already installed the vnc server.
[23:22] <marsfligth> deper29: I'll try it
[23:22] <kristenREUHREO> escott: and I already installed the vnc client on A as well (vinagre, but I can use another want if you want me to)
[23:23] <kristenREUHREO> escott: but I just can't manage to connect to the vnc server.
[23:23] <deper29> marsfligth, let me know how it works
[23:23] <escott> kristenREUHREO, how are you trying to connect to that vnc server?
[23:23] <escott> kristenREUHREO, what port and address is it trying to hit?
[23:24] <kristenREUHREO> escott: I've tried so many things I can't remember. But one of them was I think to do       ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 B        on A, and then  connect with the vnc client with localhost:5900
[23:25] <NewLappy> vexus1, are you the person that was helping me earlier with uefi questions?
[23:27] <escott> kristenREUHREO, is that the correct port? does netstat -ltn show it listening on B
[23:27] <kristenREUHREO> escott: and if I do that I get an error by the vnc client saying 'an error occurred: connection to host 127.0.0.1 was closed'. and at the remote host I get "channel 3: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused"
[23:28] <saori> hello!
[23:28] <NewLappy> hello saori
[23:28] <kristenREUHREO> escott: it shows it's listening on 22.
[23:29] <escott> kristenREUHREO, did you start vino on B?
[23:29] <kristenREUHREO> escott: I don't know
[23:29] <kristenREUHREO> escott: Isn't vino the graphical vnc client to be executed on A?
[23:30] <kristenREUHREO> escott: I installed vncserver on B, and that's it, I think
[23:30] <saori> I have a new install of 12.04 desktop 32 bit, and I can't get my media keys to have any effect. I checked and the keys are properly bound n the keyboard settings page. What else might help me fix/troubleshoot this?
[23:30] <escott> kristenREUHREO, you need to start the server on B. and it needs to use the display localhost:0
[23:31] <Jordan_U> saori: Try running "xev" and with the xev window in focus try pressing one of the media keys and see if it registers as an event (you'll have to watch the output in the terminal).
[23:31] <kristenREUHREO> escott: I don't have vino installed on B, I think
[23:31] <escott> kristenREUHREO, B is the remote you want to view right? so B needs to have a VNC server running. A would have the client
[23:32] <kristenREUHREO> escott: What I've done is x11vnc -safer -localhost -nopw -once -display :0
[23:32] <kristenREUHREO> escott: and I thought that would start the vnc server
[23:32] <kristenREUHREO> escott: yes, that's right, I want to view B from A, B is the server, A the client.
[23:32] <escott> kristenREUHREO, if it did then it should appear in netstat -ltn
[23:34] <kristenREUHREO> escott: oh ok maybe it was stopped. I tried to launch it again. this time, when I use the vnc client, for the first time it seems to connect. But I get a black screen.
[23:34] <gozon> what is the command to remove a ppa in the terminal?
[23:34] <escott> kristenREUHREO, does the remote host have the screensaver running?
[23:35] <saori> Jordan_U: It does pop up with distinct events for each key.
[23:35] <kristenREUHREO> escott: i don't think so, but that's not entirely impossible. I tried moving the mouse or sending keys, it still stays black.
[23:35] <ceti331> can anyone recomend a KDE based distro .. kubuntu or linux mint 12kde - which will be best?
[23:36] <extor> How on earth do I make a sudo user
[23:36] <extor> I have console access as root but unable to ssh as root and there are no sudo users
[23:36] <NewLappy> ceti331, a question like that is bound to get a biased response in a room such as this
[23:36] <dax> ceti331: You're in #ubuntu, so people will say Kubuntu. imho, Linux Mint is a waste of time, and Debian testing or Gentoo work fine.
[23:36] <kristenREUHREO> escott: maybe it's a issue related to the display numbers? I never understood that stuff so maybe the setup was wrong. I just used :0 wherever I was asked to.
[23:37] <NewLappy> extor, what exactly are you trying to do?
[23:37] <marsfligth> deper29: I'm searching for'KON-BOOT', but it seems working only on m$ and apple. Probably I made some mistake
[23:37] <NewLappy> extor, if you are in a console, but want to ssh as root at a remote machine, try ssh root@machine
[23:37] <ceti331> better question: my unity had broken since i was essing with effects; is there a way to reset it
[23:37] <eoss> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+do+you+create+a+user+with+root+priviledges%3F
[23:37] <escott> kristenREUHREO, what does -safer do?
[23:37] <ceti331> unity broke since i used ccsm to mess with desktop cube etc...
[23:37] <deper29> marsfligth, you have 64 bit?
[23:37] <kristenREUHREO> escott: -safer where?
[23:38] <subz3r0> ceti331, unity --reset
[23:38] <escott> kristenREUHREO, in your x11vnc command. you have -safer
[23:38] <kristenREUHREO> escott: I don't know it's just a command I've seen somewhere (I think on the ubuntu help website) and I just copy pasted it.
[23:39] <escott> kristenREUHREO, take it out. i also think -once is default.
[23:39] <ceti331> thanks
[23:39] <ceti331> are there known bugs in 12.04 - mine is has been very glitchy; i'll reboot just incase the reset fixes it, but i suspect it was always a bit off
[23:39] <escott> kristenREUHREO, :0 is the first X server that runs. the one on tty7. in some cases you would start a second X server on tty8 (rare but some people do it), ssh tunnel interfaces also establish their own :# addresses
[23:40] <kristenREUHREO> escott: ok I removed both and restarted the server; it still stays black
[23:40] <kristenREUHREO> escott: but there's already a server running, this is a desktop computer, so it has its own server for local purposes, no?
[23:41] <escott> kristenREUHREO, thats the limit of my vnc knowledge. you could look at !vnc. seems the connection is working, but maybe the vnc is in view only and not control mode so you cant kill the screensaver
[23:42] <kristenREUHREO> escott: how about setting it with qtnx? I'm also having problems with that one.
[23:43] <escott> kristenREUHREO, thats NX which is different. doesn't (so far as im aware) let you take ownership of an existing X session.
[23:43] <kristenREUHREO> kristenREUHREO: I just don't know what to input in the client, it asks for name/password but I'm using public keys to connect
[23:43] <kerry> hello everybody, I am having problems with a Lenovo S10-3 and 12.04
[23:43] <kerry> wifi is not working
[23:43] <kerry> someone else with this issue
[23:44] <kerry> I found in google a lot of bugs in older distributions
[23:44] <trism> kristenREUHREO: which desktop environment? you may need -noxdamage (for x11vnc)
[23:44] <trism> kristenREUHREO: (if by 'it still stays black' means you can connect but don't see anything in the vnc client)
[23:45] <marsfligth> deper29: yes I do ...
[23:45] <kristenREUHREO> kristenREUHREO: what do you mean, the desktop environment ? like unity or gnome for example ?
[23:45] <ceti331> thanks that appears to have worked
[23:45] <kristenREUHREO> trism: what do you mean, the desktop environment ? like unity or gnome for example ?
[23:45] <trism> kristenREUHREO: yes, if you are using unity-3d you will probably need that arg
[23:45] <ceti331> note to self,dont use desktop cube with unuty
[23:45] <marsfligth> deper29: I foud a torrent,I'll try it
[23:45] <marsfligth> *found
[23:46] <deper29> marsfligth, kk
[23:46] <korbel> so I am trying to install ubuntu alternative and do full disk encryption, but I do not see the option in the installer. Am I missing something?
[23:46] <escott> !alternate | korbel
[23:46] <korbel> Fedora has it on the disk partitioning screen
[23:46] <korbel> yes escott, I am using alternate
[23:47] <kristenREUHREO> trism: I tried it but it still stays black.
[23:47] <trism> kristenREUHREO: no idea then, sorry
[23:48] <marsfligth> deper29: the problem is that to me is very late, and I'll test it tomorrow, then I can't inform you about the result
[23:48] <escott> korbel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FullDiskEncryptionHowto
[23:49] <chrisirc> What about non-english documentation? I'm looking for german.
[23:49] <RyuGuns> Is it possible to log out of a user account you're not currently in?
[23:51] <deper29> marsfligth, okay, that's cool. I'm sure someone will be online tomorrow who can help :P
[23:51] <deper29> marsfligth, once you log on you should be able to just change your password
[23:51] <escott> RyuGuns, what does that mean
[23:51] <Guest77836> Hi room, anyone have any experience with resolving kernal panics on a fresh 12.04 install?
[23:52] <RyuGuns> i hav another user account logged into i need to logout it of but i need can no switch
[23:52] <RyuGuns> can i log out from this account ?
[23:54] <escott> RyuGuns, still can't understand what you are asking. you might try your native language channel
[23:54] <marsfligth> deper29: should fantastic. Thanks for helping me. Se you
[23:54] <deper29> marsfligth, have a good one
[23:54] <flymac> ...sorry, let me try that again....
[23:54] <flymac> Hi room, anyone have any experience with resolving kernal panics on a fresh 12.04 install?
[23:55] <subz3r0> flymac, no
[23:55] <andrewaclt> flymac, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging
[23:55] <RyuGuns> escott: what about my naive language?
[23:55] <subz3r0> never had any :)
[23:56] <escott> RyuGuns, you clearly aren't a native english speaker. what is your first language? what do you speak at home?
[23:56] <RyuGuns> ill give my friend his compute so he can translte for me brb
[23:56] <flymac> thanks andrewaclt
[23:57] <spacebug-> gnome/unity (12.04) only shows the sound input from one of my soundcards while KDE shows them both. The output from both cards is shown though. Why?
[23:57] <xezexal> how do I change my ubuntu version from katya to precise?
[23:57] <kristenREUHREO> escott: what did you mean when you said !vnc ?
[23:58] <escott> !vnc | kristenREUHREO
[23:58] <subz3r0> xezexal, katya is an ubuntu version? guess not... u cant "upgrade" from mint to ubuntu
[23:58] <kristenREUHREO> escott: well I already looked at that page, it's how I got the commands I talked about.
[23:58] <xezexal> so to Maya?
[23:59] <subz3r0> ubuntu != mint
[23:59] <xezexal> because I updated all the repos.......
[23:59] <subz3r0> backup your stuff and do a fresh installation would be the best way
[23:59] <RyuGuns> ok i fix it thanks anyways tho