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| * SpamapS is getting even closer to generic monitoring now.. :-D | 02:25 | |
| SpamapS | I wonder if there is an open source real user monitoring package | 02:26 |
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| imbrandon | yes | 02:29 |
| imbrandon | the one newrelic uses is open source too | 02:29 |
| imbrandon | they are all based on the same lib from a google employee | 02:29 |
| imbrandon | SpamapS: there is also jiffy and mod_pagespeed, probably the most used though is the one google analytics and newrelic use called epsiodes http://stevesouders.com/episodes2/ | 04:37 |
| SC-RM | I have deployed maas on a server and trying to deploy new servers from this one, but all my new instances have instance-state: unknown | 06:15 |
| SC-RM | any ideas of where and what to look at? | 06:15 |
| imbrandon | all i wanted was a pepsi, just one pepsi, and she wouldent give it to me ... | 07:57 |
| jamespage | bbcmicrocomputer, morning | 08:47 |
| jamespage | moring all! | 08:47 |
| bbcmicrocomputer | jamespage: morning | 08:48 |
| jamespage | bbcmicrocomputer, fancy having a stab at the solrcloud charm? Apache just alpha'ed Lucene and Solr 4 | 08:48 |
| jamespage | and we already have a nice zookeeper charm.... | 08:48 |
| bbcmicrocomputer | jamespage: sure, am already working on the existing Solr charm to add dynamic core/db hookups | 08:49 |
| bbcmicrocomputer | jamespage: assign the ticket to me :) | 08:49 |
| jamespage | bbcmicrocomputer, bug assigned - have fun! | 09:24 |
| jamespage | looks interesting | 09:24 |
| bbcmicrocomputer | jamespage: cool, thanks | 09:24 |
| bbcmicrocomputer | jamespage: yeah it's pretty cool being able to distribute Solr.. although they still don't do distributed idf, so you have to be careful how you distribute your documents amongst servers | 09:26 |
| jamespage | bbcmicrocomputer, have you looked at solandra at all? | 09:28 |
| bbcmicrocomputer | jamespage: only briefly | 09:28 |
| jamespage | bbcmicrocomputer, I did a while ago | 09:29 |
| jamespage | but not recently | 09:29 |
| jamespage | it looking interesting | 09:29 |
| bbcmicrocomputer | jamespage: yeah that is quite cool using the Cassandra backend | 09:32 |
| jamespage | bbcmicrocomputer, the last solr deployment I did had a multi-master configuration across data centres | 09:32 |
| bbcmicrocomputer | jamespage: that is pretty impressive! | 09:33 |
| jamespage | we ended up using reliable message queues to ensure consistency between active site application and both masters | 09:33 |
| jamespage | but it was complex | 09:33 |
| jamespage | I think solrcloud and solandra both solve that issue more effectively.. | 09:34 |
| bbcmicrocomputer | jamespage: yeah, sounds like it would | 09:34 |
| freeflying | does Juju support use specific instance when deploy a charm | 09:52 |
| jamespage | freeflying, specific instance or specific instance type? | 10:21 |
| freeflying | jamespage: instance type I meant, sorry | 10:22 |
| jamespage | freeflying, in which case the answer is yes | 10:22 |
| * jamespage digs 'contraints' documentation out | 10:22 | |
| jamespage | freeflying, take a look here - https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/constraints.html | 10:23 |
| freeflying | jamespage: saying I want deply hadoop, can I have master deployed with one type, and slave with another type instance? | 10:23 |
| jamespage | freeflying, yep - take a look at http://markmims.com/cloud/2012/06/04/juju-at-scale.html | 10:24 |
| jamespage | this is some testing we did with hadoop + juju at scale | 10:24 |
| jamespage | the master is deployed on m1.large and the slaves on m1.mediums | 10:24 |
| freeflying | jamespage: yup, just get there, very nice, thanks | 10:25 |
| jamespage | freeflying, note that we have a few 'hadoop' charms in the charm store ATM | 10:25 |
| jamespage | use 'hadoop' rather than any of the others - there is a bug outstanding to get that resolved. | 10:25 |
| jamespage | freeflying, and pester me if you have any issue - I wrote it :-) | 10:25 |
| freeflying | jamespage: very neat :) | 10:26 |
| jamespage | freeflying, I need to write an in-depth blog post on using the hadoop charm - the README has quite a bit of info | 10:27 |
| jamespage | http://jujucharms.com/charms/precise/hadoop | 10:28 |
| jamespage | it has lots of deployment topologies... | 10:28 |
| freeflying | jamespage: at first glance, its a complex charm :) | 10:28 |
| jamespage | freeflying, its certainly more complex than some | 10:29 |
| jamespage | it uses a late binding technique to decide what role a service is playing as its related to other deployments of the hadoop service | 10:29 |
| freeflying | jamespage: but for many devops, they don;t need dig into the charm itself, just use it, get their workload fullfilled | 10:30 |
| jamespage | freeflying, +1 to that | 10:30 |
| freeflying | jamespage: thats the magic of juju :) | 10:30 |
| jamespage | absolutely | 10:30 |
| imbrandon | freeflying: wow, long time since I've seen your face round , how ya been :) | 10:31 |
| imbrandon | heya jamespage | 10:31 |
| jamespage | imbrandon, hey - just looking at you nginx charm | 10:31 |
| freeflying | imbrandon: doing pretty well, how about you | 10:31 |
| imbrandon | jamespage: ahh its ummmm, functional , still many rough edges but i wanted to get others eyes on it | 10:32 |
| imbrandon | :) | 10:32 |
| imbrandon | freeflying: good good, more juju than kde these days :) | 10:32 |
| freeflying | imbrandon: yep, some of the irc logs tells that obviously | 10:33 |
| * imbrandon is actualy writing a proof-of-concept jitsu replacemnt/arch rewrite , heheh dunno how its gonna fly tho | 10:34 | |
| freeflying | imbrandon: it sounds cool | 10:34 |
| imbrandon | gonna run it by SpamapS and maybe jamespage this morning and see what they think | 10:35 |
| imbrandon | :) | 10:35 |
| imbrandon | mmmm lp:~imbrandon/+junk/pepsi | 11:18 |
| imbrandon | fooooood time , afk | 11:19 |
| jamespage | imbrandon, what is the container scoped website relation for in the nginx charm? | 11:38 |
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| jml | Is there a way I can get a postgresql service to give me a db & creds without a charm that relates to it? | 12:44 |
| jml | Just wondering if I can spin one up to poke at while I'm figuring some things out | 12:44 |
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| hazmat | jamespage, there's a juju-jitsu deploy-to | 14:16 |
| hazmat | oh.. | 14:17 |
| hazmat | jamespage, solandra is dead, its folded into datastax enteprise along with brisk | 14:18 |
| jamespage | hazmat, thought it might be | 14:27 |
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| SpamapS | jml: you want to run the relation hook without an actual relation? | 15:00 |
| jml | SpamapS: pretty much, yes. | 15:00 |
| SpamapS | jml: you could deploy a subordinate to the pgsql box .. pgclient or something like that | 15:00 |
| jml | Hmm. | 15:00 |
| SpamapS | jml: seems a bit silly tho.. why not just deploy a dummy charm and simulate w/ debug-hooks? | 15:00 |
| jml | SpamapS: "just" | 15:01 |
| SpamapS | charm create dummy | 15:01 |
| SpamapS | add relation | 15:01 |
| SpamapS | deploy, debug-hooks | 15:01 |
| jml | SpamapS: I ended up installing postgresql server on my laptop | 15:01 |
| jml | SpamapS: there's a bunch of stuff on my laptop that would be tedious to move over to a new juju instance | 15:02 |
| SpamapS | jml: bind mount in the LXC might help.. right? | 15:05 |
| jml | SpamapS: yeah. | 15:08 |
| jml | SpamapS: although my original motivation was convenience (hey, juju makes it easy for me to set up a throw-away postgres db, right?). as is, it's turned out to be less convenient. | 15:10 |
| jml | SpamapS: which isn't such a big deal. it's probably just not the right tool for the job. | 15:10 |
| SpamapS | why did it turn out to be less convenient? | 15:14 |
| SpamapS | jml: was it just less convenient because you couldn't type 'sudo su postgres' to become the admin? | 15:15 |
| jml | 'sagi -y postgresql; sudo -u postgres createuser -s -d jml; sudo -u postgres createdb -O jml udd' | 15:16 |
| SpamapS | jml: because 'juju ssh postgres/0 -t sudo su - postgres' is about the same :) | 15:16 |
| SpamapS | jml: indeed, that is easier if you don't mind having it native and such | 15:16 |
| jml | SpamapS: right. I don't mind having it native. I'd prefer not to, but I can live with it. I certainly prefer it to having the *client* machine being another instance, which involves all sorts of tedious copying of source and data files. | 15:17 |
| jml | or worse, remote editing | 15:17 |
| SpamapS | right forget the client being a juju box.. | 15:18 |
| SpamapS | jml: I think just deploying, and running the same sudo stuff via juju ssh is fine | 15:19 |
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| hazmat | jml, you can invoke a relation hook in a non relation hook context, but outside of any hook context? | 16:39 |
| hazmat | oh.. you want the data | 16:40 |
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| SpamapS | hrm.. config-get seems to have no way to print out an empty string properly | 22:43 |
| SpamapS | if I specify a single value that is an empty string it should just print the string of bytes, not '' | 22:43 |
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