[00:08] <wiill> I have a hard drive question, a process is abusing I/O operations on my drive, is there any way to find out which one it is, also, it doesn
[00:08] <wiill> 't show in System Activity
[01:57] <daniel___> hello?
[02:06] <ScottyK> greetings! is there a program in KDE that one can use to mount iso's (like MagicISO in Windows)??
[02:10] <jds> AcetoneISO, Furius ISO, GmountISO
[02:12] <amason_> ScottyK: not specific to kde but if you can also do it from the cli with mount -t iso9660 foo.iso ./mount_point
[02:21] <ScottyK> amason_ - what would the mount point look like normally?
[02:24] <amason_> ScottyK: well it's just whatever directory you want it to appear as
[02:24] <amason_> like if i wanted the contents of the cd to appear in /home/bob/mycd then that would be my mount point
[02:25] <ScottyK> ah, I get it! Thanks...
[02:30] <daniel___> .
[02:31] <daniel___> greeting! is there a way to improve frame per second? I have a NVIDIA card  GTX550  and Iam getting 3 to 4 FPS in spring game.
[02:50] <DarthFrog> !nvidia | daniel___
[02:50] <daniel___> thanks
[04:15] <contrast> Greets, everyone... Does anyone here have Compiz working under KDE? I get segmentation faults when trying to start it (or CCSM).
[05:12] <OxDeadC0de> contrast: I do except I'm on 10.04 still :P
[05:12] <contrast> OxDeadC0de: Which version of KDE?
[05:12] <OxDeadC0de> 4.4.5
[05:22] <contrast> Yeah, I read something that indicated Compiz doesn't work on recent versions of KDE. I'm looking for evidence to the contrary though. :P
[05:28] <skreech_> Sysinfo for 'skreech-desktop': Linux 3.2.0-24-generic-pae running KDE Development Platform 4.8.90 (4.8.90), CPU: AMDPhenomIIX61055T at 800 MHz (5618 bogomips), HD: 1254/1402GB, RAM: 3727/3987MB, 258 proc's, 6.0d up
[05:28] <skreech_> Huh
[05:28] <skreech_> That works
[05:41] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:36] <Smurphy> Morning
[06:54] <skreech__> Morning
[06:54] <cbb> Good morning all
[06:54] <skreech__> Hello
[07:06] <ussher_> hello
[07:07] <camelot> hello..
[07:08] <cbb> Anything new anyone?
[07:11] <ussher_> like what?  got a new SSD yesterday....
[07:12] <cbb> well that is interesting, which SSD?
[07:13] <ussher_> made me laugh because my local server's drive died.  it was a 20GB drive and when i went to one store to get a replacement the smallest they had was a 2TB drive.  Got a 60GB SSD instead
[07:14] <ussher_> its an OCZ 60gb
[07:15] <cbb> so the smallest they had was a 2TB disk? was it supposed to be a system disk or+
[07:16] <cbb> i see why you bought yourself a ssd instead.
[07:16] <ussher_> the smallest HDD drive they had was 2TB.  That is a big jump in space when the 20GB wasnt close to full
[07:17] <ussher_> its just for a local server i use for testing stuff before uploading it to a live server
[07:17] <ussher_> "got nothing smaller?"
[07:19] <cbb> i am currently watching the "latest update on the higgs boson" search from cern. I got to say it is some advanced physics involved there.
[07:21] <ussher_> Just some light viewing to pass the time then...
[07:22] <cbb> What is best to use for connecting to a samba server with username and password?
[07:23] <ussher_> 'installation step failed'. hmmm.
[07:23] <ussher_> i use konqueror and smb://
[07:24] <ussher_> from memory I think you only need to set the username/password once.
[07:27] <hateball> ussher_: you can set it in system settings
[07:27] <hateball> krunner -> search for samba
[07:27] <cbb> thanks, it works great.
[07:28] <hateball> you can set default properties to use
[07:28] <hateball> oh, cbb you had the initial question :)
[07:28] <cbb> yes i did :)
[07:39] <ussher_> cbb: 'higgs boson' thats some heavy stuff.   I just watched part of a youtube video titled "Has the Higgs Boson Finally Been Found?".  the commentator says "lab scientists found hints of the higgs" just as they do a zoom in on a guy cleaning a part.  lol
[07:39] <ussher_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QG1O_EMY4I at 0:37
[07:40] <cbb> Hehe yeah, http://webcast.web.cern.ch/webcast/play_higgs.html
[07:41] <cbb> The webcast is a bit more high detailed.
[07:42] <ussher_> wow.
[07:42] <cbb> It is really interesting, do you agree?
[07:43] <ussher_> its too far above my head to comment.  i normally watch poker to waste time while stuff installs.
[07:43] <ussher_> Its nice to know someone knows that much.
[07:44] <cbb> Well yeah, it is really heavy physics....
[07:45] <ussher_> It looks like there would be some really fun and interesting stuff in there if after you had put in the effort to learn the basic less fun and interesting stuff.
[07:47] <cbb> Well the problem with physics is that you must crunch data for every time you do something, and then you have to analyze everything.
[07:48] <cbb> ussher_: there is a lot of data there.
[07:48] <ussher_> all the data in the universe.
[07:48] <cbb> pretty much
[10:53] <jds> Hey there, is it okay to install packages via apt-get as root?
[10:55] <jds> I was logged in as root (root@box:) when I install gimp. Will there be any problems?
[10:55] <jds> installed*
[10:56] <hateball> You're probably fine
[10:57] <jds> Okay thanks.
[10:59] <Husar> Someone know how to fix metalic sound on some flash sites?
[11:06] <cbb> Husar: What browser are you using?
[11:06] <Husar> Firefox
[11:06] <Husar> and the same on chromium and
[11:07] <Husar> reconq
[11:09] <cbb> Is it only on flash sites?
[11:09] <Husar> cbb: this is something with memcpy
[11:09] <cbb> memcpy? Like the copy memory function in in c?
[11:10] <Husar> cbb: Yes, prpblem is with flash aplications, ex. Sites with sexcam - metalic sounds + cant open right click menu
[11:10] <Husar> and some other for example from google finances
[11:10] <Husar> wait, i givu u link
[11:10] <cbb> sure
[11:11] <Husar> Problem looks like this one: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638477#c52
[11:11] <Husar> but this fix do not help
[11:12] <Husar> 1.  http://www.google.com/finance?q=glw - cant open right click menu
[11:13] <Husar> 2. http://showup.tv/malkox
[11:14] <Husar> metalic sound + cant open right click menu
[11:14] <Husar> youtube is working without problems
[11:14] <cbb> Has youtube converted totally to html5?
[11:14] <Husar> no, i have testing with flash
[11:15] <cbb> That is interesting, anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[11:15] <Husar> I have fresh and clean install Kubuntu 12.04, 64bit
[11:16] <cbb> Can you test something? Can you go to wimp.com . launch an video and try to maximize it, tell me what happens.
[11:16] <Husar> sure
[11:17] <Husar> no problems
[11:17] <Husar> sound good
[11:17] <Husar> + can open flash menu
[11:20] <cbb> Okay, I can't seem to figure out what the problem is here. Google finance does not really have a right click menu with a lot of choices...
[11:21] <Husar> cbb: do u check second site with video?
[11:25] <cbb> Yeah.
[11:25] <Husar> And what about metalic sounds?
[11:25] <cbb> Did not hear any.
[11:25] <Husar> hmy
[11:25] <Husar> Ar u on Kubuntu 64?
[11:26] <Husar> I will try record some videos with sound...
[12:13] <ketty> ciao
[12:14] <ketty> ubuntu o kubuntu?
[12:19] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:19] <BluesKaj> this is kubuntu support , ketty
[12:20] <Husar> BluesKaj: hi
[12:20] <BluesKaj> hi Husar
[12:21] <Husar> BluesKaj: do u notice any problems with metalic sound in flash applications?
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Husar, nor anymore than usually ,by metallic do you mean trebly ?
[12:23] <ketty> ok exist kubuntu in italian?
[12:24] <BluesKaj> not more than usual , rather Husar
[12:24] <BluesKaj> !t | ketty
[12:24] <ketty> !t
[12:24] <ketty> ?
[12:24] <BluesKaj> !it
[12:24] <Husar> yes BluesKaj
[12:24] <Husar> ar u on Kubuntu 64?
[12:25] <ketty> si.. volevo capire su ubuntu in it. si puo parlare di kubuntu?
[12:25] <ketty> !it
[12:33] <BluesKaj> Husar, yes , but when did you notice the change in your sound quality?
[12:34] <Husar> i have always this in some sites
[12:34] <Husar> ex. youtub work greate
[12:34] <Husar> i just uplaod video, will show u in 5-10min
[12:40] <BluesKaj> Husar, do you have a mic connected ?
[12:40] <Husar> no, i do not use mic
[12:40] <Husar> look for this video:
[12:40] <Husar> http://youtu.be/vEdGUP8MWTQ
[12:42] <Husar> if i play video with good sound, ALSA plug-in just not moving, but if i play video(streaming) with metalic sound, ALSA plug-in just crazy
[12:42] <BluesKaj> Husar, uhm, that url doesn't look right
[12:43] <Husar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEdGUP8MWTQ
[12:43] <Husar> + i can right click flash menu on youtube, but no in other
[12:44] <cbb> What does your error log say?
[12:55] <BluesKaj> Husar, I don't get any sound on that last youtube URL
[12:55] <jds> Do we have web (html) developers here? I got a question.
[12:56] <Husar> BluesKaj: beacuse there is no sound :D
[12:56] <BluesKaj> ok
[12:56] <Husar> I cant capture sound, dont know why
[12:57] <Husar> But u can see that is something wrong
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Husar, maybe the sound is there but just doesn't play back
[12:57] <Husar> With this girl video, i have very metallic sound
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Husar, so you say .flv files don't playback with audio , but some work on youtube with tinny sound?
[13:00] <Husar> nono
[13:01] <Husar> no audio just video, what i record my screen and upload to youtube (but this is not problem what i want to fix)
[13:01] <Husar> On this video, u can see 2 website what i testing
[13:01] <Husar> youtube + showup
[13:02] <Husar> youtube work greate, googd sound and can open flash sttings menu
[13:02] <Husar> but in showup - sound is very mettalic and i can not open flash settings menu, just show for a second, if i do right click
[13:03] <Husar> additionally, u can se on "Plaeybeck Streams" tab, that ALSA plug-in just crazy whenn i watch showup
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Husar, which browser /
[13:05] <BluesKaj> ?
[13:06] <Husar> all
[13:06] <Husar> i have testing ff, chrom and reconq
[13:08] <BluesKaj> think you have a flash problem
[13:09] <Husar> why me only? :P
[13:10] <Husar> BluesKaj: Can u check one website for sounds?
[13:12] <BluesKaj> if you wish
[13:14] <Husar> BluesKaj: http://showup.tv/Princess23
[13:14] <Husar> just check sound quality
[13:14] <Husar> (to enter, click button on left side)
[13:17] <BluesKaj> Husar, I get no sound at all
[13:18] <Husar> do u see this girl? video is playing?
[13:19] <BluesKaj> yes video , no audio
[13:19] <Husar> hmy
[13:19] <Husar> i have audio, but metallic, and this is main problem...
[13:20] <Husar> if i use windows, all is good
[13:20] <Husar> my friedns trying with arch and ubuntu
[13:20] <Husar> and sound work without problem
[13:21] <Husar> ok, what i can do... nothing
[13:22] <Husar> just can wait, and mayby someone fix this in future
[13:22] <Husar> or switch os
[13:22] <Husar> thanks for help
[13:22] <BluesKaj> Husar, maybe my audsio is blocked since i'm not in ukraine or russia
[13:22] <BluesKaj> audio
[13:23] <Husar> :D
[13:23] <Husar> im not ukraine, or russia and have sound
[13:23] <BluesKaj> because youtube flash audio works fine on everything else
[13:24] <Husar> don think that is localisation problem
[13:24] <Husar> im from ireland
[13:24] <Husar> website in poland
[13:24] <Husar> i have use sometimes french vpn
[13:25] <Husar> so... u have problem with this too
[13:26] <BluesKaj> Husar, you don't seem irish to me
[13:26] <Husar> beacuse im not ;p
[13:27] <BluesKaj> that's what i thought ...eastern european background I bet
[13:29] <jds> Was the link you posted an adult site?
[13:31] <BluesKaj> yeah it is , if you let it run long enough , it becomes rather adult
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Husar, from now don't post anymore sites like that pls ..it's against the rules.
[13:53] <Husar> ok
[15:23] <koffer> hy everyone
[15:23] <koffer> I have a problem with wine + mozbackup
[15:23] <koffer> i just migrated from windows and cant run mozbackup in wine to restore my data from my windows mozilla
[15:23] <koffer> I would appriciate the help
[15:48] <BluesKaj> koffer . what mozilla back files are you trying to access?
[15:49] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: hi
[15:50] <BluesKaj> err backup files rather . koffer
[15:50] <BluesKaj> hey phoenix_firebrd
[15:50] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: mozilla tab problem solved?
[15:52] <BluesKaj> it wasn't FF . it was pastebin widget that was at fault .. so I added the pastebin addon to the FF toolbar'
[15:52] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, ^
[15:53] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: right i remember
[15:54] <BluesKaj> but I also have pastebinit installed as well , so 2 options there
[16:04] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: can you try something?
[16:08] <BluesKaj> depends , i tried something yesterday and had to use the recovery kernel to repair the damage
[16:08] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: this is very simple
[16:08] <BluesKaj> what is it ?
[16:09] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: we need to add "-new-tab" to the application launch command
[16:10] <BluesKaj> kickoff?
[16:10] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: ya
[16:11] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: the command for firefox should be like this "firefox %u -new-tab"
[16:13] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: working?
[16:16] <BluesKaj> nope , suddnely i see why the pastebin wasn't working properly , FF isn't listed in the kickoff/internet ...I removed FF a while back in favour of a newer version , but ti didn't work out , so i reinstalled the installer but the actual application is no longer listed in kickoff ...sstrange
[16:18] <lordievader> Good evening
[16:20] <genii-around> lordievader: Good afternoon!
[16:20] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: create the new entry manually
[16:20] <lordievader> Hey genii-around how are you?
[16:21] <BluesKaj> I did , g but I have something running in FF ..wait
[16:21] <genii-around> lordievader: Fairly well, hiding in my office to avoid the sweltering heat outside, mostly
[16:40] <alexfreewalker> hello
[16:42] <lordievader> Hey alexfreewalker, how are you?
[16:42] <alexfreewalker> I am great thank you, what about you?
[16:43] <lordievader>  Quite allright
[16:45] <alexfreewalker> how good r u in fixing issues in kubuntu?
[16:46] <lordievader> alexfreewalker: Depends on the problem.
[16:47] <alexfreewalker> recently i installed the regular updates, and windows seems to be distorted from the top and some charachters are missing from the title bar
[16:48] <lordievader> alexfreewalker: Phew could be many things, what kind of graphics card do you have?
[16:48] <alexfreewalker> nVidia optimus: intel graphics controller rev 20, and nVidia 310
[16:49] <lordievader> alexfreewalker: Do you have drivers installed for those? Maybe those got corrupted.
[16:50] <alexfreewalker> i have the system installed for a year, and all the sudden things got shitted, I dont know what was the update that did this to my OS, the list is long
[16:51] <lordievader> alexfreewalker: Was there a kernel update (something like linux-image-3.2.something)?
[16:52] <alexfreewalker> le me check the log again
[16:53] <lordievader> alexfreewalker: I'm sorry I have to go, I will be back later. You might try to ask someone else though.
[16:54] <alexfreewalker> okay thx anyway
[16:59] <alexfreewalker> anybody here who can help? please??
[17:16] <sky100> hi..
[17:17] <sky100> everytime i try to install updates .. apper shows up amother instance of this application is running ...
[17:17] <sky100> another*
[17:17] <sky100> cant install any updates
[17:20] <genii-around> sky100: It usually means that the automatic updates is running in the background, so it's best to usually let it finish
[17:52] <lordievader> Good evening
[17:59] <DarthFrog> Can anyone recommend a good, simple accounting program?  I'm trying to convert a buddy to Kubuntu and he needs to replace AccountEdge on his Mac.
[18:02] <alexfreewalker> hey guyz I'm looking for help
[18:03] <genii-around> DarthFrog: The standard is pretty much gnucash. We use "ledger" at work but it's CLI
[18:03] <DarthFrog> !ask
[18:04] <alexfreewalker> okay here is the link that explains my problem in short
[18:04] <alexfreewalker> http://imagebay.us/images/5u5343y9dw9ugun46s6i.jpg
[18:05] <DarthFrog> genii-around: Thanks.  I've passed it on.
[18:07] <alexfreewalker> http://imagebay.us/viewer.php?file=5u5343y9dw9ugun46s6i.jpg
[18:07] <genii-around> alexfreewalker: "You don't have permission to access /images/5u5343y9dw9ugun46s6i.jpg on this server." Additionally a 404 error, etc
[18:08] <alexfreewalker> the UI is kinda distorted, some letters are missing, sometimes things are laggy
[18:08] <alexfreewalker> genii-around second link works
[18:09] <L3top> alexfreewalker: what is the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[18:09] <genii-around> alexfreewalker: Interesting. I had a similar issue quite a while ago but it was fixed by some updates. This happens when running gtk stuff under kde?
[18:09] <genii-around> ( firefox, etc )
[18:10] <genii-around> eg: Same issue occurs if viewing page with Konq?
[18:10] <alexfreewalker> yeah
[18:10] <alexfreewalker> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0046] (rev 18)
[18:10] <alexfreewalker> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 310M] [10de:0a70] (rev ff)
[18:10] <L3top> ding ding
[18:11] <L3top> alexfreewalker: is this a laptop with hybrid graphics?
[18:11] <alexfreewalker> yeah optimus
[18:11] <L3top> optimus
[18:11] <L3top> yeah
[18:11] <L3top> Are you using bumblebee alexfreewalker
[18:11] <alexfreewalker> i had thr OS running for a year, but before yesterday this shit happened after a massive system update
[18:12] <alexfreewalker> i cant figure which update from the log caused this
[18:12] <alexfreewalker> the log is so long
[18:12] <alexfreewalker> yeah i use bumblebee but it often fails
[18:12] <L3top> alexfreewalker: I understand. My guess would be the xorg updates. They tinkered with some fairly fundamental things. What version are you on?
[18:12] <genii-around> Probably to use the xorg-edgers
[18:13] <L3top> yeah... bumblebee is far from "good" but it is the best you got
[18:13] <alexfreewalker> 12.04 precise
[18:13] <L3top> You have been on 12.04 for a year?
[18:14] <alexfreewalker> no i started with 11. someting
[18:14] <L3top> Or did you upgrade to 1204 from what had been working for a year
[18:14] <L3top> ok
[18:14] <alexfreewalker> but 12.04 3 months ago i guess
[18:14] <L3top> Again... my guess is xserver-xorg-core
[18:15] <L3top> and 3 months ago it was good?
[18:15] <L3top> it was not until this current update?
[18:15] <alexfreewalker> yeah smooth
[18:15] <L3top> hmmm
[18:15] <L3top> I don't think anything major changed in that time
[18:15] <L3top> Let me poke around. Will be a few minutes alexfreewalker
[18:15] <alexfreewalker> i can send u the log, but its fucking long
[18:15] <IdleOne> alexfreewalker: please no cursing in here
[18:15] <alexfreewalker> unless u know waht ur looking for
[18:17] <genii-around> Mmm coffee
[18:17] <coffeeboy> so whats up
[18:17] <coffeeboy> running kubuntu 12.04 on a net book
[18:18] <coffeeboy> having difficulty getting power saving to not turn of screen when pluged in
[18:18] <genii-around> coffeeboy: I have it installed on my Acer D260 but find it unbearably slow there
[18:18] <Atak> chillin
[18:18] <alexfreewalker> genii-around: how did u manage to fix the thing with the fontd and graphics?
[18:18] <Atak> im running mint at the moment
[18:18] <coffeeboy> Seems to run snapy on my Acer EEpc1005peb
[18:19] <genii-around> alexfreewalker: It resolved itself after some system updates
[18:19] <alexfreewalker> coffeeboy: power managment sucks on 12.04
[18:19] <coffeeboy> I agree
[18:19] <coffeeboy> are there any work arounds
[18:19] <genii-around> alexfreewalker: I do have some PPAs however, like the xorg-edgers one and some others
[18:20] <coffeeboy> On another note happy 4th to all US peeps
[18:21] <coffeeboy> It is realy hot out today
[18:21] <alexfreewalker> coffeeboy: 11.04 was the best so far, if u want to, u can install it and freeze the update, turn off everything related to system and security updates and it would be the best
[18:22]  * L3top has had great success with 1204, including power management.
[18:22]  * L3top also knows he is in the minority
[18:22] <alexfreewalker> genii-around: how do u add xorg-edgers to your PPA?
[18:23] <coffeeboy> alexfreewalker: I tried 11.04 on this netbook and 12.04 seems to run better outside of the power managment
[18:23] <alexfreewalker> coffeboy: u got my 11.04 messege?
[18:23] <genii-around> alexfreewalker: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[18:24] <alexfreewalker> coffeboy: haven't tried it non netbooks
[18:24] <alexfreewalker> on*
[18:24] <genii-around> alexfreewalker: Caveat: Use at your own risk
[18:24] <L3top> the 310m is a weird one frankly... I have only ever supported it on Macs.
[18:24] <alexfreewalker> :yao ming: nothing left to be destroyed, system is already f up
[18:24] <coffeeboy> alecfreewalker: Maybe I will give it another try in the comming days and weeks
[18:25] <L3top> alexfreewalker: what is this laptop out of curiosity
[18:25] <alexfreewalker> ASUS U36JC
[18:26] <alexfreewalker> coffeboy: give 10.10 a try
[18:26] <coffeeboy> Other than the power managment thing I had 11.04 maybe on my desktop a while ago and it had an option to set the wallpaper per the current weather conditions
[18:27] <coffeeboy> what happened to the opption?
[18:28] <coffeeboy> alexfreewalker: I will play around with you suggestions, do you remember when the netbook interface was introduced in kde?
[18:28] <alexfreewalker> i have no idea... since my update to 12.04, things got worse, knetattach keeps crashing, synaptics touch pad software keeps crashing, cant save poer managment settings...etc
[18:29] <coffeeboy> Any way we gotta go to a cook out for the 4th with my sister and brother in law
[18:29] <coffeeboy> have a good day and stay cool
[18:29] <alexfreewalker> coffeeboy i dont know when... sorry
[18:29] <alexfreewalker> L3top: any updates?
[18:30] <L3top> alexfreewalker: still looking at things... however... can you please make your laptop mess up and lsmod | grep -Ei '(intel|nvidia)'    presuming you are using the nvidia drivers over the nouveau
[18:31] <alexfreewalker> L3top: u think i should do sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[18:31] <L3top> I am trying to figure out which modules are loaded at that time, intel or nvidia
[18:32] <L3top> I think you should sudo apt-get install i965-va-driver   and perhaps uninstall nvidia-current and install nvidia-current-updates
[18:32] <L3top> I tend not to recommend PPAs as they are bleeding edge experimental drivers, and you have a poorly supported graphics situation to begin with.
[18:32] <L3top> With regard to xorg-edgers or x-swat
[18:33] <L3top> All due respect to genii-around
[18:33] <L3top> It would be my last line of attack
[18:33] <alexfreewalker> http://pastebin.com/MgjvF20F
[18:34] <BluesKaj> L3top, glxinfo | grep OpenGL, should tell what's loaded
[18:34]  * genii-around makes more coffee and follows the current line of attack
[18:35] <alexfreewalker> http://pastebin.com/TJkKyLkz
[18:35] <L3top> ty BluesKaj...
[18:36] <alexfreewalker> L3top i ran sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current
[18:37] <L3top> Well... it looks like nvidia is not the culprit here... but the intel driver.
[18:37] <L3top> Do try that accelleration install I gave you and... I would just reboot
[18:38] <alexfreewalker> yes sir!
[18:38] <L3top> but installing nvidia-current-updates is a good idea first lol... the 295.40 driver has a regression issue which is fixed in the updates anyway
[18:41] <BluesKaj> L3top, not sure about 12.04 , but the 302.17 driver is finally updated and working on 12.10
[18:41] <L3top> I am in the middle of a rather dicey global upgrade for my system as well. I am going to have to reboot my core as soon as this last machine finishes its kernel upgrade... so... I will hopefully be right back.
[18:42] <L3top> 302 is a good driver. When 304 hits, anything 4xx+ is going to get a serious boost though... +20% performance -20% power consumption. I am looking very forward to that guy.
[18:43] <genii-around> !info nvidia-current
[18:44] <alexfreewalker> L3top rebooting... brb
[18:46] <L3top> !info nvidia-current-updates
[18:46] <L3top> that... should not be correct.
[18:47] <L3top>   Candidate: 295.49-0ubuntu0.1
[18:47] <L3top> I guess I don't understand how that ubottu works in that circumstance
[18:48] <L3top> I wouldn't expect !info would be wrong... but it is
[18:48] <genii-around> Hm
[18:49] <L3top>  500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/restricted i386 Packages
[18:49] <alexfreewalker> L3top: back... nothing changed... still same issue
[18:49] <L3top> That is on my kubuntu 12.04 apt-cache policy nvidia-current-updates
[18:50] <L3top> One second alexfreewalker.
[18:52] <L3top> please try this alexfreewalker http://pastebin.com/zHjszxbX
[18:53] <alexfreewalker> on it... for some reason only gtk applications have issues
[18:54] <alexfreewalker> vlc which is a qt is totally fine
[18:56] <alexfreewalker> ok L3top ... rebooting... brb
[19:01] <alexfreewalker> L3top: sorry, it didnt work
[19:01] <alexfreewalker> however here is the update log that caused the issue http://pastebin.com/kpGk1g8g
[19:02] <L3top> Sorry alexfreewalker.
[19:02] <alexfreewalker> xserver-xorg-video-intel:i386 (2.19.0+git20120629.eae5e127-0ubuntu0sarvatt~precise, 2.19.0+git20120702.e80f9c46-0ubuntu0sarvatt~precise) is one of the updates
[19:03] <L3top> I am sure it exists, but can you please apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-intel | grep stalled
[19:03] <L3top> ah
[19:03] <L3top> That was my next line of attack.
[19:03] <alexfreewalker>  Installed: 2:2.19.0+git20120703.9e2ac8a4-0ubuntu0sarvatt~precise
[19:04] <L3top> you could try pinning version 2:2.17.0*
[19:05] <L3top> apt-get removing and then apt get installing
[19:05] <alexfreewalker> also this was updated xserver-xorg-video-cirrus:i386 (1.4.0+git20120521.2e35bc31-0ubuntu0sarvatt~precise, 1.5.0+git20120702.46a9e962-0ubuntu0sarvatt~precise)
[19:05] <BluesKaj> I've been receiving a "java not installed" or "upgrade to newest java" message on firefox14 , is this common ?
[19:05]  * L3top wonders if it is looking at free java or insists on sun java
[19:06] <alexfreewalker> L3top what exactly should I apt-get? and how do I specify the version that was working 3 days ago?
[19:07] <BluesKaj> odd , java-common isn't installed
[19:08] <L3top> alexfreewalker: try creating an /etc/apt/preferences  file with line 1) Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel          line 2) Pin: version 2:2.17.0*                     line 3) Pin-Priority: 1000
[19:09] <L3top> alexfreewalker: sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-intel          sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[19:10] <L3top> and... it is just the way I am with video frame buffer... reboot. I know it should not necessarily be necessary... It is just how I do.
[19:11] <L3top> oops
[19:12] <L3top> I forgot... you will need to apt-get update after making the preferences file
[19:13] <alexfreewalker> sh!t
[19:13] <IdleOne> alexfreewalker: Please stop with the bad language.
[19:14] <alexfreewalker> ^ what is his problem
[19:14] <lordievader> alexfreewalker: Your language is his problem, this is a public chat room.
[19:16] <alexfreewalker> L3top should i install the dependencies or do something before?
[19:16] <alexfreewalker> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[19:16] <alexfreewalker>  xserver-xorg-video-intel : Depends: xorg-video-abi-11
[19:16] <L3top> ugh
[19:16] <L3top> abi
[19:16] <L3top> that is going to be the source of all ill. This IS the fault of xorg
[19:17] <L3top> abi has been removed
[19:17]  * L3top would expect abi-10... but still
[19:18] <alexfreewalker> true story E: Package 'xorg-video-abi-11' has no installation candidate
[19:18] <L3top> I couldn't find it, but that is the recent change. They have dumped abi from the repos due to changes in xserver-xorg
[19:18] <L3top> Thats what is wrong.
[19:18] <L3top> You are going to have to pin the old version of xserver-xorg.
[19:19] <L3top> or...
[19:19] <genii-around> Alternately put the ignore abi thing in your xorg.conf
[19:19] <L3top> I am not sure... this is a bit of a spiderweb. And I have to do a reboot I might not recover from.
[19:19] <L3top> I believe it is abi which is making things work, which they have dropped genii-around.
[19:20] <genii-around> L3top: I had same abi issue, specifically with the nvidia driver. Between abi-11 and abi-12 , setting the ignore abi lets it work
[19:20] <L3top> Worst case scenario I will change my network so I can get back. I just did this for something else recently... I will figure it out... but it may be a good 30 min before I am back. I am doing dev work on  something and have to report findings
[19:21] <alexfreewalker> is there a way to rollback to 11.04 and keep my bashrc, mysql configrations, rvm, run=by and my gems...etc?
[19:21] <L3top> Ok genii-around I went the opposite direction and downloaded the package
[19:21] <L3top> alexfreewalker: let genii-around help you ignore abi
[19:21] <L3top> bbiab... shortly with any luck
[19:21] <alexfreewalker> genii-around go on please
[19:22] <alexfreewalker> thanks L3top for your help :)
[19:22] <L3top> any time
[19:22] <shoopdewoop> Hello everyone! I've dabbled in linux here and there but never seriously gotten into it, and now I'd like to try again! I just loaded Kubuntu 10.04 lts on my dell inspiron mini 1010 (terrible i know) and sorted out the driver for my wireless card, but I'm kind of clueless where to begin as far as graphics drivers, flash/java support, etc. Also, are there any exceptional books on ubuntu out there that I should check out?
[19:22] <L3top> lspci | grep therne
[19:22] <L3top> er
[19:22] <L3top> hold on that
[19:23] <L3top> lspci | grep -Ei '(wireless|wlan)'
[19:23] <alexfreewalker> why do u need the wlan?
[19:23] <genii-around> alexfreewalker: http://pastebin.com/FHkKFWBT
[19:24] <L3top> sometimes lspci lists as wireless... sometimes it lists as wlan
[19:24] <genii-around> ( goes in /etc/X11/xorg.conf )
[19:24] <genii-around> Hm. Shaun of the dead.
[19:25] <L3top> "No... not Purple Rain... aw.. bugger go ahead"
[19:25] <alexfreewalker> genii-around last thing i did with L3top was sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-intel... should i proceed from there or do something else?
[19:27] <L3top> shoopdewoop: lspci | grep -Ei '(wireless|wlan)'
[19:27] <L3top> in a terminal please
[19:28] <L3top> !info bcm
[19:28] <L3top> erg
[19:28] <L3top> !bcm
[19:28] <L3top> no... that isnt it.
[19:28] <genii-around> Apologies on lag. My work has me running from the computer to do something every couple minutes right now
[19:29] <L3top> !bcm43xx
[19:29] <genii-around> alexfreewalker: Is the main display output right now powered by the intel or the nvidia?
[19:29] <alexfreewalker> intel i believe
[19:29] <L3top> intel genii-around
[19:30] <shoopdewoop> I've figured out all i need as far as wireless goes :) What I'm looking for right now is flash/java and just general resources (a book or two?) about getting started with ubuntu
[19:30] <alexfreewalker> and i just unistalled the xserver-xorg-video-intel
[19:30] <genii-around> L3top: The plan was to use vesa or so?
[19:31] <genii-around> Sorry, just trying to get oriented here
[19:33] <L3top> genii-around: the plan was to install the regressed working driver without abi
[19:34] <genii-around> Ah
[19:34] <L3top> genii-around: I am still of the opinion that abi, or the lack of, is the missing component to make it work.
[19:35] <genii-around> The abi-XX however, is actually not a separate package but part of the entire xserver-xorg-core
[19:36] <alexfreewalker> genii-around current status => /etc/X11/xorg.conf was totally empty when i added ur code, i cant reinstall the driver cuz it wants abi
[19:38] <genii-around> alexfreewalker: Is the recent xserver-xorg-core still in /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[19:39] <L3top> ls /var/cache/apt/archives | grep xserver-xorg-core
[19:39] <alexfreewalker> [archives]$ ls | grep xserver-xorg-core
[19:39] <alexfreewalker> xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.12.2.901+git20120624+server-1.12-branch.4af8e22b-0ubuntu0ricotz~precise_i386.deb
[19:39] <alexfreewalker> xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.12.2.901+git20120629+server-1.12-branch.b0be2d29-0ubuntu0ricotz~precise_i386.deb
[19:39] <alexfreewalker> xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.12.2.902+git20120704+server-1.12-branch.487e8e82-0ubuntu0ricotz~precise_i386.deb
[19:39] <alexfreewalker> xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.12.2+git20120605+server-1.12-branch.aaf48906-0ubuntu0ricotz~precise_i386.deb
[19:39] <FloodBotK1> alexfreewalker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:40] <L3top> all of this git stuff...
[19:40] <L3top> alexfreewalker: ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[19:40] <L3top> better yet... ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d | wc -l
[19:41] <alexfreewalker> 34
[19:41] <shoopdewoop> Will be back in a few, just installed intell gma 500 drivers.
[19:41] <shoopdewoop> intel*
[19:41] <L3top> HOLY poop. 34?
[19:41] <genii-around> eg: you can manually do like: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite --ignore-depends /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.12.2.902+git20120704+server-1.12-branch.487e8e82-0ubuntu0ricotz~precise_i386.deb
[19:41] <L3top> alexfreewalker: I am thinking this has something to do with your problem...
[19:42] <genii-around> Hm
[19:42] <alexfreewalker> no its things not related
[19:42] <L3top> That is a LOT of PPAs
[19:42]  * genii-around ponders apt-get clean
[19:42] <L3top> yeah
[19:42] <alexfreewalker> dropbox, google chrome, google talk plugin, opera, node.js
[19:43]  * L3top ponders rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[19:43] <alexfreewalker> there is however
[19:44] <alexfreewalker> xorg-edgers-ppa-precise.list  &  ubuntu-x-swat-x-updates-precise.list
[19:44] <alexfreewalker> i added those yesterday trying to fix the problem
[19:45] <alexfreewalker> on my own, but was a total fail... i'm just a web devloper not a kernel programmer
[19:47] <alexfreewalker> ubuntu-x-swat, hes with the special forces... an ex-swat after all those years
[19:54] <alexfreewalker> L3top genii-around ??
[19:54] <genii-around> Here
[19:55] <alexfreewalker> what should i do, i wish there is system restore like windows, or updates can be removed with 2 clicks...
[19:56] <genii-around> alexfreewalker: To get rid of package manager groaning about missing abi-## usually to install the xserver-xorg-core with dpkg and say ignore depends, etc. But you have a mess of them in there, hard to say which to use.
[19:56] <alexfreewalker> :OH GOD WHY:
[19:57] <shoopdewoop> Back
[19:58] <L3top> dpkg -i --ignore-depends=xorg-video-abi-11 xserver-xorg-video-intel                   I believe
[19:58] <genii-around> alexfreewalker: I would suggest to use: sudo apt-get clean    first... to clear them all out. Then sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg  which will d/l whatever it is supposed to need. It will probably then fail and groan but the package we need should then be in the archives dir
[19:58] <genii-around> Or, let L3top guide first ;-)
[19:59] <L3top> well... again... after the 4th recompile of my kernel I HAVE to skidaddle...
[19:59] <genii-around> Heh
[19:59] <L3top> and I SHOULD come back
[20:00] <L3top> but then... I wrote this routine so I could very well not...
[20:00] <L3top> lol
[20:00]  * genii-around crosses fingers
[20:01] <alexfreewalker> L3top genii-around... I coud use cd / && sudo rm -rf* and all problems will be fixed
[20:01] <L3top> !danger
[20:01] <alexfreewalker> L3top i know.. i was kidding
[20:02] <L3top> That should not be done here. Newb lurkers can die over it.
[20:02] <alexfreewalker> lol
[20:02] <genii-around> alexfreewalker: Even in jest, not to put that in open channel
[20:02] <alexfreewalker> okay... sorry guyz
[20:02] <genii-around> We HAVE HAD newbs just plug it in
[20:03] <L3top> No worries... just know.
[20:04] <alexfreewalker> anyway, seriously i can start programming without m gedit fully functioning... so whose ganna guide?
[20:04] <skreech_> DarthFrog: what's the accountign program need to do?
[20:05] <genii-around> !newb > genii-around
[20:05] <genii-around> For completeness ;-)
[20:05] <alexfreewalker> genii-around L3top, this used to be fully working on my system
[20:05] <alexfreewalker> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/i386/xserver-xorg-video-intel
[20:06] <skreech_> genii-around: :)
[20:06] <alexfreewalker> the xserver-xorg-video-intel : i386 : Natty (11.04)
[20:07] <shoopdewoop> ... back again :P
[20:07] <shoopdewoop> For some reason, the top bar of all of my windows (bar with minimize/maximize/exit/etc) has turned blank ...
[20:08] <L3top> alexfreewalker: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:09] <L3top> alexfreewalker: please pastebin your ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[20:09] <Galvatron> shoopdewoop:  Are you using Kwin or Compiza?
[20:09] <L3top> both please. You have conflicting crap.
[20:09] <shoopdewoop> I wish i knew what that meant! 0:P
[20:11] <alexfreewalker> http://pastebin.com/d2UmtNCx
[20:14] <alexfreewalker> http://pastebin.com/Q44CzktU
[20:15] <Galvatron> shoopdewoop: Try "kwin --replace"
[20:15] <shoopdewoop> Okay I'll try that
[20:16] <shoopdewoop> everything is black right now ...
[20:19] <Joit> shoopdewoop:  i found something lately at systemsettings, where you can switch between air and oxygen, its anywhere at systemsettings workstation..?
[20:19] <Joit> you can set them partially for the windows
[20:20] <Joit> i had it once too, that one from this both made my menus black
[20:20] <L3top> alexfreewalker: rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[20:20] <alexfreewalker> L3top r u sure?
[20:20] <L3top> alexfreewalker: sudo should prepend that.
[20:21] <L3top> alexfreewalker: You have everything updated currently from them, and you have oneiric and natty sources in there. That is a problem
[20:21] <alexfreewalker> done!
[20:21] <L3top> alexfreewalker: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:21] <alexfreewalker> [~]$ ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[20:21] <alexfreewalker> total 0
[20:22] <Joit> shoopdewoop: i found something lately at systemsettings, where you can switch between air and oxygen, its anywhere at systemsettings workstation..?
[20:22] <Joit> i had it once too, that one from this both made my menus black
[20:22] <Joit> you can set them partially for the windows, but maybe you only try to load a predefined design. you can store your current before that too
[20:23] <L3top> This may break due to the pinning. If so sudo mv /etc/apt/preferences /etc/apt/preferences.old
[20:23] <shoopdewoop> yeah i tried both, the issue stays. also when i change between air and oxygen, my whole screen is black except for a few white lines?
[20:23] <Joit> load a predefined then?
[20:23] <shoopdewoop> what do you mean?
[20:24] <shoopdewoop> (im super new to linux)
[20:24] <Joit> there are layouts for your desktop designs, predefined, you can load some from the web too
[20:24] <Joit> its actually same like in windows
[20:24] <alexfreewalker> L3top successfuly renamed
[20:25] <shoopdewoop> in system settings > appearance?
[20:25] <Joit> dunno, i have a german kubuntu :P but i would guess styles
[20:25] <Joit> or appearance, sounds good too
[20:26] <Joit> there is a drop down menu
[20:26] <Joit> and more in -colors-
[20:27] <Galvatron> shoopdewoop: Settings > Application Appearance and Settings > Workspace Appearane
[20:27] <shoopdewoop> that path doesn't exist
[20:27] <shoopdewoop> the only item in settings is system settings
[20:28] <Galvatron> That's what I meant
[20:28] <Joit> start it
[20:28] <Joit> it has more submenus
[20:28] <Joit> and thx Galvatron that was it
[20:29] <Joit> you can move there back and forth with the arrows above
[20:33] <alexfreewalker> L3top whats next?
[20:39] <L3top> alexfreewalker: apt-get update and upgrade
[20:39] <L3top> alexfreewalker: then reboot
[20:40] <alexfreewalker> okay rebooting
[20:47] <alexfreewalker> L3top
[20:48] <L3top> wife is watching media... so I cannot reboot for a min... what's up alexfreewalker
[20:49] <alexfreewalker> man ur a genuis!!
[20:49] <alexfreewalker> but i can set the correct resolution
[20:49] <L3top> no... I just break stuff a lot. Geniuses have helped me to the point that I can diagnose problems.
[20:50] <L3top> can = can't?
[20:50] <alexfreewalker> can't*
[20:50] <L3top> do you have an xorg.conf? ls /etc/X11
[20:51] <L3top> I believe bumblebee creates one
[20:51] <L3top> If you do not have one... I would reinstall bumblebee so it can create one for you
[20:52] <L3top> I am not positive, I do not have the hardware, and we do our own solution for it... crushing the intel side
[20:52] <alexfreewalker> [~]$ more /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:52] <alexfreewalker> Section "ServerFlags"
[20:52] <alexfreewalker>     Option "IgnoreABI"  "on"
[20:52] <alexfreewalker> EndSection
[20:52] <FloodBotK1> alexfreewalker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:53] <alexfreewalker> i guess this is genii-around code
[20:54] <L3top> alexfreewalker: go ahead and pastebin the xorg.conf ( cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf ) or you could install pastebinit... then pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:54] <L3top> sounds like you have half an xorg.
[20:54] <alexfreewalker> its up
[20:54] <L3top> if it starts with ServerFlags
[20:55] <alexfreewalker> that was genii-around code
[20:55] <shoopdewoop> seems like the title bar issue is some kind of glitch ...
[20:56] <alexfreewalker> L3top i cant run glxspheres
[20:56] <L3top> glxgears?
[20:57] <L3top> alexfreewalker: again... you have half an xorg.conf it looks like
[20:57] <L3top> that needs to be resolved
[20:57] <shoopdewoop> could just be a graphics driver update needing to happen? totally a shot in the dark
[20:57] <L3top> No shoopdewoop
[20:57] <L3top> alexfreewalker: I would reinstall bumblebee
[20:57] <L3top> alexfreewalker: It should create the xorg.conf it needs
[20:58] <alexfreewalker> okay... bumblebee it is
[20:58] <shoopdewoop> L3top: (talking about my title bar issue, not alexfreewalker's, just to clarify)
[20:58] <skreech_> Hi shoopdewoop
[20:58] <skreech_> what do you need help with?
[20:59] <shoopdewoop> the title bars on all my windows seem to be glitching?
[21:00] <shoopdewoop> wondering if it has to do with a recent graphics driver update (im on a dell inspiron mini 1010, just installed intel gma500 drivers)
[21:01] <alexfreewalker> rebooting
[21:05] <skreech_> shoopdewoop: posibly. What's the glitch?
[21:06] <Joit> skreech_:  his title bar is black
[21:06] <shoopdewoop> not quite sure how to describe it. when i open a window, it looks like there is no title bar, but really it just looks like whatever is behind it
[21:06] <shoopdewoop> (i thought it was black before, but i had a black wallpaper :P changed the wallpaper, now it looks different)
[21:07] <Joit> leaver suck :P
[21:07] <Joit> can you repeat both answers again shoopdewoop?
[21:07] <Joit> i think he didnt read it
[21:08] <shoopdewoop> not quite sure how to describe it. when i open a window, it looks like there is no title bar, but really it just looks like whatever is behind it
[21:08] <shoopdewoop> (i thought it was black before, but i had a black wallpaper :P changed the wallpaper, now it looks different)
[21:09] <shoopdewoop> i screencapped it because i dont know how else to describe it, how can i post the pic?
[21:10] <Joit> imageshack.us or postimage.org
[21:11] <Joit> well, it worked before updating yur drivers?
[21:11] <Joit> proabtly go back t your old one?
[21:11] <Joit> to your old one*
[21:12] <shoopdewoop> http://s13.postimage.org/p7aklt2hj/snapshot2.png
[21:12] <Joit> you can do that at system additionla drivers
[21:13] <Joit> additional driver*
[21:13] <shoopdewoop> if i rollback the driver the resolution is just outrageous
[21:13] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: there is a title bar though?
[21:13] <skreech__> You can move the window or press alt+F2 and type the name of the window?
[21:14] <shoopdewoop> yes, its there, just does not look like it should
[21:14] <shoopdewoop> and yes i can move it. not sure what alt+F2 is supposed to do
[21:14] <alexfreewalker> L3top, im back, bumblebee didn't change the config file, and I still can't choose the resloution
[21:14] <Joit> open a command line actually
[21:15] <Joit> it appears at the upper part from the screen
[21:15] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: that opens a command line on the top of hte screen
[21:15] <skreech__>  You can type in a lot of things to open and manipulate things
[21:15] <Joit> usual when you pres alt-f2 and start typing you should type into this command line
[21:15] <skreech__> like you can type in the name of any window and it will pop you over to that window
[21:16] <skreech__> But also it won't open at all if you don't have a title bar
[21:16] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: and I guess this happens for any window?
[21:16] <shoopdewoop> im not seeing a command line?
[21:16] <shoopdewoop> just makes all my windows go away
[21:16] <Joit> just start typing
[21:17] <shoopdewoop> the name of the window?
[21:17] <Joit> try quassel irc
[21:17] <skreech__> Yes
[21:17] <skreech__> like typing quassel or #konversation or the name of someone you are talking with in kopete
[21:18] <skreech__> but nevertheless if it open then you have a title bar
[21:18] <shoopdewoop> it works
[21:19] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: Alright so You have  caching issue with the screen redraw
[21:19] <shoopdewoop> sounds delicious!
[21:20] <skreech__> Which driver did you recently install?
[21:20] <shoopdewoop> intel gma500
[21:20] <shoopdewoop> for the lovely and ever-frustrating dell inspiron mini 1010 xD
[21:25] <skreech__> Yeah :)
[21:25] <shoopdewoop> Ideas?
[21:27] <shoopdewoop> If it helps, it seems like if the window is maximized, the title bar is perfectly normal
[21:30] <alexfreewalker> L3top: are you still here?
[21:37] <L3top> am I back?
[21:37] <shoopdewoop> skreech__ ?
[21:37] <L3top> It would appear so
[21:40] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: Umm
[21:41] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: can you press alt+shift+F12 and tell me if it fixes it?
[21:42] <shoopdewoop> am i back?
[21:42] <shoopdewoop> i think ...
[21:43] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: Yep
[21:46] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: you ar back
[21:46] <shoopdewoop> i am back indeed
[21:46] <shoopdewoop> so i was poking around settings, and found that 'compositing is temporarily disabled'; relavant?
[21:46] <shoopdewoop> (in desktop effects)
[21:47] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: Yeah
[21:47] <alexfreewalker> L3top: are you still here?
[21:47] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: try alt+shift=F12
[21:47] <skreech__> +
[21:48] <L3top> I am
[21:48] <L3top> my system is terribly unstable
[21:48]  * skreech__ wobbles L3top's system
[21:49] <rafael> Alguém do Brasil aqui?
[21:49] <alexfreewalker> sorry about that
[21:49] <L3top> !pr
[21:49] <shoopdewoop> So, tried shift+alt+F12, and my screen turned white ...
[21:49] <L3top> durr.
[21:49] <skreech__> !br
[21:50] <shoopdewoop> had to ctrl+alt+del and log back in
[21:50] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: and stayed white?
[21:50] <shoopdewoop> yes
[21:50] <alexfreewalker> i have everytjhing working except for resolution, i cant make my second display detectable
[21:50] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: Yeah sounds like a bad driver update
[21:50] <shoopdewoop> i wiggled the cursor, and it changed like i was rolling over buttons and things
[21:50] <L3top> omg... you are running 2 displays on optimus?
[21:50] <shoopdewoop> then i ctrl+alt+del'd and logged back in
[21:51] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: try a reinstall of the driver first incase it was just a missing lib update or something
[21:51] <skreech__> If not we can rll it back
[21:51] <shoopdewoop> okay ill do that; how can i uninstall it do redo it?
[21:51] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: You could have just pressed alt+sfhit+F12 again :)
[21:51] <L3top> alexfreewalker: Xorg -configure
[21:51] <skreech__> how did you install it in the first place?
[21:51] <alexfreewalker> yeah i did that
[21:51] <L3top> This will drop an xorg.conf.new file in your ~ directory
[21:51] <L3top> alexfreewalker: ^
[21:51] <alexfreewalker> and replaced it with X11
[21:52] <alexfreewalker> already did that
[21:52] <L3top> okey doke...
[21:52] <shoopdewoop> h/o
[21:52] <L3top> alexfreewalker: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:52] <L3top> reboot.
[21:53] <L3top> xorg.conf is depreciated, and I believe bumblebee will use xrandr
[21:53] <L3top> It would be an easier way to attack it really
[21:53] <alexfreewalker> k brb.. dont go plz :)
[21:53] <eutleyjr> I just installed KDE, and every time I run the Software Updates program it says "this operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided." How can I get it to work?  I have ubuntu 11.10
[21:53] <L3top> Im here... no matter how unstable
[21:54] <skreech__> eutleyjr: what are you trying to do?
[21:54] <shoopdewoop> http://code.google.com/p/gma500/wiki/PPARepository
[21:54] <shoopdewoop> i tried that a few months ago the first time i tried linux on this machine, and it worked fine
[21:54] <shoopdewoop> perhaps it was just a bad install like you said
[21:55] <eutleyjr> my alerts say that i have security updates available. i want to update them
[21:56] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: is that what you installed recently?
[21:56] <skreech__> eutleyjr: Open a terminal and type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:56] <shoopdewoop> yes, sorry if that was confusing, i just installed the same thing today after a fresh kubuntu 10.04 install
[21:56] <skreech__> that should pull in new packages and hopefully update Muon to stop giving the error
[21:56] <shoopdewoop> okay ill do that
[21:57] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: try removing the ppa and then reinstalling the intel driver
[21:57] <shoopdewoop> How do I do that?
[21:59] <shoopdewoop> oops sorry, i just realized that update/upgrade message wasn't for me ;P well, doesnt hurt!
[21:59] <eutleyjr> skreech__: i think that is working. Thanks for the help
[22:00] <shoopdewoop> skreech__: how do i remove the ppa? and do i need to uninstall the driver before i reinstall it?
[22:00] <alexfreewalker> L3top, im back, the resolution is kinda distorted in both screen, i cant choose other resolutions or detect the other display
[22:01] <L3top> where are you trying to choose other resolutions alexfreewalker?
[22:01] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: Umm .. ok lets remove it first then decide. can You open muon ?
[22:01] <skreech__> then click settings -> Software sources
[22:01] <alexfreewalker> in the system settings
[22:01] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: nope doesn't hurt
[22:01] <alexfreewalker> Display and monitor
[22:02] <skreech__> eutleyjr: hope that solves your password issue
[22:02] <shoopdewoop> add and remove software?
[22:03] <skreech__> sure
[22:03] <shoopdewoop> okay
[22:03] <L3top> possy as expected downgrade of pluto-dcecommon resolves.
[22:03] <L3top> doh.. wrong window.
[22:04] <shoopdewoop> edit software sources?
[22:04] <skreech__> Yes
[22:05] <shoopdewoop> Then just unchecl the ppa source?
[22:05] <skreech__> Under the tab other software you should see your PPA
[22:05] <skreech__> uncheck it
[22:05] <L3top> alexfreewalker: You are way outside of the spectrum of my "make it work" comfort zone... you are attempting to run dual displays on an otpimus chipset and switch happily between the two. I would recreate/move the xorg.conf.new, and then reinstall bumblebee to beg config.
[22:05] <shoopdewoop> okay
[22:06] <alexfreewalker> L3top roger that
[22:06] <jamil_1> hi all
[22:06] <jamil_1> plasma-dektop is eating up ~ 100% of my cpu
[22:07] <jamil_1> strace shows that it is continuously doing:
[22:07] <jamil_1> stat("/etc/localtime", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=389, ...}) = 0
[22:07] <shoopdewoop> skreech__: now what?
[22:07] <skreech__> jamil_1: Plasmoid?
[22:07] <alexfreewalker> L3top /etc/X11 config file should exist?
[22:08] <jamil_1> skreech__: I am using some plasmoids
[22:08] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: do you have a section that says installed software in the add/remove ?
[22:08] <skreech__> jamil_1: Any that pull time?
[22:08] <jamil_1> skreech__: how can I narrow it down which one is polling so wildly
[22:09] <L3top> alexfreewalker: I don't honestly know. The way I handle these cards is to force an ACPI power off to the intel, and generate a funky xorg.conf automagically.
[22:10] <shoopdewoop> skreech__: no i dont think so
[22:10] <skreech__> jamil_1: do you have a /etc/localtime file?
[22:10] <jamil_1> skreech__: yep
[22:11] <alexfreewalker> L3top, i really appreciate your help, at least I can use my gedit now and get back to coding, thanks really for your time and effort :)
[22:11] <jamil_1> skreech__: can I monitor threads of plasma-desktop ?
[22:11] <L3top> any time alexfreewalker. Sorry I couldn't get you to a nominal solution.
[22:11] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: bleah Ok. Lets open a terminal and type sudo apt-get remove poulsbo-driver-2d poulsbo-driver-3d poulsbo-config
[22:11] <jamil_1> skreech__: i guess it must be running plasmoid in separate thread ?
[22:12] <skreech__> then I think you should be able to logout and log back in to flip over to the default driver
[22:12] <skreech__> jamil_1: It's one thread. That's part of the problem
[22:13] <shoopdewoop> skreech__: done
[22:13] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: You can reboot if you like but I think logging out and back in should be sufficent
[22:14] <jamil_1> skreech__: just removed the clock plasmoid, not effect
[22:14] <shoopdewoop> skreech__: alright, be back in a couple!
[22:14] <alexfreewalker> L3top fixing the GTK thing made my day, its been 3 days, the multiple monitor thing is a side effect of our attack, so nevermind, you are really smart, cheers!
[22:14] <skreech__> jamil_1: I'd probably put that one pretty far down on the list of likely plasmoids since so many people use it
[22:15] <jamil_1> good point
[22:18] <jamil_1> my be I should ask in #kde
[22:18] <jamil_1> *may
[22:18] <shoopdewoop> skreech__: back, nothing seems to have changed ...
[22:29] <skreech__> jamil_1: can't hurt
[22:30] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: ok can you install the package kubuntu-desktop for me?
[22:30] <skreech__> Or I guess for you >:-)
[22:30] <jamil_1> skreech__: apparently #kde ppl don't like me :)
[22:31] <jamil_1> skreech__: is it possible to get memory map of a process ?
[22:31] <skreech__> sure
[22:32] <shoopdewoop> skreech__: new complication: E: Type 'n' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gma500-ppa-lucid.list
[22:33] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: that should not be valid
[22:33] <skreech__> It shouldn't be reading that file at all
[22:34] <shoopdewoop> it threw that error when i tried to do a 'sudo apt-get update'
[22:34] <shoopdewoop> also after the reboot nothing seems different, except for that error
[22:35] <skreech__> can you pastebin lsmod ?
[22:35] <skreech__> !pastebin
[22:36] <shoopdewoop> what is lsmod?
[22:36] <skreech__> a command
[22:36] <skreech__> ok lets do this. open a terminal
[22:36] <shoopdewoop> okay open
[22:37] <skreech__> type sudo apt-get install pastebinit ; lsmod | pastebinit
[22:37] <skreech__> Should give you a URL. Paste that URL in this channel
[22:38] <shoopdewoop> it didn't ...
[22:38] <shoopdewoop> "josh@JSWAIN:~$ sudo apt-get install pastebinit ; lsmod | pastebinit
[22:38] <shoopdewoop> E: Type 'n' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gma500-ppa-lucid.list
[22:38] <shoopdewoop> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[22:38] <shoopdewoop> The program 'pastebinit' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[22:38] <shoopdewoop> sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[22:38] <FloodBotK1> shoopdewoop: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:38] <shoopdewoop> GAH
[22:38] <skreech__> shoopdewoop: ha ok
[22:39] <jamil_1> shoopdewoop: you should first paste 1st line of /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gma500-ppa-lucid.list
[22:39] <skreech__> sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gma* ~ && sudo apt-get install pastebinit ; lsmod | pastebinit
[22:40] <shoopdewoop> http://pastebin.com/Gutd3kBv
[22:41] <shoopdewoop> I have to leave now :( Will you be available later tonight?
[22:42] <shoopdewoop> I'll come back on when I can and poke around a bit to see what i can see
[22:42] <shoopdewoop> thanks for the help skreech__ :)
[22:43] <skreech__> ok
[22:43] <skreech__> I should be
[22:43] <skreech__> though I do have to go now