| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: technically you don't need to click computer on kubuntu :P | 00:14 |
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| JontheEchidna | My ~/.kde was made when you did :P | 00:14 |
| apachelogger | doesn't matter, that is regular kiosk ,so you must have set it manually at some point | 00:15 |
| skreech_ | kiosk? | 00:16 |
| apachelogger | confic cascading | 00:25 |
| apachelogger | *config | 00:25 |
| skreech_ | ah thought that kiosktool was revived | 00:25 |
| apachelogger | that was just a gui to create the configs | 00:26 |
| apachelogger | (a rather unmaintainable gui IMHO) | 00:26 |
| skreech_ | Yeah but GUI can be helpful | 00:26 |
| skreech_ | See Also: KDE | 00:26 |
| apachelogger | effort > use | 00:27 |
| skreech_ | Yeah hence why it stopped being maintained but I wasn't convinced that the idea of a front end for it should die | 00:27 |
| apachelogger | doing that reasonable would require every app to install some sort of config specification file | 00:27 |
| apachelogger | also kiosk'd configs would need to be kconf_updated which makes it a whole lot more complicate | 00:28 |
| skreech_ | Perhaps a simpler concept such as documentation presentation and a test framework | 00:29 |
| skreech_ | kinda like an IDE for configs | 00:29 |
| apachelogger | you still do not know what the app calls their config entries | 00:29 |
| apachelogger | that is the one and only problem | 00:29 |
| apachelogger | amarok 2.6 may have [General]\nFoo=bar and the very same functionality in amarok 2.7 may be [General]\nBar=foo | 00:30 |
| apachelogger | configs are not considered a shared resource so an app may do whatever they want | 00:31 |
| skreech_ | It does have [General] | 00:31 |
| skreech_ | and if the application/KonfigIDE is simply showing the documentation for the configs for the app then each app would maintain it's own usability | 00:32 |
| apachelogger | that is what I said? no? :P | 00:32 |
| apachelogger | <apachelogger> doing that reasonable would require every app to install some sort of config specification file | 00:32 |
| skreech_ | and there would possibly be a bridge between knowing that configs can be tweaked and actually getting the skills to doing so | 00:32 |
| apachelogger | such that config entries are "exported" and known to the outside | 00:33 |
| apachelogger | for example to an IDE | 00:33 |
| skreech_ | but is there a market or demand for that? | 00:33 |
| skreech_ | do few people use the KIOSK framework because they don't know they can use it or cause there is no use for it? | 00:34 |
| littlegirl | There's definitely a use for it. | 00:35 |
| skreech_ | Yeah I've always thought so | 00:36 |
| skreech_ | Schools and (HTGIRL) Kiosks come to mind | 00:37 |
| littlegirl | Exactly, and even if it's just a few people, I'm sure they appreciate it. (: | 00:37 |
| apachelogger | <apachelogger> effort > use | 00:38 |
| skreech_ | littlegirl: Scratch your own itch :) | 00:38 |
| * littlegirl is scratching | 00:38 | |
| littlegirl | Itch: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-q-docs | 00:39 |
| skreech_ | however for pretty much all (sometimes FOSS) projects require someone to drag it within arms reach of someone else before the effort to reach out and scratch becomes tempting | 00:39 |
| littlegirl | Luckily that can be done. (: | 00:40 |
| apachelogger | halp! | 00:40 |
| apachelogger | kbd out of battery | 00:40 |
| skreech_ | \o/ | 00:40 |
| apachelogger | time to buy a new one | 00:40 |
| * littlegirl hands apachelogger a pen | 00:40 | |
| skreech_ | PLug in the kbd | 00:40 |
| littlegirl | Hmmm, the Launchpad Bazaar server for the Ubuntu core docs seems to be down. I'm getting a 503 error. Is it just me or is it that way for you guys, too? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc | 00:52 |
| skreech_ | No it's 503ing | 00:58 |
| skreech_ | 500 HTTP errors are normally a server screwup | 00:58 |
| littlegirl | Should I wait to push a commit until it's all better? | 00:59 |
| skreech_ | That would be the safe thing to do | 01:02 |
| skreech_ | Get some batteries for apachelogger in the meant time | 01:02 |
| * littlegirl runs to WalMart for Apachelogger | 01:02 | |
| littlegirl | All better. (: | 01:15 |
| utu-san | is 4.9 RC1 being skipped? | 01:20 |
| skreech_ | By who? | 01:36 |
| littlegirl | Is the System Tray an application? | 01:39 |
| skreech_ | it's a plasmoid | 01:41 |
| littlegirl | I don't think they have a plasmoid DocBook element yet. (: | 01:41 |
| skreech_ | :-) | 01:50 |
| Riddell | tere | 07:09 |
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| Riddell | anyone remember what happened to the restrictedInstall patches in amarok and dragon? | 11:39 |
| debfx | replaced by gstreamer integration of qapt | 12:05 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:19 |
| Riddell | debfx: aah | 12:48 |
| Riddell | afiestas_: is apol still around? | 12:52 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: now that's a weird one I haven't had before in #kubuntu, let me know if he becomes a problem | 13:32 |
| BluesKaj | he's behind a proxy ..keeps complaining about crappy sound , but guess he was just trying to get traffic to some porn site , Riddell | 13:36 |
| shadeslayer | ... | 13:37 |
| Riddell | yeah if he posts again well kick him | 13:37 |
| BluesKaj | right | 13:37 |
| Riddell | posts a pointer | 13:37 |
| * apachelogger dereferences | 13:48 | |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, that weird one has agreed not to post anymore porn sites | 14:09 |
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| skreech_ | hi Blizzz | 19:54 |
| skreech_ | Hi BluesKaj | 19:54 |
| BluesKaj | hi skreech_ | 19:56 |
| skreech_ | apachelogger: Someone just asked me. I'm guessing from the topic you are the person to ask about KTP progress? | 20:08 |
| apachelogger | skreech_: progress? | 20:08 |
| skreech_ | as in is it stalled? or has showstopper bugs? | 20:09 |
| skreech_ | for 0.4 packages | 20:09 |
| apachelogger | we do have 0.4 packages | 20:13 |
| apachelogger | not sure we have them for 12.04 tho | 20:13 |
| ScottK | We are even in sync with Debian. | 20:13 |
| skreech_ | Ok | 20:15 |
| skreech_ | I jsut looked on the Kubuntu news page to see if they were announced | 20:15 |
| Riddell | we don't have a tradition of announcing kde-telepathy packages | 20:18 |
| Riddell | (since it's a new thing to package) | 20:18 |
| Riddell | but try this PPA https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-telepathy | 20:18 |
| Riddell | they're nice people, they bought me dinner and beer this evening | 20:19 |
| Riddell | calligra have offered to do the same tomorrow, I'm so easily bought | 20:19 |
| Riddell | ScottK: a Jeroen from kolabsys has been namedropping you | 20:20 |
| ScottK | Oh? | 20:20 |
| ScottK | What'd I do? Was it good? | 20:20 |
| Riddell | exchange e-mails I think | 20:21 |
| ScottK | Ah. Could be. | 20:21 |
| ScottK | Yes. It appears we've exchanged emails on postfix-users. | 20:22 |
| skreech_ | :-) | 20:31 |
| skreech_ | Thanks Riddell. I'll see if I can purchase you a beer sometime | 20:40 |
| Riddell | cool :) | 20:44 |
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