[00:14] JontheEchidna: technically you don't need to click computer on kubuntu :P [00:14] My ~/.kde was made when you did :P [00:15] doesn't matter, that is regular kiosk ,so you must have set it manually at some point [00:16] kiosk? [00:25] confic cascading [00:25] *config [00:25] ah thought that kiosktool was revived [00:26] that was just a gui to create the configs [00:26] (a rather unmaintainable gui IMHO) [00:26] Yeah but GUI can be helpful [00:26] See Also: KDE [00:27] effort > use [00:27] Yeah hence why it stopped being maintained but I wasn't convinced that the idea of a front end for it should die [00:27] doing that reasonable would require every app to install some sort of config specification file [00:28] also kiosk'd configs would need to be kconf_updated which makes it a whole lot more complicate [00:29] Perhaps a simpler concept such as documentation presentation and a test framework [00:29] kinda like an IDE for configs [00:29] you still do not know what the app calls their config entries [00:29] that is the one and only problem [00:30] amarok 2.6 may have [General]\nFoo=bar and the very same functionality in amarok 2.7 may be [General]\nBar=foo [00:31] configs are not considered a shared resource so an app may do whatever they want [00:31] It does have [General] [00:32] and if the application/KonfigIDE is simply showing the documentation for the configs for the app then each app would maintain it's own usability [00:32] that is what I said? no? :P [00:32] doing that reasonable would require every app to install some sort of config specification file [00:32] and there would possibly be a bridge between knowing that configs can be tweaked and actually getting the skills to doing so [00:33] such that config entries are "exported" and known to the outside [00:33] for example to an IDE [00:33] but is there a market or demand for that? [00:34] do few people use the KIOSK framework because they don't know they can use it or cause there is no use for it? [00:35] There's definitely a use for it. [00:36] Yeah I've always thought so [00:37] Schools and (HTGIRL) Kiosks come to mind [00:37] Exactly, and even if it's just a few people, I'm sure they appreciate it. (: [00:38] effort > use [00:38] littlegirl: Scratch your own itch :) [00:38] * littlegirl is scratching [00:39] Itch: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-q-docs [00:39] however for pretty much all (sometimes FOSS) projects require someone to drag it within arms reach of someone else before the effort to reach out and scratch becomes tempting [00:40] Luckily that can be done. (: [00:40] halp! [00:40] kbd out of battery [00:40] \o/ [00:40] time to buy a new one [00:40] * littlegirl hands apachelogger a pen [00:40] PLug in the kbd [00:52] Hmmm, the Launchpad Bazaar server for the Ubuntu core docs seems to be down. I'm getting a 503 error. Is it just me or is it that way for you guys, too? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc [00:58] No it's 503ing [00:58] 500 HTTP errors are normally a server screwup [00:59] Should I wait to push a commit until it's all better? [01:02] That would be the safe thing to do [01:02] Get some batteries for apachelogger in the meant time [01:02] * littlegirl runs to WalMart for Apachelogger [01:15] All better. (: [01:20] is 4.9 RC1 being skipped? [01:36] By who? [01:39] Is the System Tray an application? [01:41] it's a plasmoid [01:41] I don't think they have a plasmoid DocBook element yet. (: [01:50] :-) [07:09] tere === Guest59153 is now known as kklimonda === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [11:39] anyone remember what happened to the restrictedInstall patches in amarok and dragon? [12:05] replaced by gstreamer integration of qapt [12:19] Hiyas all [12:48] debfx: aah [12:52] afiestas_: is apol still around? [13:32] BluesKaj: now that's a weird one I haven't had before in #kubuntu, let me know if he becomes a problem [13:36] he's behind a proxy ..keeps complaining about crappy sound , but guess he was just trying to get traffic to some porn site , Riddell [13:37] ... [13:37] yeah if he posts again well kick him [13:37] right [13:37] posts a pointer [13:48] * apachelogger dereferences [14:09] Riddell, that weird one has agreed not to post anymore porn sites === fenris is now known as Guest37369 [19:54] hi Blizzz [19:54] Hi BluesKaj [19:56] hi skreech_ [20:08] apachelogger: Someone just asked me. I'm guessing from the topic you are the person to ask about KTP progress? [20:08] skreech_: progress? [20:09] as in is it stalled? or has showstopper bugs? [20:09] for 0.4 packages [20:13] we do have 0.4 packages [20:13] not sure we have them for 12.04 tho [20:13] We are even in sync with Debian. [20:15] Ok [20:15] I jsut looked on the Kubuntu news page to see if they were announced [20:18] we don't have a tradition of announcing kde-telepathy packages [20:18] (since it's a new thing to package) [20:18] but try this PPA https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-telepathy [20:19] they're nice people, they bought me dinner and beer this evening [20:19] calligra have offered to do the same tomorrow, I'm so easily bought [20:20] ScottK: a Jeroen from kolabsys has been namedropping you [20:20] Oh? [20:20] What'd I do? Was it good? [20:21] exchange e-mails I think [20:21] Ah. Could be. [20:22] Yes. It appears we've exchanged emails on postfix-users. [20:31] :-) [20:40] Thanks Riddell. I'll see if I can purchase you a beer sometime [20:44] cool :)